Have been laying brick for 48 years. I’m semi-retired now. I do repair jobs and mail boxes etc. i started out using a 13” Rose. We laid mostly block on commercial buildings. After a few years I developed tendinitis in my elbow and my doctor told me to use a smaller trowel. I’ve used an 11 1/2” Marshalltown London narrow since then. I like the rubber handle also. Thanks for the great video.
Never laid a brick in my live but since my grandsons need money for college we are going to pour a mowing strip with one layer of brick on top. They are 19years of age I am 82, never to young or to old to learn something new. Excellent video, very easy to follow, we can”t wait to get started. Thank you
With a leather wrapped handle! My grandfather went through quite a few of them over his 40 years. He swore the blade was stronger and liked it for snapping bricks
I have been using Rose for 22 years. It’s all about the handle. Started with the leather bound but the epoxy handle is amazing! It quickly takes shape where your pointer finger rests but somehow the butt end of the handle lasts for years with constant tapping down of material. I have always felt like there is a difference in the steel makeup between Rose and Marshaltown. When I spread a block with a Rose it feels crisp. The red handle has never felt right. Like there is a sensory disconnect. Couldn’t agree more about starting small and use what works for you! Thanks for sharing 🤙🏼
Hello, union bricklayer in Chicago, Illinois area in the USA for over 20 years. My favorite trowel is W Rose 11" philly style. I also like using a rubber bumper on end of trowel handle. Great advice/video on trowels. Start out small 10", buy larger with experience. 👍
Great video, its good to see young tradesmen like you passionate about their work. When I started out 35 years ago and trained at college I was weaned on WHS 11" with LH side straight edge for cleaning the face work and curved on the RH side (slightly) for cutting (we all know you use a bolster for that) These trowels were handed. I have now sitched to using Marshalltown 11" Phili only because you can't get WHS no more, but did take a grinder to it to get it exactly how I like.
Used marshalltown for 15 year changed to W Rose. The Rose trowel are fantastic a lot lighter in hand and lower lift on handle. 12 inch Philadelphia pattern.
My dads ol' WHS with weighted cutting edge on the right side...it is like th Boston pattern but worn on the left side to almost a Philidelphia pattern.
My father was a bricklayer for years and he always use an old wooden handle London trowel which I inherited, a few years ago I tried using it to build an extension but couldn't get on with it so I bought a 10" Marshall town Philadelphia and it perfect from the off. My son now uses the same Marshall town Philadelphia in his work and he loves it. Great video, thanks.
I have made my from stainless steel - some filadelfia, very nice and strong. But need to check ✔️ ✅️ how it's like are spring tension works . but it's was cheap, and I'm beginner-, I was very satisfied 😌 .Job done ✔️ , very nice.
My first ever trowel was the wix on didn't like it was very pointy and I am on my second wide London Marshalltown one I had it a wile does not have the lettering on side love it 👍👍👍
I'm a skinny apprentice, my mentor uses a 34/12 Marshalltown so of course I had to try something different. I tried a 11' Rose and they just felt to light for my thin arse when chopping bricks so I switched back to the Marshalltown and haven't looked back.
London marshalltown for me Rho, the phillys are just a little heavy in the hand, plus I don’t like the wide spread when you’re putting the bed down. Great video mate 👍
When I started out I used marshaltown ( Philadelphia style) for many many years . Over the last 3 years I have opted for the £5 special from the local d I y dealership. After a while a trowel is just a trowel and the action comes from the wrists and not the tool . In my opinion marsaltowns are available in most merchants and that’s why most people use them ( last min impulse buy type thing ) And to answer the question the best trowel is the 1 that’s cleaned off and in the bucket heading for the van at home time . Just remember people if you look after you’re trowel it will look after you . And ladies !! Size doesn’t matter .
I agree it's the bricklayer and not the trowel. A good bricklayer can use any trowel. And deffo, the clean trowel in the bucket after a good week is the best. Well said 🧱👍🏻😁
Husky 11 1/2 x 5” pro London brick trowel for me. Great grip, great balance, perfect flex, lifetime warranty. Also when it comes to levels I prefer my 4 foot levels to be wood. Currently own a crick level. They just work out a little better for me
great video, me my self are a 20 year old bricklayer ( in the end of being an apprentist ,,,) and have bought 3 cheaper trowels and didnt like them at al , untill a watched your videos and i know own a 11 inch london pattern marshalltown trowel, here in sweden we do not have good quality trowels , but now i have the best of the best, and could you do more videos on your trowel??? howe you where it in and maintain it , ore a cleaning video ore restoration of your first ever trowel?? have a good one! regards swedish bricky
I had the Marshaltown 19/11 with dura soft for years, swapped to the leather handle 19/11 and love it. You don't feel the letters lol but its true mate small things like that over an 8 hour day make a difference. I'v tried an 19/12 my mate uses but I kept stabbing myself and poking bricks after I laid them with the blinking thing lol
Same as yourself, Rodian. I use the Marshalltown philly 19-11. Getting close to replacement time so I am planning to try something different. I've been looking at the W Rose too......expensive, but they look to be just what I am after this time round.
