Sugar Ray Leonard on Who Hit Harder Hagler or Hearns and would he beat floyd - marquez
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Hard to hit a man running in the opposite direction, Hagler = legend!
Sugar Ray whupped Haglers butt. RIP Hagler
that guy agreed 100%,
@@klicknkreate7077 no he didn’t 😂 close fight and the decision is understandable but hagler never got hurt and Ray did. Rip hagler
@@cade9173 Not that close
@@cade9173 Hagler was shook in the later rounds, ray Leonard was dropping bombs on him.
I did not think he beat Hagler either but it does not diminish the fact that Sugar Ray Leonard is one of the all time greats
YOU DONT KNOW BOXING ROBERT.
Agree completely. The Hagler fight was a draw at best. But both guys were as good as any fighter in my lifetime (and I’m old enough to remember Ali).
Sugar Ray whupped Hagler. Hagler RIP
I was stationed in Okinawa, Japan when Hagler fought Leonard and I still say that Leonard did not beat Hagler. Leonard fought like a coward and ran through out that fight.
@@mr.skywalker6538 Can tell you’re not a boxing fan if you call it “running”. If Leonard was running and doing nothing, he wouldn’t have gotten the decision in the first place.
liked him at first, but he "Ducked" Marvin Hagler for 5 yrs , and then fought him on the downside of Marvin Hagler's career.
They were both past their prime bud, but both also weren’t terribly old. People have come up with this misconception that Hagler was in his late 30’s and Leonard was a spring chicken but that furthest from the truth. Leonard had already had many injuries plaguing him and had a 4 yr layoff when taking the Hagler fight, and he still beat Hagler which is impressive asf.
And whatever happened to his detached retina that prevented him?
@@makaveli3189 They
He got the decision but he didn't beat him
@@joshuajarod1909 He did beat him if you look at their record. He also landed more significant strikes at a higher % than Hagler. So yes Leonard did win the fight.
@@jonnydanger7181 Sugar Ray Leonard did have a detached retina and had surgery to repair it in 1982, and then in 1984 had another surgery to repair the retina in his right eye. He fought Kevin Howard in 1984, but did not have another fight till his first fight with Hagler in 1987. So Leonard wasn’t ducking Hagler, he was drinking too much and doing drugs which was caused at least partly due to the stress of he didn’t know if he would be able to fight again. And considering he had only 1 fight in 5 years and hadn’t fought for 3 years before he fought Hagler, it was beyond incredible that he was able to fight so well against Hagler. And Leonard was 30 just a month away from being 31, and Hagler was 32 a month away from being 33, so both were very close in age.
Leonard's whole strategy was to run from Hagler until the final seconds, then do a flurry of punches as if he was hurting Hagler --- and the chump judges bought Leonard's cheap act.
Hagler actually won the fight; he threw more punches; hit Leonard more than Leonard hit him; and his punches hurt Leonard more than Leonard's love taps hurt Hagler. All in all, Hagler should have won the unanimous decision. You simply don;t take away a champion's belt simply because the opponent is the better actor.
A real shame that the PT Barnum of middleweights, Leonard, got the win. It was a sham!
Then again, if Leonard had decided to actually participate in the fight rather than making like Peter Pan, Hagler might have killed him!
Yes you are correct technically. The difference is Sugar was hitting Hagler like a little girl would have just for the points. Sugar only won on points. That is not how you are supposed to dethrone a champ. This type of stuff is what ruins sports.
Hagler acknowledged in an interview that Leonard can punch, why did Hagler backed Ray on the ropes but had to let him escape when Leonard flurried if those punches have no effect on him at all ?
Hagler won the fight but it was very, very close. Shouldn't have given up those early rounds to Sugar.
Hearns had the most devastating right hand of the Fab Four but had a glass jaw,Sugar had the fastest hand speed and skills,Duran had the biggest heart and Marvin was just a all round beast 👍🥊
Duran might’ve had the best skills
Glass jaw?... you real?...
@@matthewgaler6544 Not a glass jaw. Angelo Dundee said that Hearns' biggest problem wasn't his chin but it was his balance. He said that if Hearns had the balance of Ray Leonard that he would have beaten all of them.
Schweitzer-Man Ffs.... wernt me saying Hearns had a glass jaw. Re read..
