Young Earth creationism - Destiny debates Kent Hovind
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2019
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Destiny aged 4.5 billion years in this debate.
He didn't account for the moon
Lol
I don't know why I suffered through all the idiotic ramblings... (Kent) oh, right - only so I could hear Destiny refute the BS with reasoned and logical thoughts and questions. This Destiny character appears to have his poop together. I would have bruises on my forehead were I the one debating this moron. (yes, Kent)
We should carbon date him lol
@Joseph he's referring to carbon dating Kent because we ain't sure how many billions of years old is he
Kent's mic sounds like it was created the day Jesus was crucified.
cmon man, be more realistic. it was at least 3 months after that.
Lmao. You could carbon date his mic and it would be over 6000 year old.
Maybe he dragged it out of prison
We need to get it carbon dated
I think he has a great mic, it's just he has that 1985 cassette tape voice.
Destiny "I need an argument beyond just 'the Bible says so'"
Kent "genesis 1"
Truly a mastermind of unprecedented genius
Non of the science convinces you the Earth is less than "billion" years old? Typicall dumbazz.
and he gave it.....
Apparently you slept through 99.9% of the debate.
@MusicGoodies- where did he give it? Beyond him not understanding basic ass geology.
@@donnieward6287 Why don't you "actually" watch the video.... Stay out of using your closed mind and you'll find it.
"I've read the bible for 50 years, and I haven't found any contradictions"
Wow
Can you point one out?
@@anonymous3174 Basically all of Genesis 8.
Genesis 8:4 says "And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat." but the next sentence, Genesis 8:5 says the mountains weren't even visible until the 10th month- "And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen."
Genesis 8:13 says that "in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth" but Genesis 8:14 says it wasn't until "the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried."
@@anonymous3174you’re obviously not familiar with the Bible.
I read it one time, as the Coran or the Torah, and in each of these fairy tales books, you can find many, many, many mistakes (historics, scientifics, etc, etc...) they are only fairy tales books written by people 2000 years ago (who know nothing) , books who are now still dramatically believed by credulous or just dumb people. But let's go, still believe in your 2000 years ago Harry Potter....
Sorry for my poor English, it is not my mother tongue.
@@anonymous3174so when Noah’s ark was created and the flood happened did it cover all the land on earth. I would also like to point out that the tallest point on earth is over 29,000 feet which means in 40 days and nights it would need to rain 340 inches an hour. I don’t think that would make sense.
Chat killed me with the "He thinks 6000 years old is old when Lolis are at least 12000" you win this one chat
Timestamp that's fucking hilarious
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Okay, I'm stupid. I don't get it.
Lolis are degenerate, onee-sans 4 lyfe. Oppai 4 lyfe!
@Sean Charles dd/lg, to which you're referring, is essentially based around ageplay. Girls identify as little, or having a little side, in those relationships. They enjoy/feel safe having a 'little space'. It can be a non-sexual thing, sexual, or both. It's quite strange. As you mentioned guys can be similar, sometimes referred to as infantalism. As long as such a relationship is between two consenting adults, or two older adolescents, I don't really take issue with it. So long as you're not doing anything to promote actual adult-child relationships.
The age of consent in Japan is 13 and we shouldn't ignore that. Rather than simply being ethnocentric, we must demonstrate why the age of consent should be everywhere what it is in our respective countries.
I'm unsure whether you're referring to real children or drawings in the last part.
If it's loli I am unconvinced. If you can demonstrate that loli encourages/influences minor attracted people into offending, which I'm not saying you couldn't, I could agree. In a vaccum I don't take issue with it, because the whole reason why we're bothered about child abuse is because children are hurt, and adults involved in those scenarios being 'disgusting' is a subjective value assessment most of us make that follows that. Someone can be 'disgusting' for looking at loli, but *if it doesn't harm or contribute to the harm of real children*, then I don't know that it carries moral weight.
It would be quite difficult to snuff them out.
If evolution is real, how come Sargon hasn't evolved anti-Milkshake defenses.
Checkmate atheists
Not enough brotein supplements
He invested all of his evolutionary capital into developing resistance towards Soy-milk
that only happens after 10 milkshake attacks, DUH.
When god was handing out brains Sargon mistakenly thought they were milkshakes so he asked for his extra thick and smooth.
Hats off to the moderator! She was super professional
The opponent to Destiny speaks so arrogantly it’s ridiculous
Kent is the perfect personification of religion; his jokes and arguments haven't changed since he formed them.
I watched this guy vs aaron or matt more recently , literaly is exact same talking points and jabs
Hovind is so intellectually dishonest, even for a Christian apologist.
Kent is actually a very poor representative of religion.
True. They're timeless and enduring.
What channel is this debate platform? I can’t figure it out!
"If atheism is a religion than not collecting stamps is a hobby."
- NonStampCollector
*then
@@TheTheawesomeguy35 *thæn
@@TheTheawesomeguy35 th”stfu”n
AHAHA, ok that made me laugh.
who is claiming that atheism is a religion?
TL;DW The Universe is 6000 years old because the moon is 1 billion years old
More specifically, the universe is 6000 years old because there was once a study published that explained why the inverse square equation (which by itself would date the moon to 1byo) doesn't account for the entirety of the moon's orbital mechanics. Oh, and because we've found some objects that are less than 6000 years old.
@@longlivenc7235 but it may not be as old as the scientific community says, so checkmate, science can get fucked.
Soo, the moon is.....God?
@@PredominateOne you're a Pepega "science can get fucked" what are you a loonie
@@viktorvaughn6565 pretty sure it's a meme dude
Just a reminder that Kent was convicted of domestic violence in 2021.
He's been involved in far worse than that. Not convicted, but he knowingly shelters pedophiles at his theme park, has that at least one kid go missing and another died there. Kent went on the record to say something along the lines of "But other than that the family had a wonderful time and are looking forward to coming back again!" There's a clip of him saying that if they're so upset about their kid dying they can just make another one also. He uses his "I've been in three hundred debates!" (and lost them all) lines to advertise his compound. I'm fairly sure that YT shut down his channel because of that, though that's honestly only a guess. It went offline shortly after the "This guy uses RUclips to advertise his highly suspect cult to children" was pointed out, but he's had his channel frozen at least once before this. As fun as it is to see him fail hard, he's actually quite dangerous to the people that follow him.
Yeah I saw a couple videos going into his business which really makes me despise him, beyond the stupidity and dishonesty of his young earth rubbish
@@steventhompson399 I found just yesterday he's back on RUclips on someone else's channel and is saying the same BS again and advertising his "theme park" again. Circumventing a ban. Not great. Hoping YT staff whack that on the head again. Using YT to advertise that place is not something Google should want to have happen. Imagine the fallout if another kid dies.