That's what has put me off them, the price. They are a bit on the expensive side. If they are as good as people say then maybe it's worth taking the plunge 🧱👍🏻😁
My dad always used the 12 inch whs London broad trowel with short handle. He was piece work bricklayer so needed to pick max trowel full mortar to minimise pick up. If like me you just do small works like garden walls / small extensions then 10/11 inch trowel is less clumsy.
iv tried a few brands I quite liked the bon stainless steel wide London but I settled on the nela Philadelphia the handle is just so nice in the hand and I found I had less wrist issues than I had rom either ox or Marshalltown (not very well know in bricklaying known more for plastering tools but they do make a quality trowel
I use a London pattern i like the streight edge on it it to feel the brick if it has a lip i use a w.h.s but i think if u only use a trowel now and then there is nothing wrong with a cheep one i kan lay brick with a cheep trowel to it dont matter grate vidio fella
I'd be happy to send you a W. Rose. I have an extra brand new 11" Phillidelphia pattern. It has a wooden handle. Love your videos. Your house build video is great! Keep up the good work.
Ahh, cheers mate. That would be amazing I'd love for you to send me over the W. Rose trowel!! Send me over an email to this address rodianbuilds@hotmail.com Glad to hear you are enjoying the house build videos! 😁👍🧱
I have a leather handle marshaltown 11 inch and a W rose 9 inch leather with wood cap end . The town trowel is a good trowel but find I keep taking the little Rose out the bucket . One of the best trowel in the hand in my opinion but they all get the job done .
There's also the Berlin pattern trowel (search berliner Kelle) used on the continent. The S shaped handle must give it a very different centre of gravity. If you can get hold of one maybe you can do a review.
I’ve got the same old debate as a carpenter, estwing or Stanley for the hammers, I personally prefer a estwing over the Stanley’s because of the balance but I wouldn’t go around slagging the Stanley’s off as an inferior hammer, it’s just what feels comfy in our hand as you’ll have it in your hand 5-6 hours out of 8 in working day
I did like a nice estwing👌🏼 My hammer got pinched out of my bag, was gutted. Now I have a cheapo one from wickes......still going strong after 2 years or so.
I use Marshalltown 11 1/2 Philadelphia. Love the extra mud and the balance like you said. W. Rose is also a top choice for a few reasons. One is they are all a little different as far as snap from the manufacturing process. And the selection of handles like the half wrapped leather ones.
W. Rose are a bit less hard on the wrist. I rather them for the steel though, less flexible but hard as can be, I can break any brick or cut whatever I'd like to ridiculously easily with it. Marshalltown is what I started with and I still have a 10 1/2 Philly but the w.rose London is in its own league
I have a marshaltown 1912 with the wooden handle. its unique seems much lighter and less numb than any other 1912 I pick up. it's down to about ten and a half now and getting a bit short. I find the longer ones much easier to get your darbo in a nice long roll on the board before I lay it on the brick.
Soinds like you've laid a few with that one if it's down to a 10.5! A 12 would be a bit too big for me but each to their own. Keep up the good work buddy 👍🏻🧱
@@RodianBuilds To be honest i dont lay that many, might be on the trowel for 3 months solid then not pick it up for another three months. There is a bit of a misconception that if you use a big trowel you need to load it to the limit with darbo, and it will give you a bad wrist or tennis elbow. Id pick up the same amount of gear with a 10" or 12" trowel, but with the longer trowel its in a much better shape ready to spread on the bricks. Imagine a roll as opposed to a heap.
Stopped using marshaltown when they put the name up the side of the handle. It didn’t feel right. I’ve been using the Tyzak 12” philly for a few years now, they are about 22 quid on e bay. Nice and light and last about a year
I have a 9inch w.rose Narrow! I think it’s all in the pitch of the neck I have found! You have a lot of brands that the neck look like a 90 degree angle almost like marshalltown trowels I bought before. I think with that almost vertical neck put a lot of strain on your wrist and forearm especially If your laying up high for awhile that day! With the rose trowel the angle of the neck is less and the pitch of handle is a lot better and makes just for a lot more comfortable day of laying and less strain But that’s just my opinion every has theirs
Ragni jointers (much better quality than MT's and couple quid cheaper), but Marshalltown for trowels. Never tried a W Rose mind and reading the comments feel like I'm missing out :)
*LONDON OR PHILLY ARE PRO DOMINATE. IT IS THE LENGTH OF THE TROWEL THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT. I USE A 9" TROWEL FOR BRICK AND 11.5" TROWEL FOR BLOCK. STILL ABLE TO GET THE MORTAR SPREAD OF 2 BRICK OR 4 BLOCK PER TROWEL OF MUD. THE 9" LONDON IS EASIER TO USE DUE TO THE SHORTER BLADE.*
My first trail is the trail you use the 11inch MT but I was spilling to much muck down the cavity so I got a 10inch marshal town leather handle Philadelphia pattern and it’s good but not good for laying them big long beds. Anyway my friends 11inch MT seems lighter then mine but he says it’s because I don’t clean around the handle but I do. I think my trail could be fake I did it get it from the market. What do you think?
Ive bought trowels from a market before and thay have been perfectly fine. I couldnt tell the difference if it was fake or not so who knows. As long as it didnt fall apart after a week. Deffo sounds like you're more comfortable with the 10 inch 🧱😁👍🏻
I use a W.Rose 10” London pattern plastic handle. Perfect trowel to me. I used an ox philli for about 6 months and woke up most mornings with pins and needles in my hand 😂. Horrible thing.
