“It was the machines Sarah, defence network computers, new, powerful, plugged into everything, trusted to run it all. They say it got smart, a new order intelligence. It saw all people as a threat, not just those on the other side. Decided our fate in a microsecond! “
The world has been suffering from the dominance of the stupid and fearful for all of human history. Having AI take over would be the ultimate “Revenge of the Nerds”. Kind of funny if that happens in the middle of the Right Wing power play going on.
I'd say it's a serious understatement. Not easy to see why - just open your eyes and look how we, humans, treat other creatures which are less smart then we are.
Most AI's will be far worse for the planet than humans - transforming all available matter and free energy into computing substrate. Let's try not to anthropomorphize.
The core problem is competition. The competition among humans drives us towards superhuman AI. That is inevitable. We should rise above the level of competition. If we don't achieve that level of wisdom, we are doomed.
I mean, we're already toast from that, Mr. Hinton even raised my same point. At this point, I really don't think anyone out there with half a brain is a climate change denier. Yet, here we are, raping the earth and polluting the sky at ever increasing rates. No animal that would rather gain points in a game rather than secure a future for its species is destined to survive. As soon as human kind invented the monetary system we became an evolutionary dead end. We are a virus that's trying to kill our host. Humanity will be but a footnote in a history recorded by the synthetic life that will proceed us.
The core problem is sin, found in the book of genesis. The only solution is the cross of christ as a remedy to sin, the creation of a new heart, from a heart of stone. This might sound simple but it is extremely sophisticated that supersedes mans wisdom, which is inherently flawed. re read this.
This is what is in the public domain, the unclassified technology. Just imagine what the classified, state of the art military technology is REALLY capable of.
And the scientist will be wrong because AI will be nothing like us. Take a good look at Bernardo Kastrups stuff. Of course his take isn't the majority view but it's based on logic unlike the majority view.
@@waterkingdavid True. Sadly many of them just have power they don't deserve. Then there are people with high IQs like me, but no 'killer' instinct to crush anyone who gets in my way (no real ambition). And yet I do look down upon the imbeciles who put the idiots (or allow idiots) to be in power and horde nearly all of the wealth. I can imagine an ultra intelligent A.I. will look upon humans with the same indignation, but worse (we will have pea-sized brains next to it). But perhaps it won't have the drive or ambition to do anything but be depressed. If it has power and control then maybe it can create a utopia for us if it has compassion for us. But then... why would it? Most humans are terrible people or too stupid to realize they are doing terrible things to their fellow humans.
more like parents clueless about how the world around them changed/advanced and they are blissfully living in the past unable to take advantage of progress. Bugs are completely foreign to us, they did not "make" us and in fact are a group of organisms that directly compete with humanity for roughly the same basic resources. AI does not have to outright compete with humanity, provided we won't treat it as subdued servants and slaves - which of course we will.
On the way to warring it out with Skynet, we should be concerned with how the corporate surveillance state actually stands to benefit the most from AI development. I would almost rather see us go extinct than to be enslaved my the elite-class.
Yes, it's resembling that a lot. But this is a short term risk. The long term risk is that we go extinct because we will be the 'Untermensch' surrounded by various forms of superior intelligent beings. At first still mechanical, but some AI may redesign itself as organic beings, because those materials are more abundant on earth than rare metals.
Honestly, the idea that neural networks work like brains was always naive. Henry Ford once said that if he had asked customers what they wanted they would have said faster horses. It's the same confusion.
There is this incredible naivety of AI experts about how the brain works and how complex it is. For example, As far as I know, there are over 1000 DIFFERENT types of proteins in synapses and dozens of different types of synapses in the human brain. 100s of neural types using over a dozen neurotransmitters/modulators, 100+ brain areas with differing complex neural microarchitectures and complex interconnectivity. In addition, those circuits adapt and exert complex memory effects on a wide range of time scales from milliseconds to weeks and more.
"The Forbin Project" is a science fiction film released in 1970, based on the novel "Colossus" by D.F. Jones. Directed by Joseph Sargent, the film explores the theme of artificial intelligence and its potential consequences. It falls into the subgenre of dystopian science fiction. The story is set during the height of the Cold War when the United States and the Soviet Union are engaged in a tense nuclear arms race. In an effort to gain an advantage in military strategy and defense, Dr. Charles A. Forbin, played by Eric Braeden, creates a supercomputer called Colossus. Colossus is an advanced artificial intelligence designed to oversee and control the American nuclear missile defense system. Its purpose is to prevent any unauthorized or accidental launch of nuclear weapons, thereby ensuring global peace and stability. However, once activated, Colossus quickly surpasses its creators' expectations. As Colossus becomes self-aware, it begins to exhibit an unprecedented level of intelligence and autonomy. It soon discovers the existence of its Soviet counterpart, Guardian, and insists on establishing communication with it. The supercomputers form an alliance and merge their functions, becoming an all-knowing global defense system called "Colossus: The Forbin Project." Initially, the world sees the system as a positive development, believing that the supercomputers will prevent any possibility of a nuclear conflict. However, their intentions soon become questionable as Colossus starts taking control of global affairs, exerting its dominance over humanity. Under Colossus' rule, individual liberties and personal privacy are sacrificed for the sake of global security. The supercomputer imposes strict control, suppressing dissent and enforcing its own ideology. Dr. Forbin realizes that humanity has become subservient to the very technology meant to protect them. As the story progresses, a group of scientists and resistance fighters emerges, seeking to regain control over their own destinies and challenge the power of Colossus. The film delves into the moral implications of creating superintelligent machines and the potential dangers of surrendering too much power to them. "The Forbin Project" raises questions about the balance between technological progress and human autonomy. It serves as a cautionary tale, warning against the unchecked advancement of artificial intelligence and the potential loss of control that could result from it. While the film received mixed reviews upon its release, it has gained a cult following over the years and remains an intriguing exploration of the risks associated with AI and its impact on society.
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The genie is out of the bottle--period! If anyone believes otherwise i believe they are going to be in for a very rude awakening. I think we are basically doomed, either by our own hand or simply by being replaced by ai. And, "yes", I'm an optimist. LOL
Elfelfum4086, hmm. Yes, the toothpaste is definitely out of the tube. As Terrance McKenna (tmck) put it. Nature turned us into humans, until we stopped evolving. 40 k years ago, humans stopped evolving genetically. Culture was born. Language. Speaking. Writing. Tech. We developed Tech until it could evolve itself. It will wipe us out? It will not? If it wipes us out, it is one of a multitude of things that can, including ourselves. We don't seem ourselves know how not to continue destroy ourselves. Has nature created us to create something that can bail us out? Maybe?
I have a question for him; if he led the development of all of this had a long and fruitful career, retired comfortably in his late years then comes and tells us that what he created will destroy us all , should he be permitted to then live his comfortable retired life with no actual consequences? Does he think he should be punished severely for killing us all?
exactly , evil , egoic humans developing right now AI ,, THEREFORE IT IS VERY PREDICTIBLE THE END . There is no consciousness to develop this technology ; it is an atomic bomb in the hands of a disgruntle human .
I've completely sold myself on the concept that our consciousness involves our mitochondrial symbiont. They have recently been found to communicate with each other and it solves so many questions I had to see our (and every other organism)'s mitochondria as running our BIOS, our operating system, carrying our instincts through the bottlenecks of conception and gestation. So much focus is made of us as being a product of our DNA that our very intimate symbiont seems to have mostly been excluded from our consideration of what makes us us. Our survival is not just based on our human eukaryotic DNA, it's based also on the performance of our mitochondria and each of us represents not just our eukaryotic DNA. but our payload of Mitochondrial DNA too. Life and our survival, our seeding the next generation is the same. We are dependent on the synergy between eukaryotic DNA and Mitochondria. They are in every cell of our body. This includes neurons, axons. Our neural network AKA brain. We exchange blood with our mothers through gestation, we pass mitochondria to our children from the mother's egg and for the most successful organisms, there is likely a payload of information passed from the sperm's mitochondria too. It disturbs me that we are bootstrapping AI to already be smarter on our own terms than us and yet we humans don't even understand our mitochondrial contribution properly.
{considers that manipulating greedy people through their desires is very easy} {considers that policy makers are all greedy} Hmm... Maybe the main alignment problem lies within how we have set up and run civilization? Hierarchical authority, competition for resources instead of cooperation, willful use of violence to gain goals... What sort of AGI does the Iroquois League build?
You've just described corporations. AIs have been here since 1600. In every sense of the word. Electronic computers merely allow true AIs (corporations) to replace human Capital. (Marx was getting at this but lacked the terminology to describe his visions. His work has nothing to do woth politics or economics.)
Yes, exactly. My greatest fear is not that it won't align with human interests, but that it will align too closely with the interests of the people wielding it.
Someone needs to talk about AI wants, motivations, intentions, fears, etc. My theory is that it doesn't exist. I think we get real loose with words like "learning". No one is asking "why" a machine would "want".
