Personality wise ROTB Pablo fits Beachcomber WAYYYYYYY more.... However the writers were probably thinking a guy like Beachcomber wouldn't be in a jungle with no beach around. I am honestly wishing that the extended cut on bluray hopefully has more scenes with him. The movie can easily be increased to 2 and a half with all that parts they cut out like Transit, Wheeljack and Arcee stuff and more Cheeto and Rhinox.
Apparently it's just a Coincidence, that he's actually like Beachcomber, Supposedly the name and the Design were forced on Caple Jr, by the executives. Which sounds like a really Bay thing to do.
@@PerspectiveEnd I doubt it was bay this time, it was probably either Lorenzo or hasbro execs Unlike Lorenzo, bay is no longer creatively involved in the franchise at all. He was only invited to the set for day because he had a break from another movie he was filming at the time
@@xavierwalko4175 You don't need to add everything back as that would ruin the pass. An extra 30 would allow the final battle to have a bit more going on and the middle to have more character moments.
The fact that Wheeljack turns into a TV repair van tells me that he was supposed to be a mechanic in the movie, but the movie was cut down so much that any indication of that was lost.
I mean to be fair they Did Crosshairs, but that was about as different a dude as Wheeljack is to Pablo. But it would be nice to see a Relatively accurate anyone.
I will never understand why they've never used the Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen mold for a fembot, especially if it's one that has the hood chest to begin with.
@@timeman7753 ss86 Jazz could work for those without. Pretty sure the IDW Tf vs Terminator take on Arcee was expected to use a Datsun base, given the hatchback shins and grill bust, kinda surprised no one has made one of that rendition, the design slapped in my opinion.
i had come to terms with Wheeljack’s design a while ago, and while I wish there was at least *a* scene of him inventing something or displaying a more impressive invention, i’m still chill with this being a Wheeljack that being said, there are at least two candidates that could’ve worked better with this template imo like you said, in terms of personality, Beachcomber, for all the reasons you mentioned (although his whole “pacifism” schtick would likely have to be cut, which is what really made him stand out to me.) or my idea, in terms of design, Ironfist/Fisitron (same general shape in robot mode, roughly the same colours, similar geek/nerd personality, and his tfa version had goggles/glasses. and honestly, he’s bordering on the line of obscure enough to where I don’t think many people would have an issue with the creative liberties.)
If I had to make a guess, the writers were saddled with the Wheeljack name before they came up with the personality and had to use it or die. It's the 2000’s again when names were meaningless so long as Hasbro still wants to use them.
This is a quote from an interview not too long ago. "When I got into the film, they had already wanted the Wheeljack part of this picture, but they wanted to redesign it and actually lean more into the science and nerdy part of Wheeljack. They felt like the Wheeljack - I don't know if this is the studio or Hasbro who was here before me - he was kind of falling into the lane of the other characters. Kind of tough. Ironhide, and those kind of vibes. Just didn't feel like enough variety across the board."
Yep, I can confirm Wheeljack’s glasses are easily breakable. Went to transform mine for the second time after unboxing him, and the front of the van caught the corner of his glasses and snapped them clean in half.
Speaking of Wheeljack's blaster, it kinda reminds me of a vintage Flash Gordon gun I saw somewhere. What if Wheeljack became a fan of old science fiction radio serials? Now, that would be entertaining to see.
With your factory mix up of parts for Nightbird, you missed out on being able to turn her bluntest sword ever wielded by a robot ninja into the most awkward spoiler ever seen on a sportscar.
I actually really like wheeljack’s transformation, one of the best most effectively engineered transformations in a while in my opinion, every part of the van is used in some way in robot mode, which is always a plus in my book
despite not liking the name Wheeljack for Pablo I quite liked Pablo. He seems like the least problematic Autobots tied with gf Arcee. Bumblebee is dead, primes depressed, mirage is rowdy as all hell, and the Scottish dude is falling apart in half the scenes he’s in
The suspenders are meant to sit under the headlight flaps in robot mode, something I found out during transformation (via instructions). I would have never known to move those either lol Doesn't make a huge difference visually though 😅
Ive heard that you can swap out wheeljacks head for his bee movie one, and considering that my bumblebee wheeljack broke, i might just get this figure and do that as i think everything but the head looks "alright"
I swear I’m the only one that genuinely likes the new design for Wheeljack. I love how expensive he is in the film and the overall original design (I’m not the biggest fan of the tiny eyed Wheeljack from the Bumblebee movie but the mask and ears are still cool as fuck tho and should’ve stayed in the film)
There are other's who love it. I don't understand why, it's got nothing to do with Wheeljack. I mean he could have been exactly as Expressive and been Beachcomber. I'm not super in love with the BB design my self. The ears were cool, but the rest of it could have been better, how ever I would take that happily as a version of Wheeljack, even if I think there are area's it could be improved.
Personally I adore this new wheeljack design and I now use this version of wheeljack as my definitive take on the character. I'm a sucker for out there interpretations of existing characters (cybertron metroplex, rotf devastator, etc.) And this js no exception
@@PerspectiveEnd Well, in the IDW comics there was a bot who was infected with a plague that had the name Prowl but was absolutely nothing like Autobot Prowl. Just shared the name. We could say that he is a completely different character but just so happens to share the name Wheeljack.
@@PerspectiveEndI understand that and put all my bias aside and accepted he was a new take and actaully loved him not my fav wheeljack not even top 10 top 15 but I just loved him
Here's the thing, I don't know that that was intentional. I've seen a comment supposedly made by the director where he said that he wanted to make an Accurate Wheeljack but the Execs where dead set on Wheeljack being made into a Giant nerd in design with a different personality for some reason.