Rodian Builds I haven’t bought a trowel yet but to be honest I’m gonna go for the cheap 1 cause I’m a painter by trade and wont need it after my build unless I get it right lol then it’s up to the wife if I build again don’t mean to be a dick lol was just looking forward to the vid but it’ll be worth the wait so I’ll wait lol cracking vids your putting up here mate 👍🏻
I got myself a Nela brick trowel last year, very good blade and the cork handle was comfortable. I ended up with the wide London and it was hard to spread in tight spaces so gave to the apprentice. I'm using a marshalltown wooden and leather handle 10" philly
the key issue is: use what are you used to! - wood handle - one straight side, not curved. Lets me check if the laid brick is vertical by just laying the trowel edge against it.
It is funy..in every contry i was bricklayers use a little other tools..Trowls and Hammers a in different shape..but a rectangular Trowel what for many years
This video is great timing for me, thanks again mate. Started my lvl 2 diploma recently and didnt want to bring in my (wickes) trowel haha, been using little ones at the college and theyre nice, gonna choose a philly 10inch i think, try and save the wrists a bit longer, although my right wrist is a fucking warrior! Im an experienced wanker!
I'm using a w rose 11inch Philadelphia patern really love it. I started out (only a year and a half ago mind) with a Marshalltown in same size and pattern. My wirst was aching after half an hour laying. Then I heard a few people talking about w rose and they're a bit easier on the wrist so decided to buy one and i really enjoy using it. Looking back the aches probably were due to lack of experience and the fact that my wrist was weak but honestly wouldn't look back. My boss still takes every opportunity to take the piss out of it but at the end of the day if it's comfortable and makes you money who gives a fuck?
I’ve got Marshall town for 11inch Philadelphia for when I’m on site and I use a W rose trowel at collage. Marshall town kills my wrist and rose is heavy on my forearm🤣
Nice choice of towels there buddy. I hear such good things about W Rose, I'll deffo have a go on one at some point. See what all the fuss is about 👍🏻🧱😁
Any one know a shop that stocks good selection of trowels so I can have a feel before I buy? Wickes don't have much choice nor does B&Q. Want to feel Ox, w rose and Marshall town and compare. Anyone out there know a place I can go to? Thanks 👍
Next year 50 years in the trade, marshalltown 19/11 all the way. Bought a wr rose trowel having heard they were the best for years, tbh the steel is to heavy in my opinion, nice handle though. Enjoy your Chanel , all power to your elbow.
50 years! Keep up the good work buddy! One day I'll get there. I've heard they are a bit on the heavy side, guess it's down to personal preference. Power to your elbow 🤣 not heard that before, good one 🤣👍🏻🧱
Just bought a ragni Philly pattern pro trowel 10 inch for £15!! Bargain. It's just a back up trowel but seems nice in the hand if a little heavier than my old whs.
Totally agree about starting with a ten inch. I only finished my city and guilds Level 1 in March, and went for the leather handled marshalltown 19/11 London pattern. Found it a bit clumsy to start with and wished I'd went for a 10 inch. Slowly got used to it though 👍🏻
Congrats on finishing your level 1 buddy! The more you have it in your hand, the more you will get used to it and itll wear down after a while to the perfect shape 👌🏼🧱
I've used a couple of rolson bucket trowles in the past and have been good. Never used a brick trowel though so cant say. I cant imagine them to be all that bad 👍🏻🧱
@@RodianBuilds You won't regret it. The problem with Rose unfortunately is that they don't all feel the same like a Marshy. No 2 trowels feel the same so if you're ordering on line it's a crap shoot I guess. Still a quality trowel though
Yeah There's Nothing Like a Worn in Trowel.. I Have One I Use for Stonework, It's Like an Old Friend. The Wear Isn't Something you Could Grind or Sand into it.. I Often Say it's Like it's Averaged Every Stone. it Happens to Be a London Pattern Marshalltown. I Like Marshalltown & Rose. I've a Rose Trowel that's Exactly the Same Footprint as the Marshalltown the Difference is the Angle of the Handle. the Rose is More Comfortable. I Dislike & Won't Own a Trowel with a Spot Welded Handle! Another Thing I Like to Do as I Break in a Trowel & Clean it Up Occasionally is Plung it In & Out of Damp Sand. I'll Do it On Break or in the Pile of Sand at the Stoneysrd. Give it a Nice Polish.
I'd be interested to try the difference between them both and feel the angle of the handle. I like dipping my trowel in some damp sand after a day of laying. Gets it cleaned up nicely 🧱👍🏻
No mate not anymore i bought one start off summer and lost half inch and turned into a london shape already. Been bought out by a different company and shit quality now think i was a year late buying mine. Its just a name thrown round now by people who think they have something special who dont have a clue.
@@coreytrevor8213 if you look into it the company who bought them out are Kraft tools...but there are in fact still made in exactly the same factory they always have been by in exactly the same way...by the same people
@@TheTraditionalGolfer in that case they were always turd, as I bought the 12 leather handle phill wrose. Bloke I work with bought same but m/town at bout same time and his has hardley warn mines gone crazy shaped. Its earnt its money and still feels beautiful to use but dont expect so much wear
@@coreytrevor8213 fair enough mate everyone has different opinions on trowels I've had marshaltown trowels chip and split on the blade on more than one occasion!! I'm not anti marshal town in fact I used one for nearly 20 yrs but they are made in China now out of cheap steel my rose has been going strong just over a yr not worn that much is better balanced and has a nicer shank angle so is kinda on my wrist. And I find the steel to be a much better quality but like I say everyone has different opinions.
