Is it Worth It To Buy A Commander Deck From Wilds Of Eldraine? | Magic: The Gathering Product Review

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  Год назад +37

    Enter The Void: The Collector Booster Box Game for Wilds Of Eldraine: ruclips.net/video/i14FWsifWCM/видео.html

    • @oni739
      @oni739 Год назад +1

      Did your virtue and valor deck have the wrong tokens? Apparently some decks have been released with the blue/black decks tokens instead of the correct tokens

    • @benjaminlehman3221
      @benjaminlehman3221 Год назад

      Prof, can I buy the art from your deck box kickstarter? I love my play mat and would love to have it printed for my wall!!

    • @krakencreations6266
      @krakencreations6266 Год назад +1

      Your first and second pick text is wrong in the video, by the way. Might want an edit.
      ruclips.net/video/z4EwOTdl7vU/видео.htmlsi=1Ym8zvAYxyFLW3Gq&t=696

    • @destroyer2417
      @destroyer2417 Год назад +3

      at 11:35 youre saying that you prefer the Fae deck, but your visual puts the Enchanctment deck as your first pick?

    • @tjbuchholz746
      @tjbuchholz746 Год назад +3

      Hey prof. at 11:35 the 1st and 2nd pick labels are switched.

  • @DarkSmashball
    @DarkSmashball Год назад +1055

    I think the 1st Pick and 2nd Pick labels are switched at 11:35

    • @ianmarcosamaniego3605
      @ianmarcosamaniego3605 Год назад +83

      I just opened the comments to see this

    • @bearcrimes
      @bearcrimes Год назад +48

      this drove me insane lol

    • @NBultreys
      @NBultreys Год назад +23

      These days I assume any error that glaring is intentional to generate comments

    • @Deebofreebo
      @Deebofreebo Год назад +5

      Says something that these are so dull you can’t tell them apart lol

    • @sailordaigurren8225
      @sailordaigurren8225 Год назад +8

      Seems like even the Prof is having quality control issues

  • @drpibisback7680
    @drpibisback7680 Год назад +882

    I love that the professor can't even hide his disdain for how much product overload there is now.

    • @auraaetherbladesigma6939
      @auraaetherbladesigma6939 Год назад +40

      Yeah, we all hate this product overload… =_= this is why I hate the practice of Publicly traded companies and stock

    • @osvaldoramirez805
      @osvaldoramirez805 Год назад +2

      Haha no kidding but he's not wrong 😆

    • @Boyahda
      @Boyahda Год назад +18

      Consume consume consume consume consume

    • @matthewteo3111
      @matthewteo3111 Год назад +21

      I don't understand hating product overload. Literally just don't feel obliged to follow and buy everything.
      I don't give a shit about Masters or LOTR. I like Eldraine and Doctor Who. So I just follow news and will purchase those products. So easy.

    • @brw147
      @brw147 Год назад +16

      I don't hate this "product overload." I think it's great because I can pick and choose what I want. I got Fae Dominion because I like the faerie theme. I bought the enchantment precon when Commander Masters came out. For MOM I bought the Call for Backup precon. You don't have to buy all of the decks for every release. Just pick and choose what sounds interesting. I'd hate to go back to a few decks each year with the same vanilla themes.

  • @fate3071
    @fate3071 Год назад +221

    As someone who only collects precons, seeing two GW enchantment decks back to back is a bit of a slap in the face. But I've had my eye on a faerie deck since i started playing years ago, so the only way i could be happier is if we got a dinosaur deck in Ixalan later this year

    • @thebraveguy9808
      @thebraveguy9808 Год назад +8

      Probably will.

    • @CodenameJD
      @CodenameJD Год назад +14

      I'm more inclined to go for this one first because screw Commander Masters, but second because the Commander Masters enchantments deck came immediately after I'd picked up two Abzan precons, from LotR and Phyrexia.

    • @josephrion3514
      @josephrion3514 Год назад +2

      In a month we will get doctor who. In two months we'll get lost caverns if ixalan. So don't worry. New commander decks every month.

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 Год назад +2

      @josephrion3514 oh don't worry I know. By the time Ixalan comes out I'll have all 110 (112?) Precons

    • @enoesiw
      @enoesiw Год назад +1

      ​@@CodenameJD Narci, Composer of Spring, and Battle at the Helvault are all cards exclusive to CMM that are worth picking up before they increase further in price. Grabbing the WoE enchantments and using Narci as the Commander could go a long way if you upgrade with a lot of the new bargain spells.

  • @DreadedEnding
    @DreadedEnding Год назад +712

    Unfortunately, I don’t find myself bothering to ask the “is it worth it” question much anymore…

    • @thatepicwizardguy
      @thatepicwizardguy Год назад +64

      yup. the answer is almost always no... like 99% of the time it's no lol

    • @Duskrequim
      @Duskrequim Год назад +34

      Basically the only reason you would pick these decks up would be if the majority of the cards you dont have already. For instance.. the enchantments deck is a huge NO.. I have everything in it but the new cards and they do not impress me. HOWEVER I have almost none of the Faeries and have wanted to make a Faerie deck thus its a great pick up.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Год назад +7

      That's how I feel about the entire game tbh.

