So wait, did a rapper "steal" this sample or did a rock band's raggedy management sell away the rights to the sample for dramatically less than it was worth because they underestimated the success the rapper would have with it?
First things first... It's not "stolen". Tone Loc paid TWICE for using the sample. Second, Eddie didn't want it with Loc - he would have gotten DESTROYED that night. He should be thankful for the mercy he was shown that night.
Yeah I think dude is underestimating tone loc lol. Isn't he a legit Southside Compton crip? Although that story about Eddie pulling up on Fred durst is pretty wild too 😂. Sounds like it would've been an interesting stand off to say the least I guess
The song was not stolen. I don’t why Adam keeps saying the song was stolen. The bands beef should’ve been with their manager that received 5k for allowing the usage of the song, just as he states in the video!
As a nightclub DJ from the 1970s through the mid 1990s, I recall playing Jamie’s Crying a lot in the’70s. It always packed the dance floor. When “Wild Thing” by Tone Lōc was first released to nightclub DJs in 1988, I immediately recognized that riff from Van Halen’s “Jamie’s Crying” in the song, and I immediately integrated the Van Halen song into Tone Lōc’s “Wild Thing” every time I played it. I would mix the VH tune into the beat breaks and either start the mix by playing “Jamie’s Crying” or mix out of Wild Thing with Jamie’s Crying, along with the VH mixed into the beat breaks. Sometimes I would start the medley with Jamie’s Crying, mix into Wild Thing, then mix out back into Jamie’s Crying again at the end of Wild Thing. It was a real crowd pleaser.
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when friend was a club dj sometimes he did now they call mash up one i recall he would have herbie hancock mega mix i have it today and the radio edit single om the dual then after intro put on a mega mix then back to edit another i recall stones miss you he mixed in looking for a friend intro
This story right here is why I am ALL FOR sampling (as long as proper permission is acquired and the original artists are compensated). "Wild Thing" introduced me to "Jamie's Cryin'," and this is just ONE example of me being introduced to source material because of a sample. In fact, I very likely wouldn't know of one of my favorite artists (Average White Band) if it were not for samples. I poured over liner notes and sample credits of my favorite hip hop albums so that I could track down the original sample source.
Why the hell is this video 20 minutes long? I just want to hear the story of the song being sampled... So much talking about VH that should be a different video.
Honestly, im kind of on your side on this. Normally, I'd say something similar to the other dude who replied, but in this case, it's not "adhd," lol. I came into it thinking we would hear about the story of the sample and instead sat through a history lesson on van halen first, just to stretch the video. I didn't mind, but did feel like a lot of it was there just for filler to make the video longer and had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the video@@BubbaHubba-zy2kf
In the late 80s I had a Mustang II that I had Installed a cassette player in. My five and nine year old daughters and I would blast Jamie’s Crying and sing at the top of of our lungs! Great memories.
More than backup for Hagar-era VH: the vocals in the live shows would’ve been flat without him and the way he could pick up seamlessly from Sammy, keeping the dynamics
I have a great memory of Jamie's Crying. We were in the car when I was very young, and my mom was just belting out the chorus while my little sister plugged her ears! I still laugh about it years later. The solo in the song is just out of this world. Nothing else like it existed in rock music. This started my lifelong love affair with Van Halen. I miss this band so much.
Nothing like walking down the street with friends and Van Halen blasting out of all the cars driving by. The days when you either heard it on the radio or cassette if you were out of the house and away from the record player.
How about walking down the school hall and hearing someone wail "Nobody rules the streets at night but me! Nobody! WAAAAUGGGHHGHGH!" Then someone would reply "The Atomic Punk!"
yeh everyone had the record and would hear scholl.parking lot kids in parents hand me down cars us friends olders bros 64 valient they put homemade box speakers in the back cheap 6 inch in the doors fm radio and 8 track amp under the seat could be a funny youtube video but damned if the old clunker didnt rock lift up back seat old cooler still there where you put the six pack haha
As a VH fan, I don't know about the impact, but for a debut album Guns 'N Roses album Appetite for Destruction with well over 30 million in sales has to be mentioned. Sweet Child o' Mine, Welcome to the Jungle, Paradise City, and more.
I never heard of Van Halen until 1984 when on vacation my two year old and five year old sons were jumping off a retaining wall at a restaurant in Knoxville and singing, “ jump, might as well jump” over and over, two year old more animated than five year old, I asked where they heard that song and they said MTV I told them that they weren’t allowed to watch MTV , that’s when I found out what my boys were doing while I was doing housework, lol, I sat with them one day and together we watched some videos and I was blown away by Van Halen. My Beautiful Grandmother was partial to country music and especially Alan Jackson, one day I heard her listening to Van Halen, she was in her late 80s and loved them, Van Halen bridged many a generation gap. Thanks for the great show, loved it, EVH driving a tank carrying a gun, yeah, I can see that.
I remember being at a birthday party and MTV was on the TV -- a luxury as my house did not have cable yet -- and the veejay (Martha Quinn?) challenged the viewer to count the number of wardrobe changes from David Lee Roth in the video. They played it and we counted every time his clothes changed. 8? 10? I'll have to go watch it again and start counting. 🤣
You don't know Tone. I went to high school with him. They didn't call him "Loco" for nothing. He is a real gangster. A real killer. The kind that rappers talk about when they talk about the O.G.'s. And he was always strapped and never rolled solo. I love Eddie but it would not have ended well at the time.
My names Jimmy. I helped raise my niece from birth to 18. I did all i could to introduce her to music. And for whatever reason, she still relates "jamies crying" to me. Shes currently 34 yrs old
Swedish rocker Yngwie Malmsteen said that he and his friends were sitting around, listing to music and someone brought in the Van Halen debut album. He said it was like a bomb went off; everyone was blown away. Check out Rick Beato's interview with same.
I recall hearing VH one Saturday morning coming home from a sleep over. Got home grabbed my bike off to the record shop with no song or no band name. Walking into store, I said I heard this song on the radio, hear you go VH.
MC Hammer was one of the few rap acts that actually gave the writers credit along with himself or whoever helped create unique parts of the song. He use "Super Freak" by Rick James. Rick told his manager not to give permission for this, but his manager allowed without Rick's consent. While Rick was preparing to take Hammer to court, he started getting the royalty checks for U Can't Touch This, and he decided not to sue. He was making more from the song via the sample than he did from the original run.
Hammer is a crook. He was stealing song credits from his producers/songwriters. I know, because I witnessed the whole thing. As per "Super Freak", being used for "You Can't Touch This" - that is not a sample. Hammer's producers, real musicians, my brother James "Jae-E" Earley being one of them - replayed the song. It's a cover version, not a sample. BTW, my brother taught Flea how to play bass slap style. They had been in School Band Orchestra with each other - and Flea was playing in the woodwind section - while my brother was on something else. I'd have to ask him. Further, Slash used to be in my brother's Funk/Reggae band. They all went to Fairfax High School together. Post-high school, Tom Morello would join another of my brother's bands...and Jason Nesmith...Michael Nesmith's son...who went on to form the band Nancy Boy. Later, after leaving Hammer for stealing from him (we are talking millions), my brother would work with Matt Dike and Jimmy Iovine on a Robin Zander solo song. Jimmy employed them, as he was attempting to learn what Hip-Hop was/is...and how to create it. Within months of that, Jimmy would do a deal with Dr. Dre and Suge Knight...hence creating Death Row Records; under Interscope Records.
That's an amazing story ! Remember, in those days MTV Refused to play Black Artists like Rick James ! They had to be FORCED to play Michael Jackson and Prince's videos ! Columbia CEO Walter Yetnikoff threatened to pull every Columbia artist off MTV if they wouldn't play Michael Jackson's videos ! That's how MJ got on MTV...
Absolutely love the content,Adam--I am a 65 yr old black guy, and total music junkie-your interviews and stories bring back so many great memories--back in the late '70's and thru out the '80's and '90's, I was a guitarist in a few rock bands, --now, i relive those days thru your channel--thanks again for all the excellent content, this old rocker appreciates it much.
I routed my Stratocaster to install a Floyd Rose dive-bomb tremolo as soon as I heard "Eruption". I also found a top-mount Floyd Rose for the 1962 SG ( Les Paul Junior, actually) . Van Halen changed the way a lot of guitar players evolved and they forever changed "hard rock". R.I.P., Eddie, we still miss ya ! Very nice upload, lot's of good memories in this one....
And the funny thing about that sound for eruption came from a shorted out coil that he could never duplicste until he febuilt that guitar and discoverd the short then had a pickup made to duplicate it
@jllucci I have a sister named Rhonda. Me and my friends did the same thing with the Beach Boys "Help me Rhonda". Of course it backfired when she started singing "Da Doo Ron Ron".
For my keg party mix tape in '89 in the dorm, I had Tone saying "Let's Do it" immediately followed by Jamie's Cryin'. All the girls yelled "Whee!!!" and then were introduced to Van Halen.
Back in school, if the students were in class before the teacher entered, we would draw the Van Halen logo all over the chalkboard. Class would be delayed to erase it clean. Loved VH, especially the debut album! Oh, and Diamond Dave over Sammy!!!! 🖖🏼
That is a pretty solid top 5, even with the disco influence, but I still can't believe "Jamie's Cryin'" never even charted. It's a great song and a great story and I thank you for sharing it with us. A song that didn't get snubbed quite so badly, but I always thought deserved at least one week at number 1 is John Cougar - "Hurt So Good".
They used to play in my cousin's backyard in Arcadia in the 70's (when they were known as Mammoth). They went to school together. I was pretty young back then and would get the boot as soon as the girls showed up. Their demo, Zero, was fantastic. Thanks Professor Of Rock. Always appreciate and share your content.
@2:57 - 🤘🏼 *Rat Salad is the instrumental track from Black Sabbath's Paranoid album. David thought it pigeonholed them as a heavy metal band and suggested Van Halen bc "no one knows what a Van Halen is!"* 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
I saw in a documentary that indeed David was the one who suggested to the brothers to use their name for the band: Van Halen. And as the reason: because it just sounds so cool. It's a cool name! And indeed it is! ICONIC!!!!!
