Great review Alastair! Nearing 300 miles with the carbon plated Endorphin Edge and these shoes look like a great change/bargain! Keep up the excellent work bud!
If you have any questions at all, just let me know. And if you need help choosing the best shoes for you and your needs, just reach out - I'm always happy to help my subscribers! -Alastair ✌🏼
Thanks Alastair! I could use your advice. New runner, just began road running seriously this past fall and looking to add some trail running to the mix when winter ends (Mid-Atlantic US). To this end, because I generally get on with the brand and they were on end-of-run markdown, I picked up a pair of Asics Trabuco Max 3s. I think I want to supplement them with a lower stacked, more nimble shoe for more technical terrain. Any suggestions would be received with gratitude!
@MLHunt I mean this would be a great option there but my favorite nimble trail running shoes right now that can handle anything has to be the MTL Long Sky 2. It’s awesome on technical trails, it’s fast and very lightweight. Here’s my review of it: ruclips.net/video/7Zzlbe4ogg0/видео.htmlsi=iRqATqcI-Th_SCg0
Great review, purchased these today, wanted a more comfortable cushioned sole for ultras which have road sections and hard mountain logging tracks, looking forward to getting out in them.
They do have a forefoot rock plate, that has always been great leading off the toe. The peregrine is the Swiss Army knife of trail shoes. I wish hokka, INOV8 and others did a 4mm drop shoe with 5mm lugs, as that’s a perfect combination for uk trails.
@@trailandkaleI was looking at the new trail Talon the other day, but thought the 6mm against the 4mm height was not best for me. When I put the Peragrines on, either in the Cheviots or the lake district, I know I can run anything normal or technical.
@@trailandkale The new trail Talon. It's a 6mm drop and 6mm lugs, saying that I have just bought them an hour ago 😂. Love the fit of them and the space and will be perfect for here in the Cheviots, lakes and North Yorkshire.
I’m primarily a road runner but this past year, I really ventured into the trails with the endorphin rift. The PWRTRAC outsole on those is great in everything except wet rocks. I’ve taken my PUMA velocity 3s on the same trails when wet and don’t slide on the same wet rocks. That part aside, I think it’s a good outsole. However, I welcome saucony introducing vibram in 2025 to their trail lineup.
@wooleyspidermonkey interesting, I didn’t have this experience with the Peregrine 15. Not had any experience with earlier versions, what compound is used on the pair you have?
@@trailandkale just the regular PWRTRAC outsole. I have a pair of Peregrine 12, but I have tried the 14s, and they felt the same aside from a shorter and wider fit.
@wooleyspidermonkey thanks for sharing - I did test these on wet rocks and muddy sections and found them to hold up well - maybe it’s a new lug pattern that’s helping. Either way I’m going to be taking them out quite a bit because I’m really enjoying them, so if I do notice anything off about the outsole I’ll definitely report it here
Trying to decide between this one and saucony ride TR2, I need more like a road to trail running shoe, with good response/cushion for long distance runs
Nice review. How do these compare to the merrell longsky2 and vectiv sky 2 ? I'm looking for a shoe for technical races between 20-30k and have narrowed it down to these three.
thank you! The Long Sky 2 is more refined for racing - and I love it! The Peregrine is an all mountain trail shoe thats arguably more versatile for training miles or longer races. For technical of 20k-30k, id choose the MTL Long Sky 2 Matryx everytime! Check out my review on the channel. -A
I can see why… they both very similar, both $140 and both damn good trail shoes! They’re so similar I had to write a post to help other decide which on is best for them: www.trailandkale.com/shoe-reviews/brooks-cascadia-18-vs-saucony-peregrine-15/ -Alastair
Given the choice, I think I would take the Peregrine 15. But oh so close and be sure to read my post in case one has the feature that matters most to you
@@trailandkale is it simply preference or you think there is a performance difference? Also last question I’ve never ran in 4mm shoes before. Any advantages vs the 8mm drop of cascaida? Thanks for any info.
@Coffeyman777 in a nutshell, the advantages are better form and control once you learn to run with low drop but read this to learn the full scope: www.trailandkale.com/tips/running-shoe-drops-explained/ - the hat article I shared will help you decide on the peregrine or cascadia
@@trailandkale so let’s say I’m using these for more playing softball lol not trail running Read article. Great insight on both shoes. Almost made it harder lol
Do you think the Peregrine 15 would work well for packed and/or fresh snow, whether on the snowy roads or trails? Or would you suggest a different trail shoe for snow?