    • @doomkingraye7692
      @doomkingraye7692 Год назад +3

      The faeries deck is defo a yes for me!

    • @themisvoul1045
      @themisvoul1045 Год назад +4

      @@Duskrequim even if you dont have the cards it's mtg, all cards already exist all effects are the same for years with different arts and names. I dont see the point in ''new'' cards

  • @kepleredmundson4699
    @kepleredmundson4699 Год назад +40

    3:52 The professor saying sheeeesh just might be the best thing I’ve ever heard

  • @Crimson_Fist
    @Crimson_Fist Год назад +109

    Reminder that the first ever set of commander precons had absolute bangers like Kaalia, Animar, Mimeoplasm, Zedru, and more.

    • @scaredycat3146
      @scaredycat3146 Год назад +11

      They played pretty horrible though tbh. I've build better commander decks out of sealed pools.

    • @Chiddyboo12
      @Chiddyboo12 Год назад +1

      Those decks were mostly garbage. I still have a couple of mine unchanged.

    • @PsychoEditor
      @PsychoEditor Год назад

      Still have and love Zedru

  • @JaysonPrime
    @JaysonPrime Год назад +53

    At $35, I found the Aura deck to be of a great value since I was getting many of those cards for my aura deck I was already building.

  • @Stweaner
    @Stweaner Год назад +30

    These decks most remind me of the $20 decks we got with Zendikar Rising, Commander Legends, and Kaldheim. Especially with how all the new cards are extremely tailored to the archetypes

  • @philippniemann8842
    @philippniemann8842 Год назад +321

    It has finally happened! 😃
    I am no longer hyperfocused on mtg!!!
    They have overdone it so hard that they finally broke me!!! 🎉 🥳🎈

    • @Akwyndor
      @Akwyndor Год назад +6

      Good for you, bud.

    • @sebastiantaylor3389
      @sebastiantaylor3389 Год назад +7

      Omg same

    • @erickschusterdeoliveira2662
      @erickschusterdeoliveira2662 Год назад +14

      yeah same, WoTC helping out us neurodivergents

    • @GANTZ90
      @GANTZ90 Год назад +9

      Yeah I no longer buy commander precons between insane pricing and overload of product. It's the first year I haven't spent a penny on magic in a very very long time. Really was the primary product I bought every year without fail.

    • @nollidruj
      @nollidruj Год назад +1

      run while you're still able

  • @Gershelf
    @Gershelf Год назад +8

    I got the Faeie deck. I started in Lorwyn, with my best friend. He fell in love with Elves, and I with Faeries.
    This were finally my moment to have a fine Fae deck to play and upgrade. And it's fun so far.

    • @SSolemn
      @SSolemn Год назад

      I also love faeries, and I have now 7 faerie decks thanks to this precon. I separated the cards and built them as different types of commanders (spellslinger and aristocrat) Plus I built Talion as clone tribal, and I have already Ivy, Alela and Nymris, and Donal with mono blue faerie tribal

  • @RenstashMCDS
    @RenstashMCDS Год назад +37

    The reprints are causing Enduring Enchantments to drastically drop in price, making me super happy. Been eyeballing that one, so it's worked out for me at least! :) $48.99 as of 9/2 on tcgplayer, might see if it gets lower still before I snag one.
    Awesome video as always Prof!

    • @JonReid01
      @JonReid01 Год назад

      I am looking to upgrade and turn the Gaela precon from AFR (WUG) into an enchantment matters deck. Woulr you recommend i get enduring enchanments or virtue and vallor?

    • @lun4r16
      @lun4r16 Год назад +1

      Enduring enchantments is a whole different beast because it wants enchantments in the grave. I would recommend getting virtue and valor if you're looking to change galea or buy enduring enchantments and build around that instead.

    • @JonReid01
      @JonReid01 Год назад

      @@lun4r16 thank you

    • @francisserpa4465
      @francisserpa4465 Год назад

      Nice. That was the one I was most interested in from Commander Masters. I may pick it up if it goes a little lower.

  • @MonkeyNinja99
    @MonkeyNinja99 Год назад +21

    It’s always helpful to get your insights on these precons! It’s very helpful to know which are epic and which can be passed on. At least these basic decks aren’t $100.00.

  • @manwithabasicprofilepic
    @manwithabasicprofilepic Год назад +8

    I’m just about to head to my local game shop and considering getting one of these. Thank you Professor for giving us the breakdown!

