Add-E 600W Ebike Kit Video Review
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- electricbikere... The Add-E 600W Kit is exceedingly compact, light weight and easy to remove (for temporary unpowered use) though it does produce more noise than most of the ebike kits I've tested. The bottle style battery pack is beautiful, the cap twists to add power at 50 watt increments up to 250 making it legal internationally, limited top speed of 15.5 mph. Lots of optional accessories including a twist or trigger throttle, the included five magnet pedelec disc isn't super responsive but works well and qualifies as Class 1. Compatible with a wide range of bicycle types but may require extra work to install (completely removing the bottom bracket), solid six month battery warranty. EBR was paid to perform this review #Sponsored We try to be honest, thorough, and fun! Comparison tools, shop directory, and forums at: ElectricBikeReview.com
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If this was an accurate review he would have said this is an utter waste of money and time and I regret even thinking about it. There are no design modifications that can be made to the motor nor battery that would improve the design. Throw it out the window and start over
Adding torque will cause more pressure on the tire, generating more wear and tear on the treads, but torque is needed to actually improve that devices drive power. They did high horsepower hoping to avoid the added wear but ended up with a device that struggles to push a kid that weighs 135lbs. He should have given a 100% honest review 😅 the suggested changes only bring about the inevitable downfall.
I'm a gas bicycle rider, but how that automatic electric drivetrain with the sensors engages in was really awesome! :D Thumbs up!
Always go with the bafang. powerful, relaible, easily sourced, clean replaceable connectors, multitude of battery options, and still very sleek
Apples and Oranges my friend. Bafang is NOT for everyone. It weighs 10=20 pounds plus the large heavy battery. Wires run everywhere. No thanks.
@geraldhenrickson7472 If you park your Bafang bicycle overnight in a saltwater lake, not only will it likely not start up in the morning, but I've experienced this issue numerous times even while under warranty. Their computer chips aren't very waterproof.
I'm an electrician and I have used zip ties a lot in my work. You need a pair of flush cut diagonal cutters with a perfectly flat face. Use this to trim the excess zip tie ends and it will be smooth. No more tearing your hands and fingers up. We called them flush cuts.
I can't beleive that motor is 600watt as small as it is, mad respect!
You can get 2000+ W motors around the same size. Think the brushless motors are more powerful for the size from what I've seen. The brushless motors are basically like high speed stepper motors.
I think the proper phrasing is "I don't believe that's a 600 watt motor."
Not sure why that's so incredible... I have this one on my eskateboard at 42V I've seen it draw over 10A which is 400+W don't see what's so incredible about a 600W claim here.... Enlighten me 😀
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Its an RC motor, they are really very small for the power output. They are however not as torquey and do make allot more noise.
Shaun Husain That motor is not giving him 600 watts. One horsepower is 746 Watts. Look how much that motor struggles to push less than 200 pounds up a modest incline.
600 watts will lift 442 pounds up 1 foot every second. This guy and his bike weigh roughly half that.
So this guy and his bike should be gaining 2 feet of elevation every second.
Even allowing for 25% loss in transferring power to the wheel this motor is nowhere near 600 watts as shown.
So Shaun I get this motor could be a 600-watt motor. Hell I bet this motor could produce more than a horsepower for short periods of time. What I'm saying here is that motor in the video is not producing 600 watts of power. That motor looks to be performing more around the 350 watt level.
I like this review because it says it all in a very diplomatic way. It is not a review on the workshop though, but on this specific product. It points how noisy it is, how complicated it could be to install, how easily it could be stolen, that you need 2 batteries to rely on (260 € each), lack of customer support and many more...
And let's you appreciate it if you're deaf :-)
My advise would be: Don't buy anything you haven't tried by yourself - don't buy online from somewhere without public rating - don't buy if you can't find the same product on big reliable online markets such as eBay, Amazon etc...
