Z-Press ~ Quick, Clean & Reliable Press-fit
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2023
- Z-Press | Professional Press Tools for Plumbing and Heating Installations
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M-PROFILE PRESS TOOL MULTI-JAW
Z-Press Tool complete with 15mm - 28mm M-Profile Jaws.
A professional tool for pressing up to 28mm pipe fittings.
Complete with jaws, batteries, charger and carry case.
This press tool is lightweight, easy to handle and offers a perfect press every time.
This hydraulic press tool works on copper, PEX and Multi-layer pipe with an approximate charging time of 30mins. The Z-Press tool from Zupper Gets the Job Done.
The service intervals for Z-Press tools are every 30,000 cycles, and the Z-Press tool comes complete with a LED display to show the user how many presses they have completed.
The high-performance Li-ion battery provides a strong power source without the loss of power and is effective up to 300 times on one charge.
The Z-Press tool is suitable for copper, stainless steel, PEX, Multi-layer and composite.
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I was lent one last year to try for a week. Fantastic tool, I was very impressed.
However, I only fit bathrooms and most of my work is in tight spots with an emphasis on hiding pipes in whatever space is available. The tool is too large for these situations so I still had to deal with blowtorch and fire safety.
I simply have no room for two sets of pipe jointing.
But if I ever got into 1st fixing on new builds, it'll be a no brainer.
Thanks for sharing!
The rems press gun has different heads for doing up your fitting at any angle.
personally i have a tendancy to pre press the fittings outwith the bath basin etc.Then generally one press each under the bath/basin
@@tambias handy to know but often the issue was the bulk of the heads when pipes are close to each other or right next joists or studs.
It's a great tool for sure but having both press and flame on one job is pointless
100% mate,i am still old school blowtorch and yorkies but the younger boys i work with use the rems gun,it honestly has heads for every application but bloody pricey!
Look good it would be nice to hire one for those who don’t do plumbing every day and are comfortable doing there own work 👍
We agree!
15 minute paid advert - trustworthy. Thanks.
Gripping stuff Roger!
I'm still in the mental stage of planning how I want to redo my pipe works. I'm in the states. It's either going to be Pex, or copper with crimp fittings like this. I used to be a pvc/cpvc guy but now I'm old enough to have directly experienced how it becomes brittle and I don't like that. I do electrical as well and being able to run Pex like NM wire has serious advantages in my eyes, in terms of just being quicker and easier and perhaps even getting a cleaner looking result. and I forgot to mention that copper can be tricky for someone not a professional at it, and I don't need pin holes 5 or 10 years down the line which is why the crimp is appealing even though I can solder
This looks excellent, apart from being a bit big for tight spaces, I think I might invest.
good work roger !
Thanks Mark
We did the waste for an RAF base in 1.5 and 2 inch stainless crimp at their request, I quite enjoyed it, better than the usual solvent weld stuff we do on jobs. We just hired the tool and heads and it was pretty easy given I'd never done any before.
I wonder why the RAF needs such a durable waste pipe?
@@SkillBuilder They don't. It's a bottomless pit when it's being funded by the taxpayer.
@@SkillBuilder it's the RAF they consume anything and everything so you don't know what's going in the waste pipes!
@@SkillBuilder To be fair it was mainly in the catering areas. Same goes with prisons, they get seriously overkill spec stuff as well.
Nice bit of kit.
Setting fire to things is part of the fun!! 🤣 Not really for an amateur like me - I'll stick with solder and the occasional speedfit! Interesting tool though. I can see it has lots of advantages for a tradesman. Thanks for the video.
Jamie mentioned about the refrigeration fittings and compatibility between the refrigeration jaws and machines.
If you search for ">B< MaxiPro Technical Brochure", Conex Banninger's document lists the compatibility of these refrigeration jaws and the various machines which can use them.
Thanks for the tip
press is awesome
I know you use it all the time. What is your machine?
What are your thoughts on the M and V profiles?
As I understand it the V is better yet the Z-press only available with M
Ee Rodger you're looking really fanatical in this video!
I often do, I have that mad look. I could have had a career playing nutters in the movies
@@SkillBuilder
LOL! 😊 !
