How Do You Cut a Bastard or Irregular Hip Roof?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • Dan Cox shows us how to calculate and cut irregular or bastard hips and valleys.
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  • @tilerman
    @tilerman 3 года назад +21

    I was working on a house this week (i'm a tiler) and got the opportunity to watch a chippie construct a complex looking roof. Loads of angles (sorry, i don't know what type of roof it's called!) and a huge pile of timber. The chippie spent time, pen and paper, working out angles etc before he got cracking. It actually was a joy to watch this man. Every cut he done was tight and perfect, and he took pride. And it was raining poor sod! One thing i did notice about this gentleman was that after complementing him, how self deprecating he was, only considering himself a 'workman'. He was extremely skilled and proud of his work but kept putting himself down. I told him he's not 'just a workman' but a skilled tradesman. Great vid by the way chaps.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад +15

      That is exactly the attitude of a true craftsman. The skills are not their invention, they are learned, refined and passed on.

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting 3 года назад +20

    This is what they should explain in maths. My maths is poor, I don't build roofs but I still believe it would make it more interesting for kids to show them where, what appears pointless but isn't, their maths would be used. "Want to build roofs? This is why you need this, it will help you work out the angles". "Want to do gaming programming? This bit of maths will help with that". And so on.

    • @offcuts4146
      @offcuts4146 3 года назад

      You really make a good point i used to ask my teacher where would you use algebra etc and their reply wad its in the silibus just do it. Wasnt being cheeky just wanted to try and understand how some of the maths would help feel i missed out. These videos really help

    • @sally6457
      @sally6457 3 года назад

      Can you honestly say that when you were 14 you would have done better in maths if the teacher was telling you how to build a roof?
      You were taught about shapes in nursery, door =rectangle, roof=triangle, ball=circle,
      The information provided by schools is vast, it's up to you to listen, it's all there on a plate, and for free!
      YOU are responsible for your education.
      Stop blaming others for your ignorance!
      The fact that you posted a comment proves you have access to the internet, the knowledge of billions of people at your fingertips! And you use it to blame the people who dedicate their lives to giving you the best possible start in life because they didn't tailor ever lesson to you?
      Take responsibility for your own life,

    • @offcuts4146
      @offcuts4146 3 года назад +1

      To sally. When i left school i didnt have the internet myself showing my age. I was good with my maths overall but struggled with things such as algebra and trigonometry. Yes im fully aware im responsible for my education. I am due to do a part time carpentry course on my days off work to try and imrove myself so yes aware regarding education. It wasnt meant to sound like blaming someone just stating its part of maths i struggle with. Mind you i may of struggled with part of my maths but always had manners maybe you was just good at maths

    • @helenaobrien8359
      @helenaobrien8359 3 года назад +2

      @@sally6457 wow! You’re a rude cow aren’t you? A man has made a comment on how he wishes that his teacher had related such maths materials to functionality of life and YOU berate him for making a valid comment. Did you go to school with him? I take it you’ve grown up with the internet- I hate to be the bearer of bad news BUT the internet hasn’t been around since the dawn of time. Maybe YOU need to be responsible for your education and actually realise that everyone was not born in the internet age, not everyone had a fantastic education and not everyone had the support to learn. Open your eyes and appreciate that people have different needs.

    • @TheStevenWhiting
      @TheStevenWhiting 3 года назад +1

      Corrected my spelling. One reason hate using my phone to post.

  • @thetallcarpenter
    @thetallcarpenter 3 года назад +11

    What do you mean, 'we've been lucky with the weather', Dan?😮 It looked atrocious.😜 Great job slotting that hip in right place as they can be head scratchers on little jobs like that.😎 Thanks for the video.

  • @bluevanmani
    @bluevanmani 3 года назад +17

    You’ll go rusty Dan working in that weather🙁

  • @bradleythechippychandler9228
    @bradleythechippychandler9228 3 года назад +11

    Nothing better than a pro doing what he does best great vid 👍🏻🙌

  • @dangiles5038
    @dangiles5038 3 года назад +10

    I can tell Dans cut 1000’s of birdsmouths just with that little ping he does with a handsaw knocking out the waste

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +2

      It seems when Roger gets the camera out I’m cutting birdsmouths... 😂.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @DerekTJ
    @DerekTJ 3 года назад +50

    I want to be this man's apprentice. I'm 49.

