+Voicecolors i just read part of an interview about that very thing. Apparently, Vai had to do re-takes, because the director, or whoever it was, didn't think he was messing up bad enough
@@martinsaihueque8836 I heard a guitar prodigy Tina S play the part, and while she was only 14 at the time, she was already a great guitar player. She was able to play it, but not so crisp clear as it was in the movie. It's clear a master guitarist recorded that. And since Steve Vai is one of the best on the planet, it sounds unlikely they hired someone else to record that part. Especially since he already acts in the movie.
@@leerobbo92 All the slide guitar is indeed Cooder. All the rest is Vai. It was originally Ry Cooder and Arlen Roth. Then the film's producer's made a last-minute change during production and brought in Vai
seriously have you seen how kirk hamett played the live intro for nothing else matters? he played half a step down from the supposed B scale and it sounded plain wrong /watch?v=k-3xT7CAMd0
Ralph Macchio did a very good job in this movie making it look like he was actually playing his Guitar solo. Seriously, it's not that easy as a non-musician to make it look like you can actually play an instrument.
I did,it was right after he left Zappa and was playing little dives with a 3 piece.Flexible just came out and my friend gave me 2 tickets to see him play a Filthy McNastys,I stood there with my mouth open ,right at the front of the stage ,maybe 75 people were there . I walked up to him and asked for an autograph and a pick and said "how can anyone play like that ? " He just smiled and said " practice " ,to which I said , "to hell with that ,I'm switching to bass,and I did for a year ,but I went back to guitar , my teacher and friend was Randy Rhoads, and eventually my friend who also played guitar and had the same teacher said I need to get back out there a play guitar ,so I did! Until I switched back to bass again , and now I just play guitar for fun ,which makes it much more pleasant !
This is the very most shocking moment ever in a rock guitar history!!! No-one will never make fun of Steve Vai except himself sometimes but what he has given to hardrock guitar is so amazing and full of musical ideas and ways of express himself musically. There is no-one like Steve and hopefully will never be lousy copies.
Steve Vai played both parts. Ry Cooder acted his part in the movie, but Vai played the actual recordings. Finger picking also has a different tone than playing with a plectrum. He wasn't saying guitar players couldn't pick that fast, only that it has a different tone.
im pretty sure Ralph Macchio actually spent ALOT of time learning how to play guitar, he didnt actually play it himself, but its closer than most RUclips cover-fakes iv seen.
Indeed; while he didn't perform the movie pieces himself, he spent a lot of time working with Arlen Roth trying to approximate the performances convincingly and, for the most part, did so really well.
first saw this movie back in the day... what an impact it had for a little guy.. thank you steve, karate kid, and whatwashisname director and then something about bread
AHH! Se esses caras soubessem que esse filme iría influenciar musicos por todo o planeta ´por muitos anos , eu conto até hoje 28 anos e quem sabe por quanto tempo mais , abençoados sejam os produtores desse filme lendário.
Steve Vai is amazing & seeing play live is an experience I highly recommend. I seen Steve Vai the 1st time in 86' with David Lee Roth (Yankee Rose & Tobacco Rd) & then I seen him with Whitesnake then on the G3-Tours 3Xs & solo 2X's ...once with Devon Townsend as his singer & 2nd guitar player & I had the pleasure meeting Devon at his high-rise apt. where my friend also lived ..I helped Devon bring up his custom Ibanez guitars & mixing boards up to his apt. & it was a 1yr later when I seen him play with Steve Vai in Vancouver at The Commodore Ballroom for the 'Sex & Religion' Tour & if you aren't familiar with Devon Townsend , check out his history.
Steve Vai played both sides of the guitar duel, while acting as Jack Butler, the devil's guitarist. Ry Cooder recorded the slide parts and produced the soundtrack.
It must have been hard for Steve to fake those mistakes (not in the pride sense of it, he has enough skill that making those types of (bad) sounds on his guitar must be difficult)
+Maceta I never said he din't! I don't buy it 'cause as a musician is very easy to tell, i just say he is better at faking karate moves (i also know martial arts)
... and Ralph did it with only 21! ;) That a boy! What's meaner is he did so on a tele standard, if there is any electric guitar out there separates the men from the boys it's that... A tele when played well high-ten's the tones, but every one single mistake sticks out like a poinsettia on a snowbank.
