Bland Chord Progressions? Try The NEAPOLITAN Chord

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @brazwen
    @brazwen 4 года назад +185

    I tried the Napoleon chord, ended up nearly conquering all of Europe.
    I think I did this wrong.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  4 года назад +48

      I should have titled the channel "military strategy for guitar"...

    • @brazwen
      @brazwen 4 года назад +5

      @@MusicTheoryForGuitar LOL! I've been watching some documentaries and Epic History TV youtube channel (highly recommend) on Napoleon Bonaparte. I came here and saw how similar Neapolitan spelling is to Napoleon and that's all I could think of.
      Napoleon was an absolute genius on the battlefield and to think his downfall was his own doing not that other European nation got smarter and defeated him.
      Other than that, great content on your channel. I'm learning alot.

    • @JohnnyOlsson
      @JohnnyOlsson 4 года назад +9

      History, music theory and dad joke - this comment has it all. Well done sir.

    • @svenolofandersson2572
      @svenolofandersson2572 3 года назад +1

      Dude, wait until you discover the Hitler chord... :-)

    • @joshuafernandes4935
      @joshuafernandes4935 3 года назад

      Have you tried playing the chord at Trafalgar square ?

  • @mikitomita8524
    @mikitomita8524 2 года назад +1

    You explained the way constructed Neapolitan chord so well.
    Thank you

  • @kumareshnatarajan8019
    @kumareshnatarajan8019 4 года назад +1

    Superb info. Thanks a lot. Thanks once again.

  • @ClemFlamenco
    @ClemFlamenco 3 года назад +2

    Im french i préfère your classroom like all
    Great and enjoy

  • @TheBassplayah
    @TheBassplayah 4 года назад +1

    Is there a bass course for this kind of theory? Can I study this course as I play guitar as well, and use it on my bass soloing and line creation?

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  4 года назад

      I don't have a bass-specific course, but Complete Chord Mastery can definitely be used to write chord progression with interesting bass lines. If you need more details, you can write me at tommaso@musictheoryforguitar.com

  • @juanmoralesvideo
    @juanmoralesvideo 4 года назад +169

    «If you like this video». 'If'? Are you kidding? Man, your explanations are great!

  • @johnprice3341
    @johnprice3341 4 года назад +125

    Wow, I was playing Chopin’s Nocturne op 9 no 1 and he does this A LOT

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  4 года назад +10

      Yes!

    • @rebelquadronfpv1065
      @rebelquadronfpv1065 4 года назад +1

      He invented it?

    • @renzo3939
      @renzo3939 4 года назад +1

      @@rebelquadronfpv1065 probably not

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 4 года назад +2

      @@rebelquadronfpv1065 If he had, why would it be called the Neapolitan chord?

    • @rybateman
      @rybateman 3 года назад +17

      @@SpaghettiToaster It's clearly named after the ice cream

  • @N4m43
    @N4m43 4 года назад +37

    Just noticed there's a chromatic rise (I don't know how it's called in english... "chromatic ascension"? anyway...) going from A to C in the Am progression.
    There's A, Bb, B and C.
    It's pretty cool.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  4 года назад +6

      Well spotted!

    • @N4m43
      @N4m43 4 года назад +2

      @@MusicTheoryForGuitar I actually though you were about to talk about that while commenting the progression... Then it was about the A, Bb, G#, A. ^^
      But yeah, definitely a great tension trick.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  4 года назад +4

      Both things are going on at the same time in the progression. The best progressions always have on or more lines (diatonic or chromatic) moving 'through' the chords.

    • @N4m43
      @N4m43 4 года назад +5

      @@MusicTheoryForGuitar Yep, definitely agree with that. This way you can listen to it several time and hear a different thing each time.

  • @TedBoyRomarino
    @TedBoyRomarino 4 года назад +353

    In the key of A major, I IV V I sounds like a good A D E A 😜😜😜😜😜

  • @ChristineHals
    @ChristineHals 3 года назад +5

    "Weak is COOOL if you like that sound". 😅

  • @ricardofranciszayas
    @ricardofranciszayas Год назад +7

    Maestro, You are a brilliant teacher. I’m a 71 year old semi-retired keyboard player. The need for understanding the Neapolitan chord was never crucial for a blue collar musician like me. So out of curiosity I thought I would research it. I went to different RUclips videos explaining the Neapolitan chord and came away feeling more stupid at the end of the videos.
    But your video, good Sir, explained so concisely and in terms understandable to a mere mortal like myself.
    Bravissimo, Maestro.
    Your channel is wonderful.