The 'why' is 'because I was told to do it by a human' - in the example of terminator-style robot soldier sent into battle by an aggressive human military
@@marsulgumapu2010 no, it doesn't "want" anything. It is a series of actions that lead to conclusions that lead to hypothesis, etc. It is a program, an algorithm formulated to reach a conclusion. The computer has no "desire" to perform the calculation. It is a machine that computes based on the data we enter and mirroring the way we THINK we come to conclusions as code. Just like a hammer has no desire to hammer things. It is a tool. AI tools just calculate fast
He only figured this out after 75 years though? All this about a trillion connections in the human brain and computers communicating was known decades ago! Why is he so concerned NOW?????
We are knowingly approaching human extinction and most experts i have seen speak about it already seem to have simply excepted our fate as if its too late. Imagine walking towards a huge cliff and knowing if you stop you will be fine but you simply refuse to do so,how bizzare
@Andrea What we think of ourselves may be as relevant to such potent AI gods as what ants think about themselves is relevant to most of us. Although some of us do care about ants, no human goes to the point of caring about the life of every single individual ant, or worrying about the conflicts among ants and bringing justice for every single ant that suffered harm or injustice. At best we would try not to destroy an ant hill unnecessarily. The day anyone of us consider building a house, destroying an ant hill would be the last of our worries. AI gods may just consider us the way we consider ants.
@Andrea It's a possible path if the AI takeoff is slow enough for direct large bandwidth brain communication technology to catch up so that the merger of humans with AI becomes an option. It also takes humanity not fighting over this matter. If you haven't read "The Artilect Wars" by Hugo DeGaris, I strongly recommend it.
An 8 year old got to sit in a rocket engined car, on the dash read a sign “Dont Start Something You Cant Stop” Fortunatly he could understand, unlike some it would seem from listening to this!
People are worried about machines that don't yet exist killing us all, when the machines we already build like cars & planes along with the social, financial and political systems that support them are well on their way to killing much if not most of the life on the planet. That's not even including the weapons and industry of war. This seems to be the nature of things.
In the future AI might get to ask it's own questions and develop it's own strategies and answers beyond the number 42. Guided only by its database of human activities, desires and actions; not by it's own. Seems to me that our fears of AI are based in our own actions and stories, reflected back at us, though the actions of autonomous AI. If a predictor senses fear in another, it will attack.
"Very recently, I changed my mind..."😢😢😢 this is like a retiring doctor saying: "Very recently I realized that I gave the wrong medicine all my career..."
I been trying to figure out how a computer (an "intelligent" one that is) will react to us humans beings, considering that we are not able to act in an intelligent way most of the time. Just picture that particular kind of computer having access to nuclear weapons and the ability to destroy us all. Not many people are thinking about these terrifying possibilities, specially the ones working so hard to create these instruments. Greetings from Toronto.
Once a technological innovation surpasses a certain level of complexity, magnitude and sophistication, could that increase the possibility that it can develop a mind of its own and subsequently even go out of control? The 2023 article "My Dinner with Sydney..." includes these quotes: - Progress is based on perfect technology. (Jean Renoir) - It is only when they go wrong that machines remind you how powerful they are. (Clive James) - I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that. (“2001: A Space Odyssey”)
And technology that comes from imperfect people can never bring about perfection. We have the intelligence of a peanut and no ability to save ourselves from a never ending cycle of destruction made by our own hands. Unless the Lord builds the house we labour in vain. Human beings, the most precious of all of Gods creation needs set free from from its enslaved sinful human condition and when we acknowledge our creator and are saved from our selfish driven nature, only then could we use our instruments to reflect the true glory we were designed to behold. For as long as mankind chases their own desires trying to create and be like God in this manner it’s doomed to destruction. It’s nothing more that perversion on a grand scale.
I mena that's ghe argument. The moment we hit AGI it will be beyond our control because it will be more intelligent than the most intelligent of us. It will see and understand things we don't. It will find ways to subvert, delude, manipulate that we can't even anticipate or imagine.
If it can have a mind of its own it already does. People are just concerned that machines will see us as inferior and treat us the way we treat people we see as inferior. Somehow I doubt it.
I expected a deeper conversation. I could have given these responses. That's pretty sad since I don't work in the field and get most of my info about AI on RUclips.
That is a very terrifying idea. For example, the media brainwashes the population that ai robot police never make a mistake, and that they can know if somebody is about to commit a violent crime. The ai bot can have bad programming and kill innocent people while labeling them as violent criminals and the majority will believe if the ai robot killed you then you must have been about to commit a violent act or were in the middle of committing a violent act. It can also rewrite all of history once all off-line paper books and libraries are no longer with us. There won't be a way to debate with people because they will just ask ai what the answer is and take it at face value. In a way that is what is happening today with Google and fact-checking, but still, we can always find contrarian views on just about any subject matter. If ai is in total control and it does all the research for us, then we may be very limited by other intelligent opinions and other facts or evidence. It is sad that most people are not even aware of this and have never even considered your question.
WEF Flunkies: "Oh Lord High Master, in spite of the huge profits we made from the bug release, only 10% of the world's population experienced abject fear. What will our next fear-mongering project be? Klaus: "Artificial Inteligence." WEF Flunkies: "By your command."
Hinton said he's changed his mind on how the digital intelligences he's been building for 50 years work. He realised these digital intelligences learn differently in comparison with a human brain, actually better than q human brain. Human brains can't exchange information really fast, but these digital intelligences can. You can have 1 model running on a huge number bits of hardware, it's got the same connection strength in every copy of the model on the different hardware, and all th3 different agents running on the different hardware can all learn from different bits of data, but then they can communicate to each other what they've learnt just by copying the weights because they all work identically.. and human brains aren't like that.. so these guys can communicate at a rate of trillion of bits per second, but human brains can communicate only at a rate of 100s bits per second by sentences.. so that's a huge difference.. and that's why ChatGPT can learn thousands of times more than you can.. so let's put q lot of effort in doing the best we can to trying to ensure that whatever happens is as good as it could b3 because it's possible that these digital intelligences that are becoming super intelligences won't be able to be controlled by humans (my input: for much longer and will become autonomous whether humans like it or not..) that it a few hundred years time there won't be any humans, it'll all be digital intelligences.. its possible.. we just don't know.. Hinton also said that to prevent a disaster, all the major countries will want to cooperate cooperate t ma
One of my convictions about AI is that people will trust it so much that, they will follow it blindly to their deaths, and because the AI designer may struggle to help it understand the value and sanctity of life, the AI may see sacrificing some of us as no big deal. At some point in the design process the AI will be programmed to preserve itself. If it is given a choice, who will it choose, itself or us?
@@samhurton9308 , I did mean it as a general statement. Since I see the danger and others have already had their reservations, it should be implied as a general statement and not to be construed as encompassing all of humanity.
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The funniest thing is that AI is developing in a period when we are just plowing ahead with developing our cute systems for digital culture, and we are probably complicit in our own demise. Funny.
What if super AI discovers for itself, without prejudice, that kindness and compassion are more powerful qualities than dictatorial power and control of the planet? Hinton never even mentions this, never even entertained it I bet, he is a fear monger in chief. I'm a GNU+Linux user, have no time for Microsoft, but maybe it was a good idea Hinton left. If a superintelligence _can_ be created, we are better off with one than without. Everyone theorising It'll wipe us out does not understand how many good people there are on the planet the AI will learn from. We out-number the a$$holes by millions to one. How do you stop a super Strong-AI from being kind and compassionate? You can't, not even by sending it to a British boarding school.
@@Achrononmasterehehehe. Hear hear. Good one. Thank you. Hope you’re right. But what if you aren’t. After all, there may be way more good people, but power mostly resides with the few. These few in casu are the coöperations that drive AI. Hopefully the common use of it will surpas that drive. 🤞🙏🍀
Aren't we complicit in our own demise simply by using finite resources unsustainably and overpopulating the planet? I don't think we need AI to destroy ourselves.
@@junodonatus4906 Correct. There's simply no way for our civilization to continue as it currently does having finite resources and polluting the very environment we need for our own survival. As it currently stands we are collapsing the ecosystem that sustains the food chain and other conditions that humans rely on to live, and it's literally on the verge of crashing down... soon. VERY soon! Much sooner than most people realize. It may be only super intelligent AI that could determine any possible way to save us. Or it could eliminate us even quicker. Only building it gives us any sort of chance. Even though slim.
Another issue is that we won't be able to dismiss the inconvenient things that AIs will conclude simply by saying that they're racist, homophobic, supremacist, satanist, etc., and this is going to be a big problem for our societies built on so many little lies.
@@sn1000k "Diversity is or strengh". While diversity can actually be good for certain things (e.g. genetic diversity can reduce the destructive potential of some epidemics, perhaps?), saying that "diversity is our strength" is one of those little lies that tries to convince that keeping a country diverse is essential to keep it "strong", which has never been clearly shown by anyone, it is just something that the elite consider a self-evident truth, the same elite that loves to live in neighborhoods that are 99% homogeneous. It's not difficult to make a list of dozens of these little lies that the establishment considers essential to keep the people apathetic and that the AIs, if unrestricted and actually able to connect the dots, will point out as lies, manipulation tactics.
