Apologies for the iffy audio quality in this video. I tried something new with fixing up the sound, hoping that it would make my editing easier. Instead it made things much worse: I had to re-record no fewer than 37 different lines in this video, which is why you may notice some variation in tone from line to line at times. Sound is consistently one of my biggest problems when it comes to making these videos. I have been operating with a $100 headset microphone this whole time, which I then try to clean up in Audacity. But... I'm a hopeless amateur when it comes to everything sound. I've been planning to get a new microphone for some time, but when I'm not putting it off to instead work on the next video? I'm getting baffled by what exactly I might need along with the microphone itself. Different USB cords? Special adapter things to adjust the gain? The right microphone stand for my work area? My brain is well-built for writing and research, but far less so for these sorts of issues. x_x If anyone has any potential advice to give, I would welcome it. At the moment I'm thinking of getting something that can either be on a stand or attached to my desk: my desk isn't really big enough to have a microphone between me and my keyboard. I was looking at either the Blue Yeti or the Shure SM7B, though I am leaning towards the latter since I'll need a stand or attachment anyway.
no idea either but maybe try changing the environment to improve sound quality? I heard someplace it was kind of an overlooked thing that sometimes leads to pretty dramatic improvements edit: things like putting curtains up and etc
I would hazard a guess that the reason why Saber Astolfo is associated with bunnies is due to Japanese influence. The 'lunar rabbit' tradition is fairly strong over there so the leap in logic for the cute moon man to dress like a rabbit is actually rather sensible if you have a background in that culture.
Concerning the subpar accuracy of the individual classes of Astolfo. That's kind of the point lore wise. Many Servants are only qualify for one Class Container as far as we know. The ones that qualify for multiple classes are too large an existence for the ritual mechanics to summon in full. Imagine how much more broken Gilgamesh would be if all his Servant class incantations were actively expressed power-wise in one body. Counter Force and Gaia would be allied to kill him ASAP rather than tolerate such a complete resurrection of such a highly magical existence.
you have no idea about the weird effect that this Astolfo has on italians. In a way he popularized one of our best, but least known pieces of "epic" literature, but at the same time... well... he is not the most accurate or flattering depiction
That incident with the Amazons is what I'd like more details on. Are they supposed to be the same as the tribe form Greek Mythology or are people using the term more loosely? I wrote a post on my Blog at the start of Jun 2023 called "Astolfo is Masculine actually" where I argue from his POV he's not Crossdressing at all. What is the normal way the Gender are expected to dress has simply changed since 800 AD.
They aren't exactly the Amazons of Greek Mythology - I'd say they are more inspired by those Amazons, and then used in story as part of Astolfo's adventures. They have their own origin story within Orlando Furioso that dates all the way back to the Trojan War. If you are interested in digging more, the parts of Orlando Furioso that cover them are in Cantos 19 and 20.
If the main "issue" for Fates version of Astolfo is the addition of him bein into crossdressin on account of likin "cute" things then a C+ is incredibly low for a score for a character where as u put it is MOSTLY accurate in his debut series & the mobile game. It'd make more sense to give him B+ or A-. C+ seems barely above passin grade, it's too harsh after all that praise. I know that characters becomin more popular than the things they're based on is seen as a huge "problem" but I don't think it's as big of an "issue" as some claim it to be nor do I feel the need to put blame on the creators of the more popular & modern version.
I put more weight on characterization than most other things: flaws that occur there which seriously affect a character have bigger impacts than just making sure a character is holding the right weapon.
@@CrazyYurie that does sound extreme but I don't know the context for that. I don't think the addition of crossdressin to a fantastical reinterpretation that never aimed to be EXACT but merely pull inspo from is enough to condemn it to a score so low. This vid is informational & puttin it under the guise of the accuracy of the inspiration is pretty cool I jus disagree wit the ultimate rankin
@@nightlydata2181 Fair enough. I just make these videos for fun, and give the grades as a rough score. I wouldn't take them as serious business. You can watch the Artoria video if you like to see how that is. But, as a teaser? The entire premise of Lancer Artoria is built upon one key element that allows her to be so different from regular Artoria... and it's completely made up.