  • @docwill184
    @docwill184 4 года назад +38

    You explain this for knuckle-head guitar-players so well...
    "How do you get a guitar-player to shut up?"
    "Put some sheet music in front of him."

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  4 года назад +8

      You must be so smart

    • @docwill184
      @docwill184 4 года назад

      @@MusicTheoryForGuitar Thank-you but too much proof to the contrary...

    • @idmarc
      @idmarc 4 года назад +4

      how do you make him leave? write notes on it ... ha!

  • @danielrennie8444
    @danielrennie8444 4 года назад +20

    Doing this is Am sounds very much like the Hans Zimmer score from the "Dark Phoenix" movie. I mistook it as being written in A Phrygian Dominant, but now I realize that it's just in A minor using an N6 chord. Highly recommend you listen to the score, specifically the piece called "Gap" within the score. Thanks for a fantastic video and content. Love this channel

    • @marcuscarman9936
      @marcuscarman9936 2 года назад

      I believe emphasize the " starting " of a mode , is to acclimate you ears to the color of the mode , a reference point like you were doing with the short chord melody in 'a ' minor

  • @steveanderson7727
    @steveanderson7727 4 года назад +39

    This is quite simply the best and most easily understood bit of music theory I have ever been shown. Normally I struggle to follow music theory, but this poured into my brain like a cool beer.
    Most grateful, I am off right now to experiment with the accordo Napolitano :)

  • @Shayne_Mushin
    @Shayne_Mushin Год назад +2

    if u like the way it sounds, it's the right context

  • @johnjoseph1966
    @johnjoseph1966 4 года назад +12

    The Neopolitan chord is just a first inversion bII chord. Very easy to remember. 😃

  • @VoidloniXaarii
    @VoidloniXaarii 4 года назад +32

    The explanation at the end with half above and half below is great

    • @sanzen1234
      @sanzen1234 4 года назад +1

      Made me hear moonlight sonata section.

  • @Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic
    @Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic 4 года назад +10

    Dig “tension profile” phrase. Its hard to talk about extended harmonic music theory without sounding like its about a new better set of harmonies. When really its just a new color to paint with in the so ic space. If thats what you want to do. Explaining it as a tension profile seems like a good way to avoid the more complicated is better snob effect. Anyways thanks for the video. I was just thinking of looking up the neopolatin chord because i couldn’t remember exactly what it was but I remembered liking its effect when i first learned about, and now I remember. Cheers.

  • @christopherlees1134
    @christopherlees1134 2 месяца назад +1

    By far the best explanation of the Neapolitan chord I've ever seen. Great presentation!

  • @edwardrice2848
    @edwardrice2848 3 месяца назад +1

    Best breakdown here - particularly why d stays in the bass here (first inversion)

  • @kakipbass
    @kakipbass 4 года назад +21

    I see.... A -> Bb -> B -> C semitone move

  • @rrdwiki
    @rrdwiki Год назад +1

    simply perfect. Smashed that like button :)

  • @cressentiamurniastuti
    @cressentiamurniastuti 3 месяца назад +1

    Well explained. Very good Teacher ❤❤🎉🎉

  • @ahknown1992
    @ahknown1992 2 года назад +1

    damn every time i had a question, the video proceeded to ask and answer the question for me 3 seconds later. much psychic, much wow

  • @natarajanrathinam869
    @natarajanrathinam869 3 года назад +1

    Very useful website. Thanks a lot. Thanks once again.

  • @lucagambirasio
    @lucagambirasio 4 года назад +11

    I read tons of harmony books, but you've done the easiest explanations here. Cheers!

  • @toofattoskate1
    @toofattoskate1 2 года назад +3

    excellent tutorial. I understand it now. So many videos are over complicated this chord. this is simple. thank you.