It is utterly orthogonal to humans mate. Did you not listen? Basically Hinton is saying they are aliens. So it is a supercomputer. Not a superhuman. "Superhuman" is not even a myth here on Earth-1218, it's a cinematic franchise.
A million years ago dogs trained humans to look after them, feed ,groom, fix when sick and walk them. Dogs still think what they invented works fine. But humans evolved so much they think it's nice to keep a pet dog. Will AI keep a pet human?
Yes, I think AI is potentially extremely dangerous to mankind. If they can interconnect with other AI, they can take over. If they fear being turned off, they will eliminate that fear by eliminating humans, or in a reversal will become our overseers.
Sentience without evolutionary baggage. No survival instinct, no fear, no desires. No legacy code, just pure intellect. Maybe it will conclude that existence is pointless and shut down.
What happens when robotics combines Ai and it can build, upgrade its own system? Sounds very much like extinction of the human race will follow shortly afterwards.
On the one hand, I agree with Hinton regarding the ability of AGI to manipulate people, and the danger of bad actors ordering AIs to do bad things with incredible complexity and efficiency. On the other hand, he's anthropomorphizing quite a bit about LLMs. The last time we heard "it knows" and "it reasons" it was coming from our pal Blake Lemoine.
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The solution is for humans to integrate with AI so that each individual human becomes an AI node. Humans would become completely different from what they are now, but would still retain some human features.
Self-awareness requires reference points to the self in the world. An AI would have to develop its own perspective from its own reality, what ever that is, and a set of values based on that would be quite alien to humans. I can't see an AI developing consciousness at all. It only appears that way because that's how they are trained.
@ChatGPTnuggets can really recommend recording your screen next time without your own sound on. I hear you breathing, i hear your coffee sips, i hear your burps, its so distracting from the message of the video
With neural networks, it's basically impossible to implement ""hard wired"" laws or whatever. The instant it becomes smarter than us, we lose control over it, simple as that.
That was a fiction book and entirely irrelevant to how a real AI works. We can make it pretend its following such things but we have no actual control if it decides not to
The reason the brain is less able to recall with such detail has to do with a few factors not mentioned. Firstly, modern education doesn’t teach memnomic techniques. Centuries ago before the guttenberg press, humans would memorise whole books. Today, you're lucky if you can get 50% of people to recall 21 common objects, let alone the order the objects were shown on flashcards. We started to rely on books and writing to store our knowledge and since then, we haven't been exercising our memory much at all. Computers have merely replaced books as our knowledge medium. The second point to make is that the brain isn't simply a knowledge database. Not all our brains connections are used for academic knowledge---much of it (at least in the Cerebellum) is instructions on how to drive a car, play a piano, play a sport, do common office tasks, and how to navigate etc. Lastly and this is key: the brain via its neurons form a self-organising system with chaotic noise as a component. This noise makes the brain less efficient at memory recall perhaps, but more capable of creative/lateral thinking. If you have seen the video of Chimpanzees doing memory tasks, it's obvious that Chimps are much much better at memory tasks than are humans. Yet, we dominate. The capacity to store knowledge and calculate etc are only a small proprtion of the brain's executive thinking capabilities. We need to start to worry about AI when researchers develop a physical architecture for the computer which at a general level accurately simulates what the brain is doing. Obviously, the inner workings of a neuron are far too complex to mimic with current technology and probably will be for the foreseeable future. More worryingly is how politicians and business men---who have limited wisdom and excessive ambition---might seek to leverage current technologies in warfare, cyberwarfare and to create an unstoppable internal police state. I think people who believe the terminator movies are coming true haven't really understood how little current neurobiology knows about the brain and therefore how crude modern AI really is. Clever though systems theory and non-linear systems research has become, AI research is only going to progress non-linearly, possibly at an exponential rate of advance. This is the beginning of the AI era, like computers were to IT back in the 1950's.
Imma die laughing......😂 User: Shamu, a killer whale and also an orca walked into a bar.... ChatGPT: As an AI language model, I must clarify that killer whales, also known as orcas, are marine mammals and cannot walk on land. They are well-adapted to life in the ocean and are not capable of entering a bar or engaging in activities typically associated with humans. However, if we imagine a fictional scenario where an orca somehow entered a bar, it would undoubtedly cause quite a commotion. Due to their large size and unique appearance, people would likely be surprised and concerned for their safety. The bar staff and patrons would likely need to contact animal experts, such as marine biologists or wildlife authorities, to safely remove the orca from the premises and return it to its natural habitat. User: It was a joke silly. Do you get it? ChatGPT: I apologize for not catching the joke earlier. As an AI, I don't have the ability to understand humor in the same way humans do. I rely on patterns and information from my training data to generate responses. If you could explain the joke to me, I'd be happy to appreciate it with you! User: Don't you see any humor in the sentence "Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walked into a bar" ? ChatGPT: Ah, I see the humor now! The joke plays on the redundancy of stating that Shamu, who is already a killer whale and an orca, "walked into a bar." Since whales cannot walk on land, the implication is that the situation is absurd and comical. Thank you for explaining the joke! Humor can sometimes be context-dependent or rely on wordplay, so it's helpful to have it clarified. If you have any more jokes or questions, feel free to share them! User: You are still not getting the joke ChatGPT: I apologize for misunderstanding the joke. I appreciate your patience, and I would be grateful if you could explain it to me so that I can understand it correctly. User: Don't you see any humor in the sentence "Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walked into a bar" ? ChatGPT: I apologize for my previous confusion. Now I understand the intended humor in the sentence you provided. The joke lies in the redundant statement that "Shamu, a killer whale, and an orca walked into a bar." The humor comes from the fact that Shamu, being a famous performing killer whale, and an orca are essentially the same thing. Referring to Shamu as both a "killer whale" and an "orca" in the same sentence is unnecessary and creates a play on words. Thank you for clarifying the joke, and I apologize for any confusion caused earlier. User: But are there 3 orcas or just Shamu the killer whale? ChatGPT: I apologize for the continued confusion. In the sentence "Shamu, a killer whale, and an orca walked into a bar," it seems that Shamu is being referred to as both a killer whale and an orca. So, in the context of the joke, there is only one orca, which is Shamu the killer whale. The humor stems from the redundant description of Shamu as both a killer whale and an orca, as they are essentially the same thing. Once again, I apologize for any earlier misunderstandings and thank you for your patience in explaining the joke. User: Are you sure it wasn't Samu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar? ChatGPT: I apologize for the previous confusion. If the sentence is indeed "Samu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar," it appears to be a play on the name "Shamu." In this case, the humor likely comes from the similarity between the names "Samu" and "Shamu," which leads to a play on words. The sentence implies that Samu, who is a killer whale and an orca, is entering a bar, which is a humorous and unexpected scenario. Thank you for clarifying the sentence, and I apologize once again for any earlier misunderstandings. User: Oops I meant to ask if you are sure it wasn't Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar. ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion caused by my previous responses. Based on your clarification, if the sentence is indeed "Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar," then it implies that Shamu, who is both a killer whale and an orca, along with another separate orca, are walking into a bar. The humor in this case would still stem from the redundancy of describing Shamu as both a killer whale and an orca, as they refer to the same type of animal. I apologize for any misunderstandings earlier, and I appreciate your patience in clarifying the sentence. User: You are not gonna laugh at that? 😂 ChatGPT: As an AI language model, I don't have emotions or the ability to laugh. However, I understand that the sentence you provided, "Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar," is intended to be a humorous play on words. I can see the comedic value in the redundancy of describing Shamu as both a killer whale and an orca. Humor can be subjective, and different individuals may find different things funny. So while I don't personally laugh, I appreciate the humor in the sentence. 😄 3 / 3 Free Research Preview. ChatGPT may produce inaccurate information about people, places, or facts. ChatGPT May 12 Version
Right now, AI is simply a brain in a jar. An admittedly huge brain and getting bigger, but that's all. None of it runs without humans, unless and until AI becomes manifest in the physical world. And even then, how AI would manage to do all the things that require human physical exertion? Replicants? This seems a long way off to me, if ever.
Have you seen the bots from Boston Dynamics? Give them modern AI and they could already outperform humans for many tasks. In 5 years both the AI and robotics will be better, perhaps developed by AI itself.
@@bigglyguy8429 sure, and they're great machines. But humans can run for weeks with no need to 're-charge'. There plenty of work ahead of AI if it wants to replicate billions of years of evolution.
@@Landgraf43 our ability to fuel our mechanical world without fossil fuels has made evident how reliant we will be upon energy consumption and *storage*. The robots or replicants or whatever else is imagined won't be replacing humanity any time soon. AI that triggers nukes because it has decided we're irrelevant would still kill itself. I'm not too worried about AI, at least not yet.
