Well done Friedberg, amazing having him finally add value in geopolitical topics. I don’t think it’s his primary interest but definitely brings a unique, calculated and intelligent perspective. Love the Pod, keep up the amazing work!!
If John changes the song, he should be fired on the spot as he will be making changes for change's sake, just to show that he's doing something without contributing any actual value.
Jason, you are out of touch with the common man if you think the average person could afford $1,000 monthly to do housework! You could hire a human for less money, but a robot must cost less than a human. It is a cost/benefit issue; the benefit must exceed the cost to make any sense. Is there a home job/effort in an average home worth $1,000 for the person? Today, the average annual income in America is $63,795 (gross income before taxes), which is $5,316 per month, so $1,000 a month is 20% of their monthly income. Do you really think the average person will spend 20% of their gross monthly income to do the dishes and laundry? Really? There is a tipping point, but it is not $1,000 for the mass market.
Billionaires can't relate to lower class, or even middle class problems. They've been billionaire status since their 30s, their insight and inside info is the only thing useful to ys retail traders
Right, they have their area of expertise which is interesting and valuable to us. But sometimes they say stuff that reminds us we need to sense check things around other things that make no sense.
J-Cal is either spurs comedic relief or makes a mid comment. Unfortunately he brings down the quality of the show when compared to the rest of the besties.
Gentlemen, there is a difference between job categories and individual employment. Historically, productivity was enhanced and ended up leading to the desolation of entire towns and cities as the winds of change swept through them. Horse trainers and carriage builders did not suddenly become better at building cars, they died out. Draftsmen didn’t suddenly become proficient at CAD, they retired out. This is the first time that a change of this magnitude will outpace natural attrition.
Well let’s hope the productivity rise will give support to the ones with less will power to adapt. Understandable to folks 10-15 years before retirement.
Truly fabulous how Jon says NOTHING. He's totally there for productivity and I love it. Friday All-In is my favorite hour of the week (other than all the fabulous chaotic hours that involve my ladies 🙂).
Nobody wants war thats a given. But Putin = Hitler : Psychopathic Putin wont stop at Ukraine. Either do you stop him now or have a much bigger mess to clean up later.
A treaty to end a war is not appeasement. If there was a way to end this war with a negotiated settlement, that would be great. But Russia believes that Ukraine is historically part of Russia, as Putin lectured Tucker. He has made it clear that anything short of that is not acceptable. Telling him Ukraine will never be able to join NATO would result in no change in the war and only strengthen their resolve. The politico article was selectively quoted to make the war sound hopeless, which is not the main gist of the article. Ukraine can build the same type of fortifications that Russia has built and they can continue their war on Russian energy infrastructure, which is starting to bite. Where is the reporting on this? If this can shut in Russian Arctic wells, they will never be restored…having a huge impact on Russias ability to continue this war and possibly leading to $150 oil…BTW..telling someone with a different opinion that the don’t think” is the hallmark of someone with a closed mind with selective biases
@@brendanreid8241 100%. It's unfortunate because Chamath repeatedly points out the value of experience in ones sector, yet, for all their intelligence, they're utterly inexperienced and incredibly inexperienced in their area. They disparagingly right off any anti-Sacksian position as part of "the blob" consensus. Jay was for a moment the only one who mounted a sharp counterattack to Sacks' Putinist propaganda pumping, but he seems lately to just roll over and let Sacks spew his shitty analysis.
David overlooks that during the initial negotiations in Belarus, Russia “supposedly” not only demanded that Ukraine sign a treaty to prevent NATO membership but also proposed reverting NATO to its 1997 borders, effectively expelling 14 member states. Additionally, Russia insisted on recognizing Donetsk and other eastern regions of Ukraine as independent states and acknowledging the annexation of Crimea by the international community. If accurate, thats one hell of a request… While obviously I didn’t partake in the negotiations, both sides likely argue the reasonableness of their demands while accusing the other of overreach. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle. But geopolitics is never clear cut/simple.. It’s also worth noting that during the negotiations, miles of Russian armor was immobilized in knee high Ukrainian mud while getting slapped by US Javelins, Russia definitely wasn’t negotiating from a position of power at that time.
If Ukraine were to pursue NATO membership, it's likely to happen only after resolving the conflict with Russia. NATO requires unanimous approval from all 32 member states. Considering approval would invoke Article 5 and conflict with a nuclear power/Russia, several countries, would object. I’d say Hungary, Turkey, Spain, Italy, and Iceland would be a few of my guesses. But many others are likely to share similar concerns and vote against Ukraine's membership. I’d wager a good amount of cash it’s not happening while 155mm shells are being lobbed in Southeastern Europe.
They could still go to war and sidestep Article 5. Besides countries like Turkey and Hungary would never vote and will at some point be kicked out of NATO
sacks keeps saying russia is winning the war, is that really the case, i thought the point of the war was to stop nato expansion and with this war russia caused finaland sweden to join nato and has increased the likelihood of Ukraine joining nato. You could be winning a war in terms of casualties land etc vs an opposing party but the true winner (as much of a winner as war could bring) of a war is the one who achieves his strategic purpose. Those who achieve their strategic purpose or are making progress towards it can outlast and endure,more casualty and destruction than you csn even imagine.
Putin is sacrificing the Russian military and KILLING their Demographics and sending the Working Age Men from Russia into a Death Trap where they're doing Wave Attacks and getting slaughtered to take a few hundred meters of ground. It's a nightmare for Russian Soldiers. The Ukrainians are taking heavy losses...but they're defending and striking Russian Tanks, Armored Vehicles and Soldiers every time they attack. NOT a good outcome. The USSR absolutely LOST in Afghanistan because you can't keep a country that large under control, if the population does NOT want you there. Russia losing tons of men and military equipment...while NATO gets TWO new advanced Militaries. Easily the worst decision Putin has made since he took office.
That's an interesting point of view. Really makes NATO and the west look worse considering they are using Ukraine Meat Shields to achieve their strategic purpose. Would it be fair to say that Ukraine is losing the war, paying the highest price while NATO pats itself on the back and achieves their goal in the war?
On AI replacing jobs, History does not predict the future. New jobs will get created but AI will be able to learn and do those jobs better than any human can retrain. Beyond that there is a fundamental difference with this change that they are not talking about, we are attempting to replace intelligence. That encapsulates logic, planning, learning, reasoning, the whole human gambit. We are attempting to create something which is on par with humans at a cognitive level and eventually surpasses it. This isn't so much a new technology but an attempt to create our general ability as humans.
they're toning it down to create less panic and less regulations, they all are investing in AI companies, they all know it will replace more jobs than create them. even sam altman said we WILL need UBI, but these guys are saying it will create so many more new jobs while they can't even mention one. there is literally an AI currently that can control other AI agents, if that is the case now, imagine in 2 years. even Klarna stated that every job reduction is replaced by AI and that there won't be an open listing for them in the future.
@@stockholmpublishings2937 It is cowardly though on their part. AI should usher in an age of abundance. Our discussions should revolve around how we can collectively embrace and share in this future. We need actual leaders to stand up and be the prominent voices talking about the transformative and radical changes in the context of the supports that need to put in place now to help the transition. Instead we have these men children talking about division while actively sowing it and propagating completely lies at the alter of more profits. Since you all love poker so much guys, here is one you should understand. We no longer need to think about things in terms of zero sum games.
AI has limitations. For instance one job that's desperately needed is night nurse to newborns. Every woman having a baby would benefit from having one, but right now they're prohibitively expensive. An influx of women going into this field would be a huge benefit to society.