  • @bloggs692413
    @bloggs692413 3 года назад +20

    and they said you would never use math after school excellent job there fellas

    • @Rhysss1991
      @Rhysss1991 3 года назад +5

      Maths

    • @thfc4745
      @thfc4745 3 года назад

      he used a calculator, I saw no long division :)

  • @badninja1971
    @badninja1971 3 года назад +11

    People always thought I was being crude when I mentioned bastard mitres. 😂

  • @JK-yf9sx
    @JK-yf9sx 3 года назад +17

    It's jaw-dropping for me to hear that clever, clever man explaining maths to the rest of us dolts (apologies to fellow viewers). Bless you sir, you're an inspiration

    • @AltaMirage
      @AltaMirage 3 года назад +6

      Yep. Love it. Best building/trades channel on YT, hands down.

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +4

      Thanks JK. 🙏I did like maths at school but still need to re fresh my memory now days.

    • @stephenmccoy898
      @stephenmccoy898 3 года назад +2

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. Dan what are you using to mark the timber with, I've noticed you all using them, are they pencils pens or some sort of special marker

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +2

      @@stephenmccoy898 hi, it’s a pica pencil. The bigger one with a more square lead is much better. Thanks for watching.

    • @stephenmccoy898
      @stephenmccoy898 3 года назад +2

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. cheers Dan I'll check it out

  • @MT_T991
    @MT_T991 3 года назад +22

    hurrah somone who knows trig, thought i was alone. This chap is the real deal!!!!

    • @gregoryvschmidt
      @gregoryvschmidt 3 года назад +2

      Soh cah toa

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад +4

      Ten Old Angels Sitting on High Talking About Heaven? Did I get that right Dan?

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      @@SkillBuilder oh yes! 👍🏻

    • @rogerbean393
      @rogerbean393 3 года назад +1

      Yes for trig !!!
      Silly Old Hitler Couldn’t Advance His Troops Over Africa !
      SOHCAHTOA

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      @@rogerbean393 now that’s a new one I’ve not heard before!
      Thanks for the order. 🙏🏼

  • @SteveAndAlexBuild
    @SteveAndAlexBuild 3 года назад +6

    Dan the man on the job , could watch him all day, very clever chap 👌🏼
    Me and Al have had a few bastard jobs ourselves lately 😂🤣🧱👍🏼

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +2

      Cheers boys for the continued support. 😄.
      Only a few b’stard jobs... 🤣

    • @SteveAndAlexBuild
      @SteveAndAlexBuild 3 года назад +1

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. 😏🤣🧱👍🏽

  • @MrJimjam2011
    @MrJimjam2011 3 года назад +8

    As has already been explained. If you work to the height above plate then the hipboard will always hit the wall plate corner but the soffit width will need to change to keep the facia height. If you keep the soffit and facia the same and set out from the top edge of end of overhang then 1) the hipboard will not intersect the wallplate corner and 2) you may have to pack up the wallplate to pick up the bearing on the steeper pitch.

    • @N1rOx
      @N1rOx 2 года назад +1

      This helped me a lot, thank you and Skillbuilder (team)

  • @cooking.with.rob.official
    @cooking.with.rob.official 3 года назад +9

    I’ll probably never fit a roof but I love these videos and Dan is brilliant. I’m going to have to put a pitched roof over my wheelie bins or back porch in recognition of these brilliant videos 😂. Great job guys 👌🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏼

  • @conordoyle2091
    @conordoyle2091 3 года назад +8

    No mention about dropping the hip or diahedral angle ? Would be great if Robin or Dan went into some detail about this in a hip video !!

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +5

      I don’t usually put a dihedral angle on a 45 mm hip. Check out the other video on Skill Builder where James and I do put a dihedral angle on a wider hip. Thanks

    • @Sherlockly
      @Sherlockly Год назад +1

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square.so for the hip angle at the top did you keep it 38 one side and other 52 same as the different rafter pitches and 18 for the plumb cut if that makes sense

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. Год назад

      @@Sherlockly yes.. I cut the 38 degree one first, then went square off that to get the 52.

  • @paulradwell9719
    @paulradwell9719 3 года назад +5

    Had a bad roof recently, new build to existing had 50mm out parallel to plates and 60mm out from gable to gable, getting over it with wood is easy compared to running roof tiles to catch up especially with 3 velux windows!
    Top job though lads, never get tired of watching roofs being cut.