Wow! That was very loud. Thanks for taking the time to show this. Even though I did not like the product I did enjoy the review. I was also wondering about the clean up. On this bike, water and mud splash from the tires on the product looked like it was right in line with a great deal of clean up if off road and would cover the motor, and wheel engagement and I would think that if mud got on the tire and the engagement wheel from the motor it would even create more difficulty climbing or pulling, etc. Peace, Reese
Very noticable a lot of work went into this video, thanks for taking the time to show every step👍
I've had mine on my road bike for over a year. It's awesome. It keeps going up to 32mph on my bike.
Is it as loud as this one? Because I've heard that dirt tires make this conversion loud and road bikes and other bikes wouldn't have the issue
where how did u purchase?
On-bike motor and battery system is a Half-baked poor geek’s attempt to make money. This gentleman’s very committed to providing an unusual amount of rich detail, and truth-of-experience.
This sum-up will save you 29 mins of your life: Ridiculously overpriced underperformer.
- you’re welcome...😎
Yes. Thanks. I couldn't watch all of it. Rediculous.
zap sold this 25 years ago!
Yes, i got 5 mins in then turned it off, talk about amateurs...
$1251 for that setup is a RIPOFF!
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paid $1200 for mine at a local bike shop lol way better value .
Ken Bell Artificially inflating prices is used by businesses to give the illusion that a great deal on a product or service is available. It is called False and Misleading Advertizing Tactic.
In this particular case the product is of a poor quality and the service is perfect before the purchase but null after.
Be aware
+Rocky Kox thanks for that.
thats like 200 off a rad power bike
not really with this you still have to buy a bike which on its o is 500+
Great little sanding drum, I can just imagine how nice and smooth your tyre is going be.
+Justin Chapman I have one of these. It really is a sanding drum. The cost of km is 0.30 € in tier usage.
+Justin Chapman Go to min 19:45
Any insight on whether or not it "ruins" tyres? I've had the chance to see the roller in person and it's quite harsh; I'm using marathon schwalbe and am afraid that the speedy friction would tear them quickly. p.s. have you tried it when raining? does it lose friction?
1. I love the stealth aspect of the bike, but it kinda seems like it's ruined by the noise, yeah?
2. I wish I knew enough about bikes that I could be confident blow torching the crank arms
I was looking at these, and finally went with a LEEDS 50 mile 250W front hub. Total weight difference in bike was less than 13 pounds (about 8.8 for battery and about 4 lbs for the hub). I like the simplicity of installation, no crank sensors or anything, just an on off button. It engages immediately to get one across an intersection faster. I paid $1100+ on sale. It keeps pulling past 23mph, and to confirm I registered 23 mph on a police monitor sign going uphill against the wind, pedaling also of course. The watt ratings can mean very different things. My 250W hub motor is probably pulling a lot more than 250 under some conditions and is fairly quiet. It really helps keep the speed up while you still get a good work out. Pedal assist may be better for going slower. The on/off is better for going faster, it doesn't know slow. So in a slow environment, a 2 to 3 second boost keeps the cadence up. In tight quarters, the pull of the front wheel is a lot easier to steer straight than doing so while pushing hard on the pedals. And after a long ride, just coasting with the hub pulling is just so nice. Sometimes you just need a rest. I have never run out of juice, and it always recharges so far in less than 2.5 hours.
You chose wisely. Because add-e is too tiny and vulnerable to do any of these. It has no torque, it is charged in 4 hrs, and forget about water, hill and endurance.
am am not convinced that having a motor drive the wheel direct to rubber will have a good effect on the wheel or the motor... hows it going. Has it broken yet?
I just tested it a bit, the Add-E was a demo so I can't say how well it worked long term but yeah, probably more wear on the tire than hub motors or mid-drive kits :)
It doesn't affect the motor but It distorts the wheel with every turn and the tire wear is absolutely tremendous. In this particular case it is about 0.46 € per Km. The motor breaks because of its week concept. It is just a poor material. In our case it broke many times... Many many times.
