I want to share my experience. They are definitely on point. In early 2021, I was able to recover after 6 months by retraining my mind. I had every symptom you could think of. The symptoms that persisted the longest were fatigue and GI issues. I took every supplement you could think of but nothing worked. I also went to every doctor you could think of and everything came back normal. I didn’t do an anti histamine diet, but at that time switched to keto and temporarily did carnivore. At some point, I got tired of the diet and wanted to look forward to something. I had lost a ton of weight and ate very “healthy” so I didn’t mind. I also got the courage to not lay in bed all the time. I started using my kettlebells at home and gradually got better over time. I think what caused my long Covid were work, the news, and ending a 5 year serious relationship. Fast forward to today, and I am once again experiencing long Covid symptoms after reinfection. I’m a month in and I tried taking supplements again and even did a 90 hour water fast. Rewatching this video made me remember what got me out of my long Covid. It wasn’t the vitamins or any medicine, it was a change in mindset. It does take time to rewire the mind, but I’m optimistic and I truly believe I will overcome this illness once more. I learned not to be afraid, not doubt and have faith. Stop listening to the negative comments stop researching every symptom. The mind is very powerful, but we do have a choice in getting better. It’s not an easy road, but it’s definitely humbling. I’ll try and give an update in the near future. I’ll repost this in other videos in case someone is looking for hope.
This is almost my exact story. First time 6-7 months then got better. Riding my bike up to 65 miles at a pretty good pace. Now 6 weeks into my relapse right now and back on the roller coaster.
@@sherwoody14 Hi, so I recovered within that same week I wrote the comment. It was difficult at first, but then it got a lot easier. The body felt heavy and tired, but I pushed on through. Keep at it. You can do it!
Great interview. Thx for posting this, harry. You’re filling in the gaps by providing anecdotal evidence of recoveries, where healthcare providers and larger orgs are utterly failing LC patients. 🙏
@@harryboby7563 hi Harry, one year on now. Have you remained fully recovered and completely back to your old self? I’m 8 months in now and know I have a whole to go. Which I can do if I have the belief in full recovery.
This has really opened my mind to the idea of trying to reduce my stress response to when I feel onset of symptoms. At the moment every time I have a symptom like crippling fatigue, GI issues, breathing difficulty I always say things like “here we go again or this sucks” etc etc and I think maybe it’s feeding my brain the worst response which is exasperating the symptoms. I know the symptoms are real and exist but I now know I need to try and cope with the stress response in a positive way. Thanks for a brilliant video .
Thanks for the kind words! I definitely think its helped me to try and refram things when I'm having a crash for sure. Wishing you all the best with your recovery!
This is amazing so similar to how I feel brought me to tears as I found out I’m not broken just stuck ! There is a way out appreciate you both sharing 💜
@@gillsobczyk2809 I can walk up to 1 hour a day. I’ve not started back with sports or lifting weights yet but hope to do this soon. I’m waiting on a 24 hour heart trace it’s just formality as all my other tests having been normal but about it’s the fear so once I’ve had that I’ll feel even better. I’m not working as was at college but haven’t returned yet. Just working on keeping the house (which was impossible before) and looking after my 2 kids both have difficulties so it’s challenging. I also have ADHD so working on calming, practices (I’m not the best slowing at but getting there) very gentle yoga , breathing exercises as I have disordered breathing although it’s a lot better, mindfulness, meditation, yoga nidra.
Thanks a lot lot for this. I can relate so so much. 7 months into long covid and still going on. Super rough journey. (I'm from India. Thanks again to both of you)
@@rocketman2010 The link I have shared above is of Raelan's recent video, you can find my current update (in details) in the comments section of that video.
Thank you so much for this video! 🙏🏽❤️ This is going to be my starting point of being aware of my symptoms but pushing away the anxiety of potential crashes. I will stress less about them from day to day. The crashes will happen, but they will get fewer and I will get stronger and eventually I will get back to where I was before 💪🏽
@@SamB79 i am doing faaar better, step by step I got back to my normal life, with performance in the university and time with friends. Only thing thats not back to normal is sports. I have a kind of "post exertional malaise": meaning that i have fatigue syndroms after i do a little bit to much sport. All in all it gets better and better every week, when i give my body regularaly some mild exercise and enough time to rest.
Just wanted to say thank you for this interview Harry. I watched it last fall when I was first I'll with long covid and it started an amazing recovery journey using mind body approaches. I'm almost there! Way faster than I thought would be possible. So thank you sooooo much!
This is one of the reasons I love humans. What you are talking about and the way you are talking about it is so recognisable. Thank you for sharing this. Its so needed to be reminded of the mysterious mind-body connection and its so nice to hear how other people handle these things in their own unique lives. Thank U!
Really appreciate you both taking the time to film and share this. Seeing recovery stories on video makes it feel so much more relatable and believable. Really positive stuff and your experiences are really helping me get on the front foot with my own recovery.