  • @alllifematters7080
    @alllifematters7080 3 года назад +13

    Dan knows his stuff alright. What a great addition to the team 💪

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +4

      Thanks. 👍🏻

    • @jaser461986
      @jaser461986 2 года назад +1

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. hi Dan,
      How did you get the plumb cut on the hip as 18degress? If the commons are 22 degrees doesn’t the hip plumb cut come in at about 16 degrees? Thanks

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 2 года назад

      Hi @@jaser461986 , one side was 22 degrees but the other was different. I measured from the corner of the wall plate ( where the hip sits) on the diagonal to plumb down from where both ridges meet. Then the height above the wall plate to top of ridge, then used trigonometry to get the pitch. We did film a different method however due to the rain it wasn’t added.

  • @steventarn7915
    @steventarn7915 3 года назад +7

    Loved the camera shot of the rafters lining up with the hip rafter 👌

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад +3

      Thank you I was also pleased with it

  • @nickhickson8738
    @nickhickson8738 3 года назад +2

    Some (SIN) People have P/H Curly (COS) Black Hair B/H Through (TAN) Perpetual Brushing P/B
    Where:
    P = Perpendicular
    H = Hypotenuse
    B = Base

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      Ten old angels, sitting on high, chatting about heaven.
      T=o/a. S=o/h. C=a/h.
      👊🏻

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад +1

      That's the one I take to bed with me when I say my prayers

  • @joebach087
    @joebach087 3 года назад +2

    Wood framed roof and floor. Block and mortar for walls? This is how it's done in the UK?

  • @danielgeng2306
    @danielgeng2306 2 года назад +2

    I just want to pull up on this site with a bunch of hot coffees and doughnuts or Tea, I’ve been there working in the rain and it sucks ! This is how folks put food on the table … nice work!

  • @jaser461986
    @jaser461986 2 года назад +3

    So if it’s 38 one side and 52 the other, I guess that means that is applied to the top plumb cut of the hip also? 38/52 instead of your usual 45/45?
    Amazing to watch as always! The knowledge is inspiring!

    • @Sherlockly
      @Sherlockly Год назад

      I believe it's 18 degrees for the plum cut and the top cut like you said it's 38/52 instead of 45/45

  • @alextheman422
    @alextheman422 2 года назад +1

    I’m sure this man could have easily afforded a rain day but wants to get it done

  • @ilijadjujic5911
    @ilijadjujic5911 3 года назад +4

    I remember the first time I come across a hip roof like this took me a little while to work it out as I was never shown how to do it or if I was I wasn't paying attention, just a suggestion for another video how about an up and over roof with 2 different wall plate heights this was another one that got my head scratching for a few minutes
    As always another great video, keep them coming

  • @neiledwards4780
    @neiledwards4780 3 года назад +4

    Love watching u guys cut in roofs, great job keep the videos coming 💪🏻

  • @Kajpaje
    @Kajpaje 2 года назад +1

    I'm sure these fellas are booked solid.

  • @thesmallnotesduo
    @thesmallnotesduo 2 года назад +1

    Glorious stuff. If these guys were in charge of the country we would all be better off because the don't cause problems, they solve them. They get the job done and done properly.

  • @joshdaviesbespoketimberstr2028
    @joshdaviesbespoketimberstr2028 3 года назад +2

    At 4:50 Dan is about to explain how he checks the hip is correct but the video edit cuts it out. It looks like he is going to use that bit of timber cut to 127mm to check. Does he use that to sit the hip above the plate and scribe it in? I'd be interested to see that bit of footage or have it explained. Thanks in advance.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад +1

      Hi Josh
      You are completely right and I have looked for that bit of footage to understand why it wasn't use. There was a big rain drop on the lens and it went out of focus. We will get Dan to show it as a two minute tip.

    • @joshdaviesbespoketimberstr2028
      @joshdaviesbespoketimberstr2028 3 года назад +1

      That's great, thanks for your reply.

  • @skf957
    @skf957 3 года назад +2

    Never judge a (trigonometry) book by its cover.....
    Clever bloke.

  • @keirstokes1174
    @keirstokes1174 3 года назад +5

    Perfect, I asked for this a while back and you have finally done it. Bravo 👏

  • @kevincrellin7233
    @kevincrellin7233 2 года назад +2

    What a very clever guy. And a joy to listen to. Good to see him teaching the very knowledgable Roger Bisby a few things!!👍🏻🙂

  • @Hussain-ch3pr
    @Hussain-ch3pr 2 года назад +2

    Mad skills mate. Absolutely brilliant 👏

  • @christaylor5291
    @christaylor5291 3 года назад +3

    Is both roof pitches minimal to not affect soffit widths to much?
    Generally on a bastard hipped roof, steeper pitch roof plate has to be higher to compensate for degree difference.
    In this instance the pitches are not that much apart to affect this detail. Looks that way.
    If anyone is interested a book called the “roofers bible” from America explains irregular pitch roof in great detail.
    This is what I ordered to get some insight when I was doing my time.
    A string line is always a very important part of a carpenters arsenal. Always will be. Only tool that can give you a true trajectory of a timber in roofing.
    Great content as always. Well done lads.