Duran certainly didn't have e big heart lol
.."Hagler didn't hit me that much"..Yeah, ok Sugar..Then why'd you end up in the hospital after that fight??
Joey Cage He lost the fight? Did you even saw the fight? Leonard clearly won.
Cuz he tore a ham string running all night.
+Hammering Hank Sugar Ray never ran. He used sweet boxing skills in that fight. There's no doubt that Hagler was robbed in that fight but I've seen way worse robberies. Remember Eubank vs Benn II? Possibly the worst boxing robbery ever.
You didn't forget Foreman-Briggs, did you?
Yeah, Briggs got his ass beat. I have no idea how he got the decision. Foreman outboxed him for the whole fight and almost knocked him down in the fourth. Briggs's punches looked ineffective against the steel chinned Foreman.
He didn't beat Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
He was given that fight in my opinion
I think Sugar Ray is one of greats !!! But Sugar lost to Duran n 80 .Sugar did a Rematch like 2 Months later cause Duran blew up between Fights and Had to lose 40 Pounds to make 147 n 2nd Fight it was a Endurance issue .
Also Sugar the beating He took n the first Hearns fight Sugar should have lost He retired n 82 at the age of 25 almost 26 .Sugar n My Opinion Lost to Haggler. And He most definitely lost to Hearn's part 2 n 88 .
So Basically Sugar Really lost to Duran ,Haggler and Hearns .Sugar then after fighting Duran a 3rd time which Duran should have retired Middle Weight Champ after Beating Iran Barkley n 89 .Duran was 39 years old and Duran had around 85 wins-7 Losses from 1968 to 1989 21 years of Pro Fighting. Duran ended up with over 110 Plus wins and 15 losses .Duran fought Pro until He was n His 50s .
Hearns won second fight
H.S 93 Sugar Ray admitted Hearns won the second fight so it makes sense
and he ran from a washed up Hagler
@@erikjon8432 he couldn't fight toe to toe only person i saw other then duran he had to dance around to win . it was a good fight though
@@rudyleon7321 agreed.
Let it go.
Sugar Ray Leonard would not give a rematch that says a lot
I agree with you. Leonard did not give a rematch to Hagler because he knew he can't beat Hagler if he had a rematch.
@@zs8796 Good point. After Hagler retired on Apr. 1988, Leonard came back and had a match on Nov. 1988 with B class champion Lalonde. Leonard avoided Hagler and picked up a easy opponent.
@@zs8796 Hagler lost two times by Willie Monroe & Bobby watts before he became champion. I didn't see those fights but they say that those defeats were robbery. If this is true Hagler never lost in his entire career cause I also think he won that Leonard fight.
Hey dumbass know your history....hagler was offered the rematch but he turn it down because he think he won the first fight and cant stand the corruption of boxing...give props to leonard too he bravely fought one of the best middleweight
@@who_am_ii Hagler was offered a rematch three fucking years after the fact. Why don't you learn your history?
Sugar too strong for Mayweather at Welterweight. Floyd was during his time great lightweight fighter. Sugar was a natural welter and ko'd some top notch fighters at that weight. Floyd hasn't knocked out any at Welter. When he fought Mosely, mosely was 8-6 in his last 14 fights and De la Hoya was over the hill too. Sugar Ray beat some good fighters at 154 even knocking some out. Just my opinion and like everyone else's its all speculation. All these fighters should be respected they proved it in the ring when it mattered.
You gotta remember Floyd's hands were damaged by that time and never recovered even to this day
Good insight, i personally after viewing and reviewing the 2 fisted shane,the quick -footed castillo,and the long lanky and dangerous oscar.Think floyd would've had major problems at least with --srl(catch him too much and too easy)hearns(if you can get hit by all them other guys and dont have the power to rock tommy?? You are in trouble!)benitez...if he gave tommy problems,beat a still young duran,gave srl all he could handle...i find it hard to believe its not a TOUGH fight for floyd.
leonard ran away from hagler for the entire fight. he asked for a larger ring before the fight, and was given it. you never win a fight by running away from your opponent, turning around every so often to pretend to throw a flurry of punches., unless the judges in las vegas were bribed, and i believe they were. not a hard thing to do in las vegas at that time, [1980's], to bribe the judges.
