I am once again asking you to please use a pressure pot for this project. Force all the resin into the voids rather than trying to pull all the air out.
@@piraterubberduck6056 there's no reason to vacuum it first, the pressure actually crushed the air bubbles down enough that they're impossible to see and it looks the same as if you vacuumed it
Instead of vacuum, use pressure. Vacuum can only apply about 14psi where as if you use pressure, you could put 150psi on it. That should push the resin all the way into the rubber band folds.
I'd probably say pull the vacuum first, then move it to a pressure pot for absolute best penetration. There's still gonna be a slight air cushion in the bands, and that trapped pressure could still add to the spring force pushing them out of the cross section. Just my uneducated guess.
So what happened to the other two, you know, the two who used to be in all of the videos? the tall one, and the one that licks things. What happened to them two?
IDK why but the sheer silence of the shop in this video, and the fact that it mostly takes place in the office, makes it feel like you guys secretly snuck in at 2 in the morning to prove to everybody that you could make a successful rubber band ball when you were told to stop wasting company resources on it lol On that note, I'm invested and can't wait for part 4 of this thrilling saga
Rubber makes pretty good seals, and with all the pressure from the rubber bands it's probably pushing all the resin out from in-between the bands (especially in the middle).
you should use a pressure chamber, instead of a vacuum pump. The pressure will remove the air by making the bubbles microscopic and will force the resin deep into the item being cast.
what people don't understand is once they perfect the resin technique, the waterjet channel will become as gods and turn ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING into slices. They will be able to cut apart a turbo, a watch, and many other things apart with perfect optical clarity.
@@skycorrigan6511 with a vacuum chamber you can only get up to 1 atmosphere of pressure while a pressure pot gets you potentially 10+ depending on your pressure source.
My thought it soaking the initial ball bands in a resin while making it, but if that’s not possible due to slip then just using a thinner resin and curing it so you have a rock hard centre. Then using your method to continue. I think when you have the layers it allows for some thick resin shells to stabilize the structure. Just trying to get that at the middle seems like the trick, possibly there’s a way to inject something in the middle, or making a little spiked ball at the middle to stabilize
I'm thinking you should start with a rubber bouncy ball then use like 20 different size rubber bands so when you put it on the ball it's not compressing the center as much as. If you wrap it with a gradient of bands that increase in size with the diameter of the ball there shouldn't be much pressure in the center and when you cut it the bands won't want to retract, instead they will already be at there natural form with light pressure
Maybe a video answering the heap of times we ask, What has happened to this channel? You two are running it into the ground, I subbed for the og duo and cutting random stuff in half, Or stuff sent in, PO box!! Gonna unsub like loads have. Resin isn't that interesting when it's only token vids.
Resin-wetted rubber seals against vacuum. Vacuum the ball and cup, then (possibly by just tipping the whole chamber, with prepared ramp inside) drop the ball into the vacuumed resin.
I think the more streached a band is the more likely it is to set better because the outer layers are where they are stretched And When a band is taught it is less likely to be "spongy" so try like maybe a marble with small rubberbands then medium then large and it should work.
Making the center so tight is what's causing the issues. The thinness of the resin and the strength of the band to return to its relaxed state make the center pop when it's not surrounded.
You might have to try curing under pressure, I don't recommend this but it can be done in a paint pressure pot. If you need additional heat to cure you will need an autoclave
Y’all should get some cactus juice resin. It does a much better job of filling air pockets in objects being cast. Peter Brown has used it on his channel
i mean i imagen part of the reason the individual bands where not distinguishable on this one was because the bands where all the same color also use a pressure pot not just a vacuum chamber
Why not try injecting small amounts of resin into the ball core and for roughly every 10 wraps after until you reach the size you want; curing as you go?
Alot of rubber band balls have a solid core, such as a golf ball. It's simply a good place to start. Yes it would be cool to have it solid all the way through. But consider that, drill some holes in the ball to the resin penitrates. Otherwise you might have so much compression you squeeze out resin holding it in tact.
