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Technics just has a special place in our 80s Hifi hearts , its the systems we grew up wanting. Probably will buy one even if I regulate it to my garage amp, just cause.
Yup, as someone born in 67, I used to circle around local Technics/Panasonic shop, jaw half dropped, salivating and 'wanting'. I could spend minutes and minutes being mesmerized and hypnotized with the moving needles on their power and integrated amps.
Still in love with my SU-G700v1 (bought on your recommendation). So thrilled to hear that I don't have to put it on the curb for bulk pick-up! Paired with my Forte IV it is magic often times. Props to Geno Engine, whatever you are!
When yall joke about skipping to Kristi part, it's true! This channel is the best of the hi fi review channels, because the level of production is cinema-like level, but also no one has a Kristi! I watch yall videos all the way through, but I'll admit, I'm like, "let's hear what Kristi thinks." To me its the best and most unique part of the videos. I bet she's a ton of fun to be around and she adds a lot of value to the channel!
I'm glad to see reviewers raise the standard for what to expect for your hard earned money! After all, sound doesn't happen at all if you are unable to connect your amp to any one of the many sources that are now available & may be preferable to you at some point. It is a different universe than the one that created the minimalist approach many of my generation had reason to value or do value.
I restored my dad’s Technics SA-5550 over the pandemic, so I have a fondness (bias) for Technics amps. This channel and that amp have rekindled my love of 2-channel stereo. Thank you Andrew and Kristi so much for your hard work, I adore your channel/videos.
It’s no question that you have improved so much with your reviews over three years but I have to admit, I miss the emotion that Andrew use to share with older reviews. Anyway, I can’t wait to get this amp in my house. I’ve been eyeing it for years and it is time to make it happen. Thanks 🙏 ❤
This amp together with the Wharfdale Linton's are on my wishlist for next year. Should look and sound great with the rest of the silver and wood vintage gear. Especially with the Linton's regularly coming up second hand for €750 with the stands. The Mk1 Technics was available last month for as little as €1695 but you're right, they seem to be sold out everywhere. I'm using a low-powered mini-pc as my media center and streamer so the USB in is required.
One of the best looking audio equipment, so handsome. Brings back happy memories of when I first started enjoying music, and talked my parents into getting our first CD player 25 years ago.
Got the SUG700MkII and the SL1200G for myself based purely off your recommendation Andrew loved your older reviews. Absolutely love it! Will hold onto it for the long haul! Amazing setup! Thanks Mate.
I bought one SU-G700 MK2 on eBay some months ago. The seller asked a base price that was much less than half the price for it new and proved that the amplifier was acquired 10 days before he put it on auction. Everyone thought it was a "brick" (mee too) and I was the only one to offer the base price and got it. It was a brick, in the sense that one of the Line 2 analog inputs was not working at all, no sound (shame on the seller) but... I'm an electronics guy so got the maintenance manual (that simply says: "if you have this problem swap that board, if you have that problem swap the other board"), checked the main board with all those little smd components, almost ready to swap the Burr Brown adc when my eye fell on the input connector... and... I discovered that when the connector was pressed on the board, during manufacturing, the central pin did not go through the hole in the board and was everted (shame on Technics Q.C.). The easiest repair of my life, with the added bonus that I didn't have to change any component. So I became the happy owner of a, perfectly functional, like new 700MK2 at a low price. This long preamble to say just one thing I don't like about this amp. The USB input is not compatible with Linux; everytime there's a sampling change from one song to the other, you have to push play again on your device to play the song. That means no Volumio/RuneAudio/Moode/whatever on Raspberry Pi without a coax piggy board. That's what I hate most about the Technics.
Kristi, oh Kristi! You SHINE in your contributions. It's been a while since I've commented, but had to here. I cannot believe its been that long since I've been watching and subscribed to this channel from the start. Andrew, you're going to have to break your wife's segment off into another channel as sort of a "point/counter point thing! I've been here through Andrew's cathartic openness about his depression episodes, your engagement, marriage and new home build. You both work so well together, even in your respectful disagreements. Now in the market to upgrade my Harmon Kardon vintage 330A, you might have me sold on the MK1! Carry on you two! PLEASE DO!
I have the Mk 1 and love it. No hdmi isn’t a problem for me as I have it in my living room which doesn’t have a tv. Nice to know I’m not missing out on anything major with the Mk 2. Great review, guys!
I just connect it to the Sl G700 for network streaming, SACD etc. I don't care that it doesn't have HDMI because I don't use it for TV. If I did, I'd be happy with optical.
These amps look soooooooo good. A return to the Art Piece. I'd buy one just to have it on the shelf. Some people buy Picasso. To me, audio gear can be beautiful. And these are right up there with the best I've seen.
Mr. Robinson, I hope you read this! Thank you very much! I also posted on your Technics SU-G700MK1 review. I felt it best to also share here for folks wondering how a SU-G700MK2 would push Polk R700's since I have both connected, and that was my biggest question going into this project at home. I sincerely hope that's OK. Thank you. I bought the Technics SU-G700M2 two channel amp after watching your video(s) and paired with new Polk R700's (also reviewed by you). Then I connected up my near-mint Vintage Technics SL-QL1 Linear Tracking turntable, added in a new OEM (vintage) Audio Technica cart with frequency response of 5-35,000 Hz. Holy Cow! WOW! Dang! Everything you said about both this amp and these speakers speaks the truth, as you would say, "full stop." I have friends come over that listen for hours and say how quiet, how nuanced, how silky smooth the sound is...and as you pointed out, neutral. I will say, I have never been a fan of neutral myself at all, until now. I actually get all giddy waiting to play a new piece of vinyl...how absolutely controlled, yet dynamic the sound is. Never harsh, never brash, never boomy. Just...sounds...amazing. It's that good. At least for me and my setup. I play a variety of music and this system just owns it. I do customize the tone at times of course because, well that's my taste. Does this paring call out bad pressings/recordings on records. Oh yeah, for sure. But the flip side is if you have a nice piece of vinyl (recorded from the master tapes)...holy effin cow. I mean...it goes to another level of fidelity, clarity and also, silence! For those wondering if the Technics SU-G700M2 can push these R700 speakers (which was my biggest concern), the answer is a non-hesitant YES! Not even remotely an issue. Keep in mind how large a room you wish to push these through, as with any setup. I also ran the LAPC again after a 200 hour break in and the sound change was noticeable, yet subtle, and it was better! I am very happy. :) Any questions, feel free to ask folks...