Kent sprinted when that question about his thesis came up 💀🤣
Kent: "If someone says the earth is billions of years old, they are callling Jesus a lier"
Best self-own of all time
@Michael Fritsche More religions have been lost to time and forgotten than currently exist. Who knows, maybe one of them was actually literally true?
@Michael Fritsche got any evidence of that?
@McDonald's Lol okay. Prove that there is not a deity who's whole deal is making sure that gravity exists and works consistently.
[EDITED] wording
@Michael Fritsche The fact that all the gods you know of don't exist does not prove that no god exists.
@McDonald's The person making the claim bears the burden of proof: I don't claim that any god does exist, but you are claiming that no god does. Prove it
this man was turned down for debate more times than the years the earth has existed
OMEGALUL
Aidon Goatte Whenever I say a shit joke and get pity laughs, they’re giving me betaluls
Destiny is not a good guy to have this kind of debates. He got sucker punched with inverse square law despite the fact that hovind dissproved himself with it.
Destiny lacks scientific accumen to really fight this kind of gotcha guys
I don’t think it matters how much scientific knowledge destiny has. What matters is how well he handles questions like this. He could be honest and say I don’t know enough about that to give you any real answer other than attempting to pick holes innit on the spot. Or he could have stopped the debate to look up the problem.
@@ImDougDimmadome ΩLUL
01:31 Kent Hovind
03:14 Point of Order
04:15 The Age of the Earth Is There Evidence for a Youn...
06:04 How Old Is the Earth
11:18 The Age of the Earth
13:14 Five Minute Rebuttal
16:38 Jupiter and Saturn
23:38 Moon
23:50 Different Kinds of Tides on the Earth
24:08 The Inverse Square Law
28:33 The Earth Is Slowing Down in Its Spin
40:36 Carbon Dating
44:23 There Was Water above the Firmament
46:19 The History of the Geologic Column
48:59 The Lunar Recession Problem
54:58 Q&a
57:13 Does the Second Law of Thermodynamics Apply to…
57:26 Second Law of Thermodynamics
01:07:54 Could a Dog Eventually Grow Wings and Be Able T._
01:11:34 The Sahara Desert
01:20:27 Population Growth Chart
01:20:44 United Nations Population Chart
01:24:22 Dinosaurs
01:25:12 About Dinosaurs and the Bible
01:30:20 How Do We Carbon Date a Freshly Killed Seal
One of the most enjoyable debates ever, mainly because both Kent and Stephan sat quietly and waited for their turn to speak.
Okay🙄
Did this man just call evolution a fairytale for grownups...
while defending the bible?
Lol, he also calls it "a dangerous religion".
@@Thedamped Kent Hovind has to be trolling. He's iconic ironic!
While STILL giving NO evidence for how or why we know a GOD exists.
@Gabriel F Don't really follow your comment. Do you mean to say that Kent did give evidence for God's existence, but it was simply denied?
If so, would you kindly furnish an example?
@Gabriel F at what point did he give evidence for a god? The only attempt I heard was (and I'm paraphrasing) "existence is too complicated for someone/something to not have built it."
One that's extremely subjective. Two that is not evidence. That's the same as someone who know doesn't know shit about nature and saying "wow the tree is so complicated, someone must have made it."
Kent: "you guys are desperate to have a 4.5 billion year earth" The amount of projection in that statement is palpable.
He desperately wishes the bible were true so he can avoid death. I think that this is a major subconscious motivation for most theists: they just don't want to accept that death is almost certainly the end. They are willing to believe nonsense as long as they get an afterlife.
@Michael Whitewolf stop lying dude theism has very little credibility
@Michael Whitewolf dude just say mood or culture stop trying to use obscure words you come across as pretentious. And not really the only evidence is a book written by man in its naivety that contradicts itself multiple times about God the most evil being in existence. Zero credibility! You say most of us can't do the tests etc anyone can you think scientists hide their methods? If that was true no scientist would have credibility but they do just because you can't be bothered to learn the methods/not intelligent enough whatever the reason that's on you
@Michael Whitewolf ps. Incase you ask how God is the most evil being. According to monotheism God created everything in that case he created all the evils the diseases, Satan, war, old age, murderers, rapists etc all created by God all created to be what they are!
God the most evil fictional being in existence
Edit. I forgot to mention his demands of worship or eternal pain and torture! The Bible like the torah and Koran was written to subjugate mankind
@Michael Whitewolf right I don't really care you haven't made any points to be valid in the 1st place use whatever words you wish I'm well educated I was schooled in England not dumb fuck alabama tech whatever you call it and in most cases theories need to be backed up yet not 1 shred of any evidence for it therefore completely unprovable.
But the evidence against it is way too high to ignore I don't list to other points I make my own BOY!
“If man was here for millions of years then why isn’t the population higher” I think the answer to this one is, I don’t know, the BUBONIC PLAGUE
population is high
also, we haven't had agriculture for very long.
He doesn't know the difference between exponential and linear growth (or speed).
Ice ages limiting the amount of fertile ground available.
Sadly that isnt the dumbest thing he's said
I am surprized steve didn't just tell him at the beginning: well the "only one argument is enough" works both ways, if we find one argument that earth is older than 6000, than you are wrong.
Distiny low key playing video games while debating lol
I think he wrote down notes
Doubtful. Usually in these debates he’s writing notes and getting cancer from bad arguments.
@@Southboundpachyderm i was joking
@@cokerockstop2 I'm sorry. It's really hard to read context into comments. I didn't mean it in any kind of negative way if that helps.
P00NM45T3RFL3XXX no offense, but you’re really forcing that vocabulary. That “doubtful” stuff. Idk you and it’s obvious that it doesn’t fit you. You don’t have to change the way you speak to be intelligent.. cause it’s kinda cringe. Makes you look like a robot dude lol
“What was Kent’s PhD thesis and where can I find it”
Lol I absolutely lost it
you can read it online, it is dreadful
lmao you can tell he was so embarassed by that question
Well, in case you stillwanted to know, he got his masters and phD (In Christian Education, no less) from an unaccredited school called "Patriot Bible University".
@@divineapelord3714 I hate and don't trust so many words in that comment.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Why? Because it challenges your faith in Kent.
55:30 lmao. Exposed! That's because Kent has lied over the years and has no doctorates. I love it. Watching him squirm.
also funny how he tried to write it off as "off-topic" despite talking about evolution all the time, which also isnt on the topic of the age of the earth lmao.
All jokes aside, I think it’s cute that he brought a monitor w/ slides to this debate
Destiny: Explains something very calmly
Kent: "I think i struck a nerve. Calm down"
it him trying to take the high ground because he knows he cant make a good point
@@deepergodeeper7618
I started to lose count at how many times Kent said that Steven needed to get his money back for his education, because he’s been duped heheh.