Maybe you can start off with a straw that goes to the middle of the rubber ball? Once you get the ball big enough, pour some epoxy inside the straw and blow some air with a compressor?
get a giant needle and inject it from the centre out on the small core. if you wrap it around the needle rather than poking it in you might avoid breaking bands whilst building it
Loving the resin videos. Sort of looks like fat flat noodles when cut thin like that. cant wait to see the episode on the bananas as well. Would like to see you guys attept a bundle of flowers in resin next might need to dry them out first.
You should have tried using impregnating resin on the full size ball, pull a vacuum on it and let it sit in that vacuum for a full day then put it into a pressure pot for another full day. Then take it out wrap it in aluminum foil and cure it, then repeat the whole process with normal resin. That process most likely would have worked.
You need a silicone ball mold. Fill it with resin and then one rubber band at a time till you cant squeeze anymore in there. The bands won't be stretched to where they're squeezing out all of the resin, but will still be packed in a smaller space. Make sure the ball is big enough, though, that when it hardens you can put more rubber bands on the outside without having to double twist them. Is it cheating? Maybe. Will it make things easier? Also maybe.
Did Dan and Mitchell give up on the channel?
I am once again asking you to please use a pressure pot for this project. Force all the resin into the voids rather than trying to pull all the air out.
vote Bernie
Use the vacuum chamber to pull the air out and then put it in the pressure pot to cure. Then you get the best of both.
Bernie Sanders is that you?!
@@piraterubberduck6056 there's no reason to vacuum it first, the pressure actually crushed the air bubbles down enough that they're impossible to see and it looks the same as if you vacuumed it
Instead of vacuum, use pressure. Vacuum can only apply about 14psi where as if you use pressure, you could put 150psi on it. That should push the resin all the way into the rubber band folds.
The point of the vacuum is to expand the bubbles making them float to the top easier. Pressure would do the opposite.
@@isaacclark6749 go watch Peter Brown and tell me again that pressure pots are gonna lead to bubbles.
@@isaacclark6749 oh please tell me more about how you know nothing about resin
@@godisfraud don't encourage this shit Mom
chill please
whens dad getting home btw
I'd probably say pull the vacuum first, then move it to a pressure pot for absolute best penetration. There's still gonna be a slight air cushion in the bands, and that trapped pressure could still add to the spring force pushing them out of the cross section. Just my uneducated guess.
So what happened to the other two, you know, the two who used to be in all of the videos? the tall one, and the one that licks things. What happened to them two?
I've been wondering that too.
Everyone wants to know but we aren't being giving answers. I think it's going to kill their channel tbh. As long as they keep quiet.
I believe they no longer work for the company that owns the water jet
Who?
probably got cut on the water jet machine
What happened to the other guy that used to do these videos did he get fired or something
Idk but I’m worried about this channel
What happen to the original 2 guys in the videos? Not saying the new guys sucks but bring back the originals
I thought Dan just had a kid, so maybe that's why he's not around as much. Maybe I'm misremembering though.
The same thing as with the waterjet, they got reduced to occasional cameos. I mean this is more or less the "Epoxy Resin Channel" now.
i kinda am saying the new guys suck, most of the times i want to punch their face for their stupid shit
I don't hate these guys, but I subscribed because of the first two, not the side characters.
I agree
IDK why but the sheer silence of the shop in this video, and the fact that it mostly takes place in the office, makes it feel like you guys secretly snuck in at 2 in the morning to prove to everybody that you could make a successful rubber band ball when you were told to stop wasting company resources on it lol
On that note, I'm invested and can't wait for part 4 of this thrilling saga
Bring back Dan. Sorry I’m not going to like these videos without them.
Yeah, it sucks without Dan
I guess this is the Neil's channel now.
Rubber makes pretty good seals, and with all the pressure from the rubber bands it's probably pushing all the resin out from in-between the bands (especially in the middle).
i would have never guessed it would have been filled with rubber bands on the inside amazing video
if you watch really closely, you can see when he put the rubber bands in the center. pretty wild
Biggest surprise ending of the century 😮
@@PatrickAdairDesigns i could not belief
you should use a pressure chamber, instead of a vacuum pump.
The pressure will remove the air by making the bubbles microscopic and will force the resin deep into the item being cast.
Change the name resin channel at this point. Want the og guys back
Agreed, unsubscribing.