  • @midstar1820
    @midstar1820 4 года назад +6

    This guy sounds like a coherent Slavoj Žižek

  • @sjohn-777
    @sjohn-777 7 месяцев назад +1

    Sir you are amazing! Thank you so much!

  • @scintube
    @scintube 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent explanation thank you much!

  • @crxnvy
    @crxnvy 3 года назад +1

    great video. im so grateful that i found this. thanks!

  • @chaza.2891
    @chaza.2891 3 года назад +1

    Xsuperbly explained bro!!! Thx!

  • @Kyrelel
    @Kyrelel 2 года назад +1

    As well as the enclosure around A, there is the sequence A - Bb - B - C

  • @SamuelPeckman
    @SamuelPeckman 4 года назад +5

    I play the piano not the guitar. I found this to be a very clear explanation of the near Politan chord. Thank you.

  • @TheKarmicRepairCo
    @TheKarmicRepairCo 4 года назад +5

    Great stuff. That Neapolitan chord can also be a major 7th. You inspired me to swap out a chord. I'm in Em on guitar, so it would be: Em Fmaj7/A. B7 Em. Putting the 3rd in the bass and adding the maj7, sweet!

  • @turkmusik
    @turkmusik 4 года назад +4

    I bought all this stuff about "jazz guitar" and frankly it was amazingly boring and useless. They'd give you a forest of chords and tell you to memorize all of these arcane scales in 12 keys, without the slightest sense of how any of it was used. It seemed like some weird way to punish you. This one lesson makes more sense than all of that crap put together. See you on the chord course . . .

    • @raymondfrye5017
      @raymondfrye5017 4 года назад

      I don't know if it is still in print but there was a text called Mickey Baker's Jazz Method. An excellent text.

  • @jaykay1053
    @jaykay1053 3 года назад +1

    Instantly Subscribed!

  • @MrRobertFarr
    @MrRobertFarr Год назад +1

    I can't understand without the tab. I understood. The minor chords and progression.
    Am , I might play x02210 with A in the bass. X0xxxx , there.
    With tuning, eadgbe . Sure, it's nice and worth doing because. A person , may need to feel healed when feeling sad . But, if they, are not enjoying being sad . They will not listen !
    We, want them to be sad , and be seeking healing as we are selling a healing potion okay ?
    This is because UK will not allow, the source of healing to be sold . So, it must be a medicine ! Understand ?

  • @jeremyrandall7228
    @jeremyrandall7228 3 года назад +2

    I returned to this video for a second time after reading (Osborn, 2017) about Johnny Greenwood’s use of this chord in Radiohead. Once you explain it, I can hear the chromaticism in the progression. thanks

  • @NullStaticVoid
    @NullStaticVoid 4 года назад +7

    I've been doing this for years and never had a name for it.

  • @JohnnyOlsson
    @JohnnyOlsson 4 года назад +3

    That double chromatic thing, with notes both a half note sharp and a half note flat of the tonic, it gives a very strong pull towards the root. Another interesting thing with the progression is that it also has a half note "climb"; A, Bb, B, C. So the resolution is very strong, both because of the pull toward the root and the climb toward the third.
    I'm writing this not to mansplain it to the teacher but because this is the first video that gave me this Eureka-feeling where things just came together in my head, and I want to say thank you for this.

  • @kibavlood5826
    @kibavlood5826 4 года назад +5

    Dude i really love the Chord videos man, you could even make a series out of it. I love Chords and love discovering new, your videos is perfect so is your channel. Stay safe.

  • @renebarat1563
    @renebarat1563 4 года назад +1

    Ital players for guitar players!

  • @django9858
    @django9858 4 года назад +5

    I'm getting out the guitar right now...thank you 🎸👍

  • @robbesisca
    @robbesisca 4 года назад +4

    The quality of this video is amazing. Brilliantly done!

  • @tongateachesmusic
    @tongateachesmusic 4 года назад +4

    Love everything about this video/explanation, very clear and concise with easy to follow examples! Well done!

  • @jstjay-o5480
    @jstjay-o5480 4 года назад +4

    I'm a keyboard player but big ups , ur explanations are great

  • @plusticksofficial524
    @plusticksofficial524 4 года назад +1

    Wow. Wanna try this one.

