Yeah, I stopped watching at the 1:59 mark. You were up in the attic, you had your hole saw; how hard would it have been to drill...I dunno...DOWN. Even if you only drilled through with the pilot bit, then drilled the rest from the stall. Sorry, mate; no sub from me. Cheers.
One tip I picked up for CRJ Electrical channel is to put rubber grommets (the type you use in metal back boxes) under the 4 mounting points of the fan and then screw the fan down - reduces vibration noise.
You can also take two pieces of ply screw the first to a joist and attach the second on top with beaded silicone lowers the amount of vibrations through to the joist
Clear, excellent video and diagrams. Installed the same fan. Used the same Manrose 100T fan but hung from roof truss, supposedly less noise. Going to change over the one metre PVC flexi duct coming from fan to gable wall due to condensation in the duct during winter. After i installed it i asked my electrician to wire the fan separate to the light as originally fan came on with light, which was a pain when using the shower during the day, and the light was on! Much better now with the fan and light separate!
In the last hour, you've shown me how easy it is to deal with my steamy bathroom, fix my squeaky steps, and sort out my crap bathroom silicone finishing. Absolute hero.
I used this video to finally replace our rubbish noisy old fan with the Manrose inline model you fitted. Really happy with it - much more powerful and so quiet. Thanks for giving me the impetus to get it done as it's been annoying me for years.
Found this in my feed literally two minutes after my new Manrose fan was delivered... Google knows me too well! 😆 Some info on condensation traps would be great, but very comprehensive video, great job!
I loved how you covered everything from start to finish! 😊 Whether it's wiring up a fan isolation switch or installing the ductwork, you left no stone unturned.
Many years ago I installed a kitchen extractor vent in a soffit as you have done. It was a new build and we had a building control officer come and inspect he wasn’t happy and said it contravened building regs as the moist air would have detrimental effect on the soffits and fascia. I don’t think I’ve seen this extraction position on any new builds.
Others may have already pointed this out but many soffits on older properties were created with asbestos boards - you need to be much more protected with a high performance PPE respirator before cutting the aperture - especially when doing so from below.
That is how it is done. My cowboy has the ducting at a 45 degree angle and no condensation trap. Oh, and no fan isolator as the job was done about 10 years ago. Time to get a professional in- great to have someone with a pride in their job to show what excellence looks like.
Further to my previous comment. We never used the soffits again. We found roof tile vents much better as the ducting worked better being as short as possible and going in a vertical direction. I do like your use of insulation around the duct that will help with condensation in the duct where it lyes flat on the joists.
I've had the same fan since we bought our house 7 years ago. It's in the attic... in the box it came in, yet to be installed. Maybe after watching this, I'll finally install the bloody thing! 😂
Your posts are always very good. I was looking for how to replace the bathroom ceiling vent fixing and cover as existing one was getting yellowed and brittle. Your demonstration and tips in this video was simply perfect. Couldn’t have been more clear and helpful. Thank you.
I subbed for that demo piece that you made, great teaching aid... I'd have really liked it if you had shown wiring up the dummy, would make for a great short video that people could follow along to.
Been putting off replacing my dying fan for a while but it was getting closer! Perfectly timed. Purchased my first house recently and your videos have been insanely helpful. Thank you. :)
I always use ridged pipe stops turbulence and the build up mould in the duct. You said hard to find a fan with that extraction rate but for my downstairs bathroom fan installed over the shower area ridged ducting under the floor board this is the answer Airflow iCON60 Circular Extractor Fan for Large Bathroom, Utility Room or Kitchen 280mhr/78 ls but it’s a beast! PS I would get a humidity sensor wired up they do one that will work with that fan works good 👍🏾
@@DTech101 I found the fan itself louder though as the sound resonance in the tubes is greater and sound more easily carries in from outside.weapping in rockwool won't stop that. Yes more air flow but not worth it in my experience.
Fitted one of these manrose fans a couple of years ago and it's so much better than the small inline fan type as you say. My only regret is not upgrading the ducting at the same time to the insulated type. I'll have to get a handyman to do it now as access is so poor into my eaves. Good video and you've got +1 subscriber from me. Cheers
Excellent video, thanks for doing this. Though I'll be okay through having taken notes, a downloadable/printable wiring diagram would be so helpful for when I'm up in the loft etc, when you just want a printout to make sure you're doing it right.
Very made and edited video. Just what I needed to explain this type of install to my son, I bet he will listen to you far better than for me. Cheers. Time for a cold one.