It's a common concept in Europe, but with gas engines.
Exposed motor windings. An open ended motor on the bottom of a bicycle. BRILLIANT!!!!
Mine broke down twice under the rain. The seller charged me twice 300 € pretending it was because I miss-connected the wires. Finally I bought a supermarket 500 € real electric bike and it works perfectly and silently and had a serious guarantee...
is it water proof ?
I wonder if this kit destroys tires faster than a proper mid Drive kit attached to the bottom bracket
+OH8STN Yes it does dramatically, making the cost of km 2 to 5 times higher with friction motors than other types.
So basically you pay way too much for a 250W motor that's in a location where it will wear the tire down and collect dirt and grime right off the tire. Whoever came up with this product needs to evaluate their customer value.
Safety tip: zip ties must always be trimmed flush so the tail does not protrude away from the Locking point. The mechanic complains of hand lacerations at 11:05 ...the best way to cut zip ties flush is with the use of Side Cutting pliers that have a small jaws and sharp blade otherwise an exacto knife will work as well, but less safe to use.
Yeah, let's use an angle grinder without its guard, what's the worst it could happen?
It would be nice if the motor were quieter though.
Looks like leg power will have to do it, until some company really perfects it. Which is the company to go with as of 9/29/18?? And not too expensive and a nightmare to install.
lol. when they used the grinder i thought "well, no safety at all" just to be affirmed seconds later.
I had a dynamo/generator that fitted the same way, very effective when new, but soon wore out, spring became in affective & body generally wore, inside & out. 600w is a lot of power for something so small, looks more like 60w, most 600w drills are much bigger than this device?
Perhaps it is possible that that motor is capable of consuming 600 watts. However, one battery pack might not be capable of supplying the current required.
It seems like that might be a small detail which would be easy to leave out even though you were paying for the upgrade. From watching this video it seems to me that it may be possible that you have a 600 watt motor but you need both battery packs to achieve that.
That could be... It left me disappointed given the upgraded stats and I while don't know exactly what the bottleneck was it would be neat if they could overcome it in the future :)
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It is most likely stall power draw then anything else, manufacturers like to pull shit like that to sell the numbers while they are still technically telling the truth.
Elias Shedd
just a quick question, i know its been a while but i wanted to know if this motor is BLDC?
I think you'd be safe without the helmet inside the shop 😂
I mean, he struggles to get it up to 2MPH, instead of going downhill to start that up, he's like lemme go uphill and struggle. "I know my gears are bad and everything but let's do everything that allows everyone to see my lack of actual brain power so I can upsell this but nobody actually waste their money!
Not with thay Guy lurking around with a grinder,
The whole must be moving is for the tires sake. Any friction drive sufficiently rough to do its job will quickly chew up a tire that's not moving Kevlar or not.
Love the stealth aspect but if I were going to do friction drive I'd consider a rubby.
It is removable and implements a virtual coaster brake to activate regenerative braking. Don't know if it works well but I have a fondness for foot brakes and like the idea of it.
ahh, the sound of your tires wearing off....
11:17 tip: After you cut zip ties, file the end until not sharp, only takes a few seconds
$1200 for this? I will pass
MEAN WHILE BACK AT HARLEY BEE MOTORIZED BICYCLES WE HAVE HAD THIS KIND OF BULLSHIT SOLVED YEARS AGO... OUR BIKES COOK GO MILES AND MILES AND THIS PETER PUFFER IS STILL GUESSING HIS WAY THRU THE ASYLUM.. BUY A GAS BIKE OFF A REAL BIKER.... IT LASTS LONGER THAN THE THIS DOUCHE BAG VIDEO AND THIS PETER PUFFERS BIKES EVER WILL ANYWAY ....
No. They use a very old known commercial trick: they put the price very high, so the buyer thinks it's a good valuable worth stuff.
The only way to be tranquil is to try it by yourself before buying.