  • @achokarlos
    @achokarlos 2 года назад

    This Neapolitan chords in major sounds to me kind like a Tritone substitution with no 7th?

  • @holstorrsceadus1990
    @holstorrsceadus1990 4 года назад +7

    Funny because this is how I start my warm up and I'm trying to dial that back

  • @judasxchrist
    @judasxchrist 2 года назад +1

    Just great, thank you!

  • @JonnyCrackers
    @JonnyCrackers 4 года назад +1

    Thank you nice Italian man.

  • @lit2021
    @lit2021 4 года назад +3

    This explanation is better than the one given to me by my classical harmony professor at the music academy..

  • @FullMetalDMZ
    @FullMetalDMZ 4 года назад +4

    Great video, as always! The fact that you tackle the “weak” notes is a very eye opening concept, at least for me. It explains why some chord movements feel bland and not very interesting!

  • @brianbergmusic5288
    @brianbergmusic5288 3 года назад +1

    More options!!! Thanks!

  • @kasrakhavarinejad1476
    @kasrakhavarinejad1476 2 года назад +1

    Best explanation 👍👌

  • @aurakodiac7386
    @aurakodiac7386 3 года назад +1

    Reminds me of Swing 48

  • @shaolinmatadordeporco4246
    @shaolinmatadordeporco4246 11 месяцев назад +2

    The best part of your videos is that not only you explain how stuff works, but also explains the reason for it to work the way it does, just like in books, but you do it in a much easier way to understand

  • @antoninowoodystella4607
    @antoninowoodystella4607 4 года назад +1

    Bellissima spiegazione!

  • @JohnnyArtPavlou
    @JohnnyArtPavlou 4 года назад +3

    I just about followed this bit of theory in real time. Stopped a couple of times to absorb a few things. Of course don’t ask me anything now that I finished watching it. I’m gonna have to watch it a few times. But fantastic video, great lesson thank you!

  • @pizzarand
    @pizzarand 4 года назад +3

    This lesson is awesome. I also checked out your course but havent found how many Videos the complete course is. At 60 bucks per month I kinda wanna see where the course is going. Furthermore I understand how much time may have gone into producing it but 60 is alot of money for a 40-60 minute video. I would love to check it out but as a student I am not sure if I can afford it

  • @raymendoza8157
    @raymendoza8157 4 года назад +5

    Mmmm neapolitan ice cream....

  • @storm8y744
    @storm8y744 4 года назад +8

    Is this relevant if I don't play the guitar like I was playing these chord progressions on the piano

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  4 года назад +3

      Yes, you can do the same on the piano.

    • @JAYDUBYAH29
      @JAYDUBYAH29 4 года назад +2

      All instruments!

    • @danielamourose6361
      @danielamourose6361 4 года назад

      Theoretically, you can do it on guitar also. But as an intermediate player myself, the Neapolitan's inversions may suit you better on guitar.

    • @kilianbader9786
      @kilianbader9786 4 года назад +1

      @@JAYDUBYAH29 i want to see you playing it on a didgeridoo

  • @TalesGrimm
    @TalesGrimm 4 года назад +4

    I don't even understand music on this level but I couldn't stop watching

  • @infinitypiano9170
    @infinitypiano9170 4 года назад +1

    Benissimo! Grazie.

  • @jake_ams
    @jake_ams Месяц назад

    Could the N6 be also called like an augmented Minor?
    As it is a raised 5th in D Minor?
    Thank you for your awesome video, it makes things more clear.
    Also I feel the N6 creates a sus4 when playing around and shifting in half steps :)

  • @ryedylantm
    @ryedylantm 4 года назад +3

    Very clear and concise explanation. I learned a lot.

  • @olovstenlund502
    @olovstenlund502 4 года назад

    What about if you go Am Bm7-5 (or Bdim ie Bm6-5) E7 (or E-9) Am? So a whole step up? Or is that just how it always works? I guess examples would be St Agnes & the burning train by Sting, or whisper his name by David Åhlen).

  • @TorqueBow
    @TorqueBow 3 года назад

    Could you look at this in a phrygian context too?
    Like Amin - BbMaj - EMaj - Amin
    Or is the Neapolitan chord specifically a flat 2 in any minor key?

