This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact ruclips.net/user/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.
Many many thanks. You helped me understand why my pre grounded coffee was not working well in the machine. The extraction was taking around 1.5 min. I just ground my own beans a bit coarse and it worked perfectly. Got to around 30sec extraction time for 13g coffee
Hello Jessie :) thank you for this video, I'm really happy to see someone that went through the same problems I had with the Delonghi EC685, I bought it 1 month ago and I am currently an university student who loves to drink coffee and try different coffee beans. Getting an espresso machine was my dream, and bc of this, I worked 2 months in a company throughout summer, and eventually got it! I was a bit worried about the problems I faced with it but Im so happy that your video popped up on my RUclips feed and I learned that I was not the one and these problems are completely normal. I also learned how to avoid these problems from you so thank you! Now my dream is to get a nice portafilter and the steam wand you recommended :)
You can get a standard dose of coffee (18-20g) into the portafilter if you get a larger basket. I just got an 51mm IMS precision basket that fits my machine; holds about 20g max. Aside from the dose, I'd definitely recommend getting a precision/competition basket as that allows you to grind much finer and ultimate extract lighter roasts much easier. With this cheap little Delonghi that I've had since 2016, I've been making small mods here and there, and now I feel I can product espresso that's very close or even on par with the cafes in my area. Takes more time to dial in the settings than if you get a higher end machine, but once you have the inputs you like, it's easy to replicate and is very rewarding!
@@brandony8691 I have seen a couple of videos when they actually need to cut the plastic insert to fit the IMS basket. Is that what you have done as well?
I bought the bottomless portafilter from Amazon and it says you can put 16-18g in it but i couldnt even fit 15g in it, it just ends in a big mess all the time. Most youtube videos say 18g is the best for the double with like 40g out. I have the little Timemore C3 ESP grinder and the first try ended in a mess because the espresso wont fit. Is there a model that can really take 18g? The espresso i did tastes sour like hell and also a bit bitter. I bought a cheap Lavazza red to try out but maybe i should have bought a better one even for testing because if the lavazza is bad i can try my * off and it will lead to nothing :)
Great review. I'm in the process of researching the subject and appreciated your honest and down-to-earth insight into making a good expresso. Your art work is inspiring. Cheers.☕
I have the alternative version of this, E685M for the past couple of years and I love it! Got it for a similar reason, going to uni and wanted to save money. Didn't realise there was such a thing as unpressurised baskets though, excited to try one now and see the difference 😳 great review 💯
Thank you for this review of the EC685. I just bought this machine and searched for some tips and tricks. I find your VDO and like watching it so much. It was edited calm, you also speak calm and the quality of pic and tone is quite professional. First I was wondering about your combo of a budget ec685 and a pricey niche zero, but then I realized you are barista and knowing what you exactly need. I subscribed and will follow your channel of your life as a barista. Have a great day Jessie
Thank you very much for this video. I'm very impressed. I've been wanting a coffee machine for a long time, and I chose the same model as yours. I couldn't get a good espresso. But thanks to your example, I have the determination to make the quality of my drink better❤❤❤
I love your coffee routine. Gives me such good vibes every time. Thanks! :) Big fan of De'Longhi Dedica machine. Easy to make several modifications and adjust it to your own personal needs
I've just bought the E68M in black along with a bottomless portafilter & rancilio silvia wand, this video has gave me a lot of confidence in my first espresso machine purchase 😁😁
Hi Jessie, I’m the guy who saw your last modified coffee machine video. Also, I modify the steam milk stick. I’ll buy a pressurized basket which you recommended. Thanks for sharing, Have a good day!
Really enjoyed this video. I've had this machine for a 4 or so years now but really I am only just "getting into" coffee. Those upgrades are on my radar, so thanks for the review :)
First congrats on you channel, second thank you for all explainations about this coffee machine because now it is really clear to me how it works and offers. Great video, I currently have a Magimix bought 7 years ago and lately I cannot get anymore a good expresso not even crema. I changed some components like filters and water tubes, I cleaned the machine with the liquid product, but still no change. Now I know I can buy the Delonghi 685. Grazie!
Thanks Jessie for the instructing video. There are many out there but I think you shared a revealing detail. The pressurized portafilter works well with coarser grind size. I'd like to buy this machine, it looks so cool and easy to use. So if I do use it's pressurized portafilter do you think that the grounded coffee typically recommended for the Moka Pot could give a good espresso here? Oh and congrats for the seahorse 👍
I have the same machine for almost 3 years and I am more than happy with my investment. I bought almost any tool that i could find for the 51mm portafilter. Presision 19 grams basket, 19gr basket standar basket, 30 grams basket, funnel with magntets, puck screen, tamper, wdt tool, and the coffee expirence is on another level. So give it a try to find the correct basket because this looks small for a double shot.
Jessie, I’m starting out with my home barista journey and you were the reason why I got the Dedica. Like you, I’m sucker of nice looking things and the Sage/Breville was quite boring to me. I need some eye-candy to keep me inspired 😊 I got a Beige Metallic instead since white is not available in my country. It pulls café shop quality espresso with my J Max grinder using a naked portafilter.
Great video. We share the same problem with my bottomless portafilter, it does not lock to the point that the rubber from the gasket gets off whenever i'm using it. I noticed the issue was due to the 3 ear sizes it's not as thick as the dedica portafilter. What i did is i transferred the non pressurized basket to dedica portafilter and removed the black plastic. Didn't have the problem, but i can't see the actual shot. Planning to fully modify it soon.
