It’s a good practice to use a leaf blower to blow off any polymeric sand from the top of the pavers before wetting it in. If not, you’ll get a haze on the pavers.
Brutal install. Use some rails to guide your screed bar. Don’t pre compact your sand. Don’t waste your time with the mallet. Install the pavers, sweep them in and then run the compactor over the whole thing. Sweep again to fill the joints. Blow off the surface with a leaf blower to remove any residue prior to watering.
@@johnwilkins3995you could, but it won’t be as effective as a compactor. A 250lbs compactor is about ideal. Expect your paver to settle about 1/4” on a 1” sand bedding base.
Very helpful for the patio I'm doing. Been doing a lot of digging and leveling but wanted to watch something before doing my base layer and laying pavers. Greatly appreciated!
I know some of you may think just scraping the sand with the screed like this is fine, but for the last 10 years, i have always used 1 inch screed pipe guides. Making sure its all level perfectly.
@@_Moto215 in 10 years, ive never compacted sand. Lol. With using 1 inch steel pipes for guides and a metal screed bar or very straight 2×4 or whatever. Using the guides and screeds kinda acts as the compactor. I havrnt had any problems with settling of uneveness in 10 years. So I would think im doing something right
B R G Thanks! I’m sure you are. My 600 sq ft base is ready for my bedding sand and I’ve been planning on doing it the way you described but then came across this video 😆.
@@_Moto215go watch him. He shows pretty much how I have been taught. It works. Its the real professional way in my opinion. ruclips.net/video/dDN60f587oQ/видео.html
@BRG, I was told by my in laws to my east (they have a landscape business) that they use the same process as the Dirt Monkey. This was back in 2017 when I was asking how to go about laying 2100 sq foot of pavers around front patio and pool. Instead of explaining they said to watch Stan, that is how they do it as well. I had to hire for some excavation (we also had retaining walls with 4 by 2 by 2 blocks) and they were happy to dig down to 17 inches total below final grade for me. I live in central NY state. Had two layers of compacting material for a total of 14 inches, then used an inch of concrete sand and screws rails for the bed. No issues so far. Stan’s crew is working in MN so they definitely have to lay it down properly to prevent frost heave.
If you want to make sure that a large surface is square you shouldn't use 30-40cm square tool. You need to measure the diagonals, and if they are equal you have the 90 degrees angle.
Or use Pythagorean theorem, 3’ 4’ 5’ triangle. From the corner pull 3’ then on the long leg you pull 4’. Pull your tape diagonally across to connect those two points and if they connect at exactly 5’ then your angle is 90 degrees. Obviously it scales; the bigger the legs on your 90, the bigger you’re gonna want to go with your short and long legs. For example a 6’ 8’ 10’ or 18’ 24’ 30’ all work the same way, just are better for bigger areas.
the sand base should never be thicker than 1 inch. use a 1 inch pvc pipe or similar that is perfectly level and pitched how you want then screed the sand using the two pipes as a guide. if the sand is perfectly level as it should be then you can simply place the pavers without hitting them with the mallet which disturbs and shifts the sand. install the locking edge then run a compacter over the pavers to set them in place and follow up with the locking sand. these tricks and vital info not shown in this video will not only save you hours of labor but will also create a longer lasting patio, walkway or whatever.
@@danvandenboogaard Ran tamper over pavers no problem couple summers ago. What would be a way they could shatter? Thinner stone? Was using 2 in pavers, never had a problem.
@@EthanStites Thickness of the paver, size of the tamper, quality of the paver...all of these could be factors. There's also the risk of scraping the surface of your pavers with a running tamper. I once worked with a crew that grabbed a large cardboard sheet and put the tamper on top of the cardboard to protect the pavers. We then pulled the cardboard sheet along (almost like a sled) and the tamper with it. It really helped to settle everything nicely while still protecting the pavers.
I love the pavers, love the process. Can't really wrap my brain around why you would leave that little patch of grass by the door though. Bring that patio all the way to the foundation and all the way to the edge of the house. Guaranteed they will go back later and fix that!
I probably would have cut the distance in half on both sides and left room for some plants but i agree that I'm not feeling those big spaces right next to the door or the overall small footprint of the patio.
I dont understand why they didnt just square it up with the patio and side of house. Its gonna be awkward having a grill and other things on that little paver patio. My guess is the labor was done for free but only for what This Old House dictated and not what the home owners actually would want.