I got a bit enthusiastic knocking up some dead mortar with me trowel and ended up with tendonitis in me wrist. Had to have physio on it and rest and it's been fine since. So take care with your wrists.
I always called stiff muck "wrist breaker" to the labourer. Didnt think It could actually hurt your wrist like that. Hope it doesnt happen again to you buddy 🧱👍🏻
@@RodianBuilds it was about 25 years ago!. Not had any problems since. It's was weird because if you put your ear to the wrist you could hear it creaking!!!
" ...I like marshalltown ... if somebody wants to send me a trowel to have a go with..." 🤣. Mate, what is this? Whatever you take, stop! It's not good for ya! I've got a couple of marshalltowns laying around, just wondering what to do with them. This was a good one mate
never by a w rose trowel online by form builders merchants every towel is slightly different . whs broad london is an excellent trowel the marshalltown are okay in both patterns. w rose hase the best steel followed by marshalltown whs has the best pattern for broad london only there philly called canadian pattern is crap. philly are only good for overhand work .
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Have been laying brick for 48 years. I’m semi-retired now. I do repair jobs and mail boxes etc. i started out using a 13” Rose. We laid mostly block on commercial buildings. After a few years I developed tendinitis in my elbow and my doctor told me to use a smaller trowel. I’ve used an 11 1/2” Marshalltown London narrow since then. I like the rubber handle also. Thanks for the great video.
Never laid a brick in my live but since my grandsons need money for college we are going to pour a mowing strip with one layer of brick on top. They are 19years of age I am 82, never to young or to old to learn something new.
Excellent video, very easy to follow, we can”t wait to get started. Thank you
Mine was a Spear & Jackson WHS that I got when I did my bricklaying course at a Skillcentre in 1982
W rose 11” narrow London for me , probably the best trowel I’ve ever used
With a leather wrapped handle! My grandfather went through quite a few of them over his 40 years. He swore the blade was stronger and liked it for snapping bricks
I have been using Rose for 22 years. It’s all about the handle. Started with the leather bound but the epoxy handle is amazing! It quickly takes shape where your pointer finger rests but somehow the butt end of the handle lasts for years with constant tapping down of material. I have always felt like there is a difference in the steel makeup between Rose and Marshaltown. When I spread a block with a Rose it feels crisp. The red handle has never felt right. Like there is a sensory disconnect. Couldn’t agree more about starting small and use what works for you! Thanks for sharing 🤙🏼
W Rose 11" wide London. I had an ox one for a few years and the missus bought me it for Xmas and it's like swapping from a vw golf to a golf gti.
Hello, union bricklayer in Chicago, Illinois area in the USA for over 20 years. My favorite trowel is W Rose 11" philly style. I also like using a rubber bumper on end of trowel handle. Great advice/video on trowels. Start out small 10", buy larger with experience. 👍
Great video, its good to see young tradesmen like you passionate about their work. When I started out 35 years ago and trained at college I was weaned on WHS 11" with LH side straight edge for cleaning the face work and curved on the RH side (slightly) for cutting (we all know you use a bolster for that) These trowels were handed. I have now sitched to using Marshalltown 11" Phili only because you can't get WHS no more, but did take a grinder to it to get it exactly how I like.
Cheers buddy 😁👍🏻 I like that you took a grinder to it to get it exactly how you like it. Goes to show every bricklayer is different 👍🏻😁🧱
Used marshalltown for 15 year changed to W Rose. The Rose trowel are fantastic a lot lighter in hand and lower lift on handle. 12 inch Philadelphia pattern.
My dads ol' WHS with weighted cutting edge on the right side...it is like th Boston pattern but worn on the left side to almost a Philidelphia pattern.
My father was a bricklayer for years and he always use an old wooden handle London trowel which I inherited, a few years ago I tried using it to build an extension but couldn't get on with it so I bought a 10" Marshall town Philadelphia and it perfect from the off. My son now uses the same Marshall town Philadelphia in his work and he loves it.
Great video, thanks.
Started off with 12 inch marshalltown but recently picked up the ox 10 inch and love it
I feel a 12 would be too big for me too 🧱👍🏻
I have made my from stainless steel - some filadelfia, very nice and strong. But need to check ✔️ ✅️ how it's like are spring tension works .
but it's was cheap, and I'm beginner-, I was very satisfied 😌 .Job done ✔️ , very nice.
My first ever trowel was the wix on didn't like it was very pointy and I am on my second wide London Marshalltown one I had it a wile does not have the lettering on side love it 👍👍👍
Yeah think i have that same wickes one lol, not great is it.
I miss my old one without the lettering. The funny little things make the difference 🤣 Sod using a wickes trowel again. 🤣🧱
Ox 11" London pattern 💯👌👌
I'm a skinny apprentice, my mentor uses a 34/12 Marshalltown so of course I had to try something different.
I tried a 11' Rose and they just felt to light for my thin arse when chopping bricks so I switched back to the Marshalltown and haven't looked back.