We learn the approximate age of the earth in grade school, and the overwhelming mass majority of us went to public grade school. Why is Kent worried about us getting our school taxes put back into the government coffers when he doesn’t even contribute to said coffers? Lol. He didn’t get his money wasted. 😂
self projection at its finest haha
😂
Dude I actually like destiny but he isn't known for his calmness.
Kent: "Some muslims may believe Allah was a prophet"
Muhammad: "Am I a joke to you?"
Muslims do believe that Jesus was a prophet
Muhammad... Oh he is such a joke
@@mcawserviceslaurel5315 Jesus.....the dumb dog
Yes, Mohammed is a joke to us.
A Muslim cant be a Muslim if he does not love and believe that Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (PBUH) are prophets and messengers .
What’s funny is that about three years after this debate, scientists discovered that the moon is likely actually 40 million years older than they previously expected and most scientists already believed it to be billions of years old.
Using Kent's logic: The water in my backyard pool has warmed up from 69 degrees at 1pm to 70 degrees at 2pm. Therefore it has increased at a rate of one degree per hour and this proves that 100 hours ago the temperature of the water was -30 degrees.
Destiny was degraded via the second law of thermodynamics in this debate
even more so because of the inverse square law
@AllGTG because he could actively look up the shit Kent was using as an argument
x
Destiny got Created in this debate.
btw did you know bible teaches thermodynamics lol
@@EnigmazGuide really?
Am I high, or this guy is really trying to prove, that bible is correct, using only evidence from the bible???
Kent mostly gives personal opinion in an attempt to disprove verifiable scientific evidence
That can work. For example, if you give very accurate prophecies or explain stuff scientifically accurate before humans were able to. But the Bible doesn't do that.
It’s that circular fuzzy logic that is the basis of all fundamentalist xtian arguments. And with that logic any leader or government can fully justify: slavery, eugenics, any other form of mass murder or crime on a massive scale. The worst IMHO is the indoctrination of their own children.
What we are really talking about is a living organism... composed of generations of self spreading mental illness that has figuratively became alive.
I am not the first guy to suggest this thesis. Psychology life in the form of any cult is fairly easy to understand if one possesses even an average IQ.
It’s sad cuz there is some holes in the theory of evolution that this guy could adress. Instead he just reads from the Bible. He can’t comprehend someone viewing life thru a different lense then his own
@@reeferrotrandy458 even sadder is that it is not his lens as your analogy (Pun Fully Intended) so aptly portrays, it is the one someone likely guilted/shamed/ instilled by fear into him when he was less than 5 years old.
IMO all cults are evil waving a big “I’m good” flag. The most reprehensible are the ones that teach children to fear god and thus fear and hate themselves and the Great I Am that is in them. The Great I Am that most parents immediately begin tearing down after a soul is born.
Kent is a master of "I don't understand it, therefore it can't be true."
Every kent hovind debate should be called, “How to show people that you dont understand science without knowing it.”
Destiny evolved from a primate in this debate.
fyi we are still primates you stupid fuck...
Destiny got told by a Fossil that his carbon dating doesn't work.
Bofa Sofa FYI destiny didn’t evolve during the debate either so picking out the primate part is pretty fucking stupid
My pacifier got taken away in this debate.
@@bofasofa9399 HoW dO yOu KnOw?
Last time a Christian got wrecked this bad, Nero was emperor.
Nero isn't a real name. Checkmate atheist.
@AllGTG It hasn't changed because he refuses to acknowledge anything that may refute his absurd point of view. My stance on the morality of dropkicking babies hasn't changed so I must be right, regardless of stance.
He was all over the place in terms of classification and scientific "research". For example, Destiny brought up how the moon may have had a starting angular velocity that would allow it escape a stronger gravitational pull, thus rendering the square cube law argument irrelevant. Instead of tackling the proposal he just assumes it to be true, referencing the Bible. I could reference myself on the moral validity of dropkicking babies and that wouldn't be accepted in court.
He showed a blatant misunderstanding of the scientific method and even basic highschool pysichs he supposedly taught for years. His entire argument can be summarized as lets take X false premise and derive Y false conclusion from it. Destiny's mistake was trying to argue theoreticals under those premises.
@AllGTG It's supposed to show how not changing stances is an indication of refusal to adapt and not to being correct.
Melina Hristova leave Nero out of this
AllGTG Holy shit you’re stupid, I feel really bad for you. You literally proved his point for him by refusing to read any of his comment past the dropkicking babies part. rofl
Coming back to this after finding out he assaulted his wife and was imprisoned for tax fraud makes this so much funnier LOL
What’s funny is seeing this as proof nothing he says is relevant. A lot of credible atheists are frauds rapists murderers. Etc that dosent make what they said less credible. It just makes them as a person less respected and very very messed up.
Fast forward to present day: Kent's being looked at for aiding and abeting a child molester. So Christian.
WHAT 😂😂😂
"God" told Kent to do that... 😂
LMFAO
This dude learned like 5 math equations and decided "yup these are all the math equations i need to describe the cosmo" and just forces his reality to fit into them. And any that doesnt, the bible fills it in for him.
You can tell this is old because when the dude said “Among Us”, chat didn’t seizure
You can also tell because Kent Hovid isn’t in prison. 😂
@@kaiza6467 hes in jail now? What happened?
@@boopdeeb9444 pulled this from wikipedia so
Hovind was arrested in Alabama on July 30, 2021, for throwing his estranged wife, Cindi Lincoln, to the ground in August 2020. Additionally, she petitioned for a protective order in Conecuh County, Alabama, saying that she had to go to the emergency room after being "bodyslammed".. She has also stated that she had been threatened by one of Hovind's associates.[185][186][187] Hovind was tried on September 20 and found guilty of domestic violence.
Throwing some support for Shannon in the comments. She moderated fine and Kent was rude.
She clearly had a bias and had to be put back into place by the other moderator. Kent was rude at points tho
fishsticks428
Yea, her bias is the same as mine, we both can’t stand intentional dishonesty by dodging questions! He knows when and where he’s being dishonest about the data. He’s a fucking conspiracy nutter, with a case of criminally insane brain.
Who is Shannon?
Stephen Sehrbrock
ShannonQ, youtuber
@@stephensehrbrock5613 She was the woman you can hear in the video.
Kent Hovin logic: "So this makes it impossible for creation to be older than 6,000 years...." - Proceeds to point at a galaxy that took the light from there tens of millions of years to reach us 😂
As far as I’m concerned, Kent won the debate the moment he said “you’d better get ready for your death and destiny, Destiny” 😎
*clears throat* CRINGE
He also doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. A lot of his scientific talking points were way off.