If it’s a movie where the nutter breaks in and tells you what your builder messed up and how it should have been done… I’d watch it
I’ve never used pressfit but I definitely think it might be something I’m gonna have to get in to due to the no hot works issues.
I’d like to hear from guys that do a lot of boiler installs. How do you find it for instance when doing a combi swap? I fit logics and the pre-made tails bring you off the wall at Clíp distance. Are these jaws small enough to get in between the vertical pipes as they run up the wall and behind the pipe at Clíp distance?
Most of that pipework can be pre-fabricated and clipped to the wall. It just requires a slightly different approach but it works fine
Biggest advantage over solider was not mentioned . You can connect one pipe to the fitting at a time .
ie Two pipes of a tee then add to set up with the last one . 100% would have one if I was trade but as a DIYer will have to stick to my Rothenberger just due to price .
👍👍👍Thanks
How much for a fully working kit from them. All the bits you'd need for your day to day?
I still think soldered columns of copper pipework including parallel cross overs and especially street fittings just look more neater compact and professional. I do agree though that press fittings are useful on long pipe runs and under floorboards and attics where they could be the likelihood of a fire. Just my own opinion very good video.
M Press now do WaterGas fittings that can be used on both gas and water,and are WRAS approved.
I have a REMS mini press and have done since 2016.
This one looks good.
In principal are these compression fittings?
Will press fit fittings work on jg speedfit pipe to make copper to plastic joint? Tia
Thoughts on Pex piping? I do not see it all that much in the UK
Most of it is under the floor but there is plenty of it about
Why are these machines so blimmin expensive, they have a battery and look like a multi tool, but are over a grand to buy Compared to other tools with similar internal gubbings if you get my drift.
What’s so special or different in them???
I’d love to know
Far less demand I expect.
I also presume these are a calibrated compression tool to ensure the pressure applied is within the correct tolerance for ensuring a tight fit without crushing the fitting - the R&D and manufacturing tolerances etc will need recovering to make this profitable.
I wonder if the O rings are lasting longer than the push fits O rings and how do they rate in an external, application or Acid/Alkali environment ?
I share your concern and have looked into the lifespan of EPDM 'O' rings in the past and all I can say is that they will outlast most of the people doing the job. They are very good for hot and cold and are used in motor vehicles and braking systems. They do not like hydrocarbons so keep them away from oil.
@@SkillBuilder Lets hope they outlast the customer then pal ....
The O-rings are not what makes the water tight connection, it's just a backup. The copper to copper pressing is what makes it water tight.
Will this press the brass pro press ball valves
After my new extension caught fire I'm a fervent supporter of press fit and no hot working.
I didn’t hear him saying the tool must be recalibrated every 6 months or so in order for the warranty to be valid. We strong armed Pro-Press into providing loaners during this time. We have bought over a thousand different press tools since they first came out.
I didn't say that it needs to be callibrated every six months because it isn't true. There is a counter on the tool which tells you when it is due for a service. If you reached that number in a week then you would have to send it in but for a lot of people it might be a year or even two.
Only ever used pressfit stuff once last year. It must be good or it wouldn't be so popular now but I'm still a dinasaur and like good old fashioned solder or compression fittings. I would be interested to see a pressfit joint in 20 or 30 years time.
I'd argue compression doesn't hold out for that long either
True, but a quarter turn will probably solve the problem on a compression fitting, done while the system is live. I imagine it wouldn't be a simple fix on a weepy press fit fitting.
Just how long does that internal O ring seal last with a very hot water environment.
I've been involved with 63mm stainless mapress stuff, that's a ball ache when you get that wrong 😂
Hi Andy
I agree but when you get to those sizes you are playing in a different league. Happily my work stops at 28mm.
I agree. But on my side of the pond. If you're working by the hour. You have to charge everytime i bring it out. Because I'm spending on the tool and losing on the labor
Good point.
I charge $100. Each time
That argument has gone back and forth for years. A man digging a hole charging by the hour or a JCB digging the same hole, you charge for the hole. When I bought my first diamond core bits they were a lot of money so I charged £10.00 per hole on top of labour.