I got this 3 pack for 10 dollars at a swap meet, I've loved all of them, I've custom painted Cheetor to make him fit a little better with studio series and same with wheeljack, my main issue is just the lower legs with nightbird and honestly I think for around 20-30 bucks this set could be worth it but $60 is a crime and not worth it at all
@@PerspectiveEnd If you watched the movie, Nightbird had a car alt mode but had jet boosters and wings to fly (which nice nod to Shatter) and the head design is similar to GE Dirge/Thrust/Ramjet. So, if in the director's cut there's a scene where the Terrorcons scan alt modes, we could most likely see Nightbird having a more seeker-like body. If not, we could assume that either Nightbird scanned a car mode before becoming a herald of Unicron or after becoming a Herald of Unicron Nightbird was upgraded (similar to the G1 movie with Megatron being upgraded to Galvatron).
When my best friend first told me that Pablo design was Wheeljack I thought he was actually trolling me but then I found out he was telling the truth and I went to claw my eyes out
This wheeljack is a completely different character. so I made my own headcanon for the guy. Pablo is actually wheeljack's apprentice. Under his tutelage Pablo would follow in Wheeljack's footsteps as an inventor. But would not get to complete his training because of the war and later, the great exodus. Prime and his team were on the last lines of defense after the ark's lifted. Pablo remained at Iacon to try to save whoever he can. So he wouldn't accompany Wheeljack and Prime's team at the launch pad. we see in the bumblebee movie what happened next. Prime would stay behind to cover the other's escape and get captured. Wheeljack included. But there was one problem. Jackie's pod was damaged. So it fell back to cybertron. He survived the crash and being the mad genius he was would always have a backup plan. In this case, another pod. A prototype that he never used in his workshop. and there was a chance he would blow up. But he would take the risk. So he would head back to Iacon plowing through some vehicons and seekers and would find pablo. With little time they would gather whatever gear and energon they had left and ready it for launch. But the decepticons would close in on their position. Pablo tried to volunteer to stay behind and cover wheeljack's escape. only for wheeljack to force him into the pod. Just as the decepticons broke through the doors Jackie would push the button to launch Pablo into space. His final words to him; "Til all are one, kid". Being a badass Jackie would cut down some cons to cover his escape. Pablo would watch in horror as jackie would get blasted by Shockwave in the chest. At the same time the pod finally launched into space. So he would not see his death. aftermath: Pablo would name himself after his savior and mentor to keep the name of wheeljack alive. He would receive prime's message from earth and would join the rendezvous with ironhide, arcee, mirage, ratchet, brawn, jazz, and sideswipe. (stratosphere would arrive a year or two after the rest) So that is my headcanon. I kinda wish I could write for these films. I love this franchise so much and will never stop collecting them. Hope yall liked it.
See I dont think you need to go this far with the lore to explain it, you just say "Tis Beachcomber and you are done." Though at least you gave any justification for it at all. Unlike the movie.
If you ever review ss crosshairs make sure to be careful with the windshield bit and make sure to keep it as far away from rubbing alcohol because it eats through the plastic
what is it with movie characters looking like different characters then the ones they share names here, its like the unicron trilogy all over again like DOTM sentinel looks like alpha trion Armada Wheeljack looks like a cross between sideswipe and ricochet Armada Blurr should have been named crosshair given the fact that he's a sniper Armada Cyclonus should have just been either Whirl or Vortex since they're both helicopters and both have questionable sanity Energon downshift looks for more like wheeljack cliffjumper looks like beachcomber and even borrows his colours at one point and then we have ROTB wheeljack which also looks like beachcober but brown
Well there's at least a Reasonable Explanation with the Armada stuff in that they were protecting Copyright with an Existing animation they had no ability to change. This is apparently just Capriciousness on the Executive's Parts.
Will never not amaze me how they had a scientist available for the movie that was known to repair bots and create inventions. chose the worst option for everyone. Guess Wheeljack wanted to take the movie’s quality with him before he went.
I mean the worse option for everyone. Could have easily fixed a good chunk of the problems in the movie while keeping g1 fans happy, while keeping casual fans happy. Don’t know how to explain it further
Hey Perspective! (Yes, it’s me…again). I’m not sure if I’ve asked this question before or not so forgive me if I’ve forgotten. But what’s your advice to aspiring TF fan writers like myself?? Stop Motion, Novels, Comics, etc.
1 Keep Thesaurus.com open at all times. Never use the same word too many times in a row if you can find a synonym for it, unless the point is the Repetition. 2 Focus on character, no one cares if the character does cool stuff if they don't care about the character. 3 Trust your audience to be smart enough to follow along your story. If you can subtly imply information to people they will get it, and you don't need to have exposition. So rather than saying "As your Assistant it is my duty to help you" you could have it be Boss: "What would I ever do without you?" Assistant: "Hire another assistant."
If I recall correctly, in Alfonso nations interview with caple, caple says that you can think of pablojack as a different character to the BBM one who just has the same name. So my headcanon is that Pablo was some loser who really admired the actual wheeljack and nicknamed himself wheeljack because he wanted to be like him, and now all the other autobots think he’s a loser too. Maybe that’s why he’s in South America by himself, nobody wants to hang out with him As for the actual reason I think he was meant to be a different character but of course hasbro needs that name recognition so they gave him wheeljacks name
Way I see it is more of a similar case to how the infected bot at Delphi in IDW's MTMTE/Lost Light comic series who also had the name Prowl but wasn't the Autobot Prowl. Could also provide some proof that Cybertronian names are commonly used. An example being that the name Wheeljack might be the same level as people with the name Ryan.