  • @jaybefaulky4902
    @jaybefaulky4902 4 года назад +2

    this was good it reminds me of the age old trick of 'when in doubt lead it out' where you 'fix' the chord progression by always maintaining a semi tone lead in for the next chord..this is best when it's part of the melody as well like a 'pick up note'...play with the lead note being ascending or descending...you can 'fix' otherwise awkward sounding progressions by a strategic sharp and flat here and there, using this way of thinking brings light to why there are many sharps and flats in many classical music melody lines.. ;)

  • @ΑνδρέαςΒαινάς-τ9τ
    @ΑνδρέαςΒαινάς-τ9τ 4 года назад +8

    It sounds like Phrygian to me

    • @scottblair8261
      @scottblair8261 4 года назад +9

      That's because the Neapolitan Chord can also be considered a borrowed chord from the Phrygian mode. The Phrygian mode has a flat two, so building a chord around it means it has that Phrygian sound.

    • @adityamohan1773
      @adityamohan1773 4 года назад +1

      Except the fifth chord. The fifth chord is too strong to consider it phrygian

    • @alsatusmd1A13
      @alsatusmd1A13 4 года назад +2

      aditya mohan that’s right. Real Phrygian would use bVIIm or bIII7 to substitute for the “dominant” triad being diminished. It is actually Neapolitan minor.

    • @FullMetalDMZ
      @FullMetalDMZ 4 года назад +1

      aditya mohan actually the 5th chord is Phrygian dominant!

    • @kwixotic
      @kwixotic 4 года назад

      Scott Blair But it could also be from the Aeolian Scale.

  • @michaelkaiser85
    @michaelkaiser85 3 месяца назад

    See i screwed myself over when i was an intermediate player, i focused wayyyy to hard on soloing and not enough on building chords, because after i caught up on my rhythm i realized my solos improved 10 fold... Now I'm out here writing prog rock or something, not sure what you'd call it, vut anyhow lol

  • @robertoriggio117
    @robertoriggio117 4 года назад

    "Marruzella Marruzé..." I think it comes from typical Neapolitan melodic behavior. Which, by the way, is very similar to melodic behavior in the Hindustan raga Bhairavi, which is very similar to the Phrygian mode, but often uses the major 2nd scale degree until it resolves at the end with the minor second.

  • @dsracoon
    @dsracoon 4 года назад +3

    I love how your explanations are simple and they make sense. Most music theory teachers/ytbers don't go into the detail you go or just handwave it. Or when they do try to go into detail they just go off on crazy tangents. Auguri!

  • @fredvacher3998
    @fredvacher3998 3 года назад

    Thank you very much! Very clear explanation. I am not a guitarist. I play the keyboard. I am now convinced of the efficiency of the Neapolitan chord in a minor key (sounds chromatic, fluent and logical) but I m not convinced of its efficiency in a major key. (What I sometimes do in a major key is to raise the dominant chord by a semitone. It sounds over the top, I know, but sometimes I can t help it!!! 😉). I ll have to try the Neapolitan chord in major more often....
    Many many thanks!

  • @gregwalker5554
    @gregwalker5554 4 года назад

    Very nice explanation! So on Smoke on the Water, is the G# in the chorus Neapolitan? We always called it that back when the song came out, but I figured I might have missed something. Also, is there a name for the chord that is very similar, in the key of C, a G# that goes to the G7 in a turnaround? Calling it a flat 6 is OK, but does not have the pizzazz of something like Neapolitan.

  • @katieyoung9447
    @katieyoung9447 4 года назад +3

    I'm not a guitarist but what a fabulous, clear explanation! Thank you for making these videos!

  • @lokmanmerican6889
    @lokmanmerican6889 4 года назад +1

    Nice explanation

  • @vincenzovicario2941
    @vincenzovicario2941 2 года назад

    Great. i would add that the "accordo di sesta napoletana" is built on the second (flat) degree of the neapolitan minor scale that sound like this: 1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 7 8...

  • @vze2gsgr
    @vze2gsgr 2 года назад +1

    Love these videos.

