[FGO] "How Good are the Summer 8 Rerun Servants ?"
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Tonelico Hot take : • FGO Hot Takes："Tonelic...
Summer Castoria Hot take : • FGO Hot Takes："Balance...
Summer Melusine Hot take : • FGO Hot takes : "Summe...
Summer Baobhan Sith Hot take : • FGO Hot Takes : "Summe...
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Tonelico
6:21 Summer Castoria / Summer Suzuka
7:46 Summer Kuro
13:54 Summer Melusine
15:09 Summer Barghest
16:50 Summer Baobhan sith
18:11 Conclusion 
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hey Plushie, everybody here. just wanted to say I appreciate you and your content, I find your videos to be very relaxing, and I usually learn stuff from the more informative ones. helps a ton with my anxiety, PTSD, and insomnia issues. very much enjoy watching your videos after dying at work to unwind.
tl;dr - thanks for content bro
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but plushie.... summer kuro's main purpose is to enable arash 3T shenanigans
I will give her that lol she made arash 3 turns actually doable lol
@@PlushieMistressPlusshiiieeeee is np2 good enough?
TLDR, in terms of gameplay these are arguably the best summer servants gameplay wise, with summer 7 being the only competitor quality wise. Summer 7 has supports though, which is why they are probably better.
Also the best summer event for the scenario wise, Nasu cooked hard🔥
I think the big advantage of the summer 7 was more because they had 3 SSR compare to summer 8 with only 2. On top of that, each of the 3 are also a top tier, lady avalon as the art version of merlin, summer skadi as another top tier quick support, and summer ibuki as arguably the best AoE servant in the game.
Kinda hard to compare them since the summer 7 have more servant to offer.
@@farizahmad3036to be fair, Morgan pulls double duty as the third summer 8 servant, and she is easily the best aoe caster in the game, and one of the best Aoe servants overall, while still being able to pull farming decently well as a side gig (funnily enough, she also has the best gatcha CE. Chamantis easy touples The Arc and Koyan Ce)
She does wins in originality compared to Ms Not Merlin and MegaGmax Iyo 😂
Also in terms of SRs.....yeah tbh summer 8 wins by virtue of not being weight down by Gareth (aka Diet Gawain)
@@farizahmad3036they didnt decrease the summer 8 servants though, if you include Tonelico/Morgan its 3 ssr and 4 sr
Cant be the best when none of the servants is a meta support.
On a personal note, the misuse of summer morgan slot and the over use of castoria was tasteless imo
If there's a bad unit in this Banner, it'd be Barghest. But even then, kinda speaks something about a banner when the worst unit there is an Arts unit that can change NP Type and has a somewhat decent farming capability
Wasn't summer Suzuka a quick farmer? Is she good, I haven't seen her a lot
don't care, Gigamaxing the best dog when she gets to NA regardless.
She isnt bad , she is good but def the weakest
@@maihung5512I’m pretty sure Suzuka is the weakest of the roster and barghest is second
@@amari7782 when even the weakest is pretty good
So Arc really is the only anni Servant not getting a rerun ever. Crazy.
Technically, tonelico get a rerun banner because she is part of the summer event
I hope they do a rerun of all the Anni Servants like they did with the Valentine Servants.
I don't think rasputin rerun either
@@sakuramiraclesyeah , but Rasputin is a new year Servant
It's possible that they save her banner for something bigger
im quite lucky to get Kuro on last summer. Im now super excited to get NP5 Tonelico. just 2 more copies!
As someone with a NP3 summer melusine, i didnt have to worry about looping at all in any event till now at least on the 90+ quests (some times even 90++) because dumping every single castoria skill plus xu fu skill on her makes her loop so fucking much its crazy
She's great to have at high NP levels. My summer melu looped all the 90++ that came after her banner except the 90++ from Draco's event rerun.
i think Summer Chloe was never really meant for farming in the first place, though she does enable Arash 3 turn looping, her versatility however makes her a high priority target, missing out on her isn't the end of the world but it's like missing out Super Orion, not a required unit but one that allows for lots of easy solutions
also what kinda madman would dislike Melusine? lol
You can call me a madman but i never saw her appeal. Yeah, dragon loli and all but that's about it. Never got into her gameplay value either.