Okay, I got the three pack, and I have story upon story upon story of just stuff that has happened with this Wheeljack, to the point I can confidently say that my Wheeljack is the most special/interesting Wheeljack in the world. First off I found this Wheeljack at a Target (duh!) But the thing was, he was out of the box, just lying on the shelf right next to Cheetor and Nightbird (who were still in the box). So I stuck him in the box and My friend Ronin lifted up the bottom shelf and stuck him underneath the shelf. So he was hidden from April 26th to June 5th and when I get him, I run into a friend and he has two friends with him and they both ask me about what I got and I immediately capture the interest of my friends and these two girls, and I'm just sitting on the red spheres that some Targets have outside of them, transforming a little brown/creme van while three people are captivated at this miraculous thing. A few weeks later I randomly posted a picture of Wheeljack on my Instagram and I tagged his actor, Cristo Fernández, in the 0.0000000000001% chance he'd like it. Well, he liked it, and apparently he liked it so much that he PUT IT ON HIS INSTAGRAM STORY!!!! He also tagged the official ROTB account too. But I didn't notice that at the time because I was too shocked and too insanely happy, It was the coolest thing that had happened that day. The two days later I just finished riding my bike, and I check my Transformers Instagram Group chat (The DRIPTICONZ) and the chat is blowing up and trying to get my attention, and the reason why is because the official ROTB account but Cristo Fernández's story on THEIR story which had MY POST ON IT!!! Once again I was absolutely thrilled and it officially makes the biggest shoutout I've ever received. So after these occurrences I'm very proud to call this bot Wheeljack and I accept him as my own. Let's hope this little guy gets into more wacky/cool adventures.
Great video as always buddy! Your 1x1 Lego caught me off guard 😂. I was wondering if once the spoiler ban is lifted from RotB have you considered doing a live video to discuss it? It'd be great to do like an interactive Convo that your fandom could all get in! 😁
the head on my nightbird no joke was glued to the balljoint out of the box i had to go in with a knife and remove all the glue and now it turns but still barley
@@PerspectiveEnd yea I get the beachcomber thing, but Wheeljack is a more recognizable name for marketing. Keep in mind, I’m a wheeljack fan. But seeing that altmode made me smile a little
What's confusing about wheeljacks design is 2 things. 1. It doesn't make sense in this new reboot not bayverse universe as he looked very g1 in bumblebee so his drastic change from what he was to this nerd makes zero sense without some form of robot plastic surgery 2. The director of rotb himself openly said he's a huge fan of the series Transformers Prime which you can see in Primes design as well as the fact every bot uses a hand cannon. I bring this up as even in Prime Wheeljack looked way more like g1 than the monstrosity he became in this movie. My guess is maybe the hippie van was actually meant to be bulkhead because it would very much fit bulkhead but for whatever reason the producers really don't like bulkhead.
Theoretically they could argue that the Guy in Bumblebee was unnamed so it could have been not Wheeljack. And yes this feels WAY more like Prime than it does G1, Beast Wars, or Bay.
i honestly find the wheeljack debate kind of overblown im not fazed by it but im not try and die on this hill lol I do love the glasses are removable and tbh if the film wanted to distance him from the classic incarnation, they should've went harder I heard that some of the cutscenes implied he and Arcee had a fling in the past and tbh id much rather they commit to that than just cleave half his character to be a REVERSE skids and mudflap lol
What do you mean they should have went Harder? There's nothing Left of Wheejack here? And yes, he and Arcee were supposed to be Dating in the movie, but all that got cut.
@@PerspectiveEnd the fact the arceejack scenes got cut shows they didnt go hard enough. they erased the classic traits to get a blank slate but w/o ANY traits, its just stuck AS a blank slate
Wait, you had to buy this set to get Cheetor? I thought they sold him separately, no? He definitely has been where I am, and I'm questioning if I should because I already own the SS version.
I think they should have named Pablo after one of the South American original characters, they have no personality and no one would be mad if they had their designs changed, so maybe something like Volks since he is a Volkswagen Bus.
I feel like Volks would have been a bit Problematic, what with the whole history of South America being where German Officers and Scientists Fled after WWII. I can see why they wouldn't want that to be his name.
I don't know what's the worst: The entire misinterpretation done with them (at least with Pablojack, I don't know what to think exactly about Nightbird) or the little to none screen time they get.
I Like wheeljack I have him with my ss86 ironhide but he is so small it looks so weird when he is smaller than red alert and other figures. Also I would love to see beachcomber in live action but I’m thankful it wasn’t that design. Finally night bird sucks I threw it across my room like 5 times because I have no care for it, it took like 15 minutes to transform yesterday it is so frustrating with all the panels.
Seriously most of the wheeljacks I saw store had extremely tight heads like they were gonna snap off which is not good with having a socket made out of clear plastic. I only found one with a decent head that didn’t have scratches all over it but the night bird in the pack I bought has a somewhat to tightly tolerance head joint still works, but feels off
Dude, that is brilliant idea of Wheeljack should been Beachcomber... I never thought of that... also cannot undo the "slingkini" now when I see him... Great review overall
Hey perspective you might have noticed i stopped commenting and thats because i simply just get tired of commenting hahaha but i just wanted to let u know that im always watching ur newest vids 😁
I dont typically buy movie stuf but man did that movie actually make me like itself so much that i want them, full well knowing that they dont fit in cause i collect chug and not movies Although i mainly wanna get mirage cause HE WAS FUN but i do wanna get some others from the cast, also i can be the only one who hooes that when they make stratosphere he ends up a comander like that would be IDEAL for his size itd also allow S.S to have its first commander class figure
Brown plastics gives me GPS. The color edits made Him more appealing, if anything we'd probably spot him better in the background at the end. The weapon sword idea was smart for vehicle mode's Spoiler, if it was there.
