To the people saying she can't dance, the dancing in Aly's routine is far better than in a lot of elite routines. I actually love the style of this routine. It's not ballet, but that's doesn't mean it's not artistic. Ballet is not the only kind of dance that's artistic. Also, anyone who actually thinks the Russian floor routines were artistic this quad is nuts. They literally just waved their arms around in between the tumbling and spins. THAT'S NOT ARTISTRY. Laurie Hernandez's routine is a million times more artistic than every Russian routine this quad.
Leaps and spins do not equal artistry. Leaps and spins are skills just like tumbling. Notice how they are incorporated into the D score the same way tumbling is. Artistry is selling the routine and performing with emotion. I LOVED Aliya's 2012 Olympic routine, but her floor routines this quad have fallen a bit flat for me. All quad long, Russian choreography beyond the leaps and spins was just fancy, uninspired arm waving, and they often perform their floor routines as if they barely want to be there. I wasn't impressed. Of course there are exceptions. I always love watching Afanasyeva, and Seda's routines would be entertaining if she could just land her tumbling consistently. The Dutch routines are GORGEOUS. I agree with you there.
Oh Afanasyeva, IMO she was the last of the Russians to have an amazingly artistic floor routine. It was so good, that's why she was sometimes out of steam for her last pass, she did the most. I did love Hernandez floor routine tho, too bad she got two-per-countried out of the finals, she might have taken a medal.
Alexandra whole floor routine is hard. Her floor routine has massive tumbling passes that ended in a flawlessly stuck landing. Music is fantastic. It gives a reason for everyone to love this amazing floor routine. 😊
Until it becomes a mandatory part of gymnastics training for US gymnasts to have to go to ballet everyday (not just 1 hour a week because that does nothing) I don't want to hear how "horrible" of a dancer Aly is. Gymnasts aren't dancers, no matter how you spin it. Some people have a natural artistry and some have to work towards it, but I don't think it's a requirement in US gymnastics to have ballet in the curriculum.
I wouldn’t worry, it’s just coming from people who are jealous because she can do things they could never dream of doing and has accomplished more than they ever will.
I hate to break to people but there are only one or two gymnasts today who actually dance. Even the Russians and Romanians use their arms and legs the most. Very little body movement from any of them. The Dutch are the exception really. They use all of their body in dance. Most of the Russians don't actually dance either. They pose and move their arms and spin. Same for Romania really. Artistry is so subjective to the person watching it. I'm not sure how they can actually judge that to be honest. Just something I've observed over the years.
Heather Wicker it doesn’t all have to be nastia ballet style. Not all of them are graceful swans. Some are powerhouses and have a different dance style.
Reading these comments I can tell that there are some people who would rather see these ladies wearing ballerina clothes & probably not waste any time with the tumbling parts of there floor routines, but I am one of those few who lives the athletic skills of these ladies & if I ever watch ballerinas do there thing then I will not expect any tumbling, & I am an Antivaxer
Asuky Brasil the ballet and choreography has not value, only the acrobatic skills. So, if you think that the acrobatics is not important, u r watching the wrong sport.
ContractTerminated Exactly. You do realize that people put emphasis on the word GYMNASTICS rather than the artistry. Don't get me wrong I love to see beautiful dance elements in certain gymnasts' routines, but I'm not going to bitch and moan about it. Aly Raisman's routine is exciting to watch because of all the difficult elements.
Anyone else pissed off that they put Aly up on anchor on floor in Prelims, because they didn't want to risk Laurie 2per-ing her out, like what Maggie did in 2015.
That had absolutely nothing to do with it and if you believe that- you’re delusional and selfish. They put their two best floor workers up at the end because it helps to build the team score more effectively. A LOT of countries do it that way. You are just an Aly hater who can’t get a clue.
@@saragrant9749 You think Aly was gonna score higher than Simone on floor? Because she was Olympic Champion from 4 years ago (despite Simone winning every world floor title in 2013, 2014, 2015 and beating Aly on floor in every competition in 2015 and 2016)? And you call *me* delusional? And "selfish"? lol Why am I "selfish:? I dont think you know what the word means. Why did they put Aly up as anchor instead of Simone, then? Explain.