Just moved into a house with no extractor fan and will be following your video when I install my new one. Thanks for this, it's really informative and very well presented. +1 follower.
I fitted one of these Manrose fans around 6 years ago when installing a new bathroom, however I opted for a moisture detector to control the fan, fitted in the ceiling with a manual override, an excellent quality extractor fan, and is fully automated, the fan will run until the moisture in the bathroom has been removed before turning itself off.
I installed the Timer version of the Manrose fan over the shower and also have an always on version (set to lowest speed) in the main part of the bathroom. Did this late last year and we've had no issues with condesnation, mould or "lingering smells" :) Must admit I'm surprised at how quiet these fans are, no need for anti-vibration measures at all.
Thanks for the vid..... I've just had my new extractor fitted used solid tubing with a slight fall to the outside vent to drain any condensation to the outside, also added rubber grommets under the fan to minimise vibration, plus removed the flyscreen to prevent build up of fluff/dust and added a backdraught flap which keeps the bathroom draught-free especially in winter.
Brilliant video! 👌🏻 Thanks for filming this, really clear instructions throughout and the demonstration board was perfect to help break it down! Managed to install a HIB Cyclone from scratch with zero issues 😊
Just a tip for the less powerful fans, with the duct work I would always recommend using solid ductwork as opposed to flexi. Better air flow, less resistance, less dirt and bacteria captured over time, Also undercut the door to allow make up air.
I just want to say thank you so much I was so confused and working in my bathroom right now and I don't know what to do thanks to you I want your video and I'm really happy because I have a brass 5 and I transfer to PVC thank you so much
I fitted one a few years ago, those fans are brilliant. The bathroom had mould when I bought it as the builders in 2005 fitted a pathetic mains fan in the ceiling nowhere near the shower and bodged the ducting and I swear it couldn't hold a sheet of toilet paper up because I tried it! The Manrose can hold a flattened toilet roll middle up! And instead of motor vibration the main noise is the rather more pleasant whoosh of airflow.
I've installed one of these, but only after first buying the version without a timer - so be aware that that exists. It didn't even cross my mind that they wouldn't have a timer, thus didn't check the spec, like you wouldn't check the spec of a car to check it has a steering wheel! Screwfix brilliant as ever and exchanged it for the (more expensive) timer version. I've also turned mine down to the lowest power setting as thats fine, and it was surprisingly noisy on medium or high.
No, don't turn the fan by the light switch, its noisy when you don't always need it and you're pumping expensive warm air outside. The best way to turn the fan on IMO is to fit a flowmeter to the cold feed of the mixer shower. So, the fan only comes on when the shower is turned on and it tells you when the mixer is up to temperature as the fan only comes on when the mixer is pulling cold water. I fitted this in my previous house and it worked well for 15 years. I'll be doing the same in my new house.
Great video. It would be nice to have a humidistat option with maybe a wireless humidistat possibly but I suppose this could also be possible with a bit of ingenuity.
This video is perfectly timed, I'm ripping out my ensuite and redoing the builders garbage effort (many things wrong including leaks) and I'm putting one of these fans in at the same time 👍
Top video mate! Just what i was looking for! Might of been worth adding that the door for the bathroom should be cut back to allow air flow. But over all great video. I will be installing one of these in the summer.
I have the same fan but in the 150mm version. Smallish bathroom. Fan over the shower. 1.5m from bathroom to fan then 1.5m from fan to tile vent. Are these ment to clear steam instantly? Ours does clear it but takes a good 5 or so minutes after showering. I bought the 150mm version thinking it'll do it easily. I've also used insulated ducting. Any ideas 💁♂️
Just used the exact same fan for our bathroom, the performance is amazing. I used solid pipe from the fan out through the gable end, just because I worried about moisture pooling inside a long flexi pipe. I have a small drop on the solid pipe, so it's all downhill to the gable vent.
I’ve just swapped an in ceiling style fan which just wasn’t clearing the bathroom of steam with 1 of these style in extractor fans. Doesn’t seem to have made much difference at all even though it’s got almost 3x airflow rate. Whilst I was upgrading the fan I also used solid pipe from the intake vent in ceiling to the fan itself (flexi ducting from the fan exhaust out to the eaves vent as that’s difficult to get to)
You are legend. I have bought whole set from your link and set up my bathroom. My question: how can I use SONOFF BASIC switch instead of 1 way switch ?
