Exposing The TERRIBLE Defense in Today's NBA
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2023
- Charles Barkley went on a rant torching today's NBA and it's lack of defense. Today we dive a little deeper into this subject and see just how bad it really is.
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Since the making of this video we’ve had 2 more 50 point games 😂
Dude, get destroyed: ruclips.net/video/Lhu1MMtaMz0/видео.html
Precisely sir!
You're missing a lot of context here. First, shooting stats in the 1996-97 season at the rim and among all distances is unreliable. FG % that year was 45.5%, and the average percentage at the rim was only 55%. Yet the next year, the first year that there are reliable stooting splits, average FG% was 45% but 63% at the rim. So you shouldn't compare current shooting percentages at the rim to a year where the stats are unreliable. A more fair comparison would be to the 1997-98 season, and yes, there's a significant jump (70% today vs 63% back then). But it's not because of lack of rim protection. In the 1998-99 season, arguably the NBA's worst offensive season, teams averaged 5 blocked shots per game, whereas today the average is 4.7 per game.
The biggest issue is play style. First and foremost is the pace of the game. In the late 90s and early 2000's, the pace was around 90 possessions per game, whereas today the average pace is 99 possessions per game. That means more possessions to shoot, and being played at a higher pace, more fast break baskets which means easier shots at the rim. That's why offensive rating, which accounts for pace, is a more effective measurement of offensive efficiency than point per game. Today's Ortg of 114.4, which is a record high, is only 6 points higher than the 1994-95 season. For comparison, in the 1961-62 season when the league average was 118.8 points per game, the Ortg was only 93.6, which indicates that the higher pace made up for virtually all the difference in the high scoring of that era.
The second difference is the three point shot. One area where players are definitely more skilled at is shooting 3s. Having a center or even a power forward in the 90s shooting 3s was almost unheard of at that time. Dirk Nowitski was the first of the modern stretch 4, a seven footer that could shoot from deep, and from then on more players at every position began shooting 3s. That leads to more points not only because 3 point shots are more efficient shots than midrange or long 2s, but with 4 or 5 players playing on the perimeter, it opens up driving lanes to the basket. In turn that forces shot blockers to play farther away from the perimeter, making it more difficult for them to get to the basket. This is what happened to the Jazz in the playoffs when they had Rudy Gobert. Teams like the Clippers played 5 out and negated Gobert's rim protection.
The rules have had an effect, but it's a bit overhyped. After handchecking was banned in 2004, offensive rating increased by 3 points per game, and remained pretty constant until the 2015-16 season. So the rules account for a small increase during a 12 year span, but don't really account for the 8 point increase that we've seen over the last seven years that have had more or less the same rules. That's where the play style and having more 3 point shooters come into play.
And still we have nobody that comes close to Wilt.
Remember that he AVERAGED 50.4 one season (despite Bill Russell slowing him down into the LOW 40s on average in THEIR 12 games!).
@@rebelranger common sense detected
Until defense comes back to the NBA, I’m not impressed with anyone’s scoring.
When offense was no existent in 2004, I wasn’t impressed by anyone’s defense
@@chrisuncleahmad 04 Pistons. Quit playing.
@@juliusjones2487 2004 was the worst year for NBA offenses
@@chrisuncleahmad probably because of the defensive teams during that era. At that time there were about 7-10 good to great defensive teams. And another 10 or so that were average to good.
@@juliusjones2487 was that good defense or bad offense?
The NBA is disrespecting the legacies of the older generation of players by changing some rules to make it a fast phased less defensive game and by doing so making old players look not great. Such blatant disrespect!
People that was around know the difference. Any stat after the rule changes shouldn't even be in the same book.
It's not about that, it's about the game becoming less entertaining
@@chandlerthebing3472 Adam Silver will tell you it's about making the game MORE entertaining.
There is a REASON I have no use for Adam Silver.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 yeah, it is a big failure, I genuinely just want to watch vintage NBA and actually be on the edge of my seat
@@chandlerthebing3472 What do you mean by being on the edge of your seat? Me personally this is what makes the NFL much more interesting than the NBA It takes incredibly hard work and perseverence to score a touch down, no TD's are given for free.
I'm glad younger hoop fans are actually starting to call this out. Carries, travels and illegal screens are making it too easy to score. High ppg are only spectacular when it's earned
Hard to stop an offensive player when he can carry and travel all over the damn place.
And at the same time. Tweaking rules that make it harder to play defense.
Adam Silver is destroying nba basketball....
It just gets frustrating when the media and current NBA players act like we don't have eyes and can't see the severe lack of defense and BS foul calls.
A ton of people say that "the players are just better" nowadays, I don't get how they can say that with a straight face
Because they don't know basketball rules and are think basketball isn't fair if they don't have a ref call a foul if the can't fairy prance their way to a dunk. Real Basketball in how it was written up to be a sport and people who know the real rules know that the NBA doesn't follow any rules other than kiss the star players or refs butts or we throw u out for good.