I feel excactly the same way ... so clear ... people come by and listen to vinyl on my system and are blown away. But the vinyl pressing makes a HUGE difference. I have mine paired with Sonus Faber SonettoIIs and a REL Tx7 Sub ... (I bought the Sonettos for the boost in the mid to high, as I am getting older and those frequencies are starting to be a bit harder to hear) But I have hooked a few pairs of speakers to it and it had driven anything I have hooked up after LAPC
I currently own this amp and have found the following. Pairs exceptionally well with the LS50 meta’s and kc62 sub. This is the third amp I have tried with them and this combo is night and day better than the others. I also have a pair of Cornwall 4’s and I didn’t find that pairing quite as good. I do have a problem with the amp shutting off periodically. I can’t imagine it is overheating as it runs quite cool. interesting comments about the phono stage. I was thinking it felt like it was “cleaning” the input and your comments seem to align with that. I haven’t been able to get over the psychological hurdle of knowing my analog signal is being digitized.
Have you considered doing a short video or series of videos about the best speaker/amp pairings you've come across at given price points? I know you mention this to a small extent in each video but maybe one that's a bit more detailed....? Would love to hear your thoughts. I think of you guys as some of the best and most honest reviewers to base my purchases on. Thanks for doing all that you do for our small community!
Thanks for watching and I appreciate the video idea. Maybe we'll do something like that in the future, though we have done a few videos about putting together systems at certain price points if you haven't already checked those out.
Because of the supply chain issues I had to move on from my visual amp crush, the SU-G700 MK2, and ended up buying the Marantz 40n… and I am very happy with how it turned out, especially with the built in streamer meaning I didn’t have to but another piece of equiptment. I. used that money to justify spending extra for the Kef KC-62 sub to got with my system (and Zu Omen Dirty Weekend 2’s). I absolutely love the warm and detailed sound that comes from the Marantz setup, and when I compare it to my bedroom setup (Peachtree Gan 1, blue sound node with Lii Audio F15 open baffles) that uses a similar all digital type of setup as the Technics (and one day will get a sub BTW) I prefer the Marantz more warm and musical sound, but appreciate the level of clarity and detail I get from the Gan 1. But I feel like the Marantz 40n setup punches way above it’s weight class and is so easy to listen to for hours because of how warm it sounds. Thank you for reviews, when you do the comparison vs. the Marantz 40n make me feel like I made the right decision!
This and Q Acoustics Concept 500s is a magical combination too. Just couldn't justify the R1000. It's amazing but that's an eye watering price. Might revisit in a few years if /when they release an update.
I think I've not heard you use the words Palpable and Rife before so it must be very impressive! Ironically when listening on an almost 30 year old Technics SA-GX505 AV receiver speaks volumes on reliability and excellent sound quality! Kristi would love the display with a built-in eq and spectrum analyzer to be sure! Thank you 😊
I purchased my PS Audio GCC 250 when it was first introduced (~ 15 years ago) hoping to simplify my audio system, but my main audio listening room is too huge, BUT, it works great in my TV system. Probably 80-90% of all music lovers could live happily ever after with the Technics Mk II and the matching CD player
I’ve currently have my MK2 in silver and had previously owned a MK1 which I could only find in black, so I returned it over the color. Connected to my Tekton DIs I’d say there is a noticeable sonic difference. I felt like the Bass is a bit more prominent and punchy in the MK2. However I felt that my old MK1 had a wider sound stage and was a little more enveloping. The MK2 still does enough of the magic for me and I still think it’s one of the best looking integrateds ever. I love the amp and your review as well. May have try out some Concept 50s though.
Hello Andrew and Kristi! Hope you are well, love the review as always, it's a bit hard finding Technics equipment with Eu shipping and unfortunately no representation in my Country Cyprus yet. Would love to see them expand again.
This was a great review, y'all really covered a lot of ground with this one..loved all the opinions and comparison's. The back n forth between the 2 of you is what makes your channel a little more special than the others for me. Great content in this one....and nothing wrong with a bougie woman, they tend to keep it classy 😉
Outstanding review, as always. Just the review I was hoping you would do. Saw your mk1 review and was hoping for a mk2 review. May buy it today. Almost done with my XLS Encores, so I'll see what their like with that setup and a couple of subs. Thanks again Kristi and Andrew!
I got SU-R1000 and Technics SL-1210GAE 55th Anniversary Limited Edition so happy with it, and with the Technics Grand Class SB-G90M2 speakers its perfect
Good day. I think Technics is a great amp only if your goal is strictly for music listening. I wasn’t surprised by the slight upgrade. The only time I can really remember a huge change was with the SL1209 turntable. There was a big difference between the original SL 1200 and the SL 1200 MK II. After that, each iteration got slight improvements. However, if you step up to the GR line there is a huge difference and price to boot. I guess it’s the same here. Great review but choice my would be the Marantz because of their “ house” sound.
Very happy I got this amp and do love it. I love the point you made about the cosmetics of the product, it is audio furniture. Don’t laugh but the “knob feel” is off the charts with this amp!
Thank you for the review. How would it compare with the Marantz model 40n in terms of taking only sound into consideration since you have reviewed both ? Thank you
That amp looks so sexy! It's very hard to compare only sound when you're going to be looking at that. Couple it with some beautiful speakers and it could actually improve your living space.