    • @redrover9394
      @redrover9394 3 года назад

      100% true, really need to be careful if it was on front of House

  • @davidprice9265
    @davidprice9265 2 года назад +2

    ive had a roof like that when set out on plan using software hip sometimes does not run into the corner of the building also done splayed corners , which me and many a good roofer have scratched heads over , Ive found the roof framing software on cheif architect
    amazing for finding hip and valley runs draw any wall layout , software will try to design roof layout

  • @Chris-zc7my
    @Chris-zc7my 3 года назад +3

    I believe if you have two different pitches and you have kept the HAP ( height above plate) the same on either side of the hip, then I’m afraid you will have conflicting fascia heights as you turn the corner. I would of looked at specified measurements where the fascia lines are to meet on the outside corner thus giving you the correct striking line as to where your hip should of fell on wall plates. It’s hard to explain but the true line of the hip is where there fascia corner is.

    • @christaylor5291
      @christaylor5291 3 года назад +1

      That’s right. When the hip changes on the corner of the plate the go to point is the fascia hip plumb cut. Otherwise you end up bolting on scabs of timber on the side of the hip to make up the corner difference.
      Which is not right. Generally the span on the steeper side is narrower than the true overall span on the shallower side.
      I do think that the run measurements from wall to plate were so minimal that you probably hardly notice it.
      Explaining offsets of hips and varying plate heights would of baffled most.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад

      Maybe that is why they call it a bastard

    • @christaylor5291
      @christaylor5291 3 года назад +1

      @@SkillBuilder exactly that!😉

  • @stuartmeadows2040
    @stuartmeadows2040 2 года назад +2

    Proper professional at work. A great example to show off the intelligence, knowledge and creativity of trade workers.

  • @BM-jy6cb
    @BM-jy6cb 3 года назад +5

    Love these videos. Dad was in the trade and I loved going on jobs with him as a teenager. I ended up as a software developer and have been stuck at home staring at my laptop for the past year. Working outside, even in the wet and cold actually *making* something is starting to look very attractive!

    • @sally6457
      @sally6457 3 года назад +2

      The grass is always greener! Just remember in England the grass is also constantly wet and muddy, and you have to buy your own lawnmower to cut other people's grass,
      Stick with software, and build a shed!

    • @BM-jy6cb
      @BM-jy6cb 3 года назад +2

      @@sally6457 ☺️ There speaks the voice of experience. It's not an easy life, that much I know - part of the reason I didn't follow in his footsteps!

    • @flyingjackcarpentry9394
      @flyingjackcarpentry9394 2 года назад +1

      It's not easy at all.
      These videos make it seem like you just have to learn abit of basic trigonometry and buy few powertools and everything falls into place.
      (Which I did, so I know it doesnt work like that)
      It would be nice if it was the case.
      But 99% out a hundred, there's tonnes of factors to take into consideration.
      The building isn't square, the plates aren't level, the timber isn't square or straight, the pitch of the original roof varies because its old and rafters begin to sag...
      It would be bloody lovely if I could just take a few measurements from the plates, go down to my saw and pile of timber, use the ready reckoner/rafter scales and cut everything on the ground, carry it up and fit it together.
      If your plates are even 5mm out of square then nothing will work perfectly.
      You might be able to twist a few bits in here or there but eventually you'll end up having to recut things at a slightly different pitch or length.
      Which wastes materials and time and ultimately costs you money.
      Bricklayers lay the plates usually.
      Their tolerance is 8mm in or out.
      Usually alot more coz they know nobody is checking that thoroughly on private work.
      Plus, bedding timber on cement is a stupid idea in my opinion
      But nobody want to pay for a chippy to come set the plates properly with wedges and mechanical fixings
      Certainly not the brickies if it will highlight how out of square the whole extention has been built.
      But to be fair, I couldnt imagine doing anything else.
      I love cutting in roofs.