Now I know the manual shows flexible ducting but.... Air ducting is always better when the inside of the duct is smooth. For such a short run I'd have been using 4" tube with an insulated wrapper. the rough surface in flexible ducting slows down the air travel, it causes turbulence and reduces the efficiencies of the fan. Perhaps not a problem for this install since it's a short run, but worth using a couple of lengths of tube between flexible angle joints. Cracking video, and I could feel your pain filming in that heat... 👍👍
@@flyingwhiteindian In the winter if the duct was not insulated it would get very cold and the steam would condensate in the duct before getting outside which is not desirable.
Brilliant update. My question is that my Manrose fan goes up to the roof into a platsic tile vent, rather than a vent in the soffit. Was like that when I moved in. So is the roof vent better than the soffit vent?
With a tile vent in the roof above the bathroom ceiling what is the best way to have the ducting since it will in effect slope upwards to exit as opposed to down like in the soffit example in the video?
Great video, but one little thing worth mentioning is that any electrical requirement in the installation instructions for any accessory need to be adhered to in order for the installation to be compliant with wiring regulations, and most of these shower fans call for 3A fusing on both the permanent and live cores - so the usual 6A MCB for the lighting radial isn't sufficient for compliance. I usually install a separate single backbox next to the isolator with a 2-way grid plate containing two fuse holders fitted with 3A fuses. It's an added expense and arguably overkill, but technically needs to be done in order to make the installation 100% compliant.
That seems like a lot of wires and 3x back boxes (inc the light switch). Could you instead have a 3a fused DP FCU somewhere in the loft next to the fan? Thanks
Is it better to have the vent over the shower area we put an inline in to replace the ceiling fan but still getting mould patches but only in the shower area unfortunately room doesn’t have external window
Great video. One question I got. Has the isolator switch got the 3amp? “The installation must have an omnipolar switch with a contact separation of at least 3mm. The circuit must be protected by either a 3 Amp fuse or suitable 3А МСВ.”
Hi, just fitted the same fan in our loft but the timer doesn’t work(the fan stops when I turn the light off) I’m sure the wirings right just wondered if you had any ideas? Keep up the good work, really appreciate your videos 👍
Hi mate - I need to replace an existing fan that has an led light. The fan has totally died after 14 years. Can I get away without changing the external Vent on the outside roof?
Any recommendations for ventilation in a downstairs shower / toilet room without any direct access to the external wall - it’s adjusting a neighbouring property?
Thank you very much man you have me so much I have a brass pipe I transfer to pvc I was kind of confused and I know what to do I was watching too many videos and you are the only one number one
We had the same setup fitted in our new en-suite recently, it’s outstanding and going to do the same in our new bathroom. Wiring it up is a bit confusing for me though, a job for the spark!
Good video. I fitted one except the fan on the joist causes vibration. Tried mats and rubber under fan, no difference. Finally had to hang it from the rafters with chains. Fan sits on a board like a swing.
good video... i hope to know how to reduce or mitigate the noise and vibration arisen from the extract fan even though acoustic mat is placed below the fan?
thank you very much for this video this is something we need in our house as it doesn`t have an extractor in our bathroom. i will need an electriction though as i`m not competant enough to do the electrical work. a very good video. thank you.
Hi just wondering can you advise what you should do with the permanent live if you have an extractor that doesn’t have a timer …. I’ve replaced a broken timer extractor for one without but now it’s constantly on the bathroom switch doesn’t turn it off?
Hi mate great video. I would like to wire the fan to a separate switch rather than to a light. Would it just be like the wiring to the isolator? Cheers. John.
I’ve just replaced our manrose MF100T after 7 years of use (it died gradually getting slower and slower and yes it was cleaned annually). They are great, quiet extractors, however, having tried all sorts of ducting the wind noise in our small ensuite is very loud. I would be interested in any advice to limit this noise, my 2 thoughts are: 1. Fit a different inlet grill in the ensuit, maybe a different design may cut down the wind noise? 2. Set the fan speed to med or low? However I love the volume of air this thing sucks out on high speed, it almost closes the door! 🤣 Grateful for any advice please…..👍
Does it need to be insulated ducting the lads who installed mine used standard. Also they just seemed to put it into soffit without putting in a vent. Seems like moisture level in attic has got worse since...
Hi great video once again I have the same in-line fan can you tell me where you got the inside ceiling vent from so I can get mine fitted the ones I have seen need screwing right on the edge of the hole and don’t have much length for the ducting to fix to many thanks .