I won't be shocked if Wembanyama averaged 30 points as a rookie since we already heard from guys like Giannis and Luka that it is easier to score in the NBA than in Europe
I heard Jordan Iverson Shaq Duncan Kobe McGrady talk about how zones are hard to score on.
I won't be surprised if Shaun Livingston averages 25 ppg in the 90's because Jordan said that zones would have changed his career.
@@dynamic6645 Frank Ntilikina was a beast in Europe and shitting in the NBA
thats only cause its a more team based game and they allow goaltending.
@Dynamic Zones without the handcheck isn't really harder to score against. It makes you take more long range shots but the league adjusted to that hence why it is the way it is today. The kicker and most important thing is that HARDLY ANY ZONE DEFENSE IS PLAYED.
Adam Silver is CONVINCED that more points equals more money.
Maybe he is right; but maybe, he has not anticipated DIMINISHING RETURNS.
It is only a matter of time before audiences get tired of offensive barrages and begin to long for BASKETBALL!
People dont really watch whole games anymore, so we're already there.
I've been tired of it since about the Harden in Houston days.
Oh please. You think audiences long for less points? Nobody wants to go back to that 75-70 garbage from way back when
I haven't watched in years because basketball is both offense and defense. This is trash
That's a merchants way of thinking.
You can’t play defense when the guy you’re trying to guard is allowed to travel double dribble,carry..I would be a pro if these rules were around when I was prime.
Facts
They also are allow too much space and freedom of movement
This is a big reason why regular season basketball is unwatchable
Delete the "regular season", replace it with "NBA", and you'd be a LOT more correct.
Definitely the reason I stopped watching. I just check the box scores the next day to see who's the latest person to score 50. 😂
I'll still watch the playoffs tho.
What defense?????? They rarely call fouls and the traveling and carrying calls has all but disappeared.
Part of the travel issues is that up to 4 steps is now LEGAL under the 2009 revision to the travel + gather rules - so they're NOT travelling nearly as often than under the older "1 step, no such thing as a gather" rules that other levels of basketball STILL PLAY AT.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Thanks for the info.
in the 90s scoring 20 points meant something
@@soundofeighthooves in the 2000s we glorified mediocre players that scored 18 points
(From the UK) I watched NBA between 93-99, then had a 20 year hiatus from the sport then started watching it again. Took me a couple of years to get used to today's NBA, I thought where the Eff is the defense lol?!?!
Watch how players who don’t have the ball move and how the defense reacts to them. Offense is greater and defense just gets overshadowed by how good offense is now
@@craig2069 You respond to a lot of messages.
I wish you knew what you were talking about.
It's obvious you are only used to watching this new era of defence-less basketball, and trying to come up with reasons as to why it's superior to the past era.
The NBA made a deal with the devil, the day they chose for LeBum to be the chosen one.
His skills were sub-par compared to the previous chosen ones, and in order for their new messiah to be effective, they had to change the rules.
Those rule changes have hurt the league.
I refuse to watch any game where Lebum plays, I already know what I'm going to see... a punishment will be laid upon anyone guarding LeBum, an absurd amount of fouls that will disrupt the flow of the game, which it will make it painful to watch.
@@craig2069 Players that move when they don't have the ball has ALWAYS been a mark of good teams.
Consider the 1985-1986 Celtics as a PRIME example - it was NOT just Bird doing that.
@@csar2976 It wasn't the NBA.
It was Adam Silver and his focus on "push star players".
@@csar2976hes probably a bot created by the NBA to cover up the fact that they ban hand checkin and made a defensive 3 second rule.
Defense today does suck smdh
No, the players aren't more skilled, there's just less defense. Less defense equates to more points being scored. I agree with you 100%.
I say this all the time. If you put these same rules, or lack thereof, in any other era, guys back then would be doing the same thing.
Even me as an ordinary person not even playing basketball that much, I can say that the defense today is abysmal at best, I miss the days when players would struggle to get a point out due to the tough defense.
Don’t say that new generation will say offence is too great and defence is too great lol more advanced
@@yoshihiroitabashi I don’t miss the days when players shot bricks and everyone made excuses for “tough defense” disguised as bad offense
NBA Commissioner needs to UNBAN Defense!!!! Bring back Hand-checking and get rid of the 3 second rule. I'm not saying to bring back Thug-Ball of the 90's, just to un-ban Defense. This scoring only league is Unwatchable!! It's nothing but a 3pt shooting contest!! BORING!!!!!!!!!
Even NBA players themselves are saying it is TOO EASY to score in today's NBA.
Nobody wants to watch centers camp in the paint and dunk the ball every possession.
So you want to ban offense?
@@craig2069 -- You afraid that your favorite player will drive to the basket and actually find Post players... IN the Post??
Honestly, I'm willing to compromise... at the VERY LEAST, bring back Hand-Checking. I guarantee you scoring will suddenly... go down.
@@MasterSpade All these calls are in one playoff game, where this supposed *"paint camping"* was happening: ruclips.net/video/6v_PaSn2Ygo/видео.html
@@craig2069 Somebody is afraid of no easy basketball era.