Sally Vee exacto, de acuerdo pero no todo es acrobacia , le falta elegancia, clase , presencia . A mi en lo particular me parece muy varonil esta mujer
Comparison of Aly and Laurie: Aly had better double layout, better double back and much more difficult combination pass (the first one, Laurie´s third one). Laurie had much better double arabian with stag jump, much better dance and a somewhat better split leaps (not perfect, though). So it is objectively hard to say who was better. Aly was as always way overscored.
I would argue that Laurie is a pretty good dancer. And while Simone is not the best dancer, she's an engaging performer on floor. It's really just Aly who is pretty egregiously inartistic. Great tumbling, but man that choreo's just ugly. If you want to look at an artistic American I'd recommend Morgan Hurd, who's turning senior next year! Very nice and graceful choreo.
xxSennaxx Sorry,yes:indeed you seem right that artistry doesn't need to mean just 'sweet ballerina's style', but reducing women's gymnastics to mere strength is not enough.
Romania is certainly not missed for their uppity attitude and superiority complex. Romania fell apart when it could no longer have the abusive system it used to have- and thank goodness for it.
As much as I hate Gabby Douglas, I don't understand how Gabby got only 8.366 in execution while this creature got an 8.675. I mean this one never hit her splits (except that regular switch leap), not even a sissone SKSKS
Her tumbling is literally perfect Pass one: Leg separation Perfect on pass 2,3 and 0.1 form for the double pike and her splits are better than Gabbys she has much more amplitude
Hey if only the judges took their own rules seriously and applied the 0.5 artistry deduction to this routine. Don't ruin a great song like Kalinka with this in future.
She has 0.1 artistry deduction only get your facts straight no can take a 0.5 artistry deduction for any reason. Case and poimt mustafina will have 0.2
@@triplefull7057 I wouldn’t worry, it’s just a toddler who feels jealousy towards someone who actually has accomplished things in life, rather than being a footnote.
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this routine is wayyyy better than her 2012 one you go alexandria 👏🏾👏🏾
I love her routine also I love her first pass she really nailed it
To the people saying she can't dance, the dancing in Aly's routine is far better than in a lot of elite routines. I actually love the style of this routine. It's not ballet, but that's doesn't mean it's not artistic. Ballet is not the only kind of dance that's artistic. Also, anyone who actually thinks the Russian floor routines were artistic this quad is nuts. They literally just waved their arms around in between the tumbling and spins. THAT'S NOT ARTISTRY. Laurie Hernandez's routine is a million times more artistic than every Russian routine this quad.
+Gowreesh Nath.a.s I'll take Aly's perfectly controlled double turn over Mustafina falling out of every spin she does
Leaps and spins do not equal artistry. Leaps and spins are skills just like tumbling. Notice how they are incorporated into the D score the same way tumbling is. Artistry is selling the routine and performing with emotion. I LOVED Aliya's 2012 Olympic routine, but her floor routines this quad have fallen a bit flat for me. All quad long, Russian choreography beyond the leaps and spins was just fancy, uninspired arm waving, and they often perform their floor routines as if they barely want to be there. I wasn't impressed. Of course there are exceptions. I always love watching Afanasyeva, and Seda's routines would be entertaining if she could just land her tumbling consistently. The Dutch routines are GORGEOUS. I agree with you there.
Oh Afanasyeva, IMO she was the last of the Russians to have an amazingly artistic floor routine. It was so good, that's why she was sometimes out of steam for her last pass, she did the most.
I did love Hernandez floor routine tho, too bad she got two-per-countried out of the finals, she might have taken a medal.
You are either a fanboy or have no clue about gymnastics
Her double layer out is so amazing!!!
She is so beautiful it hurts my eyes!
Haters gonna hate, USA gymnastics is still going to dominate. Sit down.
Julia Chaloupka preachhhhhhhh
Julia Chaloupka Thank Romanian trainers.
sit down too you’re not an olympic athlete lmfao
@@szlendak1368 what does being an olympic athlete have to do with it lmfao
Well, not anymore.
That first pass never ceases to amaze me
Flawless.
Alexandra whole floor routine is hard. Her floor routine has massive tumbling passes that ended in a flawlessly stuck landing. Music is fantastic. It gives a reason for everyone to love this amazing floor routine. 😊
Wow. I love this routine so much, and the first pass is so cool. I can't believe I don't remember her from the 2012 olympics.