You don't want to pack the sand until after you've laid your pavers otherwise the sand won't shoot upward into the joints from the bottom which is essential to the interlock
These guys are gangsters! They made that pregnant woman shovel that dirt! I did a small area in my back yardage had to take lots of breaks, it’s hard on your back... then Christy came back and spread the sand and hosed down the pavers!! “Ok”, what a trooper.
Before and after the war my father built his own house back in the 1940’s. My mother was his labourer, she was pregnant with her first child at the time. She gave birth without a hitch to what was a healthy baby and it was in wartime too. So don’t go pampering pregnant women jist because you feel sorry for them, they can do a lot more than you would imagine as long as they are healthy that is. And my mother then gave birth to my older sister then to me the youngest born in the 1950’s, she loied a good long life passing away just 3 years ago in 2019 at 98 years old.
1" pipe on top of the limestone to confirm a 1" bed of sand under the paver, you can put 2 down at about 4' apart and go down sliding the pipe as you go and tapping down if needed, then go back up and do your next run, when putting the pavers in drop some sand in the grooves and smooth with trowel
if you need that info explained to you, you are the wrong person to do this. Cost will depend on the product used, the size of the patio and whether or not you have a potato puppet in the white house intentionally destroying the economy.
here in Tampa Bay Area the paver co. says they use crush concrete (fine) on top of packed soil. They lay the pavers directly on that crushed concrete. and of course fill in with fine sand.
I love how the patio foundation went from shovels of uneven dirt to automatically leveling itself out by running a compactor over it......in reality this takes a while along with the sand leveling, you need to layout a weed fabric sheet, otherwise you’ll have a grass patio in one or two years.
I was wondering about that. Not sure why they didnt use one but maybe since the tiles are butted up together and stakes were driven along each edge piece they wont have gaps in the future. The sand/grout may hold up and keep dirt out enough that weeds can't grow. I havent seen them do a bunch of half @ss stuff on this show so ill give them the benefit of the doubt but i too was wondering why they didn't put any fabric underneath.
I agree, also, where did the soil go they excavated? Somehow it magicaly disappeared. If they showed that in the video would have taken 16 minutes 😅...... Incredibly unrealistic!!
@@dogsense3773 Utter nonsense. Talk to any woman who found herself unexpectedly pregnant and tried to end the pregnancy via running, jumping, high impact sports etc. It doesn't work. My mother-in-law helped roof the house right up to the day before she gave birth to my first wife. Women are far tougher than you care to admit, and the days when women were 'confined' for the sake of the baby are long, long gone.
I always recommend the patio to go right off the house to prevent future foundation damage from water. And I use stoned dust instead of yellow sand but both work. And using 3/4 inch pipes would make it easier to level the sand.
@@johnl.5046 it’s just for the leveling sot it’s only about 1/2 in to 1 in thick and remover you have the QP under which is basically stone dust mixed with gravel. If you want to Go over and beyond you can always use concrete sand which is the most recommended or mix the stone dust with some Portland
I always use 3/4 clear for my base, quarter chip or hpb for my bedding layer. Always grade the pad without screed rails, just me and a 6 foot level. That’s the way I learned and when you’re working in tricky yard where you don’t exactly have a flat consistent path you want water to go you are able to manipulate your grade easier to create swales and pathways for your water to end up where you want it. I’ve had more than a few jobs where another company installed a pool at the wrong height and I have to do the landscaping around it and get very creative with my grade to say the least
There is more than one way to skin a cat. I never use sand under pavers, I use what is called tailings (the fines from the manufacturer of gravel.) I put down a 3/4 inch level layer, install the pavers, then I tamp.
In my area where frost goes down 3 feet I would have to dig down that far and pack gravel in about 6 levels. It works well for me so I know they stay flat
In a different video I watched they laid out two long metal electrical conduits (make sure they're not bowed!). These act as a straight-edge for the screed board. They leveled the conduits at the proper drainage pitch and slid their screed board across the conduits. That technique resulted in a perfect distribution of the sand. After completing one section, one of the conduits got moved to the next section and screeding continued.
Robert Baumann that’s how you do it, it’s a must. I just did one last night and it makes the sand perfectly even the whole way for which you can lay onto. Also use a tamper with a rubber pad sets it level and deep, some guys use plywood if it’s got a steel tamper base.