I relate way too much to you, Harry. Specially with the vision problems like I be walking down the street and then all this vision fade starts coming in leading to a drunk feeling or like my brain is altered. Thank you so much for this video! I will look into neuroplasticity
Thank you for this! I am vaccine injured from one of the mRNA vaccines and I have the same type of long covid symptoms. I am almost back to normal, but it’s been 8 months so far. I’ve done everything- niatonin protocol, NAD+ and Glutithione deficiency, neuroplasticity (including Gupta), cleaning up my microbiome with a Candida cleanse, autophagy, and more. For me, I think it was a combination of my gut, neuroplasticity, vitamin deficiency, and honestly just time healing me. I am hoping and praying that if I get covid in the future, or any illness really, that it won’t spiral me back into long covid. Thanks! Super inspiring to see people recovering. There was a point where we didn’t see any stories of recoveries. So much hope!
Hi Rachel - glad you are recovering - I also experienced a vaccine injury back in Feb from my 1st pfizer jab - won't be having a 2nd - left me with loads of LC symptoms including POTS which has settled a bit but still persists - I haven't tried autophagy but everything else - can I ask you more about that? Can you exercise yet and did you have any heart issues?
@@bryceclark8985 Sorry to hear you have this too -have had microbiome analysis and it's certainly helping - have you had POTs or other cardiac symptoms?
An interesting theory is that of mast cells going beserk in the body. I’ve been a mess for three weeks now and I found a few nuggets that seems to be working, I will list them below. As they are quite easy to try and evaluate I think it could be helpful for some people struggling. Allergy medications such as cetirizin 5-10 mg/day and ketotifen 0.25-1 mg at night, the later seems to work more on the brain and is very good for sleep. Blocking histamine 1 receptors also reduces anxiety. Aspirin 500mg, 3 times/day helps with inflamatory processes and lowers stress hormones. Vitamin C 1-3 g/day and quercetin 500 mg/day helps reduce histamin release. Zinc 20 -40 mg/day helps the immune system. Magnesium 400 mg/day. Vit D3 2000 IU/day. I hope this could help a few people🙏
Thank you Harry. This is very positive and I think you are right regarding the mechanisms in the brain and how to deal with them, regardless of other theories such as micro clotting and auto immune bodies etc, that may also play their part. Your videos are very helpful and inspiring!
Thank you so much for this video, so important to share these stories and raise awareness. I am on the path to recovery and this video is helping me move forward with building back to practicing yoga, hiking, surfing, everything I used to do I will do again!
@@naturespleasantries I have not yet been able to rebuild any sort of physical practice other than daily walks but I am no longer bed bound which is a blessing.
Hi Harry just listened to this video you mentioned bone aches I'm so worried its getting worse any advise please and thanks for doing this it's helping me so much hearing recovery stories 👍
Last fall I got a stomach flu. I was dizzy and lost my taste and smell. I never got tested for covid. I told my Dr. my symptoms, they said covid was a respiratory infection. I was better in about three days and felt fine. Shortly after that, I started to get spells of severe anxiety and depression, brain fog, head pressure, chest pains, a racing heart rate and burning weak muscles, I felt really far out. I have has these symptoms for almost a year.
Extremely relatable. I was fine after the initial infection got back to work etc then after like 10 days or so had a horrible crash like flu which lasted 2-3 days then I was fine again for another 10 days then bang same thing again. Then then time between each crash gradually got shorter and the crashes became more severe until after about 2 months of trying to fight it I eventually had to stop doing everything.
You’d think though, since everyone really has had a different experience through this pandemic and their own COVID infection, yet the experience of PEM is so similar for so many of us…it is not just our brain being trained, I don’t think anyway. I’m willing to be convinced, but more study is needed for sure.
However, I got COVID in March 2020 so before any of these people knew any of these symptoms that people who got sick much later are privy to. We needed to figure it out for ourselves. It was also a very stressful time, no vaccines, no end in sight. The optimism now is completely different and likely contributed to your quicker recovery. I often suspected that the lockdown had a detrimental effect on my health. All that to say, it may be easier to say now.
@@angelaquesnel7546 I agree. Getting Long Covid when I did was helpful because there were more resources out there. I also have a background in neuroplasticity which helped. Research takes years and is very difficult from a randomised trial etc with this stuff. Most people who recover do more than one thing that helped. Everyone I know who has recovered has taken a mind/body approach. Understanding and believing in that is key. We are a system not a series of symptoms. There is much more research with pain management and when I followed this I realised that this is very similar to long covid.
I am 2 1/2 years in. Good interview but I’m very confused. At one point she says positive thinking doesn’t work, but then it seems like towards the end she’s attributing her wellness to changing her thinking. Could you help me out with this? Thanks.