  • @traian23us
    @traian23us 3 года назад +2

    I’m a plumber by trade and always wanted to be a roofer, nothing is more rewarding when you look back and say I did that. Geometry can be head scratching for most of us

  • @paulmcgrath6324
    @paulmcgrath6324 3 года назад +3

    Pleasure to watch a craftsmen at work.👌

  • @AltaMirage
    @AltaMirage 3 года назад +2

    Your videos are just excellent, thanks! By the way... I commented on a previous vid of yours relating to stormdry cream. Since then I've had an interesting experience. I was trying to prevent drainage through jointing compound into under street cellars opposite a lower ground. After jointing them with a sika jointing compound, I used Resiblock paving sealant over 90% the pavers and joints. Then I thought to try the Stormdry cream on the joints, to help seal them completely, in the "water off a duck's back" way I mentioned in my earlier comment. I used the stormdry cream on half the paving joints... and what happened was extraordinary... on testing, the water, which had barely been sinking through the jointing compound after application of resiblock... suddenly started to disappear MUCH FASTER than EITHER the areas treated with both, OR the untreated jointing compound! So I was trying to figure out why when my best mate, who is much better at chemistry than I am, suggested the following which makes sense to me, and since you are a science oriented kinda guy, you might find interesting: the stormdry likely works by a chemistry that exploits a molecule with a hydrophobic and hydrophilic orientation, so one side attracts water, the other side repels it. LIkely there is a rather similar chemistry in the resiblock. So when I painted the stormdy on top of the resiblock... instead of the hydrophilic side sticking DOWN onto the grains of sand, and the hydrophobic sticking UP, the opposite happened. THe hydrophobid bonded to the hydrophobic, leaving the stormdry ass-backwards which instead of turning it into a hydrophobic duck's back, turned it into a wetting agent/wicking compound. Anyhow, thought you might find that interesting. GREAT channel, mate!

  • @Dannywoodworks
    @Dannywoodworks 2 года назад +1

    This is fun to watch
    I use my calculator because it’s faster
    But this is how I learned how to frame cut up roofs

  • @garyhiggins4722
    @garyhiggins4722 3 года назад +2

    Nice one, I have done a lot of these, but set them out from back of fascia to keep bell cast on the tiles the same.

  • @qw5068
    @qw5068 3 года назад +3

    Love the video, love the background music 0:50

  • @southdevonhomes-jonnystand4039
    @southdevonhomes-jonnystand4039 2 года назад +1

    Nice roof, get a scaffold up though so much easier.

  • @chickendale
    @chickendale 3 года назад +2

    I did one recently like this but also had different height on wall plate on either side by approx 100mm. It did throw the hip off the corner a good bit which looked very odd. Took a good bit of head scratching to get it right I can tell you. Hip was 6m long so would've been expensive one to redo if wrong.

  • @boyziejon
    @boyziejon 3 года назад +1

    Me too and I’m 74 , always recognise a craftsman at work.

  • @jimjam1934
    @jimjam1934 3 года назад +2

    Good job Dan and nice to see the top plate under the rafters and a birdsmouth taking the load.

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      We did set it up so it was the same birdsmouth as where it is fixed to the pole plate.
      Thanks Jim.

  • @martind6838
    @martind6838 2 года назад +1

    Does this apply to valley rafters as well ?

  • @redstihl9027
    @redstihl9027 2 года назад +2

    Lovely setup of tools going on here 🙌

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  2 года назад +1

      Long time no see. hope you are well

    • @redstihl9027
      @redstihl9027 2 года назад +1

      @@SkillBuilder ah thanks mate, still always watching 👍🏼 met Dan and robin clevett last Friday at toolfair 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @paulyoull5472
    @paulyoull5472 3 года назад +2

    Dan, your knowledge is endless. It maybe a bastard hip for you but every plumb cut is very tight. You are a pure genius. I could watch it 100 times and still have no clue how you worked it out. 🤣

  • @iantarncarpentry4285
    @iantarncarpentry4285 3 года назад +4

    More videos with Dan please! I’m going to have to watch this video a few times to get my head around doing a bastard hip! Although I feel like a do it on every hip I do, haha!

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +2

      Thanks Ian , hopefully more soon. Hope the roof is coming on well. 😉

    • @iantarncarpentry4285
      @iantarncarpentry4285 3 года назад +2

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. it’s coming along nicely, thank you. Your roofing square is has come in very handy, and the App is so good! 👍

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +2

      @@iantarncarpentry4285 look forward to seeing some photos on the Insta.
      👍🏻

    • @iantarncarpentry4285
      @iantarncarpentry4285 3 года назад +2

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. I’ll take some shots tomorrow, and then post some up!

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      @@iantarncarpentry4285 📸🏠😉

  • @derekmay33
    @derekmay33 3 года назад +2

    I love watching these videos, I've great respect for these lads. Hard grafters cutting rafters in the pouring rain too.

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      Thanks Derek. We was lucky to cut inside so just quick in and out to pitch it.