I remember when Running with the Devil hit the airwaves and my friend immediately bought the album and we got together to listen to VH first album, needless to say within weeks we all had the album after hearing Jamie's crying, eruption, you really got me, Feel your love tonight, ain't talking about love and ice cream man. Stellar game changing album. Tone Loc did rip it off but I really liked wild thing, I always thought he paid for the rights outright didn't know he didn't. Great episode professor!!
That album rocks and one of my favorites. I too was unaware of the details of the sampling and agreed good segment no crying here just head banging lol
Van Halen's first 4 albums were as good as it gets when it comes to hard rock, I bought them all as three came out, after that their music turned into pop fluff and I've never owned a single one, but those first 4 albums, wow, especially the first 2 coming out at the height of Disco when that's all there was on the airways, they were like a breath of fresh air.
The original payment for the sampling was MORE than fair. The release of Wild Thing is the reason 99% of Jamie's Cryin' ariplay ever happened!!! Maybe Wild Thing wouldn't exist without it, but then again, there were plenty of other songs to sample, and Tone Loc's team did WAY more work marketing that song the VH's team... that basically buried it. -Shawn
Um, don't know your age but Jamie's Crying smashed it when it was released. At least with all of us kids. My God, it was everywhere in highschool. So many guys sang it to me, and my name is not Jamie. But, Van Halen had far more than one popular song. So it was kind of a Van Halen tour. Eddie's genius, Dave's vocals, every guy wanted to be them. They were the Pinnacle of their era.
@@Missunderstood103 Jamie's Cryin' did not make a blip on the charts whatsoever, it's weird. But the album was super popular so it's not like it was an unknown song. I think it is funny that people are crediting Tone Loc for VH's popularity. Where is Tone Loc now? Did he have more than two songs?
I loved the feeling of finding the obscure sample somewhere down the road. First I'd get the Beastie Boys, then later, out of a used, bin I'd get the old National Lampoon record they got it from. It was Easter Egg Bonus Time!
The first time I heard the guitar riff from Kashmir was when I saw the music video for “Come With Me” from the Godzilla soundtrack by (at the time) Puff Daddy featuring Jimmy Page. I was probably 11 or 12 and had no idea who Jimmy Page was, but I knew I loved that guitar riff. I’m a huge Zeppelin fan now, so I definitely agree that sampling can breathe new life into old songs and expose new generations to music from the past that they may not have come across otherwise. I also think it’s important to credit the original artists and make sure they get a cut if the royalties.
@@ProfessorofRock Adam I have a question,when you're making your videos and telling the story.Are you reading off a tv screen or telling the story by remembering everything?
Believe it or not I knew Eddie and Alex Van Halen. They grew up in Arcadia California near me. They were on my boyfriend Steve’s Baseball team mid 1970’s Team Name was LSD which stood for “Long Strong Devastators.” 😅 Your site is ‘One of a Kind.’ Very refreshing and informative. (Especially in todays crazy world ) I am 68 now. Great days!
@ProfessorofRock It's crazy how you can call yourself the "Professor of Rock" and claim that rappers are stealing samples from rock artists but not talk about how white people STOLE rock from black people.
@rlh9373 Journey...perhaps _just a bit..._ but Tom Scholz, the musical GENIUS behind BOSTON, introduced us to an entirely new sound with the release of BOSTON's debut album in 1976. They sounded absolutely new and unique, unlike the majority of other 70s bands, whose sound was primarily derivative of every other band on the radio from the 60s and 70s. *Two things that **_really stood out_** with BOSTON's sound...* *One:* The incredible crunchy, larger than life sound that the Rockman pedal... ( _a pedal that Tom Scholz created!_ ) ...achieved, with its distinctive, polished, overdriven and harmonically rich, sustained tone. *Two:* The vocals. Again, much of the credit goes right to Tom. The meticulous way in which he mixed the vocals... buttery smooth sounding harmonies that were flooded with a superpowerful, multi-layered sound that was also, absolutely unique to BOSTON. As good as other band's vocals were, BOSTON's were unmistakably their own sound. *Next, we come to VAN HALEN.* Once again...a band with an absolutely new sound that was genius and unlike *_anyone else_* on the radio in 1978! Also once again, there were two things that _really stood out_ with VAN HALEN's sound. *ONE: **_Eddie Van Halen's guitar._* *NOBODY...and I do mean NOBODY* sounded like Eddie Van Halen ever before. That style of playing resulted in Eddie creating a *whole new paradigm in guitar!* Eddie was more than just a player, he was an inventor. His homemade, *Frankenstrat guitar,* mods to his amps, and unique style of playing with two-handed taps, harmonics and dive bombs were what he was known for! You simply cannot overstate Eddie's importance and influence of guitarist that came after him. Just like the BEATLES were the catalyst to a generation of kids all wanting to start bands in their garages, so too was Eddie the catalyst to a generation of kids wanting to play metal guitar in the 80s! Though not as influential as Eddie, nevertheless, *David Lee Roth* was still a huge influence and very much responsible for VAN HALEN's unique sound and concert performance. With the combination of his unique vocal style...the signature screams and dynamic range along with his truly incredible stage presence, looking like a combination of a circus acrobat and a Kung fu fighter, his unstoppable energy had him running, leaping and kicking, from the first note of the concert to the last...he never appeared to be out of energy, even as they walked off stage at the end of the show. Additionally, he was a smooth talking pro when it came to his frontman duties. He had a unique way of making the audience keep their eyes and ears always tuned to him! _Truly an original._ So although Journey were/are an incredible band with an incredible sound, I honestly just cannot see them as having any influence over the future of 80s metal's sound that even approaches the influence of BOSTON and VAN HALEN.
My cousin Nancy has a daughter named Jamie!! Jamie hates this song because everyone sings it to her!! I love the song!! It had a different sound from other bands in that era!!
I remember when Van Halen's first album came out. It rocked harder than anything else for a number of years, it truely was in a league of its own. Played that cassette til it was worn out
VH brought it. Sampling is a short measure of the original, this was theft. When VH settled, you have to let it go. Oh, and fire the manager for allowing it for $5K. Should have been $5K plus royalties. Thanks Adam!
@@rmbuilder1 It wasn't theft, I get VH was pissed that this happened but clearly it was the fault of their management, who apperantly had the authority to license the music. I would hope that whoever took the that $5k was fired on the spot and VH established somes rules that their music can not be licensed without the bands consent.
Thanks for clearing up the whole situation. Tone Loc wasn’t actually a “thief”; VHs management was just stupid and didn’t handle things with much wisdom. At least VH was exposed to a different audience who gained a new interest and respect for a category of music they probably didn’t know much about or care about until they heard something that cool.
Wild Thing and "Weird" Al's (Gilligan's) Isle Thing - which was my introduction to the Tone Loc piece, are da BOMB! Couldn't be done without Jamie's Cryin', but WOW what a song - Were the girls in the video copying Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love"?
Like you, I was a big fan of Casey’s Countdown, and I always rooted for my favorite songs to do well, but there is a logical reason why a lot of these singles didn’t chart higher, which is that people bought the album instead. For those of us who were on a budget in those days, we had to decide if we just liked the song, or whether we were willing to lay down the money for a whole album. If we already knew and loved the artist (e.g. Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd…) we didn’t mess with the single, we went straight to the album. We were also blessed to have had the Album Oriented Rock (AOR) radio format, which allowed us to hear album cuts from these artists. Those kinds of stations were gold, and really transitioned me from records to albums. When a band like Journey came out with “Escape”, I had already liked some of their songs that I’d heard on the radio, and the first single was so good, I took the chance on the album. Even though I liked the 3rd and 4th singles even more, I didn’t need to buy them. Ultimately, bands who sold millions of albums didn’t really need a big single to sell their music. When the first Van Halen album hit the AOR format, we got to hear “Eruption-You Really Got Me”, “Ain’t Talkin Bout Love” and “Running With the Devil”. There was nothing that sounded like that on the radio, and most of us went to the album without hesitation. When an unknown bands debut sells over 10 million copies, you don’t worry about the singles at all.
I like the AI summary option that's towards the bottom from the description. It really gives an accurate description of what's talked about in the video so you can decide if it's worth your time. Time is money 💰
I would love for you to feature how Chicago's very underappreciated (and burned at Comiskey Park in '79) 'Street Player' was sampled--in very much the same way 'Jamie's Cryin'--in 1996 to become a #1 disco song (ironically), and gave Danny Seraphine, who was living in a fifth wheel, a second chance at a do-over and form his own band.
I was a HUGE fan of Van Halen when this album was released. Played the vinyl til I nearly wore it out. When they opened for Sabbath in Seattle, they did an afternoon rock radio call-in spot, as bands would. I started calling to get a spot on the phone the instant the interview started. I got thru and actually had a chance to ask a question of 'Master' Eddie himself. 🤩 I asked how he achieved "the sound" on Eruption. "You'll just have to come to the show and find out." I said "You know it! I got my ticket." He said "Great. We'll see you there!" DJ: "Thanks for the question. Next caller..." I even did a VH song at an air-guitar contest. Anyway, about Jamie's Cryin', there were so many great tracks on that album, I think it just got lost in the shuffle. That album was their Magnum Opus.
I was in Jr. High School, 7th Grade, when I first heard "Jamie's Crying". I remember it came out early '78 and my friends and I played that song all summer and into the fall when I started 8th Grade. Me being African-American, some of us didn't want to admit to liking or listening to some Rock bands but Van Halen was the s**t. A few years later when Rapper's Delight hit the airwaves, everybody wanted to be the next DJ, rapper, graffiti artist or breakdancer / pop-locker to make it big. I gravitated towards the DJing and turntablism. Once sampling popped up, a lot of musicians didn't like the fact we were all trying to incorporate the turntables and sampling into live bands. We would make beats on the Roland 808 and 909 then cut and scratch our favorite songs to the beats and "Jamie's Crying" was one of my favorites to mix and scratch with. Countless other songs too but J C was one of them. In the beginning of the sampling era our attitude towards the artist was, since this song isn't being played on the radio anymore or as much as before, we could bring it back with a new twist on it. We always hoped our favorite artist would hear what we were doing with it and maybe we would end up working with them in that aspect. We had no idea about the legalities of publishing and copyright infringement, it wasn't our intent to "steal" the song, it was "Hip-Hop" and all we wanted to do was remixes and/or play our favorite songs to the new beats we were making. Once the sampling aspect of Hip-Hop started catching on and getting popular, the "money people" started taking over and that's when the lawsuits came. Man, I could go on and on about this but...
