If I Could Do My Flight Training Over

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • m0a.com An Online Ground School member of mine asked me "Jason if you could do your flight training over how would you have done it?" Well this video answers just that question

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  • @sansdecorum4600
    @sansdecorum4600 6 лет назад +18

    I took flying lessons in upstate New York in 1979. I had two instructors, the first was a morbidly obese, nervous sort of fellow that did not inspire confidence at all, At around the 4 hour mark, I was assigned a fearless young instructor who climbed into the cockpit with a full mug of hot coffee in hand and then threw all manner of emergency situations at me to build confidence and make it abundantly clear that flying was serious business. Inside of 10 hours, I had successfully completed many departure stalls and turn to land on whatever runway was clear, quite a few engine out (idle) soft field landings and takeoffs on sketchy looking little islands with plenty of tall trees, no end of crosswind excercises, extreme slip to land manuvers and whatever else came to mind. I loved it and felt confident in my growing abilities....perhaps too much so. During my first time flying solo in the pattern with almost 11 hours under my belt, I performed numerous touch and go's and felt very much in control as my instructor complimented my efforts over the radio. So, being a bit bored with simple take off and landings and feeling a little froggy; on the next go, I came in high, crossed the controls as taught and performed an aggressive slip to land which came off smoothly and without drama........well, until to radio erupted with rather frantic verbiage and instructions to return to the ramp for a full stop and shut down. I was then subjected a series of questions regarding my sanity followed by considerable lecture and probably rightly so. While I am confident that I could have returned in a week with no lingering ill will and continued training, I was so embarrassed that I gave up flying and have regretted doing so ever since. Moral or the story, we all make mistakes, but don't ever get discouraged and fail to pursue your dreams. As long as you don't bend up an aircraft in the process, you'll be fine.

  • @geraldernst4597
    @geraldernst4597 4 года назад +4

    Hi, I'm 65 years old, and I just got my PPL last year. Most importantly, I definitely would have immediately enrolled in an online ground school!! That is priceless. I purchased an awesome 1962, 172C, prior to completing my PPL. It was the best, and worst decision I made. The best, because it kept me motivated to continue, when there is a very good chance i would have given up when passing ground school was such a huge challenge. The worst, because I was so tempted to fly before I was licensed.

  • @00honeybadger
    @00honeybadger 6 лет назад +8

    Old video but still...If I had to do my flight training again (had my flight exam yesterday and passed), I would write down what Ive learned today every time. I started this within the last five hours of my training and went through the stuff I wrote down before taking a new lesson. Really helped me and I made good progress in the last hours.

  • @itsnotallrainbowsandunicor1505
    @itsnotallrainbowsandunicor1505 7 лет назад +23

    Instructor: We're doing stalls today :)
    Student. Oh good. (turns off the engine)
    Instructor: What the f?!?

    • @ohcliff1030
      @ohcliff1030 4 года назад +1

      Too funny!!! But yeah.....

  • @Sky_Burger88
    @Sky_Burger88 5 лет назад +3

    🛩 For those of you who are considering starting Flight Training this video offers great advice. I recommend it highly. I followed the same steps that Jason discusses. I subscribed to an online Ground School and after completing the course curriculum and taking several practice exams with a passing grade, the online Ground School endorsed me to sit for the FAA knowledge exam. I I then signed up to take the FAA knowledge exam and passed it. 2. I got my third class medical certificate before I started my flight training. As a man in my 50s I have no significant health problems but it was still a question until I actually received the certificate from the doctor. 3. Choosing an instructor. I had a slight misstep on this. I needed to fly three to four times a week as is recommended by Jason and most other instructors. The flight school set me up with a weekends only person. It's very difficult to get three flights if you're only flying Saturday and Sunday. On several weekends the weather was poor and couldn't fly at all. Something had to change. I went back to the school and told them that I need to get more time in the air so I can get through this training more quickly. They set me up with an instructor who would fly with me weekdays when I got off work at 5 p.m. This is a great video Jason thank you for all that you do.🛩