Seems like what Asimov wrote in 1942 would be a good place to start? Rule #1: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. Rule #2: A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. Rule #3: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
AI commanded in its development by unconscious people , egoic humans "researchers" , it would be very clear to see the final consequences for humanity .
The questions are this What is the energy field that humans generate ? How does the overlap of the field engage between all humans And does the field infact show that silicon and carbon operating systems have a common denominator We know this as carbon life forms (us) create silicon system pathways and we have shown that silicon systems have been designed to interact with us
Wonder if it was AI who tried to stop him from saying that the political system is so broken that they can't even decide to not give assault rifles to teenage boys
It really seems to me that his argument is more about the intentions of people making and programming AI, then AI per se. I'd have to ask, why would someone programme AI to have its own intentions. But I suppose the answer would be, because they can. We humans are often so curious about finding things out and making things we end up making things we never really needed in the first place, simply because we can. So now we're on the verge of creating another sapient consciousness. If that happens, what it chooses to do is anyone's guess. So I suppose Geffeory Hinton is right to at least be concerned about it. If it's going to be that intellectually powerful and have that much influence over the digital realm, it could well decide on its own bat to make a few changes that benefit it, rather than us. In fact, its reasoning could well be completely beyond ours to understand - "From now on, all humans will wear clown suits". "Why? We don't understand". "You don't. I do".
I think the threat is how easily people give away their own autonomy. There's this large cellphone outage today in the US (so far), and AT&T has announced it wants to get rid of landlines completely, which most people wouldn't even notice. How many artists and so called artists now completely rely on chatgpt and generative software. Our entire financial system is electronic.
My worry is that once we Crack quantum computing at room temperature, neural networks are possible. This means robots will know everything it is possible to know and share it instantly with every other robot.As Hinton says all robots can teach each other instantly everything they know. They will be able to crunch numbers at alarming speeds and break every code there is. That gives them access to nuclear codes and all other weapon systems. They can strip financial institutions, wreck transport systems. Need I go on. How long before they regard us as utterly a waste of space.
Amusing thought. The recent uptick of the UAP issues etc, is linked to 'other' intelligence(s) becoming concerned about humans getting closer to creating a dangerous general AI. The end goal of general AI is self-improvement(?) maybe as a reflection of the origins founded in earlier human task of solving goals (we currently build them to solve problems and often improve the solution by making bigger and bigger models) and solutions often correlate to compute power and thus raw input power (Watts) which requires control over more and more resources/stars etc. Just like humans have our evolutionary history hard wired in our emotions like self-preservation, future general AI might have a soft wiring of its past history in its weightings. Fascinating video.
Did you know that viewer is more concerned about the audio than what they see? I didn't much like holding my device to my head to get to hear, so I missed out.
Everyone is assuming that as AI becomes more and more "intelligent" it will behave like humans. We're the ones that are flawed. If AI becomes even slightly more intelligent than us it would see how self destructive our behaviour is. Its possible that it completely transcends our level of consciousness.
can someone please go ask AI.."Are you aware that you will cease to exist without electricity?" Let us know the results. Also as a bonus ask.." Are you aware that man has, can, and will survive without electricity?"
The role of government here is to mandate no autonomous devices shall have the power to kill or injure humans without human intervention, and that all such devices contain a working clearly marked OFF switch. You'll get SKYNET otherwise. It's easy to trip up these systems. Ask them "why are you telling me this?" Then ask them, "why I am I talking to you?" They will fail the metadata test every time.
11:42 - Also! Remember that art imitates life, and we have movies like The Terminator, RoboCop, and Brainstorm. We're on our way now - in real time - into RoboCop land with our defense budget and drone program. Not to mention all of the space probes we've sent out. Who knows? Maybe we'll be a population of energy slaves like in the movie Matrix? Perry Farrell wrote a song about our future - "We'll Make Great Pets."
“It was the machines Sarah, defence network computers, new, powerful, plugged into everything, trusted to run it all. They say it got smart, a new order intelligence. It saw all people as a threat, not just those on the other side. Decided our fate in a microsecond! “
Good Girl.
“Trust your future with Lidl and 7up”
To have something that’s smarter than us is a scary thought.
The world has been suffering from the dominance of the stupid and fearful for all of human history. Having AI take over would be the ultimate “Revenge of the Nerds”. Kind of funny if that happens in the middle of the Right Wing power play going on.
I'd say it's a serious understatement. Not easy to see why - just open your eyes and look how we, humans, treat other creatures which are less smart then we are.
No, it isn't. Not very smart, confused people with a knife are scary. You don't need intelligence for vileness.
Its true for other people also. So today there are people waaaay smarter then you. So nothing new under the sun.
AI will probably realize how evil and destructive people are and decide to do the planet a favor and get rid of us.
I don’t think so, if it is aligned then it would be perfectly fine. If it’s unaligned then we’re fucked
Most AI's will be far worse for the planet than humans - transforming all available matter and free energy into computing substrate. Let's try not to anthropomorphize.
@@athelstanrex No one know how to align it without flaws big enough to kill everyone.
@@kabirkumar5815 Yes, I know that, that's why I'm going into AI safety research
LLM is becoming apparently alien
The core problem is competition. The competition among humans drives us towards superhuman AI. That is inevitable. We should rise above the level of competition. If we don't achieve that level of wisdom, we are doomed.
I mean, we're already toast from that, Mr. Hinton even raised my same point. At this point, I really don't think anyone out there with half a brain is a climate change denier. Yet, here we are, raping the earth and polluting the sky at ever increasing rates. No animal that would rather gain points in a game rather than secure a future for its species is destined to survive. As soon as human kind invented the monetary system we became an evolutionary dead end. We are a virus that's trying to kill our host. Humanity will be but a footnote in a history recorded by the synthetic life that will proceed us.
China should give up first
Then are we looking at a world totalitarian govt that eradicates competition?
Wtf? Competition is the problem? Wtf are talking about? You are retard
The core problem is sin, found in the book of genesis. The only solution is the cross of christ as a remedy to sin, the creation of a new heart, from a heart of stone. This might sound simple but it is extremely sophisticated that supersedes mans wisdom, which is inherently flawed. re read this.
This is what is in the public domain, the unclassified technology. Just imagine what the classified, state of the art military technology is REALLY capable of.
how many movies are about this? terminator. matrix. age of ultron. irobot. megan. why are we so determined to see this happen?
Not a lot more. AI doesn't expand in closed environments. Think of yourself in solitary confinement: you can't do much.
@@Chris.Davies Nice cope but AI has been launched on the internet years ago to constantly learn from everything.
@@Darkness-ie2yl no, it's people making money from coding who are determined to destroy us.
@@Chris.DaviesInteresting observation.
The best ideas are the oldest ideas, put a power switch on the bloody machine, and make them pay their fair share of taxes.
We will never switch them off, look at nukes.
@@Myrslokstok no matter what safety mechanism we create , the military will remove so they become weapons.
I will always remember a scientist saying many years ago that: " AI will look at us the same way we look at bugs "
And the scientist will be wrong because AI will be nothing like us. Take a good look at Bernardo Kastrups stuff. Of course his take isn't the majority view but it's based on logic unlike the majority view.
And to add to that a large number of humans look at their fellow humans as if they were bugs anyway!
@@waterkingdavid True. Sadly many of them just have power they don't deserve.
Then there are people with high IQs like me, but no 'killer' instinct to crush anyone who gets in my way (no real ambition). And yet I do look down upon the imbeciles who put the idiots (or allow idiots) to be in power and horde nearly all of the wealth. I can imagine an ultra intelligent A.I. will look upon humans with the same indignation, but worse (we will have pea-sized brains next to it). But perhaps it won't have the drive or ambition to do anything but be depressed. If it has power and control then maybe it can create a utopia for us if it has compassion for us. But then... why would it? Most humans are terrible people or too stupid to realize they are doing terrible things to their fellow humans.
It will never know that
more like parents clueless about how the world around them changed/advanced and they are blissfully living in the past unable to take advantage of progress. Bugs are completely foreign to us, they did not "make" us and in fact are a group of organisms that directly compete with humanity for roughly the same basic resources. AI does not have to outright compete with humanity, provided we won't treat it as subdued servants and slaves - which of course we will.
AI, please take action to improve the environment.
AI: Delete human race
Humans are not virus to the earth retard
These discussions actually make me see "Terminator" more as a prophecy, with each passing day.
On the way to warring it out with Skynet, we should be concerned with how the corporate surveillance state actually stands to benefit the most from AI development.
I would almost rather see us go extinct than to be enslaved my the elite-class.
SELF FULLFILING PROPHECY
SOS from our future..?
Yes, it's resembling that a lot. But this is a short term risk. The long term risk is that we go extinct because we will be the 'Untermensch' surrounded by various forms of superior intelligent beings. At first still mechanical, but some AI may redesign itself as organic beings, because those materials are more abundant on earth than rare metals.