Do you think they became billionaires by looking out for the interests of workers? They openly admit they want us all laid off and replaced by AI. They would sell their own kids if the price was right.
People pay just as much for a car that sits in the driveway or parked in the sun for 90% of if it’s life time knowing damn well they can’t afford it lol. People will absolutely buy a robot just to be able to post on Instagram that they have one. How out of touch are you with people ridiculous spending habits all in the name of impressing people they don’t know online?
Optimus will be cheaper, more like $500/month for personal use. And eventually price will go down more. But first it will replace employees who cost a lot more. For $1K/month you may get an undocumented immigrant with no skills. A skilled factory worker costs several time more, especially with the tons of added costs and taxes that comes with them. Then a robot can work 24/7/365, at 100% efficiency all the time. That's like 5x productivity, if not more. So even at $10K/month humanoid robots would be selling like hotcakes.
Jason did say "middle class home," and in these guys' minds, when they think "middle class," they probably really are thinking of what's more like "upper middle class." People that do have more money to blow. Despite the struggles of lots of Americans, there's still many millions that could afford such luxuries.
*Chamath's assertion that the AI revolution is no more threatening to jobs than previous technological revolutions is highly unpersuasive. Comparing the birth of automobiles, mobile phones, social media or the internet to the birth of AI is apples and oranges. The difference with AI is that it's the revolution that revolution itself is predicated on, and the rate of advancement it's going to produce is so far beyond previous tech revolutions that it doesn't even compare. It's like saying you could survive falling off a 50 story building just because you survived falling down the stairs.*
I couldn't agree more. I would go further - It's funny they debate Trump every week, totally ignoring the fact that a large number of people voted for Trump were doing so as a push back against the "costal elites" because they lost their jobs years ago and haven't seen improvement in their lives in decades. This is because many people who loose their jobs to technology do not move on to other higher paying careers improved by tech. If you travel to anywhere outside of London in the UK or across the US outsourcing and automation has gutted those communities and they have suffered since. This is why in the EU we have had the EU pay to prop-up communities. Historically, the people who benefit from these kinds of improvements in technology are relatively small numbers of people living in major cities who are young enough to retrain and evolve with the tech, others get left behind. It seems to me that a small number of industries have benefitted over the last 20 years (namely, tech, media, finance, Pharma) and the increase they have seen has lead to the increase in the data that shows salaries being improved over time. The changes with AI is very different to other tech improvements - this is affecting all industries and all types of roles, at once - totally replacing teams. The example of the credit company having the Customer Support team replaced by AI will happen across Banking, Physical Products, Software, Insurance,. Not to mention Telesales, software developers, nutritionists, tutors... this is way bigger and faster than most people can imagine.
@@mr_grillettoo many assumptions. Your anecdotes on disruption IMO are not givens. E.g. there are several scenarios where tutoring/teaching could be enhanced by AI not eliminated, even in the long term. On top of that, new industriies and roles emerging are notoriously difficult to predict.
AI was not born these last couple years. It has been half a century of progress just showing its fruits now. But you are right about the exponential development of compute being hard to anticipate and compute was not as relevant for the other technological revolutions.
Totally agree. At the end of the day all 4 of these guys have vested interests in the propagation of AI within many industries and they aren’t going to talk about the threats to regular people losing their jobs. It’s always about ‘more efficiency’ and not about the impact to people’s livelihoods.
Exactly!!! I am astonished at how crazy their justifications were. It’s just basic logic. If we create a super intelligent AI that is smarter than all humans combined, cheaper to hire than an entire human workforce, and works faster and more reliably (no strikes, no healthcare, works 24/7), then 90%+ of jobs both now and in the future will be automated.
As a world-class math and physics tutor, I started teaching my students to do their arithmetic (which humans are AWFUL at) with Alexa about 5 years ago. Then, integrating Desmos, and online calculators, and now, of course, GPTs. However, the school system considers these tools "cheating", so I'm expecting most teacher will lose their jobs, to be replaced with higher paid, and more professional modern educators. Working with a tutor is essential for learning. Most importantly, one learns to speak properly to the agent (me, Alexa, GPTs) both with proper vocabulary and with logical sentence structures.
Education is virtually the same as it was a hundred years ago. Can you imagine if the All-In Podcast was disseminated to only 30 people at a time, and they would have to redo the podcast thousands of times per week? It would be the absolute least efficient way of educating people, but this is exactly how our schools operate. We could fire 99% of all administrators and teachers, pay the remaining $500k per year, and still save money while greatly improving education. The department of education needs to be deleted.
Most brilliant comment ever made on the internet. I had the same thought when RUclips started taking off. You Tube U essentially is what I was thinking as a super efficient means of disseminating knowledge and experience. Modern education is a stone age concept we are hanging onto with a death grip. We need to let go and let what's possible. We can discuss more together and hash this out more? I hope. ❤️
Life was so good pre internet ... the 80' and 90's. People relied on each other and good relationships were important. Social media is destroying humans. AI and robots will be worse.
@@BowtieJDP I’m right. We are just in a really weird phase. We still don’t understand why we sit like npc’s on our phone. Non of these things are clear cut. It’s better to not be afraid so you can be adaptable and continue to grow strong relationships with close ones and get healthier.
Its just refreshing when Friedberg actually speaks his mind. Too often he bites his tongue, to not offend or passes on topics that his view is going to be swamped by Sack’s overtures.
Agreed, Frieberg had some great points, I felt he may be a bit clouded based on Googles plans from 10+ years ago. Hubspot is garbage software and overpriced for it's value. Honestly I think Chamath is holding back that 8090 will be building a salesforce/Hubspot killer and the software will be worthless in 10 years. Is a 30+ billion acquisition in Hubspot going to drive more growth than an equivalent investment in AI related Tech which could kill the search model? Asking for a friend.
SBF didn't CREATE value from those investors. The Crypto price did. Who Gets the Difference? Cypto isn't Counted by Price It's Number of Tokens. If I had 7 Bitcoin then you owe me 7Bitcoin today.
Agreed with Friedberg. Consumer robots for $1000/month for household chores is ridiculous for middle class. This amount is a much larger percentage of people’s income as compared to those that is wealthy class.
It doesn't matter what percentage of someone's income it is. It matters how much utility it provides to consumer's lives and therefore how much they are willing to pay for it.
Agree that that is too expensive for most people, but Friedburg (who I generally really like..) was like 'How much time do people actually spend doing those things?' Errrrr, my wife and I probably do at least 4 hours of chores a day between us, with more on weekends - cooking, cleaning, washing up, tidying after kids, yardwork,, etc, etc. That's 120 hours per month, so if something could save us from all those chores (admittedly that is likely some way off..) $1000 per month would be $8 per hour, which I would be more than willing to pay
@@Coldskier You can hire a cleaner for $30 an hour in many parts of the US. $1,000 is enough for 33 hours of cleaning by a professional cleaner. I don't see how a robot service can beat that.
Sacks FTX comments were correct. Customers aren’t made whole even if payments were in-kind. Just ask Celsius customers. Also a chapter 11. The only advantage is you have the assets returned & get to benefit from any future run up in prices.
What the absurd. During Vietnam war defence budget spending from GDP in USA was above 10%, now it is well below 3%. Germany spent multiple time more on Greece bailout than on Ukraine support. I do not even talk about COVID. The problem is not too much focus on war, it is exactly opposite, peace dividends made west blind, deterrence is not working anymore, and all problems with Russia and China come from that.