Hi there, I do enjoy your videos a lot and very helpful. I have a question, since you have more resources, have you or would you be able to match Klipsch RP-8000 F with Technics SU-G700? I would like to know if two complement each other both in power and quality. Thanks!
Yessssss...time for my Sunday morning coffee and the Andrew & Kristi show! But Andrew help me out here, how is the signal into the bad boy 'converted' without a DAC? So is this PCM and Geno Engine an new type of thing ...that's a somehow not a DAC? My mind is melted.. BTW, Another channel turned me onto Lady Blackbird and she is a revelation !
Very nice thank you, my first avr was a Technics in the 90s...so what is the difference between the perfect sound in the M33 that was not enjoyable and the perfect digital sound during vinyl playback in the 700...I'd be curious to know. It's always good to be patient, I think I could fall in love with the new Hifi Rose RS520, hdmi and you can even connect a cdrom drive to rip your cds and of course that huge touchscreen...I would still love that Technics even if my first Technics had lots of static in the volume knob and it was hard to get rid of but considering I love music from the 60s more, it's probably too clean for many albums, thank you again for this review!
I've always been a Marantz fan but cosmetically the Technics would have to be my personal choice. I'm glad a local audio store has both so I can give them a listen. Great review as always.
Also- Would never want streaming or Bluetooth in amp at this level. Definitely want to do that separately. What would be nice is an input for external DACs because otherwise it’s slightly hamstrung for upgrades unless you are keen on AD then DA and AD again 😒 and if I were to guess, I would think the two weakest links in this amp would be the WPC and the DAC (former isn’t an issue in my use cases, latter not an issue but would like the option). Obv my preferred option is likely impossible or at least ridiculous for the architecture so Technics might want to make the mk 3 DAC knock DA conversion out of the park. Add a crazy next level DAC in exchange for the internal phono stage and they might have more than a fringe product on their hands
Hi Andrew! I love your reviews. I would like to know if you had chance to test the Advance Paris A10 Classic and Magnat MA 900 amplifiers which both are designed with tubes preamp.
Brilliant video, very entertaining. Loved all the comparisons as usual, i think it allows all to get a real sense of the different options. It’s great that the right speakers paired with 700 mk2 can give the higher amp a run for it’s money.
Hey Andrew and Kristi! Great channel 👏🏼 I’m new to hi-fi and cannot wait for your take on the Arcam sa30. I trust your views on av products and the way they are delivered in lay terms that we can all understand! I recently purchased the sa30 and focal aria 926 speakers- in my inexperienced view- both fantastic! Still haven’t set up Dirac but I’d love to hear you guys speak about it. I know the sa30 isn’t the best stylistically, but it is a powerhouse and has many features with a great sound. Regards
Kristi I agree with you on the aesthetics. Honestly I'm big on looks too and we align on that. Real talk: that's why I got a Parasound Hint, it's one of the nicest looking integrated amps lmao
I have this amp, may be the final amp I need, I have a tube amp when the tube bug bites. Completely agree with the review and the sound is perfect for my needs. Would just add I do not have both speakers equidistance from the amp and my listening position (why would you not sit next to the beautiful meters :-) ) and LAPC compensates for that which is great.
Good review! I was lucky to get a mk1 on sale, when the mk2 came out. I absolutely love it, and it pairs well with my high sensitivity 8” Seas full-range (“hot-rodded” Pioneer AS-R500) and my Def-Tech D11’s. One thing that is never mentioned in any reviews I’ve seen/read, is the fact that the VU-meters are connected directly to the main outputs, and thus they are not active when listening over the headphone-section (which is pretty good as well, and should be mentioned!)
$2700 for no AirPlay, Bluetooth, HDMI? Very good looking and sounding for sure, but the missing features in 2022 is a missed opportunity for Technics. 😢
As someone who loves my original SU-G700, I felt my cynical side come through with the mk2. It just feels like a rehash so they could cut costs by using the same components across two product lines and stick a few hundred quid on to make a bit more cash… Love my Mk1 with KEF LS50 Metas though!
On the HDMI thing. Totally speculating here, but could it be that the DA in the Technics uses a memory buffer to combat jitter and more. If so then that buffer ads a short delay to the sound its feed, that could mean a HDMI input would be useless as audio would not be in sync with the video source.
It is possible I guess but I highly doubt that's the reason for the omission of HDMI. Using the optical while watching movies/TV everything is in sync with no delays. My hunch says the lack of HDMI is purely a cost saving decision.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews If there is no sync issue using another input then my theory is 100% out the window. In that case I guess for some reason HDMI just isn't on their radar, as the cost saving must be tiny - unless of course their internal design somehow don't allow for one more connection, so adding HDMI would require them to do substantial redesign. Maybe they only think audio in form of music and not video. PS. Thanks for another good review. Even though I'm currently not really looking for much gear I find my self being a regular viewer, then again I also read Stereophile 🙂
Any Emotiva products coming for review ? I have a all Emotiva speaker 7.2.2 system with pioneer lx305 as the AVR . Would love to hear a review of B2+ or any other Emotiva speaker review by yourself . Enjoy your reviews tremendously.
Hi Andrew.. could you pls tell me what was the speaker cable you used with the Technics and Concept 50 combination .. Also did you use the standard power cable that came with the amp ? Did you plug the amp directly to the wall or was it through any power conditioner ? I have the Technics and planning on getting the concept 50 .. wanted to know the remainder of the details to ensure I get the best sound too .. thanks.
All good questions! High quality cables make a HUGE difference in such components. I stopped buying stupid expensive magazine darlings. I now shop at Ali-Express (High Fi- DIY store. I highly recommend Nordost knockoff Odin II GOLD
Great review, grew up listening to sounds on my old man’s Technics set up. The way the review went… excluding the HDMI faux, for the straight up music listener, I get the feeling you guys may lean toward the Technics may be final word for amps in this price range for 2022??
