Carl Zeiss Touit 12mm F2.8 Lens In Depth Review - Ultra Wide Options for the a6000, NEX7 and a5100.
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Carl Zeiss Touit 12mm F2.8 In Depth Review - Ultra Wide Options Sony 10-18mm OSS, Rokinon 12mm f2 or Touit Distagon 12mm for Sony E mount Cameras tested on the sony a6000 but also used onf NEX 5, NEX 7 and a5100. Buy it on Amazon:
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Since this review Zeiss has updated the firmware. Upside is it's free. Downside is you have mail it in to have it done.
I use a A6000 love it, been looking for more tips on using it and your videos keep popping up. Good channel and information, Thanks! Subscribed look forward to watching more!
I've just found your videos and I've found them to be among the most informative and useful photography vids that I've seen. One request... use screen capture software instead of filming the monitor.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks. And good point. I will. Thanks again.
damn it, those finger nails...
Nice review,
I use Rokinon 12mm f2 and for correction in LR I use Zeiss Touit 12mm lens profile, works perfect.
Nice. They do have about the same amount of barrel distortion. You must of found a better copy then I had.
Yes, only thing I don’t like is amount of CA but that is easily corrected in LR. I don’t do any professional work so lens flare doesn’t bother me, in some shots I actually like it
ObelixCMM If you like lens flare check out the USSR Russian made lens. It doesnt have as many coatings on the glass and you actually get a really unique (real to life, irony) lens flare. It's super cheap, and mounts directly to Sony a6000! Check Ebay. 58mm f2 or "2/58" for $35-55. Manual focus, but also manual aperture ring, so you can still control the aperture (unlike with modern lenses on manual mode or adapter to the sony a6000.)
Thanks for your review. After using the Touit 12mm for 7 years I can say my lens had a real issue with software. Only after sending the lens to Zeiss service twice I got (or I hope so) it well fixed. It is not reliable as old glass including for instance Nikon AF
This is a fantastic review!! It answers all my questions, contrary to other reviews... I am in Fuji, using a Pro2 with the 10-24mm and I use it to shoot night architecture and skies. I want to switch because Fuji lacks choices in terms of lenses, even of the ones available are nothing short of extraordinary. But I moved to the countryside and my photography style is changing; I want to shoot wildlife a bit and just use longer lenses to have huge compression. But I do still want to shoot architecture from time to time. So thanks for the detailed and very precise review, with examples!
thanks for a great video!
Thanks for the tips about make videos. Really helpful!
great video, pleasant to watch and very informative
Nice review
Thats very helpfull video,,,
I just got the Sony 10-18mm on my A6000, whats the easiest way for me to tell whether I got a good copy or not?
photoshop has now correction profiles for most Samyang/Rokinon
@Lavikka Photography Thank you for the video! I just made the switch from a Canon 50D to the Sony a6000 and I am loving it!!! I do, however, need a wide lens for stills. I'm debating whether to keep my Canon EFS 10-22 f3.5-4.5 USM (and just purchase an adaptor) or to just buy an E mount based wide lens... What do recommend???
Definitely not the canon. The af will be slow and ca's are heavy on that lens.. 3 great options. This lens, sony 10-18mm and Rokinon 12mm f2.0 for manual focus..
Does the firmware 2.0 upgrade of the 12mm touit fix the weird autofocus chatter issue on say the a6300? Would really like an ultra wide with 2.8 ability and autofocus to use for video. Thanks!
Yes. Make sure you buy a Touit manufactured after 12-2015. That should have the correct firmware. If you find an earlier version then you have to send it into Zeiss to get the firmware updated.
Did he just do an oil change?
PS; use a tilt shift lens for architecture work!
Use a 12mm 2.0 rokinon and love it on the a6000.... test reports were ex for it that I read.
Can you not manual focus with this lens on the a6000? I'm getting the message about lens not attached correctly.
You can there is a setting in the menu to enable. standby
Focus mode = manual focus e-front curtain shut = on
+clint kerfoot In the menu enable shooting without lens.
+Lavikka Photography I was messing around with it and figured it out shortly after commenting. Thank you!
is that this lens work well with a full frame camera without bizar distortion effect ?