  • @tripleS88
    @tripleS88 Год назад +2

    Excellent review as always. Love the frank and practical view you express. Just for viewers 11:19 image is obviously incorrectly labelled - Prof clearly more partial toward the faeries 🧚

  • @YunYunYooon
    @YunYunYooon Год назад +14

    I was lucky enough to pull some really good faerie upgrade cards out of the two set boosters I bought with the precon - bitterblossom and some. It is a lot of fun! I do feel like the 'substitute' commander ought to have been the cover commander though.

    • @cebel100
      @cebel100 Год назад +1

      That's been a theme for a lot of the pre-cons lately, the 'substitute' tends to actually be way better overall.

  • @KenshinKura
    @KenshinKura Год назад +12

    I feel alright with buying the Virtue and Valor deck after watching this. I've played Magic off and on since high school, but I've never played in the commander format. I also love the color combo of green/white, and seeing old cards I used to play like Eidolon of countless battles makes me feel like I know exactly what to expect from this.

  • @Phe0nix1986
    @Phe0nix1986 Год назад +3

    PROF! The 1st pick and 2nd pick words are next to the wrong decks! Minor issue. Great video. I just got the faerie one. Im loving it!

  • @thecharredminer5797
    @thecharredminer5797 Год назад +3

    I bought the green white deck yesterday at my local game shop, and it was my first prerelease event and it was a blast!

  • @StarkMaximum
    @StarkMaximum Год назад +49

    My biggest problem with the GW deck in particular is that I saw the colors and a cool knight on the box, and I immediately got curious. So I looked up the card and son of a BITCH, it's another "WHEN YOU DO THE THING YOUR DECK IS ABOUT, DRAW A CARD!" commander they just can't stop printing. if I want an "Auras matter" commander, Mazzy from Baldur's Gate gives me a more interesting effect, a third color, AND IS _ALSO A KNIGHT!_ There are so many commanders that repeat the same themes over and over that just don't do anything new, they're just "hey you need auras so i just hand them out, and you need to draw cards so i let you draw cards. that's it." I always felt the best commanders were ones where you look at it and think "hm, what do I do with this?" rather than looking at it and going "oh. i guess i'll just do what it tells me to."

    • @asimovvomisa4040
      @asimovvomisa4040 Год назад +2

      Yeah i really like to play Knight tribal and was hoping for a precon that fit that theme alas i guess Morophon (the Ditto of tribal play) it will be. (will grab the commander and maybe some others as singles)

  • @nicplz
    @nicplz Год назад +3

    I gave in and bought FAE and upgraded it massively last night. Always wanted to have a Dimir Faeries deck and this one felt like a no brainer for a solid base line.

    • @wildcardalbedo
      @wildcardalbedo Год назад

      That's how I've been doing it, is getting the precons that catch my eye such as the Faerie one, and dump extra cash into them to tune em up.

    • @IvanKolyada
      @IvanKolyada Год назад

      @@xardas149For real. I loved the Lotr Humans precon, but kept eye for a 1,5 months on the market, so that I could get it for the finest price possible.

    • @CardboardGuide
      @CardboardGuide Год назад

      What did you to in terms of upgrades, if I may ask?

  • @Riddimensaur
    @Riddimensaur Год назад +6

    Honestly i haven't been interested in Commander Precons in a while. I grabbed the ones from All Will Be One and March of the Machine but even those i wasn't particularly giddy about. Its just increasingly becoming a product i don't need. I've got tons. I hope they do more interesting themes in the future, and if so i may decide to pick them up again.

  • @MrHat.
    @MrHat. Год назад +102

    Prof, when will there be a Shuffle Up and Play episode with only precons allowed

    • @jackhemsworth7515
      @jackhemsworth7515 Год назад +7

      someone will come on with Lathril and just sweep house without even attacking. woman's a menace for a precon.

    • @ButterWizard1
      @ButterWizard1 Год назад +3

      I think you’d really like loading ready run’s elder dragon social club if you want to see precon gameplay

    • @loolded4797
      @loolded4797 Год назад

      omg I hope he sees this comment - I would watch them all they should do them for each block

  • @whitetigerfire1
    @whitetigerfire1 Год назад +3

    I have been wanting to make a Faerie deck. You giving the run down is enough for me to buy and upgrade later, thanks prof.!

  • @BookOfVampires
    @BookOfVampires Год назад +16

    “Not, Visible MSRP” is a nice way to put it

  • @SiberianThunderT
    @SiberianThunderT Год назад +3

    Considering the now-constant firehose of commander precons we're getting now, it would be interesting to see a retrospective look at every deck we've gotten since C20 a.k.a. Ikoria Commander and if the deck quality/value of the decks really has gone down or if the older decks now get lower grades when compared to more recent releases.