@Ted jones I'm a US citizen, born and raised, and I knew Hagler in Boston. I watched the entire fight, and you obviously did NOT. Leonard was a coward, who didn't want to actually fight Marvin, so he pretended to fight him, by running away, and faking throwing punches a few times. The judges were bribed, and that's the only logical rational explanation for that absurd decision made by these corrupt judges.
you're an American? you don't know shit about boxing, or street fighting either, if you can watch that fight and say that I'm not an American because I say that Hagler won. that's the stupidest comment I have ever heard...
@Ted jones saw your home page. no activity on it. you're a troll with a fake ID, and probably british.
@Ted jones Google-RUclips keeps taking down my responses to your idiotic comment. you must be a paid troll, enabled by Google. how much do they pay you?
Hagler didn’t hit me too much - cause I ran for the entire fight. I never intended to bang with Marvin.
Not running. Boxiny. He landed more hits than Haglar
@@colinme2672 just quoted Leonard after the fight, he ran like a dog. If that's boxing for you, fine
He was a great BOXER and RUNNER. He was well below average as a FIGHTER.
If Leonard was running what do you call Floyd??? As long as you are throwing punches when your moving its called boxing ... Ali was the best at it!!!
@@BOLO3000 I get it, you like dancers, not punchers. Not me, man's game
Hearns dropped Leonard in there rematch twice.. that’s why it was a easy answer to that question
Always polite, smart, humourous, interesting, humble and right on the money in interviews, be they casual like this or sit down. Class act SRL.
He's phony!
Yes. He has just as much talent as Floyd Jr. They are different, but the skill level of both men are very close. Jr is a bit more defensive minded and dont take chances very often. Like Floyd jr Sugar Ray if he wanted could have gone his whole career without geting hit much by using his masterful boxing skills but he was also a warrior that would take chances and be willing to mix it up. Leonard was truly a well rounded fighter. He had it all.
leonard would knocked him out late
Imagine the excuses Floyd would come up with if Hearns or Leonard were around today
Awesome journalism reporting! Props that at first he talked about what was the reason they were all there... a total gentleman about the hold thing to ask his question later... totally kick ass!! it's the details brother well done!
Yeah, you ran around the ring against Hagler. Then you wouldn’t give him a re-match speaks volumes. I’ve watched it several times, counted points and Hagler won that fight. Period !
Wow!! The truly great Sugar ray leonard!! The man had it all! Personality, looks, articulate, and most important an absolute animal inside the ring! He was dangerous at all times even if he was losing a fight! He could outbox you and hurt you and guess what? HE FOUGHT EVERYBODY IN THERE PRIME! He did`nt wait to catch a guy when he was too old or too young & inexperienced! Ray leonard was the definition of a champion!!!
Sugar ray in his own words .... Hearns with a good chin would be very scary
Did he actually say that ?.
Amen to that about Hearn’s Chin,
He would have been the one right up their with Sugar Ray Robinson from 160 up to 175lbs.
My God could he hit.
@@hoponpop3330 uppercuts,lefthooks,body attacks,techniques,heart,best jab,power,boxing ability.....today hearns would be #1 in almost all categories..what a trip
He already is very very scary
@@hoponpop3330 I agree ask Roberto Duran who walked to the neutral corner at the end of the 1st round and had to be brought back by his corner men .
Few people are aware that Tommy Hearns broke his right hand in the first round against Marvelous Marvin Hagler. That fight will go down in history as the greatest fight of all time
Ya he was foolish to throw a punch at hagler 😂
Greatest first round ever!!
Sugar Ray looks even fresh and young and agile in this interview. Respect for him.
A favorable interview by Leonard...
However, both Hagler and Hearns were better boxer-fighter than Leonard, who was more or less cunning - and "adorable" to many.
What Leonard did have was the love and support of the promotional elites and boxing oligarchs.
Imagine the absurdity of Leonard's winning TWO titles in TWO different weight classes in the SAME fight with the SAME fighter on the SAME night - all at the SAME time!
Leonard was unjustifiably awarded victories over both Hearns and Hagler.
Nonetheless, Sugar Ray Leonard's great contributions to the noble science can never be underestimated or overlooked.
Good interview!