Good point Don... Not everything that glitters is not gold... The E-Bikes are the biggest waste of cash I ever seen ever.. Less that 15-20mph top speeds and less than 25 mile range.... Unless y'all like pedaling your ass off you go buy one and puff a few peters along the way with your pals is what I tell people that want em.... The reason I sell GAS BIKES..... THEE HARLEY BEE... THE NUMBER ONE FULLY ASSEMBELD READY TO RUN GAS BIKE SOLD TO DATE IS THE HARLEY BEE... GAS BIKES RULE AND E-BIKES DROOL AND SUCK...
Artificially inflating prices is used by businesses to give the illusion that a great deal on a product or service is available. It is called False and Misleading Advertizing Tactic.
In this particular case the product is of a poor quality and the service is perfect before the purchase but null after.
Be aware
At that 15 - 17 mph, you don't pay insurance, you aren't required to wear a helmet or protective clothing, you also have access to cycle paths, to cycle wherever a bicycle is allowed. Oh and because its electric you don't have to worry about fuel costs, which means less than a penny to recharge the battery for a 20 mile round trip. Unlike a motor bike, the ebike retains an element of exercise, which is no bad thing when compared to most other forms of transport where you just sit there.
I needed a good laugh. Thank you.
Really great sound on your video. What type of recording equipment are you using? Love your work, can't wait to get an e-bike.
Poor e-bike kit! For the price you can get a new, complete e-bike without all the grinding and engineering. It is especially loud!
No
it sou is like a skill saw which would be cool if it had some oomph. you know what I mean.
There are so many things wrong with this kit.
I have a 20 inch wheel folding bike I'd like to convert to e bike. Because I'm a senior citizen in New York City on a limited budget (soc Sec is only income), cost is of concern. I really enjoy your videos and they've inspired me to do the conversion Speed is not of primary concern It's to be used for short trips on mostly flat terrain with slight hills Is there a kit you would recommend? I weigh about 170 pounds.
1200 bux? hahahahahahaha, no stop, hahahahaha, you're hurting me, hahahahaha
I had a crankset freeze on me once, and SE sent me new profile crankset. I was, and still am, FUCKING-IMPRESSED with that customer service.
4:40 my local bike shop just uses a rod or chisel and a hammer to get that off, it's much easier and you can reuse everything, kinda surprised he didn't know that trick
+Joe G.P. Yeah I wouldn't get this guy work on my bike his an idiot. A bike shop that doesn't have a crank puller is like wtf it would have taken him 10 minutes at most.... blow torch then angle grinder ROFL.
+DeSpace Man My thoughts exactly. Never had an issue with getting the crank of the axle with the right tool. And an angle grinder does _not_ qualify as an appropiate tool.
Well thankfully brainless scrubs like this kid exist to bring idiots like that business.
quick tip add a couple of squirts of transmission fluid to your wd40 spray bottle for cleaning and lube of bike parts it doesn't dry out when combined with wd40 and its a great rust prevention i have used this recipe in harsh marine environment for years
This reminds me of being at the dentist or scratching the chalk board with your finger nails. This is awful.
+Les Hsu Ohhh... making me cringe! At least people might notice and get out of your way :D
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@@ElectricBikeReview. That's the only good think that I can think of about this bike. But you would have to be an idiot to be crashing into people for it to be of any value.
This is why I do all my own bike work.
23:52 - The actual ride
can you tell me how the break and acceleration works
Guy in vid is doing his crank removal all wrong. Step 1 ALWAYS use a strong penetrating lube like pb blaster or liquid wrench. Step 2 wack the inside AND outside end of the crank arm with a soft blow hammer every half turn with the crank puller. 90% of the time this will work for the other pesky 10% you just remove the other arm, remove bottom bracket then set the crank on top of a vise to tap the bottom bracket out with a hammer. If your dealing with stripped threads use an automotive pickel fork to wedge the arm off.
I loved this vid. Especially the crank pull shenanigans! Great bike machy!!