I have no idea why they didn't just make Astolfo a girl or even just the rider variant. The opportunity is hanging right there and it fits this character a lot more than all the other characters they applied the genderbending treatment to. Heck I am not sure Astolfo would even notice even if it is the blatant thing in the world and impossible to ignore.
@@CrazyYurie the guy is a goofball known in part for his good looks that gets into zany situations all the time and in Fate actively crossdresses. Through some wacky event Astolfo being turned into the most beautiful and well endowed person in the world and somehow not noticing in the slightest is totally in line for the guy. The character is the perfect fit for applying the random genderbending treatment to.
@@CrazyYurie it probably would be one of the best because it makes complete sense in the most bizarre way. If there is any character that is just primed for this it would be Astolfo.
There's a conversation between him and charlemagne in Extella Link that implies Astolfo's crossdressing wasn't a thing when they were alive. Which means it was only a thing he started doing as a servant.
I keep laughing at the fact that he also found his own sanity in the moon just Imagine going to the moon to get your friends sanity to only found out you yourself are insane this whole time
Apparently, though I haven't read it myself, only heard this from other Fate fans Quevedo's Heroic Poem of the Follies and Follies of Orlando the Lover (the two Follies are different in original language it's the Poema heroico de las necedades y locuras de Orlando el enamorado), a later reworking of the tale is where the crossdressing comes in. He is described as very effeminate and cute (though I still don't think the scene about crossdressing to stop Roland happens)
Ah yes Astolfo, the single character that made an entire generation of anime fans have a "Wait a minute... Am I ga--? No? Surely not. HA! HA! HA! HA! *cough* Oh but seriously please don't look at my browsing history." moment.
they really took the creative liberty to connect Astolfo with the moon rabbit because he went to the moon once. and in Japanese folklore the rabbit is making mochi on the moon so... that explains the valentine CE
Astolfo certainly is quite the goofball, but we still love him for it 😅 Ah next is Gawain, from one knight to another. He’s a good boy, and so is Gareth (she’s so cute)
I thought the cross-dressing was similar to Blackbeard where he embraces modern culture and he British and they are well know for crossdressing or at least a lot of English pop culture cross dressing show up often enough in comedy
astolfo is pretty much every gamer playing rpg´s. on his way to the main quest (supporting his king) he does every side quest he comes across and ending up going to every spot on the map other than than where he originally wanted to go hundreds of hours prior.
Don't know if anyone mentioned this but basically the reason astolfo has monster strength is because he was able to lasso a giant and put it through town.
This is gonna make no sense but i feel like this astolfo is most " in the vibe" of the orginal figure. Like what i read of myth astolfo . It makes sense that he evolved into icon of femboys and fgo version of " Random bullsh*t go" . It reminds me of how even with how crazy fGO is. For alot od characters it's just a modern version of what made their orginal mythology. Some people years later. Maybe without any connection to the orginal writers or full knowledge of the original work. Taking these characters and adding something to the legend.
I tend to avoid the darkest parts of the internet. But when I was looking for fan art of Astolfo to go with the post I made that his video was coming up? I came across quite a few.... spicy images before I found the one I wanted. x_x
The moon you say that's where lost things are okay then who's wants to go to the moon with me we're getting back what we lost I don't what we lost but we lost something that's why we have to get it back.
It is kinda crazy how much luck the character has despite not being that good in the game design wise, but he is a loveable goofball and thats enough for me.
It’s kinda anticlimactic to know how it all ends because of the first book, also a shame he didn’t have his horse but then again Apocrypha’s story probably couldn’t work without it. Also knowing the net that exist meaning Hephaestus was canonically cucked kinda pisses me off people still ship their FGO counterparts. And by ship I mean Hephaestus and Aphrodite.
About the bunny outfit, I think I can answer that but it also doesn’t have anything to do with Astolfo himself. It’s because of Yu Tu. The pet bunny of Chang’e who ascended to the moon. It really has no connection to Astolfo other than that he too flew to the moon but it’s pretty in keeping with this Astolfo’s personality to essentially cosplay Yu Tu.
It's insane that Astolfo from Fate completely eclipsed the original Astolfo. If you even google Astolfo, while there is a wiki pertaining to the original there. Everything else is about the Fate character. Truly the Astolfo Effect indeed.