I upgraded to a naked portafilter for my De Longhi. The best value for money upgrade out there. I am still dialling in my grind setting, I am experiencing a bit of channelling through my puck. I am already using a fine setting 2.0. might go a step finer next time (still need to buy a grinder.)
Glad to hear! If my shot is well extracted (not under/over), it doesn't channel at all. If it's under extracted sometimes it does chanel. If it still channels when it's not over/under-extracted, then make sure you distribute your grind evently and tamp with even pressure. That should solve the problem.
@@jessiegao_ I think my brew time is about right. I am going to focus on how I prepare my basket. Hopefully that will make the difference. Thanks for the advice. 😀
So the thing about all these de'longhi machines and many other brand of machines that are similar, is that the pressure release valve will not release until at basically 12 bar. If you're using a better basket and grinder and proper espresso grind you will 100% be pushing way way past 9 bars every single time. I have tested this.
I have the same machine but my Crema body of shot from stock basket is very similar to non pressurized one. Alot of comes down to bean as well I guess.
I have the dedica for almost 4 months and it's really nice, I've been dosing with 18g with a naked portafilter which might be a mistake since the coffee bed it's really close to the group shower. I might try to use a lower dose (15g) and see how this plays out. 😁
For me, the seal gets damaged quicker if I dose 18g. That's one of the other reasons that I forgot to mention :) I generally find 15g easier to dial in, but if you prefer 18g, that's fine too as long as your portafilter locks on and doesn't explode on you. It's not going to damage the machine, just the seal
I have the exact same modifications as yours except the grinder. I tried 18g and the espresso can go directly to the sink. Then I reduce the dose to 14g and it gives a thicker texture and it tastes better as well. I reckon if I put 18g, the top layer of the puck would be over-extracted and the lower layer could be under extracted resulting a bitter and sour espresso. Double sadness And your puck will touch the group shower either way as well. There are residual coffee grounds on the shower even if I use 14g. I had this machine for around a year already and I think for the price & size it really does a very good job
The dedica is marketed with 15BAR of pressure, but in fact that isn't the case at all. I've seen someone measuring the pressure of the dedica with a manometer and it was about 10-11 BAR brand new and it tends to lose some pressure along the way. Since the normal pressure for espresso is around 9 BAR, did you see any difference in taste between the dedica and a standard 9BAR espresso machine?
I never believed in the 15 bar pressure, but I don't have a measurement tool for that to actually prove anything, so I'll just leave it there. In my opinion not too much with a Columbian blend I used to work with, like I mentioned in the video, I did a comparison before with a Linea PB. I can't vouch for the other ones. You can still exteact some nice espressos solely on this machine. Also, I don't see the point of comparing a commercial 9 bar machine with a domestic machine that costs a fraction of the price.
Hey, great video! I have the same coffee machine for 2years now and just decided to move into the next level. Bought my 51mm bottomless portalfilter, normcore tamper, IMS basket and a WDT tool. The thing that I'm stuck with is the grinder. The niche is around 575euros and I really don't want to spend that much money to start my coffee journey. Been thinking about a manual grinder but the idea of spending 50sec grinding manually everytime i want to drink a shot puts me off (I usually drink 3 espressos a day so...) do you have any advice?
Thermoblocks (like the Dedica has) is a big no go for me, the heating profile is just barely acceptable. De'Longhi ECP line is as cheap and has way better boilers, and it takes just 5 more centimeters on a counter top. It has less user friendly features but none that would make it bad to use, and it is way easier to modify to push it to the next level. Like big time... Also it mainly runs too fast because it has an Ulka EP 5 pump. Coffee grind is for sure a trouble, but it wouldn't be as much of an issue with an EP/X 4 that has a slower flow. The main reason it hasn't it is De'Longhi willing to make 2$ economy per unit, and also because the steam line is very short and it would mess with milk (although they provide one of the worst steam wand on the market...). At least if someone wants to change the pump to get a way better espresso it is possible to find some room in an ECP to add a longer tube to let steam cool down a bit to avoid messing with the milk, it's tricky but possible (although it generates bigger drain when purging condensation), in a Dedica that's just impossible because how compact it is. It has some very slight advantages against the ECP, but none that would impact coffee quality. Mainly it sells well because it's cute.
Great informative video, thanks, Jessie. I've just picked up the same colour Delonghi Dedica EC685 for $A179 -cheap as. I've set my machine to deliver 'hot coffee' and set to 'hard water and intend to use a water filter to remove hard water and heavy metals to improve the taste. Being conventional I have a hand coffee grinder- 40 turns for a two-cup delivery. Am trying a stainless steel nozzle to the rubber attachment of the panarello, the machine comes with but may resort, as you have done with a major change to a Rancilio steam wand.
One of my biggest hurdles with Dedica was placing the scale to weigh on the coffee yield. I have recently changed to a smaller scale that sits evenly under the portafilter. I’m also using the timemore scale but only rarely it doesn’t flactuate before the coffee extraction. I’ll give a try with the drip tray removed, the way you do. Thank you for this video, it was super helpful!! 🤩
I just use a normal sage scale sat up on two saucers on either side of the machine, with the large drip tray removed so it's sat up level not touching the machine becuase of the vibrations throwing the weight during pour.
Thanks for the video Jessie. Very impressed by your pouring skills. I also have the Niche grinder and the Dedica (unmodified so far). I want to move to an unpressurised portafilter and the best basket I can fit, but I heard some of the bottomless portafilters on the market don’t fit the Dedica well. Yours seems to work nicely. Could you tell me which portafilter you bought and whether you could fit a 51mm VST basket in it please? Also did you end up upgrading the shower screen in your Dedica? Thanks again.