Avoid friction drive. It sucks and goes thru rear tires like toilet paper. Especially mnt tires.n
I 100% agree with this comment.
add-e burns 1 tier (Michelin) for +/- 50 km. That is over 0.40 € per Km.
Friction drives are definitively to avoid.
sorry.. but this is ABSOLUTY not true...
have you a add-e (or one of the other similar kits, there are 2 more in Europa)
add-e propably mounted and with right tieres - and you see several 1000km of tire-life
so 50km? very missleading info
and: don´t compare it with the systems from 20 years ago.. they didn´t modifie the tension because of the kind of mouting..
this definitly lasts much longer als you claim
@@reinhardjud8945 well, yeah a tore would last 1000k KM with this motor, that motor would break within a month under normal human weight if 165+ of a male, not the 135 of this kid. You could hear that motor struggling on flat ground under his weight. Go ahead and preach about how great it is but do that to your friends, not random strangers who might fall for the trickery.
IT IS A TIRE GRINDER
Hi, this channel is fun :D
Do you have any tips for motorizing a 1970s 3 speed bicycle ?
It's one of those grandfather bikes if you know what i mean.
The problem is the leather chain guard and the gears are inside the rear hub ...
Definitely not Add-e. Unless if you want to spend $ 30 on tires for each 35 mils ride. This product is a bluff.
It sounds like one of the speed racers from Star Wars.
The nice thing about this is that I'd never have to warn pedestrians that I was approaching from the rear... they'd hear me approaching from a good distance away.
+IAMSatisfied well add-e guys approach from very rear anyone who buys one of their products, better believe me brother, it still hurts after over a year...
So its just a little outrunner motor with some grip tape on it? An almost brilliant design in its simplicity but not beyond the abilities of your average RC enthusiast to put together.
Look, I have the AstonRider mid-engine and I've been using it quite well. I have changed it from my folding 16 wheel to 26 mtb and now into a 24. My husband changes the kit in a few moments by tightening one screw/nut, everything is connected and the screen has a cell phone charger. my experience with the Aston Rider kit, it came out less than 300usd on ebay with lifepo battery and it has been running without problems since I had it more than a year ago
I'm not a safety nazi but using an angle grinder with the guard removed and not wearing face projection? He does not even warn you to step back? A few screens later the disc shattered. I've seen those hit people in the face and disfigure them for life. How he has gone this far without a major injury in beyond me.
arbit3r no you haven’t .
Stop exaggerating.
You don’t know if he stepped back .
Do you really need someone to tell you to step back! What is up with you
@@140rware the way he knelt down and got close while filming the cutting was a good indication he didn't step back
This looks like the perfect electric set up, for a fold up travel bike with 20 in wheels, where weight is important.
2:10
thats some passionate chewing right there!
Not caring how many watts, because I’ll never want one. 🙀 Once again, thanks for a great video and this information. You’ve saved me a ton of time and effort. 👍👍💫
This video saved a lot of money to a lot of people too. Thanks EBR
Definitely too noisy ! and the price .... haha that's a joke !!
I fitted a 250 watt motor to a cheap bike a few years ago. Drove the front crank which had a free wheel attachment. That way I could use all the gears.on the rear. Worked quite well. BUT . You really need largest available PO4 batteries.
$1200 now that is expensive - I'll wait 50 years for the price to go down..
You're going to wait half a century?
...um...ok...
His experience of never doing this before has helped? Now thats professional.....
You need a partner who is much heavier than you. Most men weigh well over 135 pounds. Most men walk around between 175 and 200lbs. Maybe you could get a backpack with 50lbs in it to make your reviews more accurate to average men. You could also stick 50lbs on most bike racks. 185lbs is a MUCH better gauge.
Nah, I saw enough, with that dude straining the motor, I sure as hell know better than to buy that. He gave the perfect test, even a bag of bones drags that motor to nothing, if people don't see that, then it's survival of the fittest. Let the idiots waste their money!
Hi,
I wonder how it compares to the VeloSpeeder.
