I was hesitant to spend so much money on a phone app. Tossed back and forth between this nvh app and pico's kit, but I've been very satisfied with the app so far! I've learned a lot and also solved a few vibrations without guessing. It's so helpful to be able to zoom in on a specific speed zone (tire / propshaft / engine) I recommend this app for sure.
I'm glad you like it! There aren't many of us who haven't mis-diagnosed the source of a vibration at some stage, so I definitely feel that everyone can use a great tool like the NVH app to make life easier.
Haven't used their software, but there info on 1st order vibrations led me to find and correct an issue where the auto box in my HyundaI Iload was bouncing on its mounts at 13hz and my legs and backside was feeling it. And it was bad. The front tyres needed to be run on a road force balancer to reduce the vibration. This was before their app was out. So found a vibration app to read the Hz at 90 kph. Used some tricky maths to compute and get 13hz. It turns out this Van is sensitive to tyre variation and the auto box will resonate at the 13hz frequency if its not perfect. They no there stuff these guys👍
Thank you Steven for this one. I have been looking at this app for years, but with a price tag of more than 500$ wasn't very "wife-friendly". I have been using a simple vibration analysis app and made the calculations myself based on the tire size, vehicle speed, and the provided FFT, but this app is spot-on. Very nice to see it now at 99$.. Just bought it and looking forward to taking the car for a test drive.
And thanks to you too for creating this great diagnostic app! I hope that I can help get the word out there that there is a more scientific way to find vibration issues in your car.
I've used this to diagnose the vibrations in my Mustang. Driveshaft speed oriented. Unfortunately Ford here in Sweden haven't been as quick as me in finding the issue. I wish they'd use this app.
Hi, thanks for watching and for sharing your experience with the app! I would expect that main dealers would have something like Pico that they could use, but at the very least they should be using NVH. Now that you have narrowed it down you can check for driveshaft damage or worn parts, as well as checking the input shaft to the differential and the output shaft of the gearbox - as they are all going at driveshaft speed. All the best in getting to the bottom of the issue!
Who else has had an impossible to find vibration in their car? Here is a breakdown of the chapters in this video: 0:00 Overview 2:14 Installation 3:37 Setup 4:31 Test Drive 1 Data Recording 5:46 Test Drive 1 Diagnosis 7:01 Fixing Issue Number 1 8:21 Test Drive 2 Data Recording 8:54 Test Drive 2 Diagnosis 9:30 Fixing Issue Number 2 11:05 Fixing Issue Number 3 11:38 Final Test Drive 11:52 Final Test Drive Analysis 12:21 Overview
@@rpsspain1966 Hi, thanks for watching! If you are confident that the vibration has nothing to do with the gearbox, then you can just let the app choose 'default' gear ratios, and then the only thing you have to look up is the differential ratio - so not too bad (and even the differential ratio can be worked out manually by lifting the car and turning the tires/driveshaft by hand if you have to).
Great video about what you can do with this app and how effective it is. But I wonder if this video was sponsored in any way by Vibrate Software Inc (aka NVH app developer) ?
Fantastic , I've been looking for few months something like this , I've changed a lot of parts on my bmw and still have a big vibration at hole car , the mechanic doesn't know what else could be , I've changed the propshaft bearings, engine and gearbox mounts, new tyres,balanced , all front kit suspension The car vibrates terrible and nobody knows what could be
@@adyvalcea4942 I 4.171 (11.05) II 2.34 (6.2) III 1.521 (4.03) IV 1.143 (3.03) V 0.867 (2.3) VI 0.691 (1.83) R 3.403 Traction: RWD (rear-wheel drive) Final drive ratio std: 2.65 NOW WE NEED A FEEDBACK!
Hi, annoying vibrations in BMW cars drive a lot of people crazy for sure, and I am currently working on a video that covers every possible cause. For vibrations at that speed I have found that in almost all cases it is either that the tire is not perfectly round or that the alloy wheel has been damaged (usually the inside edge). It can also be a lost balance weight on the wheel or rust under the brake disc, or sometimes a warped bearing hub if someone has put your wheel nuts on with an air ratchet instead of a torque wrench.
Thank you for replying! I’ve had my wheels balanced a day ago so maybe it is my brakes! Because this randomly started on its own. Maybe 6 months after doing some top engine work. Potholes are brutal here! So either bent rim or the brakes. Thank you very much!