I bought my portafilter on eBay around 2-3 years ago which is no longer listed. I actually had 2, one fitted too tight before it can be properly lock in, and the one I'm using now which is a bit loose and leaks if I overdose. I think its more of a hit and miss with third party portafilters. Regarding the basket, I haven't upgraded it, so I dont have a VST basket for it. From what I can tell online, people used a IMS basket and it apparently fits? I actually might get one since you mentioned. Not sure if you mean the puck screen? No, I don't actually think it's nessesary for me and I ideally want to work with a similar grind setting I'd use at work. If you do mean the shower screen in the group head: No I haven't modified the machine other than the steam wand and replaced the portafilter.
thank you for the video. Very helpful. I did the upgrade to the non pressurized basket with open basket. Unfortunately I am facing channeling for each single shot I got. I try to be very careful when using the distribution tool and when tamping but still failing. It is sad :(
I have the Dedica as well and love your video. Can you please share a link to your grinder. Does it work well for expresso grinds? I love the style of it. Thankyou
I just bought the machine recently and starting buying gadgets for a better tamping and etc. Your vids gave me and idea what I can modify with the machine and etc. Also just wondering, is there any suggested beans that ship for Asia?
Question: I’m new to making my own espressos, I got this machine due to its size and price, but want to buy a decent grinder that isn’t 3 times its price. What’s a grinder you’d recommend that is ok budget wise considering I BOUGHT THIS machine :) and can’t deal with spending $1,000 for a grinder for a $200 machine? Thank you!!!
May I ask about when I am using the bottomless portfilter with 15g coffee bean, what is the best ratio for the espresso and the milk for reference😂🙏🏻 And also… I am still testing the coffee grind size to make a best espresso using my kinu m47 coffee hand grinder
Hi Jessie, i have the exact same setup, I would recommend getting a 51mm puck screen from amazon, produces better shots and keeps the group head clean. Can you tell me are you using a single hole tip on the steam wand? I struggle to get the right texture milk consistently so obviously need practice because you are producing some great latte art with it.
Hey, thanks for the rec, I'll look into it! Yes it's a single hole steam wand. I have an old video of the modification - ruclips.net/video/JCA9Je1R8Xg/видео.html I had an issue where the steam was leaking from the seal of the inner rubber steam wand after I removed the metal sleeve, so the modification only made the steam a bit more consistent for me (there is no difference in steam power, both the original and the modified are 1 hole steam wands). Some viewers said their steam wand was fine after removing the sleeve so I reckon it is a QC issue. Why I'm able to draw complex patterns relate to my muscle memory (aka skills haha), not which machine I'm using. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the vid Jessie! Your video basically confirmed getting a dedica as my entry machine :) Experimenting a lot these last days with it. I also got unpressurized baskets and usually fill them with 14grams so far. Just wondering one thing tho: Do you time your shots of roughly 30 seconds from the moment the first drop hits the cup or once you press the button? And what temperature did you set your machine too? :) Thanks a lot and keep up the good vids!
Extraction time starts when the water hits the puck - it starts when I press the button. The temperature was set to the highest setting, I brew with 92.5 C at work so I just wanted to hit that temperature as close as possible. Hope this helps!
@@jessiegao_ Thanks! I'll try the highest setting as well :) So far I've been using the lowest one with two quick preinfusion cycles. According to some german coffee makers this delivers best stability. But shots are definitely not consistent, so let's see how your highest setting works for me. Cheers!
Does it make sense to buy dedice with grinder like wilfa svart ? I am not keen on coffee, actually I ve been drinking capsule coffee from tassimo. I would expect somewhat like americano or espresso lungo.
hello I would appreciate if you could inform me for where i can buy the bigger portafilter. I live in Greece so i think i have to search it through net ?
Really helpful video! 😊 I wondered if I could ask, as I’ve recently got a second hand machine (ec680m), the best way to clean the portafilter & other parts that need to be washed- if that makes sense! It’s in pretty good shape and have disinfected the exterior, along with buying fresh filters. Apologies if the answer is simply to wash them as you would a cup or the water jug! Thanks 😊
If you live in an area that has hard water it would be worth getting some Delonghi water filters that will fit in your water reservoir. It will prolong the life of your machine from scaling up.
Thanks for the video! Do you think the aftermarket steam wand is much better than the rubber wand? I've been using rubber band for a couple of years if it's tied it doesn't fall off, and it can indedd make milk to do latte art. However I am also curious how much advantage can the upgrade bring
The strength has no difference (in terms of steam), If it works fine for you then you don't need to modify it I guess. The steam dynamic is slightly different because of the shape, so it's easier to transition between home/work for me after I modified it. I also have bigger jugs so the modified steam wand fits better for me. The rubber one was too short for me, so I often steamed too much foam.
Is there a bottomless portafilter that really can fit 18g? I bought two different models and i can not even fit 16g in it without creating a mess. I have the timemore C3 ESP pro and EC685. ALso the espresso tastes sour like hell, i bought the Lavazza red for testing because its cheap but maybe that was a wrong decision, maybe i should have bought a better one even for testing and wasting espresso.
