Close To 800 Aircraft! The Southwest Airlines Fleet In 2023
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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2023
- The fleet of US carrier Southwest Airlines continues to grow, and grow, and grow! When we covered the airline's fleet last year, the airline had just 736 aircraft. However, the carrier has since added around 40 more aircraft and continues to take delivery of more jets every month. Let's look at the state of the Southwest fleet in 2023 and see if any big changes have taken place for the airline.
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I'm 44 years old, never been in an airport, never been on a plane. Never left the ground. Three days ago, I had my first flight. Chicago Midway to Tulsa, via Southwest. I had nothing but a pleasant experience with this airline.
16 year SWA pilot here. This all checks out. Apparently the Xmas 2022 meltdown cost the company 850 million dollars 😢
Southwest has released an unofficial report saying that they expect to lose $1BN in Q4 of 2022.
Bad time for me to make my only airline investment Southwest
Do not know if you have knowledge of this or not, but how come SW never chose the -900?
Imagine if they’d invested that much in IT upgrades over the past, say, ten years or so…
@@BCrouts06 good question. SWA has always been apprehensive about getting bigger planes. It took them forever to finally get the 800’s.
My wife and I are frequent flyers on Southwest. We love this airline and so do most of their customers. Great prices, 2 bags and a carry on fly free and the crews are always friendly, professional and upbeat. They also have an enviable safety record. None of these positives are reported by the media only the negatives. And there always an abundance those who jump on the, kick em where their down band wagon. Granted they had an unfortunate systems failure during the once in a lifetime winter storm that revealed changes needed But, thank God it wasn’t an accident, that frequently occurs, when there’s a flaw in a system.
This was a very fair and accurate story as always. Thank You.
So what if you have 800 planes if your IT system is 30 years old and strands thousands of passengers and luggage.
Well that's exactly the problem. The fleet got to big for their systems and processes to manage.
And what if all of your ground crew at a major destination decide to quit at once and leave the airline unable to move any aircraft. There were lots of causes for the fiasco. Customers have short memories though. In the long term it will be less than a footnote in their history.
@@hewhohasnoidentity4377 True. This exposed a lot of issues with the carrier. It was a perfect storm brewing for the carrier. reports are now it's gonna cost them 800 million when it's all said and done. That should get their attention to address the issues.
The software in question was apparently designed for an airline one tenth the size of today's Southwest. I heard it could only handle 300 or so cancellations, and once that was exceeded the airline lost visibility of where their planes and crews were, requiring a reboot of the system. And they soon lost visibility of where their passengers and their baggage were. This was an entirely foreseeable system failure, smaller failures and pilot concerns gave sufficient warning. Management's failure to reinvest in a technology upgrade has proven to be a costly mistake, with the flying public paying the price up front, and the company and its shareholders eventually shouldering a burden that could have been prevented.
Systems have been updated. Staff has been increased.
I flew Southwest on January 6th, 2023 and they were just as good of an airline before the crisis in December. It seemed like things had recovered because my flight was on-time, and everything worked seemlessly.
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Lol, I still know people that haven't seen there bags since Christmas.
so you have nothing to compare it to as you weren't affected by that disaster
@@joshworkman6455 Yeah, I wasn't trying to compare anything. He asked about our SWA experiences and this was mine.
Cool story bro. Let's wait until the next winter storm
I've been flying with Southwest Airlines since 2008 when I was an elementary school student. I have flown with multiple airlines including this airline for vacationing in many places and family visits in the Philippines.
Just flew with them last month, will definitely be flying with them again. Very impressed by their service.
I’m watching this video from the wifi on a southwest 737 Max 8!
Super interesting. Did not know about the net gain in fleet I always thought that it was 1 for 1 replacement. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
It's a smart business plan. They sell the older birds and replace them with newer ones and don't have to retrain or change their maintenance. And it lets them scale the fleet to fit the demand. The stock will keep rebounding, they're headed in the right direction.
Very informative video
Thanks 👍
I always had great memories with southwest. I remember my first southwest flight when I was 7 from BWI to MKE and my latest flight on southwest was from BWI to MKE.
Saw N871HK takeoff from DAL yesterday morning.
I would’ve been impacted by these cancellations, as I was supposed to fly from Sacramento to Orange County on December 26th 2022. However, we had to cancel the flight because of a family member’s injury.
The flight that we were supposed to take ended up being canceled.
I've flown on Southwest Airlines dozens of times since 2014
ok thanks for sharing......
Flying from MCI next Saturday to Disney on a Max8!
Bring your wallet. You'll drop a lot of money.
lmk how it goes !