Basically my point yes, overrated doesn’t mean bad i said it in the video
@@GBlockbreaker i am agree with you
Up until the current JP event lol, no Berserker could do that 90++ because Voyachad.
Edit : The hidden gem is really Cait Cu, since her gimmick is crazy fun when it gets going.
Good for account
Bad for wallet
could you explain how to make purchases on jp from a different country (aus) i wanna know how to so i can summon on any gssrs since i need koyan for my kukulkan who is becoming a 120 (half way there)
@@makueiadour7714 i think you just need a Japanese play store account to do it so you can charge it that way. Could be wrong If it changed it.
@@makueiadour7714are you in Google play or ITunes?
@@makueiadour7714 you just need a japan googleplay account and international credit card (mastercard/visa/jcb) 👍
@@makueiadour7714Using credit or debit card should be doable. You need to have the international purchase permission on tho.
If you don't have any of those and you really REALLY want to buy SQ, then I guess your only hope is buying via some 3rd party SQ seller. This one comes with risks tho. So proceed with caution.
I play on NA, but I also can't buy SQ from my country and I don't have credit/debit card. So I did this method last year to buy SQ for GSSR. Worked fine. Well, it seems that one SQ seller that I contacted is one of the main SQ dealer for every FGO player in my country. So they are pretty trustworthy and they know what they are doing.
I really like this format,its a nice way to showcase both your Ls and your Ws while promoting past content along.
I liked this form of content and will keep the info in mind when saving for summer 8!
Seeing the thumbnail
Every kuro fans: this is declaration of war 😟😠
Its fine, Kuro is going to take all my SQ one way or another im sure of it.
Still going for NP5 next year anyway
Tonelico: 8th anni servant. Got a rerun.
Arc: 7th anni servant. Still no rerun.
(Still hoping she'll have rerun this year's JP anni :
When he said the team cost was too big I thought he was talking about the MONEY at first lmao.
Plush with the cheeky 2am upload
I found Kuro can push damage over the line in some edge cases. But otherwise she is a bit expensive in comp cost, if she cost 3 star she would be good.
Chloe is Chloe, my friends.
cute and funny
😭
Good thing she's a 4 star.
Bad thing is she's a 4 star
That's like an easy skip or easy roll no in-between
Grailed Chloe lover here, super excited for summer Chloe 🙏
You kinda miss the point of Kuro summer and is to help those which dont have the top SSR supports to loop, also for certain servants, also if your koyans is already 15 bond you can go double Kuro and dont "waste" bond at cost of less damage, Oh but still, good video making clear the good and bad points.
Nah lmao
or you could go to other card supports idk?
Lol, people are just shilling her so hard when other players have already proven how highly impractical she is. By this point it's just self-denial.
Double kuro id say misses out on quite a bit of damage. Also great substitute in case someone is b15 usually is out of my consideration, otherwise i would have given proto merlin extra points in farming.
I remember when you first released your tonelico hot takes video and I was confused with what you were talking about as I was having good amount of fun and dmg with her. One year later, I finally feel vindicated.
Really enjoyed the video! It helps us NA players know what to roll for and what units have better longevity in the game. Personally I plan to 120/NP5 Tonelico so I'm super stoked that your opinion on her is good.
I already intended to get Kuro np5 for NA, so if by any chance I'm not a fan of this year anniversary servant I can save for Tonelico in NA
As someone who lost their account and is only recovered it after a 3 year hiatus, I gotta say this was a really well made reccap.
Thanks for the insight on all the servants that I had no knowledge on.
Getting back into the game is a slow process and starting back from LB5 is a pain, but FGO is FGO.
Cheers.
Bro Plushie speedran making the vid😂
I can't wait for next year in na for Tonelico/Morgan going for np5. I'm really debating which support to go for Tamamo or Himiko, healing and skill cooldown or more buster damage and overcharge. Once Aoko Aozaki comes, she'll make Tonelico/Morgan farming even more powerful.
Just finished my Morgan 120 and next is Tonelico for me as well! Also going for Aoko when she comes around. Good luck fellow Aesc truther
The best way I've found to use summer Kuro is just as a damage amp and ignore the battery. Either in very difficult nodes to eek out just that little bit more damage, or in less difficult nodes just so I don't have to use an SSR support so I can save on party cost and bond someone else. Mine is almost bond 11 already.