Great video. I bought the exact same set-up. Even bought the unpressurized basket. However, I can't quite get the idea shot. Can you tell me what callibration do you use (grind size) in your Niche Zero grinder and did u program the dedica (such as water temp and water amount etc)? My espresso shot comes out really bitter. Help mee :)
@@jessiegao_ yepp, the beans are dark and bit old. In your video, after pressing the button, it takes 1-2 seconds for extraction to come out. In my case, it is too quick
Hi, I brought it over from China, but you can get an identical one in the following links. Aliexpress has a cheaper price but will take longer to ship. www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074QMC8FR/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_0639RC6ZN9HNBQEXDESJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 www.aliexpress.com/item/32820911470.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.40694b5eYH0Ind&algo_pvid=f5e94d8f-d526-4904-ad70-3f909e9a3669&algo_exp_id=f5e94d8f-d526-4904-ad70-3f909e9a3669-32&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2210000000062119569%22%7D&pdp_pi=-1%3B2.54%3B-1%3B-1%40salePrice%3BGBP%3Bsearch-mainSearch
Hi, I’ve had a Dedica 685 now for about 6 months, I’ve also modified it inc portafilter and steam wand but I’m hopeless at latte art, I have to use Oat milk due dairy intolerance, I keep trying but I just seem to end up with either a cappuccino or milky coffee 😂
Thanks for the great sharing!! (One little odd question: Why is the top of your pc case covered with things that will block the air flow of the cooler? Although it wont be a big problem probably....)
Hey, an amazing video. Thank you. I would like to ask if I can use the aerocino milk frothel of Nespresso for this Dedica machine. (I am lazy I know haha)
Just got the Dedica with a bottomless portafilter, and having problems not under-extracting. Getting 30gr in 15s or less with 15-16g coffee with the finest grind possible. A total noob here btw, but suspect maybe lack of pressure in the portafilter? Any tips on increasing extraction time? Is there a difference using the single or double button; atm the single gives me roughly 30gr and the double 60gr, but is there time programmed into these? I'm also using low quality coffee to practice with - would that have such a big effect on extraction time? Love the video btw! :)
Turns out my grinder can't grind fine enough. Tried with 15gr coffee I got from a coffee shop and got 30gr coffee in around 20s, so could probably go with a higher dose to get a little bit longer extraction. Found out that my Hario handheld grinder actually grinds finer (so fine that I actually didn't get any coffee out at first), so I'll be trying to find a recipe using that until I upgrade to a better electrical one.
I just bought this coffee maker, never used an espresso maker before only nespresso's capsules. how can i tell i have over or under extracted? havent gotten a grinder yet so i got pre-ground from a good coffee shop and no mods to the machine so pressurized. I like cold coffee (Freddo Espresso) do i just add 14g and press the double cup button? (nespresso capsules said i needed two doses from 2 capsules - 1 each for freddo so am i right to assume a similar way? )
I have delonghi ec 820. Do you think I could use the same handle (portafilter) like for 685? It is has also 51mm, 3 ears. I am not sure about thickness of the ears. I have tried to search on the internet, even talked to some sellers on aliexpress, but noone helped me out...
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This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact ruclips.net/user/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.
From explaining coffee machines to a sip of coffee . What a full explanation here . Very expert and massive information 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Many many thanks. You helped me understand why my pre grounded coffee was not working well in the machine. The extraction was taking around 1.5 min. I just ground my own beans a bit coarse and it worked perfectly. Got to around 30sec extraction time for 13g coffee
+1 for the naked portafilter, the grinder and the rancilio silva mod - life changer!! 👌👌
Hello Jessie :) thank you for this video, I'm really happy to see someone that went through the same problems I had with the Delonghi EC685, I bought it 1 month ago and I am currently an university student who loves to drink coffee and try different coffee beans. Getting an espresso machine was my dream, and bc of this, I worked 2 months in a company throughout summer, and eventually got it! I was a bit worried about the problems I faced with it but Im so happy that your video popped up on my RUclips feed and I learned that I was not the one and these problems are completely normal. I also learned how to avoid these problems from you so thank you! Now my dream is to get a nice portafilter and the steam wand you recommended :)
This is exactly the same thing that I felt when I saw this video. You are not alone ❤️
You can get a standard dose of coffee (18-20g) into the portafilter if you get a larger basket. I just got an 51mm IMS precision basket that fits my machine; holds about 20g max. Aside from the dose, I'd definitely recommend getting a precision/competition basket as that allows you to grind much finer and ultimate extract lighter roasts much easier. With this cheap little Delonghi that I've had since 2016, I've been making small mods here and there, and now I feel I can product espresso that's very close or even on par with the cafes in my area. Takes more time to dial in the settings than if you get a higher end machine, but once you have the inputs you like, it's easy to replicate and is very rewarding!
Wich baskets you recomend? C:
Which baskets do you use for the dedica?
@@brandony8691 I have seen a couple of videos when they actually need to cut the plastic insert to fit the IMS basket. Is that what you have done as well?
I bought the bottomless portafilter from Amazon and it says you can put 16-18g in it but i couldnt even fit 15g in it, it just ends in a big mess all the time. Most youtube videos say 18g is the best for the double with like 40g out. I have the little Timemore C3 ESP grinder and the first try ended in a mess because the espresso wont fit. Is there a model that can really take 18g? The espresso i did tastes sour like hell and also a bit bitter. I bought a cheap Lavazza red to try out but maybe i should have bought a better one even for testing because if the lavazza is bad i can try my * off and it will lead to nothing :)
@@fung5768 nah, as long as you get a bottomless portafilter, there is no need to cut your own bottom.