Hey Harry, thank you for your videos. I was in a bad state from covid. The anxiety and depression was off the wall. Never had depression in my life. The depersonalization is terrible. I feel like I'm watching my life from the outside. I was told this is Ptsd and put on antidepressants. It has been 11 months now feeling slightly better. I'm almost scared to go back to that place. It's horrible. I would be on edge 24 hours. The best time for me was when I was sleeping hated waking up in the morning because I knew what was ahead of me. I would just lay in the bed with my thoughts racing and thinking of the most craziest things. I was very stressed before I got covid. I think covid was the straw that broke the camels back. I thought I was going to be in this state for the rest of my life. I also had blurry vision and couldn't watch TV as I couldn't comprehend what I watching.
@@harryboby7563 I can relate to the submergence of the activity I feel fine when I'm doing things but then like I get home I start feeling it again I've been struggling with the fatigue for a little bit for 4 months now going on five but it's getting better what I found it really works really well for me is CBDs and also meditation and reducing my stress so I don't surround myself with toxic people
Thanks for the work you doing harry.i can see how you be a proper judoka.im a few months in.proper heavy fatigue mate.im 50 now and still obviously v active and training.covid fuck d that (for now) are you still doing well and training.hope so and ta again for the positivity.badly needed 👍👍
Thanks for the video. I'm probably a month or so in with long covid symptoms. I was virtually asymptomatic with covid, however by the 'end of infection' started getting brain fog like symptoms where I felt slightly dizzy/drunk and periods of anxiety and that impending doom feeling you mentioned. It honestly scared the crap out of me, thought I was losing my mind. I continued exercising, obviously not knowing what was going on, however that made things much worse. Nights after I was getting migraines, heart would skip beats, body jolts, and these brain zap like things where it feels like a brain version of missing a beat, found them personally scary because it's almost like losing consciousness for a split second. I find when I try to sleep on my side on it feels like everything is moving and that can result in more inflammation in the head and ultimately worsened symptoms, sleeping on my back definitely seems to help. Like Harry said though, the symptoms aren't always noticeable, it feels like it comes in waves and there are times where I can do things I enjoy and feel completely normal, but usually once I stop they reappear. I'm finally going back to work this week, I'm trying to have the mindset that nothing is wrong with me, as well as doing all the right things, supplementing, exposure to natural light and pacing myself. Determined to not let this change me, I want to be back in the gym this year and be my normal self again. Good luck my fellow long-haulers, you're not alone!
So sorry to hear Latham, but love to hear the attitude! I'm trying to spend as much time in a para-sympathetic state (breathwork, meditation, visualisations etc.) whilst working on the physical stuff I can do (mobility, pre-hab, technique etc.) I will be a better athlete because of this!
I might sound a tiny bit dismissive, but people have been told so many times that exercise is good or ideal for you after COVID, it's totally the opposite. I've also noticed that people that complain about "long COVID" have only had a mild form of COVID. I'm an ex ICU Covid19 patient, and I'm still suffering after being discharged over 20 months ago. My GPs and the NHS in general have not given any support, but minor cases seem to get all of the attention ... Why ?
John. I think you are right. Long haul is a collection of illnesses. Both me and Harry had minor initial illness, exercise was definitely bad to begin with because it puts stress on a system that’s already stressed. So causes long haul symptoms After a period of de stress, I believe the secret is to then gradually re introduce activity. The tricky thing is your nervous system kicks back as it’s still trying to protect you when it doesn’t need to. (Like a conditioned response) Brain re training helps navigate and overcome this. We are assuming no actual damage from Initial infection.
Exactly right Rachel! I’ve had LC for 7 months and was slowly recovering and then started therapy in august and it was too much too soon and I had a big relapse. So I sat around for 6 weeks and did nothing and just got weaker. I’ve started strength training 3 days a week with a trainer and I’m slowly getting stronger. It’ll probably take a few months to get 100% strength back in my legs. But as far as what you said I couldn’t agree more. There is definitely a right and wrong way to exercise with LC
I've watched a couple of your videos about neuroplasticity, meditation, and retraining your thoughts to recover from long-COVID. Where does one learn to do this?
I had the most debilitating fatigue for months. Im recovered now so I have lots of energy. Im back to normal. Once you learn to work with understanding the stress response, the fatigue starts to shift. Neuroplasticity made a huge difference to me.
I think it's really irresponsible for her to say she doesn't believe in pacing/spoon theory. Even if it is to do with mind/body disregulation you still need to listen to your body before you've done the work and it's safe to start doing more
Been in contact with Rachel on Facebook. Shes pretty inspiring as some of those forums will have you so far down the rabbit whole you lose faith. Im only 2 and a half months in long covid, not gonna lie it's been rough. Vision issues, killer headaches, sensitivity to light and this weird feeling when I'm moving around that I'm almost looking through someone elses eyes or that I kinda have drunk vision. So hard to explain. Random but I tried to add you on Facebook as I wanted to send you a message to get a feel for things. Just miss my old life. Still kinda young, was in good shape/stayed active and didnt have any underlining issues outside axiety and some depression I guess but who doesnt in this day and age. Now i swear it's all amplified...
