E168: Can Google save itself? Abolish HR, AI takes over Customer Support, Reddit IPO teardown
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- (0:00) Bestie intros! Jato Caelin
(1:36) Groq update!: The key metric developer platforms should care about
(5:55) Google's make or break moment: Should Sundar be fired, AI safety team's power, RIF potential, stock pressure, and more
(29:17) How bloated HR departments slow down companies
(40:15) Google's licensing deals: Is this TAC 2.0? How can Reddit capitalize on its data?
(53:50) Klarna's huge AI innovation: AI disruption, open-source benefits, a new class of billion-dollar startups
(1:13:06) Reddit S-1 breakdown
(1:22:52) The Apple Car is dead: Apple cancels Project Titan
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It's officially the weekend
love that we've become a demarcation point for you!
Its training time 🏋️♀️!
Can definitely relate to that
👌
Best discussion on HR and DEI. Have seen companies completely forget about their core business and instead got hijacked by HR and DEI to the point of destruction. Mind boggling stupidity.
*Disney has entered the chat
The only option should be to hire the best man for the job ...
Trust me when I tell you that DEI drives professionals in HR crazy. We want to focus on supporting the business and DEI does nothing other than muddy the waters and take focus off of core business initiatives. DEI is separate from core HR and we have been hijacked too.
^woke mind virus
Disney. Yahoo. Many many more
God, having your podcast and the chance to listen to you talking for free is a bless. Thank you guys, from Italy!
Greece is here too!😊
I can’t help but smirk in delight every time RUclips recommends a new episode of the all in podcast every week
Say something meaningful, don't comment like you just had a weekend donut
If only Elon sued Open AI yesterday, would love to hear the boys take.
Legendary
Yeah, was hoping to hear something about that
Elon Musk should have legal access to all code .... It appears that he is currently being denied access to some of the code Referred to as Q Star
Isn't Q* the great white API?
It’s very obvious dude… that the pod will unanimously declare that openAI should be handed over to Elon 😂😂😂… there is no special take in that .. they are heavily invested in Elons companies
The problem with Gemini isn't that it offends people, there are an endless number of people who will be offended over everything under the sun. The issue is that it is INCORRECT!
Gemini is acting like blue haired Karen because it's parents are blue haired Karen's 🤷🏿♀️
Correct. 99% of the folks pointing this stuff out arent offended, they are just aware.
To be fair, the issue isn't that it's incorrect, the issue is WHY it's incorrect.
I left my previous job because the HR department got too powerful
Is handing more power to these vultures so they can fire you easier the solution?
Jason giving sacks stewie griffin vibes in the open "got a big talk coming up? Mmm, got a big speech"
I was looking for this comment 😂
Your podcast is social media on steroids. Please never stop, because you fit the future and your insights are invaluable. You guys are becoming a 'resource'.
I love your guys friendship. The conversations go along so effortlessly. I wish i had this banter about business and news with my friends
Canada is sadly falling and still under this curse, its eeeffing scary and Ontario is especially effeddd...
Canadian here on the west coast.
I'd love to hear Google management's reaction to this analysis.
Priceless
It's Jen Gennai, they can't even name her.
She's the woke in chief.
The AI is basically named after her. 😂😂
Yall have just given Gemini tons of free advertising! All news is good news. I think this fiasco was funny af. Google rebranded from Bard to Gemini and probably didn't have a fully baked product.
They bought more time and gained enormous exposure at the same time! Brilliant! Except using black and brown folks as pawns as usual...
Too bad they're stuck in their eco-chamber trying to figure out how to hide their disgusting bias
Thanks guys for committing your time for this podcast. I enjoyed it and am learning about the business world at the same time. Keep up the good work!
BIG THANKS! to Chamath about ideas for structuring merit focus in companies regarding HR.
This pod and the last one are true gems! Thank you!
The Google engineer who claimed their AI had become self aware was also fired.