If anything, it was harder for MJ and Kobe to put up 35 per game back in their time than it would be to score 40 now because of the quality of the defense and the rule changes that have been made to incentivize more and more offense since the mid 00s
It was WAY harder
Honestly in today's NBA, I think me at 5'7 could average a bucket or two.
Is it possible that through the progression of the game that players are more evolved in talented? Isn’t it more competitive now even as a kid, All those AAU’s that didn’t exist 30 years ago.
@@commonsense3921 I don't think that talent is the right word. Nutrition and conditioning knowledge is more advanced, players have focused on specific skillsets that are tailor made for today's NBA, the NBA rules encourage a certain playstyle. Foreign competition has dramatically caught up to the American basketball talent pool. If those players from older eras grew up and trained in today's NBA environment, many would still be dominant players today. The financial motive is much higher so there would be more focus on training basketball skills at a young age.
JxmyHighroller, 2Raw4 Sports, and even Jonny Arnett has made videos on how bad these teams play no defense today and all the traveling that the NBA has been allowing which is why the scoring is at an all time high since the 60s. So Uncut Hoops is the 4th basketball channel talking about this!! There has already been 16 games where players have scored over 50 points or more for this season and the numbers will most likely keep going up because of how the NBA rules are today!! ANd I wouldn't surprised if someone breaks Kobe Byrant's 81 point game this season.
So where was the defense when kobe dropped 81 ?
@@craig2069 on thr floor guarding him
@@craig2069 no one couldn't stop kobe and it's not like they were not guarding him
@@craig2069 Kobe had a rare "insanely hot" night, in addition to his usual "push the volume".
One of the uncommon cases where he shot better than 50% from the floor (rather than his very common 60%+ BRICKS).
@@craig2069 worst defence back then is better than the defence today. Playing iso vs zone d vs pick and roll with the floor spread. No comparison.
Today's NBA is just high level pickup game 🏀!
Today's NBA, The Glorified G-League.
The 90's was an era of grocery baggers and garbage men
@@dynamic6645 Other than the 3, pretty much any 1990s team was tougher and played INFINITELY better defense than any modern team.
Today's teams would get TRASHED under the rules and enforcement of the 1990s - it wouldn't be pretty.
@@dynamic6645 Today's NBA are just a bunch of guys that can't play defense, don't know what a drawn up play look like, travel, double dribble and carry all the time.
These guys couldn't get drafted in the 80's, 90's and 2000 decades.
The MJ 🐂🎯 would go 82-0 and 16-0 in the playoffs, Now.
In the 90's most of today's NBA players would just give up and become Rappers!
@@feetsoap4266 All the 90's players do is stiff a$$ basketball in the paint, no skills, no talents, disgusting passing and shooting, Michael Jordan wouldn't even average 3 ppg in today's NBA, LeBron would go 98-0 each season in the 90's in the weakest sports league of all time.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 The Mavericks would destroy the 1996 Bulls, way better offensive team and Bulls can't score vs zones, today's defenses are all about zones, they are used in each basketball game 100%, it was absolutely forbidden to use zones in the 90's, zones force you to shoot threes which Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were bad at.
Wait...there's still defense in the NBA?
Just goes to prove how special MJ was to have averaged in 7 straight years the following:
1986/87 - 37.1 PPG (averaging 0.8 3PA a game)
1987/88 - 35.0 PPG (averaging 0.6 3PA a game)
1988/89 - 32.5 PPG (averaging 1.2 3PA a game)
1989/90 - 33.6 PPG (averaging 3.0 3PA a game)
1990/91 - 31.5 PPG (averaging 1.1 3PA a game)
1991/92 - 30.1 PPG (averaging 1.3 3PA a game)
1992/93 - 32.6 PPG (averaging 2.9 3PA a game)
Also get your head around these additional facts, in the those 7 years he won the Scoring Title ever single year and in 1987/88 he also won the Defensive Player of the Year title having led the league in Steals (which he also again led the league in for 1989/90 and 1992/93). However, arguably much more impressive than all of that was during those 7 years, he only missed a grand total of 7 games!
Just to put some context here: Jordan led the league in total missed shots ever since the 1986-1987 season except for his 1995 return.
*"DPOY"*
Subjective fan voted media award, Hakeem averaged more blocks, defensive rebounds with better defensive rating and block percentage.
*"missed a total of 7 games in those 7 years"*
930÷13= 71.53 games played per year with the Bulls.
Another stupid Jordan flunkie post debunked, y'all are so easy to debunk the lies about Jordan and about today's defenses.
Facts!!
@@dynamic6645 So are you saying that standing around the basket and waiting to play D is more important than guarding PGs and sometimes forwards, and stealing the ball from them?
You are comparing a centre, a guy that stands around waiting to rebound, and waiting to block, someone whose work area is small.
When did Hakeem come up key to block shot? or ran all the way from the key to the basket to get a rebound. So in your eyes, only centres should win the award.
Like the typical moron, you have to compare two positions that have nothing in common, to try to make an argument.
Your retradedness is amazing... I will bless you with the name of... The Amazing Retard... TAR for short.
How many rings he win in that span?