In a recent comment I said that the DNA remix of "Tom's Diner" is an example of how collaborative music _should_ work. "Jamie's Cryin'" and "Wild Thing" is an example of how it can go wrong if egos and lawyers get in the way.
DNA didn’t remix Tom’s Diner… They took Soul 2 Soul’s “Keep on Moving/ Back to Life” 12” dance mix (Tommy Boy I think) and blended them in one track. I used to do it live with both on vinyl on my SP1200’s in 1989/90 😎👍
@@EmetYAHU Mashup or remix, I think my point still stands. Suzanne Vega handled it well and everyone was happy; it's hard to find a loser there. When such works get hit with lawsuits, it's hard to find a winner.
I ran across an old school friend around 1980. We both played guitar as kids but in the meantime I had switched to drums while he stayed with guitar. We were jamming and during a lull, just off the cuff I played a drum intro. I "thought" I was playing the intro to D'yer mak'er by Zepplin but he said "oh cool, Jamie's Crying". I knew "of" VH but had not yet gotten into them at that point so never heard of the song and was like, what? who? . He knew how to play it so I learned it. That was really my introduction to VH.
***PROF. CRIES FOUL WHEN A CLASSIC #1 (IN OUR HEARTS) 70's ROCK TRACK TURNS INTO A RAPPIN' 80's PARTY TUNE, FOR ALL THE "WLD THINGS" OF THE ERA....*** ....well, Prof. educates me once AGAIN! ...I had no idea "Jamie's Cryin' was slated to be VH's 1st release! ....I thought it was a LP track 'gone good'! ....Go figga.....(cont.) .....BUT, since it's a "#1 In Our Hearts", let's see how it did, when it was #2, Feb. 1989..... 10. You Got It (The Right Stuff) - New Kids On The Block 9. Walking Away (7" remix) - Information Society 8. What I Am - Edie Brickell & The New Bohemians 7. She Wants To Dance With Me - Rick Astley 6. When I'm With You - Sheriff 5. The Lover In Me - Sheena Easton 4. Lost In Your Eyes - Debbie Gibson 3. Born To Be My Baby - Bon Jovi 2. ***Wild Thing*** - Tone Loc (12:28) 1. Straight Up - Paula Abdul ....and Tone doesn't realize how MUCH a "Wild Thing" EDDIE was at the time!! (15:19) ...haa-HAA!! ...keep Wildin', Prof.! ; )
10 years old in 1978 and my neighbor friend who was 15, I think, somehow got possession of his first car, a late 60s Plymouth Satellite and drove it. He invited me to go fishing with his cousin and I had to sneak off to do this because Mom would have never allowed me to go with him driving at his age. I'm in the back seat, he has an 8-track playing and all of a sudden Runnin' With The Devil starts playing. Even with the low quality 1960s speakers I was blown away. Almost like an out of body experience. Nothing but me and the song playing. Ted Nugent's Wango Tango played next and I begged my friend to replay RWTD!!
I've said before how little regard I've got for DLR as a vocalist I'll say at this point that "Jamie's Cryin" is one Van Halen song that I did enjoy hearing when I used to listen to Classic Rock Radio and it was in semi-regular rotation. I didn't even realize until now that it was sampled that way. I'm sure it's no coincidence that both "Wild Thing" and "Bust a Move" were simultaneously included in Uncle Buck.
I do not consider Roth a real vocalist, @xxlilly_playsxxkiz9980 . He's a great lyricist and Melody writer, and I can't deny did he did much to make Van Halen salable as a live act, but his voice leaves a whole world to be desired. I feel no shame in saying that.
@@ericbgordon1575 and I don’t blame you for saying that. He is over the top. But sometimes his charisma is all you need to go far in the rock and roll world.
@@ProfessorofRock Not exactly just one writer, Professor. They had the same three writers, Marvin Young, Matt Dike and Michael Ross, but also Anthony Terrell Smith wrote part of “Wild Thing.”
I was in the 8th grade when that album dropped. I played the crap out if it. Every song rocks. Feel your love tonight, little dreamer get over looked a lot, but theyre awesome. My dad even liked ice cream man. "Oh my my". Great presentation. 👍🏻
I was happy to hear Jamie's Cryin' as a staple on classic rock radio. The song deserved better when it came out, but at least it got some airplay in a later life.
Love the video and brief history lesson on this song, VH is one of those great bands that had success with multiple lead singers and I personally think this story just adds to their legacy! That Tone Loc was also most likely to make his most iconic song off is also incredible, plus let’s also not forget the Robert Palmer-themed video that accompanied the song, clear evidence that early rappers were paying attention to rock music, as the mashups were getting popular. Far as I’m concerned, the fans won, royalties and recognition aside.
This is the video that led me to this channel. Great videos. I'm glad I discovered this channel. It's easy to watch with interesting info. Keep up the good work.
Van Halen have always been my favorite rock band both the original with David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar but I've always preferred the David Lee Roth years but they did have a few good ones with Sammy though, my favorite VH song was and still is Dancing the Night Away which is the first song i heard from the band and I still miss Eddie and his great guitar thanks for the memories Professor and until next time thank you.🎶🎶🎤🎸🎸🎹🥁🎶🎶
I was one of those scooping up pieces of my brain off the floor. A friend of a friend wanted us to check out this album he'd picked because the cover looked cool. He played it through custom 250 W speakers he had built himself. To be honest, "Jamie's Crying" has never been my favorite track. But the intro to "Running With The Devil" leading into "Eruption" was mesmerizing. I was a guitar player, still am, but I couldn't do anything like that, still can't. Nobody played the way he did.
Was able to see the Van Halen first tour at the Oakland Arena when they opened and blew away Black Sabbath. They played the entire album, less song #1 on side B of the album. I think that was 'Jamie's Cryin' that they skipped.
You got me dude. This and the Cinderella Nobody's Fool...ya got my subscribe! Love your informative reporting style, but your delivery makes it seem like you were there when they were saying and doing these things. Bravo
You are an an amazing source of random rock reportage. I love it! I guessed this was gonna be Jamie's Cryin'/Tone Loc from the thumb. Barry Gibb, Bee Gees, should be credited for 'Grease'. So 2 Gibb songs in the top 5 then. Oh, and nice specs btw 🤓👍
I truly don’t understand how rappers are allowed to “sample” songs but others have been sued to oblivion for using a similar chord progression that everyone uses! P.S. 5 days later, I had no idea my comment would be so controversial. I admit I was only going off what I had heard that rappers constantly sampled songs. I don’t listen to rap so don’t know anything about that world. There are obviously strong opinions about it and it’s true that I didn’t understand. I still think rappers should write their own music but if they got permission to use the original music I apologize for slandering anyone.
Because nobody ever wanted the bad publicity of suing a minority, could you imagine the backlash? "They're keeping them down!!!" would be the only thing people would say about it.
"Those 🤬 entitled rappers. Grrr!" Take it easy. That was many decades & lawsuits ago. Nowadays, sampling is credited & royalties paid to the original creators.
Then you probably wouldn't understand why Andy Warhol is respected as an important and revolutionary artist. He didn't design Campbell's soup labels, he didn't photograph Marilyn or Elizabeth Taylor, and he most certainly didn't paint The Last Super, but he did present it to you in a new way. Some artists use crayon, clay, guitars, cameras, and paint to make art. Some artists use art to make art. What is a collage? What is a mixtape? Some people have 2 feet facing the same direction. They are in a tunnel. They have a collapsible telescope. They take turns closing one eye and looking through the telescope down the tunnel in the direction their feet are facing. Behind them in the warehouse is a turntable scratch and mix competition simultaneously happening with the freestyle battle rap finals.
@@joshuawilliams7351 Oh God he was awful, his art was awful and his movies were even worse, the only reason he achieved the status he did was because the 60's was the era of the freak and critics wanted to be big shots for being the one who discovered the next big freak, and I'm from his hometown of Pittsburgh and I'll say that, if I'd have any reason to support him it'd be the hometown connection but the reality is he was so bad I can't even do that.
It's funny that you said that they could have called themselves RAT SALAD as there was actually a band by that name here in Australia. I know this because my brother used to be a roadie for them, I still have a record that they made. Great channel mate, brings back a lot of memories.
"It wiped the slate clean to let the 80's really start..." Great line! Awesome song that still rocks. As for sampling: as long as it's not completely ripping off the whole song, I'm OK with it. I think it takes a lot of creativity to take a beat and a riff and work it into a whole other song.
I like how you use Van Halen and Boston as getting ROCK MUSIC going again. I was never a big Van Halen fan but you are sooooo correct in your thoughts!
The concept that Boston and / or Van Halen saved rock and roll is just what some people like to think and say. While Boston's and Van Halen's debut albums were great and had invigorating sounds, rock had not stopped before their releases. Rock acts like Chicago, Bob Dylan, The Eagles, Peter Frampton, Wings, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones and Fleetwood Mac were all over the radio and music stores in the 1976 months before Boston’s debut album release. They had #1 albums; Boston's debut peaked at #3. Van Halen's debut album peaked at #19. Of course some rock albums like "Rumours" were still mega sellers at the time of Van Halen's debut album's release.
We were so blessed with so much good music that some of the very best didn’t make the top ten…just no room. I loved the story about Van Halen rolling up in a tank. I laughed out loud. I hope the neighbors weren’t watching! You just get better every day and with every show. Take care of yourself. We need you around to keep us informed on the music that flows through our veins.