  • @keshavleitan7800
    @keshavleitan7800 3 года назад +3

    I play piano and I really find your lessons valuable.

  • @jeffsavaryego2366
    @jeffsavaryego2366 4 года назад

    In the key of Am, besides being the Neapolitan chord, can you think of the Bb as a borrowed chord from the parallel Phrygian mode?

  • @CaptainBobolob
    @CaptainBobolob 3 года назад

    When he circled the notes, I was honestly surprised.
    I didn't notice or hear the
    A Bb G# A -- half step above and below
    but rather the
    A Bb B C -- half step increase from root to third
    Interesting

  • @ierikopj
    @ierikopj 7 месяцев назад +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @SeasickSailor76
    @SeasickSailor76 4 года назад +2

    Great videos! Clear and well-paced. Thank you!
    At around 7:30, when you were pointing out the chromaticity of the notes, I thought you would have emphasised the B note in the E7, and not the G sharp (i.e. the A to B flat to B chromatic element). Do you think that sequence plays a role? I just tried the sequence playing the 'normal' E minor and it seems to work, but not quite as well as the E7, to my ear anyway.
    Thanks again!

  • @jrbasco
    @jrbasco 4 года назад

    Thank you soooo much...I think I can get a lot of mileage out of noodling with dim-chords to fill out (make more interesting) my approach to guitar.

  • @paulstaerker8158
    @paulstaerker8158 4 года назад +1

    Bravissimo!

  • @davidsonmick
    @davidsonmick 4 года назад +1

    Thanks, just watched two of your videos, which were both great! Such and interesting and unique ay of teaching. And I love your accent! Plus it looks like you're writing with your finger, which is magic. :) Ciao!

  • @billwesley
    @billwesley 4 года назад

    I would suggest its not just that the neopolitian chord substitutions produce more "tension". The minor chords sound "depressed" or introspective while the major chords "hopeful" or extroverted so between a choice of all introverted or all extroverted the "all extroverted" choice seems more sustainable, but flitting between both introverted and extroverted offers the most drama. The same is true of story telling in general. We tend to hear the smallest changes between notes as melodies so it is a good point that semitone differences between chords better connect them melodically.

  • @billyvitale8994
    @billyvitale8994 Год назад

    Great.. detailed and comprehensive lesson.....Grazie Tomaso❤

  • @yeril9
    @yeril9 3 года назад +1

    Where can I buy your book teacher???

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  3 года назад

      Here: www.musictheoryforguitar.com/guitar-theory-lessons.html
      For all question, write me at tommaso@musictheoryforguitar.com

  • @danielmackeigan9710
    @danielmackeigan9710 2 года назад

    Isn't the bII7 a tritone substitution for the V7 chord? Did jazz borrow from classical music in its use of this substitution?

  • @markdougherty9917
    @markdougherty9917 4 года назад +1

    i iv v i

  • @giovannidibernardo1576
    @giovannidibernardo1576 2 года назад

    Only with a very interesting and well explained content it is possible to bear such an awful english. The concepts learned are worth the tremendous effort for the ears. Thanks.

  • @lindsayfraser
    @lindsayfraser 4 года назад +2

    This Video has finally fully explained a type of progression I have used for years in various songs but still struggled t understand what I was harmonically doing with my limited theory knowledge. Thank you, I have been enlightened as to why it works.

  • @warnerbroken8973
    @warnerbroken8973 3 года назад +2

    thanks for the video, very informative as always! Also, placing the chord before the 5th creates a tritone with the 5th. It's an easy way to memorize how this works.

  • @sandristas009
    @sandristas009 4 года назад +2

    vaya, pude entender la mayor parte del vídeo, tal vez sea porque pronuncia las cosas "literalmente" y no con ese acento ingles que dificulta tanto entender :D

  • @christopherecatalano
    @christopherecatalano 4 года назад +1

    Cool demo...

  • @rocknrollman9913
    @rocknrollman9913 4 года назад +2

    one of the most beautiful examples is bwv 582 the Fugato finale, in which Bach reaches the height of tension with a Neapolitan chord followed by a sudden pause

  • @jeanlucchapelon
    @jeanlucchapelon 4 года назад +1

    Excellent