Also, would you shoot a video comparing the Impulse EVO RS (last gen) to the latest generation Bosch systems (i.e., motors and batteries), including the range, the max speed, the torque, all the bells and whistles?
Thank you. :)
This guy on video talk too much, just wasted my time watch him without give extra information
DIdn't your mother tell you "if you can't say something nice... "
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TheKetota definitely likes to hear him self talk. not too smuckin fart neither :-) , like the way he kept saying we did this and we did that, he didn't do shiot what's he got a freaking frog in his pocket?
TheKetota sounds gay
Fran Broughton ...Then don't say anything at all
Net D I Y trick I use when dealing with Zip tie's . After cutting the ends off I use a Bic lighter and melt the end of the Zip tie . I have used a soldering Iron to melt the ends off .
Why do bicycling helmets have to look so goofy?
Ignoring the ridiculous price and the annoying noise, as soon as you hit some mud it will be brushless motor carnage.What is that like, IP00?
burn the stray end of the cable/zip tie with a cigarette lighter to round it off smoothly
I do the same,a little fire.
Or you can grab the tail end with pliers right at the slot and twist it off , it will break off flush
I have never cut myself on zip ties, I guess I know how to cut off the tail so it is flush and is not sharp.
A zip tie tool tightens it and cuts it off flush, this guys a idiot.
Hello, good video I want to ride on a wheel 16" Do you think it hits the ground? 😊
Why you didn't change on higher gear when you try the motor on pedaling? I think you will get more speed with the higher gear.
To much blah blah blah
The blah blah is what you call 'Information'.
If you're interested in the Ride portion, you can fast forward to it.
The motor goes from 0 to 100 basically and if the tire doesn't grip it just fucks it. Tire change every 50km?
Why the heck didn't he just use compressed liquid nitrogen to remove the cranks. Always go cold first before going hot. Going cold causes the steel Bottom bracket axle to to contract at a much faster rate than the alluminium crank arms - rather than heat which causes both materials to expand at the exact same time.
I looked at this unit but it was cost and lack of support from Add-E that was a deal breaker, In the UK whole E-bikes are coming in at £700/800 Vs this 600w version that retails at £855. I'm not convinced, hub conversion kits seem to offer better value for money and greater power/range/noise. I think once refined though this is definitely an option to consider.
You do know that you can use lower gears when you start pedaling from a stand still ? That's what gears are for on a bike !
And for some reason, listening to the noise this crappy thing makes, it reminded me of another crappy system: the "generator" of my youth (I'm 51) that rubbed against the side of the tire to make electricity to supposedly light up a headlight, but would almost stop you by friction alone ! lol !
Correct, using a lower gear to start would probably activate the motor quicker as the cranks pass the cadence sensor more quickly. I wasn't familiar with the Generator, interesting...
Yes. And after I wrote my previous comment, I was surprised to find out that it still exists and is still sold in stores even today ! This is what it looks like:
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yeah man , its a dynamo :) Round these parts there are still few of them on the street . Im also totally not for this crap . Wanna bike , then pedal , dont want to pedal get a real electric thing . This is just a gizmo , and what is funny, it probably costs like a full blown electric scooter , i dont know didnt look but it probably is that way
...also if you add another sensor to the rear wheel you could fool the system into triggering the motor sooner without completely giving up on that safety feature.
Now if only that kit was driving the chain directly via a cog attachment. It would be more efficient, especially in the wet or with muddy tires. Also the noise created as a result of contact with the knobbly tires would be much reduced.
+Pavle Pavlovic I 100% agree with this coherent. and well observed comment.
It is true that this thing is a real CRAP. Considering changing the tier every 30-35 effective miles, and the battery (300 $) every 6 month and what you have to pay meanwhile as extra to the vendor for repairing because it is a poor quality material and not secured, buying a real electric bike will save you a lot in wallet, nerves and Asprin cost.