Nah, it was the 10th time he said that "you don't have enough time to turn that frog into a prince"
This was so cringe
That was so fuckinh sick
Destiny scuba dived for pirate coins in this debate.
Good
He has to give simple examples to be understandable for the dumb evolutionist
Out of all the memes, this one made me spit out my fucking drink
@@gymunit1 Coin analogy was wrong since you have to set a bound on the age of the Earth by the _oldest_ coin, not the _newest_ . The creationist is the dumb one here.
@@gymunit1 The newest coin suggests the ship couldn't have sank before that date... But the oldest coin suggests that there were coins minted at least back at that date.
So, a rock containing newly formed materials could mean the rock itself is recently formed. But may also contain older materials that suggest the rock was formed by some older stuff that had to exist to be part of this rock... The analogy would support taking the oldest materials in order to the date the Earth and the universe.
This biggest issue with Kent's boat analogy is the question, we aren't asking when the boat sank but when the boat was originally build. Assuming none of the coins are also than the boat itself, (as most things we use to find Earth's age aren't older than earth itself) then you would go by the oldest coin
Not that I agree with him, but i think he was trying to use the fact that he thought the moon could be no older than 1 billion to say that the earth would be 1 billion and then he was gonna say more stuff that "limits" the earth's age and that's how he was gonna use the analogy. Still doesn't make sense though.
I've seen many creationism debates but watching one with a chat is a completely different experience.
My favorite meme "argument" in favor of a divine creator has got to be "this world is just too complicated". Like you people honestly think just because you, a mortal being, can't comprehend this vastness of the universe means a sky wizard had to come up with it?
God of the gaps
He said the simple answer is God and that's when I knew this guy's beliefs weren't based on finding the truth but what was most convenient
Not to mention the argument that it's too complicated supports atheism lol, you'd think a being with all power would just make things super simple and basic to avoid confusion and lessen or completely prevent terrible things like diseases, unless his argument is that the devil also has put things on this Earth like bad germs and stuff lmao.
Clayton Smith but God is all-powerful so he allowed the devil to do it - what a prick!
every argument for god is usually a God of the gaps argument
"Science hasn't explained literally everything with perfectly infallible data, therefore God."
Welcome to the argument from ignorance. A classic.
@M A Therefore, it is impossible to go anywhere in discussions with them. There's no point in continuing the discussions with them because of this.
Kent Hovind failed to falsify the evolutionary God in this debate
This guy thinks that you can just take a snapshot of current scientific knowledge and say that's all we know and could possibly ever know.
More Like Science says the earth can't be as old as people say it is, and therefore I am going to believe God.
Holy cow, when Destiny dropped the bomb that the thing that Kent kept going on about for the entire video was a misrepresentation of their paper I nearly died lol.
And then Kent drastically looks through his power point to mis prove it 😂
Hey destiny! Ask to see his ankle monitor.
Ouch! 😆😆😆
Destiny:”I find it strange that with the invention of smartphones sightings of the loch ness monster have significantly decreased.”
Kent:”maybe it died.”
Now this is the content I subbed for
I fell on the floor when he said that
Timestamp please!
Lol
Idiots with a platform 🙄
I'm so sick of these harmful idiots spreading their poison.
@@iconoclastvii They are holding us back.
"Currently it's 4.5 billion years, next week it'll be more, the time always goes up"...
Yes Kent. Indeed you've done it. You've discovered that the age of the universe increases as more time passes. Congrats.
Wait... Does he mean... Time flows... In one direction? WOOOOOOOOOW! Kent is a genius!
Kent is moving at the speed of light
Yea guys! Doesn't he understands that the earth every year ages from 1year to a billion . Its like dogs years just this year might be 200mil next year 500mill you never know that's why i love evolution couse its like poker 😂🤣😅
@@karoliskarolis5514 Incredible. It's almost as if early science, before better instruments and understanding were available, was incapable of making accurate investigations into the Earth's age, and then as we get better and better tech and theory we acquire increasingly accurate assessments, with each successive improvement yielding a smaller and smaller modification to the previously held knowledge. Except, that would imply that science was getting ever closer to the correct age of the universe, in the range of billions of years...oops.
In earliest stages of exploration into the age of the universe, the LOWEST scientific estimate for the age of the Earth was about 75,000 years old, based on a rather unreliable experiment based on making a small globe to simulate Earth and measuring it's rate of cooling. That still means that in 1779 science was pretty sure the Earth was much older than 6000 years old as claimed by Young Earth Creationists. By 1907, two independent studies, one based on the geology of the Earth's convective mantle and thin crust and one based on early radiometric dating, agreed that the Earth was likely billions of years old (John Perry in 1895, and Bertram B. Boltward in 1907). And in 1956, we got an estimate from Clair Cameron Patterson based on far more modern radiometric dating which showed that the age of the Earth was about 4.55 billion years old, with a 1.5% margin for error.
And in the 64 years since then? We haven't strayed far from that estimate at all. Currently, the US National Park Service lists the best measure of the age of the Earth at about 4.6 billion years old. The most recent citation on the website is from 2001. So for at least 19 years, but almost certainly for at least 64 years, the age of the Earth has been unchanged and undisputed within science. In comparison, different Young Earth Creationist theories pit the age of the Earth within 6000 and 10,000 years old, leaving a whopping plus-or-minus 25% margin for error. Sounds to me more like the creationists are playing poker than the scientists.
P.S. The age of the Earth has not been calculated based on discovered life or fossils in any way, and so the age of the Earth is not at all connected to the theory of evolution.
@@iandougherty215 One assumption is that the global levels of carbon 14 (also called radiocarbon) in the atmosphere has not changed over time. The other assumption is the corollary of the first; the biosphere has the same overall concentration of radiocarbon as the atmosphere due to equilibrium.noun
a state in which opposing forces or influences are balanced.
"the maintenance of social equilibrium"
But carbon-14 dating won't work on dinosaur bones. The half-life of carbon-14 is only 5,730 years, so carbon-14 dating is only effective on samples that are less than 50,000 years old. ... To determine the ages of these specimens, scientists need an isotope with a very long half-life.When scientists (specifically, Ralph Keeling's father) first started measuring atmospheric CO2 consistently in 1958, at the pristine Mauna Loa mountaintop observatory in Hawaii, the CO2 level stood at 316 parts per million (ppm).
Mar 2, 2016 · Atmospheric carbon-14 measurements reveal natural production rate by cosmic rays. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory researchers have measured the carbon-14 isotope (14C) produced by cosmic rays in the stratosphere and found its production rate is less than most previous estimates.