  • @rjwoodbutcher7648
    @rjwoodbutcher7648 3 года назад +1

    Not a dig, just intrigued. How come you’ve birdsmouthed over the the top plate? If it was an up and over roof you wouldn’t do that on the ridge?

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      The great chap I was working with, Aaron , wanted it birdsmouth over the top ridge as he’s had problems before with local inspectors. Personally I usually just have a full plumb cut against the ridge.

  • @shaunbrennan8739
    @shaunbrennan8739 3 года назад +1

    Just a quick one, have done many bastard hips before and I always pull a string line down through the corner of the brickwork and NOT the corner of the wall plates. (The true corner of the build?!) Therefore the hip rafter won’t sit in the corner of the wall plates it will be slightly to one side, giving a different HAP on both pitches (assuming both wall plates have been fixed down the same dimension from the face brickwork) I can’t see how Dan has managed to keep the HAP the same on both sides....with the hip NOT coming down at 45degrees in plan to a 90degree corner it’s surly impossible that both sides of the hips birds mouth end up with the same HAP?? Love that roofing square Dan, great bit of kit

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      Hi Shaun,
      We had some scope of where the pole plates went. They only went in to get over the metal RSJ.
      There was approximately 6 degrees different so we set the rafters up with the same HAP.
      With the roofing squares it was easier to set up.

  • @SteveHit1
    @SteveHit1 3 года назад +2

    Beautiful work and outstanding craftsmanship. What a great video- thanks!

  • @-DJ-DK-
    @-DJ-DK- 3 года назад +1

    I like your tool belt what's it called

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      I’m sure the nail bag is from McGuire and Nichols. It wasn’t silly money years ago.
      My hammer holder is from occidental, a American company, which is available in the UK.
      It’s very good, as it holds pencils and a knife too.

  • @chunmunsharma6530
    @chunmunsharma6530 3 года назад +1

    hello sir

  • @noskills9577
    @noskills9577 3 года назад +1

    More witchcraft 😂

  • @jimgeelan5949
    @jimgeelan5949 3 года назад +2

    Sorry it’s raining we can’t work 😳😳😂

  • @disklamer
    @disklamer 19 дней назад

    If I know my builders the whole purpose of videos about complicated roofs is the golden opportunity to put the word Bastard in the thumbnail.
    I'll get my coat.

  • @TheSudsy
    @TheSudsy 3 года назад +3

    trigonometry and pythagoras theorem must be two of the most useful disciplines in real life. Algebra for computer programming.

    • @sally6457
      @sally6457 3 года назад

      Even more useful than looking both ways before crossing the road? Or punctuality? Self restraint?
      🤔 😂😂

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      I don’t understand algebra.. I’ll stick to banging in nails..

    • @sally6457
      @sally6457 3 года назад +1

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. banging in nails is a perfect example of Newton's 3rd law.
      Your more intelligent than you give yourself credit for. 👍

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      @@sally6457 thank you. 🙏.

  • @cliveclapham6451
    @cliveclapham6451 3 года назад +1

    Trickanometry
    What will they think of next 🤯
    My vote goes for *SELF-LAYING-BRICKS*

  • @bobf1290
    @bobf1290 3 года назад +2

    Proper chippy 👌

  • @CrazyRabb1t
    @CrazyRabb1t 3 года назад +1

    Given the height above plate was the same for both roofs at the birds mouth - won’t the eaves height be different at the toe of the rafter? I.e the fascia heights will be different?

  • @jamestutt2678
    @jamestutt2678 3 года назад +2

    Where did you get the double rack attachment for the paslode please?

    • @gerardfarrell3135
      @gerardfarrell3135 3 года назад

      Yes please id love to find this it would be a great help

  • @rileylow4806
    @rileylow4806 3 года назад +5

    As an apprentice carpenter, would love to see Dan's trigonometry method for a irregular hip roof...another video would be great.
    Thanks Riley

  • @denty32
    @denty32 3 года назад +2

    Head scratcher Dan, I bloody hate them.
    Cracking job as always 👏👏

  • @PAWANGAJULA
    @PAWANGAJULA 2 года назад

    I want the exact framing gun link pleaseeee

  • @insaneseinn
    @insaneseinn 3 года назад +2

    That's a massive calculator you got there😁 I do love it that a roofer knows trigonometry - Love the content!

  • @michaelfreeman8458
    @michaelfreeman8458 3 года назад +1

    It would seem that in your country, carpenters are valued as true craftsmen.