On a BMW it is always a good idea to watch the wheel and tire when it is being balanced. If the tire is 1mm out of round or the wheel is damaged in any way then you will feel it and no amount of balancing will correct it. Also, only use somewhere that uses Hunter Road Force balancing machines - only the best will do for these fussy cars.
Hi, thanks for watching! My favorite OBDII scanner for BMW is the Autel MaxiAp AP200, and it works well for other car makes too. I made a video about it:ruclips.net/video/9c6IGE0PhtY/видео.html
I have vibrations in my front end that’s driving me crazy..2008 528i. Can’t afford that app tho..would anyone have any suggestions? Usually happens around 40 mph..thanks
Hi, I feel a new video is needed! BMW vibration finding is a major nuisance because of all of the possible causes. The first thing to eliminate are the wheels/tires - so if you can swap them out for a known good set then you can eliminate that as a cause otherwise you will need to check for wheel damage, tires out-of-round, and wheel balance. After that the most possible items are the tie rod ends and lower ball-joints if the vibration happens at a steady speed. If the vibration only happens when braking then it gets more complex. If it has been 5+ years since the last suspension work, then a lot of mechanics would recommend buying the kit that includes all of the suspension arms and replacing them all in one go - and I agree with that as once one part starts to wear out then the others are often not far behind.
@@StevenBTuner really appreciate your quick response..the only thing I have tried is changing the control/thrush arms..but that didn’t help! I’ll try what u suggested first..I did put the front wheels on the back..still no luck..I thank you much!! Joe
I must be missing something. I show the software for IOS only costing $99.99. Have they lowered the price? I work as a Senior Master Technician at a Ford dealership here in the United States. The Ford authorized NVH tool is $6,000.00. Even if Vibrate Software is $399.00, it's still a good price.
@@StevenBTunerThanks for the quick reply. As one professional to another, excellent video. I'll probably purchase the software, even if it helps me diagnose one difficult NVH concern, it will be worth it.
Hi, thanks for watching! Whether the $399.99 price tag is considered an absolute bargain or overpriced is really going to come down to personal considerations like how much your time is worth, how many cars you will use it on, and how much money/respect/time/future business that is lost if a wrong diagnosis is made. This product doesn't have any competitors at this price point, so it is hard to say whether it is perfectly priced or not - at one end of the scale there are free vibration analyzers and sound recorders you could use (but then you have to try and analyze and interpret the wave-forms yourself), and at the other end are vibration analysis tools like Pico, but by the time you have specified it with multiple sensors you are into the thousands of dollars.
I was hesitant to spend so much money on a phone app. Tossed back and forth between this nvh app and pico's kit, but I've been very satisfied with the app so far! I've learned a lot and also solved a few vibrations without guessing. It's so helpful to be able to zoom in on a specific speed zone (tire / propshaft / engine) I recommend this app for sure.
Hi, great to hear from someone who has used the app for a while with good results!
To be honest I would never believe if to hear that from someone telling app helped troubleshoot theses problems yuo find. Truly amazing. thanks
As you can probably tell, I'm impressed! Thanks for watching!
You really did a great job with real-world troubleshooting examples. Thank you
I'm glad you like it! There aren't many of us who haven't mis-diagnosed the source of a vibration at some stage, so I definitely feel that everyone can use a great tool like the NVH app to make life easier.
Great app. I've purchased! paid $99.00. A worthy investment for sure!
Great to hear! (and even better at the discounted price).
Great video. Thank you. Just purchased this app. Only $99 now.
It would be great to hear how you go in finding the problem vibrations!
Haven't used their software, but there info on 1st order vibrations led me to find and correct an issue where the auto box in my HyundaI Iload was bouncing on its mounts at 13hz and my legs and backside was feeling it. And it was bad.
The front tyres needed to be run on a road force balancer to reduce the vibration. This was before their app was out. So found a vibration app to read the Hz at 90 kph. Used some tricky maths to compute and get 13hz.
It turns out this Van is sensitive to tyre variation and the auto box will resonate at the 13hz frequency if its not perfect. They no there stuff these guys👍
Well done on the problem solving! But you are quite right - they have put the knowledge along with the tricky math into an app that anyone can use.
Thank you Steven for this one. I have been looking at this app for years, but with a price tag of more than 500$ wasn't very "wife-friendly".
I have been using a simple vibration analysis app and made the calculations myself based on the tire size, vehicle speed, and the provided FFT, but this app is spot-on.