Didn't know anything about this amp sooooo - after this review I'd sure like to learn more. Now, you mentioned Arcam and their amps really intrigue me (the G Class models). Arcam would do well to get their amps out to the (pro) reviewers like yourself.
What would be for you the best association (TECHNICS SU G700 MK2 AMP) with bookshelf speakers high priced or not (closed charge) for a little listening room (best sounds without resonance troubles)! ...thanx in advance
I bought this amp great looking and great sounding when it worked, kept shutting off on me gave me a code. Technics couldn't fix it so had to go back. It's a shame because I really liked it. Bought a yamaha as1200 really nice as well but I do think the technics has a nicer sound.
You can use a NODE with the Technics (we did). I recommend using one this way. Use the node as a digital source. Inside the Node App set the volume to fixed. Connect it to the Technics using an optical or coaxial cable. Control the volume on the Technics.
If this converts everything to PWM why pair a SACD player with it? Their own SACD player doesn't convert DSD to PCM prior do the analogue output. If I use this player with this amp everything will be amplified as PCM effectively rendering the SACD/DSD format inconsequential. Am I missing something?
Hey, little advice, do you think this Technics SU G700 MK2 or Yamaha A-S1200 would be better choice for my JBL L82 speakers? I currently have Audiolab 6000A and I wonder if its even worth the upgrade (I hope it is tho), thanks. :)
It was the review you had on the R 1000 that sent me down the road to purchase it and swapping out my M8xi. I am still happy I made that choice. The R 1000 It is a great product.
Dear Andrew and Kristi, maybe the SU GX70 answers the HDMI question? I would love to know what you think of the GX70.? also how much of the ganfet tech is in the GX70?. and by the way, I remember the first G700 review .. only 3 years and you got 300k+ subscribers.. not even sure if you read comments of old videos.. anyway, regards
Hi, I am considering buying this amp but would like to know if it can power my KEF LS50META which demand a lot of juice (85db) to deliver the incredible sound they offer. Would it be a good match?
The Rotel 1592MKII definitely has more power, and that is going to potentially be heard most in the low-low bass notes (provided your speakers can play those notes). From a functional standpoint, both amps offer much of the same features so it's a bit of a wash there. If you need more power for really difficult to drive speakers, or you simply like to listen at loud volumes on difficult to drive speakers then the Rotel may make more sense, but sonically, there is an element of finesse and ease to the Technics that is hard to quantify, which you can hear in our voices at the end. I personally prefer the Technics, but could make a case for either.
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Thanks Andrew for the review
I don't know what it sounds like but holy god that thing is beautiful....
Technics just has a special place in our 80s Hifi hearts , its the systems we grew up wanting. Probably will buy one even if I regulate it to my garage amp, just cause.
Yup, as someone born in 67, I used to circle around local Technics/Panasonic shop, jaw half dropped, salivating and 'wanting'. I could spend minutes and minutes being mesmerized and hypnotized with the moving needles on their power and integrated amps.
Still in love with my SU-G700v1 (bought on your recommendation). So thrilled to hear that I don't have to put it on the curb for bulk pick-up! Paired with my Forte IV it is magic often times. Props to Geno Engine, whatever you are!
Morning everyone! Got to say, I'm proud of this review (and the next few reviews we have coming up. October is going to be 🔥) Thanks for tuning in!
Not so fast, Robinson. Let's let the viewers be the judge of how proud you should feel.
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I’m proud of you both
@@sgulasch Aww that's so nice of you to say!
When yall joke about skipping to Kristi part, it's true! This channel is the best of the hi fi review channels, because the level of production is cinema-like level, but also no one has a Kristi! I watch yall videos all the way through, but I'll admit, I'm like, "let's hear what Kristi thinks." To me its the best and most unique part of the videos. I bet she's a ton of fun to be around and she adds a lot of value to the channel!
Thank you, Charles!
I'm glad to see reviewers raise the standard for what to expect for your hard earned money! After all, sound doesn't happen at all if you are unable to connect your amp to any one of the many sources that are now available & may be preferable to you at some point. It is a different universe than the one that created the minimalist approach many of my generation had reason to value or do value.
So true! Appreciate you watching!
I restored my dad’s Technics SA-5550 over the pandemic, so I have a fondness (bias) for Technics amps. This channel and that amp have rekindled my love of 2-channel stereo. Thank you Andrew and Kristi so much for your hard work, I adore your channel/videos.
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That receiver is a classic, good call restoring it! Thanks so much for your kind words!
It’s no question that you have improved so much with your reviews over three years but I have to admit, I miss the emotion that Andrew use to share with older reviews. Anyway, I can’t wait to get this amp in my house. I’ve been eyeing it for years and it is time to make it happen. Thanks 🙏 ❤
Nice review and it's great seeing Technics get more exposure for their amplifiers since they really deserve it. I'm super happy with my SU-R1000.
This amp together with the Wharfdale Linton's are on my wishlist for next year. Should look and sound great with the rest of the silver and wood vintage gear. Especially with the Linton's regularly coming up second hand for €750 with the stands. The Mk1 Technics was available last month for as little as €1695 but you're right, they seem to be sold out everywhere.
I'm using a low-powered mini-pc as my media center and streamer so the USB in is required.
One of the best looking audio equipment, so handsome.
Brings back happy memories of when I first started enjoying music, and talked my parents into getting our first CD player 25 years ago.
One of the best looking for sure!
Got the SUG700MkII and the SL1200G for myself based purely off your recommendation Andrew loved your older reviews. Absolutely love it! Will hold onto it for the long haul! Amazing setup! Thanks Mate.
I agree with Kristi on HDMI. The only products that have an excuse for not having one today are pure analog setups.