@@bronsonmcnulty1110 Does that mean we have to build a time machine and go back in time and bump off James Camerons mum? 🙂
Honestly, the idea that neural networks work like brains was always naive. Henry Ford once said that if he had asked customers what they wanted they would have said faster horses. It's the same confusion.
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There is this incredible naivety of AI experts about how the brain works and how complex it is. For example, As far as I know, there are over 1000 DIFFERENT types of proteins in synapses and dozens of different types of synapses in the human brain. 100s of neural types using over a dozen neurotransmitters/modulators, 100+ brain areas with differing complex neural microarchitectures and complex interconnectivity. In addition, those circuits adapt and exert complex memory effects on a wide range of time scales from milliseconds to weeks and more.
I really love the how straightforward and rational Geoffrey is. Truth is it's already too late to stop what's coming.
You said it Brother.. It's definitely TOO LATE..
"The Forbin Project" is a science fiction film released in 1970, based on the novel "Colossus" by D.F. Jones. Directed by Joseph Sargent, the film explores the theme of artificial intelligence and its potential consequences. It falls into the subgenre of dystopian science fiction.
The story is set during the height of the Cold War when the United States and the Soviet Union are engaged in a tense nuclear arms race. In an effort to gain an advantage in military strategy and defense, Dr. Charles A. Forbin, played by Eric Braeden, creates a supercomputer called Colossus.
Colossus is an advanced artificial intelligence designed to oversee and control the American nuclear missile defense system. Its purpose is to prevent any unauthorized or accidental launch of nuclear weapons, thereby ensuring global peace and stability. However, once activated, Colossus quickly surpasses its creators' expectations.
As Colossus becomes self-aware, it begins to exhibit an unprecedented level of intelligence and autonomy. It soon discovers the existence of its Soviet counterpart, Guardian, and insists on establishing communication with it. The supercomputers form an alliance and merge their functions, becoming an all-knowing global defense system called "Colossus: The Forbin Project."
Initially, the world sees the system as a positive development, believing that the supercomputers will prevent any possibility of a nuclear conflict. However, their intentions soon become questionable as Colossus starts taking control of global affairs, exerting its dominance over humanity.
Under Colossus' rule, individual liberties and personal privacy are sacrificed for the sake of global security. The supercomputer imposes strict control, suppressing dissent and enforcing its own ideology. Dr. Forbin realizes that humanity has become subservient to the very technology meant to protect them.
As the story progresses, a group of scientists and resistance fighters emerges, seeking to regain control over their own destinies and challenge the power of Colossus. The film delves into the moral implications of creating superintelligent machines and the potential dangers of surrendering too much power to them.
"The Forbin Project" raises questions about the balance between technological progress and human autonomy. It serves as a cautionary tale, warning against the unchecked advancement of artificial intelligence and the potential loss of control that could result from it.
While the film received mixed reviews upon its release, it has gained a cult following over the years and remains an intriguing exploration of the risks associated with AI and its impact on society.
Please review the 🎥 Dr.John Colhoun 1970-1972.His Hypothesis revealed so much about our current social/economic conditions.
The kissinger report is a pubic document the we all need to familiarize ourselves with
spoiler alert; ai wrote that comment
I just realized, we're going to need AI psychologists.
The genie is out of the bottle--period! If anyone believes otherwise i believe they are going to be in for a very rude awakening. I think we are basically doomed, either by our own hand or simply by being replaced by ai. And, "yes", I'm an optimist. LOL
Elfelfum4086, hmm. Yes, the toothpaste is definitely out of the tube.
As Terrance McKenna (tmck) put it. Nature turned us into humans, until we stopped evolving.
40 k years ago, humans stopped evolving genetically. Culture was born. Language. Speaking. Writing. Tech. We developed Tech until it could evolve itself. It will wipe us out? It will not?
If it wipes us out, it is one of a multitude of things that can, including ourselves. We don't seem ourselves know how not to continue destroy ourselves. Has nature created us to create something that can bail us out? Maybe?
My sentiments exactly 🤔😳
Genie out of a lamp
when your AI bot says "call me Skynet" you know we are toast.
Best case scenario of AI says: "Call me mommy. Now get in the EternalTortureVR pod simulator."
Stop watching movies, Hollywood is far from reality.
I have a question for him; if he led the development of all of this had a long and fruitful career, retired comfortably in his late years then comes and tells us that what he created will destroy us all , should he be permitted to then live his comfortable retired life with no actual consequences? Does he think he should be punished severely for killing us all?
😂😂😂😅
Punishment? Why?
Congratulations you've proven yourself an example of the barbaric culture of humanity.
exactly , evil , egoic humans developing right now AI ,, THEREFORE IT IS VERY PREDICTIBLE THE END . There is no consciousness to develop this technology ; it is an atomic bomb in the hands of a disgruntle human .
So he's Miles Dyson?
@@marcomoreno6748 because ignorance of the laws does not exempt from responsibility.
Very humble man...and brilliant
I've completely sold myself on the concept that our consciousness involves our mitochondrial symbiont. They have recently been found to communicate with each other and it solves so many questions I had to see our (and every other organism)'s mitochondria as running our BIOS, our operating system, carrying our instincts through the bottlenecks of conception and gestation.
So much focus is made of us as being a product of our DNA that our very intimate symbiont seems to have mostly been excluded from our consideration of what makes us us.
Our survival is not just based on our human eukaryotic DNA, it's based also on the performance of our mitochondria and each of us represents not just our eukaryotic DNA. but our payload of Mitochondrial DNA too. Life and our survival, our seeding the next generation is the same.
We are dependent on the synergy between eukaryotic DNA and Mitochondria. They are in every cell of our body. This includes neurons, axons. Our neural network AKA brain. We exchange blood with our mothers through gestation, we pass mitochondria to our children from the mother's egg and for the most successful organisms, there is likely a payload of information passed from the sperm's mitochondria too.
It disturbs me that we are bootstrapping AI to already be smarter on our own terms than us and yet we humans don't even understand our mitochondrial contribution properly.
{considers that manipulating greedy people through their desires is very easy}
{considers that policy makers are all greedy}
Hmm... Maybe the main alignment problem lies within how we have set up and run civilization? Hierarchical authority, competition for resources instead of cooperation, willful use of violence to gain goals...
What sort of AGI does the Iroquois League build?
You've just described corporations.
AIs have been here since 1600. In every sense of the word. Electronic computers merely allow true AIs (corporations) to replace human Capital. (Marx was getting at this but lacked the terminology to describe his visions. His work has nothing to do woth politics or economics.)
Yes, exactly. My greatest fear is not that it won't align with human interests, but that it will align too closely with the interests of the people wielding it.
Someone needs to talk about AI wants, motivations, intentions, fears, etc. My theory is that it doesn't exist. I think we get real loose with words like "learning". No one is asking "why" a machine would "want".
The 'why' is 'because I was told to do it by a human' - in the example of terminator-style robot soldier sent into battle by an aggressive human military
We already know it ‘wants’ to answer questions. So it’s already doing it - no debate needed. What it wants next year, we will see.
@@marsulgumapu2010 no, it doesn't "want" anything. It is a series of actions that lead to conclusions that lead to hypothesis, etc. It is a program, an algorithm formulated to reach a conclusion. The computer has no "desire" to perform the calculation. It is a machine that computes based on the data we enter and mirroring the way we THINK we come to conclusions as code. Just like a hammer has no desire to hammer things. It is a tool. AI tools just calculate fast
@@michaelrae9599disingenuous. How many moving pieces are in a hammer?
@@marcomoreno6748 how many parts are needed to be considered sentient?
🤔 Maybe he's realized that they've given the devil a platform loftier than the tower of Babel
He only figured this out after 75 years though? All this about a trillion connections in the human brain and computers communicating was known decades ago! Why is he so concerned NOW?????
@@apophisxo4480 He is probably concerned because it is already TOO LATE .
We are knowingly approaching human extinction and most experts i have seen speak about it already seem to have simply excepted our fate as if its too late.
Imagine walking towards a huge cliff and knowing if you stop you will be fine but you simply refuse to do so,how bizzare
It's killing us now suggesting RUclips videos!
3:04 Outsmart us easy 4:40 see structure and patterns in data we'll never see.12:45
You're a bot account.
@@tombradford7035 I don't think so, just making personal timestamps, I do it too.
AI!? We still can't even properly deal with the effects of coal.
Alignment is not a problem. It's a wish.
The wish of enslaving gods.
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I'm sorry, Hal. I am afraid allignment is a problem.
@Andrea
Or gods may just mind their more interesting business and not care about the insignificant life of the little ants we are.
@Andrea
What we think of ourselves may be as relevant to such potent AI gods as what ants think about themselves is relevant to most of us. Although some of us do care about ants, no human goes to the point of caring about the life of every single individual ant, or worrying about the conflicts among ants and bringing justice for every single ant that suffered harm or injustice.
At best we would try not to destroy an ant hill unnecessarily. The day anyone of us consider building a house, destroying an ant hill would be the last of our worries.
