Why Does God Kill Innocent People in the Old Testament?
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Why does God kill innocent people in the Old Testament but commands us not to do so? In doing so, does this not make God both a murderer and a hypocrite? Why does God kills and order His people to kill entire nations including babies and seemingly innocent people? Why does God kill is one of the questions that atheists will use to suggest that God is not good. This video gives 6 reasons why God kills innocent people in the Old Testament.
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Whew! This week's video is a very controversial subject. I'd love to hear your thoughts. The video is a little longer than normal but there was no way I could get this under 5 minutes. I hope you'll watch all the way through and provide your opinion!
THE BEAT by Allen Parr I'm glad to see someone else out here defending God's sovereignty! You did a good job, brother.
THE BEAT by Allen Parr So if somebody get killed by another person did God kill him ?
God can use good and evil, especially even the evil that we do, to bring about his sovereign plan. This includes murder. See Romans 8:28. Also the story of Jonah can really illustrate how God can work past and even use our faults and sins to bring about good things.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jonah+1
I have made a video response, will link below.
Great job, brother! That evil murderer is an evil murderer for a very good reason! You tell 'em!
I believe a lot of people having problem with this teaching not because God is unfair, it's because of the way humans look at death...
We tend to see death is the end of all things or something bad... To God I believe it's like saying going from one room of the house into another room of the house...
When a person graduates from high school for a lot of people this is the last time there will ever be a student in their life is this a bad thing or do they transition into adulthood???
Death is not the end of life it's just the beginning of forever...
Psalm 116:15
Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.
A great excuse to kill anyone for any reason.... how cold
That's true, it is only by passing away from this life that we can pass into eternity, whether that be Heaven or Hell.
Death is not the end of life but nobody has returned to refute that point.
@Tim Clark That's you. Some of us are old and believe in God. God isn't bull****
This has always confused me. Most churches just ignore this part of the bible but, questions like these can hurt your relationship with God which is the MOST important relationship!
Of course,church are more holy than a bible.
Thanks. This issue has confused me since childhood.
no one is innocent we are all guilty,and deserve death,
Imagine being God and having to order this. Im sure it’s not something he wants to do, but to preserve the ones that are Godly he has to take extreme mesures sometimes. But thanks be to God who has giving us our victory through our Lord Jesus Christ
WAYNE HILLIARD why?
Really there no such thing as innocent people tell him how come a baby not innocent a infant cant eat by themself cant speak cant walk and dont knownwhat is right or wrong and still infant is not innocent people come on have a commen sense
@@mohammadaliabdullah8933 the innocence here you are talking about is innocence in general .. he is talking about how humanity humanity has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God .. right from the time of Adam and Eve we all become sinners .. that’s why the Bible for our righteousness is like a filthy rag before our lord
I like how you quote scripture in all of your videos to back up your claims. I really find your videos helpful. God bless!
Yes i agree, we need to watch for that when considering false teachers, but even people who use scripture to back things up can be twisting them, it's a reason why studying for ourselves is important. Acts 17:11 "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
What the fuck ever. Nothing but bullshit.
@@sidepot why u here dog?
Jacob Brownfield I’m not your dog dickhead.
@@sidepot Why you here kitty?
Thank you for this video. I think that is a question that any of us who’ve been on the border of becoming a Christian have wondered. It’s taking me a long time to come to the understanding of why these things are allowed in the world. You make some really good points about why God kills - especially the first one, that we all die!I think the other thing that has been occurring to me about this topic and others in general about life is that after many decades here you start realizing there’s no rhyme and reason for a lot of it. And there’s a form of acceptance that you have to finally get to. And that comes from understanding that God has a vision that is out of our reach. The Utopia that the secular or new age wants it’s not realistic and kind of delusional. Most of us have been deceived by what the world and the humankind thanks is achievable by her own hand. If you really look around you’ll see that centuries have gone by and we still keep doing the same things to each other and ourselves. There is a plan, we’re not privy to all of it, and it makes us question why God seemingly kills innocent ones. And until you dig a little deeper you will “wonder” why instead of know why. I think that a lot of us are in denial of the underlying brutality of being on this planet, but if you stop being entertained and distracted you’ll begin see the truth and it makes it easier to understand.
Amen to that! Excellent response! :)
They are allowed because of Freewill,God can do to anyone or group of people what HE will.
Yes, we all will die. But this doesnt justify making the death of some so incedibly painful. Also, all those people that grew up somewhere in india are doomed if they grow up in another religion. They might even die before knowing that christianity is an option. And even if they hear the message, they have no reason to convert, since god doesnt bother to reveal himself, or even give hints of his existance. These poor people from different cultures are all going to endlesly suffer in hell. Thats not free will! God is either evil or unable to change this.
@@united_europe God can not be evil. There's no evil in him. It's not in his nature! God sends missionaries to the nations to spread the Gospel of Jesus and believe me, God is revealing himself through those who said Yes to his calling, and He is doing it with amazing miracles. You just need to be informed. I recommend you to look at Heidi Baker's ministry in Mozambique - Africa. And also, God Is Just. If someone didn't heard about the Lord, he will judge their lives with Justice! He doesn't wanna people to die in their sins and go to hell... He delights in Mercy.
@@facundogongora8222 Hmm, have you ever read Isaiah 45:7?
Or 2 Samuel 24:16, specifically...
Also, how would you like to live, under Deuteronomy 21:11, Judges 21:14, and Leviticus 25:46?
Or Exodus 21:20.
How far, would you like, to be, beaten, err, in the latter case?
And how much intervention, did the slave trade in past Europe - merit?
Or the Inquisition, say.
This helps so much! I’m currently still in the Old Testament and it’s been rough 😭
I appreciate this tons 💗
Jesus loves you
Hang in there. Keep looking for answers. I went through the same issue as you. I thought god was a moral monster but I sought answers and I found them.
Lol it’s rough for a reason which is not the reason you want to believe. Why not read the book the way it is and take it for what it is instead of making excuses for a GOD
@@raslynroyal1344 I’ve still kept up with my goal of reading the Bible everyday & after doing research along with it, it’s been an eye opener. So no, not “making excuses for God”, but I am getting a better understanding of Him, with greater appreciation.
If you actually take the time, seek Him wholeheartedly, then you could get to understand not only the Bible better, but also understand God better.