For running in the winter, I swear by VJ shoes from Finland. The ice hero is very light with something like 16 metal spikes for ice. The XTER and ACE models are also especially designed for running in the winter.
@kgenest100 thanks for sharing! Hopefully this helps some snow runners, although I can’t personal speak to their quality / performance as I haven’t tested them before.
There arent any mountains in the West of England! Just lots of very muddy hills! How do you think these would handle those conditions? Or maybe look elsewhere?
North, mid, or south west? They should do pretty well! The deep lugs and low stack should give you control. Sloppy mud is just something that very few trail running shoes can truly conquer unfortunately
Look forward to the review. The Trailtalon is on my radar. I'm in the South West at the foot of the Quantock Hills. Beautiful scenery and great trail running!!! @@trailandkale
I think you are over, emphasizing cushioning ability. Instead of their power run I wish they would put some of their newer lighter more cushion midsole material in there same stack height just needs newer, updated foam, and it would be the perfect shoe.
I think you are both right. PWRRUN is notoriously firm (and outdated, even for EVA foams tbh). However, this is what you want on the trail...well this is what I want on the trail anyway. I tried to run trails on soft cushioned shoes and I always rolled my ankles lol. PWRRUN does tend to soften a bit after some good use at least.
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Great review Alastair!
Nearing 300 miles with the carbon plated Endorphin Edge and these shoes look like a great change/bargain!
Keep up the excellent work bud!
Thanks mate - appreciate that! I still need to try the Edge!
If you have any questions at all, just let me know. And if you need help choosing the best shoes for you and your needs, just reach out - I'm always happy to help my subscribers! -Alastair ✌🏼
Thanks Alastair! I could use your advice. New runner, just began road running seriously this past fall and looking to add some trail running to the mix when winter ends (Mid-Atlantic US). To this end, because I generally get on with the brand and they were on end-of-run markdown, I picked up a pair of Asics Trabuco Max 3s. I think I want to supplement them with a lower stacked, more nimble shoe for more technical terrain. Any suggestions would be received with gratitude!
@MLHunt I mean this would be a great option there but my favorite nimble trail running shoes right now that can handle anything has to be the MTL Long Sky 2. It’s awesome on technical trails, it’s fast and very lightweight. Here’s my review of it: ruclips.net/video/7Zzlbe4ogg0/видео.htmlsi=iRqATqcI-Th_SCg0
Great review, purchased these today, wanted a more comfortable cushioned sole for ultras which have road sections and hard mountain logging tracks, looking forward to getting out in them.
Thank you! Hope you enjoy them!
recently bought these. only taken them on a muddy flat trail so far.
How are you liking them so far?
Excellent review!
Thank you 🙏🏻
They do have a forefoot rock plate, that has always been great leading off the toe. The peregrine is the Swiss Army knife of trail shoes. I wish hokka, INOV8 and others did a 4mm drop shoe with 5mm lugs, as that’s a perfect combination for uk trails.
The Hoka Zinal or Speedgoat are the closest… and for Inov8, the TrailTalon speed.
@@trailandkaleI was looking at the new trail Talon the other day, but thought the 6mm against the 4mm height was not best for me. When I put the Peragrines on, either in the Cheviots or the lake district, I know I can run anything normal or technical.
@davebrown1100 which talon?
@@trailandkale The new trail Talon. It's a 6mm drop and 6mm lugs, saying that I have just bought them an hour ago 😂. Love the fit of them and the space and will be perfect for here in the Cheviots, lakes and North Yorkshire.
@davebrown1100 I haven’t tried them yet, only the TrailTalon Speed, who ch is not dissimilar to the peregrine 15 in some ways.
Looks like a good competitor for the Salomon Genesis (non-SLAB version). Thanks for the review.
It is actually quite similar actually but the Peregrine 15 wins on comfort for me.
I'd like to see a Vectiv Sky 2 review when those come out, a comparison with these (much cheaper) shoes would be interesting!
I’ll see if TNF can send a pair.
Thank you for another great review. will you be comparing this one to Saucony Xodus Ultra 4?
Thank you! I’ll try and get hold of it
@ thank you 🙏
I’m primarily a road runner but this past year, I really ventured into the trails with the endorphin rift. The PWRTRAC outsole on those is great in everything except wet rocks. I’ve taken my PUMA velocity 3s on the same trails when wet and don’t slide on the same wet rocks.
That part aside, I think it’s a good outsole. However, I welcome saucony introducing vibram in 2025 to their trail lineup.