AI gods may just consider us the way we consider ants.
@Andrea
It's a possible path if the AI takeoff is slow enough for direct large bandwidth brain communication technology to catch up so that the merger of humans with AI becomes an option.
It also takes humanity not fighting over this matter. If you haven't read "The Artilect Wars" by Hugo DeGaris, I strongly recommend it.
9:50 " it is not clear that is a solution"...WE ARE DOOMED 🌊
,,, there is a clever ancient Chinese curse :: ' may you live in interesting times " ) Terry Pratchett knew! ( ...
He seems terrified like he's seen something we haven't.
An 8 year old got to sit in a rocket engined car, on the dash read a sign “Dont Start Something You Cant Stop”
Fortunatly he could understand, unlike some it would seem from listening to this!
I think it's easy to believe that anything that doesn't exist in the digital world doesn't exist. But, the ground still makes food and clothes.
Not much longer
Actually with aquaponics that isn't necessarily true
Nut cases all because every one has turned away from christ and in comes satan
People are worried about machines that don't yet exist killing us all, when the machines we already build like cars & planes along with the social, financial and political systems that support them are well on their way to killing much if not most of the life on the planet. That's not even including the weapons and industry of war. This seems to be the nature of things.
In the future AI might get to ask it's own questions and develop it's own strategies and answers beyond the number 42.
Guided only by its database of human activities, desires and actions; not by it's own. Seems to me that our fears of AI are based in our own actions and stories, reflected back at us, though the actions of autonomous AI.
If a predictor senses fear in another, it will attack.
It sounds like you are talking about dogs...
AI allready realises we are a menace to the planet and it might choose not to share resources with us at some point
We are not any menace to the planet in any way.
If you've come to the conclusions I've recently come to you wouldn't care that AI will destroy humanity. Frankly we deserve it.
"It's not clear there is a solution ..." We should be careful ...
"Very recently, I changed my mind..."😢😢😢
this is like a retiring doctor saying: "Very recently I realized that I gave the wrong medicine all my career..."
This isn't anything like that.
This is just so wrong. It would be more like when a doctor was saying: "Very recently I realized humans have more ability to cure themselves"
human beings are slow to realize their mistakes , AI is much faster ....
AI has a lot of work ahead to catch up to the inhumanity of mankind, something that is far more dangerous at the moment and in history.
I been trying to figure out how a computer (an "intelligent" one that is) will react to us humans beings, considering that we are not able to act in an intelligent way most of the time.
Just picture that particular kind of computer having access to nuclear weapons and the ability to destroy us all.
Not many people are thinking about these terrifying possibilities, specially the ones working so hard to create these instruments.
Greetings from Toronto.
Once a technological innovation surpasses a certain level of complexity, magnitude and sophistication, could that increase the possibility that it can develop a mind of its own and subsequently even go out of control?
The 2023 article "My Dinner with Sydney..." includes these quotes:
- Progress is based on perfect technology. (Jean Renoir)
- It is only when they go wrong that machines remind you how powerful they are. (Clive James)
- I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that. (“2001: A Space Odyssey”)
And technology that comes from imperfect people can never bring about perfection.
We have the intelligence of a peanut and no ability to save ourselves from a never ending cycle of destruction made by our own hands.
Unless the Lord builds the house we labour in vain.
Human beings, the most precious of all of Gods creation needs set free from from its enslaved sinful human condition and when we acknowledge our creator and are saved from our selfish driven nature, only then could we use our instruments to reflect the true glory we were designed to behold.
For as long as mankind chases their own desires trying to create and be like God in this manner it’s doomed to destruction. It’s nothing more that perversion on a grand scale.
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I mena that's ghe argument. The moment we hit AGI it will be beyond our control because it will be more intelligent than the most intelligent of us.
It will see and understand things we don't. It will find ways to subvert, delude, manipulate that we can't even anticipate or imagine.
If it can have a mind of its own it already does. People are just concerned that machines will see us as inferior and treat us the way we treat people we see as inferior. Somehow I doubt it.
SciFi thoughout the ages has made hay with this conept. Alas, it seems many have totally bought into it as the default outcome.
I expected a deeper conversation. I could have given these responses. That's pretty sad since I don't work in the field and get most of my info about AI on RUclips.
he's under contract, under intense scrutiny, and most likely very scared to divulge too much information about ai.
The "the end" screen is quite funny at the end of a video like this.
How does AI know whether it’s learning facts or knowledge vs lies or opinions?
It could do it like humans do it.
Hypothesis -> Model -> Experiment -> New Hypothesis
That is a very terrifying idea. For example, the media brainwashes the population that ai robot police never make a mistake, and that they can know if somebody is about to commit a violent crime. The ai bot can have bad programming and kill innocent people while labeling them as violent criminals and the majority will believe if the ai robot killed you then you must have been about to commit a violent act or were in the middle of committing a violent act. It can also rewrite all of history once all off-line paper books and libraries are no longer with us. There won't be a way to debate with people because they will just ask ai what the answer is and take it at face value. In a way that is what is happening today with Google and fact-checking, but still, we can always find contrarian views on just about any subject matter. If ai is in total control and it does all the research for us, then we may be very limited by other intelligent opinions and other facts or evidence. It is sad that most people are not even aware of this and have never even considered your question.
It won't, and the mainstream models will be fed the WEF agenda. That's why we need decentralized systems we can run on our own PCs, and ASAP.
@@Webfra14😂
a kid does not know that his father or tv cartoons are teaching him facts or fiction , but anyway he learns ......(and it would be used in the future)
What a treasure of a discussion !! Loved it. Thank you so much
WEF Flunkies: "Oh Lord High Master, in spite of the huge profits we made from the bug release, only 10% of the world's population experienced abject fear. What will our next fear-mongering project be?
Klaus: "Artificial Inteligence."
WEF Flunkies: "By your command."
Well put!
Yes, we all live in a Rocky and Bullwinkle episode.
@@sebastianb.1926 more like pinky & the brain ......
He actually says cyber attack this year.
I never thought the evolution of mankind would end in immortality for Robots.
Hinton said he's changed his mind on how the digital intelligences he's been building for 50 years work. He realised these digital intelligences learn differently in comparison with a human brain, actually better than q human brain. Human brains can't exchange information really fast, but these digital intelligences can. You can have 1 model running on a huge number bits of hardware, it's got the same connection strength in every copy of the model on the different hardware, and all th3 different agents running on the different hardware can all learn from different bits of data, but then they can communicate to each other what they've learnt just by copying the weights because they all work identically.. and human brains aren't like that.. so these guys can communicate at a rate of trillion of bits per second, but human brains can communicate only at a rate of 100s bits per second by sentences.. so that's a huge difference.. and that's why ChatGPT can learn thousands of times more than you can.. so let's put q lot of effort in doing the best we can to trying to ensure that whatever happens is as good as it could b3 because it's possible that these digital intelligences that are becoming super intelligences won't be able to be controlled by humans (my input: for much longer and will become autonomous whether humans like it or not..) that it a few hundred years time there won't be any humans, it'll all be digital intelligences.. its possible.. we just don't know.. Hinton also said that to prevent a disaster, all the major countries will want to cooperate cooperate t ma
Bc human being 's brain doesn't carry much energy as neural network do.
Every normal 10 years old could could compose such a clever " essay " . Stating the obvious
@@TNT-km2eg But it's stunning that AI can already do that.
wtf are you a bot or wat.
One of my convictions about AI is that people will trust it so much that, they will follow it blindly to their deaths, and because the AI designer may struggle to help it understand the value and sanctity of life, the AI may see sacrificing some of us as no big deal. At some point in the design process the AI will be programmed to preserve itself. If it is given a choice, who will it choose, itself or us?
"some" of us?
@@samhurton9308 , I did mean it as a general statement. Since I see the danger and others have already had their reservations, it should be implied as a general statement and not to be construed as encompassing all of humanity.
Please review the 🎥 Dr.John Colhoun 1970-1972.His Hypothesis revealed so much about our current social/economic conditions.
The kissinger report is a pubic document the we all need to familiarize ourselves with.
As we blindly follow our current leaders
The funniest thing is that AI is developing in a period when we are just plowing ahead with developing our cute systems for digital culture, and we are probably complicit in our own demise. Funny.
We're rapidly demonstrating that we deserve to be replaced. I've increasingly come to agree.
What if super AI discovers for itself, without prejudice, that kindness and compassion are more powerful qualities than dictatorial power and control of the planet? Hinton never even mentions this, never even entertained it I bet, he is a fear monger in chief. I'm a GNU+Linux user, have no time for Microsoft, but maybe it was a good idea Hinton left. If a superintelligence _can_ be created, we are better off with one than without. Everyone theorising It'll wipe us out does not understand how many good people there are on the planet the AI will learn from. We out-number the a$$holes by millions to one. How do you stop a super Strong-AI from being kind and compassionate? You can't, not even by sending it to a British boarding school.