Your stats just prove teams just let him do him and defended shit out of the rest of the team
@@sugarnads Teams didn't 'let' him do anything and it was more a inditement of the fact that he had to score all those points to make the early Bulls at least competitive as most of the other guys on the team were not of a high enough standard (All Stars etc) to support him.
But the point was simply that he didn't need the 3 ball like the players/teams live and die by now to score a lot of points and the fact that mid range scoring (which he mastered) is a lost art that could be exploited but is basically ignored makes no sense.
We all know that 2s generally are easier to make than 3s because you are closer to the hoop (you do see a number of missed 3s these days are barely reaching the hoop) and if you miss both you are still no worse off, missing a more difficult 3 trying to match your opponent instead of scoring an easier 2 to keep the deficit more manageable (which likely would reduce the number of uncompetitive blow out games) seems a better strategy rather than continuing to jack up 3s with the hope that eventually you might start making them.
with rules that NBA has today, Jordan would average 50 :) also many teams from 90ties in 4th quarter would have no players left on a court, everyone would have 6 fouls today :)
if you put teams from today in the 90ties, they would not break 40 points, but also, teams from 90ties would score considerably higher, over 100 easily. you ask why only 40 points :) well because of turnovers, every second action travel or carry or illegal defense would be called :)
It's a combination of the change of rules/enforcement of rules and styles of play. Teams have realized that 3 pointers and shots at the rim are more valuable than mid range buckets so they prioritize getting quality looks from there which spreads the floor. That being said, I think there's some simple rule changes that would make it much easier to play defense and bring these offensive numbers that we're seeing back down to earth. Things like eliminate defensive three seconds, enforce carrying (or cupping/palming) of the ball violations, and take away the gather step. Being able to take three steps is such a huge and unnecessary advantage for the offensive player.
Then why is this load management stuff, have a holiday take 30 three point shots aan that’s what they have today crying for fouls from the logo bring back the old rules
@@jamoa3395 Too bad Adam Silver hates real basketball.
He wants to celebrate stars, and push woke BS, because he things stars are the ONLY thing that brings fans in to watch the game.
Watching both teams blatantly carry the whole game is fckn hard to watch man
Simply enforcing ball violations (traveling, carry, double dribble) as well as the off arm will expose a lot of these fake overhyped “superstars “ of today. Not to mention penalizing all the flopping.
And1 has replaced fundamentals🤦🏿♂️
I like how alot of jordans highlights on this video is just him dunking on someone not dunking or on no one at all
I've lost interest in the NBA and NFL due to them legislating defense out of the games.
@@TheRealist1. I actually stopped watching the NBA when they legislated offense out of the games in the mid 2000s. Didn’t get back into basketball until 2011
fouling out of the game nowadays is almost non-existent... that alone tells you something.
Great vid. Spot on. Been saying it for years. Easy to be a star nowadays as you really have no adversity going to the cup. That’s why I can’t give “better than” to any one from this era. They really haven’t been tested to the highest degree and excelled through it. Everything is easier, even getting a chip. Just form Voltron with HOF’s and superstars.
They really need to bring back defense. I know Silver said they focused on offense to put butts in seats butt has it worked?
The best viewed playoffs and finals of this era is still worse than the least viewed finals from the Jordan era. Part of the reason that era was better was the rollercoaster ride on both sides of the court. Actual all around skills were exhibited by more players instead of only 3 pt shooting and hulk smash around the unprotected rim. It’s really boring by comparison. They need to bring back the balance of the game. Real b-ball.
NBA is bigger than it was decades ago. Defense now is harder to play and more requires more stamina than back then
@@craig2069 Lolol. Ok. It’s bigger but can’t pull in the viewership numbers from 30 years ago. Interesting. As for stamina, all they do is pull up from 30 ft and score or drive to the bucket untouched. Yeah it’s harder than haveing a guy picking you up 90 feet and wearing you down on both sides of the court like they did back then.
“Form Voltron” 😂😂
@@snakebitten6967 the reason why there so many international players now is because it’s a global game and now countries have a larger pool of players that can play. Look at how Stephen curry plays off ball and tell me someone from the 90s can guard him
@@craig2069 I see you are talking global b-ball players. The last era is responsible for that. But I am talking about butts in seats here in US. The viewership went steadily down when MJ left and tanked when his clone KBB left. The game is just not as good as it was.
As for your comment on if 90’s players could play with Steph you crazy. 🙂. You going to tell me elite athletes like MJ, Wilkins, Malone, KBB, Olajuwan, etc couldn’t adapt to this game? Y’all crazy. This era would be easy for fundamentally sound players to adapt to. No defense? I can go to the cup and no one touch me? I can flop and not play full court? Riiight.
Totally agree... today's league is just a cup cake shooting fest...
@@weswarden2216 and yet people pine for the days of flagrant foul fests.
Defense actually isn't bad, it's all the rules & officiating. Refs don't let defenders get within 6 feet of their matchup, how are defenders supposed to adequately defend when the rules cater so much to offense?