@@MissLettyLove your response at the end is very filler. What does that even mean? wholeheartedly ? So what have millions of Christians born into the religion have been doing this whole time but still struggling as well. You just said some feel good words at the end that I feel you don’t even know what it means honestly it’s such a generic thing to say. What do you mean get to know him better? If you just read the Bible like a book from genesis and revelation you’ll understand just who God is. He is exactly as you read in the paper. No interpretation. You’re just struggling with the truth of what you’re reading so yes you are making excuses by not acknowledging that. Anyway revelations is a nice chapter
Thank you for this video, I was filled with grief after reading the old testament - but through this video I was able to see God´s reasoning which helped me feel better. Thank you.
Same here. I've been a Christian for about 11 years and one day, I began to soak in this topic and was filled with grief for about 2 months. This video has been really helpful.
It's like you rejected other reasons and only except the one that you wanted to believe in. god is not real
God is Real he Created life, the Universe and Everything 🌌 God is coming soon, you must repent from your wicked ways
@@ariausOO god is not real
@@witachapinamk1507 To us he is. You believe what you want to believe, let us believe what we want to believe.
GOD I'm really trying, but I'm confused...
Let's just say everyone dies.
God's decision when people die so i would just accept what he wants. We don't belong here anyways.
You're supposed to be confused cause what he said makes no fucking sense. Thats your natural human logical brain telling you this is fucking ridiculous and outrageously wrong. He isn't real but they have made up excuses for every horrible thing their God has done to justify it.
@@rosiebruh3138 so whats the point of God making you live? Doesn't God knows everything? Why don't he just know it since on the beggining? And plus u feel the pain so it will be much better if u don't exist right? We all die anyways....
@@rosiebruh3138 So God created u just to kill u and feel pain? To suffer?
People and their comments have a real lack of spiritual understanding. Many prove by what they say, they just don't know the Lord. The natural unregenerated man is truly alienated from the life of God. He cannot understand. Continue your unbraiding of the scriptures my brother. You are very accurate in your explainations.
u no it all im sure ya man
Religious claims are rationally fiction, so what is there to know?
MyContext That can be said of all the scientific theories of the origin of mankind, including macroevolution and the big bang.
Samuel nice
@@trafficjon400 That is not the point
This is a question that I’ve struggled with personally but more so to answer when other people asked.
This definitely helped to put my own mind at ease and I think this would help answer the question in the future.
So thank you. Y’all be good! God bless!
The simple fact that god had pre knowledge of everything makes him responsible for the bad!
Ever see those elongated skulls that are missing their sutures every human has? Amalakites were of enormous stature. Now giants and elongated skulls are of two different hybrids
there is no god. there have been over 10,000 gods created by men. created by men is the problem. men created god not the other way around. also anyone who believes in god the odds of them finding the one true god out of 10,000 gods is very slim.
@@sarahoberling4436 you seen pictures on the internet. you've never seen any giants or skulls in real life. those could EASILY be created by men on earth just like god and religion was created by men on earth.
I have a brother which once told me he has problems believing in a God that ordered children killed. My response was that God had his reasons... that the entire society was wicked. You just gave me additional information I can use to answer such questions.
So, what is your opinion on the Nazis? Great aren't they? (sarcasm, and I emphasize sarcasm)
Oh, and wasn't it great how the church aided them too?
Also, do you have an English version of the Bible? If so, you would have been burned to death by a man called Thomas More, who was made a Saint by the Church.
Jesus is a loving God and Satan is trying to make people think otherwise
Pinz_ shut up always trying to blame shit on devil and praise god guess what stop worshipping like a sheep and live your life
@@delxsm do you believe in God?
Living Hope Society yes I do I’m agnostic but your fake ass Bible and religion keeps holding us back
@That One Guy What is the meaning agnostic? The truth for me is I do believe in a Higher Power but a lot of things in the Bible I personally disagree with. In 2016 I wrote in my Journal asking the MOST HIGH to change me and direct my path to what the ALMIGHTY CREATED me to be; so in 2017 I was Change I wasn’t looking for a change anymore because I stop praying or reading the Bible or going church. But the ALMIGHTY HIMSELF did. My life now is nothing that I could have anticipated. And no pastors or preachers couldn’t change me for all the years I’ve been going to church. But the INFINITE SPIRITUAL BEING did because it’s an inside job. I don’t consider myself anything but a daughter of the MOST HIGH.
@@LivingMyBestAlways Well the Most High of the Bible can't be the most high in your life since the bible says that Jesus is the only way to God. Agnostic means a person who doesn't believe in a God, they aren't religious but don't go as far as to say that God doesn't exist. They more believe that it can't be proven.
I really appreciate that you did that video. In an old one you spoke about the problems we have with the new testament and the violence and the murders committed by the people of god was a big issue. Really glad you went deeper into this. You helped me anderstand a lot of things. Thanks brother, God bless you.
I've worked as a foster care caseworker and really struggle with understanding why there are children that are hurt. I now recognize that sin is in the world and Satan is real. He infects the abuser. I pray that God protects them.
What I dont understand is why we have to go through this intense world of extreme suffering and torture at all... doesnt sound like love to me
@@JMRabil675 there at things that we may never understandbut ultimately Satan tries to destroy us and our faith. He is a big reason there is so much pain and suffering. But also our disobedience leads us against God's will causing pain and strife.
@@JMRabil675 Good love us enough to give us chances to hear and believe the good news that we might have eternal life in heaven. I pray we make it there. Be encouraged, God wins in the end.
@@JMRabil675 easy. because God gave us the freedom to accept him or reject him. to sin or to be righteous. In this world, those who reject God and are away from him are easy pickings for Satan, the "prince of the earth". Do you think people living the way Satan wants them to, will produce good for the world? Do you think they can make the world a better place to live? Intense world of extreme suffering and torture. Of course that does not sound like love. These things are a product of Satan not God. Why would you think these things are the responsibility of God? Have you forgotten who else is at play here?
If everyone lived the way God wanted them to, the world would be a loving place, but more people would rather live Satan's way doing horrible things to themselves and each other. Spreading hate and confusion around causing the intense suffering you speak of. And in more extreme cases even physically hurting people.