Personality wise ROTB Pablo fits Beachcomber WAYYYYYYY more.... However the writers were probably thinking a guy like Beachcomber wouldn't be in a jungle with no beach around. I am honestly wishing that the extended cut on bluray hopefully has more scenes with him. The movie can easily be increased to 2 and a half with all that parts they cut out like Transit, Wheeljack and Arcee stuff and more Cheeto and Rhinox.
Apparently it's just a Coincidence, that he's actually like Beachcomber, Supposedly the name and the Design were forced on Caple Jr, by the executives. Which sounds like a really Bay thing to do.
@@PerspectiveEnd I doubt it was bay this time, it was probably either Lorenzo or hasbro execs
Unlike Lorenzo, bay is no longer creatively involved in the franchise at all. He was only invited to the set for day because he had a break from another movie he was filming at the time
Or uhhhhh 4 hours?
@@LemonConsumption also bay hates this franchise. So i don't know why he would care about the characters.
@@xavierwalko4175 You don't need to add everything back as that would ruin the pass. An extra 30 would allow the final battle to have a bit more going on and the middle to have more character moments.
I think the main issue with nightbirds sword is it looks more like she’s going around bonking people with a sheath rather than the sword itself
You are not wrong.
The fact that Wheeljack turns into a TV repair van tells me that he was supposed to be a mechanic in the movie, but the movie was cut down so much that any indication of that was lost.
I really can see the Beachcomber thing. It would have been really cool to have a lesser known Autobot in a live action movie.
I mean to be fair they Did Crosshairs, but that was about as different a dude as Wheeljack is to Pablo. But it would be nice to see a Relatively accurate anyone.
Maybe the Nightbird is so sharp because it's trying to make up for the puny kitchen knife she comes with
You mean the butter knife it comes with.
@@PerspectiveEndmy apologies
The edit of Pablo as Ironhide reminds me of that one simpsons joke of the buff nerd played by their Arny parody character
That would be funny to see in a TF Movie.
@@PerspectiveEnd “The geeks shall inherit the earth” and then just impaled a decepticon with another decepticon
I will never understand why they've never used the Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen mold for a fembot, especially if it's one that has the hood chest to begin with.
Big Booba
Might be the lack of wings on most of them
@@timeman7753 ss86 Jazz could work for those without. Pretty sure the IDW Tf vs Terminator take on Arcee was expected to use a Datsun base, given the hatchback shins and grill bust, kinda surprised no one has made one of that rendition, the design slapped in my opinion.
Honestly your iron hide idea is great and would love to see something like it happen
Yeah I vibe with it.
i had come to terms with Wheeljack’s design a while ago, and while I wish there was at least *a* scene of him inventing something or displaying a more impressive invention, i’m still chill with this being a Wheeljack
that being said, there are at least two candidates that could’ve worked better with this template imo
like you said, in terms of personality, Beachcomber, for all the reasons you mentioned (although his whole “pacifism” schtick would likely have to be cut, which is what really made him stand out to me.)
or my idea, in terms of design, Ironfist/Fisitron (same general shape in robot mode, roughly the same colours, similar geek/nerd personality, and his tfa version had goggles/glasses. and honestly, he’s bordering on the line of obscure enough to where I don’t think many people would have an issue with the creative liberties.)
Pablo: should've been named Tow-Line instead because news van.
Nightbird: can't complain much, she certainly looks like a new iteration of Nightbird.
I could be cool with them changing Beachcomber's Altmode. I mean hippy vans were often found on Beaches.
@@PerspectiveEnd It's time you were enlightened, sirrah: ruclips.net/video/e8-byi9vCrU/видео.html
@@PerspectiveEndhe's also a pacifist and a VW bus is certainly a better choice of an alt mode for that than a buggy.
That was a MAXIMUM ankle pivot on the nightbird
Damn it, I failed you all.
Glad to see you have a plan for youtube👍. Sounds solid enough, hope you can pull it off
I mean I'm always trying different plans.
If I had to make a guess, the writers were saddled with the Wheeljack name before they came up with the personality and had to use it or die. It's the 2000’s again when names were meaningless so long as Hasbro still wants to use them.
This is a quote from an interview not too long ago. "When I got into the film, they had already wanted the Wheeljack part of this picture, but they wanted to redesign it and actually lean more into the science and nerdy part of Wheeljack. They felt like the Wheeljack - I don't know if this is the studio or Hasbro who was here before me - he was kind of falling into the lane of the other characters. Kind of tough. Ironhide, and those kind of vibes. Just didn't feel like enough variety across the board."
Yep, I can confirm Wheeljack’s glasses are easily breakable. Went to transform mine for the second time after unboxing him, and the front of the van caught the corner of his glasses and snapped them clean in half.
Yeah I've heard that from a few people.
Never even thought of Beachcomber. That's genius
Speaking of Wheeljack's blaster, it kinda reminds me of a vintage Flash Gordon gun I saw somewhere. What if Wheeljack became a fan of old science fiction radio serials? Now, that would be entertaining to see.