Sorry to hear you're suffering Kevin :( -Here you can see my article where I talk about how I got better, wishing you all the best :) harry-boby97.medium.com/how-i-recovered-from-long-covid-207bc3fe038e
How do you know exactly when to push and when to rest? I had awful symptoms straight after Covid - and then new extreme fatigue 3 months in after a brief recovery. When should I start trying to push through
it's not about pushing through. Its about being kind to self and gently persuading self that its the brain in a loop. Exposure to more is the answer BUT you have to do it with compassion to your self rather than in a stressed out way. The secret is to gently do more with a calm mind
I can totally relate to this, my body is stuck in flight or fight mode! I obsess about symptoms. Should I have a walk, etc. I still cannot walk far, maybe 300m, But Is that post viral fatigue, or is it anxiety? Would love to reach out to you guys and share your experiences.
@@MK-gy1ug pretty much fully recovered. I can walk 2 miles daily, and get no real problems. I did develop a neck problem and this persists, trapped nerve my GP thinks. Occasionally I get achy legs, but otherwise fully functional
Thank you for sharing. I.am.not.alone!!I’m 4 months post covid. Getting better- doing life but struggling with PEM. I can do a little more exercise each week (very minimal compared to what I used to do). I’m in that place where Im wondering if it’s “me/cfs” and a little scared. What is the lightning process/GUPTA?
I've had is since feb 2020 . It took me about 1 year and a half to get over that. Had extreme fatigue and other issues. I was slowly recovering finally able to ride my motorcycle and workout go on 25 minute walks . Then caught omicron and now the breathing issues are back and feel worse . I can barely do simple stuff around the house . Just keep your head up . Im 29 years old this shit is no joke . Hope you recover soon 🙏
I have been breathlessness for 6 months and I have preserved saturation like 97% all the time then it is going down to 93% when I am walking and my heart rate is going up. If u don’t have deep breath just u are breathlessness maybe there is a lot of part of lung damaged. I think that I have this problem. If the better breathing is coming…I really don’t want to believe….
I told myself it was just my nervous system and wasnt permanent and dealt with it as anxiety. I found nicole sachs and nicola bird and the DARE book all great for ideas for dealing with anxiety.
Thanks for this video! How do we deal with seeing articles and new theories and people saying they are suffering ? Do we just ignore them and say they don’t understand the mind body connection ?
Hi Harry, just wondering how long your chest pains lasted? And if you have any tips to manage them? I've been told by Doctors theres no serious issue but still getting pains.
Can you do a follow up with her? Thanks for doing this! 🙌🙏
I just talked with her on FB, she is doing great!
I want to share my experience. They are definitely on point.
In early 2021, I was able to recover after 6 months by retraining my mind. I had every symptom you could think of. The symptoms that persisted the longest were fatigue and GI issues. I took every supplement you could think of but nothing worked. I also went to every doctor you could think of and everything came back normal. I didn’t do an anti histamine diet, but at that time switched to keto and temporarily did carnivore. At some point, I got tired of the diet and wanted to look forward to something. I had lost a ton of weight and ate very “healthy” so I didn’t mind. I also got the courage to not lay in bed all the time. I started using my kettlebells at home and gradually got better over time. I think what caused my long Covid were work, the news, and ending a 5 year serious relationship.
Fast forward to today, and I am once again experiencing long Covid symptoms after reinfection. I’m a month in and I tried taking supplements again and even did a 90 hour water fast. Rewatching this video made me remember what got me out of my long Covid. It wasn’t the vitamins or any medicine, it was a change in mindset. It does take time to rewire the mind, but I’m optimistic and I truly believe I will overcome this illness once more.
I learned not to be afraid, not doubt and have faith. Stop listening to the negative comments stop researching every symptom. The mind is very powerful, but we do have a choice in getting better. It’s not an easy road, but it’s definitely humbling.
I’ll try and give an update in the near future. I’ll repost this in other videos in case someone is looking for hope.
This is almost my exact story. First time 6-7 months then got better. Riding my bike up to 65 miles at a pretty good pace. Now 6 weeks into my relapse right now and back on the roller coaster.
@@sherwoody14 Hi, so I recovered within that same week I wrote the comment. It was difficult at first, but then it got a lot easier. The body felt heavy and tired, but I pushed on through. Keep at it. You can do it!
You're so awesome, thank you for these comments
@@abdielmata thank you for the inspiration
Thank you for advice ❤
That habit of “ pushing through” definitely resonates with me. Thank you for sharing this❣️
Great interview. Thx for posting this, harry. You’re filling in the gaps by providing anecdotal evidence of recoveries, where healthcare providers and larger orgs are utterly failing LC patients. 🙏
Thanks for the kind words Tim :) Glad you found it helpful!