Until it becomes a mandatory part of gymnastics training for US gymnasts to have to go to ballet everyday (not just 1 hour a week because that does nothing) I don't want to hear how "horrible" of a dancer Aly is. Gymnasts aren't dancers, no matter how you spin it. Some people have a natural artistry and some have to work towards it, but I don't think it's a requirement in US gymnastics to have ballet in the curriculum.
I wouldn’t worry, it’s just coming from people who are jealous because she can do things they could never dream of doing and has accomplished more than they ever will.
The best DLO in my opinion. I miss her.
I hate to break to people but there are only one or two gymnasts today who actually dance. Even the Russians and Romanians use their arms and legs the most. Very little body movement from any of them. The Dutch are the exception really. They use all of their body in dance. Most of the Russians don't actually dance either. They pose and move their arms and spin. Same for Romania really. Artistry is so subjective to the person watching it. I'm not sure how they can actually judge that to be honest. Just something I've observed over the years.
Heather Wicker fuck you that a load of crap it’s not 1975 it’s the 21 century and you probably don’t even do gymnastics
Heather Wicker there is a reason its called gymnastics, we focus on skills and execution not really on dance moves so think before you judge
Heather Wicker it doesn’t all have to be nastia ballet style. Not all of them are graceful swans. Some are powerhouses and have a different dance style.
These US girls meant business! And everybody knew it😁
She is amazing! I'm Brazilian but i can say that, USA has the Best gynastics in the WHOLE WORLD!!!!
Este time de ginástica USA foi o melhor dos últimos anos
CONCORDO foi mesmo!!! Atualmente o Brasil tá com o melhor time de Ginastas Brasileiras dos últimos tempos!
she's the best 😊
❤️
Perfeita 👏👏👏👏👏
my American ladies r THE BEST WITH OR WITHOUT ELEGANCE THEY R THE BEST AN WAIT TILL U ALL SEE WA COMING IN THE FUTURE .....??? stay tune ?
Uma das minhas melhores ginásticas que mas admiro
this routine goes rally amazing with Ksenia Afanaseyeva's Floor Music from 2008
afanasyeva's 2012 also went well with this music, there's a video on it
She might not have the best dance but it's the way she used the music.
She's is very good at tumbling
Hermosa. Definitivamente la mejor gimnasta de estados unidos.. Espero verte en tokio
Emilio Ponce no Simone biles es la mejor
Very beautiful how she does her floor skills.
Reading these comments I can tell that there are some people who would rather see these ladies wearing ballerina clothes & probably not waste any time with the tumbling parts of there floor routines, but I am one of those few who lives the athletic skills of these ladies & if I ever watch ballerinas do there thing then I will not expect any tumbling, & I am an Antivaxer
Dos santos s2
If you want to see "dance" go to the ballet, gymnastics is about difficulty, strength, acrobatics... come on! Is 2016 not 1980!
Rulho M. No no honey, its gymnastic not circus acrobat, ridiculous.
Asuky Brasil the ballet and choreography has not value, only the acrobatic skills. So, if you think that the acrobatics is not important, u r watching the wrong sport.
Asuky Brasil Rumania? the team that not qualify to Rio? XD
Rulho M. They're just having fun too. And the turns and splits do count for points.
Rulho M. thank you!!
Gotta love how people complain about dance elements.
Avery Belcher It is called artistic gymnastics
ContractTerminated Exactly. You do realize that people put emphasis on the word GYMNASTICS rather than the artistry. Don't get me wrong I love to see beautiful dance elements in certain gymnasts' routines, but I'm not going to bitch and moan about it. Aly Raisman's routine is exciting to watch because of all the difficult elements.
ContractTerminated its called 2018
And gymnastics is still called Artistic Gymnastics lol. Reading and comprehension is key to understanding Avery.
@@sketchers987 if you want to see dance go watch rhythmic gymnastics. There’s no need for such toddler like attitude.
Anyone else pissed off that they put Aly up on anchor on floor in Prelims, because they didn't want to risk Laurie 2per-ing her out, like what Maggie did in 2015.
What?
Laurie would not outscore Aly on floor
@@triplefull7057 You can’t be sure of that. Maggie qualified ahead of her in 2015. And Laurie scored higher than Aly on one of the two days at Trials.