Wyndhl yeah you need to lay off that shit ..fast
I agree with you %100 Especially on that Donny Lalonde fight where Leonard gets two titles in two different weights in one fight many people forget that. I disagree with you on Hearns and Hagler being better boxers. Leonard was a masterful boxer otherwise both Hearns and Hagler would have beaten Leonard. You seem well knowledgeable on this so please don’t bring up the second Hearns fight. You of all people know that Leonard underestimated Hearns thinking that Hearns had nothing left. That fight was purely for money on Leonard’s part. If Leonard really wanted to fight Hearns a second time then Leonard would have given him a rematch within a year of their first fight and not wait until Hearns had grown old and was well battle scarred. Like in your synopsis Leonard was awarded a draw more on politics. He clearly lost that fight. The fact that Leonard admits that Hearns deserved the decision is more to the fact that they are friends outside the ring and Leonard truely sees Hearns as a friend.
Leonard had bigger heart then Hagler and Hearns !
Even though i loved srl as a fighter - i loved the rest of the kings more. And he did lose to tommy in the rematch. But i saw him defeating hagler. Hagler fought foolishly in the 1st half of the fight by trying to outbox leonard from an orthodox stance. He could've done better by staying mostly at southpaw.
Btw, saying srl had no skills, or less skills is a quite a statement... PRIME footwork, generalship, great jab, beautiful combinations, distance management, rope work, mobility, good defense. Ray had ALOT of mad skills. Each and every one of the 4 brought something to the table that not many ever could do better:
Duran was a prime pocket monster fighting inside and wrastling for position, also MAD iq, tommy hearns probably the only boxer i can think of that never lost a single round by boxing (other than slugging), best jab i've seen in the lower divisions and imo one of the best ever, devestating punching mechanics including the left to the body, and hagler cut the ring like no other, and was probably the best switch fighter and best southpaw boxing has ever known.
SRL clearly lost to Hearns in the second fight and SRL stayed away from Hagler except to throw those puppy punches. SRL robbed Marvin that night.
+redhead5150 I think SRL beat Hagler clearly, but totally puppy punches.
redhead I would like to see you eat a couple of those "puppy punches" idiot. What do you know about boxing? NOBODY has delivered a combination of 17 punches to Hagler.
In fact, nobody has ever been able to match Leonard's speed and combinations. Touching and not being touched is more important than hitting hard.
FreedomForce100 "Touching and not being touched is more important than hitting hard." Yes, that is how the Mayweather people love to think. But hitting hard scores more points, according to the rules of the sport. You dance around and not get hit, throw and land 10 light punches---but get knocked on your ass by ONE hard punch---you lose the round. you could land 1000 punches and get knocked out by one punch---and lose the fight. Why do you think they have a ten count? Why do you think its called fighting? I am getting tired of teaching boxing to people attempting to justify Mayweather's poor offense. Leornard was great, but he would have lost to Hagler in a regular sized ring, with normal size gloves. And he was a pussy in not giving him a rematch. Duran gave Leonard a rematch, oh, but when it came to Hagler and Hearns-----whatever.
+arvik skoynib too bad that a boxing teacher doesn't understand stylists. Like it or not, Mayweather is one of the best stylist in boxing history. Brute force will never be as pleasant and spectacular as style. The boxer recognized as the greatest in history, Muhammad Ali was a stylist. No brute force boxer can "Move like a butterfly and sting like a bee".
Didn't you see the Ali footwork that Leonard showed? That was to acknowledge his respect to the greatest and tell everyone he was one of the greatest himself.
I have taught boxing and have done competition boxing. You sound like a mediocre teacher. If you have not understood defense, you are not making your boxers safe.
What level are you teaching? Do you have an idea of the cardio required to last 12 rounds against Hagler?
Well I got news for you: Leonard's knew he had to win by points. Heavier punches would not have allowed to last 12 rounds against Hagler. You're not that dumb to get that, are you?
Regarding a rematch Leonard had made it clear BEFORE the match: ONE match.
A stylist defeated a puncher because intelligence and skills will often defeat brute force.