@15:00 fistfight between Eddie VH and Tone Loc? Eddie gets credit for being wiry and a little crazy, but TL was beefy and def knew how to throw hands. EVH was wise to keep quiet.
I've never heard Wild Thing in Jamie's Cryin, never heard of the problem until now, and listening to both, I still can't hear it. Some people get all bent out of shape over nothing.
Yeah, Van Halen 1 is one of those rare occurrences where there are no misses - all great songs. In my high school days, this album was essential listening and we all dug it. Cheers, bro!
My opinion is basic; Van Halen had ten years and every opportunity to make “Jamie’s Crying” a hit. Tone Loc did something to make it work. Sampling in those days was innocent and essential for street performers. There was nothing set up to compensate the original artist so how could Tone Loc and everyone else be on the up and up? Look at all the great music we would’ve been deprived of if those young artists didn’t borrow.
@@marktait2371I doubt having a background in piano would make a guitarist particularly unique since it's very common for guitarists to also play keyboards. Aside from raw talent an important factor in Eddie Van Halen's originality was that he was blessed to have never had any formal training. Formal training is fine for most people but it can thwart creativity in many ways. Innovation is often hastily admonished as "doing it wrong" and discouraged and one's ability to develop melodies is squashed as everything is seen in terms of formal chord progressions. I remember just sort of jamming and noodling with friends of mine and one of their girlfriends told my friend that was improvising on guitar something like "Ooh, that sounds really cool!" and the nerdiest amongst us, who had a lot of formal training and music theory, dismissed it condescendingly as "Just a 1-4-5 progression" or some such. The thing is, what the guitar player was playing _did_ sound _very_ cool and original, but my over trained other friend was too geeked out to hear it; everything was just a progression to him etc. He could play covers well but could never come up with anything original anyone would want to listen to.
@@b.g.5869 Eddie and Alex both took piano lessons from a young age. This is well documented. It's just that Eddie never learned to read musical notation with proficiency.
@maryporter6665 They're wearin' steel that's bright an' true oh, oh, oh, oh To build a dream for me an' you ah-hahhh To build a dream for me an' you ahhhh yes they do They choose the path where no one goes Blackhole sun... The Magical Mystery Tour Is waiting to take you away Waiting to take you away Still round the corner there may wait A new road or a secret gate, And though we pass them by today, Tomorrow we may come this way And take the hidden paths that run Toward the Moon or to the Sun The monoliths the rainbow connection
I am so very lucky to have been able to see Eddie play live during the OU812 tour. Van Halen is a staple in the rock era and they will always be one band who set the standard
The only version. I love Sammy Haggar, but that ain't Van Halen. Cherone is cool, but only with Extreme. Those first 5 albums are fire, or should I say ,"On Fire".
Along with Eruption and Ice Cream Man, "I'm The One", have the best and killer solos or riffs you can think off. Man, they blew my mind!! Man, VH and Boston and The Cars hold the best debut albums in history.
I remember "Jaime's Crying" being in constant rotation on the local hard rock station. It's now the "classic rock" station, and that VH track is still in constant rotation.
I pointed out that "Rat Salad" was essentially to Sabbath what "Moby D*ck" was to Led Zeppelin and it was removed. Apparently because of the second word in the title as originally spelled without an asterisk 🤔?
🤔 If that's how you really feel, did you get permission or pay royalties or demonitize this video for the music you used. He paid. And then he paid again. What of you?
I mean technically under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work, including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports, so there would be no need for him to pay royalties, but I get what you're saying. Implying tone loc stole the song when his team did in fact pay what was asked is a poor choice of words. VH management is the ones to blame for that one. Tone didn't steal it.
When I was in 4th grade, 1984 was a prize for jumprope for heart. My friend won the album, I discovered rock and talked her into giving me the cassette. The rest is history 🤘
Poll: What is your pick for the COOLEST HARD ROCK or HEAVY METAL Song of ALL TIME?
Hot For Teacher
"Don't Fear the Reaper" Blue Oyster Cult
Fear Factory Regenerate
Satyricon - Black Crow On A Tombstone
Fire Woman
Sweet Child O Mine (Hard Rock)
Nothing Else Matters (Heavy Metal)
So wait, did a rapper "steal" this sample or did a rock band's raggedy management sell away the rights to the sample for dramatically less than it was worth because they underestimated the success the rapper would have with it?
Both
First things first... It's not "stolen". Tone Loc paid TWICE for using the sample. Second, Eddie didn't want it with Loc - he would have gotten DESTROYED that night. He should be thankful for the mercy he was shown that night.
I was coming on here to blast these comments and I saw yours.... 100% correct
he doesn't know what "Loc" represents and the implications of fighting with someone who answers to it.
Song was stolen
Simply because they have the money and permission to clear the sample and use it. Otherwise you would have never even heard about it. 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah I think dude is underestimating tone loc lol. Isn't he a legit Southside Compton crip? Although that story about Eddie pulling up on Fred durst is pretty wild too 😂. Sounds like it would've been an interesting stand off to say the least I guess
The song was not stolen. I don’t why Adam keeps saying the song was stolen. The bands beef should’ve been with their manager that received 5k for allowing the usage of the song, just as he states in the video!
Exactly!!
You know why he saying it the way he saying it 😒
Exactly. Nothing was stolen.
@@lloydgrimesjr1996these classic rock losers love hating rappers
@@BigRichOSM”using another band’s song without their consent” he paid the management. But dogwhistling gets clicks more than the truth
Van Halen's beef should've been with the manager, not Tone Lōc.
As a nightclub DJ from the 1970s through the mid 1990s, I recall playing Jamie’s Crying a lot in the’70s. It always packed the dance floor. When “Wild Thing” by Tone Lōc was first released to nightclub DJs in 1988, I immediately recognized that riff from Van Halen’s “Jamie’s Crying” in the song, and I immediately integrated the Van Halen song into Tone Lōc’s “Wild Thing” every time I played it. I would mix the VH tune into the beat breaks and either start the mix by playing “Jamie’s Crying” or mix out of Wild Thing with Jamie’s Crying, along with the VH mixed into the beat breaks. Sometimes I would start the medley with Jamie’s Crying, mix into Wild Thing, then mix out back into Jamie’s Crying again at the end of Wild Thing. It was a real crowd pleaser.
love train rides from coast to coast the dj's the man we love the most. hopefully by now you have heard the call and started building and or completed. can you
Can you feel it, see it, hear it today?
If you can't, then it doesn't matter anyway
You will never understand it, 'cause it happens too fast
And it feels so good, it's like walking on glass
I have to listen again. I don't hear it. It sounds like a completely different guitar sound to me.
when friend was a club dj sometimes he did now they call mash up one i recall he would have herbie hancock mega mix i have it today and the radio edit single om the dual then after intro put on a mega mix then back to edit another i recall stones miss you he mixed in looking for a friend intro
@@marktait2371 I did that sort of thing all time when I was a nightclub DJ. If I couldn’t be creative, it just wasn’t any fun.
friend was same he tried to do that sometimes to break up.the boredom he had a 3 hour show 9 to 12
This story right here is why I am ALL FOR sampling (as long as proper permission is acquired and the original artists are compensated). "Wild Thing" introduced me to "Jamie's Cryin'," and this is just ONE example of me being introduced to source material because of a sample. In fact, I very likely wouldn't know of one of my favorite artists (Average White Band) if it were not for samples. I poured over liner notes and sample credits of my favorite hip hop albums so that I could track down the original sample source.
It wasn’t a stollen riff… you said yourself that they paid a $5,000 fee to use it.
Why the hell is this video 20 minutes long? I just want to hear the story of the song being sampled... So much talking about VH that should be a different video.
@@BubbaHubba-zy2kf ADHD huh?
@@coachhumph5524😂 no ADHD. he's just talking about everything but the title of the video
Honestly, im kind of on your side on this. Normally, I'd say something similar to the other dude who replied, but in this case, it's not "adhd," lol. I came into it thinking we would hear about the story of the sample and instead sat through a history lesson on van halen first, just to stretch the video. I didn't mind, but did feel like a lot of it was there just for filler to make the video longer and had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the video@@BubbaHubba-zy2kf
In the late 80s I had a Mustang II that I had Installed a cassette player in. My five and nine year old daughters and I would blast Jamie’s Crying and sing at the top of of our lungs! Great memories.
That is an awesome memory!👍
Good mommy!
YES! Those were the days!
@@Whisper_292 daddy
@@lorenknowles1521 Oops, sorry. Good daddy.
The unsung hero of this band was Michael Anthony. Excellent, consistent bass playing and exceptional backup vocals.
he's more of a sung hero at this point
Ace, Michael has admitted that he never played bass on the early VH albums. Ed did. He was a control freak.
great high harmony from Mike
The band is no more . Let it go
More than backup for Hagar-era VH: the vocals in the live shows would’ve been flat without him and the way he could pick up seamlessly from Sammy, keeping the dynamics
I have a great memory of Jamie's Crying. We were in the car when I was very young, and my mom was just belting out the chorus while my little sister plugged her ears! I still laugh about it years later. The solo in the song is just out of this world. Nothing else like it existed in rock music. This started my lifelong love affair with Van Halen. I miss this band so much.
Thanks for sharing.
EVH cannot be beat!
Nothing like walking down the street with friends and Van Halen blasting out of all the cars driving by. The days when you either heard it on the radio or cassette if you were out of the house and away from the record player.
How about walking down the school hall and hearing someone wail "Nobody rules the streets at night but me! Nobody! WAAAAUGGGHHGHGH!" Then someone would reply "The Atomic Punk!"
....you shoulda seen Miami, Florida, Spring 1984!!! """PAAAAA-NA-MAAAA!!" ...ha-HAA!!!
So cool!
yeh everyone had the record and would hear scholl.parking lot kids in parents hand me down cars us friends olders bros 64 valient they put homemade box speakers in the back cheap 6 inch in the doors fm radio and 8 track amp under the seat could be a funny youtube video but damned if the old clunker didnt rock lift up back seat old cooler still there where you put the six pack haha
Or on the juke box at the Pizza Hut? Those were the days.