I am a bit surprised that there was no mention of Astolfo's role in Fate/Extella Link. Admittedly, I don't remember it adding too much to his character. Mostly his loyalty to Charlemagne and how they usually goof around in their interactions, but there is an occasional genuine scene with them.
Thank you for finally covering one of my favorite characters in all of fate, Yurie: people always sleep on Astolfo outside of memes and... That side of the fandom😅
My ability to predict the grades you give these Servants is concerning. I haven't been wrong in my guesses since Boudica (though I skipped around order wise and she was the 6th video I've watched from this channel)
Why would that be concerning? If you are able to guess them correctly, then that means that my case for each grade is easy enough to understand that it can be guessed. :D
extremely unrelated but I wonder if the game "To the Moon" was based on this narrative that everything that gets lost is found in the Moon. iirc the main guy and girl made a promise to each other as kids that if they ever get lost, they'll meet in the moon. There's more to this story but I just found this interesting. love Astolfo though! I never realized but he does have tons of NP to compensate for his lack in power.
The "but what about the X from FGO?" at the start of these videos confuses me, since you already start talking about the X from FGO before you even get to that line.
As seen in Apocrypha, Astolfo can use the item based NPs of other Servants. Probably based off how most of his NPs are actually items that originally belonged to other people
Library of Ruina Astolfo looks cool too despite not appearing much, that's the other Astolfo i know in media Anyways thanks to traum I started to warming up again to Astolfo, cuz before that I didn't liked him for how internet and the devs themselves turned him into a nothing but an unfunny repeated joke
Bro instinct so good and luck so high his sanity chillin in the moon with another bro. Making Charlies have 2 crazy strong knight and still function smoothly.
i admit, back when i first set foot into FGO 6 years ago, i wholeheartedly believe that he is she😅 my first 4 star from beginners roll "hey, i got cute pink hair girl ❤"
The only way he seemed not on point was the cross-dressing. Everything else you said about him in your video matched with his "real" lore (if you focus mostly on his Rider form). Also, on a side note, in Japan there is a fairly well-known folk-tale about bunnies making mochi on the moon (which explains the bunny ears). He at least deserves a B/B+
Apologies for the iffy audio quality in this video. I tried something new with fixing up the sound, hoping that it would make my editing easier. Instead it made things much worse: I had to re-record no fewer than 37 different lines in this video, which is why you may notice some variation in tone from line to line at times. Sound is consistently one of my biggest problems when it comes to making these videos. I have been operating with a $100 headset microphone this whole time, which I then try to clean up in Audacity. But... I'm a hopeless amateur when it comes to everything sound. I've been planning to get a new microphone for some time, but when I'm not putting it off to instead work on the next video? I'm getting baffled by what exactly I might need along with the microphone itself. Different USB cords? Special adapter things to adjust the gain? The right microphone stand for my work area? My brain is well-built for writing and research, but far less so for these sorts of issues. x_x
If anyone has any potential advice to give, I would welcome it. At the moment I'm thinking of getting something that can either be on a stand or attached to my desk: my desk isn't really big enough to have a microphone between me and my keyboard. I was looking at either the Blue Yeti or the Shure SM7B, though I am leaning towards the latter since I'll need a stand or attachment anyway.
no idea either but maybe try changing the environment to improve sound quality? I heard someplace it was kind of an overlooked thing that sometimes leads to pretty dramatic improvements
edit: things like putting curtains up and etc
I would hazard a guess that the reason why Saber Astolfo is associated with bunnies is due to Japanese influence. The 'lunar rabbit' tradition is fairly strong over there so the leap in logic for the cute moon man to dress like a rabbit is actually rather sensible if you have a background in that culture.
Fun fact: Astolfo accompanied Charlemagne into the tomb of Sefar, which was the event that changed Charlemagne’s personality into Karl der Große.
Lancer is depicted as unluckiest class in fate franchises. That's maybe why we're not going to get lancer Astolfo anytime soon.
Poor Lancers...
RANSA GA SHINDA
@@TheFi3nd KONO HITO DENASHI
Wouldn't Astolfo just end up turning that tendency on its head? Lancer Astolfo ends up being the luckiest one of them all.