I believe the BASE (Crusher Run) should be slightly off level in order to shed water away from the house. Leveling the sand won't have much affect when the polymeric sand wears away and water seeps between the pavers and just sits in the sand until it evaporates. It's sort of like installing a shower pan with no pre-slope.
That compacted sand layer and the screeded sand layer, - you should be explaining the difference of the reason for doing those two layers of sand differently. And, did you address the depth of the sand, both in total and separately, - compacted sand and screeded sand layers.
A lot of good information but a few things not mentioned that would have been helpful. How many total inches of base do you put down for a patio? Do you compact it every couple of inches? How many inches of sand did you put down?
The squaring and setting the lines i just cant understand for some reason lol, id love to try to do my own patio. One thing about the polymer sand i learned when fixing my front pavers, dont leave any on the surface of the pavers when you spray/activate it!
I saw this episode. I was floored when an 80-100 sq ft patio was suggested. That's a waste of time. The space was larger enough for at least a 15x15 or 250 sq ft.
Likely because they already have a deck and they said they still want to have green space for the kids to run. Looks like they don’t need a big patio. Generally it’s also good to minimize impermeable surfaces to avoid water damage to your home.
Sand below is for leveling the pavers. The polymeric sand that was brushed on top has a binding agent in it. Once wet, the agent activates and locks the pavers in place. What they failed to do, including adding landscape fabric, was after the polymeric sand is added, you have to tamp it down to ensure it reaches the bottom and fills the gaps completely, add more if needed, then blow off the excess with a leaf blower. You cannot leave any sand on top of the pavers. Then lightly sprinkle with water. She was applying too much water IMO.
No geotextile fabric between subsoil and base material? No 1" pipe for screet? No strings to align the pavers? How does he calculate the pitch? Just by eyeballing?
Icpi standard is 4" 3/4 minus and no more than 1 inch of sand. However I recommend 6" of base. Most papers are also 2 3/8 inch so about 9 inches is plenty
How deep does everything need to be? I live in North Central TX. 7” deep total? 3” for the stone pack? Then 1” of sand and the rest is pavers? Please elaborate! Thank you!
I've used many and haven't had problems. Make sure to sweep it into the seems well. And lightly wet it. Slowly and make sure you do it on a warm sunny day so it has enough warmth to cure quickly
How to avoid vehicle's take turn on my pavers is there a good idea which make good pavers for my house and tougher for others may be elevated, thankyou
I use a concrete saw, there are also large miter saws with diamond blades, guillotines, circular saws with diamond or asphalt blades, and even grinders with diamond blades
Roughly $3-12 per square foot for pavers depending what you choose (prices per state very greatly). Guessing with tool rental, pavers, sand, 2 layers of fill… $2k-4K
@Robert Casey Are there any better videos out there that do show all of that? I’m looking to do a similar job in my yard but a lot smaller. It’s just a 4-foot walkway. Looking for the right video tutorial.
Dirt monkey genadek on RUclips has plenty of videos on this. Your leveling sand base is not supposed to be compacted and almost all paves recommend no more than 1 in of leveling sand. Always use what the manufacturer recommends. This will ensure your pavers are under warranty.
Do you really think you needed the plastic edging? Being that they were recessed into the ground a bit, the ground would hold them in just as well if pushed up against them and tamped down.
Man, these guys are good. I took me a couple of days to install my pavers. They did the job in less than 8 minutes.
Im going on 3 weeks lol
I had the playback speed in x2. They did it in 4 mins!
Next time get yourself a pregnant person to help lol
Did you think of this all by yourself?
We got a comedian here huh. Lol
It’s a good practice to use a leaf blower to blow off any polymeric sand from the top of the pavers before wetting it in. If not, you’ll get a haze on the pavers.
Just don't allow any old geezers to run that blower. If you do, they'll be doing it the best part of the day.
If you use a blower or broom, wear a mask as that sand is harmful to your lungs
Yes they will put on suck and grattify themselves.
Great idea! Blow microplastics all over the yard!
@danielmcardle3476 polymeric sand is a mix of different minerals and shouldn't include any plastics
This old house reminds me of my Dad. You guys are amazing just like he was.. Stay handsome fellas.
You will be missed Dad
My pop used to watch it on PBS all the time when I was growing up, he did everything around the house except electrical stuff.
Brutal install. Use some rails to guide your screed bar. Don’t pre compact your sand. Don’t waste your time with the mallet. Install the pavers, sweep them in and then run the compactor over the whole thing. Sweep again to fill the joints. Blow off the surface with a leaf blower to remove any residue prior to watering.