FreedomForce100 That has to be one of the stupidist posts I have ever seen. Gee, how did I know that you were a Mayweather jocksniffer? Ok, you are young, never watched boxing, when you started watching boxing, Mayweather was being hailed as the greatest ever and you bought into it. "Stylists." You are a boxing teacher?? Where do you teach? At a high school or college? Or one of those gyms where yuppies go? "I have taught boxing and have done competition boxing. You sound like a mediocre teacher. If you have not understood defense, you are not making your boxers safe." You are clueless and can't even pretend to know what you are talking about. No---don't try, you are not fooling anyone. That's not how it works. You've never been in a gym. Offense and defense are not separate things----you have no clue, stop. let's move on---"I've got to go to my boxing lesson" lol. Ali thought Tyson was incredible because Tyson had defense speed and power. Hearns had incredible boxing skills and could have EASILY out "styled" Mayweather. "Didn't you see the Ali footwork that Leonard showed? That was to acknowledge his respect to the greatest and tell everyone he was one of the greatest himself. " Some more idiotic talk. 1st--Leonard was a great fighter and he paid Hagler in order to accept a larger ring---so Leonard could fight his fight (stay way on the outside and not get caught). He paid Hagler to accept using larger gloves to negate Hagler's power. Hagler was greedy and accepted. Leonard had a fight plan to go out and dance and stay out of danger's way. Hagler wanted to prove that he was a better boxer than Leonard and tried to out box him and didn't fight his fight. Hagler lost. But if they would have fought in a normal sized ring, with normal sized glove, and if Hagler was not on an ego trip and fought his fight (which would have happened had SRL given him a rematch), Hagler would have done better. As for Leonard's Ali-Shuffle----people were rolling their eyes. Stop the cutesy Ali-Shuffle, stop the bolo-punching, stop the running and fight. Hagler must have said, "c'mon let's fight" 100 times in that fight. Leonard wore tassles like Ali---cute things that people who don;t know shit about boxing think are important. I can tell by the way you talk and describe boxing that you've never been a part of it (except maybe at a "boxing class" in hs. SRL is great, but this idea that this style of fighting (i.e., running) is at a better level is absurd. "Great" fighters have it all---offense AND defense. Leonard had it all, but Hagler was great too. His pussy style of winning (barely. by split decision) was bullshit. Not accepting a rematch showed that he was scared, just like not giving Hearns a rematch immediately. (But when SRL lost to Duran---SRL insisted on an immediate rematch in order to fight an untrained Duran. He did not want a trained Duran--SRL admits that this was his plan. Sure it was smart, but does not prove he was a better fighter. It was smart to insist on a large ring to run in, but he could only get a split decision and you want me to be impressed? I am done with you.
Hagler is the greatest Middleweight of all time, better then Sugar Ray Robinson. The guy has never been knocked out or knocked down, all of his losses were robberies. He should have retired undefeated. He got robbed against Willie Monroe, Bobby Watts and Sugar Ray Leonard.
AMEN!
+Mike Shea he lost to Leonard. That was his only true loss. 9 out of 12 analysts gave Leonard winner. Leonard had 49÷ contact punches vs Hagler 37÷. Leonard had also score a higher number of punches in total. Many refs and analysts who watched the match again confirmed it was not as close as we thought. Hagler clearly lost that fight. I'm an Hagler fan but I'm not biaised to the point of ignoring the obvious: Hagler was the most dominant. Leonard was the best boxer and stylist. Technically superior. No question about it.
💯
Agree he was arguably the greatest. The Leonard fight was very close though. I think Leonard won but it can be argued either way. Robbed though? No way. Also, it's hard to argue he was robbed against Willie Monroe. I think he lost the first fight fair and square. That doesn't make him any less great when you consider the circumstances under which he took that fight.
sugar ray robinson was never knocked out either and sugar ray robinson had over 200 + fights and faught in different weight classes. So you tell me, who's the greatest.......
what does he think of terry norris's punching power and hector camacho's?
When Ray Leonard was 40 and on his way out lol
I thought Sugar would've said Camacho lol
absolutely. Hagler was the aggressor and landed the harder punches. At best it was a fight that could have gone either way.
Sugar Ray went in with all of them and beat all of them with the exception of the Duran points decision which he reversed later.Not one of them stopped him.His boxing skills and movement were far superior to Haglers but he wasnt afraid to stand toe to toe with him.Sugar Ray won against them all and you aint going to change history now.
Its hard to say srl stood toe to toe with hagler because he didnt. Ray was a smart fighter and knew very well its stupid going toe to toe with hagler - so he outboxed him instead. I scored it in favor of ray, & he deserved the win IMO but saying he stood toe to toe with hagler? Wasnt the case at all.