  • @sphinyal8758
    @sphinyal8758 Год назад +1

    I fell in love with Alela, the alternative commander in the fae deck. I didn't have a single fairy so for me it was the perfect pick up :) I upgraded it with a few singles like bitterblossom and now its one of my favorite decks for multiplayer

  • @noblewolfwriting7526
    @noblewolfwriting7526 Год назад +1

    Got the Fae Dominion on preorder, though as soon as the deck list was revealed I already was set on upgrading it. Mostly because I wanted a deck with Talion as the commander and the precon would serve as a good foundation for that. All in all I swapped 16-17 cards right out the box and made it a Talion deck instead. And playing that deck verses the precon, honestly super fun.
    I agree with the Prof on the strength of more recent precons, though with the caveat of go ahead and get a precon you want. Just don’t be afraid to upgrade it soon or immediately after a couple games of the deck out of the box.

  • @BillyMaysSHINY
    @BillyMaysSHINY Год назад +7

    Thanks for doing these prof! I’ve been thinking about buying one of these from my lgs and was having trouble deciding.

  • @tommyminton7826
    @tommyminton7826 Год назад +2

    I came back to watch this video again because I received the Virtue and Valor deck for Christmas. In the two games I have played with it on Spelltable against other out-of-the-box precons, it has gone off big. I am looking to upgrade it with Sythis and Sterling Grove plus other good enchantments.

  • @Gardureth
    @Gardureth 10 месяцев назад +1

    It would be great to see a video about: what commander deck to buy from the still available precon sets.

  • @elioncaplan
    @elioncaplan Год назад +3

    One thing the video doesn't address is that all of the double sided tokens in the Virtue and Valor deck are misprinted and have a token from Virtue and Valor on one face and a token from Fae Dominion on the other. The result is that only 8 of the 15 different tokens needed to play the deck are included in the box. The punch-out counter insert is also the one from Fae Dominion, so instead of all +1/+1 counters you get half +1/+1 and half stun counters (there are no stun counter cards in the deck). I imagine the need to provide your own accessories because the ones that were supposed to come with the deck are missing would be a significant factor in whether the deck is worth it for a new player to buy.

  • @gnomersy1087
    @gnomersy1087 Год назад +3

    Interesting idea you bring up. Is it that the new Commander decks are being watered down, that the format around them has pumped up, or that they just don't feel "special" when there is as much product as there has been these past few years.
    I don't know if it's something you'd be interested in doing but I'd propose a gauntlet where you take multiple eras of precons and compare them in gameplay against one another to see if any of them in action feel particularly good, bad, or overall feel on par in gameplay. You can only really fit 4 at a time but if you lump in Kamigawa Neon Dynasty/Wilds of Eldraine or MoM/AWBO as the "New" bundle, Commander Masters or a UB set as the second "premium" bundle, either the 2011 or 2013 precons as the "Originals" bundle, and the 2017 decks as the "mid age" group. Then run 4 games where each player switches to another one of the unplayed decks from a new pool. So each player plays 1 of each bundle overall. Survey each player after the game(Did you feel like you had a chance to win, which deck felt the most threatening, did your deck feel effective at its game plan, did you have many dud draws, how would you improve this deck, stuff like that) Then you can have a closing thoughts chat while going over the game surveys.
    It would be an interesting look at if the precons have changed significantly in power and design based on age or cost or if the big change we see and feel is more about the surrounding Magic environment. Admittedly this would probably take forever to do and would not be good RUclips content either so I could definitely see why you or other Magic content creators wouldn't do something like that.

    • @Breadcutter
      @Breadcutter Год назад +1

      That sounds awfully complex but super interesting

  • @arglebargle5531
    @arglebargle5531 Год назад +97

    I think that the "Collector Booster Sample Pack" labeling is probably the equivalent to what is called a "Dark Pattern" in the video game space due to its manipulative and dishonest naming.

    • @EvilGenius007
      @EvilGenius007 Год назад +6

      I think that's a bit of an exaggeration wrt the complexity of what WotC is doing, which is nothing more than old-fashioned deceptive advertising. Dark patterns are certainly cut from the same cloth, but they're their own sort of manipulative practices that is even more appropriately addressed by laws than the relatively straightforward naming shenanigans at play here. Calling WotCs practice here by the same name IMO weakens the case for legislation addressing dark patterns.

    • @arglebargle5531
      @arglebargle5531 Год назад +5

      @EvilGenius007 I'd say you're the one doing the exaggerating here, not me. If you agree that they're cut from the same cloth, then there's really no need to split hairs.

    • @EvilGenius007
      @EvilGenius007 Год назад

      @@arglebargle5531 csb.

  • @Beelzebubba1983
    @Beelzebubba1983 Год назад +4

    Bought the green and white and a new ixalan precon to teach my girlfriend how to play. With a couple hundred cards in hand we will have fun spending time together and the joy of teaching someone new to the game is more than worth the 70 bucks I paid for both. The time together playing and having fun is priceless! Im new to commander, but played mtg almost 30 years ago! so I'm betting she and I will have fun just building memories. And a some jank really works better than spending hundreds of dollars for some premiums.. I can't wait to shuffle up and play!