I had one of these installed when I had my soffits replaced a few years ago so went in through the roof tiles but mine has never worked so well? any idea why? It's installed exactly how you have done it. I took the additional step of adding sound insulation/vibration mat and then screwing it onto the wood so its even quieter.
Would having the vent above the shower not cause a cold draft coming down when showering , say if you don't put the lights on in winter? Would being slightly further from where you stand be better?
I'm analising the possibilty of adding one of these on a kitchen floor with a 150 mm tube going up to a kitchen island balcony. Do you think it would work upside down? sucking the fumes from cooking straight to the floor and outside my house, maximum 1 meter distance tube?
The Manrose MF100T instructions state it must be fitted to a circuit with a 3A fuse. 18th edition states manufacturer's instructions are taken into account for electrical installation. I use a double pole fused spur as the isolator with a 3A fuse fitted and a double pole light switch so the lighting circuit and extractor circuit are switched separately when installing these.
@@bertbox69 personally I am not keen on timed fans, if you want a shower or bath in the daytime you either have to have the lights on or flick the lights on or off, a separate on off switch is best.
Fitted the same model before and it works great. But just fitted one in my own home and its not working properly.theres about a metre of duct either side of the fan. It sucks a tissue up from about 2" away. And its set on high. Any suggestions? Thx
This one was tough to film, hope you find it useful. Please sub if you like the content 😊
Working in lofts is the worst believe me.. All the hard work & effort is Much much appreciated. ❤
Appreciate all the efforts. Definitely sound from down near my way (Norwich).
Yeah, I stopped watching at the 1:59 mark. You were up in the attic, you had your hole saw; how hard would it have been to drill...I dunno...DOWN. Even if you only drilled through with the pilot bit, then drilled the rest from the stall.
Sorry, mate; no sub from me.
Cheers.
Thanks for the video; it was really helpful. Does the fan have a timer that can be set to a specific running time?
@@tetedur377because he’s not rough like you and doesn’t want the finished surface to blow out
One tip I picked up for CRJ Electrical channel is to put rubber grommets (the type you use in metal back boxes) under the 4 mounting points of the fan and then screw the fan down - reduces vibration noise.
Sounds like a great tip that and something I’ve never done 👍
I do the same but use tap washers.
You can also take two pieces of ply screw the first to a joist and attach the second on top with beaded silicone lowers the amount of vibrations through to the joist
It's almost like you know what I need to do in our house! 🤣
Another brilliant and easy to follow guide. Thank you DIY King 👑
I screw these fans through cheap gardeners' kneeling pads, about £5 a pop from Amazon.
Clear, excellent video and diagrams. Installed the same fan. Used the same Manrose 100T fan but hung from roof truss, supposedly less noise. Going to change over the one metre PVC flexi duct coming from fan to gable wall due to condensation in the duct during winter. After i installed it i asked my electrician to wire the fan separate to the light as originally fan came on with light, which was a pain when using the shower during the day, and the light was on! Much better now with the fan and light separate!
In the last hour, you've shown me how easy it is to deal with my steamy bathroom, fix my squeaky steps, and sort out my crap bathroom silicone finishing. Absolute hero.
I used this video to finally replace our rubbish noisy old fan with the Manrose inline model you fitted. Really happy with it - much more powerful and so quiet. Thanks for giving me the impetus to get it done as it's been annoying me for years.
Glad to have helped out!
Found this in my feed literally two minutes after my new Manrose fan was delivered... Google knows me too well! 😆 Some info on condensation traps would be great, but very comprehensive video, great job!
I loved how you covered everything from start to finish! 😊 Whether it's wiring up a fan isolation switch or installing the ductwork, you left no stone unturned.
Glad it was helpful! That was my plan 👍
Many years ago I installed a kitchen extractor vent in a soffit as you have done. It was a new build and we had a building control officer come and inspect he wasn’t happy and said it contravened building regs as the moist air would have detrimental effect on the soffits and fascia. I don’t think I’ve seen this extraction position on any new builds.
Others may have already pointed this out but many soffits on older properties were created with asbestos boards - you need to be much more protected with a high performance PPE respirator before cutting the aperture - especially when doing so from below.
That is how it is done. My cowboy has the ducting at a 45 degree angle and no condensation trap. Oh, and no fan isolator as the job was done about 10 years ago. Time to get a professional in- great to have someone with a pride in their job to show what excellence looks like.