London marshalltown for me Rho, the phillys are just a little heavy in the hand, plus I don’t like the wide spread when you’re putting the bed down. Great video mate 👍
Every brickie has their own preferences buddy. They heavy hand feel is what I like in the philly. Were luck we have so many choices of trowel 😁👍🏻🧱
W rose narrow London 11 inch 💯👌
Exactly what i use mate with a wooden handle.....best trowel I've ever owned
Narrow london, nice 👌🏼 And a wooden handle 🔥
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Speedcrete very good site for rose trowels. Or the Leicester bricky tool shop online.
Great video. Serving my time in the 70s and being left handed I had to special order my trowels from WHS. I presume these days they are universal?.
The old stooge the newbie trick ey.
When I started out I used marshaltown ( Philadelphia style) for many many years . Over the last 3 years I have opted for the £5 special from the local d I y dealership. After a while a trowel is just a trowel and the action comes from the wrists and not the tool .
In my opinion marsaltowns are available in most merchants and that’s why most people use them ( last min impulse buy type thing )
And to answer the question the best trowel is the 1 that’s cleaned off and in the bucket heading for the van at home time . Just remember people if you look after you’re trowel it will look after you . And ladies !! Size doesn’t matter .
I agree it's the bricklayer and not the trowel. A good bricklayer can use any trowel. And deffo, the clean trowel in the bucket after a good week is the best. Well said 🧱👍🏻😁
Husky 11 1/2 x 5” pro London brick trowel for me. Great grip, great balance, perfect flex, lifetime warranty. Also when it comes to levels I prefer my 4 foot levels to be wood. Currently own a crick level. They just work out a little better for me
W. Rose 10 1/2 inch London wide is what I've been using for a while now. Chicago brickey here.
W.rose all the way I used a marshalltown for 11 years and bought a w.rose at the beginning of the year. Now I have 3 w.rose.
They must be doing something right 👍🏻🧱👌🏼
W Rose Narrow 9 1/2" Leather handle for Brick and a 10" for block.I have a friend used a Pumpkin Seed . I here the use them in England ?
great video, me my self are a 20 year old bricklayer ( in the end of being an apprentist ,,,) and have bought 3 cheaper trowels and didnt like them at al , untill a watched your videos and i know own a 11 inch london pattern marshalltown trowel,
here in sweden we do not have good quality trowels , but now i have the best of the best,
and could you do more videos on your trowel??? howe you where it in and maintain it , ore a cleaning video ore restoration of your first ever trowel??
have a good one!
regards swedish bricky
I had the Marshaltown 19/11 with dura soft for years, swapped to the leather handle 19/11 and love it. You don't feel the letters lol but its true mate small things like that over an 8 hour day make a difference. I'v tried an 19/12 my mate uses but I kept stabbing myself and poking bricks after I laid them with the blinking thing lol
I could imagine a 12 would be like waving a long sword around. I'd be knocking all the corners down every time I butter a brick up 🤣🧱
Same as yourself, Rodian. I use the Marshalltown philly 19-11. Getting close to replacement time so I am planning to try something different. I've been looking at the W Rose too......expensive, but they look to be just what I am after this time round.
That's what has put me off them, the price. They are a bit on the expensive side. If they are as good as people say then maybe it's worth taking the plunge 🧱👍🏻😁
There quality trowels a like the limber blade plenty flex in blade. Very light in hand.
My dad always used the 12 inch whs London broad trowel with short handle.
He was piece work bricklayer so needed to pick max trowel full mortar to minimise pick up.
If like me you just do small works like garden walls / small extensions then 10/11 inch trowel is less clumsy.
I agree the 12 would be a bit clumsy for me, each to their own though 🧱👍🏻 A nice worn in 11 is perfect if you ask me 🤣👌🏼
iv tried a few brands I quite liked the bon stainless steel wide London but I settled on the nela Philadelphia the handle is just so nice in the hand and I found I had less wrist issues than I had rom either ox or Marshalltown (not very well know in bricklaying known more for plastering tools but they do make a quality trowel
I use a London pattern i like the streight edge on it it to feel the brick if it has a lip i use a w.h.s but i think if u only use a trowel now and then there is nothing wrong with a cheep one i kan lay brick with a cheep trowel to it dont matter grate vidio fella
I'd be happy to send you a W. Rose. I have an extra brand new 11" Phillidelphia pattern. It has a wooden handle. Love your videos. Your house build video is great! Keep up the good work.
Ahh, cheers mate. That would be amazing I'd love for you to send me over the W. Rose trowel!! Send me over an email to this address rodianbuilds@hotmail.com Glad to hear you are enjoying the house build videos! 😁👍🧱
I have a leather handle marshaltown 11 inch and a W rose 9 inch leather with wood cap end . The town trowel is a good trowel but find I keep taking the little Rose out the bucket . One of the best trowel in the hand in my opinion but they all get the job done .
What do you think of the whs, thysack 10 inch Philadelphia pattern trowel, I suffer with tendonitis in my elbow, what would you recommend,
There's also the Berlin pattern trowel (search berliner Kelle) used on the continent. The S shaped handle must give it a very different centre of gravity. If you can get hold of one maybe you can do a review.
S shaped Handle?? I'll deffo have a look at that one! Sounds interesting 👍🏻😁🧱
Are you sure that's not an "S.S." handle?
I’ve got the same old debate as a carpenter, estwing or Stanley for the hammers, I personally prefer a estwing over the Stanley’s because of the balance but I wouldn’t go around slagging the Stanley’s off as an inferior hammer, it’s just what feels comfy in our hand as you’ll have it in your hand 5-6 hours out of 8 in working day
I did like a nice estwing👌🏼 My hammer got pinched out of my bag, was gutted. Now I have a cheapo one from wickes......still going strong after 2 years or so.