Problems with Russia and China are mostly made up. Elites need an external enemy to divert public anger from them. As they explained in the video, The Ukraine war is a direct consequence of the planned NATO expansion. And China is just minding it's own business, not bothering anyone. OK, except Taiwan, but even that is partially self-defense against the US. China's problem is that it's access to global trade is easy to cut off, and Taiwan is an essential part of that. Also China is threatening US dominance only because the latter became way too complacent and gave up it's lead in many areas, and willingly handed over it's industrial power to China for a little short term profit.
Strolling down to San Mateo downtown and grooving to the latest episode of the besties has become my Sunday ritual. Hands down to the best podcast in the world.
I used to listen to them while I made deliveries, love Jcal more and more and has become a vital part to the show. Thank you Chamath for helping me discover the podcast
Let’s have a Summit that we middle class entrepreneurs can afford to attend for a change. Remember we have way more numbers and can bring on the real BBQ!
I work in construction and am so excited to be able to buy a robot in the coming years. I think any sort of humanoid robot that can do simple things such as take out trash, dishes, laundry, etc. Would be an invaluable tool on the job-site. Having a worker than can do simple things like move materials or vacuum or hold a flashlight or whatever cost way more that 1000$ a month to hire a human. This will change the game
On the NATO topic - just want to check, are we thinking as Americans or as co-humans of this shared planet? A sovereign nation is being invaded and murdered by another one. If that nation was USA (or perhaps will be some day in the future) and you just happened to not be in the luxury situation of already being in NATO, would you feel the same? No, right? You would hope and expect other principled nations to step up and present a unified front: mess with one means messing with all. Also, honestly, would Russia really take on the entire NATO in that case - or back down?
The USSR, which was MUCH bigger population and Military than Russian Federation had to back down from Afghan Debacle 30 years ago. Russia will almost certainly have to back down eventually from Ukraine, if it is supported by NATO / EU / US. It's burning through ALL of its Soviet Era Weapons Systems, which was MOST of its military size.
For AI robots, the economics seem more sensible for repetitive tasks performed by low-wage humans in commercial settings. A $1k/month robot that replaces a $3k/month human dishwasher would be an instant purchase by every restaurant and cafeteria.
Altman defines AGI as AI that can perform all economically valuable activities. This means the average human will not be able to create economic value to sustain themselves (without some form of redistribution), so basically, the All-In hosts are bearish on AGI or are just experiencing cognitive dissonance based on their ideology.
Right, the whole point of artificial *general* intelligence is that it can do anything a human can. This time IS different. All previous innovations discussed were just tools that automated aspects of human work, but not the human himself.
Why would redistribution be necessary if the cost of goods and services would crash to their bare minimums? Just because AGI can do all economically valuable activities doesn’t mean it will, humans will still be preferred for many tasks
Exactly whatever jobs get "created " will be filled by another AI agent. They are thinking in the past, nothing has been like this before, not the industrial revolution nor the agriculture revolution etc
Much appreciate the pod making corrections. Definitely tough to figure out where to get the best info on any subject these days. Appreciate everyone’s best effort. Sticking with you boys 👍🏻😉
Good show Besties! For the record, I've never tried a dating app. I've heard too many horror stories. I think the only socializing I do is commenting online. I know I'll never meet any of the people on these podcasts in real life. That's okay. The shows are fun to watch and I always learn something new. Congratulations and welcome to the All-In CEO, Jon Haile!
That's actually a pretty interesting idea. I need a pie chart to show me where I'm spending all of my time. Would you enjoy a pie chart too? Optimize for bigger slices of pie dedicated to doing things that matter most. GamiFy it and make it fun to see the pie chart change over time, bigger slices of pizza 🍕 means you get a free 2 litre Coke, on ice to reward the efforts to make smaller pieces here, and larger pieces over there. Your thought? Thanks 😊 We can discuss over pizza 🍕 lol
DF is bang on that these wallets were intended to store non-dollar-denominated assets, and on that basis the liquidation and payback scheme is not defensible.
What Sacks is talking about regarding the promise of neutrality and not joining NATO is exactly what happened with Ukraine and Georgia in 2004. Both countries wanted to join, but Germany and France pushed for this not to happen. The result? Russia invaded both. Believing that Russia has good intentions and only wants neutrality is naive.
Good old Sacks-y went to the Neville Chamberlain School of Dictator Appeasement. Don't mess with my Yacht and you can have any country that I wouldn't visit.
NOPE. He's a coward...he's trying out for a role in the NEW Neville Chamberlain movie...Appeasement in Kyiv...how I created the NEXT Warsaw Pact. He should definitely stick to SaaS and leave the pandering to Russian Strongmen to Drump.
David Sacks clearly has not watched the official Putin video announcing the special military operation. C'mon David, get your facts straight. Neutrality was never Russia's goal. Also, what about the Budapest memorandum? If not for the US, Ukraine could have had thousands of nukes to defend itself.
There's no way that NATO is going to admit Ukraine as long as the conflict continues. It's just not going to happen until (and if) the conflict ends, and Ukraine normalizes.
Disappointed no mention of Israel, bombing of embassy and killing of innocent aid workers as part of the overall escalation. Is there a reason for that?
Sacks you’re so wrong about Ukraine issue. You’re actually a delusional by saying they are losing, especially considering they are outnumbered and under supported by US Also Ukraine is fighting without aviation support
💯 agree with Chamath on in person communities and the opportunities. I work with early stage tech startups on GTM. When building out these I always suggest building in this. It not only helps build brand, but creates a barrier to entry and you won’t have to play the expensive retention game so hard.
I feel like Sacks and Jcal's opposing arguments on Ukraine perfectly exemplify what has traditionally been U.S. foreign policy versus more of the realpolitik. I.e. Jcal is arguing that the U.S. should do what it perceives as standing up for and promoting western-style government, while Sacks is arguing for realpolitik what is best for us now, which would be to minimize our involvement. Both arguments certainly have their merits, and it's nice to see intelligent people having a civil debate
Unfortunately it is MUCH better than the Angry Orange Mussolini Wannabee. The Reps could have actually picked ANY competent Republican and would have WON the election hands down...but they want a crazy ex-reality TV failure. No thanks...we'd like to have future elections in this country.
I agree with Mr. Sacks response to J-Cal asking him how is his constant attacking and criticism of everything negative against Trump relevant to the pod- and if so is it necessary to repeatedly mention it so often- especially if it's just for J-Cal to state his critical opinion since he clearly doesn't approve of the former President. Also looking forward to the CEO's actions and hopefully the All-In pod growth will be vast. Thanks for all of your words of wisdom and public opinions.
He's not so good an things like that...he's a crybaby that only wants things his way. He should go read some things about Neville Chamberlain...see how those policies worked out...
Interesting discussion. Almost every household in the whole world needs a robotic domestic helper to do cooking, laundry, cleaning etc., especially the elderly homes.
So helpful to get a focused view of the 1%'er's public take on the topics of the day in a much more efficient than perusing the old school corporate outlets!
Great show, guys! I'll never not be interested in this ever-evolving AI ecosystem and how it's affecting the global economy. Elon just announced that the "Robotaxi" announcement is coming 8/8. We're in for a wild next 4-5 years!
You can almost be sure that they'll be in SOME houses in three years. People will pay for the novelty and use them for stuff and show them off to their neighbors. If they're paying $100K+ for vehicles to feed their egos...they'll definitely pay for a Robot.
Do you know that the USA recently signed an agreement with Sweden? DCA Agreement. If this is voted yes by our politicians in June your military gets access to 17 different military bases in Sweden and lots of other things...