  • @supersword44
    @supersword44 Год назад +3

    Im excited about the one I picked up yesterday: Lorehold Legacies

  • @lane9668
    @lane9668 Год назад +4

    I pulled a foil full art Talion from my little sampler on the Faerie precon, which made me laugh, since I was just about to go up to the counter and go buy a Talion to stick into the precon.

    • @Gershelf
      @Gershelf Год назад +1

      That's a sweet pull. ^^ I'm waiting for the price of that in full art to fall a bit. Usually I don't bling decks a lot, but Faeries are my precious.

    • @lane9668
      @lane9668 Год назад +1

      @@Gershelf Yeah, I hadn't even realized I got a little pack with it. Friend who bought a bunch of packs instead of a precon and got mostly junk wasn't as happy as I was about me pulling it though, lol

  • @themagicofmtg
    @themagicofmtg Год назад +1

    I went ahead and picked up the Virtue and Valor Precon while I was at PreRelease last night. Mostly because it had all the things I was planning on putting into my Sythis deck. I'll play the Precon as is once then pull it apart to make Sythis.

  • @yoshitheonly
    @yoshitheonly Год назад +6

    I just bought my first deck! I mostly appreciate the art of MTG and I wanted to pick something that'd motivate me to play through my favorite aesthetics alone so I went with a Crimson Vow Bloodline deck. Haven't played more than 2 or 3 games in my life but im excited to start!
    Edit: A few weeks later and a couple friday night magic wins got me HOOKED into this game 💀😭🖤

    • @misty7220
      @misty7220 7 месяцев назад

      @yoshitheonly are you still hooled 9 months later?

    • @yoshitheonly
      @yoshitheonly 7 месяцев назад

      @@misty7220 I'm up to 21 Commander decks now 💀😭

  • @kawaiiLorenz1995
    @kawaiiLorenz1995 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fae dominion is currently sold at around 50-60 usd on local shops.

  • @ObscenumLoL
    @ObscenumLoL Год назад +2

    The BEST MtG channel. I'm never buying ANY product before watching the professors take on it's worth.
    Thanks prof

  • @BattlemageAsmodéus
    @BattlemageAsmodéus Год назад

    Wait holy shit dude you already had one! I only noticed because I had Jodah's card sitting right here looking at both of you at the same time; you ARE this dude!

  • @alfred8936
    @alfred8936 Год назад +158

    I worry that they've been shoving so many products out the door that they're literally running out of design space to make unique decks, or even cards for that matter.

    • @jackhemsworth7515
      @jackhemsworth7515 Год назад +4

      Few interesting build ideas in the legendary slot in eldraine, but the main prebuilds... pretty meh

    • @GamerFan5149
      @GamerFan5149 Год назад +1

      I really think that they should just release every 2 months instead of every few weeks…

    • @__-be1gk
      @__-be1gk Год назад +6

      They save the unique designs for universes beyond

    • @pokepersonzach8574
      @pokepersonzach8574 Год назад +4

      Idk if I agree with the idea the card ideas are really running out like wilds of eldraine had a lot of awesome fun new cards added, universes beyond is probably the best linited environment since kamigawa as it has so many unique fun cards. I do dislike these decks and think lately the decks haven’t been getting it done but I can’t say I agree about card design.

    • @philippniemann8842
      @philippniemann8842 Год назад

      No need to worry, lad 😄
      It has already happened 😂

  • @urderan
    @urderan Год назад

    a friend of mine gifted me the enchantment matters, I really have fallen in love with it!!! it has a ton of ways to draw cards, it always has creatures ready to kick asses, and a solid build!!! I have a lot of voltron decks, but this one it's the first one with that many creatures.

  • @taylorlovell3072
    @taylorlovell3072 Год назад

    I especially appreciate hearing about the gameplay of these decks!

  • @dweezilsantoni6470
    @dweezilsantoni6470 Год назад

    Hey these vids are always great and this isn't a cut, but at 11:34 Prof's stating clearly the first pick is 'UB Fae' but the video has it listed as a 2nd pick. Small edit job needs done.

  • @phaetion9711
    @phaetion9711 Год назад +3

    Talking about premium commander precons, I don't recall you talking about the gameplay of the CMM decks (Granted, I still maintain what I said in the comments of that video. Anikthea steamrolls the others). That being said, I did find it interesting that you talked about them in a better light than when you reviewed them (in isolation of the notorious pricing, ofc).

    • @Nephalem2002
      @Nephalem2002 Год назад

      Idk man. Guff is pretty busted if your good at the game.

  • @Wildheart800
    @Wildheart800 Год назад +5

    I think a new big issue with commander decks coming out with every set is how much draft chaff they can throw into the commander decks. A lot of the commons from WOE just don't hold up to other commander precons (same issue with ONE), and they start to fall behind any kind of curated deck of U/R/M from across sets.