Rodian Builds
Vaughan is a nice brick hammer mate managed to pick a 18oz 1 up of amazon for a bargain price £21.
Another good video mate. You really seem like a nice guy👍
Cheers buddy, I try 😁🧱
I use a Dunlop 12” Philadelphia trowel, it works fine for me but I don’t lay bricks very often.
Mines the same just 10 inch it’s all I’ve ever used and it works for me and I’ll probably stick by it for
ever!
Stick to what you like for sure. If it isn't broke, dont fix it 🤣🧱👍🏻
I use Marshalltown 11 1/2 Philadelphia. Love the extra mud and the balance like you said. W. Rose is also a top choice for a few reasons. One is they are all a little different as far as snap from the manufacturing process. And the selection of handles like the half wrapped leather ones.
The philly has such a nice balance. I'm interested in a W. Rose....I'll give one a go one day 🧱👍🏻
W. Rose are a bit less hard on the wrist. I rather them for the steel though, less flexible but hard as can be, I can break any brick or cut whatever I'd like to ridiculously easily with it. Marshalltown is what I started with and I still have a 10 1/2 Philly but the w.rose London is in its own league
I have a marshaltown 1912 with the wooden handle. its unique seems much lighter and less numb than any other 1912 I pick up. it's down to about ten and a half now and getting a bit short. I find the longer ones much easier to get your darbo in a nice long roll on the board before I lay it on the brick.
Soinds like you've laid a few with that one if it's down to a 10.5! A 12 would be a bit too big for me but each to their own. Keep up the good work buddy 👍🏻🧱
@@RodianBuilds To be honest i dont lay that many, might be on the trowel for 3 months solid then not pick it up for another three months.
There is a bit of a misconception that if you use a big trowel you need to load it to the limit with darbo, and it will give you a bad wrist or tennis elbow.
Id pick up the same amount of gear with a 10" or 12" trowel, but with the longer trowel its in a much better shape ready to spread on the bricks. Imagine a roll as opposed to a heap.
Rose with a narrow London heel for brick, Rose Philadelphia 13" for blocks
Marshalltown is my favorite
Stopped using marshaltown when they put the name up the side of the handle. It didn’t feel right.
I’ve been using the Tyzak 12” philly for a few years now, they are about 22 quid on e bay. Nice and light and last about a year
I've heard a few good things about the Tyzak trowels 👍🏻🧱
Do the lessons apply only for bricks or do they work for blocks also?
A good tradesman will never blame his tools overcome and conquer simples.
I have a 9inch w.rose Narrow! I think it’s all in the pitch of the neck I have found! You have a lot of brands that the neck look like a 90 degree angle almost like marshalltown trowels I bought before. I think with that almost vertical neck put a lot of strain on your wrist and forearm especially If your laying up high for awhile that day! With the rose trowel the angle of the neck is less and the pitch of handle is a lot better and makes just for a lot more comfortable day of laying and less strain But that’s just my opinion every has theirs
Ragni jointers (much better quality than MT's and couple quid cheaper), but Marshalltown for trowels. Never tried a W Rose mind and reading the comments feel like I'm missing out :)
*LONDON OR PHILLY ARE PRO DOMINATE. IT IS THE LENGTH OF THE TROWEL THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT. I USE A 9" TROWEL FOR BRICK AND 11.5" TROWEL FOR BLOCK. STILL ABLE TO GET THE MORTAR SPREAD OF 2 BRICK OR 4 BLOCK PER TROWEL OF MUD. THE 9" LONDON IS EASIER TO USE DUE TO THE SHORTER BLADE.*
My first trail is the trail you use the 11inch MT but I was spilling to much muck down the cavity so I got a 10inch marshal town leather handle Philadelphia pattern and it’s good but not good for laying them big long beds. Anyway my friends 11inch MT seems lighter then mine but he says it’s because I don’t clean around the handle but I do. I think my trail could be fake I did it get it from the market. What do you think?
Ive bought trowels from a market before and thay have been perfectly fine. I couldnt tell the difference if it was fake or not so who knows. As long as it didnt fall apart after a week. Deffo sounds like you're more comfortable with the 10 inch 🧱😁👍🏻
Yeah your totally right. I can handle the 11 on footings. But not bricks (yet)
Appreciate feedback
Mine is W.rose 10" London...leather handle... great videos bro!
Cheers buddy🧱👍🏻😁
szymon kowalczyk hello mate what do you prefer the narrow or wide London pattern 👍
Awesome video. Keep it going!
Cheera buddy, will do 🧱😁👍🏻
Look at the picture of all the trowels... after a few seconds it looks like members from the k.k.k
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I use a W.Rose 10” London pattern plastic handle. Perfect trowel to me. I used an ox philli for about 6 months and woke up most mornings with pins and needles in my hand 😂. Horrible thing.
Never heard getting pins and needles was a thing. Definitely not the trowel for you 🤣
Ellis Jewell hello mate is that a narrow or wide pattern 👍
When u doing the basics mate? Am waiting on that 1 so I can have a crack at building a block summer house lol am relying on ur vids to be honest 🙏🏻
I'm starting in the next video. I just wanted to get these points at the beginning so if anyone needed the info on tools they were there.