Further to my previous comment. We never used the soffits again. We found roof tile vents much better as the ducting worked better being as short as possible and going in a vertical direction. I do like your use of insulation around the duct that will help with condensation in the duct where it lyes flat on the joists.
I've had the same fan since we bought our house 7 years ago. It's in the attic... in the box it came in, yet to be installed. Maybe after watching this, I'll finally install the bloody thing! 😂
Hah do it! 😊
Same here, only - 4-yrs though..
Same here 1yr just have to wire it in now.
Your posts are always very good. I was looking for how to replace the bathroom ceiling vent fixing and cover as existing one was getting yellowed and brittle. Your demonstration and tips in this video was simply perfect. Couldn’t have been more clear and helpful. Thank you.
Literally just fitted two of these on my current job. I always recommend these to my customers.
Deffo a great fan 👍
Thank you so much for this video. My crappy sf100t packed up…followed this video and installed the MF100t….wow what a difference- thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks to you too 👍
That wiring model was very helpful to understanding what people have done before, so even if I don't do anything I know what might be needed.
Installed one of these 2 years ago. So much more efficient than the usual extractors and quieter too!
Absolutely 👍
I subbed for that demo piece that you made, great teaching aid... I'd have really liked it if you had shown wiring up the dummy, would make for a great short video that people could follow along to.
Been putting off replacing my dying fan for a while but it was getting closer! Perfectly timed. Purchased my first house recently and your videos have been insanely helpful. Thank you. :)
Glad to help 😊
I always use ridged pipe stops turbulence and the build up mould in the duct. You said hard to find a fan with that extraction rate but for my downstairs bathroom fan installed over the shower area ridged ducting under the floor board this is the answer
Airflow iCON60 Circular Extractor Fan for Large Bathroom, Utility Room or Kitchen 280mhr/78 ls but it’s a beast!
PS I would get a humidity sensor wired up they do one that will work with that fan works good 👍🏾
Ok used rigid tubes and they are so much louder I defo do not recommend it. Fan noise and noise from outside
@@TrickyTree84 louder maybe more airflow definitely I just suppressed the noise with slabs of rockwool, as extraction rate is what is really needed.
@@DTech101 I found the fan itself louder though as the sound resonance in the tubes is greater and sound more easily carries in from outside.weapping in rockwool won't stop that. Yes more air flow but not worth it in my experience.
These fans need fusing down which I did via a spur with a 3a fuse, I didn’t realise that you could get a fused isolator. Live and learn. Great video
Did you have a fan with a timer if so how did you fuse both sw & permanent live
@@neiltrevatt Same question, The only fused triple pole isolator I've seen has only one fuse and won't fuse against both L & SL
@@Dr.Stackerdid you find out in the end? I’m due to install one soon
Fitted one of these manrose fans a couple of years ago and it's so much better than the small inline fan type as you say. My only regret is not upgrading the ducting at the same time to the insulated type. I'll have to get a handyman to do it now as access is so poor into my eaves. Good video and you've got +1 subscriber from me. Cheers
Excellent video, thanks for doing this. Though I'll be okay through having taken notes, a downloadable/printable wiring diagram would be so helpful for when I'm up in the loft etc, when you just want a printout to make sure you're doing it right.
Very made and edited video. Just what I needed to explain this type of install to my son, I bet he will listen to you far better than for me. Cheers. Time for a cold one.
I appreciate that! Show him and I hope it helps him too!
Thanks for showing this, I've got one to install completely and one to put an external vent on.
Glad I could help 😊
Just moved into a house with no extractor fan and will be following your video when I install my new one. Thanks for this, it's really informative and very well presented. +1 follower.
I fitted one of these Manrose fans around 6 years ago when installing a new bathroom, however I opted for a moisture detector to control the fan, fitted in the ceiling with a manual override, an excellent quality extractor fan, and is fully automated, the fan will run until the moisture in the bathroom has been removed before turning itself off.
I installed the Timer version of the Manrose fan over the shower and also have an always on version (set to lowest speed) in the main part of the bathroom. Did this late last year and we've had no issues with condesnation, mould or "lingering smells" :) Must admit I'm surprised at how quiet these fans are, no need for anti-vibration measures at all.
Is the fan rated for always on?
Thanks for the vid..... I've just had my new extractor fitted used solid tubing with a slight fall to the outside vent to drain any condensation to the outside, also added rubber grommets under the fan to minimise vibration, plus removed the flyscreen to prevent build up of fluff/dust and added a backdraught flap which keeps the bathroom draught-free especially in winter.