  • @williamhoadley5089
    @williamhoadley5089 Год назад +1

    11:45 text is backwards says fae dominion is second pick

  • @youssefthe3911
    @youssefthe3911 Год назад +4

    Nice work professor informative as always keep up the greta work

  • @SlayerCerri
    @SlayerCerri Год назад

    Ahhh, I wish I had seen this earlier. we went to our local LGS earlier today to pick up some new boosters and I suckered myself into buying the Fae deck. I've been wanting to get into learning Commander (I play mostly standard ranked on Arena, and play 60 card formats with my other half and the kids) and so this is my first Commander deck. I guess I should have waited XD

  • @technole
    @technole Год назад +2

    Gavin was just listening to you about reprint equity!

  • @MTG_Lounge
    @MTG_Lounge Год назад +1

    That lead into Factor meals was clutch!

  • @NoOneUsesThis
    @NoOneUsesThis Год назад

    Thanks Proff. We all appreciate what you do.

  • @munchinbiscuits
    @munchinbiscuits Год назад

    Thanks Prof, was thinking about nabbing the GW one but will wait a month and see what the prices are looking like. Daybreak Coronet has already dropped by 50% here...

  • @santiagosebastiangomezonti526
    @santiagosebastiangomezonti526 Год назад +1

    Funnily enough, I gotta thank you from preventing me to buy one of these. I had my eyes on the auras one because I really enjoy the linear style of bogles, but you made me realize that for that amount I could just upgrade one of the decks I own.

  • @mateosalazar846
    @mateosalazar846 Год назад +1

    I actually would love if they transformed the commanders decks of every set into duel decks with the themes of the plane. I started to play with one of this duel decks and they were one of the best products to start. You can buy it and just start playing with family or friends. And transforming this product into commander decks would solve the issue of not having to put playsets of cards into them.

  • @Kovu1224
    @Kovu1224 Год назад

    I'm new to MTG and I selected this Commander Deck theme as I absolutely love the artwork.

  • @HousewifeT
    @HousewifeT Год назад +1

    My wife just bought us Zendikar Rising's "Land's Wrath" and "Sneak Attack", and we've played a couple games when our kiddo is sleepin. They feel similar, and just overall better bang for your buck, particularly "Land's Wrath" in comparison to "Virtue and Valor". Though, I have not played it, so I'll have more to say then.

    • @n.stuckwisch4258
      @n.stuckwisch4258 Год назад

      Land's Wrath is arguably one of the best cost to fun ratio you can get in a rpecon.

    • @TheMeditatingRaven
      @TheMeditatingRaven Год назад

      Phantom Premonition is no slouch either.

  • @jedrzejkraszewski816
    @jedrzejkraszewski816 Год назад +1

    I got the Aura deck, as the commanders seemed really flavorful (especially Gylwain), while the Faeries seemed to do more of the usual creature type stuff (buffing, tokens, card draw, it's been done before). Commander Masters decks were too expensive for me, so I'm glad I could get some of the useful enchantment cards for lower price. But the token mixup is so disappointing (the front side is correct for Virtue and Valor, but on the reverse side there are the Faerie deck tokens printed), as you don't get the tokens necessary for the new cards (no Sorcerer Role, or an Ox, a Cat, and a Bird for Liberated Livestock). Seems like those errors happen more often now, with the Eldrazi deck having wrong Constructs and wrong Spirits in it. And earlier the Nissa being replaced by a duplicate land in Kamigawa....
    Anyway, goes to show what a scam the Commander Masters prices were. Pity, as I was really looking forward to enjoying Commodore Guff.

    • @malakimphoros2164
      @malakimphoros2164 Год назад +1

      The art for Wicked and Cursed role is swapped on the tokens too.

  • @ThestruggleisIRL
    @ThestruggleisIRL Год назад +2

    Local game shop shafted me. They charged me 55$ for the white and green. I told him it’s my fist time buying commander and had no idea what I was doing. Sorry but I don’t trust local shops anymore. I’ll buy online for all future purchases.

    • @CaitofFate
      @CaitofFate Год назад

      Just go to a different one

  • @Kukyodragonfly
    @Kukyodragonfly Год назад

    I picked up the Virtue and Valor with a couple of upgrades for around 40 bucks in Japan, it was pretty decent price and what I saved I used it for upgrades and the deck runs very good now. I even have a sideboard lol

  • @jeremiahsolway6857
    @jeremiahsolway6857 Год назад

    Had a ton of fun playing pre-release and picked up both decks for $35 each at my local game store.

  • @dannyboy5514
    @dannyboy5514 Год назад

    Gonna grab the Fae deck when it drops in price! Thanks prof!

  • @eyelessjack817
    @eyelessjack817 Год назад

    As someone trying to get into Magic again, and organising a club for it at my school. WHY IS THERE SO MUCH MAGIC STUFF, MY BRAIN CAN'T HANDLE IT!