@@harryboby7563 hi Harry, one year on now. Have you remained fully recovered and completely back to your old self? I’m 8 months in now and know I have a whole to go. Which I can do if I have the belief in full recovery.
This has really opened my mind to the idea of trying to reduce my stress response to when I feel onset of symptoms. At the moment every time I have a symptom like crippling fatigue, GI issues, breathing difficulty I always say things like “here we go again or this sucks” etc etc and I think maybe it’s feeding my brain the worst response which is exasperating the symptoms. I know the symptoms are real and exist but I now know I need to try and cope with the stress response in a positive way. Thanks for a brilliant video .
Thanks for the kind words! I definitely think its helped me to try and refram things when I'm having a crash for sure. Wishing you all the best with your recovery!
This is amazing so similar to how I feel brought me to tears as I found out I’m not broken just stuck ! There is a way out appreciate you both sharing 💜
Thank you Sheryl - glad it was useful!
hi Sheryl, have you recovered now for months later?
@@gillsobczyk2809 Hi not completely but on the right track. Just have to stop getting stuck in my head & letting fear take over.
@@sherylmarshall1444 yes. I get that totally. Can you work? Do sport now ?
@@gillsobczyk2809 I can walk up to 1 hour a day. I’ve not started back with sports or lifting weights yet but hope to do this soon. I’m waiting on a 24 hour heart trace it’s just formality as all my other tests having been normal but about it’s the fear so once I’ve had that I’ll feel even better. I’m not working as was at college but haven’t returned yet. Just working on keeping the house (which was impossible before) and looking after my 2 kids both have difficulties so it’s challenging. I also have ADHD so working on calming, practices (I’m not the best slowing at but getting there) very gentle yoga , breathing exercises as I have disordered breathing although it’s a lot better, mindfulness, meditation, yoga nidra.
Thanks a lot lot for this. I can relate so so much. 7 months into long covid and still going on. Super rough journey. (I'm from India. Thanks again to both of you)
How r u now plzz reply
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@@rocketman2010 The link I have shared above is of Raelan's recent video, you can find my current update (in details) in the comments section of that video.
Thank you so much for this video! 🙏🏽❤️ This is going to be my starting point of being aware of my symptoms but pushing away the anxiety of potential crashes. I will stress less about them from day to day. The crashes will happen, but they will get fewer and I will get stronger and eventually I will get back to where I was before 💪🏽
Update: it's going great so far!
Hi..can I ask what you symptoms are?
@@stanleysteamer3212 my symptoms were fatigue, breathlessness, limb pain and headache
@@michaelhemmelmayr9658 how is it going?
@@SamB79 i am doing faaar better, step by step I got back to my normal life, with performance in the university and time with friends. Only thing thats not back to normal is sports. I have a kind of "post exertional malaise": meaning that i have fatigue syndroms after i do a little bit to much sport.
All in all it gets better and better every week, when i give my body regularaly some mild exercise and enough time to rest.
Just wanted to say thank you for this interview Harry. I watched it last fall when I was first I'll with long covid and it started an amazing recovery journey using mind body approaches. I'm almost there! Way faster than I thought would be possible. So thank you sooooo much!
Really means a lot, so glad to hear you're doing so well!
This is one of the reasons I love humans. What you are talking about and the way you are talking about it is so recognisable. Thank you for sharing this. Its so needed to be reminded of the mysterious mind-body connection and its so nice to hear how other people handle these things in their own unique lives. Thank U!
Thank you so to both of you. I really need to be hearing success stories and saying to myself that I will get better
Really appreciate you both taking the time to film and share this. Seeing recovery stories on video makes it feel so much more relatable and believable. Really positive stuff and your experiences are really helping me get on the front foot with my own recovery.
My pleasure Andrew, wishing you all the best!
I relate way too much to you, Harry. Specially with the vision problems like I be walking down the street and then all this vision fade starts coming in leading to a drunk feeling or like my brain is altered. Thank you so much for this video! I will look into neuroplasticity
Wow, this really resonates with me. This idea changes everything and actually makes so much sense. I feel so liberated. Much thanks!
Thank you for this! I am vaccine injured from one of the mRNA vaccines and I have the same type of long covid symptoms. I am almost back to normal, but it’s been 8 months so far. I’ve done everything- niatonin protocol, NAD+ and Glutithione deficiency, neuroplasticity (including Gupta), cleaning up my microbiome with a Candida cleanse, autophagy, and more. For me, I think it was a combination of my gut, neuroplasticity, vitamin deficiency, and honestly just time healing me.
I am hoping and praying that if I get covid in the future, or any illness really, that it won’t spiral me back into long covid.
Thanks! Super inspiring to see people recovering. There was a point where we didn’t see any stories of recoveries. So much hope!