There are still elite rim protectors in the league today. Gobert, JJJ, Rob Williams, Mobley, Adebayo, Embiid, etc. There's only so much they can do however with the officiating and the rules being as offensive heavy as it is
I think this is a great point but I would say on average players on defense aren’t as good. The elite rim protectors and perimeter defenders are elite but the average player isn’t as good as the average player before
@@PK5_144 I'd argue the average player is just as good, if not better than in years past, especially the elite ones. The average NBA player is better in general today than back then, but also players today have to cover a lot more ground on defense, and are also exposed to more complicated schemes and systems than in the past too. More fundamental basketball was played back in the day, which I think is easier to defend.
@@camctrail I respect your opinion but have to disagree. The offensive schemes are not more complicated at all. In part because of the way the game is officiated, players and coaches know that defense will not be rewarded. Consequently, they do not give the same effort as players from the past. Your list of "elite rim protectors" is kind of a joke, as even the guys you mention spend far more time out by the three point line than near to the rim. I think the best example I can provide of the poor defense being played in the NBA right now is the amount of switching that goes on. We see it constantly, and in every game- lazy bigs switching onto smalls, and vice-versa, leading to mismatches and resulting in easy buckets. Marks my words, come playoff time we'll start seeing players make the effort to fight over screens and play better defense.
Only so much rim you can protect when you're closing out at the 3pt line
Exactly!
It's not that the players are BAD, it's that they're seriously HANDICAPPED by Adam Silver's "focus on scoring to the exclusion of REAL BASKETBALL".
The NBA isn't nearly as bad as "Professional Wrestling", but it's heading that way and noticeably along on the transition.
Bro I love your channel you seem to be the only one to understand. The way you were breaking down the points and comparing them nobody adds this much context 💯
THE NBA IS SOFT. ITS ONLY A FEW PLAYERS WHO STICKING TO THE CODE. THE REST ARE JUST FANS WATCHING THEIR FAV PLAYER DROP 50 IN THEIR FACES THEN ASK FOR THEIR JERSEY AFTER
I can promise you nobody is tuning into a nba game to watch matisse thybulle playing defense vs curry shooting shots
well said
@@craig2069 nobody is turning up to watch this bs period
Been saying this for year but people just call me a hater lol. I remember in the 9s as a kid how special it was to see a 100 point game. It wasn’t common. Nowadays you hardly ever see a game below 100. People keep saying “oh the players are just much better these days that’s why they score more”. Gimme a break, it’s cause there’s little to no defensive and everyone lobbing up threes.
NBA is unwatchable for me nowadays. It lacks any real grit and diversity of play. No defense, no physically, no stark contrasts of style, no drama. The F do I care about 3-point shooting… it’s as exciting as watching someone shoot clay pigeons.
The fact that a player like Doncic can put up these ridiculous numbers says it all. Sometimes it looks like he's hardly even breaking a sweat, there's hardly any serious resistance on his offense. If the defense would be tougher, he'd still be good, but not putting up these ridiculous numbers.
Well, when you can physically abuse the defensive player by dropping your shoulder and knock on his ass like in the last clip. I would say his numbers make sense.
MJ would easily average 40 maybe even 45 ppg if he wanted to in todays game
On like 35 shots lmao
@@orangejuice20133 Lol not sure why this is so funny that's literally how the math works. Embiid is currently leading the league in scoring at 34pts on 21 shots. If he were to avg 40 to 45pts he'd need at least 10 more attempts per game putting him over 30 shot attempts per game. It be almost impossible to score that much in less attempts.
@@62lceaser yea but mj’s highest scoring season was 37 a game in 1987 and he took 28 shot attempts ion see him taking 28 shot attempts unless his on a very bad team like the spurs or pistons. To say he’d average 40 to 45 a game easily is pretty funny ngl.
@@orangejuice20133 he averaged 37.1 and one of the hardest defensive eras of all time this is the weakest defense I've ever seen since I started watching basketball Jordan would literally have a cakewalk every game and you also forget to mention that he shot a lot of free throws and you can't even touch or breathe too hard on players today without getting a foul call so you also have to take into consideration he'd have 11 to 15 free throw attempts a game in this Era it would literally be easier for Jordan in a less physical league to score more remember the pistons had to beat that man up to beat him and when rules change to stop that the pistons could never beat them again many basketball experts say the same thing even Steve Ker who played with Jordan and coached curry said Jordan would be way better in this league than in league pass because of the rules changes and less physically so it's funny that people who know the game more than you also say the same thing Jordan would easily drop 40 a game no problem how are you gonna stop him he broke down triple teams in his day
@@kendallallen6634 the only way his averaging 40 is if he shot more than 29 shots a game if u put him on a bum team like the spurs or pistons that’s the only way it’s gonna happen, btw the season he averaged 37 he averaged 11 free throws a game we don’t have a Time Machine, put Mike on a contending team and his not averaging more than 32 just how goes 🤷🏾♂️, and it’s not the weakest defensive era lol it’s the best offensive era and talent of all time players are just way too good at shooting
I blame it on 3 things: 1) all the threes shot today, 2) increased pace of play, and 3) AAU basketball, which is all about showcasing the offensive skillsets of every individual player to help garner them exposure for college & NBA scouts. On-the-ball man defense is fast becoming a lost art. I can't even stand watching AAU ball. Couple that with today's emphasis on three pt shooting & the "threes or layups only" policies I would never
Today's NBA game is about 80% garbage.