The setups that rely on her battery are just too clunky and sometimes too expensive.
I swear to god i hate that i have to clear lb 7..... I just restarted the fight again because i ran out of servants man...... I fell like i have to pass this year.......😢
i like how you talk about how a servant performs in CQ. useful stuff 👍
I paid 900 SQ for Tonelico and that night I had a nightmare.
Now thats a good thumnail
Chloe is the killer of reddit
Kuro is still an SSR support in my heart :')
For arash users she sure is
> Both Skadi and Summer Skadi carrying Quick Meta. ✅
> Both Castoria and Summer Castoria carrying Arts meta. 🌀
> Summer Koyanskaya: ??????? (coming soon) 💥
Plushie is foregeting Chloe's bond ce that gives a couple of special buffs for free at the start of the battle (3 if im not mistaken) if missing charge is a concern, at the cost of a ce slot you wont be. The other nitpicks are totally true though, a lot of clicks and really expensive party (also bringing bond ce defeats the point of 6ce comps)
Such a waste of cost in the team.. it just beats the purpose of bringing farming ces in events which you need a lot of
>bond ce
Lmaooo
its one buff for every time she shows up on the field, for a grand total of 3 times, ryou emerald has demonstrated this. its totally impractical
@@grailedrobin yeah some ppl and plushie made me aware of that in other comment. Sadge... cuz I was kinda hype since I just got the CE
anniversary is like 3 weeks away , no way I summon now it's too risky
I just want summer sith hope I get 1 or 2
Chloe still good for me , Many time she can make some np1 unit can kill enemy wave and she can stake two 20% bond up ce , good for farm bond saint quartz. But yes ... She is not unit that you need to serious reroll for her .
If she have her bond ce , I can gain more of np from skill 3 but man ..... If her bond ce can give 10-20 np damage to all our unit that would be great .
Yeah I never said she was bad, if you watch the video i just said she wasn’t a must roll and the thumbnail said she is overrated not bad
Ty for vid. Puts everyone in perspective any chance you can make team comp vids for 90++ when NA gets? Lack of info for that
Will there be a JP start dash anytime soon? I wanna create an account so bad so im waiting for the anniversary...
I have a question as a dps, when does kuro switch out. Can she dodge a break bar np, front line 2 units get wiped, then she comes back into the game for example?
And that's your answer why she's called impractical. If you screw up ONCE, the comp revolving around her falls flat completely.
She can, its a fun thing she can do against bosses like big kiara, I have a video about it last year actually
@@PlushieMistress thanks!
I believe in koyan summer, she is real frfr
super TLDR: they're good
I just started my ftp jp account a few months ago got lucky with np3 okitan and I've been trying to account stall for the anniversary 7th day start dash bonus this bait event ruined that because summer bob was my favorite servant from Last year 😭
this years is green years
as EN player
2022: got Summer Musashi
2023: got Summer Kama
2024: somehow got Summer Ibuki
Hopefully Art looper comp still love me next year for Melusine
I'ma be real honest. Come summer next year, the only thing I'm using the SQ dump we get then for is Chloe Avenger. The ability to allow more flexible farming is more valuable to me than the other units, which would be in roles I have already filled with grailed units.
Probably important to note that summer kuro can actually shed the enemy dependency on wave 1 w/ her bond 10 craft essence + lvl 10 append 2 skill on the dps. Biggest downside is that you need to have oberon fielded for wave 1 which does slightly decrease the wave 1 damage since we miss the 50% buster up from koyan, but, this is slightly offset by kuro's s3 which is 20% NP damage up.
Sequence is as follows;
DPS 50% Battery > Kuro S1 > Kuro S2 > Kuro S3 > Oberon S1 > NP > Koyan S1 > Koyan S3 > Plug Koyans > Koyan S1 > Koyan S3 > NP > DPS 50% Battery > Oberon S2 > Oberon S3 > NP.
Hope this helps.