Very impressed with JCal over the years. He has shown the most growth, willingness to expose himself to other ideas and I think Sacks had a large role to play
You guys should talk about the Gemini crypto case! Supposedly depositors are getting their actual crypto back, *at current market price* which is what should have happened with FTX.
As you said to add some context , Putin has just called up 300,000 new troups . Macorn and Blinken have offered a responce to that action , to give the Russians something to think about . What we learned about foreign policy after WW I and WW ii is that we cannot sit on the sidelines just because we think it doesn't affect our national interests . Thats been settled . This all comes down to what we stand for , what we believe , and are we a reliable and trusted partner with our allies . And yes , that sometimes leads to war .
Yep. Sacks needs to quit being a coward. He should study Churchill and NOT Neville Chamberlin. Appeasement NEVER works long term against aggressive countries ruled by dictators. You either STOP Russia, here and NOW in Ukraine, by providing Anti-Missile Defenses and enough Ammo and Artillery...or you end up having to send in NATO Troops in 5 years when Russia attacks The Baltic States or gets in a Fight with Poland. Yeah, Bullies only respond positively to getting punched back in the mouth. Never to hiding and cowering. Learn some history Sacks, Learn how World Wars are NOT averted.
Bullshite. There's about 3 MILLION robot mowers for homeowners and lawn professionals. Go look up Husqvarna. Do some basic research before you sound off.
@@HueMongussD Bullshite. There's about 3 MILLION robot mowers for homeowners and lawn professionals. Go look up Husqvarna. Do some basic research before you sound off.
@@rileyandersen7346 Bullshite. There's about 3 MILLION robot mowers for homeowners and lawn professionals. Go look up Husqvarna. Do some basic research before you sound off.
@brendanreid8241 Go get'm, have at it, use your kids and your money instead of ours. Enough of US family's blood and resources have seeped into that dirt already for nothing more than wealthy people games. Ray is 100% right, when politicians can't fix their their shit economic policies they feed the sheep enough BS to push everyone's kids into a meat grinder.
@@nobobonobo It makes friends. Pretty much Every country in the world right now has had their borders impinged upon at one time or another and most of them needed help or allies to NOT become a vassal state. INCLUDING Russia, the US, British, French, Germans, etc. So pound sand Luhooser.
Biden is old enough to KNOW the history of WW2. If you have a hostile Power, such as Germany under Hitler, The Soviet Union under Lenin / Stalin, they will CONSISTENTLY invade other countries to attempt to build and Empire / Reich / Warsaw Pact, etc. You punch them in the Mouth NOW to stop them from larger invasions...or else you have to go to WW3, just like happened in the Previous TWO World Wars. The US CANNOT remain isolated...no matter how much cowards like Sacks want that to be true.
Hi guys. I listened to your podcast on Spotify. Now I joined it via RUclips. Love your podcast and format of discussion from all four POV. One point of contention is your guys position and understanding of Russian war in Ukraine. You are quite far from understanding true reason why it started and when decision was made to take over Ukraine. Btw joining NATO is just a token Russians asked knowing it won’t get fulfilled. If we said that Ukraine won’t join NATO, Russian would find another issues to request. Again they are not afraid of NATO. They know NATO passive military alliance. Besides Russians think they are best militarily. I read and listen Russian language info from many sources. You guys feed from US based news and it is not enough.
Let The Weeknd begin!
Hourly wages in the United States have been flat since 1973 when adjusted for inflation.
@@chrism.1131😂😂😂😂
Haaaa - that's a good one!
You mean Wokend, woke end
@@cigarsmoker999 i like this even more
Jcal looking like Jeffrey Dahmer
He's wearing his dad's glasses.
Thought it was a filter at first
I thought it was Ai generated
Robert Evans
Check his freezer
Well done Friedberg, amazing having him finally add value in geopolitical topics. I don’t think it’s his primary interest but definitely brings a unique, calculated and intelligent perspective. Love the Pod, keep up the amazing work!!
He thinks so pragmatically, its great to listen to him
John, please DO NOT change the theme song for All-In. It’s the best and I listen to it in its entirety before and after the pod. Love you besties!
If John changes the song, he should be fired on the spot as he will be making changes for change's sake, just to show that he's doing something without contributing any actual value.
I think it's Jon
If you change the song, I'm unsubscribing.
If I remember correctly - Friedberg actually made the song. Makes it even better
It's the best podcast intro song by far!
Jason, you are out of touch with the common man if you think the average person could afford $1,000 monthly to do housework! You could hire a human for less money, but a robot must cost less than a human. It is a cost/benefit issue; the benefit must exceed the cost to make any sense. Is there a home job/effort in an average home worth $1,000 for the person? Today, the average annual income in America is $63,795 (gross income before taxes), which is $5,316 per month, so $1,000 a month is 20% of their monthly income. Do you really think the average person will spend 20% of their gross monthly income to do the dishes and laundry? Really? There is a tipping point, but it is not $1,000 for the mass market.
Billionaires can't relate to lower class, or even middle class problems. They've been billionaire status since their 30s, their insight and inside info is the only thing useful to ys retail traders
Right, they have their area of expertise which is interesting and valuable to us. But sometimes they say stuff that reminds us we need to sense check things around other things that make no sense.
J-Cal is either spurs comedic relief or makes a mid comment. Unfortunately he brings down the quality of the show when compared to the rest of the besties.
Gentlemen, there is a difference between job categories and individual employment. Historically, productivity was enhanced and ended up leading to the desolation of entire towns and cities as the winds of change swept through them. Horse trainers and carriage builders did not suddenly become better at building cars, they died out. Draftsmen didn’t suddenly become proficient at CAD, they retired out. This is the first time that a change of this magnitude will outpace natural attrition.
Thank you for making this critical point so eloquently. The time component of the job destruction here is the critical factor. 👏👍🤘
Well let’s hope the productivity rise will give support to the ones with less will power to adapt. Understandable to folks 10-15 years before retirement.
Some carriage builders absolutely transitioned to automobiles
This is the first time I’ve seen this articulated properly and really poetically. Well done.
I actually laughed out loud at that “Sacks spearheading the interview process” bit 🤣
Jon’s title should be Director of Diva Management
Poor guy
That role is already taken by Nick Calacanis lol
@@DADNation_who is Nick?
hahaha
anything under $500k/year post-tax is not enough money
David Sachs is spot on with SBF . He is my favorite, and his viewpoints are usually fantastic.
That is actually sad. He is the most biased one out of all of them, which normally doesn't allow him to look at things rationally
That is actually sad. He is the most biased one out of all of them, which normally doesn't allow him to look at things rationally
You can say THAT again!
Truly fabulous how Jon says NOTHING. He's totally there for productivity and I love it.
Friday All-In is my favorite hour of the week (other than all the fabulous chaotic hours that involve my ladies 🙂).
Waiting for the South Park version of All-In...
It would be an instant classic 😂
(YUSSSSS!!)
Well said Mr. Sacks! We the people don't want WW3.
Learn history. Appeasement led to wwII.
With his suggestions you will have it very soon in Poland and Baltic countries
Nobody wants war thats a given. But Putin = Hitler : Psychopathic Putin wont stop at Ukraine. Either do you stop him now or have a much bigger mess to clean up later.
