Hello, I learnt as well you can use a dim7 chord over a dominant 7 b9.So basically you can start 1/2 above a dominant chord. But i think with your way if thinking if you start on the major 3rd of your dominant 7 at the end it is the same effect (because between b9 and major 3rd, the interval is a min 3rd).I think I unlocked the dim arpegio a bit further with your explanations.thanks a lot.
Apart from purchasing your esteemed course, what would you recommend to elderly players who have developed some less than optimal techniques over the years? P.S. All guitar players love diminished scales and inversions, so neat.Great video. Many thanks and blessings.
@Peasmouldia that would depend on the exact bad habits/technique problems that you have! If you want to shoot me an email at tommaso@musictheoryforguitar.com I can see what I can do. No pressure.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I was just kidding btw. Lol. Sorry peeps. EDIT: Although honestly, I was a little bit puzzled because the OP made out that they understand that their technique is less than optimal, therefore they must know what is more optimal, surely? And so it stands to reason that they already know what they should be doing... practice practice practice. No one can give you that.
@@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 Well, it's possible to know that your technique is not optimal and still don't know exactly what is missing or how to get better.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar as soon as I learned about music theory it was always every 4 frets including the fret you start and finish on. E 2nd fret 4th string and E 5th fret 2nd string encompasses 4 frets.
@@9Justo "including the fret you start and finish on"... so if you play it on fret 2 and then on fret 5, for you these two chords are 4 frets apart? Before you answer yes... if we follow what you're doing, then logically if you play it on fret 2 and 4, it's 3 frets apart. If you play it on fret 2 and 3, it's 2 frets apart... if you play it on fret 2 and 2 (the SAME fret!) then it's 1 fret apart.
Just to be clear: you are correct that if you play a dim7 chord on fret 2 and 5 it's the same chord. These two positions are 3 frets apart, though (5-2=3)
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar so there you go you said if you play it on the same fret its 1 fret apart - you are counting the fret you start on (actually that not true either because it's not 1 fret apart it's the "same fret"). If you move from FMj Barre chord to GMj Barre chord how many frets would you say you have moved?
Diminish traid might be referring to a Half Diminish 7th instead of a Fully Diminished 7th. Be careful. Be nice and explain the difference. Also the Diminish traid has 3 notes while the fully Diminish 7th has 4 notes.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar that's why you should always specify. When say diminish chord technically means no 7th is in it. Diminish 7th refers to the fully diminish chord with two diminished intervals. The diminished 5th and Diminished 7th. Formula 1, b3, b5 bb7. While the diminished chord formula only have 1, b3, b5. Now since the diminish traid is built on the 7th degree of the major scale, it confuses some to believe that it's a fully diminished 7 chord built on that degree of the Ionian mode when in fact it's a half diminished chord or aka minor 7th (b5) when adding a 7th. If I say play C major, you shouldn't automatically play a C major 7th not even in jazz. I know us Jazz musicians love the the fully diminished 7th. But I notice some people will not specify a 7th and just say diminish when they really meant half diminished 7th chord or they may have just wanted a plain diminish traid. I apologize for such a long text. I just tired of people getting, let's say the 2nd chord of the aeolian mode is a diminish traid but when adding a minor 3rd above the b5 of the 2nd degree, it becomes a half diminished 7th. Just thought. I know you know all of this and can articulate it better than I. It's just one of my one of my pet peeves out there.
Remember the order of chords in a major mode. Folks will say; 1. Major 2. Minor 3. Minor 4. Major 5. Major 6. Minor 7. Diminish Notice the word traid is not mentioned to students most of the time. Also there are no 7ths mentioned either. Notice the Diminish chord is present and may be assumed diminished 7th chord which would be incorrect unless you synthetically place it there which is okay. The half-diminished 7th would naturally go there.
@@iluvjazz7 No, that 's incorrect. "Diminished chord" does not mean the triad. That's "diminished triad". With "diminished chord" you can mean the triad OR the half-dim OR the full dim. In the exact same way, with "major CHORD" you may mean the triad, or the maj7, or the 6, etc. The nomenclature is "designed" to indicate either a specific chord, if desired OR a category of chords.
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This just unlocked a very important part of the puzzle that I was struggling with for a very long time... much thanks!
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Sounds great! Now, if only I knew my diminished scales...
Hello, I learnt as well you can use a dim7 chord over a dominant 7 b9.So basically you can start 1/2 above a dominant chord. But i think with your way if thinking if you start on the major 3rd of your dominant 7 at the end it is the same effect (because between b9 and major 3rd, the interval is a min 3rd).I think I unlocked the dim arpegio a bit further with your explanations.thanks a lot.