I got vaccinated and got long covid. So I'm going to try autophagy. How did you activate autophagy?
Hi Rachel - glad you are recovering - I also experienced a vaccine injury back in Feb from my 1st pfizer jab - won't be having a 2nd - left me with loads of LC symptoms including POTS which has settled a bit but still persists - I haven't tried autophagy but everything else - can I ask you more about that? Can you exercise yet and did you have any heart issues?
@OK Several covid tests - all negative plus antibody tests say I have never had the virus.
@@bryceclark8985 Sorry to hear you have this too -have had microbiome analysis and it's certainly helping - have you had POTs or other cardiac symptoms?
An interesting theory is that of mast cells going beserk in the body.
I’ve been a mess for three weeks now and I found a few nuggets that seems to be working, I will list them below.
As they are quite easy to try and evaluate I think it could be helpful for some people struggling.
Allergy medications such as cetirizin 5-10 mg/day and ketotifen 0.25-1 mg at night, the later seems to work more on the brain and is very good for sleep.
Blocking histamine 1 receptors also reduces anxiety.
Aspirin 500mg, 3 times/day helps with inflamatory processes and lowers stress hormones.
Vitamin C 1-3 g/day and quercetin 500 mg/day helps reduce histamin release.
Zinc 20 -40 mg/day helps the immune system.
Magnesium 400 mg/day.
Vit D3 2000 IU/day.
I hope this could help a few people🙏
Thank you Harry. This is very positive and I think you are right regarding the mechanisms in the brain and how to deal with them, regardless of other theories such as micro clotting and auto immune bodies etc, that may also play their part. Your videos are very helpful and inspiring!
Thank you for the kind words!
I was doing so well until I saw a stupid article about microclots might be the reason,
So basically it’s just a theory and not proven,
Thank you so much for this video, so important to share these stories and raise awareness. I am on the path to recovery and this video is helping me move forward with building back to practicing yoga, hiking, surfing, everything I used to do I will do again!
How are you now?
@@naturespleasantries I have not yet been able to rebuild any sort of physical practice other than daily walks but I am no longer bed bound which is a blessing.
@@JessicaBMuise glad to hear that
Really enjoyed this conversation - thanks for sharing your experiences & insights
My pleasure Natalie! All the best :)
Hi Harry just listened to this video you mentioned bone aches I'm so worried its getting worse any advise please and thanks for doing this it's helping me so much hearing recovery stories 👍
God bless you for this video!
Nice work Hary. Thank you for opening my mind to another way of looking at this
Last fall I got a stomach flu. I was dizzy and lost my taste and smell. I never got tested for covid. I told my Dr. my symptoms, they said covid was a respiratory infection. I was better in about three days and felt fine. Shortly after that, I started to get spells of severe anxiety and depression, brain fog, head pressure, chest pains, a racing heart rate and burning weak muscles, I felt really far out. I have has these symptoms for almost a year.
Extremely relatable. I was fine after the initial infection got back to work etc then after like 10 days or so had a horrible crash like flu which lasted 2-3 days then I was fine again for another 10 days then bang same thing again. Then then time between each crash gradually got shorter and the crashes became more severe until after about 2 months of trying to fight it I eventually had to stop doing everything.
You’d think though, since everyone really has had a different experience through this pandemic and their own COVID infection, yet the experience of PEM is so similar for so many of us…it is not just our brain being trained, I don’t think anyway. I’m willing to be convinced, but more study is needed for sure.
However, I got COVID in March 2020 so before any of these people knew any of these symptoms that people who got sick much later are privy to. We needed to figure it out for ourselves. It was also a very stressful time, no vaccines, no end in sight. The optimism now is completely different and likely contributed to your quicker recovery. I often suspected that the lockdown had a detrimental effect on my health. All that to say, it may be easier to say now.
@@angelaquesnel7546 I agree. Getting Long Covid when I did was helpful because there were more resources out there. I also have a background in neuroplasticity which helped. Research takes years and is very difficult from a randomised trial etc with this stuff. Most people who recover do more than one thing that helped. Everyone I know who has recovered has taken a mind/body approach. Understanding and believing in that is key. We are a system not a series of symptoms. There is much more research with pain management and when I followed this I realised that this is very similar to long covid.
@@angelaquesnel7546 I got covid when waiting for being vaccinated , first Jab. This makes my recovery journey turn harder
@@harryjohnthorburn8006 did you get your jabs? I found improvement after each of my vaccinations. Hope you feel better soon.
Thank you so very much!
Many thanks for this. Keep up the great work.
You are amazing Rachel, do you have an NLP online course ?
Wonderful Thankyou for posting this!!! I believe
I am 2 1/2 years in. Good interview but I’m very confused. At one point she says positive thinking doesn’t work, but then it seems like towards the end she’s attributing her wellness to changing her thinking. Could you help me out with this? Thanks.