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Love your channel .
Easy to follow No BS .
those In line extractors look well better
Thanks 👍
Brilliant video! 👌🏻 Thanks for filming this, really clear instructions throughout and the demonstration board was perfect to help break it down! Managed to install a HIB Cyclone from scratch with zero issues 😊
Just a tip for the less powerful fans, with the duct work I would always recommend using solid ductwork as opposed to flexi. Better air flow, less resistance, less dirt and bacteria captured over time, Also undercut the door to allow make up air.
👍 thanks for sharing
Wow.. just wow.. I found this channel only today, watched about 10 videos so far.. Super useful and well explained.. Great work
Thanks and welcome
I just want to say thank you so much I was so confused and working in my bathroom right now and I don't know what to do thanks to you I want your video and I'm really happy because I have a brass 5 and I transfer to PVC thank you so much
Works quite loud....Great video!
i wish you lived near me . a good tradesman is hard to find. Love watching your videos 👍
Thanks, appreciate the support
I fitted one a few years ago, those fans are brilliant. The bathroom had mould when I bought it as the builders in 2005 fitted a pathetic mains fan in the ceiling nowhere near the shower and bodged the ducting and I swear it couldn't hold a sheet of toilet paper up because I tried it! The Manrose can hold a flattened toilet roll middle up! And instead of motor vibration the main noise is the rather more pleasant whoosh of airflow.
Absolutely 👍
Really good extractor, I put one in the shower room of my grandad annex. Gonna use the same for my new bathroom and en-suite.
I've installed one of these, but only after first buying the version without a timer - so be aware that that exists. It didn't even cross my mind that they wouldn't have a timer, thus didn't check the spec, like you wouldn't check the spec of a car to check it has a steering wheel! Screwfix brilliant as ever and exchanged it for the (more expensive) timer version. I've also turned mine down to the lowest power setting as thats fine, and it was surprisingly noisy on medium or high.
We just our roof done and install a roof vent tile. Made a big difference the air goes straight up and out. No fiddly bends like before for us.
Nice one 👍
No, don't turn the fan by the light switch, its noisy when you don't always need it and you're pumping expensive warm air outside.
The best way to turn the fan on IMO is to fit a flowmeter to the cold feed of the mixer shower. So, the fan only comes on when the shower is turned on and it tells you when the mixer is up to temperature as the fan only comes on when the mixer is pulling cold water.
I fitted this in my previous house and it worked well for 15 years. I'll be doing the same in my new house.
Great video. It would be nice to have a humidistat option with maybe a wireless humidistat possibly but I suppose this could also be possible with a bit of ingenuity.
This video is perfectly timed, I'm ripping out my ensuite and redoing the builders garbage effort (many things wrong including leaks) and I'm putting one of these fans in at the same time 👍
Glad I could help!
Ive got mine screwed loosely down on 4 layers of carpet underlay. Dampens the vibrations a treat.
Top video mate! Just what i was looking for! Might of been worth adding that the door for the bathroom should be cut back to allow air flow. But over all great video. I will be installing one of these in the summer.
I have the same fan but in the 150mm version. Smallish bathroom. Fan over the shower. 1.5m from bathroom to fan then 1.5m from fan to tile vent. Are these ment to clear steam instantly? Ours does clear it but takes a good 5 or so minutes after showering. I bought the 150mm version thinking it'll do it easily. I've also used insulated ducting. Any ideas 💁♂️
Just used the exact same fan for our bathroom, the performance is amazing. I used solid pipe from the fan out through the gable end, just because I worried about moisture pooling inside a long flexi pipe. I have a small drop on the solid pipe, so it's all downhill to the gable vent.
P.S. the electrics blow my mind, but luckily I have a brother in law who is a sparks who broke it down into simple instructions😂
Yeah if you’ve a long run it was probably the best way 👍. Nice work
What I would like advice on is where to source the outside vent with a one way flap that does not rattle in a wind??
I’ve just swapped an in ceiling style fan which just wasn’t clearing the bathroom of steam with 1 of these style in extractor fans. Doesn’t seem to have made much difference at all even though it’s got almost 3x airflow rate.
Whilst I was upgrading the fan I also used solid pipe from the intake vent in ceiling to the fan itself (flexi ducting from the fan exhaust out to the eaves vent as that’s difficult to get to)
You are legend. I have bought whole set from your link and set up my bathroom.
My question: how can I use SONOFF BASIC switch instead of 1 way switch ?