The first geologic time scale that included absolute dates was published in 1913 by the British geologist Arthur Holmes. He greatly furthered the newly created discipline of geochronology and published the world-renowned book The Age of the Earth in which he estimated Earth's age to be at least 1.6 billion years.In 1946, Willard Libby proposed an innovative method for dating organic materials by measuring their content of carbon-14, a newly discovered radioactive isotope of carbon. Known as radiocarbon dating, this method provides objective age estimates for carbon-based objects that originated from living organisms.
Relative dating is used to determine a fossils approximate age by comparing it to similar rocks and fossils of known ages. Absolute dating is used to determine a precise age of a fossil by using radiometric dating to measure the decay of isotopes, either within the fossil or more often the rocks associated with it.
Relative time ("chronostratic") -- subdivisions of the Earth's geology in a specific order based upon relative age relationships (most commonly, vertical/stratigraphic position). ... These subdivisions are given names, most of which can be recognized globally, usually on the basis of fossils.
Your theory is a widely accepted hoax.
the·o·ry
/ˈTHirē/
noun
a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
"Darwin's theory of evolution"
"I taught and science and math for 15 years" was somehow relevant to the topic but being asked what his thesis was for his phd somehow was not lol. What a clown.
Ken's comparison to a sunk ship and looking for the newest coin would be a fair one... if they were debating when the Earth ended.
This mad mans opening statement was hilarious.
My fucking God hahhaha, it's amazing how these people are actually real
Bullionsufyehsold! Don't want to Ad-hom any debater but the way he said it is stuck in my head
@@heavenlysadness That's the point, he's constructed his intro to stick in your head after the debate. While Kent spews a lot of bullshit, he's a wonderful bullshit artist, a real confidence artist.
"the Bible says the earth is 6k years old. If you disagree you're calling God a liar and I'm going to tell on you".
@@ToxicAudri This is the same bullshit argument people use about Trump. It's not talent, they're just stupid enough to make other stupid people relate to them. Nothing he's saying sounds remotely convincing. It's memorable because of how ridiculous it is, which isn't a good thing by any decent measure.
I'd like to point out that this guy is a teacher. He teaches kids.
Frightening
That's the thing he only teaches kids that unfortunately have parents with the same beliefs and probably attend his church not to mention the 10 year prison sentence for I believe tax fraud
teachers have to follow curriculum not their beliefs
He teaches in christian schools. Fuck em I guess
@@cryterion7770 already too brainwashed
kent beat his wife
Weirdo fundamentalist Bible thumpers usually do
We've never seen a star form? Is Kent saying that the story of the wise men seeing his star in the east is a lie?
I watched this when it first aired and holy shit. This guy basically clings to one paper that was released by two guys and it doesn't even say what he wants it to say. It's two hours of this guy misrepresenting a paper and saying "if there is one issue with the consensus of 4.45 billion years, then obviously the earth is 6000 years old." Fucking kill me now
@Sally Vee yes he does. He says multiple times that kent has yet to provide any evidence for his 6000 years claim
Oh man, when Shannon got shot down just trying to get him to admit it around 1:10:00 I was like DAMN
I looked it up he has a doctorate in Christian education. as a Christian even I know that's a fucking joke and a half
And that type of argument he is making isn't even scientific. For example, if there is one piece of evidence wildly out of sync with everything else then the scientific thing to do is to try to understand other circumstances that evidence might arise.
The moon is moving away at a certain rate means that it would have been close less than a billion years ago. Ok how else could the moon have achieved its particular orbit in this way since everything else we know about the world says is 4.5 billion years old.
James
Holy shit Kent Hovind’s coin in the box argument is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
The age of the coin is evidence that the Earth can’t be older than 6000 years? What is the correlation? It makes no sense. Lol
I would never be able to be so polite to a such a condescending fact-immune person.
I think the funniest part is when he said "People dont like god because they don't like hearing 'thou shalt not'" but our society's laws disallow WAY more negative behaviors than the laws in the Bible, the most obvious example being that we outlawed slavery where as the Bible not only explicitly allows it but has rules for it. Hell the Bible doesn't even disallow rape. Our secular society is infinitely more moral and just than his stupid book.
You are wrong. Slavery exists today as well. 90% of the people are not free. You work, have some spare time, sleep, and go to work again. Nowadays you have a car so you can work more, since you don't have to walk to work. 50% of your money is taken away immediately through tax, you pay rent and have a bit left for clothes and media(for you to be brainwashed to believe you are free).
@@brilliantbeaches5389 To be very clear that's not slavery. Under slavery you are literally the property of another person. You have absolutely no agency. Also 50% of your money is not taken from taxes, that's a ridiculous lie. The average person in the US has an effective tax rate below 15%. Stop spreading bullshit.
@@trollnerd You belong to the system now. What happens if you dont pay taxes? The US is not the only country in the world. But you are brainwashed to believe you are free, that makes you a great servant.
@@brilliantbeaches5389 Clearly you never experienced anything even remotely similar to slavery or you would not spew this bullshit. Nobody ever said that governments are saints who never exploit their people, there are a lot of dark things in this world. And even the "wealthy west" is not even close to being free from corruption, but that is how humanity always operated ever since we had a proper civilization. It is something we must strive to change, will it work or not only the future knows. But you have to be really ignorant to believe a modern person living in a semi sensible country is somehow a slave.
Yes, you do have to work. Guess why? Because if you don't, society (which also provides you with the food, water, healthcare and other things you need to survive by the way, and I didn't see you complaining about that, I wonder why?) will collapse, causing you to die along with it.
I don’t know why Destiny was paired with Kent for a debate. Their expertise are in completely different areas. This guy had slides specific scientific evidence for his side to reduce the age of the world and I didn’t see Destiny with any specific examples besides things he had heard in the past.
Yours is the first comment I've read (and i've scrolled quite a far way down) that seems to be intellectually honest about the debate. Every other comment just seems to be emotionally attached to their belief, so any evidence to the contrary is bogus, and silly. The man makes great points, and references science without misquoting it. Kudos to you for that.
Don't forget to pay your taxes Kent and avoid another 10 year jail sentence and while you're at it stop beating your wife!
Great wisdom and insight you have. Boy you must have a high iq.
Im a Christian and i find it disappointing of what he did. However, a Christian is a human who has the capability to do wrong.
That is why we confess. Everyday, we tell ourselves to repent of sin. We also tell this to other people on the faith. Even Paul acknowledged that he has committed the sins he hated during his ministry to preach the gospel.
@@cyphlone3306might be a skill issue but I’ve never beat my wife
@@whiscashofficial9325 it is a skill issue. What is your point here? (Respectfully asking)
The sequel to Destiny Vs Disingenuous Binder:
Destiny vs the Ignorant Powerpoint Presentation
Nice
This should have more upvotes, before Jesus comes back.