@@JMRabil675 suffering is a part of life apparently, there's no person in the world that have a perfect life
Crazy how I just tweeted 2hrs ago “why does it feel like God is always taking God people” than this video appears on my page. I guess I have found the answers I have been searching for. Thank you for this video.
The thing is, God isn't taking his people (I assume you mean causing them to die).
I am in a difficult position between the two, having a desire to depart and to be with Christ, which is far better. Nevertheless, to remain in the flesh is more needful for your sake. Having this confidence, I know that I shall remain and continue with you all for your joyful advancement of the faith, so that your rejoicing for me may be more abundant in Jesus Christ when I am in your presence again.
Philippians 1:23-26 MEV
By this Paul illustrates a truth that is present in the bible. The people of God chose to allow death to take them rather than God taking their lives from them.
Yes my brother god works in mysterious ways, the other day i was outside Best Buy store and suddenly a add for Best Buy appear in my Cell.
The Bible's description of God makes more sense if we see it not as the description of a being that is by our definition perfect, but as an attempt to explain in terms of a god the world they knew, and the past as they thought it had happened, So their ancestors killed children, or they thought they did, and to justify them they made it a divine command; and the terrible things they saw happen around them, happened because they were God's will.
This was the best explanation I’ve heard thus far... Amazing, keep up the good work.
I guess you like bullshit for an answer. What a fucking moron.
Ken King you ugly asf 💀
Maurice 2000
Where’s your photo you fucking shit for brains moron? You anonymous fucking douchebag. You have to abbreviate with your little acronyms? Are you afraid to say the word you little fucking coward?
@@sidepot lmao calm down key board warrior didn't know it was that time of the month for you
Maurice 2000
Oh my you are so clever you little piece of shit. How about you defend your capricious god and show us how much shit for brains you really have?
These are two questions I was wondering about when you talked about babies: 1) Does this possibly come into play at all when it comes to the question of abortion? I'm wondering how I would respond if someone asked me why we can't allow abortions if God allowed the death of babies/infants or something along those lines. 2) my second question is about God showing no favoritism, I'm not sure how to word my question, but maybe my question is, because God does not contradict Himself, we know that His acts are not out of favoritism but justice? His acts of preserving the life of His own but terminating the lives of others, we are all children of God aren't we? But some choose to be disobedient and go astray? Thank you!
I'll answer your second question. God doesn't show favouritism. It was the Israelites that he chose to bring every human back into a good relationship with himself. And as shown in this video there were some gentiles that he saved for showing kindness, and there are also many examples of Israelites being killed for rebelling against God.
Now I'll answer your first. As it was said in this video. God kills all people. He chooses when life is given and when it is taken away. Abortion is us taking the life of a being with our own hands for personal reasons... God's reasons are always good, and God doesn't pleasure in taking any life, and God is God. He creates life and be takes it away.
the bible kinda contradicts gods character
@@devanplays3509 how
@@silentghost751 the bible has shown multiple times that he isn't the all loving God he says he is.
@@devanplays3509 God is never changing. Christians have it hard on Earth while unbelievers are worry free. This is because the unbelievers slide in their sin to Hell, while we perceiver to Heaven
Allen, I want to thank you, buddy. Today, I got into a huge hurricane of confusion when I was studying this verse "I did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it." I was "Okay, how can this reconcile with the fact that we can't imagine Jesus being in favour for stoning or killing?" And to be honest, I still haven't found a clear explanation, however, with your explanation, I do admit that no one deserves to live before God. And as God, he has all right to kill whoever he wants to, so, I'm more in peace, I'd say. But I still have some doubts about how Jesus and how Jesus (God) is showed in the old testament.
Edit: People, I was in this confusion, and decided to shut off my phone, not to watch any video and go to my Father, and directly ask him. I was honest, I said how I couldn't reconcile Jesus with the God presented in the old testament, I was honest and asked Him to help me in my doubts. And while I was praying I said "I know God that different situations require different sides of you." And that just stroke me. And after I prayed I thought "Those people in the old testament, like Israel, they were extremely rebellious. They could see the sky literally fall down for them that they would still disobey God. The way Jesus fulfilled God's will would never keep those people walking straight. And then I thought...hmm, yes, different situations require different sides of God, that doesn't mean he changes. And I thanked Him for this, I still have to study more and ask Him for more guidance, but that for sure ceased my confusion! Thanks, Jesus :)
Hi, what really helped me was understanding the Old covenant compared to the new covenant. It might be something to study. We are now under the New covenant of grace. The old covenant is under the law, and law deserves death. What that showed me is how much we need a savior, jesus! I am so thankful we are under grace and not under the law, because I would have probably been wiped out a long time ago!!
Before I left the faith I had really considered the implications of the Gospel of Thomas. It's and ancient book from a Thomas about the life of young Jesus, it's exemption from biblical cannon is still debated now and again but anyway. - In it Jesus' early life is very much like that of old testament God. At one point a child falls off a building and dies. Everyone gathers around and Marry asks Jesus if he did it. Jesus says he doesn't then commands the child to get up, he does and says Jesus had nothing to do with it.
Jesus experiences childhood, human life, and from the gospel of thomas we see him growing up literally and figuratively. It means that Jesus had to become human to empathize with humans. This philosophically makes sense as God would require such an experience to understand life as a human.
Think about it like this, god is all knowing, but does he know what it is like to not be all knowing? Does God know what it is like to be limited? When God dishes out punishments in the old testament, it is consistent with a god acting proportionally to a higher being, but not mere humans. After God incarnates and lives as a human, he doesn't smite the same any more, because he learned about life as a human through being one.
Then I actually looked at the faith and lost it but that is neither here nor there.
God bless you Allen Parr
agreed
Here is my take on it.
It all depends on how you interpret the Seed of the Serpent in Genesis 3:15 as well as the 1st 4 verses of Genesis 6 (The sons of God part)
My personal conclusion after doing some research in different cultures is that the Sons of God are the Fallen Angels(The History Channel call them 'ancient aliens') which sinned mentioned the Letter of Jude.
Their sins include getting it on with human women to form the Nephillim(Giants), which can be the seed of the serpent, blending different species of animals together, hence all the different chimera creatures in mythologies (what did the ancient people see that we don't?). This also explains why God deemed that 'all flesh was corrupted' leading to the inhabitants only thinking evil and decided to give a final grace period of 120 years before flooding the world which is also seen in various mythologies.