Appeasement has never prevented a war
A treaty to end a war is not appeasement. If there was a way to end this war with a negotiated settlement, that would be great. But Russia believes that Ukraine is historically part of Russia, as Putin lectured Tucker. He has made it clear that anything short of that is not acceptable. Telling him Ukraine will never be able to join NATO would result in no change in the war and only strengthen their resolve. The politico article was selectively quoted to make the war sound hopeless, which is not the main gist of the article. Ukraine can build the same type of fortifications that Russia has built and they can continue their war on Russian energy infrastructure, which is starting to bite. Where is the reporting on this? If this can shut in Russian Arctic wells, they will never be restored…having a huge impact on Russias ability to continue this war and possibly leading to $150 oil…BTW..telling someone with a different opinion that the don’t think” is the hallmark of someone with a closed mind with selective biases
the NATO WW3 segment should have been the first segment. One of your best segments ever.
Let’s call it „US hiding in a hole” corner.
I agree.. really enjoyed that one
@@brendanreid8241 or about of history.
100% agree. I skipped straight to the geopolitical segment.
@@brendanreid8241 100%. It's unfortunate because Chamath repeatedly points out the value of experience in ones sector, yet, for all their intelligence, they're utterly inexperienced and incredibly inexperienced in their area. They disparagingly right off any anti-Sacksian position as part of "the blob" consensus. Jay was for a moment the only one who mounted a sharp counterattack to Sacks' Putinist propaganda pumping, but he seems lately to just roll over and let Sacks spew his shitty analysis.
David overlooks that during the initial negotiations in Belarus, Russia “supposedly” not only demanded that Ukraine sign a treaty to prevent NATO membership but also proposed reverting NATO to its 1997 borders, effectively expelling 14 member states. Additionally, Russia insisted on recognizing Donetsk and other eastern regions of Ukraine as independent states and acknowledging the annexation of Crimea by the international community. If accurate, thats one hell of a request… While obviously I didn’t partake in the negotiations, both sides likely argue the reasonableness of their demands while accusing the other of overreach. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle. But geopolitics is never clear cut/simple..
It’s also worth noting that during the negotiations, miles of Russian armor was immobilized in knee high Ukrainian mud while getting slapped by US Javelins, Russia definitely wasn’t negotiating from a position of power at that time.
If Ukraine were to pursue NATO membership, it's likely to happen only after resolving the conflict with Russia. NATO requires unanimous approval from all 32 member states. Considering approval would invoke Article 5 and conflict with a nuclear power/Russia, several countries, would object. I’d say Hungary, Turkey, Spain, Italy, and Iceland would be a few of my guesses. But many others are likely to share similar concerns and vote against Ukraine's membership. I’d wager a good amount of cash it’s not happening while 155mm shells are being lobbed in Southeastern Europe.
I mean it will be decided after the war.
They could still go to war and sidestep Article 5. Besides countries like Turkey and Hungary would never vote and will at some point be kicked out of NATO
I'll bet it won't even be seriously considered until the conflict is resolved
Is Jon ok? He looks super happy to be there 😅
pmsl, first thing I thought was "oh, he's a barrel of laughs"
lol exactly my thoughts
I suspect that Jon isn't comfortable being on camera. He appears to be someone more at ease ruling the control room.
Hes tryna get shit done😂😂 He don’t got time to sit and smile
CEO in title only; they’ve hired a lo-key guy that won’t be a risk of stealing their limelight and someone they can push around.
Look forward to Friedberg's backgrounds every week 😍👍🏽
Three Uranus!
sacks keeps saying russia is winning the war, is that really the case, i thought the point of the war was to stop nato expansion and with this war russia caused finaland sweden to join nato and has increased the likelihood of Ukraine joining nato. You could be winning a war in terms of casualties land etc vs an opposing party but the true winner (as much of a winner as war could bring) of a war is the one who achieves his strategic purpose. Those who achieve their strategic purpose or are making progress towards it can outlast and endure,more casualty and destruction than you csn even imagine.
Putin is sacrificing the Russian military and KILLING their Demographics and sending the Working Age Men from Russia into a Death Trap where they're doing Wave Attacks and getting slaughtered to take a few hundred meters of ground. It's a nightmare for Russian Soldiers. The Ukrainians are taking heavy losses...but they're defending and striking Russian Tanks, Armored Vehicles and Soldiers every time they attack. NOT a good outcome. The USSR absolutely LOST in Afghanistan because you can't keep a country that large under control, if the population does NOT want you there. Russia losing tons of men and military equipment...while NATO gets TWO new advanced Militaries. Easily the worst decision Putin has made since he took office.
Is there really a war? It looks like 'television'...
That's an interesting point of view. Really makes NATO and the west look worse considering they are using Ukraine Meat Shields to achieve their strategic purpose. Would it be fair to say that Ukraine is losing the war, paying the highest price while NATO pats itself on the back and achieves their goal in the war?
On AI replacing jobs, History does not predict the future. New jobs will get created but AI will be able to learn and do those jobs better than any human can retrain. Beyond that there is a fundamental difference with this change that they are not talking about, we are attempting to replace intelligence. That encapsulates logic, planning, learning, reasoning, the whole human gambit. We are attempting to create something which is on par with humans at a cognitive level and eventually surpasses it. This isn't so much a new technology but an attempt to create our general ability as humans.
they're toning it down to create less panic and less regulations, they all are investing in AI companies, they all know it will replace more jobs than create them.
even sam altman said we WILL need UBI, but these guys are saying it will create so many more new jobs while they can't even mention one.
there is literally an AI currently that can control other AI agents, if that is the case now, imagine in 2 years.
even Klarna stated that every job reduction is replaced by AI and that there won't be an open listing for them in the future.
@@stockholmpublishings2937 It is cowardly though on their part. AI should usher in an age of abundance. Our discussions should revolve around how we can collectively embrace and share in this future. We need actual leaders to stand up and be the prominent voices talking about the transformative and radical changes in the context of the supports that need to put in place now to help the transition. Instead we have these men children talking about division while actively sowing it and propagating completely lies at the alter of more profits.
Since you all love poker so much guys, here is one you should understand. We no longer need to think about things in terms of zero sum games.
@@John12050well said
AI has limitations. For instance one job that's desperately needed is night nurse to newborns. Every woman having a baby would benefit from having one, but right now they're prohibitively expensive. An influx of women going into this field would be a huge benefit to society.
Do you think they became billionaires by looking out for the interests of workers? They openly admit they want us all laid off and replaced by AI. They would sell their own kids if the price was right.
So they're going to try to rent us household help at $1k/month? How out of touch are these guys with the average American's life???
True
People pay just as much for a car that sits in the driveway or parked in the sun for 90% of if it’s life time knowing damn well they can’t afford it lol. People will absolutely buy a robot just to be able to post on Instagram that they have one. How out of touch are you with people ridiculous spending habits all in the name of impressing people they don’t know online?
@Dcorp412 bruh if can do everything in the house it actually might be more useful than the car.
Optimus will be cheaper, more like $500/month for personal use. And eventually price will go down more.
But first it will replace employees who cost a lot more. For $1K/month you may get an undocumented immigrant with no skills. A skilled factory worker costs several time more, especially with the tons of added costs and taxes that comes with them. Then a robot can work 24/7/365, at 100% efficiency all the time. That's like 5x productivity, if not more.
So even at $10K/month humanoid robots would be selling like hotcakes.
Jason did say "middle class home," and in these guys' minds, when they think "middle class," they probably really are thinking of what's more like "upper middle class." People that do have more money to blow. Despite the struggles of lots of Americans, there's still many millions that could afford such luxuries.
Friedberg on point as always
I predict every Single male household will have a sex bot less than seven years.
*Chamath's assertion that the AI revolution is no more threatening to jobs than previous technological revolutions is highly unpersuasive. Comparing the birth of automobiles, mobile phones, social media or the internet to the birth of AI is apples and oranges. The difference with AI is that it's the revolution that revolution itself is predicated on, and the rate of advancement it's going to produce is so far beyond previous tech revolutions that it doesn't even compare. It's like saying you could survive falling off a 50 story building just because you survived falling down the stairs.*
I couldn't agree more.