  • @michaelfrey2892
    @michaelfrey2892 Год назад

    Love the Professor, we buy the precons for when friends come over. Great for friendly Magic.

  • @baelsalmongaming
    @baelsalmongaming Год назад

    I remember the event decks! I kept buying them to get Sakura-Tribe Elders when I was but a lad with no game shop close by. It felt like more than two with each set. I'm pretty sure the original Ravnica Block came with 4 on the first set and then 3 on the last two. It's been a long time though.

  • @Teemodee
    @Teemodee Год назад

    Great video as always! Love your product value review videos! Thanks Prof!

  • @nethandelwampa116
    @nethandelwampa116 Год назад

    Went to prerelease yesterday just wanted to say I opened two rystic studies in my pre release kit. Never been so lucky

  • @COOPALOOPTROOPA
    @COOPALOOPTROOPA Год назад +3

    They need to have a Merfolk commander deck coming out.

  • @TheDoubleA12
    @TheDoubleA12 Год назад +1

    Don't think he mentioned this, but Wizards confirmed the Virtue and Valor deck is shipping with tokens from the Fae Dominion deck. So that's great...

    • @thetasworld
      @thetasworld Год назад +1

      Nice job team!

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 Год назад +1

      ​@@thetasworldI heard that in my head... Thanks :D

    • @thetasworld
      @thetasworld Год назад +1

      @@Yuzuki1337 I tend to imagine the glasses also

  • @snarferyasmr3739
    @snarferyasmr3739 Год назад

    I bought this fairy deck to top off a deck i planned on building, and was surprised by how helpful it was.

  • @MrAstarothien
    @MrAstarothien Год назад

    I'm would call myself an experienced player of sorts, and I had great fun with the Gw deck. But I've wanted an enchantress deck for a while and I refuse to use my entire food budget on the Masters precon. It is really powerful and with just a few cheap upgrades it was really hanging with the rest of the pod to the point where I became the arch nemesis

  • @multievolution
    @multievolution Год назад

    I’m definitely feeling these two since I like both the themes, but I agree there’s far too much over saturation with these, I’m surprised they haven’t noticed this yet considering their supposed market research.

  • @silentcalling
    @silentcalling Год назад +1

    I got the faeries deck. I know the price point isn't there, but I've been flirting with the idea of building dimir faeries anyhow, and I had the chance to get my hands on a Bitterblossom.

  • @DjStarrzWorld
    @DjStarrzWorld Год назад +1

    Great information as always Prof 👍

  • @ItsJustDrama
    @ItsJustDrama Год назад

    I'm new to MTG so getting into it, I've bought a few commander decks as I like the theme etc I was looking at this one it looks fun

  • @tuongpham7609
    @tuongpham7609 Год назад +1

    Small editing error. U have the enchantment decks first and the far second at 11:36. Not a big deal.

  • @nicolascasime9248
    @nicolascasime9248 Год назад +1

    Hi! Just wanted to add a Little thing that seems to be overlooked by the Prof.
    Recently bought the Virtue and Valor precon, and I was really disappointed to realize IT DOESNT COME WITH THE NECESARY TOKENS TO PLAY IT.
    All of the tokens are double sided, and among what Ive got, I see faeries (Deck doesnt create faeries), Pirates (Deck doesnt create pirates). It comes with only 2 role tokens, giving you a total of 4 roles. I have virtuous twice, and I am missing sorcerer.
    I know it's a tiny detail, but it really pissed me off. It's quite easy to make this correctly. The placed double faced tokens, when only one side is useful for the precon and the other one isnt. Can't they design a token with 2 useful sides? Unbelievable!

  • @chrisbaker9924
    @chrisbaker9924 Год назад

    I actually enjoyed the green white deck. I think the overlap in cards between this precon and the last one were because they were staples. I would add them anyway. All that being said I don’t really buy to many prebuilt products but it’s a cheap way to play something new!

  • @Baffacof
    @Baffacof 8 месяцев назад

    Virtue and value is one of the few decks to be banned at precon turnaments in my city.
    The few times that we play without ban list often wins...very simple deck, but very effective. I love it

  • @Dack24
    @Dack24 Год назад

    My wife just got me into magic recently and I wasn't about to drop 100 bucks on a pre-made masters deck. We have been playing with the eldraine decks and have been enjoying it.

  • @michaelgriffith7033
    @michaelgriffith7033 Год назад

    Being a total newb to Commander, the Prof's second-to-last question was important to me.
    Still trying to decide which WotC deck to buy first.

  • @Veiwer77
    @Veiwer77 Год назад

    You know what I'd like to see in these videos? Having a section where you cut out all the reprints and just price the unique cards in the deck! Sure a deck has $69 in value but I don't need those cards. Plus the unique cards can be found in set and collector boosters so really those prices are going to be cheap. Doing some quick mental math you can get extended art versions of the unique Faries for around $25 and the enchantments is like $17.