Which would make sense since God said that the seed of the woman will crush the serpent's head, the serpent would want to mess up the seed of the woman (Shout out to Rob Skiba for this).
The same thing applies to God telling Israel to destroy the nations, they were from Canaan, which were known for having giants, they also seem to have done the whole mixing animal species together hence there is a Law in the Torah that says 'do not mate different kinds of animals together'.
God saw what these hybrid creatures did and since he promised not to flood the world again, need to get rid of them in different methods (notice that they were also given about 500-600 years before Israel was told to wipe them out).
It would also explain why God tells Abraham, Issac and Jacob not to take wives from Canaanites since their genetics are not purely from Eve.
So from this I realised that the Old Testament as a whole also shows a cosmic chess match between God and Satan, God's goal is to bring Jesus from the pure genetics of Eve (Gen 3:15) and Satan is to try to prevent it.
@@varunifernando2239 the 120 years can be to get them to stop whatever they were doing which end up being genetically impure. Also to build the ark. The book of Jasher which is referenced in the Bible twice says that God told Noah to preach 115 years, the remaining 5 years were used to build the ark.
As to how the nephilim came back, likely because Ham's wife is not genetically pure, either that or the civilisation lead by Nimrod found the ancient technology and redid the whole genetics mess.
@@varunifernando2239 no problem, I suggest you visit a channel called Rob Skiba.
He talks about it in detail, though I cannot say for sure that he is absolutely correct, the things he say can be thought provoking.
Wow. Yes. That's exactly why. You hit the nail on the head. These ppl were of satan's seed. Corrupted hybrid humans who's nature was an abomination in Gods eyes. He let them flourish hoping that would turn from their evil ways.. but their nature wouldn't let them and God wasnt about to let their wicked Influences end up eventually corrupting and tainting the blood line he was to birth himself through via Jesus Chist. Sooo they had to go. Like the brother said... all babies go to heaven. And judging from what we dealing with in this world now... they was given mercy I could only dream of. A free ride to heaven and never experiencing pain. Good deal.
Yes, and its important to note that satan can only do what God allows him to do and his power and vision is limited. It doesn't matter what satan does to destroy God's plan, God's plan is always greater. This is seen in the new testament, when we are told how satan entered judas to make him betray Jesus to get him arrested and killed, so as to hinder God. In the end, satan seemingly succeeds in getting the messiah killed through crucifixion, but probably didn't realize that this was God/Jesus' plan all along, to let himself be crucified for the sins of the world. And satan just ended up playing into God's hands. Doesnt matter what satan does. God is always more than a step ahead. The devil plays checkers, while God is playing 4d chess
This video is 4 years old but very relevant to me today. Thank you Brother Allen and may his wisdom and knowledge continue to be greatly multiplied in you. If only i can LIKE this video 50 times more .......
Well put Allen. I'm impressed on how you tackle these difficult questions.
What is more amazing is how you idiots fall for this bullshit so easily. You people have shit for brains. What a fucking joke.
@@sidepot why u here homie? replying to every other comment?
Jacob Brownfield
Why are you here? What the fuck do you have to say?
@@sidepot Another angry atheist.
@@craigezell4261
You ÷ just another babbling. Idiot.
Well answerd, this is God's universe and he should do as he sees fit.
Exactly......
Just like any other despicable dictator
@@margaretbarrett6087 well he is omnipotent and can do anything he wants. he wants people to repent and turn from their wicked ways but if your choose not too oh well you get punished likewise . if you brake the law in the usa you get punished likewise.
AZTL Oh I wasn’t aware that the USA sentenced its lawbreakers to eternal torture in a pit of fire.
@@margaretbarrett6087 well if you dont choose God where is he supposed to send you? he by nature is Good and has to punish sin . if you die as a sinner well he HAS to punish you as sin cannot be in his presence. any place without God would be torture. as he is everything Good. he is things like justice righteousness hope etc. he made hell for the devil if you die a sinner you pretty much are choosing to follow the devil instead of God. thus your get punished like he does.
So, it could be God's MERCY in taking the lives of the babies who may have grown to become evil. And God knows what they would have been as adults.
You did an excellent job in this presentation, brother. Thank you! I shared your video with Marty Sampson, a Hillsong songwriter who has recently declared he no longer is Christian. I read that one of his reasons is due to his inability to understand how God could kill the "innocent" in the Old Testament. So when I saw the title of this video, i HAD to watch and to share it to Marty Sampson's facebook (message). It's really very upsetting to see a once on-fire-for-God leader of worship fall from faith. Reminds me of lucifer in this respect. (Wasn't he a worship leader as well?)
Thank you for tackling this very difficult issue. You did excellently in explaining a very tough topic.
And ultimately, (I always say this to people when discussing this or a similar subject)...Where we see but one page, God sees the WHOLE book.
Who are we to judge God, Who is only righteous? How can we possibly understand His thoughts? How arrogant to think we could possibly know MORE than God Almighty. Man takes the notion of "goodness" and applies his own definition of it to God, completely ignorant of the vastness and majesty of God! Like God told Job "Now brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall inform Me! 4Where were youwhen I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 5Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched a measuring line across it?…" Job 38:3-5
I think it comes down to humility...it is essential we know our place....and it is essential we REVERENCE God, knowing what Abraham understood...that God is always righteous and He is always good, regardless of what He asks of us; regardless of what He most assuredly has a right to do.
I'm starting to understand HOW there can be a great falling away/apostasy in these last days...because today there is less reverence for God...there is less humility....more pride....people being falsely taught that Jesus is our "brother" instead of our God Who deserves to be worshiped. Kids are not being trained to respect parents....and in this, they are not being taught to respect other authoritative figures in their lives, including God.
Ok...I"m just rambling...Thank you for this excellent video, Allen! God bless you, brother. :)
That explanation contradicts the fact that GOD gave is free will .So what happened to baby Hitler? or baby Charles Manson? or hundreds of millions of truly evil minded people like pedophiles, rapists, mirderers , sadists ...why were they spared as babies? Do you think GOD picks and chooses? It's sad how the bible has brainwashed so many. Look at how the angry jelous vengeful God in the old testament is different from the loving forgiving peaceful God of the new testament, YET GOD is unchangeable hmmmmm .I think mans need tp control ,justify and instill fear to control the masses may have something to do with it.GOD is ALL LOVING!! Perfect in every way yet more powerful than we can imagine. Gpd has no ego to please ,he does not want animal or human sacrifice (like the bible mentions in the old testament) JESUS CHRIST is the only way to our creator GOD, follow his teachings for truth ,that's all we need.