I would go further - It's funny they debate Trump every week, totally ignoring the fact that a large number of people voted for Trump were doing so as a push back against the "costal elites" because they lost their jobs years ago and haven't seen improvement in their lives in decades. This is because many people who loose their jobs to technology do not move on to other higher paying careers improved by tech. If you travel to anywhere outside of London in the UK or across the US outsourcing and automation has gutted those communities and they have suffered since. This is why in the EU we have had the EU pay to prop-up communities.
Historically, the people who benefit from these kinds of improvements in technology are relatively small numbers of people living in major cities who are young enough to retrain and evolve with the tech, others get left behind. It seems to me that a small number of industries have benefitted over the last 20 years (namely, tech, media, finance, Pharma) and the increase they have seen has lead to the increase in the data that shows salaries being improved over time.
The changes with AI is very different to other tech improvements - this is affecting all industries and all types of roles, at once - totally replacing teams. The example of the credit company having the Customer Support team replaced by AI will happen across Banking, Physical Products, Software, Insurance,. Not to mention Telesales, software developers, nutritionists, tutors... this is way bigger and faster than most people can imagine.
@@mr_grillettoo many assumptions. Your anecdotes on disruption IMO are not givens. E.g. there are several scenarios where tutoring/teaching could be enhanced by AI not eliminated, even in the long term.
On top of that, new industriies and roles emerging are notoriously difficult to predict.
AI was not born these last couple years. It has been half a century of progress just showing its fruits now. But you are right about the exponential development of compute being hard to anticipate and compute was not as relevant for the other technological revolutions.
Totally agree. At the end of the day all 4 of these guys have vested interests in the propagation of AI within many industries and they aren’t going to talk about the threats to regular people losing their jobs. It’s always about ‘more efficiency’ and not about the impact to people’s livelihoods.
Exactly!!! I am astonished at how crazy their justifications were. It’s just basic logic. If we create a super intelligent AI that is smarter than all humans combined, cheaper to hire than an entire human workforce, and works faster and more reliably (no strikes, no healthcare, works 24/7), then 90%+ of jobs both now and in the future will be automated.
As a world-class math and physics tutor, I started teaching my students to do their arithmetic (which humans are AWFUL at) with Alexa about 5 years ago. Then, integrating Desmos, and online calculators, and now, of course, GPTs. However, the school system considers these tools "cheating", so I'm expecting most teacher will lose their jobs, to be replaced with higher paid, and more professional modern educators. Working with a tutor is essential for learning. Most importantly, one learns to speak properly to the agent (me, Alexa, GPTs) both with proper vocabulary and with logical sentence structures.
Education is virtually the same as it was a hundred years ago.
Can you imagine if the All-In Podcast was disseminated to only 30 people at a time, and they would have to redo the podcast thousands of times per week? It would be the absolute least efficient way of educating people, but this is exactly how our schools operate.
We could fire 99% of all administrators and teachers, pay the remaining $500k per year, and still save money while greatly improving education.
The department of education needs to be deleted.
@@scientificapproach6578 Yes! I would LOVE a raise. I can't get a job where I live because I'm not a woke commie queer.
Most brilliant comment ever made on the internet. I had the same thought when RUclips started taking off. You Tube U essentially is what I was thinking as a super efficient means of disseminating knowledge and experience.
Modern education is a stone age concept we are hanging onto with a death grip.
We need to let go and let what's possible.
We can discuss more together and hash this out more? I hope. ❤️
JCal going for the Dahmer look
Life was so good pre internet ... the 80' and 90's. People relied on each other and good relationships were important. Social media is destroying humans. AI and robots will be worse.
Productivity is the globalist trajan horse to rewrite society into a globalist social credit "utopia". Productivity at what cost to our humanity....
No
I agree with the social media part. Its also another vector foreign enemies can use to destabilize the US.
@@matviyk3066your wrong.
@@BowtieJDP I’m right. We are just in a really weird phase. We still don’t understand why we sit like npc’s on our phone. Non of these things are clear cut. It’s better to not be afraid so you can be adaptable and continue to grow strong relationships with close ones and get healthier.
Friedberg took Chamath back to school on the Hubspot thing…
And Sacks
You’d love to see it!
Its just refreshing when Friedberg actually speaks his mind. Too often he bites his tongue, to not offend or passes on topics that his view is going to be swamped by Sack’s overtures.
Agreed, Frieberg had some great points, I felt he may be a bit clouded based on Googles plans from 10+ years ago. Hubspot is garbage software and overpriced for it's value. Honestly I think Chamath is holding back that 8090 will be building a salesforce/Hubspot killer and the software will be worthless in 10 years. Is a 30+ billion acquisition in Hubspot going to drive more growth than an equivalent investment in AI related Tech which could kill the search model? Asking for a friend.
SBF didn't CREATE value from those investors. The Crypto price did. Who Gets the Difference? Cypto isn't Counted by Price It's Number of Tokens. If I had 7 Bitcoin then you owe me 7Bitcoin today.
Agreed with Friedberg. Consumer robots for $1000/month for household chores is ridiculous for middle class. This amount is a much larger percentage of people’s income as compared to those that is wealthy class.
Robots do become worth the $1000/month if it can work as a personal chef. Imagine never needing to buy takeout 🤯
It doesn't matter what percentage of someone's income it is. It matters how much utility it provides to consumer's lives and therefore how much they are willing to pay for it.
There is many other tasks being overlooked it can fill the role of.
Agree that that is too expensive for most people, but Friedburg (who I generally really like..) was like 'How much time do people actually spend doing those things?'
Errrrr, my wife and I probably do at least 4 hours of chores a day between us, with more on weekends - cooking, cleaning, washing up, tidying after kids, yardwork,, etc, etc.
That's 120 hours per month, so if something could save us from all those chores (admittedly that is likely some way off..) $1000 per month would be $8 per hour, which I would be more than willing to pay
@@Coldskier You can hire a cleaner for $30 an hour in many parts of the US. $1,000 is enough for 33 hours of cleaning by a professional cleaner. I don't see how a robot service can beat that.
Sacks FTX comments were correct. Customers aren’t made whole even if payments were in-kind. Just ask Celsius customers. Also a chapter 11. The only advantage is you have the assets returned & get to benefit from any future run up in prices.
lol J-Cal thinking there will be a middle class in 7 years
There will be
What the absurd.
During Vietnam war defence budget spending from GDP in USA was above 10%, now it is well below 3%.
Germany spent multiple time more on Greece bailout than on Ukraine support. I do not even talk about COVID.
The problem is not too much focus on war, it is exactly opposite, peace dividends made west blind, deterrence is not working anymore, and all problems with Russia and China come from that.
Just to be clear you want a war with Russia?
English is not your first language and you know nothing about the west.
Problems with Russia and China are mostly made up. Elites need an external enemy to divert public anger from them.
As they explained in the video, The Ukraine war is a direct consequence of the planned NATO expansion.
And China is just minding it's own business, not bothering anyone. OK, except Taiwan, but even that is partially self-defense against the US. China's problem is that it's access to global trade is easy to cut off, and Taiwan is an essential part of that.
Also China is threatening US dominance only because the latter became way too complacent and gave up it's lead in many areas, and willingly handed over it's industrial power to China for a little short term profit.
Strolling down to San Mateo downtown and grooving to the latest episode of the besties has become my Sunday ritual. Hands down to the best podcast in the world.