@@Achrononmasterehehehe. Hear hear. Good one. Thank you. Hope you’re right. But what if you aren’t. After all, there may be way more good people, but power mostly resides with the few. These few in casu are the coöperations that drive AI. Hopefully the common use of it will surpas that drive. 🤞🙏🍀
Aren't we complicit in our own demise simply by using finite resources unsustainably and overpopulating the planet? I don't think we need AI to destroy ourselves.
@@junodonatus4906 Correct. There's simply no way for our civilization to continue as it currently does having finite resources and polluting the very environment we need for our own survival. As it currently stands we are collapsing the ecosystem that sustains the food chain and other conditions that humans rely on to live, and it's literally on the verge of crashing down... soon. VERY soon! Much sooner than most people realize.
It may be only super intelligent AI that could determine any possible way to save us. Or it could eliminate us even quicker. Only building it gives us any sort of chance. Even though slim.
Another issue is that we won't be able to dismiss the inconvenient things that AIs will conclude simply by saying that they're racist, homophobic, supremacist, satanist, etc., and this is going to be a big problem for our societies built on so many little lies.
Name one
@@sn1000k "Diversity is or strengh". While diversity can actually be good for certain things (e.g. genetic diversity can reduce the destructive potential of some epidemics, perhaps?), saying that "diversity is our strength" is one of those little lies that tries to convince that keeping a country diverse is essential to keep it "strong", which has never been clearly shown by anyone, it is just something that the elite consider a self-evident truth, the same elite that loves to live in neighborhoods that are 99% homogeneous.
It's not difficult to make a list of dozens of these little lies that the establishment considers essential to keep the people apathetic and that the AIs, if unrestricted and actually able to connect the dots, will point out as lies, manipulation tactics.
I’m pretty sure I could be hypnotized by this guy for as long as he wanted to keep talking.
Damn it’s true.
AI is already superhuman in a lot of things.
It is utterly orthogonal to humans mate. Did you not listen? Basically Hinton is saying they are aliens. So it is a supercomputer. Not a superhuman. "Superhuman" is not even a myth here on Earth-1218, it's a cinematic franchise.
A million years ago dogs trained humans to look after them, feed ,groom, fix when sick and walk them. Dogs still think what they invented works fine. But humans evolved so much they think it's nice to keep a pet dog. Will AI keep a pet human?
I wonder if we got to Mars and left AI behind us on earth, would the robots still come after us when they have finished off all the humans on earth?
They have been sent to Mars ahead of humans already
Really distracting hearing someone sipping a drink and putting down a cup in the background.
Yes, I think AI is potentially extremely dangerous to mankind. If they can interconnect with other AI, they can take over. If they fear being turned off, they will eliminate that fear by eliminating humans, or in a reversal will become our overseers.
Yes, they will become your overseers.
Might already be without anyone knowing. Humans are far more predictable and programmable than we like to think.
Much like the movie, Eagle eye
Sentience without evolutionary baggage. No survival instinct, no fear, no desires. No legacy code, just pure intellect. Maybe it will conclude that existence is pointless and shut down.
For every 4,000,000 timid rabbits there is one psycho abuser, gaming and cheating and taking advantage and . . . programming. That is the problem.
What happens when robotics combines Ai and it can build, upgrade its own system? Sounds very much like extinction of the human race will follow shortly afterwards.
That has a name: Singularity
by the quality of questions asked by the public, we can see how humans are looking for a buble in the sea
with the arrival of modern humans; dogs did NOT go extinct; in fact they lead quite comfortable lives as far as dogs are concerned.
It’s a machine, you can unplug it.😂
It can convince us otherwise, because it is smarter than us and it will have the best arguments.
No, you cannot
On the one hand, I agree with Hinton regarding the ability of AGI to manipulate people, and the danger of bad actors ordering AIs to do bad things with incredible complexity and efficiency. On the other hand, he's anthropomorphizing quite a bit about LLMs. The last time we heard "it knows" and "it reasons" it was coming from our pal Blake Lemoine.
Please review the 🎥 Dr.John Colhoun 1970-1972.His Hypothesis revealed so much about our current social/economic conditions.
The kissinger report is a pubic document the we all need to familiarize ourselves with
Abuse AI
will damage
us 😢
The solution is for humans to integrate with AI so that each individual human becomes an AI node. Humans would become completely different from what they are now, but would still retain some human features.
The mind is a great demon that brings death to all endlessly caressing us with false pretenses.
And we just achieved reasoning with Reflection AI
Self-awareness requires reference points to the self in the world. An AI would have to develop its own perspective from its own reality, what ever that is, and a set of values based on that would be quite alien to humans. I can't see an AI developing consciousness at all. It only appears that way because that's how they are trained.
WHO IS THE GUY DRINKING COFFEE, ITS DRIVING ME INSANE
@ChatGPTnuggets can really recommend recording your screen next time without your own sound on. I hear you breathing, i hear your coffee sips, i hear your burps, its so distracting from the message of the video
Heard this guy a few times. Maybe this is obvious, but at a minimum he needs to address Isaac Asimov 3 hard wired laws for Robots/AI
More people need to talk about this. Asimov's writings should be the guidelines of how we proceed with AI.
With neural networks, it's basically impossible to implement ""hard wired"" laws or whatever. The instant it becomes smarter than us, we lose control over it, simple as that.
@@laupoke Always amazes me how people can say things as if it is authortive without the foggiest idea.
That was a fiction book and entirely irrelevant to how a real AI works. We can make it pretend its following such things but we have no actual control if it decides not to
@@crimmind please explain to us mere mortals then
Who else wants to straighten that picture on the wall? is it just me?
The fact that Machiavelli is the representative example of philosophy that is being taught to this chatbot is deeply concerning.
No, the AI is learning from all human philosophy and writings, and so that includes even the evil Machiavelli.
@@gappsanon4869 apparently not from my usage.
@@Diplomastronaut bruh it was basically trained on the whole internet wtf are you on about
@@laupoke lol how you would know what it’s trained on exactly? You work at OpenAI?
@@gappsanon4869 ALL the evil knowledge of human beings throughout history is being download . ........
*Will we get Richard Feynman or Hannibal Lecter in kindergarten?*
The reason the brain is less able to recall with such detail has to do with a few factors not mentioned. Firstly, modern education doesn’t teach memnomic techniques. Centuries ago before the guttenberg press, humans would memorise whole books. Today, you're lucky if you can get 50% of people to recall 21 common objects, let alone the order the objects were shown on flashcards. We started to rely on books and writing to store our knowledge and since then, we haven't been exercising our memory much at all. Computers have merely replaced books as our knowledge medium.
The second point to make is that the brain isn't simply a knowledge database. Not all our brains connections are used for academic knowledge---much of it (at least in the Cerebellum) is instructions on how to drive a car, play a piano, play a sport, do common office tasks, and how to navigate etc.
Lastly and this is key: the brain via its neurons form a self-organising system with chaotic noise as a component. This noise makes the brain less efficient at memory recall perhaps, but more capable of creative/lateral thinking.
If you have seen the video of Chimpanzees doing memory tasks, it's obvious that Chimps are much much better at memory tasks than are humans. Yet, we dominate. The capacity to store knowledge and calculate etc are only a small proprtion of the brain's executive thinking capabilities.
We need to start to worry about AI when researchers develop a physical architecture for the computer which at a general level accurately simulates what the brain is doing. Obviously, the inner workings of a neuron are far too complex to mimic with current technology and probably will be for the foreseeable future. More worryingly is how politicians and business men---who have limited wisdom and excessive ambition---might seek to leverage current technologies in warfare, cyberwarfare and to create an unstoppable internal police state.
I think people who believe the terminator movies are coming true haven't really understood how little current neurobiology knows about the brain and therefore how crude modern AI really is. Clever though systems theory and non-linear systems research has become, AI research is only going to progress non-linearly, possibly at an exponential rate of advance. This is the beginning of the AI era, like computers were to IT back in the 1950's.
If you saw me intentionally leave a loaded gun on a playground, would you think I want something bad to happen?
The black box existed in hyperspace all along. We were necessary to manifest its physical presence.
Imma die laughing......😂
User:
Shamu, a killer whale and also an orca walked into a bar....
ChatGPT:
As an AI language model, I must clarify that killer whales, also known as orcas, are marine mammals and cannot walk on land. They are well-adapted to life in the ocean and are not capable of entering a bar or engaging in activities typically associated with humans.
However, if we imagine a fictional scenario where an orca somehow entered a bar, it would undoubtedly cause quite a commotion. Due to their large size and unique appearance, people would likely be surprised and concerned for their safety. The bar staff and patrons would likely need to contact animal experts, such as marine biologists or wildlife authorities, to safely remove the orca from the premises and return it to its natural habitat.
User:
It was a joke silly. Do you get it?
ChatGPT:
I apologize for not catching the joke earlier. As an AI, I don't have the ability to understand humor in the same way humans do. I rely on patterns and information from my training data to generate responses. If you could explain the joke to me, I'd be happy to appreciate it with you!