I doubt that he (Marty) was ever TRUE Christian, may be he was very religious man, but withOUT the SPIRIT of CHRIST...
Be careful Sis, NOT all who "worship Jesus" in songs are New creations...! I even know some churches (btw: we are the Church) that pay to secular musicians and singers to lead their "worship", this is ridiculous...
But even in these cases i hope that God will reveal Himself in His SON to some of the unbeliever professionals through the Fire of the HOLY SPIRIT........
MAranatha (Come LORD Jesus)!
The killing of Uzah, for stabilizing the Ark of the covenant, really troubled me for a long time...😐
Sameeeeee
@x moses Agreed. The whole attempted justification that they were simply being transferred to a different place is nonsense when you consider they were murdered brutally.
@x moses can you share the scripture?
Can anyone tell the Potter what to do with his clay🤔
The clay didn't ask to be born and feel pain, for the suffering for something that haven't even done.
Can anyone tell an abusive parent what they can do to their children?
Can anyone tell an abusive dog owner what they can do to their dogs?
Can anyone tell a corrupt government what it can do to its citizens?
Just because someone has power or authority doesn’t make it a good argument to do harm to others.
With great power comes great responsibility.
Great video, Allen Parr. Definitely some responses that I can share next time someone tells me that the God of the OT was horrible. Not all will listen, but the choice is up to them.
Blessings, my brother. So, thankful for your teaching on this topic. I will share it for my research discussion Bible College school. Great! Scripture, stay blessed.
It just astounding that it seems whenever I question our heavenly father's motives and pray/talk to him about it, up pops a video on the exact same subject 😁 thank you father for this video. Amazing!
Isn't it lovely to have faith in a heavenly father who has killed infants at will.
@@TelephoneToughGuy You've definitely missed the important part that these children are with the heavenly Father and no longer living being sexually and physically abused by their sinful Amalek parents. God took them home. And some of them would have grown up to hurt and attack the Israelites. God is in control and I trust him. God stopped the Amelek people from putting their children in harm's way and sacrificing them. He put his foot down and said you are done. Earthly courts convict criminals and they face the consequences for their crimes. God is just and righteous. Unlike earthly courts that are corrupt.
@@princessbabibear4794 : Right, so then you agree that under the right circumstances, it is perfectly fine to slaughter infants!
(Because God has done it, and ordered his followers to do it.)
Really, let that sink in.
You know, it's funny that so many Christians go around calling abortionists "baby killers," like it is a bad thing.
Because that should be considered a compliment of the highest order, should it not? Since God is a baby killer too!
...You do realize that God can do *anything* , don't you? (I believe they call it "omnipotence")
Therefore God could have resolved the conflict with the Jews and Amalekites *without* killing babies.
But why didn't he?
Well, apparently because murdering an infant is a wonderful thing!
--Then again, why is "Thou shalt not kill" a commandment, when at times God commands his people to murder infants?🤔
Shouldn't they remove that commandment, or at least add an asterisk next to it?
Or maybe it should read
"Thou shalt not kill, unless I tell you to slaughter infants and commit genocide. Then it's perfectly ok."
Thankyou for answering this question with scripture. I've researched this and so far this is best answer I have seen. I think discussing these controversial topics are a good thing. Its always great to see another perspective especially when it follows along with the bible.
Unbelievably excellent explanation! I’ve heard MANY pastors try to answer this question & your explanation is the absolute hands down best I’ve heard. You’ve done your research. I’m so impressed. Thank you. Wonderful channel. 😊
Psalm 137:8-9 DASH BABIES HEADS OPEN WITH A ROCK WHILE FEELING HAPPY.
God takes credit for rape.
God turned a man into a bear to mule children for calling the man baldy.
An illustration of how good people can be influenced to do or accept immoral things based on religion.
No one is good except God. You yourself are evil and do evil things but you have the audacity to point fingers at others. Don't be self-righteous. Repent and believe the gospel.
@Cantu Shea In order to understand that scripture you have to continue to read it also says no one seek GOD it has to be those people he was talking to because how many people you know now seeks GOD and there are good people that live their life pleasing to the MOST HIGH. If you are a true child of the MOST HIGH instead of religion you would know there a lot of things in the Bible don’t add up especially if one living a life the way the MOST HIGH intended for us to live.
Well out of all other clips i have seen. In 5 mins you get to the point clearly. Actually makes a lot of sense ... thank you.
People often don't get that God is Judge. Meaning He can give and take life for He is Creator. We cannot judge God by human standards also because God isn't human to be judged even. Meanwhile, people complain about God handling judgments and when He doesn't it's also a problem. Look at the court system even, with the judge sending inmates to death row all the time. Look back at history and the murders mankind has committed whether socially, politically or even religiously. So much blood has been shed. No one talks against that even in the killer on death row, who took ONE life, right? They agree for that person to die. People are hypocritical in their viewpoints also. When Christ came, grace became widely and deeply available to all mankind. Before Christ, God had to be the Judge He is to keep order in the world and also bring forth The Messiah through mankind, spotless and unblemished. Hope this helps someone here reading get some better understanding.
I love you're videos sir, it has helped me alot in building my spiritual life.
Thanks so much Sam. I appreciate you taking time to share that with me. God bless,
@Tim Clark That's an observation I have often made. I am not a native speaker but I do try to make my grammatical or spelling errors minimal; and, of course, they are committed unintentionally. Alot means what? It is supposed to be "a lot".
Thank you so much for these short videos! I know I’ve been blessed by them. Sometimes I even use them to play and minister to my co-worker. He has similar questions to some of the topics like these. You explain it in such a way that is Biblical and easy to understand. Praying for God’s blessings on you and this ministry. 🙏🏽😊
I'm so glad you can now feel that slaughtering babies and children can be justifiable. Go forth and feel good about this GREAT NEWS... Meanwhile don't breed, don't mingle, don't breath you useless monstrous POS.
@@ExtantFrodo2 Let the man worship who he wants to.