It's the same :)
Apart from purchasing your esteemed course, what would you recommend to elderly players who have developed some less than optimal techniques over the years?
P.S.
All guitar players love diminished scales and inversions, so neat.Great video.
Many thanks and blessings.
develop more optimal techniques over less years? rofl.
@@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 The remaining braincells are trying, but muscle memory has 50+ years on it's side...
Ta.
@Peasmouldia that would depend on the exact bad habits/technique problems that you have! If you want to shoot me an email at tommaso@musictheoryforguitar.com I can see what I can do. No pressure.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I was just kidding btw. Lol. Sorry peeps.
EDIT: Although honestly, I was a little bit puzzled because the OP made out that they understand that their technique is less than optimal, therefore they must know what is more optimal, surely? And so it stands to reason that they already know what they should be doing... practice practice practice. No one can give you that.
@@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 Well, it's possible to know that your technique is not optimal and still don't know exactly what is missing or how to get better.
Do i have to use a chordprogression of a diminished scale for these solos?
no, you can use this on any chord progression
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He said the diminished chord repeats every 3 frets but they repeat every 4 frets.
Diminished 7th chords repeats every 3 frets. Not 4.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar as soon as I learned about music theory it was always every 4 frets including the fret you start and finish on. E 2nd fret 4th string and E 5th fret 2nd string encompasses 4 frets.
@@9Justo "including the fret you start and finish on"... so if you play it on fret 2 and then on fret 5, for you these two chords are 4 frets apart? Before you answer yes... if we follow what you're doing, then logically if you play it on fret 2 and 4, it's 3 frets apart. If you play it on fret 2 and 3, it's 2 frets apart... if you play it on fret 2 and 2 (the SAME fret!) then it's 1 fret apart.
Just to be clear: you are correct that if you play a dim7 chord on fret 2 and 5 it's the same chord. These two positions are 3 frets apart, though (5-2=3)
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar so there you go you said if you play it on the same fret its 1 fret apart - you are counting the fret you start on (actually that not true either because it's not 1 fret apart it's the "same fret"). If you move from FMj Barre chord to GMj Barre chord how many frets would you say you have moved?
Simple easy and confusing all at the same time
Diminish traid might be referring to a Half Diminish 7th instead of a Fully Diminished 7th. Be careful. Be nice and explain the difference. Also the Diminish traid has 3 notes while the fully Diminish 7th has 4 notes.
"Diminished triad" does NOT refer to either a half-diminished 7 or a fully diminished 7... simply because "Diminished triads" are triads.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar that's why you should always specify. When say diminish chord technically means no 7th is in it. Diminish 7th refers to the fully diminish chord with two diminished intervals. The diminished 5th and Diminished 7th. Formula 1, b3, b5 bb7. While the diminished chord formula only have 1, b3, b5.
Now since the diminish traid is built on the 7th degree of the major scale, it confuses some to believe that it's a fully diminished 7 chord built on that degree of the Ionian mode when in fact it's a half diminished chord or aka minor 7th (b5) when adding a 7th. If I say play C major, you shouldn't automatically play a C major 7th not even in jazz. I know us Jazz musicians love the the fully diminished 7th. But I notice some people will not specify a 7th and just say diminish when they really meant half diminished 7th chord or they may have just wanted a plain diminish traid. I apologize for such a long text. I just tired of people getting, let's say the 2nd chord of the aeolian mode is a diminish traid but when adding a minor 3rd above the b5 of the 2nd degree, it becomes a half diminished 7th. Just thought. I know you know all of this and can articulate it better than I. It's just one of my one of my pet peeves out there.
Remember the order of chords in a major mode. Folks will say;
1. Major
2. Minor
3. Minor
4. Major
5. Major
6. Minor
7. Diminish
Notice the word traid is not mentioned to students most of the time. Also there are no 7ths mentioned either. Notice the Diminish chord is present and may be assumed diminished 7th chord which would be incorrect unless you synthetically place it there which is okay. The half-diminished 7th would naturally go there.
@@iluvjazz7 No, that 's incorrect. "Diminished chord" does not mean the triad. That's "diminished triad". With "diminished chord" you can mean the triad OR the half-dim OR the full dim. In the exact same way, with "major CHORD" you may mean the triad, or the maj7, or the 6, etc. The nomenclature is "designed" to indicate either a specific chord, if desired OR a category of chords.