Why no compact the sand?
Ok to hand tamp pavers then with a pad? I don’t want to rent a compactor again smh
@@johnwilkins3995you could, but it won’t be as effective as a compactor. A 250lbs compactor is about ideal. Expect your paver to settle about 1/4” on a 1” sand bedding base.
Once the grass grows back in around the pavers it will look even better.
Very helpful for the patio I'm doing. Been doing a lot of digging and leveling but wanted to watch something before doing my base layer and laying pavers. Greatly appreciated!
they dont know what they are doing in few week they will start having weeds they did not put anything to prevent that
I know some of you may think just scraping the sand with the screed like this is fine, but for the last 10 years, i have always used 1 inch screed pipe guides. Making sure its all level perfectly.
Do you compact your sand. I didn’t think you had to.
@@_Moto215 in 10 years, ive never compacted sand. Lol. With using 1 inch steel pipes for guides and a metal screed bar or very straight 2×4 or whatever. Using the guides and screeds kinda acts as the compactor. I havrnt had any problems with settling of uneveness in 10 years. So I would think im doing something right
B R G Thanks! I’m sure you are. My 600 sq ft base is ready for my bedding sand and I’ve been planning on doing it the way you described but then came across this video 😆.
@@_Moto215go watch him. He shows pretty much how I have been taught. It works. Its the real professional way in my opinion. ruclips.net/video/dDN60f587oQ/видео.html
@BRG, I was told by my in laws to my east (they have a landscape business) that they use the same process as the Dirt Monkey. This was back in 2017 when I was asking how to go about laying 2100 sq foot of pavers around front patio and pool. Instead of explaining they said to watch Stan, that is how they do it as well. I had to hire for some excavation (we also had retaining walls with 4 by 2 by 2 blocks) and they were happy to dig down to 17 inches total below final grade for me. I live in central NY state. Had two layers of compacting material for a total of 14 inches, then used an inch of concrete sand and screws rails for the bed. No issues so far. Stan’s crew is working in MN so they definitely have to lay it down properly to prevent frost heave.
If you want to make sure that a large surface is square you shouldn't use 30-40cm square tool. You need to measure the diagonals, and if they are equal you have the 90 degrees angle.
Or from one corner, mark 3 feet on one side, 4 feet on the other side and you should have 5 feet between those 2 marks.
Or use Pythagorean theorem, 3’ 4’ 5’ triangle. From the corner pull 3’ then on the long leg you pull 4’. Pull your tape diagonally across to connect those two points and if they connect at exactly 5’ then your angle is 90 degrees. Obviously it scales; the bigger the legs on your 90, the bigger you’re gonna want to go with your short and long legs. For example a 6’ 8’ 10’ or 18’ 24’ 30’ all work the same way, just are better for bigger areas.
I was thinking that too never seen a professional carry a 2ft framing square 😂😂
I always measure corner to corner. That's going to be the most accurate method for squaring.
@@SheistTdoes it have to be exact? Mine is off by like 5 inches but I can’t tell which corner is askew! Help!
the sand base should never be thicker than 1 inch. use a 1 inch pvc pipe or similar that is perfectly level and pitched how you want then screed the sand using the two pipes as a guide. if the sand is perfectly level as it should be then you can simply place the pavers without hitting them with the mallet which disturbs and shifts the sand. install the locking edge then run a compacter over the pavers to set them in place and follow up with the locking sand. these tricks and vital info not shown in this video will not only save you hours of labor but will also create a longer lasting patio, walkway or whatever.
Running a compactor/tamper over your pavers is an excellent way to shatter your pavers if you don't know what you're doing.
Doesn’t have to be 1 inch. Can be 3/4 or even 1/2 inch as well
This is the comment I came for. When I saw them compact the sand base I exclaimed loudly. The girlfriend came running to see what was wrong. Haha
@@danvandenboogaard Ran tamper over pavers no problem couple summers ago. What would be a way they could shatter? Thinner stone? Was using 2 in pavers, never had a problem.
@@EthanStites Thickness of the paver, size of the tamper, quality of the paver...all of these could be factors. There's also the risk of scraping the surface of your pavers with a running tamper.
I once worked with a crew that grabbed a large cardboard sheet and put the tamper on top of the cardboard to protect the pavers. We then pulled the cardboard sheet along (almost like a sled) and the tamper with it. It really helped to settle everything nicely while still protecting the pavers.