This is one of the best reviews I have seen, not just for coffee machines, but other producte also.
Best review on youtube about the Dedica. Thanks!
Great review. I'm in the process of researching the subject and appreciated your honest and down-to-earth insight into making a good expresso. Your art work is inspiring. Cheers.☕
I have the alternative version of this, E685M for the past couple of years and I love it! Got it for a similar reason, going to uni and wanted to save money. Didn't realise there was such a thing as unpressurised baskets though, excited to try one now and see the difference 😳 great review 💯
The package has 2 portafilters, I didn't understand in the box which is for the double dose?And Whats the difference with 685
Thank you for this review of the EC685. I just bought this machine and searched for some tips and tricks. I find your VDO and like watching it so much. It was edited calm, you also speak calm and the quality of pic and tone is quite professional. First I was wondering about your combo of a budget ec685 and a pricey niche zero, but then I realized you are barista and knowing what you exactly need. I subscribed and will follow your channel of your life as a barista. Have a great day Jessie
Thank you very much for this video. I'm very impressed. I've been wanting a coffee machine for a long time, and I chose the same model as yours. I couldn't get a good espresso. But thanks to your example, I have the determination to make the quality of my drink better❤❤❤
Thank you for this! Been living with “fake crema” for years and this video helps me to kickstart my exploration.
Love the video! The most complete and fun content about this model! Just got 1 with a bottomless pf!
I love your coffee routine. Gives me such good vibes every time. Thanks! :) Big fan of De'Longhi Dedica machine. Easy to make several modifications and adjust it to your own personal needs
I've just bought the E68M in black along with a bottomless portafilter & rancilio silvia wand, this video has gave me a lot of confidence in my first espresso machine purchase 😁😁
I like how your grinder is more expensive lol
The grinder is more important 🤫
I personally use Gaggia Classic Pro with Baratza sette 270wi grinder which has twice as much the price then coffee machine
@@GriuGriu64my grinder is less expensive but it works great
Any good grinder is above 200€ and a good grinder is the base for a good coffee, especially if it comes to Espresso.
@@jessiegao_The package has 2 portafilters,? I didn't understand in the box which is for the double dose of the box
Hi Jessie, I’m the guy who saw your last modified coffee machine video. Also, I modify the steam milk stick. I’ll buy a pressurized basket which you recommended. Thanks for sharing, Have a good day!
Really enjoyed this video. I've had this machine for a 4 or so years now but really I am only just "getting into" coffee. Those upgrades are on my radar, so thanks for the review :)
Thank you so much for the detailed information..looking at getting the niche zero in the next few days, I can’t wait
i found one of these at a thrift store for $12 and I LOVE IT
First congrats on you channel, second thank you for all explainations about this coffee machine because now it is really clear to me how it works and offers. Great video, I currently have a Magimix bought 7 years ago and lately I cannot get anymore a good expresso not even crema. I changed some components like filters and water tubes, I cleaned the machine with the liquid product, but still no change. Now I know I can buy the Delonghi 685. Grazie!
Thanks Jessie for the instructing video. There are many out there but I think you shared a revealing detail. The pressurized portafilter works well with coarser grind size. I'd like to buy this machine, it looks so cool and easy to use. So if I do use it's pressurized portafilter do you think that the grounded coffee typically recommended for the Moka Pot could give a good espresso here? Oh and congrats for the seahorse 👍
What a cool coffee grinder!
Super helpful! Thanks alot! Great Latte Art btw! :)
Very good...and the Latte Art looks very nice. Graet Job !!!❤❤❤
Thanks for your tips! I love this machine. All the best! Greetins from Chile
I have the same machine for almost 3 years and I am more than happy with my investment. I bought almost any tool that i could find for the 51mm portafilter. Presision 19 grams basket, 19gr basket standar basket, 30 grams basket, funnel with magntets, puck screen, tamper, wdt tool, and the coffee expirence is on another level. So give it a try to find the correct basket because this looks small for a double shot.
I had no problems with the Dedica using below 15g. The basket is big enough for me.
Jessie, I’m starting out with my home barista journey and you were the reason why I got the Dedica. Like you, I’m sucker of nice looking things and the Sage/Breville was quite boring to me. I need some eye-candy to keep me inspired 😊
I got a Beige Metallic instead since white is not available in my country. It pulls café shop quality espresso with my J Max grinder using a naked portafilter.
Great video. We share the same problem with my bottomless portafilter, it does not lock to the point that the rubber from the gasket gets off whenever i'm using it. I noticed the issue was due to the 3 ear sizes it's not as thick as the dedica portafilter. What i did is i transferred the non pressurized basket to dedica portafilter and removed the black plastic. Didn't have the problem, but i can't see the actual shot. Planning to fully modify it soon.
absolutly amazing guide thank you VERY much!
剛好最近搬家，也在找可以放在租屋處有限空間的咖啡機，這個影片好實用！謝謝你詳盡的分析跟解說❤️
I upgraded to a naked portafilter for my De Longhi. The best value for money upgrade out there. I am still dialling in my grind setting, I am experiencing a bit of channelling through my puck. I am already using a fine setting 2.0. might go a step finer next time (still need to buy a grinder.)
Glad to hear! If my shot is well extracted (not under/over), it doesn't channel at all. If it's under extracted sometimes it does chanel. If it still channels when it's not over/under-extracted, then make sure you distribute your grind evently and tamp with even pressure. That should solve the problem.