That is absolutely the kind of thing I was thinking of when I said it looked like an old 50 Sci-Fi Laser Gun.
Ok thank you. I knew I wasn't crazy for thinking about beachcomber
Indeed it is a brilliant observation.
I’m excited to see your reaction to the figure reveals that just came out
Next week.
It’s so hard to get Pablo’s feet out of robot mode.
With your factory mix up of parts for Nightbird, you missed out on being able to turn her bluntest sword ever wielded by a robot ninja into the most awkward spoiler ever seen on a sportscar.
Truly a loss.
So Wheeljack is Ironhide-Perceptor-Beachcomber? Great job.
More than he is Wheeljack at least.
I actually really like wheeljack’s transformation, one of the best most effectively engineered transformations in a while in my opinion, every part of the van is used in some way in robot mode, which is always a plus in my book
I mean I wouldn't hate it if it weren't for the bad plastic, and harsh Clearances.
Hopefully the single release has better plastic............ then again there's a chance it might have worst plastic
despite not liking the name Wheeljack for Pablo I quite liked Pablo. He seems like the least problematic Autobots tied with gf Arcee. Bumblebee is dead, primes depressed, mirage is rowdy as all hell, and the Scottish dude is falling apart in half the scenes he’s in
I mean he only had 2 lines in the movie.
True
The suspenders are meant to sit under the headlight flaps in robot mode, something I found out during transformation (via instructions). I would have never known to move those either lol
Doesn't make a huge difference visually though 😅
ohh he’s just beachcomber, so that’s why I love him so much
I need him
Makes perfect sense.
Ive heard that you can swap out wheeljacks head for his bee movie one, and considering that my bumblebee wheeljack broke, i might just get this figure and do that as i think everything but the head looks "alright"
I like the new format idea.
Thank you!
I swear I’m the only one that genuinely likes the new design for Wheeljack.
I love how expensive he is in the film and the overall original design
(I’m not the biggest fan of the tiny eyed Wheeljack from the Bumblebee movie but the mask and ears are still cool as fuck tho and should’ve stayed in the film)
There are other's who love it. I don't understand why, it's got nothing to do with Wheeljack.
I mean he could have been exactly as Expressive and been Beachcomber.
I'm not super in love with the BB design my self. The ears were cool, but the rest of it could have been better, how ever I would take that happily as a version of Wheeljack, even if I think there are area's it could be improved.
Personally I adore this new wheeljack design and I now use this version of wheeljack as my definitive take on the character. I'm a sucker for out there interpretations of existing characters (cybertron metroplex, rotf devastator, etc.) And this js no exception
If they just made the head the same with the bumblebee movie it would be much more acceptable even with the shitty accent
I can definetly see the Beachcomber comparison
Yeah that blew my mind to realize.
I'm gonna be honest as a huge wheeljack fan as he is my favorite transformer ever.
I kinda loved wheeljack in rotb he was kinda adorable
But he's not Wheeljack in any way shape or form other than name?
🤓
@@PerspectiveEnd Well, in the IDW comics there was a bot who was infected with a plague that had the name Prowl but was absolutely nothing like Autobot Prowl. Just shared the name. We could say that he is a completely different character but just so happens to share the name Wheeljack.
@@PerspectiveEndI understand that and put all my bias aside and accepted he was a new take and actaully loved him not my fav wheeljack not even top 10 top 15 but I just loved him
i agree with your take on Wheeljack. in my AU the hippie van is beachcombers alt mode and wheeljack is a dodge tow truck (he's also a drunkard)
I mean that makes sense for both.
I personally like wheeljacks design but personally its not wheeljack it should have been beachcomber
That's what I'm saying.
OMG HE LITERALLY IS BEACHCOMBER, I hate that i never made that connection, why is Hasbro allergic to good decisions
I feel as though no one would've bat an eye at the design if it was. This alternate history makes my mind dizzy with stupid.
Here's the thing, I don't know that that was intentional. I've seen a comment supposedly made by the director where he said that he wanted to make an Accurate Wheeljack but the Execs where dead set on Wheeljack being made into a Giant nerd in design with a different personality for some reason.
I can’t wait for Beachcomber to show up in the sequel and invent the Dinobots and other wacky inventions.
Tbh even tho a lot of people dislike pablo wheeljack I love the dorky bastard. Wish we got a lil more of him in the movie him and transit
I got this 3 pack for 10 dollars at a swap meet, I've loved all of them, I've custom painted Cheetor to make him fit a little better with studio series and same with wheeljack, my main issue is just the lower legs with nightbird and honestly I think for around 20-30 bucks this set could be worth it but $60 is a crime and not worth it at all
Yeah I think for 10 bucks I too would have been blown away.
I have a theory about Nightbird: Nightbird was originally a conehead seeker who either scanned a car vehicle mode instead of a jet vehicle mode
An interesting Idea at least.
I think she's a reformatted Bayverse Barricade
@@PerspectiveEnd If you watched the movie, Nightbird had a car alt mode but had jet boosters and wings to fly (which nice nod to Shatter) and the head design is similar to GE Dirge/Thrust/Ramjet. So, if in the director's cut there's a scene where the Terrorcons scan alt modes, we could most likely see Nightbird having a more seeker-like body. If not, we could assume that either Nightbird scanned a car mode before becoming a herald of Unicron or after becoming a Herald of Unicron Nightbird was upgraded (similar to the G1 movie with Megatron being upgraded to Galvatron).
They did my boy Wheeljack dirty. And never though that Wheeljack was like beachcome thanks for pointing that out.
Happy to unravel the mystery of Wheelcomber/Beachjack for everyone.