VH's debut album was a mindblower. Rarely before and hardly after has a debut album made an impact on history.
No joke.
I was vehemently anti hard rock. And my skull is thick and hard to penetrate. That album pierced right through it.
It was a Perfect Album.
Yup. It came out when I was 17 and I remember sitting in my buddy’s basement playing it over and over and over and….
As a VH fan, I don't know about the impact, but for a debut album Guns 'N Roses album Appetite for Destruction with well over 30 million in sales has to be mentioned. Sweet Child o' Mine, Welcome to the Jungle, Paradise City, and more.
I never heard of Van Halen until 1984 when on vacation my two year old and five year old sons were jumping off a retaining wall at a restaurant in Knoxville and singing, “ jump, might as well jump” over and over, two year old more animated than five year old, I asked where they heard that song and they said MTV I told them that they weren’t allowed to watch MTV , that’s when I found out what my boys were doing while I was doing housework, lol, I sat with them one day and together we watched some videos and I was blown away by Van Halen. My Beautiful Grandmother was partial to country music and especially Alan Jackson, one day I heard her listening to Van Halen, she was in her late 80s and loved them, Van Halen bridged many a generation gap. Thanks for the great show, loved it, EVH driving a tank carrying a gun, yeah, I can see that.
Thanks for sharing!
Glad you changed your mind about MTV.
I remember being at a birthday party and MTV was on the TV -- a luxury as my house did not have cable yet -- and the veejay (Martha Quinn?) challenged the viewer to count the number of wardrobe changes from David Lee Roth in the video. They played it and we counted every time his clothes changed. 8? 10? I'll have to go watch it again and start counting. 🤣
Tone Loc is a Crip gang member and they were notorious back in the 80’s. He would have definitely mashed Eddie.
Lmao Right, I'm like...WHAT?!?! This dude is a delusional fan
You don't know Tone. I went to high school with him. They didn't call him "Loco" for nothing. He is a real gangster. A real killer. The kind that rappers talk about when they talk about the O.G.'s. And he was always strapped and never rolled solo. I love Eddie but it would not have ended well at the time.
And it never ends well for the rappers that consider themselves real gangsters either....
@@NonProphet500 But the reality is that Tone Loc would have Destroyed Eddie Van Halen !
@@bobgrayson6220 What does that even mean? Eddie was high profile, so Tone would have "destroyed" him and caught a case....for what, street cred?
I wonder what kind of cred Eddie was going for when he drove a tank to Fred Durst's house in Beverly hills and pulled a gun on him? @@NonProphet500
@@yourboyblue8056 None. He's an idiot too
My names Jimmy. I helped raise my niece from birth to 18. I did all i could to introduce her to music. And for whatever reason, she still relates "jamies crying" to me. Shes currently 34 yrs old
Better than relating you with Janie's Got A Gun. That would be a problem.
This is so wholesome Jimmy. Thank you.
Do you have a pocket full of Kryptonite?
@@rons3634 What are you do do ing Ron?
I had an Uncle Jim that left me his albums when he went into the army.
His influence is #2. I had a cool ass dad.
Notice my last name. 👊
Swedish rocker Yngwie Malmsteen said that he and his friends were sitting around, listing to music and someone brought in the Van Halen debut album. He said it was like a bomb went off; everyone was blown away. Check out Rick Beato's interview with same.
He’s an incredible guitarist.
And Malmsteen is an amazing, original sounding guitarist, so for him to say that is quite the compliment for VH.
Yngwie doesn't get enough love for the guitar God he is!!
@@johnnyjohnson1326
Because his songs are generic and all of his solos sound pretty much the same.
I recall hearing VH one Saturday morning coming home from a sleep over. Got home grabbed my bike off to the record shop with no song or no band name. Walking into store, I said I heard this song on the radio, hear you go VH.
MC Hammer was one of the few rap acts that actually gave the writers credit along with himself or whoever helped create unique parts of the song. He use "Super Freak" by Rick James. Rick told his manager not to give permission for this, but his manager allowed without Rick's consent. While Rick was preparing to take Hammer to court, he started getting the royalty checks for U Can't Touch This, and he decided not to sue. He was making more from the song via the sample than he did from the original run.
I remember this story. Money changes everything
That was the beginning of the end of actual good music.
Hammer is a crook. He was stealing song credits from his producers/songwriters. I know, because I witnessed the whole thing. As per "Super Freak", being used for "You Can't Touch This" - that is not a sample. Hammer's producers, real musicians, my brother James "Jae-E" Earley being one of them - replayed the song. It's a cover version, not a sample.
BTW, my brother taught Flea how to play bass slap style. They had been in School Band Orchestra with each other - and Flea was playing in the woodwind section - while my brother was on something else. I'd have to ask him. Further, Slash used to be in my brother's Funk/Reggae band. They all went to Fairfax High School together. Post-high school, Tom Morello would join another of my brother's bands...and Jason Nesmith...Michael Nesmith's son...who went on to form the band Nancy Boy.
Later, after leaving Hammer for stealing from him (we are talking millions), my brother would work with Matt Dike and Jimmy Iovine on a Robin Zander solo song. Jimmy employed them, as he was attempting to learn what Hip-Hop was/is...and how to create it. Within months of that, Jimmy would do a deal with Dr. Dre and Suge Knight...hence creating Death Row Records; under Interscope Records.
That's an amazing story ! Remember, in those days MTV Refused to play Black Artists like Rick James ! They had to be FORCED to play Michael Jackson and Prince's videos !
Columbia CEO Walter Yetnikoff threatened to pull every Columbia artist off MTV if they wouldn't play Michael Jackson's videos !
That's how MJ got on MTV...
Hammer also sampled When Doves Cry for Pray and Prince got royalties from Hammer.
The assault vehicle story…..AWESOME! Keep up the great work Professor, you’re keeping this 65 year old very happy.
Long live rock!
Roll the bones...
Tone Loc was a former LA gang banger. I bet a little skinny Dutch dude who plays the guitar would scare him. But rest in peace Eddie
Absolutely love the content,Adam--I am a 65 yr old black guy, and total music junkie-your interviews and stories bring back so many great memories--back in the late '70's and thru out the '80's and '90's, I was a guitarist in a few rock bands, --now, i relive those days thru your channel--thanks again for all the excellent content, this old rocker appreciates it much.
I routed my Stratocaster to install a Floyd Rose dive-bomb tremolo as soon as I heard "Eruption". I also found a top-mount Floyd Rose for the 1962 SG ( Les Paul Junior, actually) . Van Halen changed the way a lot of guitar players evolved and they forever changed "hard rock". R.I.P., Eddie, we still miss ya !
Very nice upload, lot's of good memories in this one....
Nice! Did you have a 70s strat?
@@ralpherl5657 It was a 1968 Strat that I bought at a pawn shop....I still have 1 of them but due to health issues no more playing for me.:(...
And the funny thing about that sound for eruption came from a shorted out coil that he could never duplicste until he febuilt that guitar and discoverd the short then had a pickup made to duplicate it
I had a friend in grade school who turned me on to VH. He had a sister named Jamie and he would play "Jamie's Cryin'" to get under her skin.
🤣🤣🤣
That's classic 😂
I never knew anyone named Jamie, but I have to believe that this was done a lot back in the day. Awesome 😂
@@stevenfunderburg1623 Sounds like the families on my block growing up in the 70s & 80s 🤣🤣🤣
@jllucci I have a sister named Rhonda. Me and my friends did the same thing with the Beach Boys "Help me Rhonda". Of course it backfired when she started singing "Da Doo Ron Ron".
Your ability to tell a story, your cadence, and just your calm/energetic voice, makes your channel (in my opinion) one of the bests!!! Keep it up!!! 👏
This was my FAVORITE VH song growing up!!❤️❤️
Absolutely! His enthusiasm for the songs he covers is unparalleled and highly contagious.
Wow! Thank you.
@@Scratchync One of mine as well!
@@Whisper_292 Thank you!
For my keg party mix tape in '89 in the dorm, I had Tone saying "Let's Do it" immediately followed by Jamie's Cryin'. All the girls yelled "Whee!!!" and then were introduced to Van Halen.
Ha
I spent many days and nights rocking to VanHallen. Those were the good old days.
Back in school, if the students were in class before the teacher entered, we would draw the Van Halen logo all over the chalkboard. Class would be delayed to erase it clean. Loved VH, especially the debut album! Oh, and Diamond Dave over Sammy!!!! 🖖🏼
Love it!
Drew that all over my notebooks!
Both were great!
haha we tried the aerosmirh get your wings logo in art class but dont think turned out so well classmate tried to make a silk screen t shirt recall
@@ceciliajones7816 Carved it into the desks too!
That is a pretty solid top 5, even with the disco influence, but I still can't believe "Jamie's Cryin'" never even charted. It's a great song and a great story and I thank you for sharing it with us. A song that didn't get snubbed quite so badly, but I always thought deserved at least one week at number 1 is John Cougar - "Hurt So Good".
I had the same thought. Kept out of top five by those songs? Sure, I can see it. But what were the other 95 songs that kept them out of the top 100?
If you ask me, disco influence always makes rock even more solid! :-)
That was #1 on Cashbox a week '82
They used to play in my cousin's backyard in Arcadia in the 70's (when they were known as Mammoth). They went to school together.
I was pretty young back then and would get the boot as soon as the girls showed up.
Their demo, Zero, was fantastic.
Thanks Professor Of Rock. Always appreciate and share your content.
,98 percent of bullshit stories contain the words ' my cousin ' or ' my uncle '
@2:57 - 🤘🏼 *Rat Salad is the instrumental track from Black Sabbath's Paranoid album. David thought it pigeonholed them as a heavy metal band and suggested Van Halen bc "no one knows what a Van Halen is!"* 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Dave wasn't only a killer singer and performer - he was a marketing genius 😎
@@dmitryowens Agreed.