I kinda disagree with kuro's assessments shes really good as extra buffer in 90++ nodes when you only have np2 or 3 servants her extra buff plus plug suit capability will save you when you can't kill those high hp wave 2 or 3 90++ nodes as mentioned her np charge is gimmick is conditional but as said shes really great for players who don't have those almighty NP5 omnifarmers
a lot of people kinda forget this cuz they focus on the charge gimmick but she opened up a lot of possibilities for my lower NP servants to do 90++ nodes
Counterpoint : Cost
I'd be pretty insane if i had to completely rely on a gimmick that would outright flop with just a single mistake.
@@reishiki8682 who cares about cost when I could do 90++ with my favorite NP1 or 2 servants
and your argument is just a basic skill issue FGA exist and I'd argue with a 3 week event format you dont even have to grind that much 8-10 runs isnt that much per day considering that even buster looping has the same argument that 1 mistake will flop your run
For damage I can agree its a nice free damage boost without interfering with your comp. Miss crane can achieve similar things if you have the stars for it (mostly for B or Q)
@@zeroone2731 i am agree with you
Yea dmg has been very bad for me on 90++ nodes even tho I have dam near every support like I agree with plushie but some of these nodes aren't fair for collectors like me you either np3 or stick to 90+ which is fine, but it would be nice to try 90++ farming.
Since pulling Summer Melu there has been literally nothing I haven't been able to farm out that wasn't an Avenger 90++ (which I think there's been maybe 2 since then, if even?) Summer Ibuki has easier general damage, but that 80 percent charge is a god send to just being able to completely ignore what the wave numbers are. Sure, she doesn't hit as hard as the other two, but when you pop in Oberon and activate all buffs, she still kills everything and anything on T3 anyway, so what difference does it make?
Ibuki is great for an all-rounder, Musashi is real good in story content since she has invuln pierce, Melusine is the hands-down queen of universal farming. Her clears are clean every time, and even this recent event with the Voyager 90++ is easy. Personal opinion is that if you want a true can-handle-all-general-farming servant Summer Melu is the current top.
Got Summer Castoria in one multi (Came in a rainbow too), surprisingly. I tried my giving my hands at Tonelico, but she didn’t come home unfortunately.
It seems Castoria likes me since both her OG and Summer version came under 1 multi in JP.
But Plushie… Arash looping (new meta)
The audacity they have to pretend 30M DL doesn't exist and still release summer 8 banner 💀
So plushie are you going to stream your attempts to beat the NA ORT raid once lostbelt 7 is out NA?
Summer Kuro, I only use for 2 cases, farming with salter or doing funny melu dmg comps with crane, oberon, kuro etc
wowowoow
Well as long as I see my queen smiling I don’t mind if I get baited
Between Tezcatlipoca and Tonelico, who's the better multi-core unit? I've looked over their skillsets, both seem to have a lot of parallels and areas that one does better than the other.
Tez has more flexibility than Tonelico in terms of providing party charge as his 30% party charge skill is unconditional, plus an extra 10% charge per NP.
Meanwhile, Tonelico provides 50% party charge and more party buffs but S3 is locked behind a 5T CD, which means if you want to use s3 at wave 2, a teammate who can give OC2 is a must plus the OC Mystic code is needed for CD reduction, so basically more charge and buffs for the party than Tez but more restrictions in terms of team comps. Currently only Summer Castoria and Koyan Dark fits the criteria.
I personally like tonelico bc tonelico has more steroid to make her damage boosting big enough for 90++, tez is ofc decent in 90++ but def shines brighter in like fast farm comps with double tez
Tonelico (anni 8 servant) has gotten rerun before arc (anni 7 servant)
I just want one copy of Summer Bao...
Ah fudge, I'm still on Zeus.
Much as I want Chloe I'm never rolling for split rate up 4*'s so it's all in on Mel.
One other nice thing about Tonelico is that they do seem to put overcharge event currency CE's out quite a bit, so she can maybe pop her 3 turn 2 in that scenario potentially. Just a really solid servant, glad my new years gssr got me to NP2 of her. Could maybe get NP3 off gssr for anni 9 too depending on the breakdown. Not rolling these banners though because I'm broke on JP sadly. Have to wait for anni quartz and then maybe I can roll if someone enticing enough comes along.
With chloe now even laksmibai can do 3/3/1
With double summer skadi chloe and oberon on that ordeal call lancer qp map
I swear if this game gives me another dupe to make my suzuka np8, when i still couldn't get a single chloe, imma be so sad
if I don't get anything then thats all right cos i didn't save a whole lot that i can use
NP2 Draco or NP1 S. Castoria?