@@jessiegao_ I think my brew time is about right. I am going to focus on how I prepare my basket. Hopefully that will make the difference. Thanks for the advice. 😀
Very impressed with coffee skills!
So the thing about all these de'longhi machines and many other brand of machines that are similar, is that the pressure release valve will not release until at basically 12 bar. If you're using a better basket and grinder and proper espresso grind you will 100% be pushing way way past 9 bars every single time. I have tested this.
I got almost exactly same equipments as you apart from the grinder 😂 The grinder makes a huge difference when using boneless portafilter…
I have the same machine but my Crema body of shot from stock basket is very similar to non pressurized one. Alot of comes down to bean as well I guess.
I have the dedica for almost 4 months and it's really nice, I've been dosing with 18g with a naked portafilter which might be a mistake since the coffee bed it's really close to the group shower. I might try to use a lower dose (15g) and see how this plays out. 😁
For me, the seal gets damaged quicker if I dose 18g. That's one of the other reasons that I forgot to mention :) I generally find 15g easier to dial in, but if you prefer 18g, that's fine too as long as your portafilter locks on and doesn't explode on you. It's not going to damage the machine, just the seal
I have the exact same modifications as yours except the grinder. I tried 18g and the espresso can go directly to the sink. Then I reduce the dose to 14g and it gives a thicker texture and it tastes better as well. I reckon if I put 18g, the top layer of the puck would be over-extracted and the lower layer could be under extracted resulting a bitter and sour espresso. Double sadness
And your puck will touch the group shower either way as well. There are residual coffee grounds on the shower even if I use 14g. I had this machine for around a year already and I think for the price & size it really does a very good job
The dedica is marketed with 15BAR of pressure, but in fact that isn't the case at all. I've seen someone measuring the pressure of the dedica with a manometer and it was about 10-11 BAR brand new and it tends to lose some pressure along the way. Since the normal pressure for espresso is around 9 BAR, did you see any difference in taste between the dedica and a standard 9BAR espresso machine?
I never believed in the 15 bar pressure, but I don't have a measurement tool for that to actually prove anything, so I'll just leave it there. In my opinion not too much with a Columbian blend I used to work with, like I mentioned in the video, I did a comparison before with a Linea PB. I can't vouch for the other ones. You can still exteact some nice espressos solely on this machine. Also, I don't see the point of comparing a commercial 9 bar machine with a domestic machine that costs a fraction of the price.
I have the same coffee machine with exactly the same mods as you. Great minds think alike 🤜
Hey, great video! I have the same coffee machine for 2years now and just decided to move into the next level. Bought my 51mm bottomless portalfilter, normcore tamper, IMS basket and a WDT tool. The thing that I'm stuck with is the grinder. The niche is around 575euros and I really don't want to spend that much money to start my coffee journey. Been thinking about a manual grinder but the idea of spending 50sec grinding manually everytime i want to drink a shot puts me off (I usually drink 3 espressos a day so...) do you have any advice?
I like the design of this machine
Thermoblocks (like the Dedica has) is a big no go for me, the heating profile is just barely acceptable. De'Longhi ECP line is as cheap and has way better boilers, and it takes just 5 more centimeters on a counter top. It has less user friendly features but none that would make it bad to use, and it is way easier to modify to push it to the next level. Like big time...
Also it mainly runs too fast because it has an Ulka EP 5 pump. Coffee grind is for sure a trouble, but it wouldn't be as much of an issue with an EP/X 4 that has a slower flow. The main reason it hasn't it is De'Longhi willing to make 2$ economy per unit, and also because the steam line is very short and it would mess with milk (although they provide one of the worst steam wand on the market...). At least if someone wants to change the pump to get a way better espresso it is possible to find some room in an ECP to add a longer tube to let steam cool down a bit to avoid messing with the milk, it's tricky but possible (although it generates bigger drain when purging condensation), in a Dedica that's just impossible because how compact it is.
It has some very slight advantages against the ECP, but none that would impact coffee quality. Mainly it sells well because it's cute.
Great informative video, thanks, Jessie. I've just picked up the same colour Delonghi Dedica EC685 for $A179 -cheap as. I've set my machine to deliver 'hot coffee' and set to 'hard water and intend to use a water filter to remove hard water and heavy metals to improve the taste. Being conventional I have a hand coffee grinder- 40 turns for a two-cup delivery. Am trying a stainless steel nozzle to the rubber attachment of the panarello, the machine comes with but may resort, as you have done with a major change to a Rancilio steam wand.
thank you so much for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your video make me feel good thanks
One of my biggest hurdles with Dedica was placing the scale to weigh on the coffee yield. I have recently changed to a smaller scale that sits evenly under the portafilter. I’m also using the timemore scale but only rarely it doesn’t flactuate before the coffee extraction. I’ll give a try with the drip tray removed, the way you do. Thank you for this video, it was super helpful!! 🤩
What’s the deal with this? I don’t understand why you’d wanna weigh it?
Why does everyone use the Timemore scale?
@@cristobal.palmero4919 people wanna display weight of money 💰 🤑 💸 🙄
I just use a normal sage scale sat up on two saucers on either side of the machine, with the large drip tray removed so it's sat up level not touching the machine becuase of the vibrations throwing the weight during pour.
Very helpful video. Thanks ☕️
The package has 2 portafilters, I didn't understand in the box which is for the double dose?
Currently there is a EC885 which is a variant of EC685 with proper steam wand. I bought it recently, really much better.