I saw in a documentary that indeed David was the one who suggested to the brothers to use their name for the band: Van Halen. And as the reason: because it just sounds so cool. It's a cool name! And indeed it is! ICONIC!!!!!
I remember when Running with the Devil hit the airwaves and my friend immediately bought the album and we got together to listen to VH first album, needless to say within weeks we all had the album after hearing Jamie's crying, eruption, you really got me, Feel your love tonight, ain't talking about love and ice cream man. Stellar game changing album. Tone Loc did rip it off but I really liked wild thing, I always thought he paid for the rights outright didn't know he didn't. Great episode professor!!
so cool!
That album rocks and one of my favorites. I too was unaware of the details of the sampling and agreed good segment no crying here just head banging lol
@@AnnaTrail-xp8pr Jamie maybe crying but Anna is head banging! Love it!
Van Halen's first 4 albums were as good as it gets when it comes to hard rock, I bought them all as three came out, after that their music turned into pop fluff and I've never owned a single one, but those first 4 albums, wow, especially the first 2 coming out at the height of Disco when that's all there was on the airways, they were like a breath of fresh air.
@@dukecraig2402 so true, but I liked some of the songs from the Sammy days too. They really kicked it out on the first 4 I agree!
The original payment for the sampling was MORE than fair. The release of Wild Thing is the reason 99% of Jamie's Cryin' ariplay ever happened!!! Maybe Wild Thing wouldn't exist without it, but then again, there were plenty of other songs to sample, and Tone Loc's team did WAY more work marketing that song the VH's team... that basically buried it.
-Shawn
Um, don't know your age but Jamie's Crying smashed it when it was released. At least with all of us kids. My God, it was everywhere in highschool. So many guys sang it to me, and my name is not Jamie. But, Van Halen had far more than one popular song. So it was kind of a Van Halen tour. Eddie's genius, Dave's vocals, every guy wanted to be them. They were the Pinnacle of their era.
You sound like a bar owner trying to justify paying a band with "exposure" then patting themselves on the back for their generosity.
@@Missunderstood103 Jamie's Cryin' did not make a blip on the charts whatsoever, it's weird. But the album was super popular so it's not like it was an unknown song. I think it is funny that people are crediting Tone Loc for VH's popularity. Where is Tone Loc now? Did he have more than two songs?
Sampling is awesome with credit and compensation. It keeps the older music alive and works like a time traveling collaboration. Very cool 👍
THat's right.
As long as you credit the right people.
I loved the feeling of finding the obscure sample somewhere down the road. First I'd get the Beastie Boys, then later, out of a used, bin I'd get the old National Lampoon record they got it from. It was Easter Egg Bonus Time!
The first time I heard the guitar riff from Kashmir was when I saw the music video for “Come With Me” from the Godzilla soundtrack by (at the time) Puff Daddy featuring Jimmy Page. I was probably 11 or 12 and had no idea who Jimmy Page was, but I knew I loved that guitar riff. I’m a huge Zeppelin fan now, so I definitely agree that sampling can breathe new life into old songs and expose new generations to music from the past that they may not have come across otherwise. I also think it’s important to credit the original artists and make sure they get a cut if the royalties.
@@ProfessorofRock Adam I have a question,when you're making your videos and telling the story.Are you reading off a tv screen or telling the story by remembering everything?
Believe it or not I knew Eddie and Alex Van Halen. They grew up in Arcadia California near me. They were on my boyfriend Steve’s Baseball team mid 1970’s Team Name was LSD which stood for “Long Strong Devastators.” 😅
Your site is ‘One of a Kind.’ Very refreshing and informative. (Especially in todays crazy world )
I am 68 now. Great days!
Wow! That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
@ProfessorofRock It's crazy how you can call yourself the "Professor of Rock" and claim that rappers are stealing samples from rock artists but not talk about how white people STOLE rock from black people.
Wow, I had no idea that Wild Thing was a sample from Jamie's Crying. Now that I hear it I'm like 🤯
Right? Now I'm wondering how I missed it!
Right?
The “aha” moment!
It is????? Whoa😮
I didn't know either. Now I have to listen to both songs to see if it's true.
In my opinion, *BOSTON* and *VAN HALEN* were two of *_the most_** influential* bands from the 70s to influence the sound of *80s pop metal.*
Don't for get Journey
@rlh9373
Journey...perhaps _just a bit..._
but Tom Scholz, the musical GENIUS behind BOSTON, introduced us to an entirely new sound with the release of BOSTON's debut album in 1976. They sounded absolutely new and unique, unlike the majority of other 70s bands, whose sound was primarily derivative of every other band on the radio from the 60s and 70s.
*Two things that **_really stood out_** with BOSTON's sound...*
*One:* The incredible crunchy, larger than life sound that the Rockman pedal...
( _a pedal that Tom Scholz created!_ )
...achieved, with its distinctive, polished, overdriven and harmonically rich, sustained tone.
*Two:* The vocals. Again, much of the credit goes right to Tom. The meticulous way in which he mixed the vocals... buttery smooth sounding harmonies that were flooded with a superpowerful, multi-layered sound that was also, absolutely unique to BOSTON. As good as other band's vocals were, BOSTON's were unmistakably their own sound.
*Next, we come to VAN HALEN.*
Once again...a band with an absolutely new sound that was genius and unlike *_anyone else_* on the radio in 1978! Also once again, there were two things that _really stood out_ with VAN HALEN's sound.
*ONE: **_Eddie Van Halen's guitar._* *NOBODY...and I do mean NOBODY* sounded like Eddie Van Halen ever before. That style of playing resulted in Eddie creating a *whole new paradigm in guitar!*
Eddie was more than just a player, he was an inventor. His homemade, *Frankenstrat guitar,* mods to his amps, and unique style of playing with two-handed taps, harmonics and dive bombs were what he was known for! You simply cannot overstate Eddie's importance and influence of guitarist that came after him. Just like the BEATLES were the catalyst to a generation of kids all wanting to start bands in their garages, so too was Eddie the catalyst to a generation of kids wanting to play metal guitar in the 80s!
Though not as influential as Eddie, nevertheless, *David Lee Roth* was still a huge influence and very much responsible for VAN HALEN's unique sound and concert performance.
With the combination of his unique vocal style...the signature screams and dynamic range along with his truly incredible stage presence, looking like a combination of a circus acrobat and a Kung fu fighter, his unstoppable energy had him running, leaping and kicking, from the first note of the concert to the last...he never appeared to be out of energy, even as they walked off stage at the end of the show.
Additionally, he was a smooth talking pro when it came to his frontman duties. He had a unique way of making the audience keep their eyes and ears always tuned to him! _Truly an original._
So although Journey were/are an incredible band with an incredible sound, I honestly just cannot see them as having any influence over the future of 80s metal's sound that even approaches the influence of BOSTON and VAN HALEN.
I consider Boston, Don't look back, and Third stage to be among the best albums ever released
Why hasn't he mentioned all the songs Elvis ripped off ? I'll wait
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Who are you asking? Your comment seems to be a bit of a non sequitur.
Good morning Professor and gang. We're going to be Cryin' over this one.
Good morning!
@Whisper_292 good morning
My cousin Nancy has a daughter named Jamie!! Jamie hates this song because everyone sings it to her!! I love the song!! It had a different sound from other bands in that era!!
Very cool!
It’s a cute one!
I remember when Van Halen's first album came out. It rocked harder than anything else for a number of years, it truely was in a league of its own. Played that cassette til it was worn out
Amen!
Even the album cover blew people away ("What is _this_ ?!" etc).
Their cover of You Really Got Me…it really got a lot of people.
Never like a comment with a simple word misspelled
OMG, an imperfection
VH brought it. Sampling is a short measure of the original, this was theft. When VH settled, you have to let it go. Oh, and fire the manager for allowing it for $5K. Should have been $5K plus royalties. Thanks Adam!
How is it it theft??? He paid 5K for it...
@@rmbuilder1 It wasn't theft, I get VH was pissed that this happened but clearly it was the fault of their management, who apperantly had the authority to license the music. I would hope that whoever took the that $5k was fired on the spot and VH established somes rules that their music can not be licensed without the bands consent.
We have an accountant in my city named "Jamie S. Cryan". Not kidding.
Imagine the hell this Jamie has caught over the years😅
Cruel parents
Thanks for clearing up the whole situation. Tone Loc wasn’t actually a “thief”; VHs management was just stupid and didn’t handle things with much wisdom. At least VH was exposed to a different audience who gained a new interest and respect for a category of music they probably didn’t know much about or care about until they heard something that cool.
Thanks for saying this. Can’t just throw around that word “thief”. It’s a very serious accusation.
Wild Thing and "Weird" Al's (Gilligan's) Isle Thing - which was my introduction to the Tone Loc piece, are da BOMB!
Couldn't be done without Jamie's Cryin', but WOW what a song - Were the girls in the video copying Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love"?
Like you, I was a big fan of Casey’s Countdown, and I always rooted for my favorite songs to do well, but there is a logical reason why a lot of these singles didn’t chart higher, which is that people bought the album instead.
For those of us who were on a budget in those days, we had to decide if we just liked the song, or whether we were willing to lay down the money for a whole album. If we already knew and loved the artist (e.g. Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd…) we didn’t mess with the single, we went straight to the album.
We were also blessed to have had the Album Oriented Rock (AOR) radio format, which allowed us to hear album cuts from these artists. Those kinds of stations were gold, and really transitioned me from records to albums.
When a band like Journey came out with “Escape”, I had already liked some of their songs that I’d heard on the radio, and the first single was so good, I took the chance on the album. Even though I liked the 3rd and 4th singles even more, I didn’t need to buy them. Ultimately, bands who sold millions of albums didn’t really need a big single to sell their music.
When the first Van Halen album hit the AOR format, we got to hear “Eruption-You Really Got Me”, “Ain’t Talkin Bout Love” and “Running With the Devil”. There was nothing that sounded like that on the radio, and most of us went to the album without hesitation. When an unknown bands debut sells over 10 million copies, you don’t worry about the singles at all.