I really liked your easily digestible RUclips video!
Well done, Sir!
Thank you very much!
Is it possible to do the same set up but to also have a humidistat that triggers the fan as well as the light switch and overrun feature?
Great informative video thanks, one of my summer jobs fit loft lighting and a new shower fan and youve covered both in detail thanks so much.
Awesome, thank you!
Now I know the manual shows flexible ducting but.... Air ducting is always better when the inside of the duct is smooth. For such a short run I'd have been using 4" tube with an insulated wrapper. the rough surface in flexible ducting slows down the air travel, it causes turbulence and reduces the efficiencies of the fan. Perhaps not a problem for this install since it's a short run, but worth using a couple of lengths of tube between flexible angle joints. Cracking video, and I could feel your pain filming in that heat... 👍👍
I dont understand why the tube has to be insulated - isnt it just taking the air outside. What does the insulation achieve/
@@flyingwhiteindian In the winter if the duct was not insulated it would get very cold and the steam would condensate in the duct before getting outside which is not desirable.
@@flyingwhiteindian Condensation forms and runs back inside. You can get traps to take this away but it's not usually practical.
what air ducting would you recommend??
Brilliant update. My question is that my Manrose fan goes up to the roof into a platsic tile vent, rather than a vent in the soffit.
Was like that when I moved in.
So is the roof vent better than the soffit vent?
Would you be able to hear it in the bedrooms? Or any vibrations?
Great job done, I know what it’s like working in a loft with loft insulation. Many thanks for the detailed video.
Thanks. It’s tough especially with a camera 😆
"inshulation" this vid was really helpful thanks!!
Glad it helped!
Does the internal part of the vent, the part you insert into the ceiling at 2:20, come with the extractor? Thanks!
With a tile vent in the roof above the bathroom ceiling what is the best way to have the ducting since it will in effect slope upwards to exit as opposed to down like in the soffit example in the video?
Great video, but one little thing worth mentioning is that any electrical requirement in the installation instructions for any accessory need to be adhered to in order for the installation to be compliant with wiring regulations, and most of these shower fans call for 3A fusing on both the permanent and live cores - so the usual 6A MCB for the lighting radial isn't sufficient for compliance. I usually install a separate single backbox next to the isolator with a 2-way grid plate containing two fuse holders fitted with 3A fuses. It's an added expense and arguably overkill, but technically needs to be done in order to make the installation 100% compliant.
That seems like a lot of wires and 3x back boxes (inc the light switch). Could you instead have a 3a fused DP FCU somewhere in the loft next to the fan? Thanks
Is it better to have the vent over the shower area we put an inline in to replace the ceiling fan but still getting mould patches but only in the shower area unfortunately room doesn’t have external window
Great video. One question I got. Has the isolator switch got the 3amp? “The installation must have an omnipolar switch with a contact separation of at least 3mm. The circuit must be protected by either a 3 Amp fuse or suitable 3А МСВ.”
Great video! The explanation of the wiring was fantastically clear. Top marks!
Glad you liked it! Thanks
Good to see you using insulated ducting
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What is the purpose of the insulated ducting over normal flexible plastic ducting? Thanks
Condensation
Hi, just fitted the same fan in our loft but the timer doesn’t work(the fan stops when I turn the light off) I’m sure the wirings right just wondered if you had any ideas? Keep up the good work, really appreciate your videos 👍
Great Vid!! Did the same and also included a Back Draught Shutter
Hi mate - I need to replace an existing fan that has an led light. The fan has totally died after 14 years. Can I get away without changing the external
Vent on the outside roof?
Any recommendations for ventilation in a downstairs shower / toilet room without any direct access to the external wall - it’s adjusting a neighbouring property?
Thank you very much man you have me so much I have a brass pipe I transfer to pvc I was kind of confused and I know what to do I was watching too many videos and you are the only one number one
very nice very nice way and clear of explanation of wiring fan thanks
We had the same setup fitted in our new en-suite recently, it’s outstanding and going to do the same in our new bathroom. Wiring it up is a bit confusing for me though, a job for the spark!
Definitely worth it 👍
Good video. I fitted one except the fan on the joist causes vibration. Tried mats and rubber under fan, no difference. Finally had to hang it from the rafters with chains. Fan sits on a board like a swing.
good video... i hope to know how to reduce or mitigate the noise and vibration arisen from the extract fan even though acoustic mat is placed below the fan?
thank you very much for this video this is something we need in our house as it doesn`t have an extractor in our bathroom. i will need an electriction though as i`m not competant enough to do the electrical work. a very good video. thank you.