Probably Add-e will soon report this comment as spam, like other similar ones we don't see anymore.
I was using this kit for few months, current waiting for motor repairing but while using it I was stunt of power in that small kit I was switching from hidden power 250w which was not so super but was ok as first touch with e-bikes I had, add-e is much much better (600w) love it so far, of course I had few issues, black bottom cup of battery get unglued, sometimes throttle after engage didn't work but very rarely (I was using throttle only, I disconnected PAS with the help of add-e support) other issue I have while riding in the rain, motor starts by self so I stop use it on wet weather I figure out that may throttle is not water proof and water get in and star engage motor but I'm not sure about that 100%, and noise it could be little quiet but in other way is good that pedestrians and other cyclists can hear you so this aspect don't bother me much, and at last tier changing, while riding 5 days a week 32km at day I have to change tiers after month or so, It could be cheaper ;) Other things like light weight, compact size, look, power, support from add-e is great! love it!
PS:
ElectricBikeReview.com you should use right tier to get better effective grip, more flat tread as add-e highly recommended.
I think this video could have left out the entire first part about trying to get the bottom bracket off... very boring... The motor itself is a rip off, and I really, really hope this company doesn't get any customers, because if they do buy this, they are being ripped off.
+John Thomas . This is not just a simple rip-off. It actually is a very thought and organized swindle which is not only limited to its extortionately price but also to its extreme poor quality, dubious origins and absence of warranty. What you get does not have anyone of the promised things. A simple example is in this same review: It is unable to do 45 km/h...
Don't just remember this product, but also the name and faces of those behind it (they call it their team at add-e.at).
Tell a friend...
Yea I agree, way too long and when he actually got to the "review" it was very dissapointing.
I need a Hillclimber but must be legal in Switzerlanf.Which Kit i have to buy? I belief this smal things will never doo that Job i think
Slick Tyres to eliminate the noise but you'll still get the noise from the motor. Looks pretty weak as well I'd rather wait for Bosch to make a smaller version of their motor.
Won't be buying this unless it goes down to maybe £100.
You are absolutely right, If I may advise: don't buy it for even less than £ 100 because the vendor is so false that appears honest.
Yeah, if someone gave it to you free, I would say break it open, rewire it and turn it into a pocket sized hand crank for a flashlight or maybe a mobile charger or something. You would get more use for it and it's super easy to turn these into generators! That kid weighs 140Lbs soaking wet, imagine if a normal sized human tried to use that motor; let's just say you will be back to a normal bike within a month.
if im going 30mph just by my own feet, wouldn't the add-e 600W slow you down if it only runs at 15mph?? :(
Very good remark. So do I. Therefor this thing is mostly desalinated to those who bike little or very noisily in town.
Thanks for the review.
My take: Too noisy. Too much work(exclude the pedal work)
and way 'too overpriced'. For that price, I can buy a brand new Ebike.
@ Just Sayin + it is terribly fragile, the motor is basically designed for RC flying toys.
That shit is $250...what desent ebike is $250????
I pay $10.000 for a Specialized Turbo Creo SL 🤣🤣🤣
4:58 "safety glasses" I chuckled lol. If it was quieter and didn't require you to be going 2mph to kick in I'd consider buying one. Good review as always.
What about an electric powered trailer that pushes your bike?
Just ride the dang bike!
is this motor universal, like it can work on all bikes or just mountain bikes?
Interesting set up but too noisy! Cheers, Patrick
This is amazing, just saw that on a presentation boot and got a flyer. Then I remembered I am a commuter. I ride when it Rains, I ride in mud, I ride in snow, I ride in Ice. I can bet my ass this grip tape wheel will lose grip on my tire when covered in mud from the rain. Let me check the Prize. Oh yea it probably costs as much as a cheap E-Bike and when you mount it to an old cheap bike. You essentially have a kit that you need to invest time and pain to make working or just buy a brand new cheap e-bike .... I am so done with Kits. This looks like it will sell only if you have an old Roadbike and there is nothing to do for you right now.