Concerning the subpar accuracy of the individual classes of Astolfo. That's kind of the point lore wise. Many Servants are only qualify for one Class Container as far as we know. The ones that qualify for multiple classes are too large an existence for the ritual mechanics to summon in full. Imagine how much more broken Gilgamesh would be if all his Servant class incantations were actively expressed power-wise in one body. Counter Force and Gaia would be allied to kill him ASAP rather than tolerate such a complete resurrection of such a highly magical existence.
you have no idea about the weird effect that this Astolfo has on italians. In a way he popularized one of our best, but least known pieces of "epic" literature, but at the same time... well... he is not the most accurate or flattering depiction
That incident with the Amazons is what I'd like more details on. Are they supposed to be the same as the tribe form Greek Mythology or are people using the term more loosely?
I wrote a post on my Blog at the start of Jun 2023 called "Astolfo is Masculine actually" where I argue from his POV he's not Crossdressing at all. What is the normal way the Gender are expected to dress has simply changed since 800 AD.
They aren't exactly the Amazons of Greek Mythology - I'd say they are more inspired by those Amazons, and then used in story as part of Astolfo's adventures. They have their own origin story within Orlando Furioso that dates all the way back to the Trojan War. If you are interested in digging more, the parts of Orlando Furioso that cover them are in Cantos 19 and 20.
@@CrazyYurie Thanks
If the main "issue" for Fates version of Astolfo is the addition of him bein into crossdressin on account of likin "cute" things then a C+ is incredibly low for a score for a character where as u put it is MOSTLY accurate in his debut series & the mobile game. It'd make more sense to give him B+ or A-. C+ seems barely above passin grade, it's too harsh after all that praise. I know that characters becomin more popular than the things they're based on is seen as a huge "problem" but I don't think it's as big of an "issue" as some claim it to be nor do I feel the need to put blame on the creators of the more popular & modern version.
I put more weight on characterization than most other things: flaws that occur there which seriously affect a character have bigger impacts than just making sure a character is holding the right weapon.
@@CrazyYurie That makes sense but as a person who feels similarly on characterization that's still too harsh FOR ONE complaint
@@nightlydata2181 It is if its a serious complaint. I gave Lancer Artoria an F over one single complaint.
@@CrazyYurie that does sound extreme but I don't know the context for that. I don't think the addition of crossdressin to a fantastical reinterpretation that never aimed to be EXACT but merely pull inspo from is enough to condemn it to a score so low. This vid is informational & puttin it under the guise of the accuracy of the inspiration is pretty cool I jus disagree wit the ultimate rankin
@@nightlydata2181 Fair enough. I just make these videos for fun, and give the grades as a rough score. I wouldn't take them as serious business. You can watch the Artoria video if you like to see how that is. But, as a teaser? The entire premise of Lancer Artoria is built upon one key element that allows her to be so different from regular Artoria... and it's completely made up.
I have no idea why they didn't just make Astolfo a girl or even just the rider variant. The opportunity is hanging right there and it fits this character a lot more than all the other characters they applied the genderbending treatment to. Heck I am not sure Astolfo would even notice even if it is the blatant thing in the world and impossible to ignore.
How do you mean? By emphasizing that Astolfo is a goofball who forgets things, and so might even forget his own gender? :o
@@CrazyYurie the guy is a goofball known in part for his good looks that gets into zany situations all the time and in Fate actively crossdresses. Through some wacky event Astolfo being turned into the most beautiful and well endowed person in the world and somehow not noticing in the slightest is totally in line for the guy. The character is the perfect fit for applying the random genderbending treatment to.
@@andresmarrero8666 Well it wouldn't be the worst genderflip Fate has done.
@@CrazyYurie it probably would be one of the best because it makes complete sense in the most bizarre way. If there is any character that is just primed for this it would be Astolfo.
@@andresmarrero8666 I'd submit that a better one is Nagao Kagetora, and perhaps others I've yet to look into thoroughly.
There's a conversation between him and charlemagne in Extella Link that implies Astolfo's crossdressing wasn't a thing when they were alive. Which means it was only a thing he started doing as a servant.