It's everywhere, this behaviour. I'm a 5'7 guard and am one of the top rebounders of my team.
Everybody just wants to score. Zero offensive rebounding, no defense on breaks. Boxing out, what the hell is that?
I hope the NBA goes away..its pretty much a circus now..disrespectful to the game
That's why lebron's scoring Record should be held with an *
Nah he’s earned the record man, it’s a longevity award he’s had a great career. Don’t let his fanboys overrating him make you diminish him
He’s accomplished more than jordan did in his own era. Lebron came into the league having a horrible shot but got better. He’s 38 and is still one of the best offensive players
@@craig2069 he’s accomplished LESS in 6 more seasons keep it for real man
Just dont like the way the the league punishes defense now and lets everybody go to the hole anybody can score now thats why everybody has a 30 point a game now
@Craig mj accomplished way more in 15 years, what are you talking about?? Lebron is in year 20 still chasing mj
The NBA couldn't find another MJ that can reacapture the interest of fans around the world
MJ made SCORINg look real EASY.
Kobe was the Closest but he had a stigma because of the trial.
NBA had to change RULES in order to make players look like they can SCORE like Mike
Being here after two 60 point and two 70 games in the same week is crazy 😅
Edit: My Pacers currently (1/30/24) lead the league in ppg, at 124.8 🤯 Five teams are at 120.0 or above, and 17 teams are at 115.0 or above.
Considering the top teams were at 115-117 just last season, I'd say you were way ahead of your time with this one 🏆
I tried getting into the NBA but it seemed like the teams just took turns scoring points. There was no struggle, no intrigue, just you score then I score and whoever has a marginal lead at the end wins.
There is no defence these days. Oh how I miss the 80's and 90's. And don't get me start on the All Star game, a joke. Don't remember last time I watched it.
The All Star game has usually been a joke.
The sad part is that REAL games, even the playoffs, have gotten to be the same way any more.
Feels like the no defense thing is because no one wants to get hurt at all whatsoever in any capacity so they just basically step aside and let everyone shoot the ball. I don't even know why the defense side tries to catch up on a fast break anymore. You ain't gonna do shit anyway really so why bother?
Great video = thanks for doing the work and looking at past era's. For a great example of how the rules of the game have been changed and ignored see the "thinking basketball - evolution of scoring" video. One of the examples shows 4 violations of the offensive player on one possession and in today's game = no call and then a foul on the defender!!
Good offense will always beat good defense, that's why the offense doesn't need all this extra help. Allow hand checking, force man to man defense, bring back illegal defense calls, start calling carries and traveling again.
Today's game is hard to watch
The no defense nba is unwatchable..offense is boring as well, very little ball movement and everyone just shoots threes or goes for easy uncontested dunks.
Gee I wonder why LeBron scores so easily?
This is why I don't watch the NBA anymore.
This is what happens when you don’t allow perimeter defense. You can’t touch a player or it’s a call. You can’t put a forearm on the player or use your body to bump.
The NBA has changed the rules in favor of the offense. enhanced hand checking, gather stupid steps, shooting 1 more 3 points in stead of grabbing rebounds.
No, REMOVED hand checks entirely - they're now fouls.
2 steps for travel not one AND ADDED the "gather" step or two gather steps depending on the situation.
The 3's were a long time evolution, been going up almost every year for DECADES now - and finally passed the ABA 10-15 years back or so.
The NBA is on 2k all-star mode.
With the amount of carrying and palming the ball. With people literally carrying like running backs no surprises the scoring has been inflated
NBA: not watchable until Xmas, not believable until the playoffs
I love that in every video people make that has clips of Lebron in it he is traveling in at least one of them. 06:46 He travels so much it’s hard to make a video without a clip of him traveling. 😂 He has surpassed Patrick Ewing as the king of steps.
Do you know what a travel is? Because that wasn’t even close to a travel.
@@gggyy7104 We found the Lebron Stan. Hahaha count the steps.
@@Kashed It’s very clearly 2.
@@gggyy7104 after he picks up his dribble, he does take 3 steps. I slowed it down at .25 speed and it is 3 steps but that's allowed by today's rules. he ALMOST takes a 4th step but passes it off before he does. great body control.
@@soramirez5473 why did NBA players with lebron win bronze in olympics.because they called traveling the right way
The league fosters poor defense!!
Look at what just happened now.... It's even worse with 70 point games a year later with virtually zero defence!
Kobes 23 in game 7 look much more impressive than most guys 50 point games today
They literally done nothing to avoid the players go past them.They attack without any struggle lol🤣
No wonder Lebron has such an easy time scoring ☠️
Lebron was averaging 20 ppg at age 19 before hand checking was banned
Right
The disrespect that todays game get is insane
Can't compare decades without deep diving.