I'm having trouble choosing which lens I should get between the sony zeiss 16-70mm f4, sony 10-18 f4 and zeiss 12 f2.8. I'm traveling to Dubai soon with my family and want a new lens for my sony a6000. I want it to be sharp, pretty good results using af, as good as it can be anyway. Smallest amount of noise. I want it to work really good to photograph landscape, architect and when there's people in the picture. Which one is better in lowlight? Which one would you recommend?? I tried the 10-18 on my dad but didn't really think it was that sharp, pretty blurry when you zoom in and alot of noise in buildings and so on. Did I use it wrong or could it be a bad batch? Grateful for fast answer.
+Sara Åkesson For a list of lenses check out my blog at www.lavikkaphotography.com/blog. I like the Rokinon. 10-18 f4 is ok. Im not a fan the 16-70 f4.
I notice this was made in 2014, before PS and LR had lens correction profiles for the Samyangs. Have you evaluated the adequacy of the software correction in PS & LR?
Yes and I think it does a fairly good job overall.
Bought this lens and found it horrible for video, the auto focus is really slow on the a6300. Is the Sony 10-18 f4 the best option for a a6300 on a gimbal? Or is there anything sharper? I'd like to use the Sigma art 18-35 but the MC11 and metabones adapters seem awful for autofocus
Find out what firmware is on the toiut. If it's made prior to December of last year then it needs a firmware upgrade.
The 10-18 works well for video. Not as sharp as the touit though for photography.
What did you end up getting? I was looking for the exact same thing!
I use the Touit 12mm f2.8
Have you tested the Touit 32mm 1.8 on the A6000? It appears that some of its border softness at wider apertures are due to the sensor of the Nex-7. The same lens in Fuji mount shows less disparity from the center to the border, taking into account the fewer MP of the Fuji sensor. I say this after comparing the lens reviews on Photozone for both mounts.
+Harvey Louis I did and it was just ok. Sigma 30mm is equally as sharp. Sony 28mm f2 is even better. The Touit has really loud af. Also note that version prior to 2015 weren't compatible with PDAF.
I read about the 32mm Touit having loud AF. I am looking for a stills lens, though. I also read that with the latest firmware, the Touit is compatible with hybrid AF. The Sigma only goes to f2.8 and I am looking for a low light option. I read that the Sony 28mm has loads of distortion. I am also considering the Sony 35mm 1.8 OSS but I have read a couple of reviewers saying the 32mm Touit is better. If money was no object, I would go for the Sony Zeiss 24mm 1.8.
The 28m f2 does have distortion but it's still a better lens with lower ca's. I've tested them side by side and the sony is just better wide open.
A lens that distorts over 4% is not for me. I prefer to leave distortion uncorrected for maximum sharpness. I don't architectural photography but over 4% barrel distortion is too much.
nice video
very helpful when i finding the ultra wide len for my a6000
and one question
this lens compare Samyang 12 mm 1:2.0 NCS CS
Which one u recommend??
I had 12mm Samyang and I liked it. Its equally as sharp but the corners are not as good.
Great video! I want to buy wide angle lens to shoot landscape. I don't shoot architect. I have sony a6000. Which one do you recommend? Zeiss Touit 12mm f2.8 or Sony 10-18mm f4? Thanks!
+Yan Naing Lin Touit 12mm.
So for video it's better to use sony lenses because of good autofocus? or it any other option? i want one wide lense and one more like 50mm (in 35mm equivalent)
+Патрик Стар Yes its noisy. If you focus manually then it won't matter but if you want af that wide then the only other option is the Sony 10-18 f4. Look at the Sigma 30mm f 1.4 I just reviewed too.
Were you filming in AVCHD? Kind of grainy....could you film in XAVCS and compare the two recordings?
That's not something a CODEC can fix, just get better lighting! I'm actually disappointed in XAVCS for 1080 probably because AVCHD is just that good.
After and having seen your videos on a6000 I bought a6000 with kit lens. I also bought Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS and Sigma 30mm F2.8 DN. Having decided to sell all my canon 5D marked III and 7D with all equipment.
I would like to have a good wide-angle lens and think a lot about whether I should buy Samyang / Rokinon 12mm or save for Carl Zeiss Touit 12mm F2.8.
Have you tried the Sony camera app Lens Compensation with Samyang / Rokinon 12mm and see if it helps its distortion?
I have a Sigma EX 10-20mm 1: 4-5.6 DC HSM. Do you have the opportunity to test such a Sigma on a6000? It might be that I have to keep it if it is otherwise doing well. I can not find nogel test with it and a6000 on RUclips.
In addition to all the tests I see several years, your absolutely the best.