I like the AI summary option that's towards the bottom from the description. It really gives an accurate description of what's talked about in the video so you can decide if it's worth your time. Time is money 💰
I would love for you to feature how Chicago's very underappreciated (and burned at Comiskey Park in '79) 'Street Player' was sampled--in very much the same way 'Jamie's Cryin'--in 1996 to become a #1 disco song (ironically), and gave Danny Seraphine, who was living in a fifth wheel, a second chance at a do-over and form his own band.
Great idea! I loved all 1970s Chicago, I loved disco and I loved that song. Thanks for the further info!
I was a HUGE fan of Van Halen when this album was released. Played the vinyl til I nearly wore it out. When they opened for Sabbath in Seattle, they did an afternoon rock radio call-in spot, as bands would. I started calling to get a spot on the phone the instant the interview started. I got thru and actually had a chance to ask a question of 'Master' Eddie himself. 🤩 I asked how he achieved "the sound" on Eruption. "You'll just have to come to the show and find out." I said "You know it! I got my ticket." He said "Great. We'll see you there!" DJ: "Thanks for the question. Next caller..." I even did a VH song at an air-guitar contest.
Anyway, about Jamie's Cryin', there were so many great tracks on that album, I think it just got lost in the shuffle. That album was their Magnum Opus.
I have to figure VH got "rat salad" from a Black Sabbath song title of the same name. GREAT STUFF!
Yes they did!
Black Sabbath is my jam!
Great detective work!
Good morning PROFESSOR!!! Another great job. Thank you for all that you do for us mortals.
Ha ha. Thanks my friend.
I was in Jr. High School, 7th Grade, when I first heard "Jamie's Crying". I remember it came out early '78 and my friends and I played that song all summer and into the fall when I started 8th Grade. Me being African-American, some of us didn't want to admit to liking or listening to some Rock bands but Van Halen was the s**t. A few years later when Rapper's Delight hit the airwaves, everybody wanted to be the next DJ, rapper, graffiti artist or breakdancer / pop-locker to make it big. I gravitated towards the DJing and turntablism. Once sampling popped up, a lot of musicians didn't like the fact we were all trying to incorporate the turntables and sampling into live bands. We would make beats on the Roland 808 and 909 then cut and scratch our favorite songs to the beats and "Jamie's Crying" was one of my favorites to mix and scratch with. Countless other songs too but J C was one of them. In the beginning of the sampling era our attitude towards the artist was, since this song isn't being played on the radio anymore or as much as before, we could bring it back with a new twist on it. We always hoped our favorite artist would hear what we were doing with it and maybe we would end up working with them in that aspect.
We had no idea about the legalities of publishing and copyright infringement, it wasn't our intent to "steal" the song, it was "Hip-Hop" and all we wanted to do was remixes and/or play our favorite songs to the new beats we were making. Once the sampling aspect of Hip-Hop started catching on and getting popular, the "money people" started taking over and that's when the lawsuits came. Man, I could go on and on about this but...
In a recent comment I said that the DNA remix of "Tom's Diner" is an example of how collaborative music _should_ work. "Jamie's Cryin'" and "Wild Thing" is an example of how it can go wrong if egos and lawyers get in the way.
DNA didn’t remix Tom’s Diner… They took Soul 2 Soul’s “Keep on Moving/ Back to Life” 12” dance mix (Tommy Boy I think) and blended them in one track. I used to do it live with both on vinyl on my SP1200’s in 1989/90 😎👍
@@EmetYAHU Mashup or remix, I think my point still stands. Suzanne Vega handled it well and everyone was happy; it's hard to find a loser there. When such works get hit with lawsuits, it's hard to find a winner.
@@EmetYAHUsoul to soul was on virgin records...
I ran across an old school friend around 1980. We both played guitar as kids but in the meantime I had switched to drums while he stayed with guitar. We were jamming and during a lull, just off the cuff I played a drum intro. I "thought" I was playing the intro to D'yer mak'er by Zepplin but he said "oh cool, Jamie's Crying". I knew "of" VH but had not yet gotten into them at that point so never heard of the song and was like, what? who? . He knew how to play it so I learned it. That was really my introduction to VH.
***PROF. CRIES FOUL WHEN A CLASSIC #1 (IN OUR HEARTS) 70's ROCK TRACK TURNS INTO A RAPPIN' 80's PARTY TUNE, FOR ALL THE "WLD THINGS" OF THE ERA....*** ....well, Prof. educates me once AGAIN! ...I had no idea "Jamie's Cryin' was slated to be VH's 1st release! ....I thought it was a LP track 'gone good'! ....Go figga.....(cont.)
.....BUT, since it's a "#1 In Our Hearts", let's see how it did, when it was #2, Feb. 1989.....
10. You Got It (The Right Stuff) - New Kids On The Block
9. Walking Away (7" remix) - Information Society
8. What I Am - Edie Brickell & The New Bohemians
7. She Wants To Dance With Me - Rick Astley
6. When I'm With You - Sheriff
5. The Lover In Me - Sheena Easton
4. Lost In Your Eyes - Debbie Gibson
3. Born To Be My Baby - Bon Jovi
2. ***Wild Thing*** - Tone Loc (12:28)
1. Straight Up - Paula Abdul
....and Tone doesn't realize how MUCH a "Wild Thing" EDDIE was at the time!! (15:19) ...haa-HAA!! ...keep Wildin', Prof.! ; )
Thanks my friend! Look at those charts...Starting to teeter. ha ha
How you pop those comments out always blows me away.
At least Edie Brickell’s song sounds so new and fresh.
Was a huge fan of Boston in the 70s and when Van Halen came out in the 80s...mind blown! I lived their harmonies and energy.
2 Live Crew sampled "Aint Talkin About Love" for "The F Shop".
10 years old in 1978 and my neighbor friend who was 15, I think, somehow got possession of his first car, a late 60s Plymouth Satellite and drove it. He invited me to go fishing with his cousin and I had to sneak off to do this because Mom would have never allowed me to go with him driving at his age. I'm in the back seat, he has an 8-track playing and all of a sudden Runnin' With The Devil starts playing. Even with the low quality 1960s speakers I was blown away. Almost like an out of body experience. Nothing but me and the song playing. Ted Nugent's Wango Tango played next and I begged my friend to replay RWTD!!
I've said before how little regard I've got for DLR as a vocalist I'll say at this point that "Jamie's Cryin" is one Van Halen song that I did enjoy hearing when I used to listen to Classic Rock Radio and it was in semi-regular rotation. I didn't even realize until now that it was sampled that way. I'm sure it's no coincidence that both "Wild Thing" and "Bust a Move" were simultaneously included in Uncle Buck.
Exactly. Same writer
Did you not like his voice?
I do not consider Roth a real vocalist, @xxlilly_playsxxkiz9980 . He's a great lyricist and Melody writer, and I can't deny did he did much to make Van Halen salable as a live act, but his voice leaves a whole world to be desired. I feel no shame in saying that.
@@ericbgordon1575 and I don’t blame you for saying that. He is over the top. But sometimes his charisma is all you need to go far in the rock and roll world.
@@ProfessorofRock Not exactly just one writer, Professor. They had the same three writers, Marvin Young, Matt Dike and Michael Ross, but also Anthony Terrell Smith wrote part of “Wild Thing.”
I was in the 8th grade when that album dropped. I played the crap out if it. Every song rocks. Feel your love tonight, little dreamer get over looked a lot, but theyre awesome. My dad even liked ice cream man. "Oh my my". Great presentation. 👍🏻
I was happy to hear Jamie's Cryin' as a staple on classic rock radio. The song deserved better when it came out, but at least it got some airplay in a later life.
Love the video and brief history lesson on this song, VH is one of those great bands that had success with multiple lead singers and I personally think this story just adds to their legacy! That Tone Loc was also most likely to make his most iconic song off is also incredible, plus let’s also not forget the Robert Palmer-themed video that accompanied the song, clear evidence that early rappers were paying attention to rock music, as the mashups were getting popular. Far as I’m concerned, the fans won, royalties and recognition aside.
Jamie's Crying was played all the time on KISW in Seattle back in 78/79👊🤘
Man I remember buying that first album in 1978 when I just turned 16 and couldn’t wait to see a concert.
The Mandela Effect hit me hard here…I always thought it was “Janie’s Crying.” Now I feel a little silly for thinking that the last 35+ years 😂
dude, SAME!
I would bet it's thanks to the Aerosmith song "Janie's Got A Gun"
This is the video that led me to this channel. Great videos. I'm glad I discovered this channel. It's easy to watch with interesting info. Keep up the good work.
Van Halen have always been my favorite rock band both the
original with David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar but I've always preferred the David Lee Roth years but they did have a few good
ones with Sammy though, my favorite VH song was and still is
Dancing the Night Away which is the first song i heard from the band
and I still miss Eddie and his great guitar thanks for the memories
Professor and until next time thank you.🎶🎶🎤🎸🎸🎹🥁🎶🎶
Roth VH is definitely my favorite VH though they were always good.
Same here. The Smiths and Van Halen for me.
@@ProfessorofRock I need to try The Smiths at some point.
I was one of those scooping up pieces of my brain off the floor. A friend of a friend wanted us to check out this album he'd picked because the cover looked cool. He played it through custom 250 W speakers he had built himself.
To be honest, "Jamie's Crying" has never been my favorite track. But the intro to "Running With The Devil" leading into "Eruption" was mesmerizing. I was a guitar player, still am, but I couldn't do anything like that, still can't.
Nobody played the way he did.
Was able to see the Van Halen first tour at the Oakland Arena when they opened and blew away Black Sabbath. They played the entire album, less song #1 on side B of the album. I think that was 'Jamie's Cryin' that they skipped.
@mutantryeff - I saw them on that same tour at Madison Square Garden, my very concert ever. They did blow Sabbath away.
Really? I wonder why?
So cool!
I saw them live three or four times. DLR has so much presence that there's just no other live band like them.
They did everything except Jamie's Crying and Ice Cream Man.