Like you said in the early 70s this was the scoring pace. PLUS I believe today the players are more efficient.
I knew this was coming 😂 I told people this way before.
I dont even pay attention to new age scoring stats. Theres no defense and anyone can drop 50 at any time
So good to see a video done on this topic. I think there's a secret pact amongst players to enjoy the big dollars they're raking in without injuries. Moreover the advent of "Live Betting" makes it even more suspicious. Tonight Sixers were ahead by 27 points and barely managed to win by 4 vs Cavaliers. Scores in 130 each is becoming normal. What a Joke! I hardly watch it anymore unless nothing else that night.
I think its both. The 3 point line craze is another reason scoring is up. and that players today keep track of how their shooting the ball more then ever before. Also today player recover from injuries faster and have better training habits. It would be weird if scoring wasn't up. but they definitely could play more defensive.
Please what is the music in back ground
Once again great video Pointing out facts about how the current NBA Is full of fake numbers Easy points for players that would not score fifteen to twenty points in the '80s 90's or 2000 NBA season. This is my opinion only. With the lack of Hand cheking and physical play the current NBA is so soft it's almost Unwatchable what the consistent traveling ball Carrying It's almost laughable... I just know that if people take these numbers at face value that they're putting up it's like come on man are they just trying to create a Wayne Gretzky Out of thin air like Breaking Records was supposed to be earned not given?
The NBA defense is as soft as Cool Whip.
3 minutes into tonight’s Minn/Denver game 4 (10-7) 3 wide open shots my 13 year old nephew hits at a 40% clip outside. And 2 layups where the defender gave up.
Is it just me or does it really feel like the last two years is a really win it feels like everyone just stopped playing defense? Don’t get me wrong I know that it’s not been as defensive for the three or four years before that but I’m really tired of hearing or reading comments like “these are the best players in the NBA has ever had look at all. The guys are having these 50 point games.” Yeah you drop the same guys anywhere in the 80s or 90s or 2000s their scoring 12 points. And to hear some stupid comments like Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant wouldn’t be as good today, are they serious? They were being mugged in averaging 30 points a game. In today’s game where no one’s coming within 10 feet of you they would be having 60 point games on a nightly basis.
It's not the last 2 years.
It's more like the last DECADE, perhaps a little longer.
With the new technologies, scoial media and what not, more athletes are found today. Nobody knows how many talents were missed back in the day. There a lot of guys, that are great now. But the more points coming is a result of years of rule changes and some rules not changing, but refs not calling(like the ball carries). With way the game is played now, if you take a random star and put him in an 80s rule set, hed be whistled on recieving the ball a lot for travel. If he is not, he would be on the carry we see nowadays. If he passes that, he may be whistled on the gather, as its differently ''calculated'' nowadays(like the Harden 680 steps-back 3 pointers). Getting past that, the player would meet a plumber(as the kids now call them) at the rim. First, he would be surprised someone actually meeting and contesting at the rim and say Bill Lambier is the guy, we may need an ambulance. Next play, our player needs a screen - whistle screen moves...as Mutomb says '' No, no, no !!!'' Feet set, or ref calls it(mostly but still). I will end my jabbering, will not even try to include the hand-chack or the backing down, but the rules changed so much and all in favour of the offence...which is bad IMO. As Greg Popovich said - '' Give us the 4 or 5 point line so we have a complete circus''. I think he knows his trade.
A big reason more points are also being scored is because 3PT shooting is more prevalent than it has ever been(and players are far better shooters from 3 compared to previous eras), and the rules favor guys on offense.
I don’t think that’s a big reason but one of the reasons. The main reason is (Soft defense) and everything that comes with it. Kindergarten defense makes way for easier & more shots whether it’s from the perimeter or at the cup. = more points.
Switch those two in terms of reasoning, yes shooting is better but defenses aren’t allowed to do their job
@@mattmmixes 3 pt shoot is def way better compared to the 80s
In the early 2000s, teams making 5-10 threes a game was a big deal. Basically it was TallBall
@@stephordless8876 Kindergraten defense ? You mean like this: ruclips.net/video/s55jUcooSho/видео.html
Right ?
The NBA is becoming unwatchable. Two thirds of the shots people put up are uncontested completely. It’s like watching a shoot around.
AND THEY TRAVEL SO MUCH ITS LAUGHABLE…I MEAN TRAVEL ON THE COURT 😢
Defense in the 90s was so good because that's all they had..
It's a starting 5 trying to be MJ Kobe and Steph Curry every team now.
If curry played in the 90s he would average 40 ppg and 15 apg
@@craig2069 With hand checking, better 1 on 1 & team defense and moving picks being called, Curry AVG. 14.5 PPG and 7 APG in the 90's.
Curry's Stardom is a product of structural rule changes.
@@craig2069 with hand checking,, curry getting his little ass knocked around,,, maybe 18-20 ppg on average
@@craig2069 No, because coaches did not allow their players to shoot nearly that many 3 point shots.
Even the greatest 3 point shooter of the era (Reggie) never shot 8 per game for a season - and only 1 or 2 seasons IIRC he averaged 7 or more attempts.
