How to Put a Hipped Roof on a Building That Isn’t Square
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The Oblique Roof
An oblique roof, also known as a skewed or slanted roof, refers to a roof that does not have a symmetrical pitch or slope.
Instead of meeting at a central ridge line, as in traditional gabled roofs, the two planes of an oblique roof might meet off-centre or have different slopes.
This design choice can be both functional and aesthetic. For instance, an oblique roof might direct rainwater or snow to a particular side of a building, or it might be chosen simply for its unique and contemporary appearance.
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For anyone looking for a roofing square get Dan’s. Nothing easier out there Game changer
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Prefer the roofing circle,’definite non game changer ❤
@@CEO786 😂🙌🏻
When I hear plumbers and electricians that are demanding 350-400 a day and us fellow chippys are snuffed at when you suggest anywhere near that I’d say watch the dans and robins of this world not for 1 second suggesting I’m in that league but merely that carpentry is overlooked sometimes especially if you do all aspects (well). Thankyou for this video was a great watch
No tradesman is worth £400/day.
@neilrafferty2097 Of course they are. Speaking as retired local authority data developer who does relatively heavy duty diy. Might depend on where you live and what client base you can build up, but... putting roof over a family's head, electrics, water: things that are a matter of life and death if done badly. Far more important than bankers, lawyers, etc. You're worth being able to afford a nice home in a place you want to live not far from most of your customers, at least one holiday a year, running a depreciation account in your business, all the memberships and insurance your trade requires, paying into a good pension scheme, have enough to spare if you have to take time off due to illness, family pressures, caring for elderly parents.
It's inflated house prices that mean all cash goes on mortgages. Folk blanch at paying you what you're worth. You can't afford to take your time to do the best job you'd like to do for job satisfaction.
Totally agree , carpentry not getting enough to solve these issues ,great video as always, cheers
Us mechanics get wayyy less than that
@@neilrafferty2097 you'd be surprised
And that folks is why Chippys are King Of Trades 😉
and some of them never tire of telling us how good they are. Thankfully Dan Cox is content to just get on with the job.
As an architect I'm really glad I watched this! Now I have a better understanding of which dimensions are most useful for building from, plus I'm going to start noting the plumb angle on my drawings from now on.
Be easier to move the road.
This is what makes our job (as a roofing carpenter) so interesting, the grey matter is constantly being challenged, there is no better feeling than standing back once a roof is framed knowing that it all worked out perfectly!
You could also have found the position of the crown rafter on a scale drawing by using a pair of compasses set to the length of the common rafter length and striking an arc from the last pair of commons to the new wall plate, really enjoyed both of the videos on this build. 👍
Although dans working out was needed prior to establish the position of the last commons with the offset crown.
@@bdizzle7633 Agreed, Dans method worked a treat, there are alternative ways to find the point at which the crown strikes the ridge also but this was a great example 👍
Hi @@RobNorman08 , the scaled drawing was out a bit as the position of the wall plate slightly changed. Thanks for the comments. 🙌
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Oh I wasn't implying "your" drawing should have been scaled, just pointing out there is more than one way of skinning a cat 😂 I thought it was a fantastically well explained video, thought the roof itself came out superb!
@@RobNorman08 sorry perhaps I misunderstood you. I did do a small scale drawing to work out the 7 degrees.
Thanks for watching and glad you liked it. 😉
I’m glad Dan knows his stuff!
Regardless of whether you understand this video first time (& u will get it after a few watches) just asking the roofer how he is doing it is so fascinating.. & now you know !
I'm a sparks, I love watching these types of videos. Very clever. Well over my head.😂
It doesn’t take much to get over your heads when it comes to you sparkies. ❤
@@CEO786 i use page 3 to count to two 😜🤣🤣🤣
Practical geometry. Every day is a learning day. Brilliant. More of these theory classes pleased.
i love dans nervious lets try at the start when asked about explaining it. then knocks it ouit of the park with a very clear explination that makes perfect sence. iv done over 20 roofs in the last few years and was nervious about trying something like that but dans explination makes it very easy to understand and go about constructing
Great thing about carpentry is that we are always solving problems...keeps you on your toes..i like dans square but, i use a traditional roofing square with a homemade fence.. anyway its always good to share the knowledge and experience, cheers.
Can we have a whiteboard theory series. For all the trades. All the skills. All the builders! 🚀
That is a good suggestion but we need to come up with a list of topics
Clear as mud 👍 anything with these two is fantastic it’s like hinge and bracket
Half of 97 is 48.5 not 43.5 Dan. Other than that, very good video, quality as usual!
Thanks for that!
That was a great idea to follow up the previous video with this explanation. Dan's a great tradesman.
Very well explained, although if I had to do one, I’d definitely have to find this vid for a refresh! Appreciate the time you guys put in 👍
That was very well explained. Great work Dan, and good job in bringing out the answers Roger.
I’m not likely to need anything I’ve learned about Hip Joint construction, be that square or otherwise, but I’m glad I’ve watched both videos- I’ve gained a greater understanding as to why some things are the way they are, and also know now where to come if I do need to brush up on this. Good work chaps 👍
Im glad you done this follow up! It makes so much more sense now! Dan you are a clever man! Thank you! Roger you're alright too!
Thanks Sam.