I bought one SU-G700 MK2 on eBay some months ago. The seller asked a base price that was much less than half the price for it new and proved that the amplifier was acquired 10 days before he put it on auction. Everyone thought it was a "brick" (mee too) and I was the only one to offer the base price and got it. It was a brick, in the sense that one of the Line 2 analog inputs was not working at all, no sound (shame on the seller) but... I'm an electronics guy so got the maintenance manual (that simply says: "if you have this problem swap that board, if you have that problem swap the other board"), checked the main board with all those little smd components, almost ready to swap the Burr Brown adc when my eye fell on the input connector... and... I discovered that when the connector was pressed on the board, during manufacturing, the central pin did not go through the hole in the board and was everted (shame on Technics Q.C.). The easiest repair of my life, with the added bonus that I didn't have to change any component. So I became the happy owner of a, perfectly functional, like new 700MK2 at a low price.
This long preamble to say just one thing I don't like about this amp. The USB input is not compatible with Linux; everytime there's a sampling change from one song to the other, you have to push play again on your device to play the song. That means no Volumio/RuneAudio/Moode/whatever on Raspberry Pi without a coax piggy board. That's what I hate most about the Technics.
Happy user of a SU g 700 1st generation: I still love it a lot after 2 years and I will keep it for a long time
im considering this amp on looks alone. this has to be one of the best amps i have ever seen.
Kristi, oh Kristi! You SHINE in your contributions. It's been a while since I've commented, but had to here. I cannot believe its been that long since I've been watching and subscribed to this channel from the start. Andrew, you're going to have to break your wife's segment off into another channel as sort of a "point/counter point thing! I've been here through Andrew's cathartic openness about his depression episodes, your engagement, marriage and new home build. You both work so well together, even in your respectful disagreements. Now in the market to upgrade my Harmon Kardon vintage 330A, you might have me sold on the MK1! Carry on you two! PLEASE DO!
I have the Mk 1 and love it. No hdmi isn’t a problem for me as I have it in my living room which doesn’t have a tv. Nice to know I’m not missing out on anything major with the Mk 2. Great review, guys!
I just connect it to the Sl G700 for network streaming, SACD etc. I don't care that it doesn't have HDMI because I don't use it for TV. If I did, I'd be happy with optical.
These amps look soooooooo good. A return to the Art Piece. I'd buy one just to have it on the shelf. Some people buy Picasso. To me, audio gear can be beautiful. And these are right up there with the best I've seen.
Mr. Robinson, I hope you read this! Thank you very much!
I also posted on your Technics SU-G700MK1 review. I felt it best to also share here for folks wondering how a SU-G700MK2 would push Polk R700's since I have both connected, and that was my biggest question going into this project at home. I sincerely hope that's OK. Thank you.
I bought the Technics SU-G700M2 two channel amp after watching your video(s) and paired with new Polk R700's (also reviewed by you). Then I connected up my near-mint Vintage Technics SL-QL1 Linear Tracking turntable, added in a new OEM (vintage) Audio Technica cart with frequency response of 5-35,000 Hz. Holy Cow! WOW! Dang! Everything you said about both this amp and these speakers speaks the truth, as you would say, "full stop."
I have friends come over that listen for hours and say how quiet, how nuanced, how silky smooth the sound is...and as you pointed out, neutral. I will say, I have never been a fan of neutral myself at all, until now. I actually get all giddy waiting to play a new piece of vinyl...how absolutely controlled, yet dynamic the sound is. Never harsh, never brash, never boomy. Just...sounds...amazing. It's that good. At least for me and my setup. I play a variety of music and this system just owns it. I do customize the tone at times of course because, well that's my taste.
Does this paring call out bad pressings/recordings on records. Oh yeah, for sure. But the flip side is if you have a nice piece of vinyl (recorded from the master tapes)...holy effin cow. I mean...it goes to another level of fidelity, clarity and also, silence!
For those wondering if the Technics SU-G700M2 can push these R700 speakers (which was my biggest concern), the answer is a non-hesitant YES! Not even remotely an issue. Keep in mind how large a room you wish to push these through, as with any setup. I also ran the LAPC again after a 200 hour break in and the sound change was noticeable, yet subtle, and it was better! I am very happy. :) Any questions, feel free to ask folks...
I feel excactly the same way ... so clear ... people come by and listen to vinyl on my system and are blown away. But the vinyl pressing makes a HUGE difference. I have mine paired with Sonus Faber SonettoIIs and a REL Tx7 Sub ... (I bought the Sonettos for the boost in the mid to high, as I am getting older and those frequencies are starting to be a bit harder to hear) But I have hooked a few pairs of speakers to it and it had driven anything I have hooked up after LAPC
I currently own this amp and have found the following. Pairs exceptionally well with the LS50 meta’s and kc62 sub. This is the third amp I have tried with them and this combo is night and day better than the others. I also have a pair of Cornwall 4’s and I didn’t find that pairing quite as good. I do have a problem with the amp shutting off periodically. I can’t imagine it is overheating as it runs quite cool. interesting comments about the phono stage. I was thinking it felt like it was “cleaning” the input and your comments seem to align with that. I haven’t been able to get over the psychological hurdle of knowing my analog signal is being digitized.
Andrew, your positive review of the original Technics caused me to purchase the latest Mk2 version. I love and absolutely love it. Thank you, Andrew!
You bought wisely, enjoy!
That's awesome. What speakers are you pairing with it?
Have you considered doing a short video or series of videos about the best speaker/amp pairings you've come across at given price points? I know you mention this to a small extent in each video but maybe one that's a bit more detailed....? Would love to hear your thoughts. I think of you guys as some of the best and most honest reviewers to base my purchases on. Thanks for doing all that you do for our small community!
Thanks for watching and I appreciate the video idea. Maybe we'll do something like that in the future, though we have done a few videos about putting together systems at certain price points if you haven't already checked those out.