Rodian Builds I haven’t bought a trowel yet but to be honest I’m gonna go for the cheap 1 cause I’m a painter by trade and wont need it after my build unless I get it right lol then it’s up to the wife if I build again don’t mean to be a dick lol was just looking forward to the vid but it’ll be worth the wait so I’ll wait lol cracking vids your putting up here mate 👍🏻
I got myself a Nela brick trowel last year, very good blade and the cork handle was comfortable. I ended up with the wide London and it was hard to spread in tight spaces so gave to the apprentice. I'm using a marshalltown wooden and leather handle 10" philly
Nela with a cork handle? Not heard of that before.....may have a look🤔
the key issue is: use what are you used to!
- wood handle
- one straight side, not curved. Lets me check if the laid brick is vertical by just laying the trowel edge against it.
It is funy..in every contry i was bricklayers use a little other tools..Trowls and Hammers a in different shape..but a rectangular Trowel what for many years
get a special Form but not so pointet as the english one..more round at the top..excecusemy Bricklayerenglish
This video is great timing for me, thanks again mate. Started my lvl 2 diploma recently and didnt want to bring in my (wickes) trowel haha, been using little ones at the college and theyre nice, gonna choose a philly 10inch i think, try and save the wrists a bit longer, although my right wrist is a fucking warrior! Im an experienced wanker!
🤣🤣🤣 If the wickes one works for you then sod what everyone thinks. A philly 10 inch is a beautiful trowel if you ask me though 👌🏼🧱
Thank you!
I'm using a w rose 11inch Philadelphia patern really love it.
I started out (only a year and a half ago mind) with a Marshalltown in same size and pattern. My wirst was aching after half an hour laying. Then I heard a few people talking about w rose and they're a bit easier on the wrist so decided to buy one and i really enjoy using it.
Looking back the aches probably were due to lack of experience and the fact that my wrist was weak but honestly wouldn't look back.
My boss still takes every opportunity to take the piss out of it but at the end of the day if it's comfortable and makes you money who gives a fuck?
Well said, it makes money and you're happy with it. Sod what everyone else thinks! 👌🏼🧱👍🏻
I’ve got Marshall town for 11inch Philadelphia for when I’m on site and I use a W rose trowel at collage. Marshall town kills my wrist and rose is heavy on my forearm🤣
Nice choice of towels there buddy. I hear such good things about W Rose, I'll deffo have a go on one at some point. See what all the fuss is about 👍🏻🧱😁
Rodian Builds it has less of a lift on the handle. A bit pricey tho🤣
Philadelphia 10”
Good video 👍🏻
Cheers Craig 😁👍🏻🧱
Any one know a shop that stocks good selection of trowels so I can have a feel before I buy?
Wickes don't have much choice nor does B&Q. Want to feel Ox, w rose and Marshall town and compare.
Anyone out there know a place I can go to?
Thanks 👍
Rose 10 Inch for me
10inch marshalltown philly pattern
👌🏼Good choice 😁🧱👍🏻
What do you think about the ox trowel
From the limited time I've used them they are pretty good. Not so keen on the handle but I hear they have new style ones 🤙🏼🧱
Next year 50 years in the trade, marshalltown 19/11 all the way. Bought a wr rose trowel having heard they were the best for years, tbh the steel is to heavy in my opinion, nice handle though. Enjoy your Chanel , all power to your elbow.
50 years! Keep up the good work buddy! One day I'll get there. I've heard they are a bit on the heavy side, guess it's down to personal preference. Power to your elbow 🤣 not heard that before, good one 🤣👍🏻🧱
The regular Rose is a bit on the heavy side and take a bit to work in but they also come in a limber weight which are pretty snappy!
Get a limber blade they are quality best about as Pete says plenty snap. Some prefer a more solid blade. Whatever suits
Rose makes a good trowel too
Just bought a ragni Philly pattern pro trowel 10 inch for £15!! Bargain. It's just a back up trowel but seems nice in the hand if a little heavier than my old whs.
Everyone loves a bargain!! 🤣🧱👍🏻
Totally agree about starting with a ten inch.
I only finished my city and guilds Level 1 in March, and went for the leather handled marshalltown 19/11 London pattern.
Found it a bit clumsy to start with and wished I'd went for a 10 inch.
Slowly got used to it though 👍🏻
Congrats on finishing your level 1 buddy! The more you have it in your hand, the more you will get used to it and itll wear down after a while to the perfect shape 👌🏼🧱
Use a kennedy london pattern trowel. Dont like using a Marshalltown trowel. Thats only my preference 👍
Each to their own. I'm tempted to try something different purely because of those letters on the side 🤣
Do you recon rolson trowels are any good ?
I've used a couple of rolson bucket trowles in the past and have been good. Never used a brick trowel though so cant say. I cant imagine them to be all that bad 👍🏻🧱
Ox for me Rodian equal in quality to Marshalltown but just way cheaper 👌🏼🧱👍🏼
The price has always interested me. Have yet to try an ox trowel out. They make a banging boat level 👌🏼🧱
Rodian Builds . They do some good gear 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
You use 11 inch trowel, but what's the best width should you use.
11 x 1" for that dangerous/useless feel.