13:17 Sacks looks so genuinely happy at the thought of the blood of tyrants
He's part of billionaire class. He'll also be up against the wall when we come to refresh that tree
We are in such a special time. The fact that these conversations with such important industry leaders are being held publicly is wonderful. Thanks for the episode.
Sacks compared DEI officers to members of the Red Guard 😂
wrong. Sacks’ analogy of DEI officer to a commissar in a group of communists are spot on. if the leader veers off the Party’s ideology, the commissar can override the leader and/or report to upper mgmt to replace that leader. the commissar is the Party’s watchdog.
Par for the course, really 🥱
Love the diverse perspectives and solution-based discussions, thank you gents!
Friedberg back at it again with the crystal clear thinking
You guys are great. thanks so much for what you do! Cheers
Good episode, enjoyed it and found it stimulating. Some thoughts:
1. Brief update on Groq was good and more power to Chamath and team!
2. Google AI discussion was candid and on point. My politics are progressive, but one has to agree that Gemini went too far and got to a point of being ridiculous. There is much course correction that is needed. The discussion on the topic was harsh but well deserved. As expected, Sacks’s tone was one of sardonic glee, but I’m glad that others did not raise to his bait to make it a political talking point.
3. The debate about HR departments was great with Chamath making important and thought-provoking points. Friedman signed off on this with a note about racial and gender identities. It is true that the current social discourse has gotten out of hand on these topics, but I think race and gender to contribute to diversity. I hope the ‘besties’ don’t think it would be a good idea to go from over representation of these factors to under representing them, taking us back to square one.
4. It was great to see the team pivot back to crediting Google for doing TAC deals with content platforms - a really good, timely discussion. Thanks for that! Very insightful…
5. Wish there was more time spent on the Reddit S1 and IPO. Probably as more news emerge and the date gets closer, you guys will do a longer segment on it.
Thanks!
You guys really need to start releasing these podcasts the day your record them, you waited a whole day, and now Elon has sued OpenAi and you are missing the main news everyone wants to hear you talk about!
Need time for editing
Defund DEI, ESG, and HR! Experienced and continue to see this firsthand... promoting "diverse" folks over other much much more sr. and qualified people.
It's a demonstrable drag on a company that clearly doesn't elevate performance, which should be the only thing a company focuses on.
@@somethingginterestingg4275 Then again, the question of hiring based on immutable differences should be irrelevant. If two applicants are equally qualified, then they are equally qualified, pure and simple. Race and gender have zero to do with it.
@@somethingginterestingg4275 character, personality gets you the job.
You will have your system and they'll have theirs. @@bsmithhammer
especially HR
Been looking foward to this all week!
hello from Malaysia, love the All-In intros , always gets me smiling from the get go!
its insane how these guys vibe so well through a zoom call, would love to see a live version
goog is having a bud light moment and in my honest opinion, meritocracy does not and will not mesh well with DEI.
This is one of the best Podcast ever! You guys are awesome! I have recommended this podcast to so many of my friends :) This podcast is so amazing that I am willing to pay a subscription fee for this! food for thought for the moderators ;)
The Jefferson quote from Sacks was pure gold 😂
So great to see Jason in the groove! 🙌
Chamath,
You nailed it again. Re: HR departments/ legal 3rd parties/ DEI
You nailed it, you absolutely nailed it…to the wall.
“Just like a professional developer being asked “how are we possibly going to hang this carcass in my barn?”
Nail it to the wall
Great work to all of you gentleman…
As per usual
Take care,
Jeremy
End HR departments, End weekends, public holidays, sick pay, and parental leave. We need more profit dammit. Three mansions isnt enough. AI must replace all workers gaarrhhhaaghr!
😂 exactly
I work at a tech company, which I won't mention the name of, but let's just say it's an acronym, and our DEI is getting ridiculous. We can't say "brown bag" in referencing a lunch or picnic, we can't say female, only woman...as female refers to biological orientation...can't say black list...it's just ridiculous.
Just quit mate
It's a cult. Plain and simple
You are part of the problem if you continue working there
Would be kool to see what the design of the Apple car looked like
Great discussion of DEI and HR. I’ve learned a ton.