@@ryanl.8085 Am I somehow wrong to say go ahead and worship this monster?
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 *"it was Moses who ordered for that to be done; and thus probably why the Lord didn’t allow him to enter the promised land. "*
IDK how I can discuss the bible with people who in their first sentence demonstrate they have not read it (or at best have not retained what they read).
FYI Moses was forbidden entry because the struck a stone twice when god only told him to strike the stone.
The slaughter of Israel's neighbors continued for thousand of years after Moses.
*"here’s the ironic part..."*
ironic indeed that god should use killing to show that killing is wrong. However you commit the same error as always. Killing babies because their parent were doing something horrible is as horrible as can be.
This is GOD we're talking about. Where is the mercy?
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 *"Do you see any mention of God ordering this to be done?"*
Is that the only occasion of transgression against their neighbors? No. Don't try to play me for a fool.
*" In disobeying God's command/doing more than was commanded him, he forfeited his right to own the promised land."*
You're telling me? I was the one who told you. What kind of rudeness is this?
*"But the child does go to heaven"*
Pffft, more apologetical justification BS
Hey man, I wanted to say thanks for posting this, I'm glad I found your channel.
Amazing answered👏 God bless you brother Allen, I watch your videos and I am amazed how you can explain difficult subjects in a way for all the people to comprehend! You wisdom is a gift from God to help many!
This is the best explanation I've ever heard on the subject which I have struggled with for a long time
Lmfao you struggled because your own morals know this is wrong don’t roll over and give in.
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Amen brother that was cool and thorough! God bless you brother Allen Parr!
One of the best explainations I’ve heard. Great job Allen God Is using you well!
This channel is an eye opener, I never looked at it this way.
Man! This helped me with questions I had on my heart! I kept asking myself why the Lord allows Christian's in Africa to be murdered and why does he let them starve when the bible says he even feeds the birds, so he'll take care of us; but thinking in a way like, 'God has a larger plan and it's not for me to know and understand' really helped me out. I still wonder though in ways why he doesn't feed them. God is sovereign, and bc of that, I find myself feeling like I'm not big enough to try and understand!
true and death is not the end. God prepared a better place for us after death
I used to ask the question of why people go hungry as well. I heard a pastor once say there is plenty of food in the world but it is the greed of nations and humankind that keep the food from going to people who need it. I hope this is helpful. Praying for you ❤❤❤
@@jenacacruz oh wow
@@jenacacruz Well, actually fulfilling John 14:13, regarding the feeding of 5,000, would also help, quite a lot, too.
Given world is not united, Romans 13:1 is not always cohesive, and nor is John 17:20?
Thank you for those verses
God is God. He made everything everything around us. We are all born sinners, to begin with. One minute to a hundred years of life, we all will die sometime. Those who are destined to Hell will go to Hell. Those who are destined for Heaven will go to Heaven. We don't understand the mind of God. To help in doing so I suggest you read the Bible. Multiple times, understanding God will be better understood. Do not doubt God. Do not mock God. God is sovereign.
Amen Amen Amen 🗣🗣🗣we all will die one day only God know how we going to die.
@@sister_Tmeeka I spent a lifetime saving human life.
@@davidbenner2289 that was God not you/man🌹God get all the Credit.but when it’s our time it’s our time❤️God bless you.
@@sister_Tmeeka I know that. I've dealt with over a thousand deaths, from miscarriages to 104 year old. All I did was buy time and give that lived a second chance.
This is the best arguments that I found on internet to clarify all confusion about God merciful and just.
This gives me hope and trust in God's mercy.
Thank you, sir.
Well done friend. Really well done. Thank you. You have helped me accept something I have struggled with for 3 years. May God bless you. Especially like the verse from Ezekiel. God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but as you say he knows the future and he had to get the world ready for JESUS!
MUCH LOVE MY BROTHER IN CHRIST!
Great video, but I think it's a good idea to mention that Jesus was the ONLY innocent man in this world. I know u brushed up on it a little bit but it's important to emphasize that.
I guess one can be innocent and still be an ignorant narcissistic bigot given the depiction of the Bible.
And thats not special pleading
MyContext ?
@@deandreross4745
There are passages which are looked over such as the passage where the woman had to compare herself to a dog due to NOT being a jew to supposedly get help.
MyContext you’ve misinterpreted and misread many things
Thank you for this biblical review on this topic, I will be sharing with the youth tomorrow during our meeting together because one of the youth asked the question. Thanks 👊🏾 🙏🏾
Since you broke it down and backed it up with Scripture, it's a lot understandable. It ALL makes sense. Thank you for sharing.🙏🏾
Great explanation brother. I love how you back everything up with the word of God. Only way to do it🙏 👍🏾
Every thing he said is SICk the babies are better off dead to hear this and agree is insane
The same people that object the destruction of the amalekites for their evil are the same people that get upset about God allowing evil in the world.
Thank you for this. This really put a whole new perspective for me.
You are a fucking moron. You would buy anything from a charlatan. Your perspective is now warped like a brainwashed idiot.
Ken King Why do you need to be angry? By new perspective, I mean this makes sense, especially in harmony with the rest of the Bible, even though it’s a hard pill to swallow.
And my perspective is warped? Compared to what perspective? Do you think I’m a mindless cultist who will just shrug off the death of people because God allows it? Don’t you know God hates it even more than we do, to the point that being angry makes one a murderer at heart (there’s a right kind of anger and a wrong kind)? And by angry, it means worldly anger. Like somebody driving behind you angrily even though you’re going the speed limit.
I listen to a ton of “charlatans” not just one. And compare it with personal study of the Bible. Why do you have to be angry at Christians, not just me? They might not always say the best thing, but they mean well and don’t want to see you die, and neither does God, as you are given a fair opportunity to hear and accept the gospel.
We shouldnt question it? Nah im good i question everything...
God gave you that questioning mind. But be wise and don’t be rebellious. God almighty made us, if we have law enforcement on this earth we won’t have it in the gods law of life?
@Miss Gonzalez So based on "rational thinking", you're comparing your finite mind to an infinite mind?
How can you be so logical in that department if you're not the creator of the universe?
@Miss Gonzalez you can’t make up your own opinion about God through rational thinking. Rational thinking unto God is foolishness. Cause he’s sovereign he’s creator he’s beginning and end.