I love the pavers, love the process. Can't really wrap my brain around why you would leave that little patch of grass by the door though. Bring that patio all the way to the foundation and all the way to the edge of the house. Guaranteed they will go back later and fix that!
Guaranteed? I'd prefer a small planting bed, instead.
I probably would have cut the distance in half on both sides and left room for some plants but i agree that I'm not feeling those big spaces right next to the door or the overall small footprint of the patio.
Exactly, where’s his grill going to be placed?
@@dacast10 my thoughts exactly.
I dont understand why they didnt just square it up with the patio and side of house. Its gonna be awkward having a grill and other things on that little paver patio. My guess is the labor was done for free but only for what This Old House dictated and not what the home owners actually would want.
This is the first place I've seen where they compact the setting bed of sand.
You don't want to pack the sand until after you've laid your pavers otherwise the sand won't shoot upward into the joints from the bottom which is essential to the interlock
@@codyralston2576 how do you compact it after you've laid them?
Wish they showed the initial method to ensure the subsoil was level. I'll assume same method as the sand. Great job and finished product! :)
These guys are gangsters! They made that pregnant woman shovel that dirt! I did a small area in my back yardage had to take lots of breaks, it’s hard on your back... then Christy came back and spread the sand and hosed down the pavers!! “Ok”, what a trooper.
LMFAO!!! That plad shirt and shaved head is a dead give away where I come from
Before and after the war my father built his own house back in the 1940’s. My mother was his labourer, she was pregnant with her first child at the time. She gave birth without a hitch to what was a healthy baby and it was in wartime too. So don’t go pampering pregnant women jist because you feel sorry for them, they can do a lot more than you would imagine as long as they are healthy that is. And my mother then gave birth to my older sister then to me the youngest born in the 1950’s, she loied a good long life passing away just 3 years ago in 2019 at 98 years old.
they didn't make her. But I get what you are saying. She can shovel tho its not dangerous for a pregnant woman.
@@TripReviews They don't make em like they used too! That goes for both men and women!
Rent a Kubota mini backhoe from Home Cheapo.
I watched a lot of videos on this and this is the best one for me. Very simple concepts and clear execution. Thank you, This Old House!
1" pipe on top of the limestone to confirm a 1" bed of sand under the paver, you can put 2 down at about 4' apart and go down sliding the pipe as you go and tapping down if needed, then go back up and do your next run, when putting the pavers in drop some sand in the grooves and smooth with trowel
Thank you for listing all details like cost, time and level of difficulty etc. Very helpful info!
if you need that info explained to you, you are the wrong person to do this. Cost will depend on the product used, the size of the patio and whether or not you have a potato puppet in the white house intentionally destroying the economy.
I can’t find where that info is listed? That’s exactly what I was looking for. Where did you find that?
@@lyndsaydowney6593that’s the joke, they didn’t share that info
Checking for square with a framing square. Pretty funny. This Old Amateur Hour....lol
Mark: So I've discovered the meaning of life, and it's fascinating.
Christie: *ok*
a woman with little to say. they dont make them like this anymore
Crazy thought here: maybe she's camera-shy, and her husband is the extroverted one.
@@oldbird299 They do. Outside of USA. They can cook too!
Joe Kinchicken it’s ur generation that let them out of the kitchen
I know right, that's a perfect woman
one step missing .. fabric to block weeds before the layer of gravel .... excellent video ! i may have used a sod cutter to ease the dig in ....
Correction fabric needs to be layered 2x or even 3x, life is stubborn.
Polymer sand
@@robertzanetti6351 polymer sand? I hope its not made of pfas.
It's all about the prep, thanks Roger can still remember you telling us that 👍👍👍
here in Tampa Bay Area the paver co. says they use crush concrete (fine) on top of packed soil. They lay the pavers directly on that crushed concrete. and of course fill in with fine sand.
@Hello Mark how are you doing
I was just about to start working on this and I'm glad I saw this video. This will help me alot
The pregnant woman digging come on lol
I was like why is she digging lol
Equal opportunity employer
Most doctors say that a healthy pregnant women should continue her exercise. Plus im sure she moved 2 shovels of dirt just for the camera lol
She's not handicap, she's pregnant.
Real woman !! And sexy
I love how the patio foundation went from shovels of uneven dirt to automatically leveling itself out by running a compactor over it......in reality this takes a while along with the sand leveling, you need to layout a weed fabric sheet, otherwise you’ll have a grass patio in one or two years.