  • @justinnjackson1120
    @justinnjackson1120 Год назад

    As a new, old player coming back to Magic, I'm actually really liking the options of so many precons. I have both WoE decks, and actually prefere the enchantment one as i enjoy it he playstyle more, though Fae is definitely stronger and also very fun. I also have the Baldurs gate Party Time precon which i thoroughly enjoy.
    As an experienced, already established player i can definitely understand the feeling of uneasiness with the current approach. If it continues like this, I'll be right there with that sentiment.
    Now, as a new player, this heavily saturated field gives cheap, fun, and casual play options to someone jist learning what styles they enjoy most and what works best for them.
    Its definitely a mixed bag, and agreed, should probably start spacing them out to one a quarter for the non-premium and once a year for the premium

  • @shagbaker377
    @shagbaker377 Год назад

    I was thinking about picking up the Fae pre-con.
    I think I am gonna wait now.

  • @djcochrane
    @djcochrane Год назад

    Between the Bant enchantmnet decks a few (OMG not so few) years ago and all the ones recently, a mighty engine for a reasonable price no matter if you stick to WG or add blue or black.

  • @John_the_baptized
    @John_the_baptized Год назад

    Professor at 11:25 your editor has the choices backwards. “1st pick” is hovering over the Valor deck and not Fae Dominion.

  • @minispiel19
    @minispiel19 Год назад +1

    My shop had the virtue and valor deck for $20 so I just grabbed it. It’s fun for $20.

  • @YonickMr
    @YonickMr Год назад +1

    i‘d love some more challenger decks!

  • @pedromoratelli
    @pedromoratelli Год назад

    Hey Prof, great video.
    You've said multiple times that newer players would make a wiser decision by buying an older precon, yet there were no suggestions. As somebody that is returning no MtG and is pondering on what should I buy, I think that it would be fitting if you could release a precon deals video. As you said, Wizards is releasing a plethora of precons this year, but as a buyer, it gets more confusing with each release: is the newest one the best to buy or should I pick an older one? Of those, which is actually a good deal and which is just reprints? It's pretty hard figuring this out alone, so maybe a video about that is fitting in the near future.
    Thanks and much love from Brazil.

  • @Lunamowon
    @Lunamowon Год назад

    Honestly I know faeries is probably negative value in the end but I picked it up because it brings back memories for me. I used to pilot standard faeries to quite a high level back in the day and still top tournaments with pauper faeries. This deck got my foil promo spellstutter sprite and some other faerie goodies that I wish they included.

  • @ignithas3150
    @ignithas3150 Год назад

    The overlap in cards between Virtue and Valor and Enduring Enchantments is certainly a bummer, but I like that enchantment decks get more precon support, because I wanted some of those cards, but the single prices were too high for me. Luckily Enduring Enchantments dropped to 50€, but I can't imagine my disapointment if I had paid more than 70€ or the dreaded 100$ for it. Virtue and Valor for approximately 32€ seems well worth it if you fency the playstyle of drawing a lot of cards and buffing your creatures.

  • @OracleCura
    @OracleCura Год назад +3

    I don't think it's such a problem that there's overlap between this new enchantment deck and the CMM one a few weeks ago; those cards aren't janky or weird cards, they're typical staples of the archetype, and many players would probably just include them anyway. They're not expensive but... I don't think that's such a problem, either. I think it's just a bit of an indictment of the absolutely abysmal pricepoint of the CMM precons.

  • @FemboyAhri
    @FemboyAhri Год назад

    I spent 35 on both enduring enchants and virtuous and valour. I’d say it’s worth the money for both as they both ramp very nice.

  • @tcsmagicbox
    @tcsmagicbox Год назад

    Thank you for the analysis!

  • @valeriacaissa4552
    @valeriacaissa4552 Год назад

    Regarding the precon Box: This one is better than the previous ones. i still prefer the ones from Warhammer 40K though, they are basically the perfect storage and even work well for travel. But the last wider boxes are really annoying, who thought it's a good idea that the flap goes at the sides and front over the box? I had even one that was already damaged right out of the box. This flap at least goes right into the box.
    I would still prefer it though if the precon deck boxes would all be like the Warhammer 40K ones personally but this is an improvement.

  • @cthulhuhasrisen1009
    @cthulhuhasrisen1009 Год назад

    I bought the faerie one just because it looked fun. Not sure if it's value but I hope to enjoy it.

  • @sabelaine6044
    @sabelaine6044 Год назад +1

    I preordered the blue black faerie deck because I used to have a deck of the Lorwyn block back in day that was the same idea!
    Im going to use Alela as the commander as her theme seems more tricky/fun to play.

  • @a.summers9180
    @a.summers9180 Год назад

    Damn! 😳 The Fae Domimion deck I bought at my local shop on night one of prerelease for $39.95.