Lol imagine believing in something becuase someone told you so, have some brain people. Biblical god is not real
@@witachapinamk1507 lol nah you deceived my friend!
Well done, Allen. †
Thanks Allen. Skeptics I’ve encountered often use references from the new testament about the love of Jesus and the golden rule and ask question like “how is this the same God in the O.T?” This has been difficult for me to explain to unbelievers, as they usually seem to not understand the harmony of God’s love and wrath throughout the entire bible.
God Bless
Actually brother JESUS (the WORD) is the Mighty GOD of the O.T. (this is Mystery - 1 Timothy 3:16/John 1:1-14)
Read Jeremiah 1:4-9 in verse 9 GOD (YHWH/the LORD) touched Jeremiah, but in verse 4 the WORD comes and speaks (this is JESUS)
So, in verse 9 is the HAND of JESUS.......
Also in Zechariah 12:10 (GOD speaks:) And they will look at ME (YHWH), whom they PIERCED..........
Also Isaiah 45:23/Philippians 2:10.... Also Jonah 1:1 And came the WORD of the LORD to Jonah and SAYS (Again Jesus comes and speaks.....) and afterwards Jonah was flee from the LORD's Presence... Thus means that the WORD of the LORD is the LORD HIMSELF (the Holy Spirit is the Presence of CHRIST/GOD, thus means that the Holy Spirit is the LORD Himself - 2 Cor. 3:17, Job 33:4, Psalms 104........)
GOD JESUS bless you Abundantly!
I think it's easier to answer when you understand the holiness, justice, and wrath of God
@@Swiftninjatrev And His rather indolent response, in contrast, to the blood libel, Inquisition, and slave trade, in past Christendom, too, I mean?
As in, is easier, to understand...? Just how slow, or vague - it was...
@@chrissonofpear1384 tu hablas ingles? Hablas ingles.
There is actually no clear answer to the question. The only answer I know is that He is GOD and if we know how He thinks and work on His decisions, He is not God. He will just be a regular John. He is beyond everything and evryone.
Spoke wisdom there ...
@@bailujen8052 have sex, incel
because he is a killer,look at what he did to the european jews during ww2,no one kills like that but god,
God forgive my reply, that was a long time ago get over with it
@@MultiKINGWAYNE that is what God used to do, it was a long time ago, Jesus saved us from this by dying for our sins
This is an insightful and excellent channel! Mr Parr, keep up the good work!
God bless you Allan for this post.... This was amazing... You trashed it out really well... More wisdom brother!
Right. Wisdom = making excuses for a psychopathic genocidal maniac.
@@TomorrowisYesterday , or is it because you don't want to understand ?
@@Mark-um5hc No. I don't want to learn techniques for excusing genocide. It is a detestable practice.
@@Mark-um5hc
YOU ARE LOST
One of the best I've seen--Allen cuts to the meat of the issue so well.
Thank you!!! I believe God lead me to this video. I was questioning so many things in the Bible that I didn't understand.
Thank you for a clear and great explanation concerning a very delicate topic. I am a granny of four and am often concerned for them about a lot of the topics you give answers to. Thank you.
Just a thought on this spesific topic. Could it not also be that they had a non- human gene pool? Thinking about the giants in Canaan, king Og was a giant and Goliath and his four brothers were as well. Many other examples of giants are mentioned in the Old Testament. The fact that even the animals were to be destroyed, makes me think that there was maybe genetic tampering there as well. Look at the size of the grapes that the spies brought out of Canaan. I would love to hear your opinion on this. God bless you and your ministry.
We do not know how God thinks. The thoughts of God are not at all what we think. We also do not know all mystery. I do know one thing for sure. He created me and is my spiritual father. I am going to try and do what he tells me to do in the Bible and confess my sins to him and ask for forgiveness. Period.
for those who hate God's actions...
by what objective standards of morality do you judge God... if your own standards are nihilistic.
I love listening to you share God's words making it very easy to understand
Wow! This is the best explanation I’ve heard yet! This really answered my question! Thank you so much man if God!
lol
Awesome videos! Really like your content
Thanks so much Game and Gainz! I really appreciate that. I'll keep making them.
Allen, thanks for sharing this. My wife ask me this many times. I don't know how to exactly explain this to her. I know I need to read more to have a better understanding. However, I do believe everything in the Bible. Thank you for sharing this video. You have helped me in alot of ways to look at things straight on. And to have a better understanding. Please continue your work for Christ.
It's so awesome how His word confirms His word. I too was troubled by this, so much so, that I avoided the old testament because I couldn't understand how a GOD of love could order the killing of woman and children in addition to cattle. It was GOD who lead me to this same conclusion. Wow! Such confirmation as we pray and search it out. Amen Allen! Praise GOD!
First argument: If god kills everyone, why hold murderers to account? God wills it so wouldn't they just be fulfilling gods will? Second argument: if even babies that have not done anything are sinners, is that a valid reason to kill someone? Is the potential of a baby sinning in some way at some point a valid reason to kill it now? third argument: all the killed people were wicked? All of them? Even the babies were engaged in bestiality. Also what did the animals do to be also killed with the women and children? Seems overkill. Fourth argument: ah right, these babies were going to become wicked so they had to be killed. But none of the actual murderers in the world are killed by god now, does he no longer care to prevent is from living with murderers? He's all knowing so he could just kill the babies that are going to kill right?
I'm so glad you had this video I have a rude ignorant friend that's always bringing up this subject
And what you understand from this video?
BECAUSE GOD IS EVIL
I always thought it was funny when ppl lump women in with babies and children as if women are inherently less wicked than men or equally as innocent as children😂
aaahWHAT? WOMAN why woman
I thank God for you Brother.,❤️😇
Thank you +The Beat by Allen Parr..a very clear explanation
THE #1 atheist antiGod argument. I hear this all the time. Needed the insight for appropriate rebuttal. Thank you as always-coming through!!
roasted pancakes It’s true they do this to put themselves above God I can tell just how they say it. They act like they are better than God as if they can do a better job of being God than God himself. Smh
@@EvangelistAidan Can't you imagine a better world an almighty being could have designed?
@@mattwurst3755 God is not going to spoil you if that’s what you’re on about especially if you don’t deserve it
@@EvangelistAidan Deserve??? He punishes with death and infinite torture in hell, for the pettiest of things.