  • @peterdavila3045
    @peterdavila3045 2 года назад

    Jason, absolutely. Great pointers.
    I took flying lessons about 20 years ago. I got to solo but never continued to the PPL.
    I didn't do much ground schooling back then. I was eager to get actual flying lessons, so that's what I did. I was at a small airport getting instructions, so the CFI there didn't stay long. They were there marking time to a job with the airlines. I had 5 different instructors during my flying over a few months. No apparent instruction syllabus in use. My training was very disorganized, but I didn't know any better. And I was flying, so I figured everything was as it should be.
    Fast forward to today. Now that I'm retired, I have the time and I'm eager to finally get my PPL. So my plan is the following:
    1 - I'm in very good health, but at 67, I do plan to get my medical certificate first. Actually, first, I'll find an ENT doctor and get my hearing checked, even though I have no known problems with my hearing, no matter what my wife says :-). Then, I plan to go to an Ophthalmologist and get a complete eye exam. Then, blood tests. With all that done, I will then carry all that information to the FAA medical exam.
    2 - I plan to go to a flying school about 40 minutes from where I live. They do have the DA40 NG that I want to train on. As you mentioned, this time I'm planning to make sure that I can count on an instructor that can fly during the week.
    3 - I will be spending at least the next 6 months on the online ground schooling. I'm currently going through the Jeppesen Guided Flight Discovery Private Pilot book. Then, I plan to go through the FAR/AIM, FARs, Private Pilot Syllabus, Rob Machado's Private Pilot Handbook and more.
    4- I'm currently going through the AFM for the DA40 NG and its service manual. I'm also reading the manual for the G1000 Nxi for the DA40 NG.
    5 - Then, I'll do a setup of MS flight simulator to practice some cross country planning and chart reading.
    6 - I plan to pass my FAA Knowledge Prep Test prior to going to the airport for my training.
    So, how does the above sound? I can't wait to get back up in the air, but this time I know that a good pilot is always learning. I hope to eventually get my instrument rating as well. Wish me luck.

  • @kingjamez80
    @kingjamez80 2 года назад

    This video is 10 years old but still super relevant. Thank you.

  • @attitudepilot3474
    @attitudepilot3474 6 лет назад +24

    For private I would add in :Take and pass your written exam before starting your training.
    For Instrument: Buy a flight simulator and practice before and during your flight training

  • @assman12354
    @assman12354 5 лет назад +6

    I bought my airplane first, and now I’m taking the instructions… I’m still in the middle of this so we’ll see how it goes

  • @gorgly123
    @gorgly123 6 лет назад +1

    I took private pilot ground school while I was a senior in high school. It was an adult education class that was taught at a different high school and since I was in public school it was free. After the completion of the ground school the FAA came in and tested everyone. Don't remember if I had to pay for that. This was 1972. My father was in the Airforce and the Aero Club was about 5 minutes from my house. $12/hr for a Cherokee 140 wet and $6/hr for the instructor. Didn't take the physical until after I started flying in April 1973. I was taking some medication and the AF Flight Surgeon wouldn't give me my medical on the spot and had to send it to the FAA to get a waiver. That delayed my soloing. So my recommendations are. 1. Do a ground school and have your written passed before starting flight training. 2. Get your physical before starting flight training. 3. Find an instructor that is available 5-7 days/week. Fly 2-3 times per week if not more. Knock it out. Don't start until the weather in your area is going to be good. I would not start in the middle of winter if you live in an area that gets low IFR. The secret is not to allow too much time to elapse between flights to maintain your proficiency. Another item, make sure you have all the money or financing you are going to need to complete training before you start. Save it up. See above for the reason why. Do the above and it will save you a lot of money. So my regret was not having the physical/student pilot's license before starting. PS if you are planning on continuing your flight training to get your commercial license, get a 2nd class medical to make sure you can pass. The only main difference is eyesight requirements.

  • @cliffroderiques2513
    @cliffroderiques2513 4 года назад

    I did learn from my initial pilot license. Since I always read the appropriate pubs, videos and training materials. One of the biggest obstacle was having to work (active duty military) and set time aside to study and family. Once I finished my own preparation then take military leave and do accelerated courses, instrument, commercial, multi-eng to my ATP. As for my CFI/II & MEI that was a 30 day course.
    Additionally, take written prior to attending actual flight training, this will dramatically reduce your stress levels.

  • @russelljapikse5633
    @russelljapikse5633 6 лет назад +4

    The comment about not jumping in with the first flight school and instructor is spot on. I am now looking for my second instructor and school... Beware of places that demand large prepayments and then fail to meet anything that resembles their promised schedule, International Aero Academy cost around $800 and hour in an Cessna 172 (internationalaeroacademy.com!) due to failing to provide enough flight hours - no refunds. So sorry!

  • @RodneyBrown
    @RodneyBrown 7 лет назад +10

    Now this is good information, thank you Jason.

  • @randyvanvliet226
    @randyvanvliet226 5 лет назад +1

    I am going to buy a GoPro 7 Black, and I am going to video every flying lesson I take... You can then ALWAYS play back and review every single thing you learned that day in that lesson. You will always then have it on record, while still learning and reviewing.

  • @timothyfeist7364
    @timothyfeist7364 6 лет назад +3

    I would have started sooner, it might have encouraged me enough to have the grit to get through college. But that is what i am doing now about 12 years later.

    • @tommyphilip2000
      @tommyphilip2000 6 лет назад

      How old are you ? I am 27 and haven't even started yet.