You got me dude. This and the Cinderella Nobody's Fool...ya got my subscribe! Love your informative reporting style, but your delivery makes it seem like you were there when they were saying and doing these things. Bravo
Man accusing theft when it was legally attained. Seems suspicious.
You are an an amazing source of random rock reportage. I love it!
I guessed this was gonna be Jamie's Cryin'/Tone Loc from the thumb.
Barry Gibb, Bee Gees, should be credited for 'Grease'. So 2 Gibb songs in the top 5 then.
Oh, and nice specs btw 🤓👍
I truly don’t understand how rappers are allowed to “sample” songs but others have been sued to oblivion for using a similar chord progression that everyone uses!
P.S. 5 days later, I had no idea my comment would be so controversial. I admit I was only going off what I had heard that rappers constantly sampled songs. I don’t listen to rap so don’t know anything about that world. There are obviously strong opinions about it and it’s true that I didn’t understand. I still think rappers should write their own music but if they got permission to use the original music I apologize for slandering anyone.
Because nobody ever wanted the bad publicity of suing a minority, could you imagine the backlash? "They're keeping them down!!!" would be the only thing people would say about it.
"Those 🤬 entitled rappers. Grrr!"
Take it easy. That was many decades & lawsuits ago. Nowadays, sampling is credited & royalties paid to the original creators.
Soon as I hears 'Wild Thing', I knew that drum break from a mile away! Didn't know Tone' Loc stole the riff. That's what lawyers are for, I guess.
Then you probably wouldn't understand why Andy Warhol is respected as an important and revolutionary artist. He didn't design Campbell's soup labels, he didn't photograph Marilyn or Elizabeth Taylor, and he most certainly didn't paint The Last Super, but he did present it to you in a new way. Some artists use crayon, clay, guitars, cameras, and paint to make art. Some artists use art to make art. What is a collage? What is a mixtape? Some people have 2 feet facing the same direction. They are in a tunnel. They have a collapsible telescope. They take turns closing one eye and looking through the telescope down the tunnel in the direction their feet are facing. Behind them in the warehouse is a turntable scratch and mix competition simultaneously happening with the freestyle battle rap finals.
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Oh God he was awful, his art was awful and his movies were even worse, the only reason he achieved the status he did was because the 60's was the era of the freak and critics wanted to be big shots for being the one who discovered the next big freak, and I'm from his hometown of Pittsburgh and I'll say that, if I'd have any reason to support him it'd be the hometown connection but the reality is he was so bad I can't even do that.
It's funny that you said that they could have called themselves RAT SALAD as there was actually a band by that name here in Australia. I know this because my brother used to be a roadie for them, I still have a record that they made. Great channel mate, brings back a lot of memories.
Sounds like that Van Halen should have been mad at their manager not Tone Loc.
"It wiped the slate clean to let the 80's really start..." Great line! Awesome song that still rocks.
As for sampling: as long as it's not completely ripping off the whole song, I'm OK with it. I think it takes a lot of creativity to take a beat and a riff and work it into a whole other song.
I like how you use Van Halen and Boston as getting ROCK MUSIC going again. I was never a big Van Halen fan but you are sooooo correct in your thoughts!
Thanks!
The concept that Boston and / or Van Halen saved rock and roll is just what some people like to think and say. While Boston's and Van Halen's debut albums were great and had invigorating sounds, rock had not stopped before their releases. Rock acts like Chicago, Bob Dylan, The Eagles, Peter Frampton, Wings, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones and Fleetwood Mac were all over the radio and music stores in the 1976 months before Boston’s debut album release. They had #1 albums; Boston's debut peaked at #3. Van Halen's debut album peaked at #19. Of course some rock albums like "Rumours" were still mega sellers at the time of Van Halen's debut album's release.
We were so blessed with so much good music that some of the very best didn’t make the top ten…just no room. I loved the story about Van Halen rolling up in a tank. I laughed out loud. I hope the neighbors weren’t watching! You just get better every day and with every show. Take care of yourself. We need you around to keep us informed on the music that flows through our veins.
Wild Thing was kept out of #1 by Paula Abdul's Straight Up in Feb of 1989.
Tone Loc hit #3 with his follow up Funky Cold Medina
Medina riff strikes me as stolen from a Rolling Stones song, but I can't place it. Most rap is ripped off from SOMEWHERE. ..
@@jeanclaude7018 Funky Cold Medina samples Christine Sixteen by KISS
@@johnmacdonald6213 so THAT'S it. Haven't heard that since the 70s, when sixteen sounded like old age to me...
@@jeanclaude7018 Honky Tonk Women is the song.
@@jeanclaude7018 it's Honky Tonk Women by The Rolling Stones
@15:00 fistfight between Eddie VH and Tone Loc? Eddie gets credit for being wiry and a little crazy, but TL was beefy and def knew how to throw hands. EVH was wise to keep quiet.
“After which, they would also ‘settle’ on bass player Michael Anthony”.
Ooof.
I’ve been waiting on this episode for a few years now! Thank you!
So it wasn't stolen, the rapper paid $5000 for it's use, smh click bait title smh
Wikipedia says the Van Halen members have song writing credits. Pretty sure they eventually got some royalties.
I've never heard Wild Thing in Jamie's Cryin, never heard of the problem until now, and listening to both, I still can't hear it. Some people get all bent out of shape over nothing.
Yeah, Van Halen 1 is one of those rare occurrences where there are no misses - all great songs. In my high school days, this album was essential listening and we all dug it. Cheers, bro!
My opinion is basic; Van Halen had ten years and every opportunity to make “Jamie’s Crying” a hit. Tone Loc did something to make it work. Sampling in those days was innocent and essential for street performers. There was nothing set up to compensate the original artist so how could Tone Loc and everyone else be on the up and up? Look at all the great music we would’ve been deprived of if those young artists didn’t borrow.
Look at all the great music we would have been deprived of ?
I agree. Thank God for sampling!
@@RW-bt6ex Beastie Boys albums.
Well worded, Kenny!
@KennyRider137 James Brown might disagree as to how innocent it was.
What I love most about this channel is every subject matter on a specific song or album always refer to my 7777 CD collection and usually I have it 🙂
Van Halen was the best rock band with the best guitarist back then.
Amen!
They stood out
@@marktait2371I doubt having a background in piano would make a guitarist particularly unique since it's very common for guitarists to also play keyboards.
Aside from raw talent an important factor in Eddie Van Halen's originality was that he was blessed to have never had any formal training.
Formal training is fine for most people but it can thwart creativity in many ways. Innovation is often hastily admonished as "doing it wrong" and discouraged and one's ability to develop melodies is squashed as everything is seen in terms of formal chord progressions.
I remember just sort of jamming and noodling with friends of mine and one of their girlfriends told my friend that was improvising on guitar something like "Ooh, that sounds really cool!" and the nerdiest amongst us, who had a lot of formal training and music theory, dismissed it condescendingly as "Just a 1-4-5 progression" or some such.
The thing is, what the guitar player was playing _did_ sound _very_ cool and original, but my over trained other friend was too geeked out to hear it; everything was just a progression to him etc.
He could play covers well but could never come up with anything original anyone would want to listen to.
Nobody can beat Eddie!
@@b.g.5869 Eddie and Alex both took piano lessons from a young age. This is well documented. It's just that Eddie never learned to read musical notation with proficiency.
Feel the rhythm with your hands
(Steal the rhythm while you can)
Spoonman
Speak the rhythm on your own
(Speak the rhythm all alone)
Spoonman
Save me
@maryporter6665 They're wearin' steel that's bright an' true oh, oh, oh, oh
To build a dream for me an' you ah-hahhh To build a dream for me an' you ahhhh yes they do
They choose the path where no one goes
Blackhole sun...
The Magical Mystery Tour
Is waiting to take you away
Waiting to take you away
Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Toward the Moon or to the Sun
The monoliths the rainbow connection
Alanis! I love the t-shirt!!! Prof, you should feature her or one of her songs.
Ironic might be her best known but I always enjoyed Head Over Feet.
Will do!
@@TerrickTerran I love most of her work, but my favorites are All I Really Want and Eight Easy Steps.
I am so very lucky to have been able to see Eddie play live during the OU812 tour. Van Halen is a staple in the rock era and they will always be one band who set the standard
My favorite version of van Halen with David Lee Roth.
Thanks!
The only version. I love Sammy Haggar, but that ain't Van Halen. Cherone is cool, but only with Extreme.
Those first 5 albums are fire, or should I say ,"On Fire".
Along with Eruption and Ice Cream Man, "I'm The One", have the best and killer solos or riffs you can think off. Man, they blew my mind!! Man, VH and Boston and The Cars hold the best debut albums in history.
Their debut album is still my favorite.
One of the best EVER!
There's not even a close second.
@@ProfessorofRock For Sure!!! :)
@@jamessherosick2747 One of the best debuts ever!
One of my to
I remember "Jaime's Crying" being in constant rotation on the local hard rock station. It's now the "classic rock" station, and that VH track is still in constant rotation.
"Rat Salad" was a Black Sabbath song (actually a drum solo).
Yes, it was Sabbath's "Moby Dick" basically.
I pointed out that "Rat Salad" was essentially to Sabbath what "Moby D*ck" was to Led Zeppelin and it was removed.
Apparently because of the second word in the title as originally spelled without an asterisk 🤔?
In DLR's autobiography he says he told Ted he wanted to really take care of his voice and Ted yelled "Someone get him a joint and a burger!"
🤔 If that's how you really feel, did you get permission or pay royalties or demonitize this video for the music you used. He paid. And then he paid again. What of you?
I mean technically under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work, including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports, so there would be no need for him to pay royalties, but I get what you're saying. Implying tone loc stole the song when his team did in fact pay what was asked is a poor choice of words. VH management is the ones to blame for that one. Tone didn't steal it.
@@anothergamingchannel2656 Granted. Thank you.
When I was in 4th grade, 1984 was a prize for jumprope for heart. My friend won the album, I discovered rock and talked her into giving me the cassette. The rest is history 🤘
Hey, y'all.
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Goods morning, Whisper!
Hello, Whisper!
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