I sure was wondering why they didn place that down about the weed fabric
I was wondering about that. Not sure why they didnt use one but maybe since the tiles are butted up together and stakes were driven along each edge piece they wont have gaps in the future. The sand/grout may hold up and keep dirt out enough that weeds can't grow.
I havent seen them do a bunch of half @ss stuff on this show so ill give them the benefit of the doubt but i too was wondering why they didn't put any fabric underneath.
I agree, also, where did the soil go they excavated? Somehow it magicaly disappeared. If they showed that in the video would have taken 16 minutes 😅...... Incredibly unrealistic!!
Nobody ever shows how to completely level the sub base... probably because it takes forever
Where to put the weed fabric sheet? After sand before tiles or before adding the leveling sand?
I love this guy. He looks like the villain in 7th Voyage of Sinbad.
Pregnant woman digging and working love it!
Lol I was thinking the same thing!
Good way to lose a baby!
I had many questions 😅
That's a huge no-no in the military! A pregnant Soldier aren't even allowed to pick up a broom lol!
@@dogsense3773 Utter nonsense. Talk to any woman who found herself unexpectedly pregnant and tried to end the pregnancy via running, jumping, high impact sports etc. It doesn't work. My mother-in-law helped roof the house right up to the day before she gave birth to my first wife. Women are far tougher than you care to admit, and the days when women were 'confined' for the sake of the baby are long, long gone.
Always great watching these guys in action, they’re the best!
Perfect timing! Been digging for the past few weekends getting ready for an extension of our patio. Thank you for this helpful video!
I always recommend the patio to go right off the house to prevent future foundation damage from water. And I use stoned dust instead of yellow sand but both work. And using 3/4 inch pipes would make it easier to level the sand.
Doesn't stone dust absorb more water, shifting pavers in the process ?
@@johnl.5046 it’s just for the leveling sot it’s only about 1/2 in to 1 in thick and remover you have the QP under which is basically stone dust mixed with gravel. If you want to Go over and beyond you can always use concrete sand which is the most recommended or mix the stone dust with some Portland
I always use 3/4 clear for my base, quarter chip or hpb for my bedding layer. Always grade the pad without screed rails, just me and a 6 foot level. That’s the way I learned and when you’re working in tricky yard where you don’t exactly have a flat consistent path you want water to go you are able to manipulate your grade easier to create swales and pathways for your water to end up where you want it. I’ve had more than a few jobs where another company installed a pool at the wrong height and I have to do the landscaping around it and get very creative with my grade to say the least
I searched for paving techniques but this highly pregnant woman working so hard turned it into such a suspenseful episode! 😂😂
Interesting to see the sand compacted first instead of screeding 1" of sand, laying the pavers, and then compacting them after.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. I never use sand under pavers, I use what is called tailings (the fines from the manufacturer of gravel.) I put down a 3/4 inch level layer, install the pavers, then I tamp.
I tend to agree I feel like your interlock wouldn't be as strong
In my area where frost goes down 3 feet I would have to dig down that far and pack gravel in about 6 levels. It works well for me so I know they stay flat
When you screet you should put something inside the sand that you can run across with a board making the grade more even
In a different video I watched they laid out two long metal electrical conduits (make sure they're not bowed!). These act as a straight-edge for the screed board. They leveled the conduits at the proper drainage pitch and slid their screed board across the conduits. That technique resulted in a perfect distribution of the sand. After completing one section, one of the conduits got moved to the next section and screeding continued.
Robert Baumann that’s how you do it, it’s a must. I just did one last night and it makes the sand perfectly even the whole way for which you can lay onto. Also use a tamper with a rubber pad sets it level and deep, some guys use plywood if it’s got a steel tamper base.
Screeding both directions with a level gives you the best results, the conduit tip is fine but it's a tip for your average joe DIYer to use
Is it best to put the plastic rails on after all bricks are situated or should you square up the rails and then the bricks in the template..?
I believe the BASE (Crusher Run) should be slightly off level in order to shed water away from the house. Leveling the sand won't have much affect when the polymeric sand wears away and water seeps between the pavers and just sits in the sand until it evaporates. It's sort of like installing a shower pan with no pre-slope.