  • @dks13827
    @dks13827 4 года назад

    There are several factors, of course. But, proximity to your school is very, very, important.

  • @shyammohabir8283
    @shyammohabir8283 3 года назад +1

    When I learn to fly several decades ago, I had 6 different instructors because these CFI just want to put in the hours so that they can move on to the Airlines and they leave you stranded! When a new CFI takes over, you regurgitate the same old material - They will take me out for a power on /off stall, a steep turn, turn about a point, S-Turn and soft field landing. I know I was "taken for a ride" financially, but I did not quit .. I keep on it .. got my Private, Instrument, Commercial and multi engine! (FYI .. I ace all the exams.)

    • @MzeroAFlightTraining
      @MzeroAFlightTraining  3 года назад

      Hi Shyam! Thanks for your comment. We are sorry you had a tough time finding the right CFI. But congrats on getting all the way through your multi! Fly safe!

  • @dangood1975
    @dangood1975 6 лет назад +1

    It's nice to have a check list to go by to get started. Thanks

  • @jeffstillwell6802
    @jeffstillwell6802 6 лет назад +4

    Well, whatever you did "wrong" it sure turned out OK!

  • @rcaircraft-rchobbies7309
    @rcaircraft-rchobbies7309 6 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the informative video Jason. I want to get my scale PPL and wasn’t sure how to start. I want to save $$ also.

  • @notpoliticallycorrect
    @notpoliticallycorrect 3 года назад

    Student pilots should buy their own aviation headset before starting their flying hours.
    FARO G2 ANR AVIATION HEADSET is a good choice!
    It cost approximately $350

  • @kirbyspencer538
    @kirbyspencer538 5 лет назад

    With all of the free online instruction and learning aids that are available today it is impossible for me to imagine starting this journey without the ability to ace the written/knowledge parts before racking up seat hours. Not that it needs to be 'done' - but it needs to be as close as possible. A flight or two might help some in sorting that out - it is very difficult to understand some things without it, for me it would probably be something like rich/lean on the fuel mix, a difficult thing to truly 'book learn' but important. Over 90% of this stuff can be learned by books and questions, do that as much as possible first.

  • @ananda_miaoyin
    @ananda_miaoyin 6 лет назад

    Good points. In the Air Force, even for VFR training, you HAD to do the Ground School first. It was 30 hours and then the knowledge test before you even touched a piece of aircraft.
    As for the CFIs, you are HIRING them. Review their resumes or CVs. Interview them as if for a job....because it is for them.

  • @tylerc8556
    @tylerc8556 6 лет назад +1

    I started flight training out of Long Island's ISP airport back in 2016. Even having worked in aviation as a Flight Attendant and Ticket Agent, I didn't know the difference between part 61 or part 141. Between the part 61 then the part 141 school I went to in NY I wish I had just saved my money and done it right and started flying immediately in Florida, as I'm about to finish ground school take the FAA knowledge exam and start flying next week. Without this program the other two schools I never would've been ready to take the FAA knowledge exam as even though I was studying there wasn't as much detail lined up in what we should know, or what sources to get them from.

    • @BigAl1344
      @BigAl1344 5 лет назад

      Thomas Murphy Hey Thomas! I’m a fellow LI’er who has yet to start the aviation process. Would it be possible to talk to you in more of a private setting with some questions that I have?

  • @jimconnoy6133
    @jimconnoy6133 8 лет назад +1

    Things were a bit different back in the 70s when I started flying

  • @randiniedfeldt9729
    @randiniedfeldt9729 6 лет назад +1

    I wish i had bought the King school training course when I started.

  • @josemmontes5810
    @josemmontes5810 6 лет назад

    I agree about not putting off ground school till latter, but having an hour or two of flight training might be beneficial, I did my ground school first and some things were not really clear until I started flying, maybe is like the old saying, six in one hand or half a dozen on the other....

  • @notpoliticallycorrect
    @notpoliticallycorrect 3 года назад

    Excellent video!
    This will help me and help many others!

  • @23zgeorge
    @23zgeorge 6 лет назад

    Good video. I definetly agree with getting a medical certificate right away!
    It delayed my first solo by 3-4 months, because of something I didn't even know would effect it.
    Super stressful not knowing during that time whether it would come through or not. 😣

  • @JediOfTheRepublic
    @JediOfTheRepublic 7 лет назад +3

    The only thing I would do is start sooner. Granted it was because I was given misinformation i should have persevered. Hindsight 20/20

    • @SNKeSport
      @SNKeSport 7 лет назад

      for sooner what do you mean ? at what age ?

    • @FlyingRagilein
      @FlyingRagilein 6 лет назад

      Same here. Thought, I don't really "need" it. But better late than never ;)
      But don't wait too long, if you want to make it for a living.
      My flight school and instructors were great.That's really important. Nothing, that I would do different. Except starting earlier in life.