How could Leonard know how hard Hagler can punch when he ran through out the fight.
Is that a real question? I’m a haggler fan but I’ve never heard him mentioned on an pound for pound hardest puncher lists
He’s not a P4P puncher, this was a pretty stupid question.
@@mahadkamran5914 exactly. He hit very hard for a middleweight but almost all his stoppages were from an accumulation of damage. Hearts was putting people to sleep from 147-170 with that right hand
@@barryg528 Hagler never even left middleweight, his power was not tested at higher weights. Unlike real p4p punchers like Jackson, Hearns and even McClellan.
@@mahadkamran5914 yeah. You know what I mean tho
@@barryg528 yeah I agree with you man. 100%.
great man but he was running a lot from hagler
He outboxed Hagler
John Cena He fought under the rules.
Exactly and he didn't deserve the decision, but as you say John, a great man!
The fitness training, nutrition and general sport science is much bether today. Thats something most athletes benefit from.
Thanks for the video, ESNEWS
I saw SRL vs Hagler a few weeks ago. Close fight.
SRL did what he did after a three years lay off, to face the best middleweight in the world boosting of confidence after two big victories over Hearns and Mugabi. Wow, you got to love that.
hagler was falling over his own feet in the mugabi fight. that`s why leonard came back. there was no challenge after the hearns fight
Obviously SRL was a challenge. Don't understand really what you mean about Hagler vs Mugabi, it was a hard, well fought and tough fight between to prime boxers where Hagler finally managed to break Mugabi down. To me one of Haglers finest performances.
zocker bit Still think Hagler got robbed! But I fault Hagler's people for give Leonard that huge ring!
Pretty much the best welterweight I've ever seen fight in a boxing ring. He had great
hand speed, knockout power in both hands, and great lateral movement, and tough
as nails for his smaller frame size. He beat the best of them like Hearns, Hagler and
Duran, so I don't think you can find anybody better. Maybe Mayweather Jr would give
him a good fight, but no knockout power, so Leonard would take that fight. Best all
time. He stood toe to toe with Hearns in both their fights, so people can't say he ran
from the rough stuff.
What about Roberto "Hands Of Stone" Duran?????
I’ve no time for Sugar. Marvin beat him hands down that night. I always suspected the judges. Leonard never had humility and in my book lacked what it takes to be considered one of the greats. He had a style that worked until he came up against the true greats. Judging by his ridiculous comment about Marvin not really hitting him that much, he clearly hasn’t learnt anything post retirement Watch the fight back dude and maybe the visit to the hospital afterwards was a charity gig. I’d take Marvin Hagler any day of the week and twice on Sunday over SR Leonard.
RIP MARVIN.... I THINK YOU BEAT RAY.
Spot on!! Thank you!!!👍👍
I love Sugar Ray but to beat the Champ in my opinion, You either have to knock him out or win unanomously . Its been like that since the beginning of time so i have to give that fight to Hagler.Sugar Ray at the time was more marketable and thats where the politics of boxiing came into play. That one judge who had him winning by 118 to 112 twelve must of been asleep. It was a close fight where a coin flip could of determined it and in that case the champ should retain the title...
I would ask Ray....during his fight with Hagler...did Ray ever feel he wobbled Marvin with on of his punches?! I thought I saw it during the fight, but not sure...
Round five .. uppercut.. shook him up a bit and his legs buckled. Wasn't terrible but it shook Leonard.
What a total legend and stand up guy
He was a great BOXER and RUNNER. He was well below average as a FIGHTER.
He waited until Hagler slowed down considerably before fighting him. That being said in their primes I wouldn’t want to be hit by either of them.
Time was moving the same for both of them. If Hagler slowed down, so did SRL.
Leonard also moved up in weight to fight Hagler. Hagler was a natural Middleweight. Ray was a natural welterweight.
He got hit by Hearns when Hearns was in his prime.
I just want to say that boxing 101 should just be called Sugar Ray Leonard. His first couple dozen fights were incredible. He was incredible. Someone could learn how to box while never stepping foot in a gym just by studying those fights.
He was a great BOXER and RUNNER. He was well below average as a FIGHTER.