That is probably the best looking piece of kit available at the moment, such a good looking machine.
We agree!
The wait is over 🎉 and what a relief. Thanks a lot Andrew & Christi. I always enjoy your reviews and look forward to the next one.
Hope it was worth it.
My wife enjoys Christi’s take a lot and as you can probably guess had a strong part in us getting the mkI, « it’s either this one or none at all ».
@@adrianz5139 😍
Because of the supply chain issues I had to move on from my visual amp crush, the SU-G700 MK2, and ended up buying the Marantz 40n… and I am very happy with how it turned out, especially with the built in streamer meaning I didn’t have to but another piece of equiptment. I. used that money to justify spending extra for the Kef KC-62 sub to got with my system (and Zu Omen Dirty Weekend 2’s). I absolutely love the warm and detailed sound that comes from the Marantz setup, and when I compare it to my bedroom setup (Peachtree Gan 1, blue sound node with Lii Audio F15 open baffles) that uses a similar all digital type of setup as the Technics (and one day will get a sub BTW) I prefer the Marantz more warm and musical sound, but appreciate the level of clarity and detail I get from the Gan 1. But I feel like the Marantz 40n setup punches way above it’s weight class and is so easy to listen to for hours because of how warm it sounds. Thank you for reviews, when you do the comparison vs. the Marantz 40n make me feel like I made the right decision!
I personally think you have a great product but really the only one that matters is you! Thanks for watching.
The Technics Su series are sort of like Grand Seiko watches and their Springdrive. Very unique and innovative and exquisitely finished.
Similar analogy I'd apply to Yamaha's high end hi-fi. I am fan of both brands and own extensive amount of gear from both.
Not having hdmi arc is inexcusable today. But dang, I still want this
Can relate.
This and Q Acoustics Concept 500s is a magical combination too. Just couldn't justify the R1000. It's amazing but that's an eye watering price. Might revisit in a few years if /when they release an update.
Happy Sunday guys it does look awesome and money aside it would give u many years of listening enjoyment so overall its a winner ..
My dad was an audio head in the 70s with technics n I love the front of theses amps the dials there the same as my dad's old ones
I think I've not heard you use the words Palpable and Rife before so it must be very impressive! Ironically when listening on an almost 30 year old Technics SA-GX505 AV receiver speaks volumes on reliability and excellent sound quality! Kristi would love the display with a built-in eq and spectrum analyzer to be sure! Thank you 😊
I’m still loving my 30 year old SU-G50 I bought myself brand new for my college graduation present. Paired with Sonus Faber Sonetto 3’s
I purchased my PS Audio GCC 250 when it was first introduced (~ 15 years ago) hoping to simplify my audio system, but my main audio listening room is too huge, BUT, it works great in my TV system. Probably 80-90% of all music lovers could live happily ever after with the Technics Mk II and the matching CD player
I have the MK1 hooked up to the Hifi Rose RS250 for almost 1 year now. Still love it.
I’ve currently have my MK2 in silver and had previously owned a MK1 which I could only find in black, so I returned it over the color. Connected to my Tekton DIs I’d say there is a noticeable sonic difference. I felt like the Bass is a bit more prominent and punchy in the MK2. However I felt that my old MK1 had a wider sound stage and was a little more enveloping. The MK2 still does enough of the magic for me and I still think it’s one of the best looking integrateds ever. I love the amp and your review as well. May have try out some Concept 50s though.
Great review. It's hard to believe there's a significant segment of vinyl enthusiasts that want their records to sound more like CDs . . .
Yeah that's what I was curious to find out too, why was the sound on the M33 too perfect but not on this one...
Just bought this amp yesterday... Love it! Ive had a lot of more expensive integrated and separate amp but this one is making me smile big time!
Enjoy!
@EnzoTV23 how do you like it so far?
I like when you mention the music you listen to. I never heard of Lady Blackbird before. She has a haunting voice! Thanks for the introduction!
Hello Andrew and Kristi! Hope you are well, love the review as always, it's a bit hard finding Technics equipment with Eu shipping and unfortunately no representation in my Country Cyprus yet. Would love to see them expand again.
It's not just Cyprus, Technics-anything (apart from maybe their turntables) are elusive at best.
This was a great review, y'all really covered a lot of ground with this one..loved all the opinions and comparison's. The back n forth between the 2 of you is what makes your channel a little more special than the others for me. Great content in this one....and nothing wrong with a bougie woman, they tend to keep it classy 😉
I'm walking around my room when listening to Andrew. When Kristi speaks, I sit down and listen.
She has that effect.
Outstanding review, as always. Just the review I was hoping you would do. Saw your mk1 review and was hoping for a mk2 review. May buy it today. Almost done with my XLS Encores, so I'll see what their like with that setup and a couple of subs. Thanks again Kristi and Andrew!
Hi Andrew and thanks for your review and your work.
What do you think of:
ARCAM SA30 vs TECHNICS SU G700 M2 ??
I don't need HDMI.
Thanks in advance.
I got SU-R1000 and Technics SL-1210GAE 55th Anniversary Limited Edition so happy with it, and with the Technics Grand Class SB-G90M2 speakers its perfect
The GU700 or the Yamaha S1200?? Ready go! I’m in need of one!
Another great episode. The B&W pairing must be fantastic. Great content.
Good day. I think Technics is a great amp only if your goal is strictly for music listening. I wasn’t surprised by the slight upgrade. The only time I can really remember a huge change was with the SL1209 turntable. There was a big difference between the original SL 1200 and the SL 1200 MK II. After that, each iteration got slight improvements. However, if you step up to the GR line there is a huge difference and price to boot. I guess it’s the same here. Great review but choice my would be the Marantz because of their “ house” sound.
Very happy I got this amp and do love it. I love the point you made about the cosmetics of the product, it is audio furniture. Don’t laugh but the “knob feel” is off the charts with this amp!