I've been living in the south for the last couple years, god do I miss brown dirt :(
yeah all i got is red clay lol
@@awar-bb5ru if it makes you feel better I live up north and only have brown clay lol
That compacted sand layer and the screeded sand layer, - you should be explaining the difference of the reason for doing those two layers of sand differently. And, did you address the depth of the sand, both in total and separately, - compacted sand and screeded sand layers.
How much did it cost to buy all materials in this video? I am planning to do my backyard the same thing
A lot of good information but a few things not mentioned that would have been helpful. How many total inches of base do you put down for a patio? Do you compact it every couple of inches? How many inches of sand did you put down?
No less than six inches of stone and no more than an inch of sand. Compact very often
I love it We just bought our first house and its old house and need a lot projects we don’t know where we start
I like to use the Wacker to set in the polymetric. Then and more and and wack again.
He makes it look so easy!
Would love to see a video using the brock paverbase system.
The squaring and setting the lines i just cant understand for some reason lol, id love to try to do my own patio. One thing about the polymer sand i learned when fixing my front pavers, dont leave any on the surface of the pavers when you spray/activate it!
I saw this episode. I was floored when an 80-100 sq ft patio was suggested. That's a waste of time. The space was larger enough for at least a 15x15 or 250 sq ft.
agree .. Why do all of that labor … for such a small area ?
Likely because they already have a deck and they said they still want to have green space for the kids to run. Looks like they don’t need a big patio. Generally it’s also good to minimize impermeable surfaces to avoid water damage to your home.
I agree, looks like a postage stamp in the yard. I suspect the paver install size was a function of the time allotted for filming the episode
What was the sand below the pavers for?
What was the ‘polymer sand’ for ? Couldn’t one just leave the pager as they were ?
Sand below is for leveling the pavers. The polymeric sand that was brushed on top has a binding agent in it. Once wet, the agent activates and locks the pavers in place.
What they failed to do, including adding landscape fabric, was after the polymeric sand is added, you have to tamp it down to ensure it reaches the bottom and fills the gaps completely, add more if needed, then blow off the excess with a leaf blower. You cannot leave any sand on top of the pavers. Then lightly sprinkle with water. She was applying too much water IMO.
Must be nice doing this up north. Down in the south, I would have gone thru 3 or 4 shirts
You have to love a pregnant mama digging for her pavers! 😄👍
Wow nice 👍 so the sand bonds them together I guess 😎
All videos I’ve seen have the perfect flat surface , are there any where there is an existing slope on the property ?
That’s what I’m working on. You dig into the slope and put a retaining wall in. I got a mini excavator to help out.
Use whatever you cut out and then use it to bring your grade up
Alternatives to the power compactor? I'm thinking I'll use a sledgehammer and a 1 foot square chunk of wood. Thoughts?
how many laborers do they have off camera
So , why didn’t they extend the patio to the corners of the house/foundation? It looks weird to me.
Riddim yes and also it looks very small
Or at least fill in those notches of grass that they left by the foundation.
yea wouldn't you want space for a table, some chairs, etc? i dont know...
They are most likely going to do some sort of landscaping in those areas I'm assuming
Mark has some great suggestions, hard to find in a contractor who doesn't typically go in that direction.
looks good, although i would have made it bigger for the BBQ
"This old house" be finessing home owners into Free "labor"....😂😂😂😂
Lol 😄
That was the point of the show in the beginning
1 more Question - what is the best way to remove stains from these pavers ? We have patio stain marks on our pavers.
How did they get the pavers nice and tight under the patio wood posts?
The corner posts
So you just going to make the pregnant lady work that hard 😂
This is labour intensive work. I have been thinking about becoming a landscaper but I don't know if I will thrive.
My friend, you will thrive like a bee in a hive
No geotextile fabric between subsoil and base material? No 1" pipe for screet? No strings to align the pavers? How does he calculate the pitch? Just by eyeballing?
1:12 "we feed off of that" what a putz
Haha putz
I dont like sand for a base it never stays always washes out and pavers sink, stone dust better.
You can use minimal amount of sand for leveling only.
@@SnowRover not me stone dust much better
Question: why are you compacting the sand before installation of the pavers? Also, couldn’t you use the Pythagorean theorem (3-4-5) to get it square?
Does the polymer sand prevent weeds from growing in-between the grooves?
8:05 - 🎼 "My Buddy, My Buddy...My Buddy and Me" 🎼
Aren't conduit tubing normally used to level the sand base? How come you didn't tamp the pavers after putting the sand down?