Yeah this show with Vibram megagrip would be an upgrade and a half, but it would probably cost more
I found the grip on the Peregrine to be so bad anytime things got wet that I had to retire mine to a hiking and yard work shoe
@wooleyspidermonkey interesting, I didn’t have this experience with the Peregrine 15. Not had any experience with earlier versions, what compound is used on the pair you have?
@@trailandkale just the regular PWRTRAC outsole. I have a pair of Peregrine 12, but I have tried the 14s, and they felt the same aside from a shorter and wider fit.
@wooleyspidermonkey thanks for sharing - I did test these on wet rocks and muddy sections and found them to hold up well - maybe it’s a new lug pattern that’s helping. Either way I’m going to be taking them out quite a bit because I’m really enjoying them, so if I do notice anything off about the outsole I’ll definitely report it here
Trying to decide between this one and saucony ride TR2,
I need more like a road to trail running shoe, with good response/cushion for long distance runs
My favorite road to trail shoe right now its the Nike Pegasus Trail 5: ruclips.net/video/rwJAtrVjLJE/видео.html
Nice review. How do these compare to the merrell longsky2 and vectiv sky 2 ? I'm looking for a shoe for technical races between 20-30k and have narrowed it down to these three.
thank you! The Long Sky 2 is more refined for racing - and I love it! The Peregrine is an all mountain trail shoe thats arguably more versatile for training miles or longer races. For technical of 20k-30k, id choose the MTL Long Sky 2 Matryx everytime! Check out my review on the channel. -A
I’m going back and forth between these and the cascadia 18. Any opinion on which is better?
I can see why… they both very similar, both $140 and both damn good trail shoes! They’re so similar I had to write a post to help other decide which on is best for them: www.trailandkale.com/shoe-reviews/brooks-cascadia-18-vs-saucony-peregrine-15/ -Alastair
Given the choice, I think I would take the Peregrine 15. But oh so close and be sure to read my post in case one has the feature that matters most to you
@@trailandkale is it simply preference or you think there is a performance difference? Also last question I’ve never ran in 4mm shoes before. Any advantages vs the 8mm drop of cascaida? Thanks for any info.
@Coffeyman777 in a nutshell, the advantages are better form and control once you learn to run with low drop but read this to learn the full scope: www.trailandkale.com/tips/running-shoe-drops-explained/ - the hat article I shared will help you decide on the peregrine or cascadia
@@trailandkale so let’s say I’m using these for more playing softball lol not trail running
Read article. Great insight on both shoes. Almost made it harder lol
Do you think the Peregrine 15 would work well for packed and/or fresh snow, whether on the snowy roads or trails? Or would you suggest a different trail shoe for snow?
I’d recommend a shoe with Vibram megagrip and traction lugs. You may also need shoe chains for traction on icy stuff
For running in the winter, I swear by VJ shoes from Finland. The ice hero is very light with something like 16 metal spikes for ice. The XTER and ACE models are also especially designed for running in the winter.
@kgenest100 thanks for sharing! Hopefully this helps some snow runners, although I can’t personal speak to their quality / performance as I haven’t tested them before.
do you think these could be good for light forrest trails ?
They would be ideal for forest trails 🌲
There arent any mountains in the West of England! Just lots of very muddy hills! How do you think these would handle those conditions? Or maybe look elsewhere?
North, mid, or south west? They should do pretty well! The deep lugs and low stack should give you control. Sloppy mud is just something that very few trail running shoes can truly conquer unfortunately
Look at Inov8 Trail Talons.
@RowOfMushyTiT I have the TrailTalon Speed in for review
Look forward to the review. The Trailtalon is on my radar. I'm in the South West at the foot of the Quantock Hills. Beautiful scenery and great trail running!!! @@trailandkale
Ahh nice! I used to live in Bath! Not too far! Trailtalon Speed review has dropped on the blog and I’ll be filling my video review today :)
I think you are over, emphasizing cushioning ability. Instead of their power run I wish they would put some of their newer lighter more cushion midsole material in there same stack height just needs newer, updated foam, and it would be the perfect shoe.
But then you’re sacrificing on control. Maybe a peregrine 15 max is in order lol
And the price would be 160-170. For 140 id expect powerrun
Yeh exactly, for 140 these are fantastic, and I’ve reviewed a lot of trail shoes
I think you are both right. PWRRUN is notoriously firm (and outdated, even for EVA foams tbh). However, this is what you want on the trail...well this is what I want on the trail anyway.
I tried to run trails on soft cushioned shoes and I always rolled my ankles lol. PWRRUN does tend to soften a bit after some good use at least.
Yeah exactly - firm response gives control