I used to listen to them while I made deliveries, love Jcal more and more and has become a vital part to the show. Thank you Chamath for helping me discover the podcast
Let’s have a Summit that we middle class entrepreneurs can afford to attend for a change. Remember we have way more numbers and can bring on the real BBQ!
Yes, how about curious humans??
At the end of the day, they can only have so many people and it's a relatively small number.
We have to earn our seat at the table, at least that how I rationalize not being able to afford it ATM.
@@Tannervdbg Pleb mentality.
They don't want you mixing in their circles. They only want other wealthy venture capital ghouls
I work in construction and am so excited to be able to buy a robot in the coming years. I think any sort of humanoid robot that can do simple things such as take out trash, dishes, laundry, etc. Would be an invaluable tool on the job-site. Having a worker than can do simple things like move materials or vacuum or hold a flashlight or whatever cost way more that 1000$ a month to hire a human. This will change the game
Brilliant convo on Google - Hubspot all four of you!
David S is the best! Loved the work he put in in finding John.
Fascinating Chamath business perspective
On the NATO topic - just want to check, are we thinking as Americans or as co-humans of this shared planet?
A sovereign nation is being invaded and murdered by another one.
If that nation was USA (or perhaps will be some day in the future) and you just happened to not be in the luxury situation of already being in NATO, would you feel the same?
No, right? You would hope and expect other principled nations to step up and present a unified front: mess with one means messing with all.
Also, honestly, would Russia really take on the entire NATO in that case - or back down?
The USSR, which was MUCH bigger population and Military than Russian Federation had to back down from Afghan Debacle 30 years ago. Russia will almost certainly have to back down eventually from Ukraine, if it is supported by NATO / EU / US. It's burning through ALL of its Soviet Era Weapons Systems, which was MOST of its military size.
Yes a “un-named” “high ranking” “official” lol that’s a great source no doubt accurate @1:14:15
Sacks would be screaming bloody murder if that was about the Angry Orange Man.
Friedberg. Clear thinking / no drama, every time
Is Calcanis wearing his dad's glasses?
He's been looking good lately! Definitely lost some weight
From Clint Eastwood memorabilia sale
Tinted glasses are hot right now.
No, mom's.
For AI robots, the economics seem more sensible for repetitive tasks performed by low-wage humans in commercial settings. A $1k/month robot that replaces a $3k/month human dishwasher would be an instant purchase by every restaurant and cafeteria.
For now it seems like it is more likely to replace lawyers rather than dishwashers.
@@dawidwtorek We can only hope!
Altman defines AGI as AI that can perform all economically valuable activities. This means the average human will not be able to create economic value to sustain themselves (without some form of redistribution), so basically, the All-In hosts are bearish on AGI or are just experiencing cognitive dissonance based on their ideology.
They’re not the brightest.
Right, the whole point of artificial *general* intelligence is that it can do anything a human can. This time IS different. All previous innovations discussed were just tools that automated aspects of human work, but not the human himself.
Why would redistribution be necessary if the cost of goods and services would crash to their bare minimums? Just because AGI can do all economically valuable activities doesn’t mean it will, humans will still be preferred for many tasks
OR AGI cannot perform ALL economically valuable activities, and thus is never achievable.
Exactly whatever jobs get "created " will be filled by another AI agent. They are thinking in the past, nothing has been like this before, not the industrial revolution nor the agriculture revolution etc
Much appreciate the pod making corrections. Definitely tough to figure out where to get the best info on any subject these days. Appreciate everyone’s best effort. Sticking with you boys 👍🏻😉
Thank you !!! For correcting the record in FTX shareholders. Very important correction.
Welcome Jon, and congratulations on becoming the CEO of The All In Podcast! Wishing you a wonderful and successful time in your new role!
LOL @ 1:07:00 - Jason describing a PRIUS to Chamath.... "a $15K car... that common folk drive."
Good show Besties! For the record, I've never tried a dating app. I've heard too many horror stories. I think the only socializing I do is commenting online. I know I'll never meet any of the people on these podcasts in real life. That's okay. The shows are fun to watch and I always learn something new. Congratulations and welcome to the All-In CEO, Jon Haile!
Great data Chamath. That helps in an AI evolutionary way. ☀️😎🎬
Best of luck Jon! Excited for the future of All In
Chamath to his family, "Id like to summarize my thoughts in 3 charts"😂
That's actually a pretty interesting idea. I need a pie chart to show me where I'm spending all of my time. Would you enjoy a pie chart too? Optimize for bigger slices of pie dedicated to doing things that matter most. GamiFy it and make it fun to see the pie chart change over time, bigger slices of pizza 🍕 means you get a free 2 litre Coke, on ice to reward the efforts to make smaller pieces here, and larger pieces over there. Your thought? Thanks 😊 We can discuss over pizza 🍕 lol
JCal looks like he hit Robert Evans estate sale with those glasses.
DF is bang on that these wallets were intended to store non-dollar-denominated assets, and on that basis the liquidation and payback scheme is not defensible.
What Sacks is talking about regarding the promise of neutrality and not joining NATO is exactly what happened with Ukraine and Georgia in 2004. Both countries wanted to join, but Germany and France pushed for this not to happen. The result? Russia invaded both. Believing that Russia has good intentions and only wants neutrality is naive.
Good old Sacks-y went to the Neville Chamberlain School of Dictator Appeasement. Don't mess with my Yacht and you can have any country that I wouldn't visit.
on pace for a fresh Sacks conspiracy theory per episode at this point
Yep. He's lost it...
Jcal's perspective on Google Hubspot data benefit is genius
We love you fellas, but I think we all know that David Sacks is our hero :)
NOPE. He's a coward...he's trying out for a role in the NEW Neville Chamberlain movie...Appeasement in Kyiv...how I created the NEXT Warsaw Pact. He should definitely stick to SaaS and leave the pandering to Russian Strongmen to Drump.
The last segment on Ukraine was gold.
Mexican Moms will approve of the cleaning help as long as the Robot mops.🤨
MMs hate to mop the floor. ☝🏽😊🙏🏽
Google / HubSpot convo was incredible. Please, more SaaS discussions!
Besties fighting back against VR by throwing live events
David Sacks clearly has not watched the official Putin video announcing the special military operation. C'mon David, get your facts straight. Neutrality was never Russia's goal. Also, what about the Budapest memorandum? If not for the US, Ukraine could have had thousands of nukes to defend itself.
In the gym and I've been refreshing my feed between every set for this.
There's no way that NATO is going to admit Ukraine as long as the conflict continues. It's just not going to happen until (and if) the conflict ends, and Ukraine normalizes.
Disappointed no mention of Israel, bombing of embassy and killing of innocent aid workers as part of the overall escalation. Is there a reason for that?
They don’t care!
Bombs go off in middle east all the time. It's not news.
Best tech pod in the world. Well done.
Sacks you’re so wrong about Ukraine issue. You’re actually a delusional by saying they are losing, especially considering they are outnumbered and under supported by US
Also Ukraine is fighting without aviation support
💯 agree with Chamath on in person communities and the opportunities. I work with early stage tech startups on GTM. When building out these I always suggest building in this. It not only helps build brand, but creates a barrier to entry and you won’t have to play the expensive retention game so hard.
I feel like Sacks and Jcal's opposing arguments on Ukraine perfectly exemplify what has traditionally been U.S. foreign policy versus more of the realpolitik. I.e. Jcal is arguing that the U.S. should do what it perceives as standing up for and promoting western-style government, while Sacks is arguing for realpolitik what is best for us now, which would be to minimize our involvement. Both arguments certainly have their merits, and it's nice to see intelligent people having a civil debate
Probably my favorite channel on RUclips for close to 2 years... I only realized I was not subscribed when he mentioned the 1 million subscriber party.