Really useful, thank you.
thanks steve, glad it helped you :)
Hey Harry, thank you for your videos. I was in a bad state from covid. The anxiety and depression was off the wall. Never had depression in my life. The depersonalization is terrible. I feel like I'm watching my life from the outside. I was told this is Ptsd and put on antidepressants. It has been 11 months now feeling slightly better. I'm almost scared to go back to that place. It's horrible. I would be on edge 24 hours. The best time for me was when I was sleeping hated waking up in the morning because I knew what was ahead of me. I would just lay in the bed with my thoughts racing and thinking of the most craziest things. I was very stressed before I got covid. I think covid was the straw that broke the camels back. I thought I was going to be in this state for the rest of my life. I also had blurry vision and couldn't watch TV as I couldn't comprehend what I watching.
So sorry to hear Byron, it’s truly horrific and wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Glad you’re feeling slightly better, have you tried the brain retraining?
Thank you for your reply Harry, I haven't tried it.
@@byronscullard9558 I can relate to everything you said you went through. I too am on antidepressants because of it.
@@harryboby7563 I can relate to the submergence of the activity I feel fine when I'm doing things but then like I get home I start feeling it again I've been struggling with the fatigue for a little bit for 4 months now going on five but it's getting better what I found it really works really well for me is CBDs and also meditation and reducing my stress so I don't surround myself with toxic people
Thanks for the work you doing harry.i can see how you be a proper judoka.im a few months in.proper heavy fatigue mate.im 50 now and still obviously v active and training.covid fuck d that (for now) are you still doing well and training.hope so and ta again for the positivity.badly needed 👍👍
Thanks for the video. I'm probably a month or so in with long covid symptoms. I was virtually asymptomatic with covid, however by the 'end of infection' started getting brain fog like symptoms where I felt slightly dizzy/drunk and periods of anxiety and that impending doom feeling you mentioned. It honestly scared the crap out of me, thought I was losing my mind. I continued exercising, obviously not knowing what was going on, however that made things much worse. Nights after I was getting migraines, heart would skip beats, body jolts, and these brain zap like things where it feels like a brain version of missing a beat, found them personally scary because it's almost like losing consciousness for a split second. I find when I try to sleep on my side on it feels like everything is moving and that can result in more inflammation in the head and ultimately worsened symptoms, sleeping on my back definitely seems to help. Like Harry said though, the symptoms aren't always noticeable, it feels like it comes in waves and there are times where I can do things I enjoy and feel completely normal, but usually once I stop they reappear. I'm finally going back to work this week, I'm trying to have the mindset that nothing is wrong with me, as well as doing all the right things, supplementing, exposure to natural light and pacing myself. Determined to not let this change me, I want to be back in the gym this year and be my normal self again. Good luck my fellow long-haulers, you're not alone!
So sorry to hear Latham, but love to hear the attitude! I'm trying to spend as much time in a para-sympathetic state (breathwork, meditation, visualisations etc.) whilst working on the physical stuff I can do (mobility, pre-hab, technique etc.) I will be a better athlete because of this!
How are you doing today?
I might sound a tiny bit dismissive, but people have been told so many times that exercise is good or ideal for you after COVID, it's totally the opposite.
I've also noticed that people that complain about "long COVID" have only had a mild form of COVID.
I'm an ex ICU Covid19 patient, and I'm still suffering after being discharged over 20 months ago. My GPs and the NHS in general have not given any support, but minor cases seem to get all of the attention ... Why ?
John. I think you are right. Long haul is a collection of illnesses. Both me and Harry had minor initial illness, exercise was definitely bad to begin with because it puts stress on a system that’s already stressed. So causes long haul symptoms After a period of de stress, I believe the secret is to then gradually re introduce activity. The tricky thing is your nervous system kicks back as it’s still trying to protect you when it doesn’t need to. (Like a conditioned response) Brain re training helps navigate and overcome this. We are assuming no actual damage from Initial infection.
Exactly right Rachel! I’ve had LC for 7 months and was slowly recovering and then started therapy in august and it was too much too soon and I had a big relapse. So I sat around for 6 weeks and did nothing and just got weaker. I’ve started strength training 3 days a week with a trainer and I’m slowly getting stronger. It’ll probably take a few months to get 100% strength back in my legs. But as far as what you said I couldn’t agree more. There is definitely a right and wrong way to exercise with LC
@@rachelwhitfield ... I was in ICU with COVID back in April 2020, and still haven't recovered. That makes it 20 months and still a problem.
Because there’s so many of us perhaps, I don’t know. Plus, I wouldn’t say my illness is now “minor.” I now rely on daily carers & cannot walk.
thanks man
Depersonalization!!! I thought I was the only one! That shit is scary. Anything help you with it?