Gave them one more chance since last video...
what people don't understand is once they perfect the resin technique, the waterjet channel will become as gods and turn ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING into slices. They will be able to cut apart a turbo, a watch, and many other things apart with perfect optical clarity.
What happened to Dan? Is he not in videos anymore? Feel like I haven't seen him in forever.
Thought he had a kid, maybe he's focusing on that instead of being in videos. I dunno.
Wait ...who are these guys and they didn't taste a damn thing lol
Well... one of them did a quick taste, but his spit-take proved that he is truly no Mitchell.
make a pressure chamber and use that instead of the vacuum, it does not bubble up and works even better
What's the difference btw the two?
@@skycorrigan6511
one is pulling the air out, the other is pushing the resin in.
@@skycorrigan6511 with a vacuum chamber you can only get up to 1 atmosphere of pressure while a pressure pot gets you potentially 10+ depending on your pressure source.
I would’ve never guessed that this method would’ve STILL resulted in bands wanting to come out. The end result still looks really nice though 👍
Can you loan them your pressure pot?
Perfect timing I just started making breakfast
U mean lunch??
Very cool. Where are Mitchell and Dan?
I'm so glad niches like this exist
Sheer reason being, someone's gotta do it
And you're that someone
We all think thats pretty cool :)
Resin videos are dope for the cross sections! Keep it up boys 💪
My thought it soaking the initial ball bands in a resin while making it, but if that’s not possible due to slip then just using a thinner resin and curing it so you have a rock hard centre. Then using your method to continue. I think when you have the layers it allows for some thick resin shells to stabilize the structure. Just trying to get that at the middle seems like the trick, possibly there’s a way to inject something in the middle, or making a little spiked ball at the middle to stabilize
Where are the original 2 people?
What happened to Dan?
I'm thinking you should start with a rubber bouncy ball then use like 20 different size rubber bands so when you put it on the ball it's not compressing the center as much as. If you wrap it with a gradient of bands that increase in size with the diameter of the ball there shouldn't be much pressure in the center and when you cut it the bands won't want to retract, instead they will already be at there natural form with light pressure
Maybe a video answering the heap of times we ask, What has happened to this channel? You two are running it into the ground, I subbed for the og duo and cutting random stuff in half, Or stuff sent in, PO box!! Gonna unsub like loads have. Resin isn't that interesting when it's only token vids.
Hey Everyone been away for a while what happened to the other two guys who started the Chanel "no criticism just a question"😊
I didn't realize this was an outcome I was rooting for, but I'm stoked to be here for it.
You really should use a pressure pot to press the resin in each air pocket. In most situations this is the better way to create clear resin castings.
Damn that slice was actually pretty cool how it was still holding unlike the first attempts in other videos
the part 2 everyone needed!
Resin-wetted rubber seals against vacuum. Vacuum the ball and cup, then (possibly by just tipping the whole chamber, with prepared ramp inside) drop the ball into the vacuumed resin.
7:42 looks like a coaster I’d want for my daily cup of coffee
I think the more streached a band is the more likely it is to set better because the outer layers are where they are stretched And When a band is taught it is less likely to be "spongy" so try like maybe a marble with small rubberbands then medium then large and it should work.
KEEP TRYING!!!
DON'T GIVE UP!!!
Frigging awesome job regardless of rubberbands trying to flee!
Making the center so tight is what's causing the issues. The thinness of the resin and the strength of the band to return to its relaxed state make the center pop when it's not surrounded.
Try using a pressure pot instead of a vacuum chamber
You guys need to talk about where Dan and Mitchell went
You could put a metal straw or something like that to pour resin down to the centre and keep lifting it up two different layers
Ooh you almost got it all the way through never mind
This marks a triumphant day in waterjet history. All that resin research really paid off.
So is Dan and Mitch just gone now? What’s going on?
You might have to try curing under pressure, I don't recommend this but it can be done in a paint pressure pot.
If you need additional heat to cure you will need an autoclave
You literally recommended it in your first sentence.
Would stabilizing resin work for this project? Like, just put the rubber band ball in a tank of stabilizing resin and bake it to harden?
Y’all should get some cactus juice resin. It does a much better job of filling air pockets in objects being cast. Peter Brown has used it on his channel
Why aren't Dann and Michel making there own video's anymore?