I’d amend that to “disingenuous PowerPoint presentation”. this guy knows exactly what he’s doing
They are learning... Evolving
From now on, I’m going to refer to the Bible as a “non-peer-reviewed book”
It was reviewed by pastors and they all agreed it was the word of God. If you disagree you arent a peer.
@@averywealthyman4194 I assume you dont have a kid. Did you know they lose their baby teeth as their skull gets bigger? How does nature plan ahead for things like that?
@RadioTSM {Operator Teddy Timis} oh I see. If one sees design, one just calls it the illusion of design in order to not consider the possibility of a designer.
@@averywealthyman4194 you write off the obviously designed systems as the "illusion of design". Your high priest scientists have all the answers that you repeat without question. Instead of saying you are not sure or do not know, you accept the unproven and just tell yourself your science hasn't fully explained it yet.
@RadioTSM {Operator Teddy Timis} Sounds like your hatred of God and or religion has clouded your ability to see all the options on how we might have gotten here. Actually a designer doesn't have to be God, it could be aliens or a simulation or many other possibilities so you referencing the bible does nothing to prove 1. evolution has real problems with credible evidence 2. that living systems appear to be designed.
He's done 169 debates and in all that time never upgraded his audio setup?
Who voted for a almost 10 min opening round that's so wild
Kent's mic makes him sound like a Sega Genesis sample lol
"take the pacifier away from the baby"
"they're gonna cry like babies if you take the time away"
"they like to imagine like spongebob..."
This guy opened the debate saying he didn't want to pick fights. Those are some passive aggressive fighting words
Do you bite ur pacifier at thee
That's what I was thinking. Passive aggressive is a coward's way to sling insults in order to claim innocence and the moral high ground when called on it. Respect to Destiny for not taking the obvious bait.
dude this is nothing compared to jesse lee peterson
Its worse cause he is WAYYYY too wrong on like everything to be so arrogant. Its the Duning Kruger Effect personified.
When he said that there are two ways to answer the question about how old is the Earth and then said there is a Biblical answer and a scientific one, that just says to me that there’s only one way to actually answer the question.
Shannon was the best moderator on one of these debates thus far. By a mile, too.
One of the other moderators on here, during a particularly unproductive flat earth debate, actually said it _wasn't his job_ to moderate if the participants wanted to have a "dumpster fire" of repetition and talking over each other -- and that's what they had... for hours.
This one was refreshingly spot-on, which is surprising considered Kent was involved.
Noticed how she went back to a really good point, rephrased it, and presented it to Kent? But then the other moderator basically said it was too confrontational, even though it was just a fair “hard reporter question”.
@@Cuptial-ev9tb i get where James was coming from with wanting to maintain the appearance of neutrality. But yeah, she put kent in the hot seat for sure
@@Cuptial-ev9tbHe always does that specifically for Kent because he knows Kent is a baby who'll never come back if he's allowed to be disproven.
Incorrect. At one point she attacked Ken unprovoked. Completely unprofessional/ she acted like a volatile emotional female. Another read why women shouldn’t be in positions of power and leadership over men. They simply can’t handle it.
@@AmericanWithTheTruth Yes. After Kent belittled and insulted her several times prior to that and disrespected her ability to moderate😭
kent is creating more atheists ...
kinda funny reading this comment, because when i was little, my extremely far right abusive father made my brother and i watch kent hovind’s creation seminars and that is one of the main reasons why we both now are atheists. people like him really do damage lol
Yup
yep! many thanks to Kent hovind for freeing me from that ridiculous dogma
The lost are already lost. The unsaved are already unsaved. He makes no one an athiest
@@kingsouth5329 You better watch out , you know nothing
Kent - “Dumb lol”
Also Kent - *”The Bible proves the Bible.”*
Luke 12:20-21 (KJV) But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.
@@Martillito6653 The bible proves the bible, once again LMFAO
@@Martillito6653 "He Who is religious is wrong" - Me Who Wrote This Down On A Piece Of Paper = Therefor I Am Right (Logic)
Creationists keep saying "Wow its so convenient that everything takes millions of years" when in reality it's more convenient for them because it adds plausible deniablility for idiots.
The andromeda galaxy is 2.537 million light years from earth and is visible with the naked eye... if the universe was created as bible depicts, stars after earth, and the people who estimate 6K years (which it doesn't ever explicitly say), then how could we see the andromeda galaxy
*I dont wanna be the bearer of bad news to Kent but has no one told him we have recorded history of Empires and civilisations that are OLDER than he thinks the earth is??*
Nah, I don't think there is any known writing before 3000 BC (just some proto-writing). This is why Destiny brought up cave paintings. If you want to go back farther than that, you need archaeological evidence.
@@Thedamped
So your telling me the Chinese didnt have writing and an Empire going back long before that? lol
I think you should check again sir!!!
ruclips.net/video/fFNzX3tYTXU/видео.html
We also know of much older civilisations that are mentioned and documented in Chinese history not to mention archaeological evidence. . . even in Celtic lands there are ancient languages written in stone...then there's places like Stone Henge and the pyramids which arent as old the Chinese history if I remember correctly but yeah it all goes back about 10,000 years at least and is all well documented
@MrRABC1 Hey, I'm not sure where the misunderstanding is. If you watch the video you linked, at 1:05 they talk about when the Chinese came into the Bronze age and begin writing. They list the dynasty as 1600-1050 BC. The Wiki lists Chinese writing dating back to around 1200 BC, which would seem to agree with your video. Writing in the Middle East is much older at around 3000 BC.
The oldest writing in Europe I believe is usually thought to be Linear B in Greece which is also much younger than writing in the Middle East. Around 1400 BC. They don't get writing North of that for even longer.
Stonehenge (3000 BC) and the Giza pyramids (2500 BC) are still less than 6,000 years old.
The problem you are running into is that 6,000 years ago places most of the world into the Neolithic which is before writing developed (considered an important trait of the Bronze Age). Without writing you can't have recorded history.
But anatomically modern humans have been around for much longer than that. For instance, the oldest known permanent settlement is dated at 25,000 years ago. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doln%C3%AD_V%C4%9Bstonice
Just no recorded history going back that far.
@@Thedamped
Then I stand corrected when it comes to actual writing being invented but as you yourself just stated we have knowledge of civilisations going back tens of thousands of years which far exceeds the time length Kent would assert.... I mean just for coal to form or for any of the geological processes we know of to happen takes millions of years I mean the elements we have discovered can only be formed in the super-nova of exploding stars. . . .the things he believes are just crayon eatingly stupid!!!!
@@MrRABC1 Yeah, no Kent was wrong about almost everything he said about science. And sorry if it feels like I was being pedantic. I just feel like it's important when we argue with science deniers that we have our facts straight. Sometimes impressionable people are listening.