I've seen this seen a dozen times, but I've never thought to actually watch the movie. I have no idea how we got to this point, but I imagine that the Ralph Macchio character moved to a new town when his mom got a new job, and the Steve Vai character showed him up in a guitar duel...possibly on the beach. So that old black dude taught Ralph some sick guitar skills by having him do a bunch of chores and shit.
Why did classical music win? The whole movie is about staying away from classical education and find your soul in music. And when the show down starts he needs a classical piece to defeat the blues. What lesson is it they want us to learn?
(Classical) music does not have anything to do with it's education. Music itself is about quality. It has to be absolutely and 100% there. Doesn't matter if blues, rock, soul, classical…whatever. Music is music. It only comes down to whether you like it or not. Music (while listening to it) has nothing to with how it's tought or where it comes from. It should just be good. And you're not trying to tell me that Paganini (aka the devil's violinist) isn't good….are you? Maybe not your style…but he was simply fabulous. And you can find your soul in any kind of music. Your call.
I took the lesson to be that the lad shouldn't turn away from anything genuinely musical. He turns to blues for good inner reasons, but he also has to re-find the music he rejected. As a musician myself I think that's a good lesson.
therealsweep1 in the beginning his teacher tells him he cant be a master of 2 arts so he should choose classical or blues but not both. i believe that is the moral: you have to choose your 1 art, or it chooses you. of course this is bullshit as lots of musicians are good at classical , jazz, rock etc...ray charles for example. ok maybe not lots...i dunno maybe his teacher was right afterall? damn im confused. maybe we're rading too much into this. its just karate kid with a tele.
Jesse Heinonen I think he's actually quite right, he may be a great guitar player, but he's not a great musician/composer. Same goes for some other outstanding virtuosos like Satriani or, to a lesser extent, Eric Johnson. You can like their stuff, but were it not for their sheer skills they'd not be praised, unlike some other musicians.
Nordzumu Well actually, the reason I like their stuff is their composing. Satriani is not that technical, but he happens to be one those few guitarists who can make mere guitar sound listenable. And then again, Steve Vai has introduced many new things to composing. Actually I think that Steve Vai is one of the most influential composers nowadays, because he has shown that music is not merely tones and rhythm. I would say that Steve Vai is better composer than most other musicians today. His music at least sounds like art.
@BenCarriganx ... the funniest thing is that actually a lot of the guitar playing in the film was by Ry Cooder, who did most of the soundtrack. I am happy to put you straight on that point.
This bit of music is Vai,it's called Eugene's trick bag.The scene before this where the are cutting head's.It's actually Ry Cooder playing (Ralph's) slide guitar part's.B4 anyone tell's me I know it was Paganini who wrote the composition.Vai just changed it a bit.
Don't get me wrong but I love the way Steve Vai plays guitar. However, it makes me feel better about myself when I see him struggle at playing guitar. :-)
Steve Vai (that's the guy who's playing the red superstrat in this duel) played it in the studio for the sound track...the guitar he was using was the "Charvel Green Meanie"...that was a 24-Fret axe...my cousin has a Hamer Californian that's got 27 Frets...I can play this piece on any of my guitars...you know how you hit that last high note?!? Fret the High E string on the Pickup that's in the Neck Position
Good thing I read the comments! I was about to post something similar...kind of awkward to see that Telecaster sounding like a shredding machine, lol...
Vai, of course, played the pieces you referred to, but if I may put in a word of defense for Ry Cooder: If you listen to some of the duets he's recorded with Indian masters, (completely unlike any of his blues work), you'd realize he's capable of playing whatever he puts his mind to.
Imagine how hard it was for Steve to play all these notes wrongly, he deserves an oscar, what an actor !
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TheRealEzzy Glad i did it. Thanks man
+Voicecolors i just read part of an interview about that very thing. Apparently, Vai had to do re-takes, because the director, or whoever it was, didn't think he was messing up bad enough
+Voicecolors movie name pls
Jorge Daniel
crossroads
We should all appreciate the Steve Vai was trying his best to pretend to suck.
looks like Mr. Miyagi finally taught him how to sweep.