I keep laughing at the fact that he also found his own sanity in the moon just Imagine going to the moon to get your friends sanity to only found out you yourself are insane this whole time
'Stolfo's IRL story is so batshit crazy, and would fit for a minute singularity. Hell, it felt like an average Baldur's Gate 3/Larian Studios gameplay
Saber Astolfo's NP is easier to see in FGO Arcade as it clearly shows his NP traping the enemy due to FGO Aracde being 3D.
Apparently, though I haven't read it myself, only heard this from other Fate fans Quevedo's Heroic Poem of the Follies and Follies of Orlando the Lover (the two Follies are different in original language it's the Poema heroico de las necedades y locuras de Orlando el enamorado), a later reworking of the tale is where the crossdressing comes in. He is described as very effeminate and cute (though I still don't think the scene about crossdressing to stop Roland happens)
I will read it and give an update. Only Quevedo poem I read was the one where he dissed Góngora
Did you read it? @@mikelorme635
Ah yes Astolfo, the single character that made an entire generation of anime fans have a "Wait a minute... Am I ga--? No? Surely not. HA! HA! HA! HA! *cough* Oh but seriously please don't look at my browsing history." moment.
the femboy fetish awakening for a lot of weebs and non-weebs
they really took the creative liberty to connect Astolfo with the moon rabbit because he went to the moon once. and in Japanese folklore the rabbit is making mochi on the moon so... that explains the valentine CE
Astolfo(fate) has nearly overshadowed the real astolfo, and I do not mind at all
Fate Astolfo is a very likable character. :D
Astolfo certainly is quite the goofball, but we still love him for it 😅
Ah next is Gawain, from one knight to another. He’s a good boy, and so is Gareth (she’s so cute)
ohhhhh.... now that makes sense... why he was in Agartha. when in his original story he was trapped on an island full of amazones.
I thought the cross-dressing was similar to Blackbeard where he embraces modern culture and he British and they are well know for crossdressing or at least a lot of English pop culture cross dressing show up often enough in comedy
astolfo is pretty much every gamer playing rpg´s.
on his way to the main quest (supporting his king) he does every side quest he comes across and ending up going to every spot on the map other than than where he originally wanted to go hundreds of hours prior.
Well said!
Carlogian myth really is just medieval fanfic, huh
You're not wrong. :P
Don't know if anyone mentioned this but basically the reason astolfo has monster strength is because he was able to lasso a giant and put it through town.
"Thats that, and this is this"
Wait, what you mean FGO Astolfo actually said that?
"Sore wa sore, kore wa kore"
This is gonna make no sense but i feel like this astolfo is most " in the vibe" of the orginal figure. Like what i read of myth astolfo . It makes sense that he evolved into icon of femboys and fgo version of " Random bullsh*t go" .
It reminds me of how even with how crazy fGO is. For alot od characters it's just a modern version of what made their orginal mythology.
Some people years later. Maybe without any connection to the orginal writers or full knowledge of the original work. Taking these characters and adding something to the legend.
Ignoring what the Internet did to him, he just a really chill dude
I tend to avoid the darkest parts of the internet. But when I was looking for fan art of Astolfo to go with the post I made that his video was coming up? I came across quite a few.... spicy images before I found the one I wanted. x_x
@@CrazyYurie 💀
@@CrazyYurie And this is why we turn on SafeSearch.
the lancer class is so unlucky it would never hold a lucky goober like Astolfo
The moon you say that's where lost things are okay then who's wants to go to the moon with me we're getting back what we lost I don't what we lost but we lost something that's why we have to get it back.
Great video for FGO’s best girl 🍡🍡
Thanks a ton! :D
I definitely disagree with the C+
He definitely an A- or A
Care to explain why? :o
Femboy King!
It is kinda crazy how much luck the character has despite not being that good in the game design wise, but he is a loveable goofball and thats enough for me.
It’s kinda anticlimactic to know how it all ends because of the first book, also a shame he didn’t have his horse but then again Apocrypha’s story probably couldn’t work without it. Also knowing the net that exist meaning Hephaestus was canonically cucked kinda pisses me off people still ship their FGO counterparts. And by ship I mean Hephaestus and Aphrodite.
The Greek gods were pretty terrible.