I got an 885 for Christmas and omg the steam wand is powerful
Wow great job!!
brilliant !
what a great video
what's your extraction time for the non-pressurized basket ?
thanks you help me really
Thanks for the video Jessie. Very impressed by your pouring skills. I also have the Niche grinder and the Dedica (unmodified so far). I want to move to an unpressurised portafilter and the best basket I can fit, but I heard some of the bottomless portafilters on the market don’t fit the Dedica well. Yours seems to work nicely. Could you tell me which portafilter you bought and whether you could fit a 51mm VST basket in it please? Also did you end up upgrading the shower screen in your Dedica? Thanks again.
I bought my portafilter on eBay around 2-3 years ago which is no longer listed. I actually had 2, one fitted too tight before it can be properly lock in, and the one I'm using now which is a bit loose and leaks if I overdose. I think its more of a hit and miss with third party portafilters.
Regarding the basket, I haven't upgraded it, so I dont have a VST basket for it. From what I can tell online, people used a IMS basket and it apparently fits? I actually might get one since you mentioned.
Not sure if you mean the puck screen? No, I don't actually think it's nessesary for me and I ideally want to work with a similar grind setting I'd use at work.
If you do mean the shower screen in the group head: No I haven't modified the machine other than the steam wand and replaced the portafilter.
I bought a 50mm on Amazon
@@gigis1099 does the 50mm portafilter sit well in the groove
thank you for the video. Very helpful. I did the upgrade to the non pressurized basket with open basket. Unfortunately I am facing channeling for each single shot I got. I try to be very careful when using the distribution tool and when tamping but still failing. It is sad :(
It might be that your coffee is too stale
Hi, do you have any recommendations for a hand grinder? What in your opinion are the advantages to using a machine one apart from the convince?
Great video. What is the brand of the upgraded portafilter ?
I have the Dedica as well and love your video. Can you please share a link to your grinder. Does it work well for expresso grinds? I love the style of it. Thankyou
For how much time are you using this machine. Have you ever changed the gasket?
I just bought the machine recently and starting buying gadgets for a better tamping and etc. Your vids gave me and idea what I can modify with the machine and etc.
Also just wondering, is there any suggested beans that ship for Asia?
Hi, thanks so much for your tips. Any bottomless portafilter that you would recommend? Cheers
Question: I’m new to making my own espressos, I got this machine due to its size and price, but want to buy a decent grinder that isn’t 3 times its price. What’s a grinder you’d recommend that is ok budget wise considering I BOUGHT THIS machine :) and can’t deal with spending $1,000 for a grinder for a $200 machine? Thank you!!!
What brand is your cool mint green milk pitcher?
WPM
May I ask about when I am using the bottomless portfilter with 15g coffee bean, what is the best ratio for the espresso and the milk for reference😂🙏🏻
And also…
I am still testing the coffee grind size to make a best espresso using my kinu m47 coffee hand grinder
Hey, have you ever experienced cloudy looking water from the brewing unit? This is an issue with my unit after I have completed descaling. Thanks
Hi Jessie, i have the exact same setup, I would recommend getting a 51mm puck screen from amazon, produces better shots and keeps the group head clean. Can you tell me are you using a single hole tip on the steam wand? I struggle to get the right texture milk consistently so obviously need practice because you are producing some great latte art with it.
Hey, thanks for the rec, I'll look into it! Yes it's a single hole steam wand. I have an old video of the modification - ruclips.net/video/JCA9Je1R8Xg/видео.html I had an issue where the steam was leaking from the seal of the inner rubber steam wand after I removed the metal sleeve, so the modification only made the steam a bit more consistent for me (there is no difference in steam power, both the original and the modified are 1 hole steam wands). Some viewers said their steam wand was fine after removing the sleeve so I reckon it is a QC issue.
Why I'm able to draw complex patterns relate to my muscle memory (aka skills haha), not which machine I'm using. Hope that helps.
How slow is the steamer supposed to be? My milk only reaches about 100°F after steaming for 1 minute :/
Hi Jesse, What portafilter do you use? Thanks!!!
Thanks for the vid Jessie!! May I ask where did you get the portafilter from?
Ebay I think
Thanks for the vid Jessie! Your video basically confirmed getting a dedica as my entry machine :) Experimenting a lot these last days with it. I also got unpressurized baskets and usually fill them with 14grams so far.
Just wondering one thing tho: Do you time your shots of roughly 30 seconds from the moment the first drop hits the cup or once you press the button?
And what temperature did you set your machine too? :)
Thanks a lot and keep up the good vids!
Extraction time starts when the water hits the puck - it starts when I press the button.
The temperature was set to the highest setting, I brew with 92.5 C at work so I just wanted to hit that temperature as close as possible.
Hope this helps!
@@jessiegao_ Thanks! I'll try the highest setting as well :) So far I've been using the lowest one with two quick preinfusion cycles. According to some german coffee makers this delivers best stability. But shots are definitely not consistent, so let's see how your highest setting works for me. Cheers!
Does it make sense to buy dedice with grinder like wilfa svart ? I am not keen on coffee, actually I ve been drinking capsule coffee from tassimo. I would expect somewhat like americano or espresso lungo.
hello I would appreciate if you could inform me for where i can buy the bigger portafilter. I live in Greece so i think i have to search it through net ?
Really helpful video! 😊 I wondered if I could ask, as I’ve recently got a second hand machine (ec680m), the best way to clean the portafilter & other parts that need to be washed- if that makes sense! It’s in pretty good shape and have disinfected the exterior, along with buying fresh filters. Apologies if the answer is simply to wash them as you would a cup or the water jug! Thanks 😊
If you live in an area that has hard water it would be worth getting some Delonghi water filters that will fit in your water reservoir. It will prolong the life of your machine from scaling up.