1 person in fifty will get that joke but yeah. Funny.
oh i remember that one
Wax On, Wax Off
Well played Sir... and to that i take my hat off
LMAO!!!!!!!!!
and steve never used a 22 fret again!
The only real acting Vai did in this film was pretend he couldn't top Macchio.
Especially since he actually played both parts.
@@johncrafton8319 I think macchio's part was not played by Vai. But I'm not sure. I will ask it someone who is a Vai's fun and meet him in person.
@@martinsaihueque8836 I heard a guitar prodigy Tina S play the part, and while she was only 14 at the time, she was already a great guitar player. She was able to play it, but not so crisp clear as it was in the movie. It's clear a master guitarist recorded that. And since Steve Vai is one of the best on the planet, it sounds unlikely they hired someone else to record that part. Especially since he already acts in the movie.
@@martinsaihueque8836 I'm pretty sure the Paganini part was played by Vai. The earlier bluesy parts were played by Ry Cooder.
@@leerobbo92 All the slide guitar is indeed Cooder. All the rest is Vai. It was originally Ry Cooder and Arlen Roth. Then the film's producer's made a last-minute change during production and brought in Vai
Steve Vai choreographed every single note in this scene, down to the mistakes.
+blabbityblah movie name pls
Gonssavm crossroads
@@gonssavm4048 crossroads
Only Steve Vai can beat himself, no one else.
+Diego Ambrosio erm I think you're forgetting somebody...his name starts with a "S" and ends with an "atriani"
+MarshallLore hell yeah
Or Eddie Van Halen
+MarshallLore Y E S
+Millhouse Or Eddie Van Halen Of course
So clean sound with no guitar pick... hahahaha
exactly
+Secret EyeSpot it's just movie LOL
But yeah... you must be a flamenco player to do these
I wonder how hard it was for Vai to mess up.
even he couldn't imagine by himself before he acting.. i think.. :)
CHOONGMAN SEO
They probably called in Kirk Hammet to coach him.
Ed Duke reckt
seriously have you seen how kirk hamett played the live intro for nothing else matters? he played half a step down from the supposed B scale and it sounded plain wrong
/watch?v=k-3xT7CAMd0
assassineater145
he truly sucks.
Im sure Vai played both parts lol.
+SWIFTzTrigger He actually did :P
Jonathan Sosa no he didnt.. Cant rember the name of the guy but IT wasnt Steve vai
It was both Steve Vai and Ry Cooder
Yessssssss
Seeing bands like Polyphia becoming mainstream these days gives me hope that we'll get back to this musical era of guitar
Nicolo Paganini, Caprice No 5
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LiLoveLi es el 24
@@erikajazmintuzvega9928 es el 5
Kind of ironic for this scene because it was believed that Paganini made a deal with the devil to be the best violinist.
Niccolo Paganini (1782-1840)
Ralph Macchio did a very good job in this movie making it look like he was actually playing his Guitar solo. Seriously, it's not that easy as a non-musician to make it look like you can actually play an instrument.
No wonder he won, Mr Miyagi taught him those moves on the guitar!
Steve Vai actually does an unconvincing job of playing bad! Ralph does an unconvincing job of playing good!
If there's something Steve Vai is bad at, it's playing wrong.
How many of us have felt like Vai at the end after hearing the real Vai play?! Lol!
all rest i guess :)
I did,it was right after he left Zappa and was playing little dives with a 3 piece.Flexible just came out and my friend gave me 2 tickets to see him play a Filthy McNastys,I stood there with my mouth open ,right at the front of the stage ,maybe 75 people were there . I walked up to him and asked for an autograph and a pick and said "how can anyone play like that ? " He just smiled and said " practice " ,to which I said , "to hell with that ,I'm switching to bass,and I did for a year ,but I went back to guitar , my teacher and friend was Randy Rhoads, and eventually my friend who also played guitar and had the same teacher said I need to get back out there a play guitar ,so I did! Until I switched back to bass again , and now I just play guitar for fun ,which makes it much more pleasant !
i remember it from the credits on the film because i was learning to play slide at the time and would listen to many blues sliders.