I couldnt say what the best one is, everyone is different. For me the regular Philadelphia pattern is the perfect width for me 🧱👍🏻
W.Rose are far better than Marshalltown. They use much better steel and the angle of the shank is easier on the wrist I find
Second person who has said about the angle being better on the wrist. May have to try one out when mine turns onto a pointing trowel 🤣🧱
@@RodianBuilds You won't regret it. The problem with Rose unfortunately is that they don't all feel the same like a Marshy. No 2 trowels feel the same so if you're ordering on line it's a crap shoot I guess. Still a quality trowel though
See the new soft grip faithful professional range, good trowels at a good price , just the same as mt at a better price.
i use marshaltown philidephia 11 inch worn out to 10 inch 3/4 XD
The old Tyzack are good
A few people are saying that about them. Another brand I should try out 👍🏻🧱
Still at er boss. Good stuff.
Cheers pal 😁👍🏻
Best trowel is a marshaltown Philadelphia for me whs we’re shite to heavy non of the rest done it for me I am 68 retired
I GUESS YOU COULD SAY TRIAL AND ERROR .LOL THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEOS
Best trowel jung henkelmann lol 🤣 but when I come across an English one I’m buying for sure
Jung Henkelmann? Never heard of it before..... going to google that one for sure 🧱👍🏻
9:13 the wooden ones build most of the impressive buildings that we have now 😉
Still a bag of shit
W. Rose plastic handled 11 inch for brick
W. Rose plastic handled 13 inch for block.
Wow, 13 inches! I dont think my wrist would hack that. I bet you can lay your beds super quick?! 👍🏻🧱
Never understood why only get 13 inch in London pattern and not Philadelphia when philly would thought most purchased design of trowel
Yeah There's Nothing Like a Worn in Trowel.. I Have One I Use for Stonework, It's Like an Old Friend. The Wear Isn't Something you Could Grind or Sand into it.. I Often Say it's Like it's Averaged Every Stone. it Happens to Be a London Pattern Marshalltown. I Like Marshalltown & Rose. I've a Rose Trowel that's Exactly the Same Footprint as the Marshalltown the Difference is the Angle of the Handle. the Rose is More Comfortable. I Dislike & Won't Own a Trowel with a Spot Welded Handle! Another Thing I Like to Do as I Break in a Trowel & Clean it Up Occasionally is Plung it In & Out of Damp Sand. I'll Do it On Break or in the Pile of Sand at the Stoneysrd. Give it a Nice Polish.
I'd be interested to try the difference between them both and feel the angle of the handle. I like dipping my trowel in some damp sand after a day of laying. Gets it cleaned up nicely 🧱👍🏻
W.rose trowel hands down
I hear that a lot, think I'll get one when the marshalltown turns into a pointing trowel 🤣
No mate not anymore i bought one start off summer and lost half inch and turned into a london shape already. Been bought out by a different company and shit quality now think i was a year late buying mine. Its just a name thrown round now by people who think they have something special who dont have a clue.
@@coreytrevor8213 if you look into it the company who bought them out are Kraft tools...but there are in fact still made in exactly the same factory they always have been by in exactly the same way...by the same people
@@TheTraditionalGolfer in that case they were always turd, as I bought the 12 leather handle phill wrose. Bloke I work with bought same but m/town at bout same time and his has hardley warn mines gone crazy shaped. Its earnt its money and still feels beautiful to use but dont expect so much wear
@@coreytrevor8213 fair enough mate everyone has different opinions on trowels I've had marshaltown trowels chip and split on the blade on more than one occasion!! I'm not anti marshal town in fact I used one for nearly 20 yrs but they are made in China now out of cheap steel my rose has been going strong just over a yr not worn that much is better balanced and has a nicer shank angle so is kinda on my wrist. And I find the steel to be a much better quality but like I say everyone has different opinions.
8:15 neahh😁 London Wide 34-11 rules 👍
You can use wooden level because you beat it to much.
I got a bit enthusiastic knocking up some dead mortar with me trowel and ended up with tendonitis in me wrist. Had to have physio on it and rest and it's been fine since.
So take care with your wrists.
I always called stiff muck "wrist breaker" to the labourer. Didnt think It could actually hurt your wrist like that. Hope it doesnt happen again to you buddy 🧱👍🏻
@@RodianBuilds it was about 25 years ago!.
Not had any problems since.
It's was weird because if you put your ear to the wrist you could hear it creaking!!!
Конец ручки резиновый?
That catalog is ancient
" ...I like marshalltown ... if somebody wants to send me a trowel to have a go with..." 🤣. Mate, what is this? Whatever you take, stop! It's not good for ya!
I've got a couple of marshalltowns laying around, just wondering what to do with them.
This was a good one mate
never by a w rose trowel online by form builders merchants every towel is slightly different . whs broad london is an excellent trowel the marshalltown are okay in both patterns. w rose hase the best steel followed by marshalltown whs has the best pattern for broad london only there philly called canadian pattern is crap. philly are only good for overhand work .
Interesting to know they are all a little different. I'll have to find a merchant that stocks w. rose and have a look
Marshalltown durosoft 11” Philadelphia. End of
Well said 🤣🤣🤣🧱👍🏻
Nela 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Built a few walls years ago but need all the pointers I can get
Dont worry, all the info I can give will be in the following videos. I am going to address as many areas as I can.
WHS??
Trowels are far from 15 quid anymore mate!
"We be tokkin' 'bout trows."