I'm hoping the inevitable Studio Series Mightbird will be better than this one. She was definitely my favorite charachter in the movie
I thought she was incredibly bland
You were AFFRONTED by them just a few days ago for having only like 3 lines.
@@PerspectiveEnd Still better than the rest of the garbage fire
Someone sounds like a Nightbird Stan
@@PerspectiveEndand one of them was ouch
When my best friend first told me that Pablo design was Wheeljack I thought he was actually trolling me but then I found out he was telling the truth and I went to claw my eyes out
I feel your pain.
I don’t like how wheeljacks voice is Spanish when we was a good voice in dotm and the bumblebee movie cybertron scene
youve made me see this new wheeljack design in a very different way, im impressed and horrified
This wheeljack is a completely different character. so I made my own headcanon for the guy. Pablo is actually wheeljack's apprentice. Under his tutelage Pablo would follow in Wheeljack's footsteps as an inventor. But would not get to complete his training because of the war and later, the great exodus. Prime and his team were on the last lines of defense after the ark's lifted. Pablo remained at Iacon to try to save whoever he can. So he wouldn't accompany Wheeljack and Prime's team at the launch pad. we see in the bumblebee movie what happened next. Prime would stay behind to cover the other's escape and get captured. Wheeljack included. But there was one problem. Jackie's pod was damaged. So it fell back to cybertron. He survived the crash and being the mad genius he was would always have a backup plan. In this case, another pod. A prototype that he never used in his workshop. and there was a chance he would blow up. But he would take the risk. So he would head back to Iacon plowing through some vehicons and seekers and would find pablo. With little time they would gather whatever gear and energon they had left and ready it for launch. But the decepticons would close in on their position. Pablo tried to volunteer to stay behind and cover wheeljack's escape. only for wheeljack to force him into the pod. Just as the decepticons broke through the doors Jackie would push the button to launch Pablo into space. His final words to him; "Til all are one, kid". Being a badass Jackie would cut down some cons to cover his escape. Pablo would watch in horror as jackie would get blasted by Shockwave in the chest. At the same time the pod finally launched into space. So he would not see his death.
aftermath: Pablo would name himself after his savior and mentor to keep the name of wheeljack alive. He would receive prime's message from earth and would join the rendezvous with ironhide, arcee, mirage, ratchet, brawn, jazz, and sideswipe. (stratosphere would arrive a year or two after the rest)
So that is my headcanon. I kinda wish I could write for these films. I love this franchise so much and will never stop collecting them. Hope yall liked it.
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@@staples. hey I'll take it. Not the best but better than most.
See I dont think you need to go this far with the lore to explain it, you just say "Tis Beachcomber and you are done." Though at least you gave any justification for it at all. Unlike the movie.
@@PerspectiveEnd Im a lore freak ik lol.
If you ever review ss crosshairs make sure to be careful with the windshield bit and make sure to keep it as far away from rubbing alcohol because it eats through the plastic
what is it with movie characters looking like different characters then the ones they share names here, its like the unicron trilogy all over again
like DOTM sentinel looks like alpha trion
Armada Wheeljack looks like a cross between sideswipe and ricochet
Armada Blurr should have been named crosshair given the fact that he's a sniper
Armada Cyclonus should have just been either Whirl or Vortex since they're both helicopters and both have questionable sanity
Energon downshift looks for more like wheeljack
cliffjumper looks like beachcomber and even borrows his colours at one point
and then we have ROTB wheeljack which also looks like beachcober but brown
Well there's at least a Reasonable Explanation with the Armada stuff in that they were protecting Copyright with an Existing animation they had no ability to change.
This is apparently just Capriciousness on the Executive's Parts.
Will never not amaze me how they had a scientist available for the movie that was known to repair bots and create inventions. chose the worst option for everyone.
Guess Wheeljack wanted to take the movie’s quality with him before he went.
What do you mean he chose the worst option for everyone?
I mean the worse option for everyone. Could have easily fixed a good chunk of the problems in the movie while keeping g1 fans happy, while keeping casual fans happy. Don’t know how to explain it further
Thanks for the rieview!
I am so glad that these are not available in my coutry yet, or maybe never. Will get cheetor, but wait for SS Pablo.
Well considering they come in a 3 Pack they should be easy to ignore.
Wheeljack looks like he could be from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle universe
I just got back from rotb, and your video on it! Both were great!!
Glad you wound up enjoying the movie so much, and my video on it.
I’m sol glad here in Italy Amazon sells these as separate toys. So I just bought Chhetor and Airazor.
Interesting. Yeah that's not the case here in the states.
Wheeljack's speaking voice sounded like G1 Cosmos to me. I actually quite liked that character, but he was only 'Wheeljack' in name only.
I didn't hear any Petter Lorre in that performance?
You mess with Pablo, and you mess with me!!!
Hey Perspective! (Yes, it’s me…again). I’m not sure if I’ve asked this question before or not so forgive me if I’ve forgotten. But what’s your advice to aspiring TF fan writers like myself?? Stop Motion, Novels, Comics, etc.
1 Keep Thesaurus.com open at all times. Never use the same word too many times in a row if you can find a synonym for it, unless the point is the Repetition.
2 Focus on character, no one cares if the character does cool stuff if they don't care about the character.
3 Trust your audience to be smart enough to follow along your story. If you can subtly imply information to people they will get it, and you don't need to have exposition.
So rather than saying "As your Assistant it is my duty to help you" you could have it be
Boss: "What would I ever do without you?"