It does'nt matter if chloe is overrated or not, she is wiafu and that is enough.
They are not really bait,really gud servant
I got my summer Barghest last year and everything else is so irrelevant in my eyes that devs could delete them and I wouldn't even notice
分析得不錯~但還是抽不到QQ
Salter's buff is basically just a test of what chloe would do, which is an interesting thing to do, but it doesn't work as well as youd wish
Is the idea of a summer castoria vs draco a good comparason?
I did make the comparison in my hot take video i linked in the desc, TL;DR id say pure powerlevel wise castoria is stronger but draco is more unique
The only reason Tonelico having a rerun is because of her 3rd ascension lol. Meanwhile Arc wanter is left in the dust
Because Arc herself hasn't even shown up in an event OR the main story. Hell, she even flat-out says she's just here for some Tsukihime representation.
At least she appeared in the story AND the event lmao
Arc every month shows her "I am just here for fanservice" status by not appearing nowhere....all the time really. Why would she get a rerun when she isnt relevant to any event or story chapter?
@@mysticpumpkin8520So she simply doesn't exist in Chaldea, what's the point of getting Gaia's protector if she doesn't do anything for Chaldea? even AA mentions how having her as an ally is good in one of her conversations but she hasn't done anything to date
How far is lost belt 7 into story im barley on Orleans 😅
It's the last chapter of part 2, I think. You're barely on the first chapter of part 1 so you have quite a while to go
Give me your entire stock of "overrated" kuro
Baobhan Sith is from a different, better made game
With Zerktoria.... mine does bad dmge with no MLB BG and being level 100 10/10/10.... my other crit units do more damage than her in NP (is they are ST) or in crits (doesnt matter if they are AOE or ST)
hey Plushie, where is our Monte Cristo hot takes? 😭
is Tonnelico a good replacement for Schetz and Anastasia ?
I mean she cannot arts loop but she is stronger than both as dps by quite a lot so its more like an upgrade than replacement
@@PlushieMistress ah ok sorry I thought her NP was arts, didn't know it was buster >.>
Man I wan't to get bakastoria so bad
they are bait, extremely good bait
Chocolat Illya is beautiful, cute and funny
I think Summer Melusine might actually be the best "bring to every fight" servant in the game. She has such a cracked kit that she even beats single enemy fights without much difficulty. Even if you have a strong Summer Ibuki she still will have a good position in your account.
If we are comparing summer musashi, summer ibuki and summer melusine, and you could only pick one; it's summer Ibuki. But if you could pick two, it would be musashi and melusine.
No lol
If i wanted a Ruler I'll just go for Caren, that gets a hefty atk up from just using BG via her passive. Arts AoE's are so same-y that if you get one you don't need another besides being who it is.
thats what i think too, because if we look purely for dps well of course you can get a np3 - 5 ibuki and kill the enemies before they can touch you. And if the enemy has some mechanics (like invul) you can just use musashi who basically deals equal or more damage than ibuki. At the end of the day it becomes easier the more dupes and variety of supports you have for your dps the thing is when thats not the case xD
Chloe is jailbait.
So Barghest Archer is worst than Zenobia and EMIYA easy skip may i get baited with Castoria berk
It is your job as the last master to give the faerie servants and co a good life. MAKE EM HAPPY!
People dont like melusine...? 😢
In terms of fun I'm not sure 6 minutes of saying how overrated Kuro is would necessarily be tantalizing. 6 minutes of Tonelico praise was far more enjoyable.
Overall I'd say the concept of this sort of video is good. Even if it wasn't as enjoyable to watch in this specific case.
Well aren't you a negative nancy. His kuro comments are valid because people did hype her up and there needs to be an explanation as to why it's not true.
@@RyouEmeraldUnfortunately that's the effect of a hype train that's in full denial mode.
I have her and i barely use her myself, i found Cait Cu to be more fun to use since i just play out CQ's to see how wacky i can stack up buffs indefinitely with her, rather than Ms. Make a Mistake Once She Fails Hard.