Hmmm.... 1000 dollars
you can just buy a electric bike for cheaper
You get what you pay for. If you bought an E bike for less than 1000$ it's most likely a piece of crap. Sure there might be one or two good deals out there but the majority of the good ones are at least 1500-2000$.
@@MrRizo23 i agree with you...but 1200$ for a big RC car motor+battery is a joke
What brand of hair dye do you use Sam, it looks real good?
Holy shit that thing's loud!
+Danny Bass .In numbers the noise is 93 dB, with peaks of 105 dB. And the vendor calls it stealthy and almost invisible. Actually one looks really ridiculous in the street with such a noise next to other normal discreet (and half the price) ebikes.
Would the motor be quieter with street tires as opposed to dirt bike tires? You should do a proper review to show how it performs on all surfaces and inclines.
hey guy, whats the deal with wearing your helmet when your not riding a bike lol
His voice attracts carnivores, if you know what i mean...
I've noticed that he also wears his shoes when he's not walking.
If the motor friction drives the tyre directly it’s always going to sound like that unless you take the nobbly tyre off and put a slick one on instead.
lol the motor doesn't sound too healthy
that's just what it sounds when a small brushless motor revvs up. larger, slower running motors have a much more pleassant sound.
LASTS AS LONG AS TOILET PAPER... ONE WIPE AND DONE... BUY A GAS BIKE FOLKS..
The motor is driving a knobby tire. It would be quiet if a smooth tire was used.
Tim Yeakel have you ever ridden a decent electric bike before? a 2kW outrunner blows a 100cc gas engine out of the water.
these technogies aren't rivaling, though. it's like comparing apples and oranges.
ps: ALL CAPS IS FOR UPSET TWELVE YEAR OLDS, WRITE LIKE A MAN!
Cuda I don't know what the hell you are talking about but I have E-Bikes here I sell Zip bikes and Currie Technologies other brand name E-Bikes. I am an established 12 year old shop here. I have 200 watt bikes here 250 watt up to 1000 watt Mongoose 22k24 volters. none of em can even catch one of my Gas Bikes. Not one. If you wanna run it off here there is a private lands I own what used to be a speedway we are currently resurrecting the old track. You are welcome to come run for fun or cash. I guarantee you will loose against a Harley Bee brand 2 cycle Gas Bike. Everyone so far that has come here has lost to me but for one builder from North Carolina Jim Rawlings brought one of the chopper bikes he makes here. A 4cycle with a harbor freight predator engine he modified. The fucking thing hit 56mph on the track radar gun. I got him off the line with his CV clutch he has. His bike then passed me at 150 yards like I was sitting still. My top speeds on my Gas Bikes are between 35 and 45mph. The most speed I get out of any E-Bikes is 25mph top speeds. After a mile an E-Bike can't even keep up with me.
For more speed you just mount a bigger traction wheel right?
Electric bikes are stealthy quiet and efficient.. This thing is an embarrassment.. very noisy and no power and no range to speak of....
+Joe Pah . You are very kind and well educated to use the word "embarrassment" for this thing. This gadget is a typical wrong thing to purchase from wrong people.
+unenslaved2012 . 100% agree with you, + it is not approved in no country. It has no any certificate of conformity. No registration, Nothing.
Joe Pah
I like the whirling sound actually.
for that price I'll just buy a whole electric bike already made...
I love the add-e! However, I have a little glitch that I don't know how to fix. My battery is not shutting off. The unit kicks on when I peddle and the battery is in the off mode
well, well would this be a joke ?
One thing for sure I would never bring my bike to this mechanic.
Can it work as an engine brake when going downhill? That is, instead of wearing out the brakes and overheating the rims, insert a slight braking action by the engine
No, by the mechhanical design this is not possible (when circumference velocity of the roll is less than the one of the rear wheel it gets disengaged (it uses the moment of torsion of the motor to kick up aganist the tire in order to engage).