Man this the review I've been waiting for!
Hope it was worth the wait!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews absolutely was worth it. Another banger from yall.
Thank you for the review. How would it compare with the Marantz model 40n in terms of taking only sound into consideration since you have reviewed both ? Thank you
I’m trying to find this comparison.. Andrew, you’ve heard both.. can you please let us know your thoughts?
That amp looks so sexy! It's very hard to compare only sound when you're going to be looking at that. Couple it with some beautiful speakers and it could actually improve your living space.
Hi there, I do enjoy your videos a lot and very helpful. I have a question, since you have more resources, have you or would you be able to match Klipsch RP-8000 F with Technics SU-G700? I would like to know if two complement each other both in power and quality. Thanks!
Yessssss...time for my Sunday morning coffee and the Andrew & Kristi show!
But Andrew help me out here, how is the signal into the bad boy 'converted' without a DAC? So is this PCM and Geno Engine an new type of thing ...that's a somehow not a DAC? My mind is melted..
BTW, Another channel turned me onto Lady Blackbird and she is a revelation !
Let's do this! Thanks for tuning in!
Very nice thank you, my first avr was a Technics in the 90s...so what is the difference between the perfect sound in the M33 that was not enjoyable and the perfect digital sound during vinyl playback in the 700...I'd be curious to know.
It's always good to be patient, I think I could fall in love with the new Hifi Rose RS520, hdmi and you can even connect a cdrom drive to rip your cds and of course that huge touchscreen...I would still love that Technics even if my first Technics had lots of static in the volume knob and it was hard to get rid of but considering I love music from the 60s more, it's probably too clean for many albums, thank you again for this review!
I think I would save up a bit longer for the Technics, bypassing the Audiolab, because dancing needles. I am sucker for those dancing needles.
I would love to have one of these Technics amps in my house...
I've always been a Marantz fan but cosmetically the Technics would have to be my personal choice. I'm glad a local audio store has both so I can give them a listen. Great review as always.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Also-
Would never want streaming or Bluetooth in amp at this level. Definitely want to do that separately.
What would be nice is an input for external DACs because otherwise it’s slightly hamstrung for upgrades unless you are keen on AD then DA and AD again 😒 and if I were to guess, I would think the two weakest links in this amp would be the WPC and the DAC (former isn’t an issue in my use cases, latter not an issue but would like the option). Obv my preferred option is likely impossible or at least ridiculous for the architecture so Technics might want to make the mk 3 DAC knock DA conversion out of the park. Add a crazy next level DAC in exchange for the internal phono stage and they might have more than a fringe product on their hands
how does the Mk 2 compare to the Rotel RA1592 Mk ll?thanks
Just finally watched this...fantastic review guys. Love how you compare and give us some real honest opinions. It's why we are here! Well done.
Hi Andrew! I love your reviews. I would like to know if you had chance to test the Advance Paris A10 Classic and Magnat MA 900 amplifiers which both are designed with tubes preamp.
Brilliant video, very entertaining. Loved all the comparisons as usual, i think it allows all to get a real sense of the different options. It’s great that the right speakers paired with 700 mk2 can give the higher amp a run for it’s money.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What speaker cables do you recommend for this Amplifier with B&W 702 S2? I am evaluating Audioquest but not sure what series.
Before coming to America, I grew up with Panasonic everything. I love the brand. R1000 + BW, endgame?
If you are into B&W's sound, most definitely.
Amazing review as always buddy.
Be sure to watch to the very end.
You must live in the future, Felix! I haven't gotten through the pre-roll ads yet. 🤣
@@KristiWright 😂
Hey Andrew and Kristi! Great channel 👏🏼
I’m new to hi-fi and cannot wait for your take on the Arcam sa30. I trust your views on av products and the way they are delivered in lay terms that we can all understand!
I recently purchased the sa30 and focal aria 926 speakers- in my inexperienced view- both fantastic!
Still haven’t set up Dirac but I’d love to hear you guys speak about it. I know the sa30 isn’t the best stylistically, but it is a powerhouse and has many features with a great sound.
Regards
Would love to see a JBL SA750 review. Especially as you’re having trouble getting hold of an Arcam SA30
same parent company so going to have similar issues getting gear
@@KristiWright ah well! Loving your work as always!
Kristi I agree with you on the aesthetics. Honestly I'm big on looks too and we align on that.
Real talk: that's why I got a Parasound Hint, it's one of the nicest looking integrated amps lmao
As usual a beautifully done review
Thank you so much 😊
Hi, would it give full MQA quality if I dgitally connect a - say - bluesound node?
I have this amp, may be the final amp I need, I have a tube amp when the tube bug bites. Completely agree with the review and the sound is perfect for my needs. Would just add I do not have both speakers equidistance from the amp and my listening position (why would you not sit next to the beautiful meters :-) ) and LAPC compensates for that which is great.
Hi, I really enjoy the reviews. My biggest compliant of all modern integrated amps are that they don't include pre-out, main--in connections.
Good review! I was lucky to get a mk1 on sale, when the mk2 came out. I absolutely love it, and it pairs well with my high sensitivity 8” Seas full-range (“hot-rodded” Pioneer AS-R500) and my Def-Tech D11’s. One thing that is never mentioned in any reviews I’ve seen/read, is the fact that the VU-meters are connected directly to the main outputs, and thus they are not active when listening over the headphone-section (which is pretty good as well, and should be mentioned!)
$2700 for no AirPlay, Bluetooth, HDMI? Very good looking and sounding for sure, but the missing features in 2022 is a missed opportunity for Technics. 😢
Agreed!
As someone who loves my original SU-G700, I felt my cynical side come through with the mk2. It just feels like a rehash so they could cut costs by using the same components across two product lines and stick a few hundred quid on to make a bit more cash…
Love my Mk1 with KEF LS50 Metas though!