Very nice to see it now at 99$.. Just bought it and looking forward to taking the car for a test drive.
That's a truly bargain price for this useful tool!
Excellent app review! Clear audio, great video editing, easy to follow process, and great examples of actual vibration diagnosis and repairs.
And thanks to you too for creating this great diagnostic app! I hope that I can help get the word out there that there is a more scientific way to find vibration issues in your car.
Much appreciated Steven the
Bma is becoming a frequent smooth runner
Super!
I've used this to diagnose the vibrations in my Mustang. Driveshaft speed oriented. Unfortunately Ford here in Sweden haven't been as quick as me in finding the issue. I wish they'd use this app.
Hi, thanks for watching and for sharing your experience with the app! I would expect that main dealers would have something like Pico that they could use, but at the very least they should be using NVH. Now that you have narrowed it down you can check for driveshaft damage or worn parts, as well as checking the input shaft to the differential and the output shaft of the gearbox - as they are all going at driveshaft speed. All the best in getting to the bottom of the issue!
Wow! Another banger Steven! Good job!
Glad you liked it!
Who else has had an impossible to find vibration in their car?
Here is a breakdown of the chapters in this video:
0:00 Overview
2:14 Installation
3:37 Setup
4:31 Test Drive 1 Data Recording
5:46 Test Drive 1 Diagnosis
7:01 Fixing Issue Number 1
8:21 Test Drive 2 Data Recording
8:54 Test Drive 2 Diagnosis
9:30 Fixing Issue Number 2
11:05 Fixing Issue Number 3
11:38 Final Test Drive
11:52 Final Test Drive Analysis
12:21 Overview
Problem for EU users is getting the info required to set up before road testing.
@@rpsspain1966 Hi, thanks for watching! If you are confident that the vibration has nothing to do with the gearbox, then you can just let the app choose 'default' gear ratios, and then the only thing you have to look up is the differential ratio - so not too bad (and even the differential ratio can be worked out manually by lifting the car and turning the tires/driveshaft by hand if you have to).
This be very useful for my 2020 focus and 2007 Range Rover
Hi, it has come down in price a lot since I made the video.
Great showcase and recommendation. Cheers buddy!
Thanks - it is a great app and needs to be more widely known.
Awesome! Great content as always!
Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you like it!
Great video about what you can do with this app and how effective it is. But I wonder if this video was sponsored in any way by Vibrate Software Inc (aka NVH app developer) ?
Hi, thanks for watching! My current policy is to never do advertising or do any sponsored content.
Fantastic , I've been looking for few months something like this , I've changed a lot of parts on my bmw and still have a big vibration at hole car , the mechanic doesn't know what else could be , I've changed the propshaft bearings, engine and gearbox mounts, new tyres,balanced , all front kit suspension
The car vibrates terrible and nobody knows what could be
All the best in getting to the bottom of the issue!
Thanks 😊, how can I find out what is my bmw differential ratio? It's an e60 525d automatic.
Many thanks
And how I can find the gears ratios as well ? Thanks
@@adyvalcea4942
I
4.171 (11.05)
II
2.34 (6.2)
III
1.521 (4.03)
IV
1.143 (3.03)
V
0.867 (2.3)
VI
0.691 (1.83)
R
3.403
Traction:
RWD (rear-wheel drive)
Final drive ratio std:
2.65
NOW WE NEED A FEEDBACK!
Excellent video
Many thanks!
Interesting clip. NZ 🇳🇿
Glad you enjoyed it! The price is a lot cheaper now...
Very nice!
It is a great tool, and the price is a lot less now.
Fantastic!
It costs a lot less now.
I’m having a very frustrating vibration around 60-80mph but mostly during warm weather. 2007 328xi here.
Hi, annoying vibrations in BMW cars drive a lot of people crazy for sure, and I am currently working on a video that covers every possible cause. For vibrations at that speed I have found that in almost all cases it is either that the tire is not perfectly round or that the alloy wheel has been damaged (usually the inside edge). It can also be a lost balance weight on the wheel or rust under the brake disc, or sometimes a warped bearing hub if someone has put your wheel nuts on with an air ratchet instead of a torque wrench.
Thank you for replying! I’ve had my wheels balanced a day ago so maybe it is my brakes! Because this randomly started on its own. Maybe 6 months after doing some top engine work. Potholes are brutal here! So either bent rim or the brakes. Thank you very much!