@@SkillBuilder Thanks for making my point
Propress, Z-Press, M-Press what else do they have? I am confused.
Roger, compared to something like the REMS Akku press, which is more than twice the price of the Z-Press it's a bargain. Unexpectedly B&Q seem to be the cheapest retailer for the Z-Press at the moment.
All this talk of Zupper, it's making me hungry...
How does that O-ring handle High temperatures?
Very well, it is used in all kinds of high temperature situations.
Oh dear - O-rings... Time will tell.
Rings are for backup. The crimp is what seals. You need to use hydraulic press not the electronic press for pex
Are all press fit systems compatible with each other?
No you have to go for the designated fittings that match the jaws
I have had this gun for a year now and its been brilliant so far!
Only downfall is that there are no angled jaws!
Maybe soon
@@SkillBuilder hope so
How's the press tool been have you gave it a hard time thinking of ordering
@@galaxydave69 Yeah still a very good tool. No problems other than a few user errors!! Also takes Makita batteries if you have any.
@markhare5066 ok I'm gona go for it seamed to good to be true at that price thanks for your feedback
How long do the o rings last before going brittle?
I am not sure when they would go brittle if ever but they give them a life expectancy of 50 years. Lubricant is in the mix not added afterwards
The o rings are backup. It will seal even without the o rings. Check RUclips
Once worked on a (very) large industrial site and nearing completion , returned to work following a weekend and a bank holiday Monday to find basement under 4ft of water due to weak batteries on push fit tool . No doubt used error involved but the tool is definitely in need of a charge indicator !
Hi Kevin
There is something strange about that. The pressure required to complete the cycle means the jaws remain in the closed position. If the tool fails to complete the cycle you can't open those jaws. No doubt someone else with more press fit experience will comment but I am mystified.
Was it not pressure tested??
I was an electrician on the job and it was a few years ago so yes more info is needed . Sorry i didn't mean to mis-lead . Maybe the tools come a long way in a few years. I can highly recommend the electrical version .
@@SkillBuilder Agree Roger more likely operatives missed pressing the joint we always mark the joints as pressed with operatives initials
Does this work for the United States fittings l?
What about earth continuity, is this maintained?
yes
Looks good but I find push fit so easy to use in most situations that I could not warrant purchasing such a tool.
How long does the o-ring last?
I have looked at this subject across several sources. EPDM 'O' rings are said to be good for at least 50 years. Of all 'O' ring material it is one of the most durable. The press fit locks the pipe to the fitting so there is zero movement on the pipe where it enters the 'o' ring. Just keep them away from hydrocarbons. Also avoid mechanical damage when assembling or storing fittings.
@@SkillBuilder great thank you 😊 that’s really good
most large builders have moved away from this due to insurance issues, it's mainly down to improper fitting
And the question we all wanted to ask was how much£...?
Looks identical to the allpha press
How much is the tool
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The motor on mine burnt out after 270 presses from this manufacturer. I'm in the process of sending it back for repair. Its going to cost 120 quid to post it and get it back. Wish I went for a nova press
Give me all the details, it should be under warranty and I will find out why not. We never promote things that we don't believe are good so it is important to us to establish the facts.
Like plumbing with Robby the Robot
What model number is this please
They are easy to use but when you have to do alterations at a later date it turns nightmarish very quickly.
Do you unsweat fittings, I usually cut them out and put in new ones. Same applies here.
@@SkillBuilderagreed, unsweating and cleaning up is a ball ache. Cut back and start afresh
It's not that bad. I use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel. Cut into the fitting not all the way. Then pop it open with a flat head screwdriver
Jamie?? His shirt says his name is Wes.
But press fit is still based on o-rings in fittings. They never last
Define 'last'
I'm an engineer in the food Industry, and the bloody things are always popping. On the whole you can repair compression and push fit fittings pretty easily but the press fittings are a pain in the !!!!
@@SkillBuilder About the length of time until the installer's reached retirement age.
@@SkillBuilder middle of the night long after fitting.
Drip, drip, drip. Shhhhhsssssss.