Descaling powder and boiling water would work fine
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Thanks for the video! Do you think the aftermarket steam wand is much better than the rubber wand? I've been using rubber band for a couple of years if it's tied it doesn't fall off, and it can indedd make milk to do latte art. However I am also curious how much advantage can the upgrade bring
The strength has no difference (in terms of steam), If it works fine for you then you don't need to modify it I guess. The steam dynamic is slightly different because of the shape, so it's easier to transition between home/work for me after I modified it. I also have bigger jugs so the modified steam wand fits better for me. The rubber one was too short for me, so I often steamed too much foam.
can you maybe share the link of your portafilter?
thank you
Do you always do a double shot when dosing 15 grams? If so, how many grams of espresso do you usually output?
Is there a bottomless portafilter that really can fit 18g? I bought two different models and i can not even fit 16g in it without creating a mess. I have the timemore C3 ESP pro and EC685. ALso the espresso tastes sour like hell, i bought the Lavazza red for testing because its cheap but maybe that was a wrong decision, maybe i should have bought a better one even for testing and wasting espresso.
Hi thx much where did you buy that modified steam wand please....
Great video. I bought the exact same set-up. Even bought the unpressurized basket. However, I can't quite get the idea shot. Can you tell me what callibration do you use (grind size) in your Niche Zero grinder and did u program the dedica (such as water temp and water amount etc)? My espresso shot comes out really bitter. Help mee :)
grind size varies on the beans. it can vary between #6-15. It's most likely you bought dark roast beans?
@@jessiegao_ yepp, the beans are dark and bit old. In your video, after pressing the button, it takes 1-2 seconds for extraction to come out. In my case, it is too quick
What bottomless portafilter are you using? I need one for my dedica.
Hey Jessie, love the video! Do you have a link to the small scales you use?
Hi, I brought it over from China, but you can get an identical one in the following links. Aliexpress has a cheaper price but will take longer to ship.
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074QMC8FR/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_0639RC6ZN9HNBQEXDESJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
www.aliexpress.com/item/32820911470.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.40694b5eYH0Ind&algo_pvid=f5e94d8f-d526-4904-ad70-3f909e9a3669&algo_exp_id=f5e94d8f-d526-4904-ad70-3f909e9a3669-32&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2210000000062119569%22%7D&pdp_pi=-1%3B2.54%3B-1%3B-1%40salePrice%3BGBP%3Bsearch-mainSearch
Hi, I’ve had a Dedica 685 now for about 6 months, I’ve also modified it inc portafilter and steam wand but I’m hopeless at latte art, I have to use Oat milk due dairy intolerance, I keep trying but I just seem to end up with either a cappuccino or milky coffee 😂
I'll be releasing a video on the basics of milk steaming soon :)
How much espresso comes out band can we change the amount like I need espresso shots not americano ❤please advise
Thanks for the great sharing!!
(One little odd question: Why is the top of your pc case covered with things that will block the air flow of the cooler? Although it wont be a big problem probably....)
They were my hardrive and my phone that was recording audio
@@jessiegao_ Arrr I see. As a PC nerd, it's nice to see a clean build like this. Keep up the great vlog work!
Hi i have an EC685 + niche zero as well! Which grind size do you use?
Hey, an amazing video. Thank you. I would like to ask if I can use the aerocino milk frothel of Nespresso for this Dedica machine. (I am lazy I know haha)
Hi
Gaggia carezza deluxe or delonghi dedica is better?
I used a non pressurized basket with my 685 and it spray coffee everywhere.. :(
Just got the Dedica with a bottomless portafilter, and having problems not under-extracting. Getting 30gr in 15s or less with 15-16g coffee with the finest grind possible. A total noob here btw, but suspect maybe lack of pressure in the portafilter? Any tips on increasing extraction time? Is there a difference using the single or double button; atm the single gives me roughly 30gr and the double 60gr, but is there time programmed into these? I'm also using low quality coffee to practice with - would that have such a big effect on extraction time?
Love the video btw! :)
Turns out my grinder can't grind fine enough. Tried with 15gr coffee I got from a coffee shop and got 30gr coffee in around 20s, so could probably go with a higher dose to get a little bit longer extraction. Found out that my Hario handheld grinder actually grinds finer (so fine that I actually didn't get any coffee out at first), so I'll be trying to find a recipe using that until I upgrade to a better electrical one.
You remind me somehow of a very young Joanna Lumley in some of your facial expressions!
I just got a non pressurized portafilter and am not sure the grind size to start out on, any suggestions?
I just bought this coffee maker, never used an espresso maker before only nespresso's capsules. how can i tell i have over or under extracted? havent gotten a grinder yet so i got pre-ground from a good coffee shop and no mods to the machine so pressurized. I like cold coffee (Freddo Espresso) do i just add 14g and press the double cup button? (nespresso capsules said i needed two doses from 2 capsules - 1 each for freddo so am i right to assume a similar way? )
Hey! What size pitcher do you use for a cappuccino pour and a latte pour?
Are you using single-hole tip on that wand?
Did you change steam nozzle?
I have delonghi ec 820. Do you think I could use the same handle (portafilter) like for 685? It is has also 51mm, 3 ears. I am not sure about thickness of the ears. I have tried to search on the internet, even talked to some sellers on aliexpress, but noone helped me out...