This is my new, and by new i mean the past 6 months, favorite podcast. Actually listening to people with real world experience in the topics discussed. Keep up the great work guys!
HR conversation is really interesting
Very useful as I'm growing a business myself. Thanks guys
These guys are on fire! 🔥 😂 So much stuff they missed! Bitcoin! Elon lawsuit. We need 2 episodes a week!
They will never talk about bitcoin.
Very educational podcast as it pertains to business and large corporations. My background is political science and international relations, so this episode is very educational for me. Well done, thanks!
A Kato Kaelin reference to start the show- ripped from the pages of todays news 😂 I love it
You guys need to talk about Humanoid robots ‼️ the humanoid race has been heating up the past few weeks
DEI: Just like MAO’s cultural revolution. There is only a need for a small committee in every village to maintain the terror and coercion.
I believe you mean Chairman Castreau’s Cultural Revolution.
People seem clueless about what is going on in Canada 🇨🇦. 😢
Yup. 💯
Chamath killing it. HR is cancer, empower employees instead and have real meritocracy. Simples.
Is it me or does Chamath look more and more like Mr Bean?
“There’s a reason I’m exec producer” he said 😂
1000 subscribers in 12 hours.
Wouldn’t it be funny if the algorithm went haywire and within a couple of days this new channel grew larger than the old one.
Good luck Joe.
Welcome to the Goolag
Good episode. Love the segment on HR!
Great Pod!!
Jason’s reaction to Kato - give out some spa days so we don’t end up like him 😂❤
On the diversity point, I agree 1000%. I have always said that there is value for a company in diversity of thought, diversity of point of view and diversity of experience. Those bring new ideas to the fore and help break paradigms. Race and gender can be a surrogate for that, but it can be (and usually is) a poor surrogate. And in any event, why rely on a surrogate?
Diversity is only useful if there are shared goals, and diverse solutions allow for better results. Modern "diversity" is divisive and corrosive because it's not about shared values and goals, it's about fripperies and competing agendas.
Great podcast, great topics. Cheers from Durango, Mexico.
Solid episode, after a few dull weeks👍🏾
I love your podcast! This is my second time watching it.
Shane Gillis does the best Trump impression.
Damn - I love you guys. The discussion level here in regards to business is second to none. I mean maybe (just maybe) there are better discussions behind closed doors but because of the fact that they are behind closed doors means: they cannot amount to absolute better for society at large. Godspeed besties ....Godspeed!
1:09:54 OMG - this is gold. Can’t wait for election season 😂
Compensation and benefits should be 100% transparent, including taxes paid. Truth sets everyone free.
Friedberg, you say that the investors weren't upset about the DEI but about competitive performance. The fallacy is that, DEI causes the inability to competitively perform because it's not a merit based system. It's a broken political ideaology thats not rooted in logic, but rather good intentions improperly implemented. A competitive system must be merit based to perform.
I'm not even convinced it's rooted in good intentions. It's based on forcing change.
Let's not forget Chamath recommended TSLA while his was dumping during COVID, and he recommended SABR last year b4 dropping 50%. Caveat Emptor.
Working for a SV company, everytime I rewatch Silicon Valley, my view changes about the whole situation. Having an HBO sitcom resonate with my everyday life is slightly frightening.
Friedburg is inside the Black Hole from the movie Interstellar, great movie!
Googles Gemini failure was not an accident. This mess could very well could be the result of an internal rebellion against the toxicity of the woke culture that has permeated every aspect of that company. The sanctified DEI offices directed the social parameters to the designers and they followed those instructions to a point of absurdity. If true, we’ll played
Benetton style ..... HA HA HA 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Always love Friedberg's backgrounds
If you saw the big meeting at Google right after the 2016 election, and you surely did, no way can you think Brin is apolitical.
In general, we need to get back to not being afraid of offending people when confronting them with the facts and reality. If facts and reality offends someone then that sounds like a personal problem.