About the bunny outfit, I think I can answer that but it also doesn’t have anything to do with Astolfo himself. It’s because of Yu Tu. The pet bunny of Chang’e who ascended to the moon.
It really has no connection to Astolfo other than that he too flew to the moon but it’s pretty in keeping with this Astolfo’s personality to essentially cosplay Yu Tu.
I think more servants should be cross dressing because for a long time pants just weren't a thing. Skirts for them would be just a normal thing
It's insane that Astolfo from Fate completely eclipsed the original Astolfo. If you even google Astolfo, while there is a wiki pertaining to the original there. Everything else is about the Fate character. Truly the Astolfo Effect indeed.
Id be interested in hearing your thoughts on Circe. Personally, im a bit mixed. But im not the most knowledgable on Circe's myth tbh.
She also interests me, but it might take a while. There's a long list to go through from earlier polls. x_x
Femboy Queen I mean
That boy starts a scene
Ass that has to be seen to be believed
More bomb than mephistopheles
I am a bit surprised that there was no mention of Astolfo's role in Fate/Extella Link. Admittedly, I don't remember it adding too much to his character. Mostly his loyalty to Charlemagne and how they usually goof around in their interactions, but there is an occasional genuine scene with them.
Thank you for finally covering one of my favorite characters in all of fate, Yurie: people always sleep on Astolfo outside of memes and... That side of the fandom😅
My ability to predict the grades you give these Servants is concerning. I haven't been wrong in my guesses since Boudica (though I skipped around order wise and she was the 6th video I've watched from this channel)
Why would that be concerning? If you are able to guess them correctly, then that means that my case for each grade is easy enough to understand that it can be guessed. :D
Its concerning because my ability to predict these things accurately scares me sometimes hahaha
@@DarktheRelentless I wouldn't be scared of that. :D
extremely unrelated but I wonder if the game "To the Moon" was based on this narrative that everything that gets lost is found in the Moon.
iirc the main guy and girl made a promise to each other as kids that if they ever get lost, they'll meet in the moon. There's more to this story but I just found this interesting.
love Astolfo though! I never realized but he does have tons of NP to compensate for his lack in power.
12:45 Crazy Yurie lore. If they ever become a servant, this will be their central characteristic somehow
If I was a servant, I'd prolly either be a Berserker or Avenger.
20:16 no one is immune to the femboy knight
The "but what about the X from FGO?" at the start of these videos confuses me, since you already start talking about the X from FGO before you even get to that line.
The first lines usually relate to the real person or myth - not necessarily the Fate character specifically.
As seen in Apocrypha, Astolfo can use the item based NPs of other Servants. Probably based off how most of his NPs are actually items that originally belonged to other people
Library of Ruina Astolfo looks cool too despite not appearing much, that's the other Astolfo i know in media
Anyways thanks to traum I started to warming up again to Astolfo, cuz before that I didn't liked him for how internet and the devs themselves turned him into a nothing but an unfunny repeated joke
Also Argalia library of ruina is a silly guy
There's also Astolfo from The Case Files Of Vanitas, where he was made to be a sort of a reverse version of Fate's Astolfo
How would you rank Rider Astolfo and Saber Astolfo separately?
I considered doing that, but I didn't find the case strong enough to judge them separately since their character is basically the same.
Astolfo is one of my favorite characters in Fate. He’s such a bro ❤
Bro instinct so good and luck so high his sanity chillin in the moon with another bro. Making Charlies have 2 crazy strong knight and still function smoothly.
awesome vid as always. catching the premiere for once was neat as well.
I already got my jousting armor ready for this video. Striped thigh highs, a skirt, and sailor top.
Didn't know best girl had game
i admit, back when i first set foot into FGO 6 years ago, i wholeheartedly believe that he is she😅
my first 4 star from beginners roll "hey, i got cute pink hair girl ❤"
I mean, he does look like a cute pink hair girl. :D
Too harsh
How so?
The only way he seemed not on point was the cross-dressing. Everything else you said about him in your video matched with his "real" lore (if you focus mostly on his Rider form). Also, on a side note, in Japan there is a fairly well-known folk-tale about bunnies making mochi on the moon (which explains the bunny ears). He at least deserves a B/B+