That had absolutely nothing to do with it and if you believe that- you’re delusional and selfish. They put their two best floor workers up at the end because it helps to build the team score more effectively. A LOT of countries do it that way. You are just an Aly hater who can’t get a clue.
@@saragrant9749 You think Aly was gonna score higher than Simone on floor? Because she was Olympic Champion from 4 years ago (despite Simone winning every world floor title in 2013, 2014, 2015 and beating Aly on floor in every competition in 2015 and 2016)? And you call *me* delusional? And "selfish"? lol Why am I "selfish:? I dont think you know what the word means. Why did they put Aly up as anchor instead of Simone, then? Explain.
Its called Gymnastics...... not Ballet.
richard mandler no, it's called gymnastic, not circus acrobat. 👎💩💩
richard mandler it's actually called artistic gymnastics...
Don't forget, it's called ARTISTIC gymnastics.
You really need to learn the meaning of Arstistic on this sport, then come here to comment. Go watch RHYTHMIC Gymnastics...
Asuky Brasil what about MAG? Men dance too?
She’s SOOOO HOT
Unas clases de ballet no le vendrían mal, digo creó que con ellas podrían darle un poco de elegancia y clase que de verdad le faltan .
She won the silver so your comments mean nothing.
Ricardo Contreras Reyes Eso no influye en su nota. Así que creo que tu comentario sobra.
Ricardo Contreras Reyes son lindas
Rulho M. claro , pero insisto , falta esa clase, elegancia, presencia que esta gimnasta no lo tiene .
Sally Vee exacto, de acuerdo pero no todo es acrobacia , le falta elegancia, clase , presencia . A mi en lo particular me parece muy varonil esta mujer
DOÑA VERGAS!
Comparison of Aly and Laurie: Aly had better double layout, better double back and much more difficult combination pass (the first one, Laurie´s third one). Laurie had much better double arabian with stag jump, much better dance and a somewhat better split leaps (not perfect, though). So it is objectively hard to say who was better. Aly was as always way overscored.
Lol armchair judging is very easy. Go become a judge if you’re such an expert. “Eye roll”
Honestly? Raisman put a better routine … for me, she deserve the gold on floor … yep, again.
the clapping is so baddd
What a horrible dancer! Americans may have the best tumblings but they will never ever have what the Romanians and Russians have and that is artistry.
Ryan M yep well, we'll keep winning😂
I would argue that Laurie is a pretty good dancer. And while Simone is not the best dancer, she's an engaging performer on floor. It's really just Aly who is pretty egregiously inartistic. Great tumbling, but man that choreo's just ugly.
If you want to look at an artistic American I'd recommend Morgan Hurd, who's turning senior next year! Very nice and graceful choreo.
xxSennaxx
+MsSlucyna Did you mean to comment something lol? I just see my username
xxSennaxx Sorry,yes:indeed you seem right that artistry doesn't need to mean just 'sweet ballerina's style', but reducing women's gymnastics to mere strength is not enough.
I hate USA gymnasts. They are good tumbling but they have no elegance at all. We miss the legacy of Romanian Gymnastics
The crowd is not interested in elegance it’s boring it’s about the difficult tumbling people are in awe of now
Romania is certainly not missed for their uppity attitude and superiority complex. Romania fell apart when it could no longer have the abusive system it used to have- and thank goodness for it.
As much as I hate Gabby Douglas, I don't understand how Gabby got only 8.366 in execution while this creature got an 8.675. I mean this one never hit her splits (except that regular switch leap), not even a sissone SKSKS
Her tumbling is literally perfect
Pass one: Leg separation
Perfect on pass 2,3 and 0.1 form for the double pike and her splits are better than Gabbys she has much more amplitude
@@triplefull7057 also, Gabby had the best splits from the entire American team
“Creature?” I’m pretty sure she has a NAME toddler. Come back when you’re not in diapers anymore and can show at least marginal respect to others.
Hey if only the judges took their own rules seriously and applied the 0.5 artistry deduction to this routine. Don't ruin a great song like Kalinka with this in future.
She has 0.1 artistry deduction only get your facts straight no can take a 0.5 artistry deduction for any reason. Case and poimt mustafina will have 0.2
@@triplefull7057 I wouldn’t worry, it’s just a toddler who feels jealousy towards someone who actually has accomplished things in life, rather than being a footnote.
Eww
That’s not a nice thing to say about yourself.