Bang as the roof falls in.
When a seal goes they don't always give long before the blow by.
Wasn't it a problem with O rings that caused the Challenger Space shuttle to crash?
M-Contour or V-contour?
M contour
The rubber is gonna break down, innit?
So Roger if people keep saying that.
Does Rodger have eyelids?
No, and he can't close them when he sleeps.
@@SkillBuilder 😂😂🤝🤝
The fun part about crimp connectors is that they may start leaking months after assembly.
I like copper connectors that stay tight for a lifetime.
Alloy is your ally for peace of mind.
HOW MUCH ££££ ???
two jaws you will ever need th and V or M it will do all of them
Disadvantage is you need to get everything right first time. Make a booby and you then have to rip it out and start again.
We will find out in the next 10 yrs if press fit was a good idea
the fact that i couldn't find the price anywhere, it means they hide it because is expensive. So ,yes it's clean,quick.reliable but they failled to make it affordable . Better look for cheaper alternatives
It is under a thousand pounds and you can get it through your independent merchant. Nobody is hiding the price and I have not seen a cheaper machine on the market that is any good so I wish you luck with that.
Is it as good as the Victorians?
Dont Hilti do one? Lol
Actually they do but it is a strange beast starting at 19mm and then going to 22mm and that is it.
Roger a Z-Press Press Fit Kit - 15 to 28mm £759.95 ex vat !! you having a laugh . no wonder you didn't mention the price
as a gilded apprentice served (5 years) plumber ill stick to solder. ps enjoy the Chanell
I know plenty of plumbers who spent well over a £1,000 plus vat on their kit so that seems like a good deal to me. When we did our last soldering video we got comments from people who couldn't believe that we hadn't moved on to soldering.
Out of interest what do plumbers charge in your part of the world?
I didn't mention the price because the videos stay on our channel for years. I am never afraid of talking money but we can't possibly know what deals are going on any given time.
@@SkillBuilder fair point
There are some used ones out there for about £450
Been about for donkies, just not in a domestic setting.
Not compliant with gas regulation which prohibits use of any plastic parts. O ring is a form of plastic
Press fit is. You fit the fittings with yellow, not black, o rings, usually marked gas on the fitting.
There are approved gas fittings for press fit.
O ring is a synthetic polymer.
Looks like a solution to a non existent problem, a bit like electric parking brakes and space saver tyres.
£ 900 inc vat.....no thanks
👍
£655 on aliexpress delivered
Not for me
Gripping stuff 🤙🏾🧱🧱
Been common in France for a decade. Don’t think British ‘tradesmen’ have the level of professionalism required.
What a load of nonsense you speak.
There will be alot of work for plumbers in 20 years when all theese o rings start failing
no skill in press fit and all the skill is going out of the trades its all about speed not quality any more
Rob
I have heard that argument for years. I learned to wipe lead joints with molten lead and a moleskin. I also caulked cast iron. There is nothing inherently superior about difficult tasks. What we are looking for is leak free plumbing and this is it,
A massively overpriced tool.
I said it is competitively priced. If you don't agree check out Rothenberger and Rems, both are over a thousand quid.
@@SkillBuilder Doesn't mean the tool isn't overpriced, just means it's overpriced everywhere. They could easily sell this for £500, it's just greed which they get away with because of a lack of manufacturers. Sit back and wait for the flood of reasonably priced Chinese alternatives all you'll see what I mean. Gone are the days when you can scoff at cheaper Chinese products.
I find it funny you brit bongs use imperial and metric, why just not go with god's measurements and use imperial all the time?
Do you really believe in imaginary friends?
@@sugarpuff2978 Why not your lack of belief is your imaginary friend...
Lupus
God gave us free will so we could choose what we want. He also gave us the power of reason and if people use that reason to deduce that he/she/it does not exist that is also God's work.
@@SkillBuilder Well technically imperial measurement is from the demiurge it is derived from the speed of light and circumference of the earth. I was just joking there is no God's measurement.
Brits have the brain capacity to use both 🇬🇧
No prices on their website ! Put me off straight away. Ridiculous way to market a new product !!