Assistant: "Hire another assistant."
@@PerspectiveEnd thanks man! Much appreciated
If I recall correctly, in Alfonso nations interview with caple, caple says that you can think of pablojack as a different character to the BBM one who just has the same name. So my headcanon is that Pablo was some loser who really admired the actual wheeljack and nicknamed himself wheeljack because he wanted to be like him, and now all the other autobots think he’s a loser too. Maybe that’s why he’s in South America by himself, nobody wants to hang out with him
As for the actual reason I think he was meant to be a different character but of course hasbro needs that name recognition so they gave him wheeljacks name
I do hear the name and Design were kind of Foisted on him.
quite possibly.
Way I see it is more of a similar case to how the infected bot at Delphi in IDW's MTMTE/Lost Light comic series who also had the name Prowl but wasn't the Autobot Prowl. Could also provide some proof that Cybertronian names are commonly used. An example being that the name Wheeljack might be the same level as people with the name Ryan.
Nah. His words were misinterpreted. He was talking about DOTM Que and ROTB Wheeljack.
This design is a Wheeljack design. Get over it.
@@lukasgemmill8084 no he wasn’t lol. Q was never bought up in that conversation. Both Alfonso and him specifically talked about the BBM wheeljack
When i did see Pablo in the movie was definitely a transformers moment
It's frustrating that the Wheeljack single pack isn't in my areas yet it's in other countries, Hasbro's distribution is horrible 🤦
Honestly the only one I want single packed is Cheetor.
Just like Rhinox, I'm still waiting on Mainline wave 2's deluxes, which also include Mirage Jr, the son of Mirage who was closer to Jazz.
Yeah I've not found much from the movies line my elf.
Okay, I got the three pack, and I have story upon story upon story of just stuff that has happened with this Wheeljack, to the point I can confidently say that my Wheeljack is the most special/interesting Wheeljack in the world. First off I found this Wheeljack at a Target (duh!) But the thing was, he was out of the box, just lying on the shelf right next to Cheetor and Nightbird (who were still in the box). So I stuck him in the box and My friend Ronin lifted up the bottom shelf and stuck him underneath the shelf. So he was hidden from April 26th to June 5th and when I get him, I run into a friend and he has two friends with him and they both ask me about what I got and I immediately capture the interest of my friends and these two girls, and I'm just sitting on the red spheres that some Targets have outside of them, transforming a little brown/creme van while three people are captivated at this miraculous thing. A few weeks later I randomly posted a picture of Wheeljack on my Instagram and I tagged his actor, Cristo Fernández, in the 0.0000000000001% chance he'd like it. Well, he liked it, and apparently he liked it so much that he PUT IT ON HIS INSTAGRAM STORY!!!! He also tagged the official ROTB account too. But I didn't notice that at the time because I was too shocked and too insanely happy, It was the coolest thing that had happened that day. The two days later I just finished riding my bike, and I check my Transformers Instagram Group chat (The DRIPTICONZ) and the chat is blowing up and trying to get my attention, and the reason why is because the official ROTB account but Cristo Fernández's story on THEIR story which had MY POST ON IT!!! Once again I was absolutely thrilled and it officially makes the biggest shoutout I've ever received. So after these occurrences I'm very proud to call this bot Wheeljack and I accept him as my own. Let's hope this little guy gets into more wacky/cool adventures.
Great video as always buddy! Your 1x1 Lego caught me off guard 😂. I was wondering if once the spoiler ban is lifted from RotB have you considered doing a live video to discuss it? It'd be great to do like an interactive Convo that your fandom could all get in! 😁
Thank you very much.
The 1x1 Legos are the most deadly.
I have considered doing a live video on it yes.
@@PerspectiveEnd good man, do it!
And with the clearance as tight as it is for Pablo-comber-jack, there's no hope of giving him a spare head to be either bot.
I was gonna go with Iron Perchcomber😂
the head on my nightbird no joke was glued to the balljoint out of the box i had to go in with a knife and remove all the glue and now it turns but still barley
I'm 95% agree with your review 😁
Happy to speak so well for you.
I hope their studio series figures are better
Great review.
Thank you so much!
Papi Pablo hit different, so I didn’t mind his design. But I’m rocking 15 pairs of rose tinted glasses so there’s that.
I don't know how it Hit different, but I'd just say it felt like Beachcomber.
@@PerspectiveEnd yea I get the beachcomber thing, but Wheeljack is a more recognizable name for marketing. Keep in mind, I’m a wheeljack fan. But seeing that altmode made me smile a little
Robot mode still sucks, don’t like reinforcing stereotypes
Rise of the beasts Wheeljack is just Wheeljack in name only
Wheeljack in name only WINO.
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Mine broke twice …
Yeah people need to be careful.
Sorry about yours.
2:09 drake been real quite since this figure dropped
I have no idea what that means.
@@PerspectiveEnd it's probably if u don't
I’ve seen a lot of mixed reception for these figures specifically some love them others hate them
What's confusing about wheeljacks design is 2 things.
1. It doesn't make sense in this new reboot not bayverse universe as he looked very g1 in bumblebee so his drastic change from what he was to this nerd makes zero sense without some form of robot plastic surgery
2. The director of rotb himself openly said he's a huge fan of the series Transformers Prime which you can see in Primes design as well as the fact every bot uses a hand cannon. I bring this up as even in Prime Wheeljack looked way more like g1 than the monstrosity he became in this movie. My guess is maybe the hippie van was actually meant to be bulkhead because it would very much fit bulkhead but for whatever reason the producers really don't like bulkhead.