On a BMW it is always a good idea to watch the wheel and tire when it is being balanced. If the tire is 1mm out of round or the wheel is damaged in any way then you will feel it and no amount of balancing will correct it. Also, only use somewhere that uses Hunter Road Force balancing machines - only the best will do for these fussy cars.
I love this app thank you!! Do you know of a good obdll scanner for Android phone. Thanks...
Hi, thanks for watching! My favorite OBDII scanner for BMW is the Autel MaxiAp AP200, and it works well for other car makes too. I made a video about it:ruclips.net/video/9c6IGE0PhtY/видео.html
@@StevenBTuner Thank you sir.
Even for jeep Wrangler?
Hi, there a lot more presets for US made vehicles than for EU vehicles, so it should be a quicker setup for your Jeep.
I have vibrations in my front end that’s driving me crazy..2008 528i. Can’t afford that app tho..would anyone have any suggestions? Usually happens around 40 mph..thanks
Hi, I feel a new video is needed! BMW vibration finding is a major nuisance because of all of the possible causes. The first thing to eliminate are the wheels/tires - so if you can swap them out for a known good set then you can eliminate that as a cause otherwise you will need to check for wheel damage, tires out-of-round, and wheel balance. After that the most possible items are the tie rod ends and lower ball-joints if the vibration happens at a steady speed. If the vibration only happens when braking then it gets more complex. If it has been 5+ years since the last suspension work, then a lot of mechanics would recommend buying the kit that includes all of the suspension arms and replacing them all in one go - and I agree with that as once one part starts to wear out then the others are often not far behind.
@@StevenBTuner really appreciate your quick response..the only thing I have tried is changing the control/thrush arms..but that didn’t help! I’ll try what u suggested first..I did put the front wheels on the back..still no luck..I
thank you much!!
Joe
@@joelane4670Torque converter
Thank you
@@marysage7960 I believe it’s the torque converter
what's wrong with straightening the existing wheel instead of buying a new one?
Hi, straightening is also a good solution.
Place by me does alloy straightening fantastically
Not Mitsubishi compatible or could I used another profile?
For non US vehicles you will need to setup your own profile, which might require a bit of research to find gear ratios etc.
Does this work wel for electric cars?
Hi, it works well for the BMW i3 and other electric BMW cars, but I can't give you an answer regarding other brands.
@@StevenBTuner thanks for quick reply
I must be missing something. I show the software for IOS only costing $99.99. Have they lowered the price? I work as a Senior Master Technician at a Ford dealership here in the United States. The Ford authorized NVH tool is $6,000.00. Even if Vibrate Software is $399.00, it's still a good price.
Hi, I just checked the App store, and you are right - a bargain to be had!
@@StevenBTunerThanks for the quick reply. As one professional to another, excellent video. I'll probably purchase the software, even if it helps me diagnose one difficult NVH concern, it will be worth it.
@@FordTechGuy Thanks! Be great to hear about your experience when you put it to use.
Does this app connect with ObD ?
Hi, the app doesn't need an OBD2 connection, but it needs a good physical connection to the vehicle.
£85 on Playstore in UK...
Hi, they've done a price reduction, but I don't know how long it will last!
Top $
Interesting but a tad expensive
Hi, the product is aimed at smaller workshops I imagine, and enthusiasts who have a few cars to keep running well.
why so much money $200 would be reasonable $500 make it overpriced
Hi, thanks for watching! Whether the $399.99 price tag is considered an absolute bargain or overpriced is really going to come down to personal considerations like how much your time is worth, how many cars you will use it on, and how much money/respect/time/future business that is lost if a wrong diagnosis is made. This product doesn't have any competitors at this price point, so it is hard to say whether it is perfectly priced or not - at one end of the scale there are free vibration analyzers and sound recorders you could use (but then you have to try and analyze and interpret the wave-forms yourself), and at the other end are vibration analysis tools like Pico, but by the time you have specified it with multiple sensors you are into the thousands of dollars.
Hi, there seems to be some discounting happening at the moment that is worth checking out if you want to get this app now.
@@StevenBTuner where can i get the discount?
@@samswildgarage8805 Hi, when I looked it was on the Apple app store it was reduced - I have no idea how long the reduction is for.
@@StevenBTuner thanks
Insanely priced software. Such greed is appalling.
Hi, the price has been reduced quite a bit since I made the video.