Hi simple flying..I would to ask a favor if you could do a video on Cebu Pacific's fleet...thank you
I make it a rule never to fly around holidays, so I wasn’t impacted by the bomb cyclone craziness. But I fly Southwest all the time the rest of the year, usually 5-6 trips a year. And my take is, for domestic US travel, if Southwest doesn’t fly where I’m going, I drive. I will never set foot on a Delta, United, or American domestic flight again. Southwest is far from perfect, but unlike the rest of them (and we won’t even talk about the likes of Spirit and God-forbid, Allegiant) Southwest treats you like a human being. I recently had a flight from BWI to PHX delayed by around 4.5 hours due to weather. Not Southwest’s fault in any way. But the BWI station manager came on the aircraft before we pushed back and issued every one of the 175 passengers a $100 voucher and his personal apology for our delay. NO other carrier would have even considered that. Likewise, a flight from LAS to FAT go stuck on the ramp at LAS in 113 degree summer heat for about 15 minutes (again, not Southwest’s fault). The cabin filled with jet exhaust fumes, to the point that I had a *massive* headache and two passengers in the back threw up in the aft galley. We had to go back to the gate to get them taken care of. I mentioned this to a friend who is a WN captain, and he told me it’s a peculiarity of the 737NG, and the company’s policy of routing the air conditioning through the APU in the tail because ground idle on the CFM56 doesn’t provide enough bleed air to keep the a/c cool. The problem there is the APU intake is behind the right hand engine’s exhaust plume, so you end up breathing jet fumes. I wrote Southwest an email about this, and a few days later I got a personal reply from Dallas with a $150 voucher and an apology. Again, NO other carrier would have even bothered responding in my experience. Southwest definitely needs to invest heavily in updating its IT infrastructure, and to look at diversifying its fleet before Boeing stops building 737s. But I will continue to fly Southwest and Luv them!
Southwest has learned from their past, they will get better and better
Southwest forever!!!!
last flew with them May of 2022 when my brother and i went from MCI to SAN, then home via SJC to SAN then back to MCI (we drove from San Diego to the bay area to stop at various places along the way then flew home). didnt have any issues then besides maybe being delayed by a few minutes. worst flight we ever had was returning from BWI to MCI back in 2019 when our flight was delayed by 2 almost 3 hours.
Fix operations system.
With more aircraft they should return to EWR or expand to JFK
Can someone explain this to me: How come SW never ordered the -900?
Because they don’t need an aircraft with that capacity. Very simple.
@@j.heilig7239 Thanks.
Can you imagine what would happen if everyone stopped flying Boeing jets.
Just like air baltic with an all a220 fleet...
Air Baltic fleet size: 38. Southwest fleet size: 771.
@@j.heilig7239 i'm talking about using one type of aircraft...not a mix....
its a brilliant concept. The A220 is a great jet. A shame Boeing didnt beat Airbus to the opportunity of stealing it from Bombardier. Instead, they partnered with and then screwed Embraer.
USB power ports and larger storage spaces are all great, but how about try taking off and landing somewhere close to advertised times, and stop insulting people with bogus excuses when you have an issue. Most reasonable passengers would appreciate and accept an honest explanation when an issues does arise, instead of some insulting BS about the weather when that’s clearly not the case.
You used to be a great airline, hope you can make the long haul back from where you are today.
It was weather…guess you’re just too smart
I would still choose to fly Southwest over Spirit, Frontiers. And American Airlines
can you please do a fleet video of garuda indonesia?
Basically the only Max 7 buyer
Allegiant and WestJet have ordered some. Not nearly as many as southwest though
*Allegiant exists*
And they have 234 of them on order. That’s more than the entire production run of a lot of really famous airliners.
@@heidirabenau511 and it’ll be a cold day in hell before I ever set foot on one of their airplanes.
Props to them for singlehandedly keeping the 737-700 alive 👏
What a muddle !
The only airline that dwarves Southwest Airlines is JAL's ZipAir out of Japan.
Day 3 of asking for a fleet deep dive of Austrian Airlines
I already told you to do a fleet wiki for them. They are a small carrier with a small fleet. You can look it all up.
Can you do the air india
Billions for retrofits and special liveries, but not ONE DIME for an IT upgrade - SW Airlines. Do better.
Man
Garuda Indonesia fleet too pleasee
Southwest needs to change their boarding system. People should be able to get assigned seats when they book their flight
Really? Considering that Southwest is the most successful airline in the history of the US Airline industry, I really don’t think they will change their boarding process
SWA really doesn't need to change it. It's one of the reasons they can beat the rest of the "big 4" in price, as they get people in and out faster than any other airline and have the best turnaround times. (And if you don't believe me, the info is out there and can be found).
@OMGILOVEBANANAS faster as in few seconds? Boarding time is same regardless how it's done. The price is cheap when people book tickets in advance. So I don't think it's cheaper it's just the way they advertise
@@sidhusharma1513 no, it’s not. Go find the articles on it
@OMGILOVEBANANAS I don't need to read any articles as I know boarding time is same other airlines.
The airline mostly has b737 max nothing much no variety
well switching over to airbus would be a huge financial hassle for them
It’s how they keep prices so low. Introducing other aircraft will require its own training, pilots/crew, maintenance. When you have a single type fleet then all of your staff can work with all of your aircraft.
@@OoferMotorsports and why would they even want to do that?
They don't make fleet choices for your need for "variety"
@@OoferMotorsportsthrowaway jets don’t have longevity
Stop buying all these planes ….. and pay your employees what they are worth…
Is like Aeroflot ussr royal to Antonov
You mean Tupolev and Ilyushin
Spend more on new planes than their personnel & IT system 😂
and their customer complaints continue to grow and grow and grow
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Why?