Theoretically they could argue that the Guy in Bumblebee was unnamed so it could have been not Wheeljack.
And yes this feels WAY more like Prime than it does G1, Beast Wars, or Bay.
Great video! Also, what happened to your legacy slag and sludge review? I've searched up everything that I can think of and I still can't find it.
It's still up. It's only 16 videos older than this one.
i honestly find the wheeljack debate kind of overblown im not fazed by it but im not try and die on this hill lol
I do love the glasses are removable and tbh if the film wanted to distance him from the classic incarnation, they should've went harder
I heard that some of the cutscenes implied he and Arcee had a fling in the past and tbh id much rather they commit to that than just cleave half his character to be a REVERSE skids and mudflap lol
What do you mean they should have went Harder? There's nothing Left of Wheejack here?
And yes, he and Arcee were supposed to be Dating in the movie, but all that got cut.
@@PerspectiveEnd the fact the arceejack scenes got cut shows they didnt go hard enough.
they erased the classic traits to get a blank slate but w/o ANY traits, its just stuck AS a blank slate
4:17 I am working on a custom Ironhide use the Rotb Wheeljack mainline figure
I don't think he realizes that main line cheetor has a separate release that just is very difficult to find
Wait, you had to buy this set to get Cheetor? I thought they sold him separately, no? He definitely has been where I am, and I'm questioning if I should because I already own the SS version.
Yeah over here he's part of a 3 Pack.
In America, you can only get the deluxe mainline figures in a 3 pack.
I think they should have named Pablo after one of the South American original characters, they have no personality and no one would be mad if they had their designs changed, so maybe something like Volks since he is a Volkswagen Bus.
I feel like Volks would have been a bit Problematic, what with the whole history of South America being where German Officers and Scientists Fled after WWII. I can see why they wouldn't want that to be his name.
Every time I see wheeljack from RotB I think “Philmore” from Cars.
Never watched any of those movies my self.
I'm just wondering what the design process was for the nightbird figure
Probably a lot of meth, and graph paper.
man i was so happy to go to a movie theater for the first time and the first one i watched was transformers rise of a beasts
Really? That was your first time. Glad you loved it.
@@PerspectiveEnd yes i am a closed boy not in a creepy weeb way
I think you should take the figure you hate most, bring them to a parking lot, and go full Sid mode and blow them up.
Well I don't think I need a Parking Lot for that. I live in the Boonies.
Like I said back in the roasting Pablo short, this Wheeljack can join his nightmarish bro from DOTM back in hell
YES!!! That is Beachcomber!!!
Yeah it blew my mind to realize that.
I don't know what's the worst: The entire misinterpretation done with them (at least with Pablojack, I don't know what to think exactly about Nightbird) or the little to none screen time they get.
Yeah, there are so many characters in this who get nothing devoted to them. Once again the humans take center stage.
I Like wheeljack I have him with my ss86 ironhide but he is so small it looks so weird when he is smaller than red alert and other figures. Also I would love to see beachcomber in live action but I’m thankful it wasn’t that design. Finally night bird sucks I threw it across my room like 5 times because I have no care for it, it took like 15 minutes to transform yesterday it is so frustrating with all the panels.
Have you seen the previsualization model for Scourge? If Pablo was meant to be Beachcomber, then Scourge was meant to be Tarn.
Just bought them and mirage yesterday 😂
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Personally really like all of them
Glad you are enjoying them more than me.
Apparently a different team than the one working on SS and Legacy worked on the ROTB mainline
A little unrelated but am I the only one who thought Scourge was Beast Wars Megatron with that pokey spike arm?
Probably?
The chest on pablo flips up and the suspenders slide under it
I have never seen anyone do that? What would be he point of the suspenders if they just disappear?
@@PerspectiveEnd by slide under i mean the chest locks down on them so that they are secure
Seriously most of the wheeljacks I saw store had extremely tight heads like they were gonna snap off which is not good with having a socket made out of clear plastic. I only found one with a decent head that didn’t have scratches all over it but the night bird in the pack I bought has a somewhat to tightly tolerance head joint still works, but feels off
I wish they used his bumblebee movie wheel jacks head
I actually really loved wheeljacks design and his personality
"A little racist, hermano"
If you don't have them, look into getting the Yolopark non-transforming figures. I'm curious about what you think based on the price.
Honestly, vechicle choice for Wheeljack is interesting, it's nice to see this car as a bot
Dude, that is brilliant idea of Wheeljack should been Beachcomber... I never thought of that... also cannot undo the "slingkini" now when I see him... Great review overall
Hey perspective you might have noticed i stopped commenting and thats because i simply just get tired of commenting hahaha but i just wanted to let u know that im always watching ur newest vids 😁
Sorry to hear that, but thanks for keeping me informed so I don't start to wonder.
I just ended up buying a dropkick and painting into nightbird
I dont typically buy movie stuf but man did that movie actually make me like itself so much that i want them, full well knowing that they dont fit in cause i collect chug and not movies
Although i mainly wanna get mirage cause HE WAS FUN but i do wanna get some others from the cast, also i can be the only one who hooes that when they make stratosphere he ends up a comander like that would be IDEAL for his size itd also allow S.S to have its first commander class figure
I'm not even sure if they are making a Stratosphere at all at this point.
Brown plastics gives me GPS.
The color edits made Him more appealing, if anything we'd probably spot him better in the background at the end.
The weapon sword idea was smart for vehicle mode's Spoiler, if it was there.
kinda looks like nightbird swallowed a magnet than blew up another bot and rolled in it.