Thank you very much for your videos
Michal Juul Thanks. Here is what you need to know. The rokinon 12 and Touit have close to the same element design but the touit has better coatings and better corners. A lot of people use the touit profile to help correct the rokinon in photoshop. You need a Sony E or FE lens to use the in camera correction. I haven't tested the Sigma 10-20. I did use it once on a Nikon and liked it well enough. If you have budget then look at Sony's own 10-18f4. I liked it more then the Toiut but if you are on a budget. go Rokinon.
Lavikka Photography Prices here in Denmark
Sony 10-18 F4 $ 882
Samyang 12 mm 1: 2.0 NCS CS $ 405
Carl Zeiss Touit 12mm F2.8 $ 1,117
If I could buy Carl Zeiss Touit 12mm F2.8 in B & H for $ 600 and avoid tax will I save $ 517 it will be delicious
I think I try Samyang 12mm 1: 2.0 NCS CS and hope that I get a good model.
And then I buy Sony 10-18 F4 later when ALL my Canon sold. There would I like to get between $ 4,000 and $ 4,500
Any thoughts on how the 16mm pancake with the ECL-VCU1 adapter compares with these lenses here?
***** The 16mm is really soft in general and adding more glass makes it worse. The 12mm is a far better option.
Gotcha. Thanks man!
Have you had an opportunity to use the Touit 32mm 1.8? If so, what were your impressions?
+Harvey Louis It's very unimpressive. Really soft wide open. Sigma 30mm is sharper at f2.8.
Lensrentals says otherwise:
www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/05/finally-got-around-touit
+Lavikka Photography Looks rather sharp to me, even at f2: www.flickr.com/photos/akositric/15759010091
+Lavikka Photography Thats not true! Very sharp wide open!
Its true. Soft wide open at 2900 lines of resolution and get sharper at f2.8 to 3300 lines.
can we use this lens with the Sony A7II body ?
This lens is meant for apsc size so there will be massive vignetting.
Thank you very much for replaying. I have a sony A7II and I need vide angle lens what can you recommend for me ?
If you want an ultra wide then I am excited about this. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1275065-REG/rokinon_io14af_e_af_14mm_f2_8_full.html
thank you so much for your recommendations.
you can use this, dont worry about vignetting cuz the a7II has apsc lens detector so it'll automatically adjust the camera to adapt to the lens
By zoom you mean focus, right? This is a prime lens, no zoom.
Yes. AF.
please compare the 12mm touit /a6300 vs 18mm batis / a7ii
If I can find one locally then I will.
that would be a unfair comparison
Hi, can i use the touit 12/2.8 with my sony a6000 for astrophotograpfy ?
+Christos Santakas Yes, just manual focus with it.
Thank you !
is that this lens carl zeiss touit 12mm f2.8 work well with any full frame sony camera ?
These are for apsc size so they won't cover full frame.
any suggestion or recommendation ultra wide lens for full frame camera ?
The16-35 f4 Zeiss for Sony. If you have the alpha adapter then you can find the 16-35 f2.8. I use a Nikon 20mm ai. I don't like to go much wider then that.
thank you for this great info.
Do you recommend the 20mm with wide converter or is that junk?
Converters are not something I would ever use.
Lavikka Photography thank you I was wondering if that sony 20mm was worth it but it's just not wide enough on its own.
I had it and it worked well
silly guy, should talk about 12mm zeiss only, that is the title say.
I think I have had it with the Sony e mount, their lenses are overpriced and lack the sharpness to take advantage of the sensor... I am going back to a full body DSLR,either Nikon or canon.
Which is better a6000 or d5300?
Syahmie Khadari a6000. They have the same image quality but the a6000 also does 12fps and has a way faster af.
can you clean dem fingers please
How about you go clean your ass... I mean, your mouth?
Phewww, I'm glad he sad what was on his hands. I thought he was an artist or a mechanic or something. Great video otherwise!
Very annoying that you keep talking about all other lenses except the one you're supposed to review. I just keep jumping forward. Get to the point and FOCUS!
Agreed, a few sentences referencing the other lenses would have been enough. Don't care about fingernails, here for information regarding the TITLE of the video. In addition, using screen capture software would have been far better than shooting from a camera onto a computer screen at 8:08, we can't make out the detail you're seeing at all. Problem with the 12mm Touit is that it has pretty bad chroma capabilities, so when you say 'it's great for astrophotography", well.. not particularly. The Rokinon variant handles astrophotography much better than the Touit. How do I know? I own and use both.
Had to laugh when I saw this guy blow on the lens, instant loss of credibility.
wash your hands
lame