    • @timothyfeist7364
      @timothyfeist7364 6 лет назад

      Same here

  • @rickamday1
    @rickamday1 2 года назад

    Love his first comment: Get FAA Medical first. Wish I had done that. Because I had a minor heart surgery 15 years ago, (a) I could not get medical records that old, and (b) the FAA required a barrage of tests. Taking elective tests during Covid times proved very difficult. Also, because the test were elective (not caused by symptoms), I had to pay cash. Ultimately it took 9 months before the Class 3 Medical came in. Got my Class 3 in September, but it's back-dated to Dec of last year - my application date. Fair warning - great advice.

    • @MzeroAFlightTraining
      @MzeroAFlightTraining  2 года назад

      Thanks for sharing, Rick! Sorry you had to go through that but glad you finally got it squared away!

  • @abbieamavi
    @abbieamavi 6 лет назад +1

    great video concept, I really like your videos :D I'm taking my written in 1 week, I took my medical first and will be doing flight after written :)

  • @dks13827
    @dks13827 5 лет назад

    I think it is fine to take the intro lesson first...... and it is okay to take a couple of lessons after that. At that point you know you are comfortable in the aircraft and you have an idea of what it is about. Now get your medical..... and start ground school and work on that part diligently. This is in no way disagreeing with the thoughts posted in this video.

  • @jbyrd1309
    @jbyrd1309 9 лет назад

    Go J. thanks for all ur stuff Dude.... it's all about simplifying information & expressions short & sweet with concentration. kool teachings©

  • @treydavis1723
    @treydavis1723 6 лет назад +2

    What are your thoughts on attending an accelerated flight training program, such as ATP, vs finding a CFI at the local airport to train with?

    • @71DSant
      @71DSant 5 лет назад +1

      $100,000 to go to ATP vs $50,000 or less with local CFI or flying club. If you break down the pricing the PPL alone at ATP will cost you about $17,000. To me it seems better to find someone local with a good reputation.

  • @digitalxsca
    @digitalxsca 4 года назад

    I want to ear this guy doing a slow motion communication with atc.

  • @markhummel6436
    @markhummel6436 6 лет назад +1

    Start flight training at a class C or D airport !!

    • @zacharybyers
      @zacharybyers 6 лет назад +2

      Better off learning how to actually fly the airplane at a class G airport.

  • @capitaine3759
    @capitaine3759 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this info

  • @fanoooooo6
    @fanoooooo6 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks fella

  • @stephenhart8981
    @stephenhart8981 6 лет назад

    my number one is BUY BLOCK TIME! it will save you between 10 - 20% in the end

  • @ogrehater516
    @ogrehater516 6 лет назад +1

    no flying lessons r not two hours more like one hour and 45 mins

    • @damjandjordjevic1994
      @damjandjordjevic1994 6 лет назад +2

      he ment to not waste time learning things while flying, and to learn them on the ground.
      It will take you 1 hour to learn the same thing on the ground, but 2 hours to learn it while flying.
      thats what he ment :P

  • @rbreeze789
    @rbreeze789 6 лет назад

    im definately healthy with no allergies/disabilities but i have a concern- if there is marijuana detected during my medical test (which will likely be the case) would my process come to a halt ? any info would be appreciated i obviously dont have a problem quitting smoking but am not sure if an initial detection mucks things up.. thx

  • @Mickey_Bauer
    @Mickey_Bauer 10 лет назад

    I've got an ATP school close by, are they any good? Thanks Jason!

  • @shawnacullen3186
    @shawnacullen3186 4 года назад

    Jason quick question on Ground School: If I sign up for the Online Ground School does that count as my full ground school requirements?....or would I still have to do Ground School at the airport with the instructor? I'm worried they will try to tell me that I'm required to do Ground School with them. Please advise....

    • @unlisted773
      @unlisted773 4 года назад

      I'm working on PPL now. Started Sporty's online ground school about 3 months ahead of flight training. I think it was a good move. I went into training with a good bit of book knowledge that allowed me to focus more on the flying part once I got in the plane. Also, watch as many videos as you can. There are a lot of great CFI's like Jason offering free instruction (though they have to say it is for entertainment purposes only) on RUclips.
      Sure, my school would like for me to do the training with them, but they'd also charge more and I wouldn't have the lifetime access to the videos like I do now. No, they can't force me to do their program.
      I would strongly encourage you to look at Jason's program, as well as Gold Seal and a few others. Lots of great choices out there.
      Cheers.

  • @goflyjeff
    @goflyjeff 6 лет назад

    Go to ATP Flight School.

    • @alexs3187
      @alexs3187 4 года назад

      lol yeah no thanks.

  • @bravopilot7919
    @bravopilot7919 7 лет назад +4

    Comb your hair son.