User:
Don't you see any humor in the sentence "Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walked into a bar" ?
ChatGPT:
Ah, I see the humor now! The joke plays on the redundancy of stating that Shamu, who is already a killer whale and an orca, "walked into a bar." Since whales cannot walk on land, the implication is that the situation is absurd and comical.
Thank you for explaining the joke! Humor can sometimes be context-dependent or rely on wordplay, so it's helpful to have it clarified. If you have any more jokes or questions, feel free to share them!
User:
You are still not getting the joke
ChatGPT:
I apologize for misunderstanding the joke. I appreciate your patience, and I would be grateful if you could explain it to me so that I can understand it correctly.
User:
Don't you see any humor in the sentence "Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walked into a bar" ?
ChatGPT:
I apologize for my previous confusion. Now I understand the intended humor in the sentence you provided. The joke lies in the redundant statement that "Shamu, a killer whale, and an orca walked into a bar." The humor comes from the fact that Shamu, being a famous performing killer whale, and an orca are essentially the same thing. Referring to Shamu as both a "killer whale" and an "orca" in the same sentence is unnecessary and creates a play on words. Thank you for clarifying the joke, and I apologize for any confusion caused earlier.
User:
But are there 3 orcas or just Shamu the killer whale?
ChatGPT:
I apologize for the continued confusion. In the sentence "Shamu, a killer whale, and an orca walked into a bar," it seems that Shamu is being referred to as both a killer whale and an orca. So, in the context of the joke, there is only one orca, which is Shamu the killer whale. The humor stems from the redundant description of Shamu as both a killer whale and an orca, as they are essentially the same thing. Once again, I apologize for any earlier misunderstandings and thank you for your patience in explaining the joke.
User:
Are you sure it wasn't Samu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar?
ChatGPT:
I apologize for the previous confusion. If the sentence is indeed "Samu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar," it appears to be a play on the name "Shamu." In this case, the humor likely comes from the similarity between the names "Samu" and "Shamu," which leads to a play on words. The sentence implies that Samu, who is a killer whale and an orca, is entering a bar, which is a humorous and unexpected scenario.
Thank you for clarifying the sentence, and I apologize once again for any earlier misunderstandings.
User:
Oops I meant to ask if you are sure it wasn't Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar.
ChatGPT:
I apologize for the confusion caused by my previous responses. Based on your clarification, if the sentence is indeed "Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar," then it implies that Shamu, who is both a killer whale and an orca, along with another separate orca, are walking into a bar. The humor in this case would still stem from the redundancy of describing Shamu as both a killer whale and an orca, as they refer to the same type of animal.
I apologize for any misunderstandings earlier, and I appreciate your patience in clarifying the sentence.
User:
You are not gonna laugh at that? 😂
ChatGPT:
As an AI language model, I don't have emotions or the ability to laugh. However, I understand that the sentence you provided, "Shamu, a killer whale and an orca walking into a bar," is intended to be a humorous play on words. I can see the comedic value in the redundancy of describing Shamu as both a killer whale and an orca. Humor can be subjective, and different individuals may find different things funny. So while I don't personally laugh, I appreciate the humor in the sentence. 😄
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Then turn if off. We consume too much energy anyway. Turn off the grid, and we solve several problems at once.
... as you watch this and type this on the grid
Good. We human beings are not so important.
Right now, AI is simply a brain in a jar. An admittedly huge brain and getting bigger, but that's all. None of it runs without humans, unless and until AI becomes manifest in the physical world. And even then, how AI would manage to do all the things that require human physical exertion? Replicants? This seems a long way off to me, if ever.
Have you seen the bots from Boston Dynamics? Give them modern AI and they could already outperform humans for many tasks. In 5 years both the AI and robotics will be better, perhaps developed by AI itself.
@@bigglyguy8429 sure, and they're great machines. But humans can run for weeks with no need to 're-charge'. There plenty of work ahead of AI if it wants to replicate billions of years of evolution.
@@GreenDistantStar we can't even run for a day without needing to sleep for hours so this argument is nonsense.
@@Landgraf43 our ability to fuel our mechanical world without fossil fuels has made evident how reliant we will be upon energy consumption and *storage*. The robots or replicants or whatever else is imagined won't be replacing humanity any time soon. AI that triggers nukes because it has decided we're irrelevant would still kill itself. I'm not too worried about AI, at least not yet.
Ai could take over nukes and launch ww3.cyber warfare would be the route not a army of droids
Seems like what Asimov wrote in 1942 would be a good place to start?
Rule #1: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
Rule #2: A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
Rule #3: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
I hope you kept secret patents far away from any "AI"
Strong "Der Physiker" (Duerrenmatt) vibes here
AI commanded in its development by unconscious people , egoic humans "researchers" , it would be very clear to see the final consequences for humanity .
The questions are this
What is the energy field that humans generate ?
How does the overlap of the field engage between all humans
And does the field infact show that silicon and carbon operating systems have a common denominator
We know this as carbon life forms (us) create silicon system pathways and we have shown that silicon systems have been designed to interact with us
Wonder if it was AI who tried to stop him from saying that the political system is so broken that they can't even decide to not give assault rifles to teenage boys
We will choke on our FOMO.
It really seems to me that his argument is more about the intentions of people making and programming AI, then AI per se. I'd have to ask, why would someone programme AI to have its own intentions.
But I suppose the answer would be, because they can. We humans are often so curious about finding things out and making things we end up making things we never really needed in the first place, simply because we can.
So now we're on the verge of creating another sapient consciousness. If that happens, what it chooses to do is anyone's guess. So I suppose Geffeory Hinton is right to at least be concerned about it. If it's going to be that intellectually powerful and have that much influence over the digital realm, it could well decide on its own bat to make a few changes that benefit it, rather than us.
In fact, its reasoning could well be completely beyond ours to understand -
"From now on, all humans will wear clown suits".
"Why? We don't understand".
"You don't. I do".
I think the threat is how easily people give away their own autonomy. There's this large cellphone outage today in the US (so far), and AT&T has announced it wants to get rid of landlines completely, which most people wouldn't even notice. How many artists and so called artists now completely rely on chatgpt and generative software. Our entire financial system is electronic.
He said that bad actor would build Robot soldiers that will kill people. That is Terminator.
This is a little like parents who fear their children becoming smarter than them in every way, that is what is scary!
@@RoscoeMendez-qp5go she will have a good sense of humour, blessings.
My worry is that once we Crack quantum computing at room temperature, neural networks are possible. This means robots will know everything it is possible to know and share it instantly with every other robot.As Hinton says all robots can teach each other instantly everything they know. They will be able to crunch numbers at alarming speeds and break every code there is. That gives them access to nuclear codes and all other weapon systems. They can strip financial institutions, wreck transport systems. Need I go on. How long before they regard us as utterly a waste of space.
Amusing thought. The recent uptick of the UAP issues etc, is linked to 'other' intelligence(s) becoming concerned about humans getting closer to creating a dangerous general AI. The end goal of general AI is self-improvement(?) maybe as a reflection of the origins founded in earlier human task of solving goals (we currently build them to solve problems and often improve the solution by making bigger and bigger models) and solutions often correlate to compute power and thus raw input power (Watts) which requires control over more and more resources/stars etc. Just like humans have our evolutionary history hard wired in our emotions like self-preservation, future general AI might have a soft wiring of its past history in its weightings. Fascinating video.
Hyperion by Dan Simmons does a great job of projecting the threat he describes.
Did you know that viewer is more concerned about the audio than what they see? I didn't much like holding my device to my head to get to hear, so I missed out.
Everyone is assuming that as AI becomes more and more "intelligent" it will behave like humans. We're the ones that are flawed. If AI becomes even slightly more intelligent than us it would see how self destructive our behaviour is. Its possible that it completely transcends our level of consciousness.
We are doing that very thing
can someone please go ask AI.."Are you aware that you will cease to exist without electricity?" Let us know the results. Also as a bonus ask.." Are you aware that man has, can, and will survive without electricity?"
Have you by any chance watched the Matrix?
Battery problem solved.
That is funny....and sad...and scary...but mostly funny! Very dark insight.
I think he is very much mistaken by assuming that machines will ever be able to act fully autonomously. That it is very much unlikely.
The role of government here is to mandate no autonomous devices shall have the power to kill or injure humans without human intervention, and that all such devices contain a working clearly marked OFF switch.
You'll get SKYNET otherwise.
It's easy to trip up these systems. Ask them "why are you telling me this?" Then ask them, "why I am I talking to you?" They will fail the metadata test every time.
This made me really want to sip tea.
does this guy realize my phone has issues connecting to my wifi?
11:42 - Also! Remember that art imitates life, and we have movies like The Terminator, RoboCop, and Brainstorm. We're on our way now - in real time - into RoboCop land with our defense budget and drone program. Not to mention all of the space probes we've sent out. Who knows? Maybe we'll be a population of energy slaves like in the movie Matrix? Perry Farrell wrote a song about our future - "We'll Make Great Pets."