Not gonna lie, I feel similarly to you Philip.
On the HDMI thing.
Totally speculating here, but could it be that the DA in the Technics uses a memory buffer to combat jitter and more. If so then that buffer ads a short delay to the sound its feed, that could mean a HDMI input would be useless as audio would not be in sync with the video source.
It is possible I guess but I highly doubt that's the reason for the omission of HDMI. Using the optical while watching movies/TV everything is in sync with no delays. My hunch says the lack of HDMI is purely a cost saving decision.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews If there is no sync issue using another input then my theory is 100% out the window.
In that case I guess for some reason HDMI just isn't on their radar, as the cost saving must be tiny - unless of course their internal design somehow don't allow for one more connection, so adding HDMI would require them to do substantial redesign. Maybe they only think audio in form of music and not video.
PS. Thanks for another good review. Even though I'm currently not really looking for much gear I find my self being a regular viewer, then again I also read Stereophile 🙂
Have you compared it to Yamaha AS1200, and they drive a set of Dynaudio (4 ohms speaker)?
Any Emotiva products coming for review ? I have a all Emotiva speaker 7.2.2 system with pioneer lx305 as the AVR . Would love to hear a review of B2+ or any other Emotiva speaker review by yourself . Enjoy your reviews tremendously.
Hi Andrew.. could you pls tell me what was the speaker cable you used with the Technics and Concept 50 combination .. Also did you use the standard power cable that came with the amp ? Did you plug the amp directly to the wall or was it through any power conditioner ? I have the Technics and planning on getting the concept 50 .. wanted to know the remainder of the details to ensure I get the best sound too .. thanks.
All good questions! High quality cables make a HUGE difference in such components. I stopped buying stupid expensive magazine darlings. I now shop at Ali-Express (High Fi- DIY store. I highly recommend Nordost knockoff Odin II GOLD
Really enjoyed the conversation at the end of this one. Quite a bit of valuable information shared here.
Technics use to be very popular back in the day.
Great review, grew up listening to sounds on my old man’s Technics set up. The way the review went… excluding the HDMI faux, for the straight up music listener, I get the feeling you guys may lean toward the Technics may be final word for amps in this price range for 2022??
Didn't know anything about this amp sooooo - after this review I'd sure like to learn more. Now, you
mentioned Arcam and their amps really intrigue me (the G Class models). Arcam would do well to get
their amps out to the (pro) reviewers like yourself.
Audiophiles always make me want to (quoting Warren Zevon), “Get a good running start and hurl myself at the wall”
Finally! The review I was waiting for! Thanks guys! 🎉
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I did! As always guys, thank you very much for your great content. Definitely my favorite RUclipsrs.
What would be for you the best association (TECHNICS SU G700 MK2 AMP) with bookshelf speakers high priced or not (closed charge) for a little listening room (best sounds without resonance troubles)! ...thanx in advance
I bought this amp great looking and great sounding when it worked, kept shutting off on me gave me a code. Technics couldn't fix it so had to go back. It's a shame because I really liked it. Bought a yamaha as1200 really nice as well but I do think the technics has a nicer sound.
Awesome review. I want one.
Quick Q: would it be possible to use the Technics as a power amp with the NODE as HDMI-enabled preamp?
You can use a NODE with the Technics (we did). I recommend using one this way. Use the node as a digital source. Inside the Node App set the volume to fixed. Connect it to the Technics using an optical or coaxial cable. Control the volume on the Technics.
Thanks @@andrewrobinsonreviews!
If this converts everything to PWM why pair a SACD player with it? Their own SACD player doesn't convert DSD to PCM prior do the analogue output. If I use this player with this amp everything will be amplified as PCM effectively rendering the SACD/DSD format inconsequential. Am I missing something?
I’m glad you guys spreading the message the heading message that you got sprayed in that I love it
Hey, little advice, do you think this Technics SU G700 MK2 or Yamaha A-S1200 would be better choice for my JBL L82 speakers? I currently have Audiolab 6000A and I wonder if its even worth the upgrade (I hope it is tho), thanks. :)
I would like to know this also. I am very interested in the sonic differences between the all analog A-S1200 and all digital SU G700 MK2.
Great review! Sonic differences with audiolab 9000a? Which one would you choose to drive B&W speakers?
It was the review you had on the R 1000 that sent me down the road to purchase it and swapping out my M8xi. I am still happy I made that choice. The R 1000 It is a great product.
Glad to hear you're enjoying the R1000, it's a magical piece for sure!
I absolutely love my 30 year old Technics integrated amp paired with my Sonus Faber Sonetto 3’s. I’d describe it as silky smooth.
Dear Andrew and Kristi, maybe the SU GX70 answers the HDMI question? I would love to know what you think of the GX70.? also how much of the ganfet tech is in the GX70?. and by the way, I remember the first G700 review .. only 3 years and you got 300k+ subscribers.. not even sure if you read comments of old videos.. anyway, regards
Hi,
I am considering buying this amp but would like to know if it can power my KEF LS50META which demand a lot of juice (85db) to deliver the incredible sound they offer. Would it be a good match?
One big one in the same price class yall left out is the rotel 1592 and yall loved the 1592! Rotel or g700?
The Rotel 1592MKII definitely has more power, and that is going to potentially be heard most in the low-low bass notes (provided your speakers can play those notes). From a functional standpoint, both amps offer much of the same features so it's a bit of a wash there. If you need more power for really difficult to drive speakers, or you simply like to listen at loud volumes on difficult to drive speakers then the Rotel may make more sense, but sonically, there is an element of finesse and ease to the Technics that is hard to quantify, which you can hear in our voices at the end. I personally prefer the Technics, but could make a case for either.
After you mentioned Lady Blackbird I went and had a listen🤔....😮.....😍.....😁👍
So good!