I'm guessing because they tamped the sand before the pavers? Bad form from what I was taught.
So 9" depth and I missed how deep the sand needs to be and how high above ground level the pavers are suppose to be.
about 2 inches of sand but again how far down you go depends on where you live.
Icpi standard is 4" 3/4 minus and no more than 1 inch of sand. However I recommend 6" of base. Most papers are also 2 3/8 inch so about 9 inches is plenty
What should the thickness be for the sand and crushed stone be
Follow the manufacturer recommendations on the pavers you purchased.
Sand should be no more than 1".any more and it won't compact properly
Great video. And nice work editing out the groans from back pain. 😂
07:11 is one bag of polymer sand enough for that size project
if only he already had some kind of wooden structure that he could put his grill on...
These types of videos can be cringe as hell lol
lol first thing I thought. Good sized deck that he’s ignoring
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What if I needed more height say 20 inches to match the patio door opening can I go 2 or 3 pavers high or more?
How deep does everything need to be? I live in North Central TX. 7” deep total? 3” for the stone pack? Then 1” of sand and the rest is pavers? Please elaborate! Thank you!
Does the area need to be covered with the duty weed control fabric first?
Yes, they forgot. Weeds will come out eventually.
3:10 i thought a bobcat was going to do the digging :)
You made it look so easy.
I have not had good luck with the polymer sand. Paid for expensive stuff and still washed out in 1 year. Any suggestions on brand?
I've used many and haven't had problems. Make sure to sweep it into the seems well. And lightly wet it. Slowly and make sure you do it on a warm sunny day so it has enough warmth to cure quickly
theonlyrealcdub thanks. Yeah I pretty much did as you said but have since moved. I’m sure at the next house this will come in handy
How to avoid vehicle's take turn on my pavers is there a good idea which make good pavers for my house and tougher for others may be elevated, thankyou
I would have wanted it bigger and cover more area. That just doesn't look good.
Lady's a trooper.
Beautiful job! Love these videos and this channel!!
And in the end they had a lumpy patio where the table and chairs always wobbled
🤣🤣🤣
Truth ! and lucky like 13 !
Lol Awesome video, I just thought it was funny, “and which way is the bubble gonna go this time,” goes the opposite way
Stay Calm and watch Mike Haduck. Maybe a real learning experience
“No big deal, we’ll get it done.” I love watching Mike!
@Hello John how are you doing
Question - how do you replace few blocks ?
At 7:41 the stone seems to be cut into the porch. How did you cut it in? Thanks.
I use a concrete saw, there are also large miter saws with diamond blades, guillotines, circular saws with diamond or asphalt blades, and even grinders with diamond blades
So I assume that the sand and stone dust will keep any weeds from growing in between the cracks of the pavers? No plastic layer needed?
Yes, but I think they also recommend a weed barrier if you don’t have a gravel base
I add mortar mix to the sand, and then screed it off. I let it sit overnight and the sand is hard as concrete, but you can still work it.
Before putting the pavers?
Finally showed the project completed!
I feel like she should’ve worked harder
Hahahaha.. poor lady
She’s literally pregnant ?
@@princessleia209 ?????
@@princessleia209 No of course not .Covid weight gain 😂
How deep? How thick stone layer? How were the first two layers leveled? How thick sand layer? Please add details. TY
What price range can be expected for a project like this?
Excellent question
Roughly $3-12 per square foot for pavers depending what you choose (prices per state very greatly). Guessing with tool rental, pavers, sand, 2 layers of fill… $2k-4K
Didn't show much details on leveling, or how deep the gravel and sand should be. On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it a 3.
Amen. Missing crucial details.
@Robert Casey
Are there any better videos out there that do show all of that? I’m looking to do a similar job in my yard but a lot smaller. It’s just a 4-foot walkway. Looking for the right video tutorial.
Dirt monkey genadek on RUclips has plenty of videos on this. Your leveling sand base is not supposed to be compacted and almost all paves recommend no more than 1 in of leveling sand. Always use what the manufacturer recommends. This will ensure your pavers are under warranty.
I guess I should figure it out the deck painting, I did mine horrible!!
Will this work on a very sloped driveway?
This was incredibly helpful! Thank you!
Great video. Well explained and simple.
Do you really think you needed the plastic edging? Being that they were recessed into the ground a bit, the ground would hold them in just as well if pushed up against them and tamped down.
That actually looks good