Steve Vai's hardest guitar solo is to pretend that he cant do that solo...hahaha
This is the very most shocking moment ever in a rock guitar history!!! No-one will never make fun of Steve Vai except himself sometimes but what he has given to hardrock guitar is so amazing and full of musical ideas and ways of express himself musically. There is no-one like Steve and hopefully will never be lousy copies.
Steve Vai played both parts. Ry Cooder acted his part in the movie, but Vai played the actual recordings.
Finger picking also has a different tone than playing with a plectrum. He wasn't saying guitar players couldn't pick that fast, only that it has a different tone.
so steve vai got beaten by karate kid
Steve vai got beaten by himself he played every guitar piece of the movie, except the slide guitar stuff that was all done by ry cooder
heck yeah... because this is a movie... love it!
im pretty sure Ralph Macchio actually spent ALOT of time learning how to play guitar, he didnt actually play it himself, but its closer than most RUclips cover-fakes iv seen.
Indeed; while he didn't perform the movie pieces himself, he spent a lot of time working with Arlen Roth trying to approximate the performances convincingly and, for the most part, did so really well.
My favorite guitar riffs ever. The 5th caprice was imprinted on me since i first saw this movie as a kid. have to listen to it at least once a week.
absolutely amazing...
fantastic solo!
great movie...
great actors...
steve vai is a genius!
XD...
first saw this movie back in the day... what an impact it had for a little guy.. thank you steve, karate kid, and whatwashisname director and then something about bread
The real Paganini's 5th is so different.
'couse this piece have 1 tone high
AHH! Se esses caras soubessem que esse filme iría influenciar musicos por todo o planeta ´por muitos anos , eu conto até hoje 28 anos e quem sabe por quanto tempo mais , abençoados sejam os produtores desse filme lendário.
It's not fair, he prepared, and his guitar is tuned higher.
One of my all time favorites. I think I'll go watch it again. Cheers. Dave
What's movie name?
Steve Vai should have gotten an oscar for making fake mistakes in a piece that he can play flawless. That's talent!
Steve Vai is amazing & seeing play live is an experience I highly recommend.
I seen Steve Vai the 1st time in 86' with David Lee Roth (Yankee Rose & Tobacco Rd) & then I seen him with Whitesnake then on the G3-Tours 3Xs & solo 2X's ...once with Devon Townsend as his singer & 2nd guitar player & I had the pleasure meeting Devon at his high-rise apt. where my friend also lived ..I helped Devon bring up his custom Ibanez guitars & mixing boards up to his apt. & it was a 1yr later when I seen him play with Steve Vai in Vancouver at The Commodore Ballroom for the 'Sex & Religion' Tour & if you aren't familiar with Devon Townsend , check out his history.
Resumo do duelo: Eugene fica e Steve vai
The music from 0:13 to 0:24 is from Villa Lobos' etude(study) #2 as any classical guitarist would know.
Ouch! I throw my guitar like that, everytime i cant play like Steve Vai :/
чудовий фільм!!!раджу всім!!!дивіться.слухайте-це вічна боротьба ДОБРА і ЗЛА!!!
Best funeral ever
Steve Vai played both sides of the guitar duel, while acting as Jack Butler, the devil's guitarist. Ry Cooder recorded the slide parts and produced the soundtrack.
Daniel san
Everton Ruan também pensei a mesma coisa kkkik
WOW THAT WAS GREAT. LOVED IT.
0:58 i tried this with my guitar.... now i have a plaster
so much awesomeness in only one video
It must have been hard for Steve to fake those mistakes
(not in the pride sense of it, he has enough skill that making those types of (bad) sounds on his guitar must be difficult)
Especially since he's making mistakes on the easy parts.
It's a movie.In fact Vai played both of the solos.
Ok now play this while in the crane stance.
And to think me and my guitar-playin' buds all went to see it on opening night.
The movie, not the duel.
funny. Steve Vai actually played both parts in this guitar battle so I've been told?
*One of the greatest guitar players ever to exist,*
*who can't fucking write 1 truly great song if his life depended on it!, define irony.*
Machino is better faking karate moves than guitar playing! XD
FavioRiveros hahaha! yes, not very good wax on wax off with guitar!