  • @willsimpson5374
    @willsimpson5374 3 года назад +3

    I’m a lead worker by trade and it’s lovely to see people like Dan and robin take such pride in their work

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      Thanks Will. 👍🏻

    • @jaser461986
      @jaser461986 2 года назад +2

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. So if it’s 38 one side and 52 the other, I guess that means that is applied to the top plumb cut of the hip also? 38/52 instead of your usual 45/45?
      Amazing to watch as always! The knowledge is inspiring!

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 2 года назад +1

      Hi @@jaser461986 yes. We was lucky that the de Walt saw cut at 52 degrees.
      Thanks for watching, and the great comment. 🙏🏼

  • @pcatful
    @pcatful 2 месяца назад

    I have an old trades book on roof framing and the author, a seasoned framer constantly pointed out that the person who masters framing various roofs has truly shown his ability as a builder.

  • @peterbell4154
    @peterbell4154 3 года назад +2

    👍thumbs up Dan hope you enjoyed the Suffolk rain I thought I would share with you good job.

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      Cheers Pete. Yes loved a bit of the wet stuff.
      Hope you have got your hair cut now.. 😉

    • @peterbell4154
      @peterbell4154 3 года назад +1

      Yes thanks Dan ,Einstein has left the building unfortunately along with his brains all I'm left with is being scalped look😦 keep up the good work I like using secant cos and tans really found it interesting over the years. All the best.

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      @@peterbell4154 grass don’t grow on a busy street. 🤓. Tangents are great for our work.
      And to you Peter. 🤙🏻

  • @alanpowell24
    @alanpowell24 Месяц назад

    A true British tradesman - working through a heavy shower……….

  • @billydickson1521
    @billydickson1521 3 года назад +3

    Looks great , do you end up with a difference in height with the soffits because one side is steeper than the other ?

    • @RobNorman08
      @RobNorman08 3 года назад +2

      By keeping the HAP (height above plate) the same then the fascia will end up the same, but you are right in thinking the soffits will be different depths because the shallower pitched roof has further to travel, i've done a number of irregular hipped roofs and they are a pain!

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      No, not on this roof. The soffit was different widths tho.
      Thanks.

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      @@RobNorman08 they sure are a pain.. 👍🏻

    • @billydickson1521
      @billydickson1521 3 года назад +1

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. did one side of the Jack rafters have to be cut by hand because of the angle on the splay cut ?

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      @@billydickson1521 I was lucky as one side was 52 degrees and the de Walt saw went over to that.
      Roger did film it all, and the plumb cut on the hip where I cut one side at 38 then I cut down the splay cut to get the 52 degrees cut, however I think the rain got on the lense...

  • @fireblaster9961
    @fireblaster9961 3 года назад +2

    I think dans done this before 🔥🔫

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      Only a few times. Regular hips are so much better to cut in. 😂.
      Thanks for the comments. 😉

  • @stephenwatson1873
    @stephenwatson1873 3 года назад +2

    Great tutorial video Dan, shame about the weather,

  • @lukehaworth5789
    @lukehaworth5789 11 месяцев назад

    Fantastic job guys l. I do this myself but it’s always good to learn other peoples methods.

  • @andrewhartley3
    @andrewhartley3 3 года назад +1

    School maths can be useful after all. Can you please show us how you apply calculus in your next video thank 😂

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      Trigonometry means something, you get a answer. I don’t understand algebra though.
      Good idea. 👍🏻

  • @paulcollin1398
    @paulcollin1398 2 месяца назад

    I'm a chippy 40 yrs and cut a roof with 3 different pitches

  • @galvanizedgnome
    @galvanizedgnome 3 года назад +2

    Soh cah toa

  • @tonysoprano3691
    @tonysoprano3691 3 года назад +3

    Pure class dan as usual👌

  • @eppzn4179
    @eppzn4179 3 года назад +1

    This is cool to watch, here in BC, Canada. Measurements give me a headache though, “127mm” ughh haha that’s just a 2x6 bro. 5.5 inches easier on my builder brain

  • @R08mky
    @R08mky 3 года назад +2

    I do enjoy a good roof. Proper job 👍

  • @jaser461986
    @jaser461986 Год назад

    What would happen on the inside of the ceiling where the hip hangs down more than the common rafters?

  • @bazbaz3035
    @bazbaz3035 3 года назад +2

    This guys seems a very good carpenter I would love to have a days work on the roof learning some of his skills

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      Thanks Baz, much appreciated.

    • @bazbaz3035
      @bazbaz3035 3 года назад

      I like the look of the rafter square you have in your picture where can I get that?

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      @@bazbaz3035 the big metal one?