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800 of the least well maintained plane in the sky
"upgrading passenger experience" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
by using some 30 year old outdated IT system thus stranding tens of thousands passengers and crew during the holidays
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Southwest needs to replace it's older B737-700 airframes with 263 brand new B737-MAX9 . . . Southwest should convert their existing order for 239 B737-MAX7 to 128 brand new B737-MAX9 & 213 B737-MAX8 . . . an established operator like Southwest could seriously look into launching a full service carrier subsidiary, that will be dedicated to international long haul services only, not domestic . . . if the low cost budget operator can start a full service subsidiary Southwest will be able to provide the maximum number of connection to transiting international long haul passengers by far, compared to any other full service carrier in the world . . . because there's barely a place left in U.S. mainland that Southwest doesn't fly to . . . not even Emirates will be able to match Southwest connections regardless of their proven hub & spoke model . . . but all this is only possible if Southwest intends to launch a full service subsidiary . . .
Budget long-haul airlines never work
They use their smallest -700s for smaller airport services. Only being able to get max 8s or max 9s would mean prices for those smaller airport services would have to go up if they couldn’t fill those planes. Southwest prides itself on being an affordable carrier so that’s not likely to happen.
@@aleksanderc9573 i said a full service subsidiary from Southwest not a long haul budget carrier . . . the full service subsidiary that will cater to international long haul services only . . .
@@dfor if you say so . . .
Southwest needs the MAX 7 because they use the 737-700 to access smaller airport which the -800 and MAX 8 can't access those airports, which is why Southwest briefly considered the A220 during the MAX being grounded and the uncertainty of the MAX being re-certified and the MAX 7 having the risk of being scrapped all together.
Southwest Airlines ruined the 2022 Christmas holiday for MANY THOUSANDS of travelers with their 30-year-old ANTIQUATED computer system! How tragic for all those people whose Christmas was totally RUINED!!
The smart ones of us just stayed home. We knew for days the storms were coming. Just wasn't going to be worth it.
@@johniii8147 Most people made their airline reservations 6 months before the Christmas holiday. They had no way of knowing about weather issues or obsolete Southwest Airlines computer software!
@@websurfin9575 That's actually not true having worked in revenue management. The bookings usually start coming in within 1 to max 2 months of the holiday and many come after that for domestic travel. It's called the booking window. And, just because you have ticket booked doesn't mean you shouldn't reschedule or cancel with such advance notice the storms were coming. Sometimes travel just doesn't work out how you'd like. That's nothing new. Now where i agree with you is Southwest really screwed this up because of their own issues.
@@johniii8147 Rescheduling & changing an airline ticket costs $200.00 per ticket most of the time. Most people can't afford that outrageous change-fee!
@@websurfin9575 They wave those in such periods and southwest doesn't have change fees
Safety first. The 737 MAX's will still be flying in the 2040s, and even if the developed world airlines decide to sell their planes after a couple of decades before they require a pricey comprehensive refurbishment, they will be bought by poorer countries (with weaker maintenance cultures) who will be flying them into the 2070s. Boeing and Southwest should do the right thing, and voluntarily retrofit all planes to a modern crew alerting system, among other modernizations to the cockpit and avionics. The principle of allowing the old less reliable tech to be grandfathered into approvals because the flimsy justification of a single type certification has proven to be a deadly mistake. It has been a factor in hundreds of deaths. FAA and EASA and other regulators should mandate the improvement of MAX safety equipment. Southwest should start the transition on its own terms and schedule, before it is compelled to do so. That would contribute to improving the tattered reputations of Southwest and Boeing with the flying public.
My understanding is the new cockpit will be upgraded but it will take sometime to blend it in tohe production line. then when caught up they will do the ones in service.
I’ve never seen a Southwest airplane waiting at a terminal that wasn’t a 737… can we just be honest that it’s the most uncomfortable and cramped plane a passenger can fly on?
Well that's because their entire fleet is a 737 in one version or another so you're a genius.
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Did you miss the part in the video where he said that Southwests fleet is entirely 737s? Something that most people even casually knowledgable about air travel know.
And I see that you are one of those people who imagines that the 737 is different than an A320. You literally can't tell the difference between them without the safety card. The A320 is no more comfortable. Only in your imagination.
The 737 with the Sky interior is a way more pleasing cabin to spend time in than even a new Airbus 320 family aircraft. The 320 family's fuselage is slightly wider but it isnt recognizable in terms of cabin or seat width. The comfort gripes would only make sense from a pilot perspective where the width and space in the cockpit are more noticeabley different.
Ugh. The last 2 minutes of this video shows laziness by the Simple Flying team to really give accurate information on an event that was more akin to a airline shutting down than just “a lot of cancellations due to weather”.
Southwest gets first in prize in choosing the ugliest color schemes possible.
im guessing you dont like primary colors? haha
Day 4 of asking for a fleet deep dive of Austrian Airlines