Please… no second term for Biden no!
Unfortunately it is MUCH better than the Angry Orange Mussolini Wannabee. The Reps could have actually picked ANY competent Republican and would have WON the election hands down...but they want a crazy ex-reality TV failure. No thanks...we'd like to have future elections in this country.
Great pod as always. Love the diversity of opinions
I agree with Mr. Sacks response to J-Cal asking him how is his constant attacking and criticism of everything negative against Trump relevant to the pod- and if so is it necessary to repeatedly mention it so often- especially if it's just for J-Cal to state his critical opinion since he clearly doesn't approve of the former President.
Also looking forward to the CEO's actions and hopefully the All-In pod growth will be vast.
Thanks for all of your words of wisdom and public opinions.
Thank you all for all your hard works!
Didn't hear Sacks tell everyone that countries cannot join NATO while they have ongoing territorial conflicts.
He's not so good an things like that...he's a crybaby that only wants things his way. He should go read some things about Neville Chamberlain...see how those policies worked out...
Interesting discussion. Almost every household in the whole world needs a robotic domestic helper to do cooking, laundry, cleaning etc., especially the elderly homes.
It’s interesting watching the All-In Podcast-four capitalists-advocating and getting excited for Fully Automated Luxury Communism.
So helpful to get a focused view of the 1%'er's public take on the topics of the day in a much more efficient than perusing the old school corporate outlets!
Jason thinks every middle class household can spend $1000 a month on a robot? lol
Great show, guys! I'll never not be interested in this ever-evolving AI ecosystem and how it's affecting the global economy. Elon just announced that the "Robotaxi" announcement is coming 8/8. We're in for a wild next 4-5 years!
Love Sachs and his sarcasm “who is this” at Jon hahaha ❤
Should be noted under Wilson & Roosevelt there were no term limits for president, so they were concerned with reelection..
100% correct. Love this podcast, their take on Ukraine is awful
Sacks is correct yet again! No way $1000 per month domestic robots are in the house in three years.
Yeah, I cringed. A year ago they were saying xx% of software developers will be out of job due to ChatGPT, I cringed then as well
You can almost be sure that they'll be in SOME houses in three years. People will pay for the novelty and use them for stuff and show them off to their neighbors. If they're paying $100K+ for vehicles to feed their egos...they'll definitely pay for a Robot.
Jon seems super excited!!
Do you know that the USA recently signed an agreement with Sweden?
DCA Agreement.
If this is voted yes by our politicians in June
your military gets access to 17 different military bases in Sweden and lots of other things...
Similar agreement was done with Finland and US is starting to stockpile largest weapons dump in nordics right next to Russian border.
Yes, It's Part of NATO...
Great move to focus on community! You guys know how to tap into your target audience
Great episode. I know who to vote for, and so will everyone I know, I guess
Best podcast channel.
Very enlightening.
Very impressed with JCal over the years. He has shown the most growth, willingness to expose himself to other ideas and I think Sacks had a large role to play
You guys should talk about the Gemini crypto case! Supposedly depositors are getting their actual crypto back, *at current market price* which is what should have happened with FTX.
guys you missed the most important news this week Tesla FSD version 12.3 ... self driving cars!!!
LOL....
Totally agree people are ready for community meet ups!
As you said to add some context , Putin has just called up 300,000 new troups . Macorn and Blinken have offered a responce to that action , to give the Russians something to think about . What we learned about foreign policy after WW I and WW ii is that we cannot sit on the sidelines just because we think it doesn't affect our national interests . Thats been settled . This all comes down to what we stand for , what we believe , and are we a reliable and trusted partner with our allies . And yes , that sometimes leads to war .
Yep. Sacks needs to quit being a coward. He should study Churchill and NOT Neville Chamberlin. Appeasement NEVER works long term against aggressive countries ruled by dictators. You either STOP Russia, here and NOW in Ukraine, by providing Anti-Missile Defenses and enough Ammo and Artillery...or you end up having to send in NATO Troops in 5 years when Russia attacks The Baltic States or gets in a Fight with Poland. Yeah, Bullies only respond positively to getting punched back in the mouth. Never to hiding and cowering. Learn some history Sacks, Learn how World Wars are NOT averted.
"That's been settled". That's what you think.
I’m down to attend the Wynn Celebration party!!! 1 MILLION TO THE MOON 🌕
Tony Stark glasses 😂
Unfortunately for JCal he don't look like RDJ.
Our house cleaners are up to $600/mth. We would easily pay $1000/mth for a robot that cleaned the house and did daily household tasks. Easily.
We dont have lawnmowers that are automated. Were far away from dishwasher laundry bots.
Actually, there was an autonomous lawnmower developed. Didn't catch on for some reason. I think it was due to the price point. Way too expensive.
@@HueMongussD I remember seeing that. It was mainly for golf courses I think. And most importantly - no one is using one.
Bullshite. There's about 3 MILLION robot mowers for homeowners and lawn professionals. Go look up Husqvarna. Do some basic research before you sound off.
@@HueMongussD Bullshite. There's about 3 MILLION robot mowers for homeowners and lawn professionals. Go look up Husqvarna. Do some basic research before you sound off.
@@rileyandersen7346 Bullshite. There's about 3 MILLION robot mowers for homeowners and lawn professionals. Go look up Husqvarna. Do some basic research before you sound off.
Apart from sending emails, building product and talking to users, listening to All-in weekly should also be part of a founder's routine
🤔 How is listening to the latest Russia, conspiracy theory accretive to helping one successfully run a business?
We have get these psychopaths out of power. None of them would ever send their loved ones to the frontlines.
100% accurate and they would seek diplomatic resolutions far ahead of letting things go this far.
@brendanreid8241 Go get'm, have at it, use your kids and your money instead of ours. Enough of US family's blood and resources have seeped into that dirt already for nothing more than wealthy people games. Ray is 100% right, when politicians can't fix their their shit economic policies they feed the sheep enough BS to push everyone's kids into a meat grinder.
@@brendanreid8241how can a country be sovereign if it can't defend its borders?
@@nobobonobo It makes friends. Pretty much Every country in the world right now has had their borders impinged upon at one time or another and most of them needed help or allies to NOT become a vassal state. INCLUDING Russia, the US, British, French, Germans, etc. So pound sand Luhooser.
Biden is old enough to KNOW the history of WW2. If you have a hostile Power, such as Germany under Hitler, The Soviet Union under Lenin / Stalin, they will CONSISTENTLY invade other countries to attempt to build and Empire / Reich / Warsaw Pact, etc. You punch them in the Mouth NOW to stop them from larger invasions...or else you have to go to WW3, just like happened in the Previous TWO World Wars. The US CANNOT remain isolated...no matter how much cowards like Sacks want that to be true.
Hi guys. I listened to your podcast on Spotify. Now I joined it via RUclips. Love your podcast and format of discussion from all four POV. One point of contention is your guys position and understanding of Russian war in Ukraine. You are quite far from understanding true reason why it started and when decision was made to take over Ukraine. Btw joining NATO is just a token Russians asked knowing it won’t get fulfilled. If we said that Ukraine won’t join NATO, Russian would find another issues to request.
Again they are not afraid of NATO. They know NATO passive military alliance. Besides Russians think they are best militarily.
I read and listen Russian language info from many sources. You guys feed from US based news and it is not enough.