“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person,
but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.”
@saber Kent is either stupid or a grifter.
@saber One believes studies and readings verified by multiple different sources and generally understood in the scientific field by 1000's of people, the other believes what was written in a 2,000 year old book which also justifies slavery and substantiates it's claims with nothing other than the book itself.
@saber I don't know what you mean by consensus meaning nothing, but science provides theories that can be reproduced and re-proven by anyone who understands the methods and how to analyse the results. Therefore science isn't based in faith because you can, for yourself, verify facts stated by scientists if you wish to do so.
The bible, however, requires that you undeniably believe everything stated without being able to confirm it yourself in any way other than reading said bible, which is essentially a cyclical argument and leads no where.
My point about slavery was that if you're going to point to the bible in reference to certain proofs, I'll reference it to point out incorrect things in it in order to 'disprove' it. Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” literally telling slaves to be obedient to their masters, which is written in the same book you say should have every word taken literally and not questioned. So I ask, do you think slaves should be obedient to their masters and fear them?
The use of slavery in Africa and Asia is a result of the lack of law enforcement or regulations put in place by their governments, and I'm not going to argue if one religion is better than any other because I don't believe in any of them.
@saber Yeah, except now is the only time in history when religion has been separated from state and governance - every other time in history, which you admit was worse than it is now, religion was essentially doctrine and the state was ruled by religion. The most wars fought in recorded history and most deaths in recorded history were due to unbridled faith in religion, by far the MOST ruthless of which being Christianity.
@saber Ok, please explain how 'evolution' has caused anything within the past 100 years lmao. I don't think you even know what evolution is based on what you just said. Could you also explain how Christians made the world better? Christians actively suppressed scientific progress, saying it was 'defying god', sentencing people like Galileo to life in prison for his Heresy. The people killed by Hitler in the holocaust and the people who died in both world wars is incomparable to the number of people who have died to inquisitions and wars ordered by the catholic church.
Kent started by spouting off a bunch of bullshit for the first 10 minutes straight and then Destiny completely fucking destroyed his argument in 30 seconds. The most annoying part of this whole debate is that Kent is just clearly being an asshole, becuase thats all he has.
lil bro really pulled up Quora for a source 💀
This Kent guy's argument for the Earth being 6,000 years old is solely based on a high school physics formula? Jesus Christ.
worst part is he's got the principle's outcome completely backwards and doesn't realize it hurts his argument lol
I cringed when he said gases couldn’t compress to form stars because of Boyle’s law.
@@Mugen_YG If only we could send this guy back in time 400 years to debate Kepler instead of Destiny
@@97bking message in paper:
Kepler destroyed hovind with facts and logic.
mma4ever yes, what is true, is true, 2+2 has always been 4 so, does not matter what formula you use as long as it is right !
15:22 "where are the stars forming? Nobody's even got a good theory on how a star can form"
15:47 "the Bible claims that god made all the stars. I can't prove that, but that's what I believe"
his whole argument in a nutshell
At first Kent said it on scientific reasoning. Kent believes that God created the universe including stars. So his stand is clear. But science can't explain how stars created
@@JohnDoe-xp7ut I learned the compounds and situations needed to form a star when I was 14. What the fuck kind of school did you go to.
@@JohnDoe-xp7ut I hope you are mimeing
@@Trickey2413 Modern science in lagre is about money And influence. Kent makes The only valid points. Population growth is a far stronger argument than what Many thinks
@@Trickey2413 Science cant Even disprove a 2000 year old book With any good evidence, And still people are made to have faith in something that changes dramaticly every 5 years or so. Tomorrow The universe 10 billion years. Next week maybe Its 50. Who knows
Awesome content as always brother
The topic of the debate is "what is the evidence of the young earth."
Kent responds with "6k years is not young."
Kent is clearly delusional.
The moon is yeeting away from the earth. Checkmate atheists.
I just learned this word "yeet", good one. I'm crying.
5 cm a year monkaW
This one made me laugh out loud. Thanks
ya and if it's already yeeting away from the earth and the force tying it to the earth has an inverse square relationship with the earth, and the force tying it to the earth is getting weaker, that means it must be slowing down, yahtzee - Yeetsus
the sun is 4.6 billions years old they usually supernova about 5 billion or become a dwarf star so earth will die at some point.
with no sun goodbye earth but i still think humans will do that well before.
"Why isn't there a desert bigger than the Sahara?"
There is, Ken. It's named "Antarctica."
But most people don't see Antarctica as a desert. They think a desert is supposed to be a Barren Wasteland that's hot as hell. They don't understand that a desert is essentially a landmass that contains little to no life and isn't inherently suited for life.
@@cosmicfang1864 Well the Sahara contains a decent amount of life, which proves the argument of evolution even more because species couldn't live there if they didn't evolve.
On the age of the earth looking at the movement of the moon
I dont necessarily agree with Hovind on some of his arguments but I think his opponents have no idea what the inverse square law implies. Recall Gravity F= G m1 x m2/r2 such that the force is inversely proportional to the square of the distance apart.. When a body such as a satellite falls to earth, it accelerates. The time taken to fall the 2nd half of the distance will be much much shorter than the 1st. Conversely that force decreases as the distance between two bodies increases (deceleration) hence the earth's gravitational pull on the moon is less the further away it gets. Ergo, one would deduce that its movement is slowing as the rate decreases. There may be several other factors, but I think the point is valid that rate of separation is slowing exponentially as the gravitational force decreases. Hovind's point that the moon could have been far closer to earth less than a billion years ago which would have had devastating affect on climate such as tide levels and other extreme weather events.
A desert is not defined by the temperature or the number of life there. In general, an area is defined as a desert by the annual amount of rain an area get
Can anyone explain to me what a snow Burns .
Or why do we use dry ice .
For a guy who taught high school physics he’s completely forgetting the counter example to the inverse square law with planets, that being the conservation of energy. As the moon gets closer to the earth it will speed up as a result of converting potential energy into momentum
Why doesn’t that apply to satellites or meteors?
Edit- Or does it? Genuinely curious.
@@jontay4199 it applies to any rotating system. It’s the classic example of an ice scatter who is spinning pulling in their legs and rotating faster and vice versa. As you move closer to the body you orbit your velocity increases and while energy is conserved potential energy is converted to rotational energy
Info dumping with power points in a debate is cringe, imagine teaching physics for 15 years and getting embarrassed in an argument about astrophysics by a youtuber in a debate about young earth creationism(your bread and butter/ your religion) lol.
He didn't teach physics or math. He can barely do addition.
How can the earth be 6,000 years old if Hovind took 30,000 years to make his slide show?
TEMPEST4k MAGIC! 🤯
Temp Great comment. This fake Ph.D. is so funny!