+FavioRiveros that's because you should probably play the guitar and not practice karate
+FavioRiveros i mean, almost every movie about some skill... like.. tennis looks lame to a professional
Actually I think he did a very good job with the mimicking...
+Maceta I never said he din't! I don't buy it 'cause as a musician is very easy to tell, i just say he is better at faking karate moves (i also know martial arts)
best scene ever for me as a guitar enthusiast teen
they should reboot this with guthrie govan vs brad paisley
Cooooool !
Pianist Kiyoshi from Japan.
I subscribed your nice channel.
Paganini = all! Yngwie the best!
No way
I fucking love this movie!
That is the guy of Karate Kid?
Nirvana972 Yes
+Emi_97
Ralph Machio is his name...
Funny part is Steve is the one who recorded this part. Ry Cooder did all he blues riffs
Hey look its karate kid!
GORGEOUS
Steve Vai vs. Skwisgaar Skwigelf
соня
Eliasz Boriskin Sonia?
I remember I could play this few years ago. Now I've forgotten it. AAARGGH. I must find the chord/tab/notes again
actually what is happening to Steve isn't lack of skill it's simply called "tired hands" has happened to me a few times.
Grey Fox actually what happened is that Vai played both the kid and himself on guitar, and screwing up on purpose... for the plot ya know
+ GuKrazE I know that. but let's think they are two different people and it really happened.
+ Grey Fox yeah in that case it's possible that it's just tired hands
ok Dwight Schrute
After Zanzibar, how the hell can you have tired hands Frank? You have a fucking exoskeleton!
Благодарствую!)
epic
why cant steve hit that note? he has 22 frets and a floating trem?
i dont know..just much he is can hit
Cause it's a film :P
... and Ralph did it with only 21! ;) That a boy!
What's meaner is he did so on a tele standard, if there is any electric guitar out there separates the men from the boys it's that... A tele when played well high-ten's the tones, but every one single mistake sticks out like a poinsettia on a snowbank.
Tom Mack
LOL!!! WHat a description, poinsettia in a snow bank!!! AWESOME!
Uuuhmm,,, maybe because IT'S A MOVIE??
Quase que chegaste lá!!!!!!!!!!
Wow Steve Vai get's beat by Steve Vai.
i will never get over how INTENSE that opening is!!!!
1:07 impossible bend
Steve Vai Vs Eugene Nicolo Paganini, Caprice No 5 Crossroads Guitar Duel
Sorry, but Steve Vai is kinda shit at screwing up - he'd probably play the piece better at double speed than believably fake a "mistake" :D
I need to see the movie again !
YMalmesteen 1 Steve Vai 0 ahahahah The King of guitar is Malmsteen !
Vai played both parts in the duel, silly. Try again.
I've seen this seen a dozen times, but I've never thought to actually watch the movie. I have no idea how we got to this point, but I imagine that the Ralph Macchio character moved to a new town when his mom got a new job, and the Steve Vai character showed him up in a guitar duel...possibly on the beach. So that old black dude taught Ralph some sick guitar skills by having him do a bunch of chores and shit.
He learnt the solo at first hear, what more do you want? Satan is the most demanding father ever.
The "solo" is from an earlier, very famous composition. Any neo-classical shredder would know it at "first hear".
Magnificent!
Why did classical music win? The whole movie is about staying away from classical education and find your soul in music. And when the show down starts he needs a classical piece to defeat the blues. What lesson is it they want us to learn?
(Classical) music does not have anything to do with it's education. Music itself is about quality. It has to be absolutely and 100% there. Doesn't matter if blues, rock, soul, classical…whatever. Music is music. It only comes down to whether you like it or not.
Music (while listening to it) has nothing to with how it's tought or where it comes from. It should just be good. And you're not trying to tell me that Paganini (aka the devil's violinist) isn't good….are you? Maybe not your style…but he was simply fabulous. And you can find your soul in any kind of music. Your call.