BTW - Louis Dampier IN THE ABA IN THE 1960s shot more attempts in his biggest 3 point season than Reggie did.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 despite all of what you're saying, him as the athlete he is, that's why he'd shoot the lights out in the 90s.
Defense is bad today because you can't look at the offensive guy today
You have players today who can make half court shots with no effort. The offense is significantly better than defense
@@craig2069 of course but when you can't even touch the defender without being called a foul the defender is trying to play a guessing game while the offense can lean into the defender and get free throws
@Craig you can't even touch a offensive player nowadays with your finger,,, they'll call a foul
That's offensively
Bird would get foul calls for his trash talking today.
THAT'S how bad the defense is handicapped in today's pathetic JOKE of an NAB.
So when lebron breaks kareems all time scoring record with the way rules and defense is will some people put an * by that?..just a question
The NBA is honestly so boring to watch
In the early to mid 2000s, NBA offenses were awful
It goes both ways
@Night rider I watched basketball in the early 2000s. It was unwatchable, culminating in that awful Pistons/Spurs Finals
They were “awful” because the defense was way better
@@starsportscardshobbiesandm7222 They weren’t better. They just hacked and fouled a lot more
@@chrisuncleahmad better than phantom fouls being called
@@starsportscardshobbiesandm7222 So you’d rather call no fouls?
No handchecking, no forearm, hardly anyone fouls out...
You should make a video on the officiating pls
There’s a reason why the top four players in the NBA today are foreigners ..
I stopped wathing NBA in the 90s, so when I see the defense in BBall today: its aboslutely pathetic
Just bring back the hand check and remove the 3 sec defensive violation
The 3 secs has been there for ever.
Lose the ZONE. It kills defence.
@@sugarnads what u mean? People still use zone till this day dont they? Miami did it. I mean if u do it like Fiba I really feel defense can really do more. Remember how when Nba guys went to the Olympics last year and they had problems adjusting? That physical style and reffing that they were not used to. I really feel like it can ramp the game and centers can actually do stuff. What do u think? Dont u think those olympic style games were fun?
Comparing Shaw to Embiid is a little misleading considering Shaq couldn't buy a free throw
Exactly a 40-45 now is a 90s and earlier 30 or less
Defense is bad in basketball today but I think it's because the refs are not calling crazy traveling and carrying. For example, if I know the rule is that u can't put your hand under the ball because it's carrying and the refs let u do it my whole defensive strategy is thrown off. Ja and Poole do it all the time. Then they let the offensive create contact which in the rules would be a offensive foul but the refs call it a defensive foul.
They look like they are just running up and down the floor shooting circus shots without any defense; no post play at all. Lame.
Pick one:
1. 90s defense and the NBA being +90% Black.
2. Soft or no defense and more diverse rosters with many more dominant European players.
Players are definitely more skilled nowadays but at the same time scoring is easier now too, can’t get play good defense without getting called for a foul. I’m not saying we should let players roughhouse each other like the 90s and before that but we should definitely get rid of defensive 5 sec rule and bring back hand checking.
No skill in todays era whatsoever
The game has changed and I do think teams do play good defense today if you watched last year’s finals or last years finals runs for the Celtics and the warriors you would see how much defense matters
I'm not trying to hate and I admire that you did a ton of work putting this video together and compiling a bunch of stats from past decades, but there are so many stats in the video but no _real explanation_ as to what they _mean_ or _really say_ about today's NBA.
Multiple things can be true at once. There are a multitude of reasons NBA games are so high-scoring today. *Defense is one of them, but it's not THE ONLY ONE and it's NOT THE MAIN ONE.* Defense in today's NBA is indeed designed to try to keep players from getting injured and maintain their longevity (along with the offense) over a very long 82 game season. The two main reasons that the games are so high-scoring are that the game has evolved to be played WELL BEYOND the 3-point line and most NBA offenses today are built around transition, pace, and space. NBA coaches and players like Steph Curry, Giannis Antetekoumpo, LeBron James, James Harden, Trey Young, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant etc have learned and adapted their play styles to _maximize offensive efficiency._
Not trying to piss off any old heads in the comments or people feeling insecure about how hard they or someone they admire had to play in the past and whatnot, but the answer is yes, basketball, particularly at the highest level has evolved and it is directly because of analytics and statistics. NBA organizations want to get the MOST out of their players and employees, and they have learned over time that a great thing to do is to space out players, teach them how to shoot, rest them when needed, avoid tough contact whenever they can, and avoid dangerous plays...it's business and these guys gotta protect their assets as much as possible if they want to win.
Edit: Before anyone mentions it, yes, another reason is flopping and leaning into shots to get free throws. Both of those are indeed something I hate with a passion and I hope that they can be stopped as soon as possible.
To me the NBA today is a terrible product. Teams and players take 5 months off and then they show up for the playoffs, it's a joke . The regular season is meaningless, everybody plays 500 ball and then they hope that you can just show up for the playoffs and win a championship. 😂
I just want to let you know that lebron did not dominate in 3 difference eras. Not in the 2000s and not in the 2020s.