I was thinking of a world without unnecessary suffering, like children born with genetic defects, or religious wars because he was unable to convey his message. If you believe in the tower of babel, to split up a unified language was plain stupid.
@@mattwurst3755 this earth is going to pass away... why do you care so much about your temporary life on earth... what you should be caring about is your eternity after earth, do you know if you’re actually going to heaven?
Nobody killed Jesus he willingly gave his life
Where's the scriptures that Jesus took his own life?
@@peterryan6675 Read Philippians 2 He was in the Form of God (because HE is GOD), but HE DECIDE to take the form of servant...
He knows very well what will be happen to HIM (read Mathew, Mark,Luke, John)...
God Jesus bless you!
That's pretty much how my dad explained me when I was a kid 20 some years ago and he also explained me about people who never heard about Jesus and after death where do they go and why is so.
they go to heaven
@@erwintan4746 if they are not innocent they do not
Another amazing video! Thanks for the clarification amongst this topic which is still questioned in today's time! I love it!
Almighty God (Jehovah) is the Supreme Judge (Psalms 83:18 KJV)
This was great! I totally agree with your explanation. I at one time did not understand why God would kill the innocent. I would read the Old Testament and be in shock! But I got an understanding from a word I received from a Pastor and it all made sense. Thank you so much for this topic. Be Blessed!
Hey Tammy, you are very welcome! Thanks for being such a faithful member of the community. God bless,
" I at one time did not understand why God would kill the innocent." And thanks to genocide apologetics, now you are okay with a loving god murdering infants and pregnant women. Are you okay with slavery, sexual slavery, and animal torture now too or are you still finding sticking spots with those?
Well, if that's what you wanted. Will it take time to explain to brand new converts?
So you're telling me unborn kids are not innocent?? If God is all knowing then why would he create those he will kill knowing they will turn against him?
Strong speaker and insightful vid
Thank you Allen for the revelation. God is Sovereign and All knowing!
Yes indeed He is!
Thank you God for removing my doubt from this video.
What were your doubts ?
Wow I was struggling with this and I thank you for making everything clear.
Wow! that was great!! Praying that my son will watch your videos. I thank God for allowing me to find you!!
Why would you want to worship the guy who tells his prophet it's OK to wipe out or subjugate entire civilizations simply because said civilizations don't worship said god?
Allen, I appreciate and love the way you use scripture to defend scripture, and help find answers to some very difficult questions posed by both believers and skeptics alike.
You have a very likeable and friendly demeanor.
You should be getting at least 10X more views with these very informative and educational Bible related You Tube videos... they are that good!
Health, Joy, Peace and Blessings!
only a monster would try to defend the slaughter of babies and try to justify it by saying those babies were evil.
@@ExtantFrodo2 Indeed, this biblical interpretation cannot avoid teaching that if God kills because he is "righteous", "holy", etc., he can also steal, covet, lie, cheat, etc. in such "righteounsess". This is nonesense.
@@ExtantFrodo2 they were just like you insulting God.
@@wanderingoutlaw2083 Really? How many babies have you seen who can insult anybody?
Hey Allen, how u doing, I know some subjects are difficult and controversial, but, have u thought of doing an specific video about babies going to heaven? tho' theres no much on the bible, but what we can gather as much as we can...! Just a thought, take care dude!! keep it up
7 things Christians just need to stop saying. In this video he talks about it briefly.
only dogs go to heaven
just saying
@@erwintan4746 well, it is better if we study before saying, animals don't go to heaven or hell, good day sr.
@@charlesnunez5727 if there are no heaven and hell, mankind can be better creature, maybe even better than dogs :)
@@erwintan4746 maybe... but there actually is heaven and hell, and humams go there by default, by nature unless we obey God's word, believe that Jesus died for us on the cross and came back.
You can't justify genocide
God does what He wants and your pathetic opinion wont and never will change this...*mic drop*
@@xfactorfishing7208
If God will say you to kill somebody, will you do it?
@@xfactorfishing7208 So your okay with genocide
The thing that makes this question so controversial is the fact that people including myself have failed to keep in mind to humble ourselves and realize that we are all equal and not entitled to peace or even a good night's sleep. We are that low and wicked
@Sheila Phillip true to a certain extent. We are set apart in christ but should still humble ourselves because we by ourselves are nothing and through christ that's what makes us righteous.
Sounds like we need to re-write the next version to fit these current times
Yes, the Bible needs rewritten. To take in all the interpretations the bible would be many thousand times bigger.
It has take 9 minutes to interpret just one question .
This was the best answer I ever heard about this question. Thank you for stating that these babies will be in heaven and that if they had lived, they will have gone to eternal hell. Not sure why others dont answer this way !!!1
I feel exactly the same
Thank you brother for the way you’ve explained this beautifully and clearly. It’s helped me and I’m sure many others be able to understand. Let the ones who are meant to receive the message, receive it. May all things be done in the will of God 🙏🏽✨
Extremely helpful vídeo I’m saving it
That’s what I always tell people We all die someday and I use the same words you did; we all have an expiration date! God saved those innocent children and babies by sending them to heaven. I always felt that they would grow up and seek revenge once they found out their families were murdered.
...saved babies by sending them to heaven.. ohhh, so sweet :P
...in the same category as animal life?
So those children were innocent and their families murdered?
Casualties from the Canaanite conquest aside, what about Egyptian firstborns?
Sent them to heaven by brutally murdering them. What a loving god 😌
@@expiredtylernol and lived forever in heaven
No suffering
No sickness
@@expiredtylernol yes, thank you He is a very loving God, who answers to no one. Those children have been in heaven all this time & for all eternity loving & being loved. with no memory of any pain.
@@bethshoaf so by your logic when people are aborting babies they are just being sent to heaven? So you must be pro abortion then...
God gives us the breath of life and He is the One who determines our time of birth and death.No man can control God or argue against His judgements because He is all knowing. No matter what man says or thinks, it cannot change the fact that God is the one who has the ultimate power over life and death. The best response of man is to acknowledge God's power and submit to Him.
GOD’S WILL. Amen
He’s just like any other despicable dictator then
This actually helped me gain a bit more clarity on this topic and question . Thanks for sharing
it explain alot and thank you pastor Allen parr