Thank You for the show!!!
where do you find those brilliant backgrounds
Take a shot every time Chamath says ARPU
There is a current interview with Kato on RUclips. Very nice person.
I used to run my own hiring program before getting a new VP of HR. Now the process takes 3x in time to hire an entry level person.
If I do a search on Google, I want the results to show what reality was, not what some DEI activist programmers think the reality SHOULD have been. Unfortunately that is not acceptable any longer.
Well too bad! Try Russia's Internet it is dei free. DEI is even America was before colonizers
@@helpme100 "DEI is even America.." um what? are you trying to say America was diverse with all natives. Just proof when people say "diversity" they just mean non-white
Bring on the robot apocalypse, I'm ready for it
Happy Friday Y'all
All this DEI talk.....I am now coming out as a DavidSachsual.
Yup who needs viagra (if you’re a boomer)
Nothing about Elon and Twitter going down, Elon suing Open AI.... Bitcoin ... so much for an open townhall😊
David Sacks is the realest mf 😤
I just left a very well known historic Tech/Online company - they are obsessed with DE&I and it was career suicide to ever question it… I’m relieved to no longer have to swallow it all! 🎉
It somehow breaks heart when hearing what is possibly happening to Google.
I love the emporer wears no clothes analogy 20:00. Whenever you can make that analogy, the organization or system needs to be reorganized or innovated.
Apple were NEVER interested in the Car Business (Margins) they were ONLY interested in the Decatrillion High Margin Driverless Taxi business . Then they figured out It had to be NN ….Radar / LiDAR + Heuristics was a dead end and they had NO way of accumulating the training data at the scale required . THAT is now exclusively Tesla’s playpen. Same problem for Nvidia . Love the show : looking forward to “why did Elon sue Altman “ episode .
IMO Sam is hiding progress of Q* applied to Maths. Except to MS & MBS 😮
29:25 chamath NAILED it
YAAAAAAY!!!! My Nerd Fam!!! 🧟♀️
Time for Friday routine.
another home run. Thanks Gents.
Google is truly one of the biggest monopolies in history. I NEVER thought I'd say this, but I think they will be the next Yahoo. They had a great run!
We can only hope. Down with the tyrants
Okay Jason's Trump impersenation was actually great hahaha "Chamath my Sri Lankan friend how much do we love Sri Lanka? HUGE!" 😂
This could revive news papers / organizations.
Will Google need to keep getting new data in order to improve the model? Or at some point does the model not get any better with more reddit posts for example?
🔴Would you consider to stream live the All in Pod? I would like to hear what you comment on Elon’s law suit Vs Sam Altman and all the topics that pop up after you record the weekly episode.
Will it not just be discussed on next weeks?
@@ChrisM752for sure, but wouldn’t you like to get it fresh and have the chance they read your comments or questions live?
@@Ili-ana not really, happy to wait and watch next week.
Umm …. regarding your comment about Level 1 people doing Level 2 work and AI doing Level 1…. this works in the beginning…. but eventually there will be no one to move into Level 2 as all the Level 1 people will have been replaced.
Agreed… this was the dumbest part of the pod. What do you expect from pure investors…
Ah , I was refreshing my RUclips . Good to see you . I’m someone who never used to use RUclips , not even for mr.beast . Surprising but can’t help .
Not going to talk about bitcoin ripping, cool cool
They did at 3:00.
They did around 3:00
I am in mara, its nothing compared to whats going on with ai companies
Nvidia valuation gets a lengthy discussion. Yet bitcoin has exploded in value and barely a peep.
Pump our bags 💼!
I think the argument of “it’s always been this way in the history of technological revolutions” is a weak one
Customer service agents are being rapidly re-trained to do RLHF tasks. Rather than talking to customers, they are annotating transcripts from AI conversations where the customer gave the AI agent negative feedback. RLHF helps to adapt the system to handle new edge-cases and failure modes.
Great pod! I am a big of the political topics so hopefully those will be a staple.
Good to see the White House make a statement on memory related security issues.