    • @bazbaz3035
      @bazbaz3035 3 года назад +1

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. yes

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      @@bazbaz3035 that’s my square.. check out www.essential-carpenter-tools.co.uk
      I’ve done a few videos with Skill builder where you can see it being used in more detail.
      Thanks.

  • @daves4026
    @daves4026 3 года назад +1

    Just a bit more detail would be nice awesome work

  • @michaelcotton928
    @michaelcotton928 Год назад

    Would like to see you do a inverted hip. Not a video on RUclips. Hard

  • @Lionsraws66
    @Lionsraws66 3 года назад +1

    Thank goodness for experience. Great job 👏

  • @amazing451
    @amazing451 3 года назад +1

    Great to see you back, but what a bastard job you've picked, that opposite figure is that the rise from wallplate to birdsmouth, also how did you work out the splay cuts on those Jack's ? Was that with the iPad.

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад +1

      Hi Kevin, the opposite measurement is the rise from the wall plate. I measured to the top of ridge then subtracted the hight above plate at the birdsmouth.
      To get the splay cuts I pulled the line and marked it in the wall plate. Usually it’s 45, however this one when measured with my speed square it was 38 degrees one side and 52 on the other.
      Lucky Aaron’s Skill saw went over to 52 degrees, the other I cut on the chop saw.
      Thanks for watching.

    • @amazing451
      @amazing451 3 года назад +1

      @@Ultimate-roofing-square. Thanks for that, looking forward to seeing you again soon

    • @Ultimate-roofing-square.
      @Ultimate-roofing-square. 3 года назад

      @@amazing451 no problem Kevin. Roger did film it all however I think the rain got in the way..
      Hopefully more videos to come.

  • @johndejure9849
    @johndejure9849 11 месяцев назад

    all jobs are a Bastard when yer miss with the hammer, and hit the thumb!

  • @express375
    @express375 3 года назад +1

    Could you askeyerman please, how often does he make an error where a bit of wood is to short or angle wrong? I need a refrence to measure how dumb i should feel. A dumbbob?

    • @sally6457
      @sally6457 3 года назад +1

      If in doubt, lay the timber in place, roughly Mark, and cut a little at a time,
      String lines are really helpful.
      Take the time to look at any and ALL planning/construction drawings. There's alot of detail you can use such as measuring angles Ang rough lengths (don't be scared of using a ruler and pencil to extend the drawing lines to help get more accurate measurements)

    • @tomsmith9048
      @tomsmith9048 3 года назад +1

      I'm sure he said that in the video 🙄🔨

    • @sally6457
      @sally6457 3 года назад

      @@tomsmith9048 your point being?
      Your either being rude to someone who asked for advice, or rude to someone trying to help a person who asked for advice?🔧🖕

    • @express375
      @express375 3 года назад

      @@tomsmith9048 thanks Tom, how many times a month was the static bro? 🙂♥️

    • @express375
      @express375 3 года назад +1

      @@sally6457 Thanks Sally. Seems like an over complex system to shed water off a roof. 🙂♥️

  • @mine6312
    @mine6312 2 года назад

    Framing with a kapex don't see that often around me lol

  • @MrBez007
    @MrBez007 3 года назад +1

    Some old hags carry a huge tub of ale.
    The most important thing I learnt at school!

  • @keithbrueton
    @keithbrueton 3 года назад +1

    Now theres a master at work

  • @twistyturd
    @twistyturd 3 года назад +1

    🤣 proper geeza

  • @johnf1973
    @johnf1973 3 года назад +1

    Exceptional tradesman 👍

  • @19lucus88
    @19lucus88 2 месяца назад

    Just curious... because Height above plate was kept equal, but roof was at different pitches on each side of the hip, what did that do to the soffit/facia line? Was it an unequal overhang on either side of the building?? I've never managed to get a hip blade to go through the corner of the wall plates on an irregular hip and keep facia/soffit equal on both sides.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  2 месяца назад +1

      I think the soffit has to be wider on one side

  • @jamessillence4351
    @jamessillence4351 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant video cheers

  • @HandySam
    @HandySam 3 года назад +1

    Love these roof construction videos! I have had to watch this one a few times already this morning ! Cheers
    Also 8:08 i see a glimpse of the dewalt 54v circular saw’s. Any chance for a review on those? Ive got the DCS579 and wanna see how it stacks up as my only comparison is 18v makita saws.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад

      We would love to do a review on that saw but unfortunately it has been stolen.

    • @HandySam
      @HandySam 3 года назад

      @@SkillBuilder bastards!!