True, you are 100% right.
the lesson, or moral of the movie is jamie gertz used to be hot
I took the lesson to be that the lad shouldn't turn away from anything genuinely musical. He turns to blues for good inner reasons, but he also has to re-find the music he rejected. As a musician myself I think that's a good lesson.
therealsweep1
in the beginning his teacher tells him he cant be a master of 2 arts
so he should choose classical or blues but not both.
i believe that is the moral: you have to choose your 1 art, or it chooses you.
of course this is bullshit as lots of musicians are good at classical , jazz, rock
etc...ray charles for example.
ok maybe not lots...i dunno maybe his teacher was right afterall? damn im confused. maybe we're rading too much into this. its just karate kid with a tele.
Замечательное исполнение сочинения Паганини! Прекрасно!!!
Steve, i like your technical abilitys, but u truely have no idea how to make good music. Its like good PC without power.
You mean... Really? You serious? Or is it that you just don't like it?
Jess Melvin No, my comment was meant to answer Prisk Pon's comment, sorry if I wasn't clear :D
Jesse Heinonen I think he's actually quite right, he may be a great guitar player, but he's not a great musician/composer. Same goes for some other outstanding virtuosos like Satriani or, to a lesser extent, Eric Johnson. You can like their stuff, but were it not for their sheer skills they'd not be praised, unlike some other musicians.
Nordzumu Well actually, the reason I like their stuff is their composing. Satriani is not that technical, but he happens to be one those few guitarists who can make mere guitar sound listenable. And then again, Steve Vai has introduced many new things to composing. Actually I think that Steve Vai is one of the most influential composers nowadays, because he has shown that music is not merely tones and rhythm. I would say that Steve Vai is better composer than most other musicians today. His music at least sounds like art.
They all have their goods and bads
Man, this is some really hot shit and no mistake!
@BenCarriganx ... the funniest thing is that actually a lot of the guitar playing in the film was by Ry Cooder, who did most of the soundtrack. I am happy to put you straight on that point.
I saw Steve Vai two days ago live. He played things like this with closed eyes and one hand in the pocket :)
This bit of music is Vai,it's called Eugene's trick bag.The scene before this where the are cutting head's.It's actually Ry Cooder playing (Ralph's) slide guitar part's.B4 anyone tell's me I know it was Paganini who wrote the composition.Vai just changed it a bit.
@havelant
Actually he is playing both for the final of the guitar duel.
Don't get me wrong but I love the way Steve Vai plays guitar. However, it makes me feel better about myself when I see him struggle at playing guitar. :-)
u figured that out based on a reply as to who is playing the guitar in this video...clever boy!
It's called Eugene's Trick Bag. Another video that got the title wrong, misleading RUclipsrs everywhere. I learned this in 1992 btw.
Ha great fun by a great guitarist....Music lives! Jack Baker NYC
Still one of Vai's best tones, studio or not, and that red Charvel is bad ass!!!
Great job Daniel San.
bueno Macchio venció a Vai porque el que en verdad tocaba la guitarra era Malmsteen ya que las lecciones de "encerar y pulir" no eran suficientes xD
ganhei o dia com esse video ,
i remembe rthat after seeign this movie i pick up the guitar and i discover ,,, steve vai and van halen
@jazztifiable Yes he did, and Ry Cooder recorded all the slide parts.
el que es un fuera de serie interpretando a paganini es el gran maestro Jhon tapella y su genial manual challenge masters
Awesome, thanks.
Steve Vai (that's the guy who's playing the red superstrat in this duel) played it in the studio for the sound track...the guitar he was using was the "Charvel Green Meanie"...that was a 24-Fret axe...my cousin has a Hamer Californian that's got 27 Frets...I can play this piece on any of my guitars...you know how you hit that last high note?!? Fret the High E string on the Pickup that's in the Neck Position
Good thing I read the comments! I was about to post something similar...kind of awkward to see that Telecaster sounding like a shredding machine, lol...
Steve Vai watching Ralph playing Steve Vai's playing. Vaiception!
love vai's expression he is like "really" -_- "really, kid!?!" LMFAO
Vai, of course, played the pieces you referred to, but if I may put in a word of defense for Ry Cooder: If you listen to some of the duets he's recorded with Indian masters, (completely unlike any of his blues work), you'd realize he's capable of playing whatever he puts his mind to.