I didn’t even say she was bad i just said why people overrated her
Got summer Morgan, leveled her up to lv80 not enuff xp card cuz already gave it to Hibichika
Damn this takes me back. Can't remember when last I didn't have enough exp cards lol
But honestly after a few lottos, you'll get there too
tonelico still doesnt convince me a bit zzz 🗿
I want a chocolate loli onahole❤❤❤❤
I tried to use S Castoria on last summer event but even with event buff her damage disappointing. I don't get why you hype her some much, when she hits like wet noodles. The only good thing about her is her special invul, but thats all. Also her NP gain is so bad that I wonder if she really an arts unit.
Because they're clearly gigawhaled her out. If it's just NP1 she's just an anemic version of all the other whaled comparisons. Oh and she HAS to hit her trait mod.
Her refund is bad but she has 70 battery to compensate for it, 3 anti traits, ability to crit despite being arts zerk etc. she is just good in most ways a zerk has been good and i feel like most NP1s hit like potato so its not just her
@@reishiki8682 just like any other np1 unit?
"her NP gain is so bad that I wonder if she really an arts unit" full refund shouldn't be a standard for ST arts. There's a couple ST arts zerks that can, but they both have a lot less battery. I'd take 70% battery and low refund in a farming node over 30% and good refund. (also her card gain is really good)
"Overrated"
Yeah, no, not even you believe that.
She is
She is overrated, sometimes I forget she exists in my account type of overrated
she is lol, stop coping
She very much is overrated, hasn't been seen in high-level nodes even a single time since her release lol
I have np 3 chloe not because i want her but castoria dont want to come home
For me, i don't care, at least this character make me happy💜
(Again)
I'm a simple man. I see any version of Morgan, I roll. Gotta NP5 them all! Which is a tall order for a F2P like me lol. Tho I hope I can get Aesc/Morgan next year in NA instead, and not from this rerun.
Extra: I beg you, Lasagna, Nasu, 2-san... Please give Summer Morgan alternate Swimsuit spiritron dress! How come one of the best money maker waifu in FGO only have 1 summer outfit!? This is a crime against humanity!
should i skip summer skadi and summer Ibuki for Tonelico and Summer Castoria in NA next year?
It depend on you playstyle. If you use quick as your main setup then no matter what summer skadi is a must. That also goes to summer ibuki if you use art, tho in her cases, if you already have a high invested AoE art DPS such as summer musashi then you can probably skip her.
Tonelico is great, but if you want to use her as main DPS then you need more copy of her. Summer castoria also great, she is basically one of the best ST DPS in the game, but if you already have a top tier high invested ST DPS on your own and you didnt play with art that much then she is not a must.
@@farizahmad3036 based on what you say, i think i'll skip the summer banner and focus on saving for Tonelico and Summer cast, thank you for the suggestion..
@@agengyudhi5246 no problem, good luck on saving up and beware to not get baited by the other banners.
@@farizahmad3036 yeah, thnx anyway , i think i might need some luck after all..
Bruh isn't that foo far off. Like I don't think rolling now would affect your odds for them at all
Bait Banner, no one has that many Bells for both saber faces.
guys, how many qaurtz I need for np 5?
600-1000 for average luck, then 1000+ for bad luck
@@watashielshaeddo5454 thx
The odds for a rate up 5 star is 0.8% so basicly 125 pulls/11 multis + 4 singles, which comes out to 342 SQ per copy
Meaning for NP5 with average luck you would need 1710 SQ
I never understood why ppl were going so crazy over Kuro honestly.... conditional things are hardly that OP in the first place...
Because they saw gimmicky farm enabler and their brains turned off. After people properly tested her out she is impractical as hell just from cost usage alone.
She is a free attack buff in any comp cuz she plugs out independently. If you are f2p with only np1 servants you could use that extra buff on some 90++. She also enables BG for busters, and if you have her bond CE the number of enemies is not relevant (plushie forgot to mention that) she is niche but i found myself using her a lot for challange quest
She enables my boi Arash to 3 turn and that's all she needed to do.
@@hectorgregorio95 her bond ce doesn't drop 3 stacks as people thought, its one stack for every time she shows up, for a grand total of 3 times. it is clearly impractical
@@hectorgregorio95yeah she doesnt drop 3 stacks at once
Nice bait but kuro is solid
She's solid, but generally impractical, that's the point