Great video fellas 👍🏻
I know what you were doing....... you wanted to be sure we were paying attention.... and commenting. 43.5 eh? ( just kidding with you guys) Great video, both of them. Certainly one of your best videos. thank you
Lovely knowledge sharing. I need to watch this and the other video a few times. Great work
That's really helpful. Thank you for sharing
Excellent video hats off to both of you should be made compulsory viewing for Carpentry and Joinery students
Dan Cox what a proper Carpenter you are love to work with you for a month on roofs
Dans married he’s not that way inclined.
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@@CEO786 £20 is £20 😂
@CEO786 I asked Dan once if he was gay, he said, 'give me a kiss and I'll tell you'😂
I tell you what Dan you are so good at explaining things mate thankyou will be ordering one of you squares please keep up the videos
Great set of videos. It would be nice to see the rest of the build as well.
More to come!
I have a double end hipped roof I need to replace that is (very) not square, this knowledge is useful. Thanks Roger and Dan. Xx
Glad to help
Very well explained and its all about the geometry. Unfortunately im crap at it so im glad im not doing roofs.
Thats very well explained 👌
Half of 97 is 48.5 , just getting my two pence worth in ❤
Wow! 🤯 Dan’s products sell themselves… desperately trying to break my Trend hinge jig and get his replacement! 😂
I have a hipped roof bungalow and need to join an extension with a mono pitch roof onto it. Would love to see your thoughts on joining to bungalow roofs (so often is a single story extension onto the wall of a house on RUclips).
Well explained boys, 👍👌
Thanks, Rodger and Dan, for explaining that, which made it much easier to understand
Perhaps it might be an idea to explain things more like this more of a visual learning best regards to you both and all the others. Thank
We recognise that people learn in different ways so we try to cover all bases
All those kids who think they don't need to understand basic maths should watch this and see it in action in a real world situation.
Except they haven't calculated half of 97 correctly!
Perfect!
On plan, it's just a problem of similar triangle and symmetrical kite shapes. In 3 dimensions it presents a lot of odd angle cuts. Did you work these out by trial and error or can it be calculated? You described the differences from the usual 45 degree cuts but I just wondered where those figures came from. Obviously, you have to have all the rafters at the same gradient to maintain a plane surface - hence your geometric design. Fascinating.
I actual understood it, but he made it look easy but I am sure in practice it’s not. Very interesting.
What's going on?... all hocus pocus to me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
half of 97 1/2 is 48 3/4 degrees great vid
It’s actually degrees.
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. yes Daniel lol my mind was elsewhere
great video, just wondering about the roof tiles, do they run parallel with the fascia and therefore on an angle or square with main roof meaning more rows one side than the other?
They run with the fascia but the courses on each side don't quite match. Luckily the hip tile will cover it and you will never notice unless you fly into Heathrow.
If the wall plate comes in and the rafters get shorter does the pitch of each rafter change, if the height above plate stays the same.
Hi mark, no they stay the same as they are square of the wall plate.
97 degrees half is 48.5
The setting out for this is truly mind bending Dan🤯(I cant believe how many people fell for your half of 97 nugget😅) Tuck your label in Roger🙃
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Daniel wasn't watching my back (label) and I wasn't watching his (maths). Two dead men lying in a field.
@@SkillBuilder At least you couldn't see that you had your trousers on back to front Rog😆
@@thetallcarpenter 😂
Daniel "Pythagoras" Cox👍
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Dan you should be at College teaching these skills to the next generation ....
@@alexbittner9649 perhaps when I’m a bit older..
? Dan, how did you get that circle, scar, Dot thing on the back of your head. That is mad. I bet there's a good story there. 😮
Think it’s a blocked gland.. surgery needed. 😮
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Roger's a jack of all trades, I reckon he could remove it. It would make for a popular video.
@@ricos1497 great idea. Watch this space. 🤕
I was thinking the exact same thing. It is only plumbing, what could possibly go wrong?
Half of 97 is 48.5 , not 43.5
It depends if you’re buying or selling. 😉
Half of 97 is 48½ tho😢
I’m sure it was an Intentional error to get the comments & interaction… 😅
It's quite easy to make this mistake on camera. I'm sure he got his numbers right on the job 😅
@@nd5Ip3p0Muthanks and yes. Unfortunately when the camera comes out my mind goes blanks..
It would be nice to see a picture of the finished product, or a rendering of the finished product. Otherwise 👍
It's the previous video
@@18199 thank you.
I need to go back to school as I thought half of 97 was 48 and 1/2 Apart from that bit rest made sense.
How could you make such a basic error. 1+1 + 1
Half of 97 is 48.5
Dan said on the roof video that on a conventional 38° the hips run in at 29° did he mean the seat cut would be 29° ?
Yes, the seat is 29 degrees and the plumb cut is 61 degrees.
The pitch is from horizontal to the elevation.
We do have a few other videos where I explain this.
ruclips.net/video/CaPoQBXL2t4/видео.htmlsi=Bjr8mICPFQC2ssfH
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Thank you Dan
As I've often thought, an architect is just a joiner with his brains bashed oot.
its hip 2b square .....
Hate to tell you guys but half of 97 is 48.50
Half of 97 degrees is what
Half of 97 degrees is lots of comments.
What’s half of 97?……43.5? Lol.
Yes it happens
Great video that . Still don’t understand but I don’t need to .
It’s a good job the joinery class was full when I started the YTS 😂🧱👍🏽🧱🧱
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