Like the bigbang right ? Your sienctists tells you 30millions year ago a bigbang pupipuup really ?
@@jiriangills5867 Jirian..Have no idea what you wrote. Read more books and also study English! It's simple...like your brain! Checkmate. U lose..I win again!
@@davewilliams5102 those book of school/NASA(television)the big bang that youve been thought what else ? All those bs talk about 'space' that you believe is what i allready know...nothing new but more bs..... Im beyond mr.William en probeer mijn taal eens 😉
I'll summarize all of Kent's points in 3 sentences:
"There's a paper written by a few scientists that disagrees with the consensus of every other reputable scientist that has studied orbital mechanics. Also I don't like radiocarbon dating because it's weird. Read the Bible."
Also the paper doesn't even disagree with the 4,5 billion years, it just offered some refined calculations to explain certain issues they found.
@AllGTG well it's all he said so
@@leroture7750 I'm not gonna assume his stance, but you don't know if he agrees with that or not.
Cellkist There’s another comment about Nero where allgtg supports creationism, so that’s how I know his stance.
@AllGTG crack open the bible and prove it wrong? Everything that can be proven wrong has already been proven wrong. What are you talking about?
the young earth creationist sips his mt dew, the natural subjectivist sips his Soylent, and I am an alcoholic
Destiny needed to ask him about the Heat Problem which would have vaporized the earth’s crust with all the heat created by observable geological process like plate tectonics, volcanic eruptions, the curing of limestone, and accretion of minerals in the geologic column, not to mention nuclear decay, asteroid and comet strikes, all claimed by young earth creationists to have happened during Noah’s flood which lasted a year.
Kent probably would've answered it with the Noah's flood thing tbh. At this point, I'm thinking that the YECs are to Christians what Ancient Aliens believers are to Atheists and Agnostics.
Plate tectonics OmegaLUL
Also where did all the carbon dioxide go from the massive amounts of limestone seen on the surface?
Destiny was owed a steak dinner in this debate.
I agree, Hovind needs to take some critical thinking courses. It's painful hearing his poorly reasoned arguments over and over again.
Also, great math on that steak dinner bet dr. dino....spend $500 to do a lab test and win a $75 steak dinner....
@@MrMusashiMusashi wait who?
@@MrMusashiMusashi Sorry, but the math is: $500 for each test, times 5. That's a $2425 steak dinner. lol
@@icin4d wow, it was $500 PER test? Even worse then lol
"You guys like to imagine..." literally believes in god
In christian god.
Believing in existence of a supreme intelligence is one thing but that is not what hovind believes. He believes in a particular creator from particular mythology who for some reason is really obsessed with blood.
@@jakubmike5657 it really isn't.. there is no evidence of supreme intelligence.. if there is then explain what qualifies
@@kellyrankin8844 *your opponent has left the match*
@@kellyrankin8844 It is a thing that cannot really be disproven. Like brain in the jar thought experiment. If someone believed it ( or entertain it as a possibility) it is very different to belief in a particular maker.
@@jakubmike5657 "It is a thing that cannot really be disproven."
How does not being able to disprove something, prove or even justify it's existence?
I just watched Prof. Dave miss his opportunity to take this charlatan down. Now I see Destiny(who I thought was a gamer slash sm personality, because the only time I'd seen him previously was when he judged that talent contest that Harry Mack won) completely dismantle this dude's argument, while looking like he's not even paying attention!😴 It is one of the most impressive things I've seen in a while! And watching Kent use his "settle down, now" technique every time Destiny served him something he couldn't rebut was beautiful! The only thing I'm concerned about is that he speaks so fast, most people won't have a chance to comprehend what he's saying. Hopefully they'll feel the impact though in Kent's inability to form a counterargument.
But man, after this, I'm forever a fan of Destiny!💪
After watching Kent steamroll Prof. Dave, I kind of needed this.😂
I would pay the ppv fee to see Destiny debate Shapiro, since Shapiro carefully chooses people he can punch down on(which is why he targets universities), and rarely debates anyone of this caliber.
Super duper late to this, but I rewatched both of them one after another and it takes a different perspective to view both properly in my opinion. Destiny is way better at the optic wins, like being calm despite the Kent trying to get him worked up. Where Dave is much better at competing with the actual science. Dave got more worked up, which is probably why you think this. Just a quick point on how different people debate because it is interesting to see.
Love this!
GOD DIDN'T CREATE MAN, MAN CREATED GOD
Ah yes lets calculate orbital velocities and gravitational attraction with a middle school formula
What was Kent's PHD thesis on and where can I find it?
"I'm not prepared for that"
@@erichathaway4783
"Hovind, along with his alma mater, Patriot Bible University, has consistently refused to allow his dissertation to be offered for public reprint or scholarly inquiry."
Sounds promising, and Patriot University is a diploma mill.
It starts off with "Hello. My name is Kent Hovind."
His _doctoral dissertation_ starts off like that ... His 'PhD' is less valuable than toilet paper.
@@drazenkekovic3012 His PhD might be a _tiny_ bit more valuable at this time. Asswipe is hard to come by.
😂😂😂 PHD? 😩
@@L4ck0Ski11 He purchased his degree. Yes, it's faked.
Kent acts pretty pretentious for being a Christian. Especially given the fact that destiny has been so respectful the whole time
Hovind became a young earth creationist in his youth (back in the 70’s)
If you ask him today, he’ll tell you….he will never accept one single piece of evidence for an old earth.
Which basically means, his ability to learn about the universe in an unbiased way, effectively stopped back in the 70’s. The science education that he does have came down to us from generation after generation of “old earth” scientists. The fact that he taught “high school science” (even if it was only religious, young earth schools) is absolutely terrifying. Who could possibly want their children taught by someone who has worn earplugs and blinders all his life.
As a general rule I prefer not to give any attention to people like this but, in Kent’s case I think it’s okay because he hurts their cause so much.
Just listening to his insanity about the firmament, Noah’s Ark, dinosaurs etc shows everyone how crazy he is.
And that’s not even getting into his criminal record
The whole debate summed up:
This happened.
No it didn't.
Yes.
How can you know?
Yes
But it doesn't make sense.
Yes it does.
I am so confused.
You should reconsider your position.
...
Nice lol
Very succinct
At least he believes you existed, sir Dino
destiny: animal without backbone
chat: dave rubin
Chat is the real MVP from this debate reading it is always a clusterfuck of absolute gold
Lol it's funny because the Bible calls homosexuals beasts 😂
@@Ricky_Evans1611
What an insult to beasts
Dude, after reading his wiki, Kent Hovind isn't going to Heaven lol.
If evolution is real, why haven't creationists evolved any intelligent arguments?
It's deleterious, it's being selected against.