Glad to help. Definitely give an electrician a shout 😊
@@TheDIYGuy1 I will and costing out the parts isn`t that much. once again thanks
Hi just wondering can you advise what you should do with the permanent live if you have an extractor that doesn’t have a timer …. I’ve replaced a broken timer extractor for one without but now it’s constantly on the bathroom switch doesn’t turn it off?
5:57 anybody knows what type of condensation trap is needed
Hi mate great video. I would like to wire the fan to a separate switch rather than to a light. Would it just be like the wiring to the isolator? Cheers. John.
Hi mate if I have 2 en-suites and one main bathroom can I connect this to 3 bathroom switches ?
Great job 👍🏻 helpful wiring diagram, reminds me of your older wiring videos 👌🏻
Thanks as always 😊
I’ve just replaced our manrose MF100T after 7 years of use (it died gradually getting slower and slower and yes it was cleaned annually). They are great, quiet extractors, however, having tried all sorts of ducting the wind noise in our small ensuite is very loud. I would be interested in any advice to limit this noise, my 2 thoughts are:
1. Fit a different inlet grill in the ensuit, maybe a different design may cut down the wind noise?
2. Set the fan speed to med or low? However I love the volume of air this thing sucks out on high speed, it almost closes the door! 🤣
Grateful for any advice please…..👍
Hi. What ducting would you use if the run was approx 5m and going out the gable.
Cheers
Does it need to be insulated ducting the lads who installed mine used standard. Also they just seemed to put it into soffit without putting in a vent. Seems like moisture level in attic has got worse since...
Yes it should be insulated. No vent is lazy. Might not be tight on the fan if loft is getting wet
Hi great video once again I have the same in-line fan can you tell me where you got the inside ceiling vent from so I can get mine fitted the ones I have seen need screwing right on the edge of the hole and don’t have much length for the ducting to fix to many thanks .
I have an isolator pull cord for my electric shower is it legal to use that for power?
Just installed this same setup today, thanks to your tutorial. Gave me all the confidence I needed. Thanks 👍
Doesn’t there have to be a three amp fuse protecting it? I thought I saw it in instruction leaflet on my one.
Really well explained and great video . Top job mate
I had one of these installed when I had my soffits replaced a few years ago so went in through the roof tiles but mine has never worked so well? any idea why? It's installed exactly how you have done it. I took the additional step of adding sound insulation/vibration mat and then screwing it onto the wood so its even quieter.
Need a little advice please?!! Is it easy / ok to hook the Manrose up to an pully switch for an old shower which is still live please?
That Electrical guide was excellent. Thanks
Would having the vent above the shower not cause a cold draft coming down when showering , say if you don't put the lights on in winter? Would being slightly further from where you stand be better?
How to stop all the steam from finding it's way back under the soffit though? Unless the fan can blow it five meters away?
Hi mate, i`ve a mixer unit, can I take a feed off of this to power the fan so that the fan comes on when the shower is activated.?
Thanks
J
I'm analising the possibilty of adding one of these on a kitchen floor with a 150 mm tube going up to a kitchen island balcony. Do you think it would work upside down? sucking the fumes from cooking straight to the floor and outside my house, maximum 1 meter distance tube?
The Manrose MF100T instructions state it must be fitted to a circuit with a 3A fuse. 18th edition states manufacturer's instructions are taken into account for electrical installation.
I use a double pole fused spur as the isolator with a 3A fuse fitted and a double pole light switch so the lighting circuit and extractor circuit are switched separately when installing these.
Good idea! No need for the fan to always come on when you're just popping in for a quick pee!
@@jayseabie215 for that you'd probably want to fit a humidistat
Click make a fan switch that has a 3amp fuse built in, the vast majority of fans will require a 3amp fuse, there are not many on the market that don't
Always better to have a seperate fused spur for fan, hate it integrated with and dependent on light switch
@@bertbox69 personally I am not keen on timed fans, if you want a shower or bath in the daytime you either have to have the lights on or flick the lights on or off, a separate on off switch is best.
Is there a cover with a built in led light along with the exhaust
I have this fan. The grey ceramic resistor next to the wires gets incredibly hot! Is this normal?
Fitted the same model before and it works great. But just fitted one in my own home and its not working properly.theres about a metre of duct either side of the fan. It sucks a tissue up from about 2" away. And its set on high. Any suggestions? Thx