Oooo vitaly works for you guys , how cool 😎
Amazing, it looks so cool on the inside!!
great job Stravor
Came for “the last thing I Mtn Dew”
Stayed for shenanigans
Maybe try a penetrating resin for wood working? Bc it’s super thin and designed to be pulled into teeny tiny air gaps
Vacuum pump to get the resin in, pressure pot to keep it in while it cures
i mean i imagen part of the reason the individual bands where not distinguishable on this one was because the bands where all the same color
also use a pressure pot not just a vacuum chamber
Vacuum chamber makes sense but pressure pot is the play from what i have see.
My theory is Null kidnaped mitch and bigbird and took over the channel!!!
Lick trice if you need us to send help xD
How soon after you have a cutting tool do you start thinking about all the stuff you can cut? Upon first viewing? Upon first viewing.
Why not try injecting small amounts of resin into the ball core and for roughly every 10 wraps after until you reach the size you want; curing as you go?
Who are you?
These guys really need to make some sort of announcement or something explaining these changes we've been seeing the last few months...
Alot of rubber band balls have a solid core, such as a golf ball. It's simply a good place to start. Yes it would be cool to have it solid all the way through. But consider that, drill some holes in the ball to the resin penitrates. Otherwise you might have so much compression you squeeze out resin holding it in tact.
I'm so early to this video it's yesterday.
The rubber bands may have expanded in the vacuum chamber displacing the resin. So not as much resin in the core as you think.
Maybe you can start off with a straw that goes to the middle of the rubber ball? Once you get the ball big enough, pour some epoxy inside the straw and blow some air with a compressor?
Fill a plastic tub with resin and start the rubber band ball completely submerged. You can wear arm length rubber gloves.
True curing it in the pressure pot over night
get a giant needle and inject it from the centre out on the small core. if you wrap it around the needle rather than poking it in you might avoid breaking bands whilst building it
This new series resin-ates with me.😁
Am I thinking of a different channel or did you two just hit puberty all of a sudden?
Man outies are freaky
Loving the resin videos. Sort of looks like fat flat noodles when cut thin like that. cant wait to see the episode on the bananas as well. Would like to see you guys attept a bundle of flowers in resin next might need to dry them out first.
You should have tried using impregnating resin on the full size ball, pull a vacuum on it and let it sit in that vacuum for a full day then put it into a pressure pot for another full day. Then take it out wrap it in aluminum foil and cure it, then repeat the whole process with normal resin. That process most likely would have worked.
You need a pressure pot, it works way better than a vacuum chamber.
If you put water in a vacuum chamber then immediately put it in the freezer would the absence of air inside of the water give you crystal clear ice?
TFW your waterjet becomes a... bandsaw.
pressure is key
put a super ball in the middle or some call them bouncy balls might help the compression in the middle
When are u going to put a smart car in resin
Palmer is handsome as hell
Maybe you could inject resin with a needle into the center of the Rubber band ball it could work
Stabilizing Resin! Cactus
I was thinking of wrapping them soaked in resin individually but I was like no way that's too tedious... guess not!
You could’ve just put a straw into the center of it like one of those small coffee straws to suck the air out of the center
What did you do to mitchel???
Melt the rubber bands together in the middle, then vacuum chamber. They're too tight in the middle, so no acrylic is getting in.
Use something solid in the middle like a golf ball
Nice video with resin. And also did the lick test
Who are these guys?
I must have missed something. Who are these dudes in the video. Where did the original guys go??
Dan and mitchel got encased in resin :(
Denatured alcohol in a spray bottle works better than using a torch to pop the bubbles
You need a silicone ball mold. Fill it with resin and then one rubber band at a time till you cant squeeze anymore in there. The bands won't be stretched to where they're squeezing out all of the resin, but will still be packed in a smaller space. Make sure the ball is big enough, though, that when it hardens you can put more rubber bands on the outside without having to double twist them. Is it cheating? Maybe. Will it make things easier? Also maybe.
Forbidden pasta
i wounder if you started with a resin core then built off that how it would come out
Who is this guy.
It looks like a cabbage ball.
Why is this guy licking things? Maybe doing something original would work better.
After putting them under vaccum, you should put them under pressure with the resin to force it in
Maybe you could use rubber cement for the first beginning of the process also