I've watched a couple of your videos about neuroplasticity, meditation, and retraining your thoughts to recover from long-COVID. Where does one learn to do this?
you can try one of the programs like gupta, dnrs, ANSWR :)
Did she have bad fatigue? Shes got so much energy it's hard to believe
I had the most debilitating fatigue for months. Im recovered now so I have lots of energy. Im back to normal. Once you learn to work with understanding the stress response, the fatigue starts to shift. Neuroplasticity made a huge difference to me.
It's different for everyone.
So Rachel these covid theories etc micro lots
Are just theories and hypothesis, not proven,
I think it's really irresponsible for her to say she doesn't believe in pacing/spoon theory. Even if it is to do with mind/body disregulation you still need to listen to your body before you've done the work and it's safe to start doing more
Been in contact with Rachel on Facebook. Shes pretty inspiring as some of those forums will have you so far down the rabbit whole you lose faith. Im only 2 and a half months in long covid, not gonna lie it's been rough. Vision issues, killer headaches, sensitivity to light and this weird feeling when I'm moving around that I'm almost looking through someone elses eyes or that I kinda have drunk vision. So hard to explain. Random but I tried to add you on Facebook as I wanted to send you a message to get a feel for things. Just miss my old life. Still kinda young, was in good shape/stayed active and didnt have any underlining issues outside axiety and some depression I guess but who doesnt in this day and age. Now i swear it's all amplified...
Sorry to hear you're suffering Kevin :( -Here you can see my article where I talk about how I got better, wishing you all the best :)
harry-boby97.medium.com/how-i-recovered-from-long-covid-207bc3fe038e
Hey dude good shit.
Did anyone experience the dread during the night with insomnia ?
How do you know exactly when to push and when to rest? I had awful symptoms straight after Covid - and then new extreme fatigue 3 months in after a brief recovery. When should I start trying to push through
it's not about pushing through. Its about being kind to self and gently persuading self that its the brain in a loop. Exposure to more is the answer BUT you have to do it with compassion to your self rather than in a stressed out way. The secret is to gently do more with a calm mind
I can totally relate to this, my body is stuck in flight or fight mode! I obsess about symptoms. Should I have a walk, etc. I still cannot walk far, maybe 300m, But Is that post viral fatigue, or is it anxiety? Would love to reach out to you guys and share your experiences.
And how are you now Nat?
How are you now?
@@MK-gy1ug pretty much fully recovered. I can walk 2 miles daily, and get no real problems. I did develop a neck problem and this persists, trapped nerve my GP thinks. Occasionally I get achy legs, but otherwise fully functional
@@aarondejesuspontonessalina8825 see my comment below, fully recovered pretty much
@@aarondejesuspontonessalina8825 all good pretty much, dropped some comments with my second google account
Thank you for sharing. I.am.not.alone!!I’m 4 months post covid. Getting better- doing life but struggling with PEM. I can do a little more exercise each week (very minimal compared to what I used to do). I’m in that place where Im wondering if it’s “me/cfs” and a little scared. What is the lightning process/GUPTA?
I honestly don't know much about the lightning process but you can find it online, and take a look at my interview with Ashok on the Gupta program :)
I’m in the same place. 4 months out and main issue is PEM and also wondering if this is going to last forever. Absolutely terrifying.
@@robotsrulejapan same. No fatigue but PEM
@Amy did PEM get better? I’m 9 mo LC and get sob and palpitations after activity
@@robotsrulejapan hi did PEM get better?? I’m 9 mo in.
It’s such a truly scary journey. Did anyone have breathlessness? I’ve had breathlessness for 8 months, it’s such a scary symptom.
I've had is since feb 2020 . It took me about 1 year and a half to get over that. Had extreme fatigue and other issues. I was slowly recovering finally able to ride my motorcycle and workout go on 25 minute walks . Then caught omicron and now the breathing issues are back and feel worse . I can barely do simple stuff around the house . Just keep your head up . Im 29 years old this shit is no joke . Hope you recover soon 🙏
I have been breathlessness for 6 months
and I have preserved saturation like 97% all the time then it is going down to 93% when I am walking and my heart rate is going up. If u don’t have deep breath just u are breathlessness maybe there is a lot of part of lung damaged. I think that I have this problem. If the better breathing is coming…I really don’t want to believe….
What do you think about that mri/xenon gas study in Britain?
How do y’all stop the anxiety dumps/ doom ?! How did your depersonalization go away??
I told myself it was just my nervous system and wasnt permanent and dealt with it as anxiety. I found nicole sachs and nicola bird and the DARE book all great for ideas for dealing with anxiety.
I get like that. It is awful and like you are finished.
Thanks for this video! How do we deal with seeing articles and new theories and people saying they are suffering ? Do we just ignore them and say they don’t understand the mind body connection ?
Hi Harry, just wondering how long your chest pains lasted? And if you have any tips to manage them? I've been told by Doctors theres no serious issue but still getting pains.
Is she easier recovery because she was vaccinated before catch virus ?