@@jaysantos536 that makes no sense bro. but ok , I'm sure you know you are referring to the first FIGHTER ever to win titles in 5 different weight classes AND the only man to beat Hagler, Hearns, and Duran. Those are the facts.!
Thomas Hearns was best of the 4
Hagler
people these days hate on elie when he interviews 3 stooges but when he gets to interview leonard everyone gives him best reporter award
Hearns caused damage to SRL left eye in the first fight which made him retire the first time....
Detached retina.
I get a kick out of those who say a boxer "runs" from his opponent. Find someone who wants to beat your ass and get in a square ring with that person and run.
Ray Leonard is a local hero. He's a Maryland legend. Ruth,Foxx,Cal,Kaline, Belichick,Grove and Ray. Brooks, Johnny Unitas and Wes Unseld are honorary members
Hearns does hit harder than hagler but he doesn’t have the durability, chin , stamina , heart , toughness that hagler haves …
plus had Hagler winning by 7 to 5. Floyd is also strong at his weight.
So leonard clearly won the first 4 rds only won one more? Lmfao.
Leonard once said, after he retired, no one ever hit him as hard a Roberto Duran did. The great 5 title champ Vinny Pazienza said the same thing. Leonard would probably beat most of today's so called "Champs" if time could be manipulated. A lot of loudmouths today who refuse to fight top opponents who are in their prime, personally I think Mayweather Jr started this crap. Leonard fought through one of the greatest boxer/fighter eras in history, so many legends who fought each other. However, I do feel like some do, that Leonard became the boxing media & judges darling boy & was handed wins he really didn't deserve, again, a lot like Mayweather, except Leonard had the courage to stand & fight at times. This cost him against Duran, that's why he manipulated the rematch from behind the scene, didn't want Duran to 100%, & he certainly wasn't going to stand toe to toe with Roberto again. But, Duran bears responsibility for his weight gain he couldn't remove properly, & it cost him to this day, as that's the only fight out of 119 career bouts of this great legend casuals seem to remember. End of line.
hagler didnt hit him that much?
roberto duran did
He really didn't. Ray largely made him miss all night. Sure, a few connected, but like Ray says here, "Hagler didn't hit me that much". It's true.
your blind
You can't hit someone who is running from you like a scared little girl.
Hagler had him hurt bad in the 9th
SRL would wipe the floor with Floyd
Ray was smart & waited until Hagler was old & at the end of his career. If him & Hagler would have fought between 82 to 84 it would have been a different outcome
Leonard was older too and came out of retirement. So your comment is mute
@@motorcitycobra8875 The point I'm making is that 82 thru 84 were Haglers best years, Duran, Hearns can attest to that. Hagler had slowed down noticeably by the time Leonard was ready to fight him ( it was Haglers last fight). Duran beat Leonard in there first fight & Hearns caused Leonard to suffer the detached retina. Hagler ran thru them both
Hagler beat Leonard but Sugar is the best P4P fighter of all the 'Fab Four'.
He fought de la Hoya in his prime...and destructed , Mosley....and FYI hearns, hagler, and Leonard were all middleweights in their prime...hagler is made for Floyd.....his hardest test would be hearns actually...
True Legend in every sense
He was a great BOXER and RUNNER. He was well below average as a FIGHTER.
He would of never beaten any of the 4 cause he would of avoided them till they got old or beaten. he will be remembered as the greatest cherry picker to ever fight.
Yea boxing back then was cool not saying I'm from that era but what I have seen is that they were all down to fight each other not like what goes on in boxing floyd never really fought some one in there prime
he said the right thing. Hagler coudn't hit hard because he fought Sugar with big gloves, as requested by Leonard.
Hagler actually is more of an arm puncher than a snap puncher, unless he was fighting a much taller opponent when he had to leap in with his punches to reach them, thus putting his weight behind them, tall opponents like Hearns and Obel.
As Gil Clancy commented, Hagler has strong arms but he is a “clubber”, he does not have too much snap in his punches, he seldom knocked his opponents out cold, but usually seared them down with accumulated punishment.
I was no big Sugar Ray supporter but in his prime
he was lighting quick/twitch compared to most fighters I watch, and would be an absolute handful for anyone today in his weight class.
It would take todays P4P best guys to get it done and beat that’s for sure and really that’s only a maybe. In fact, he’s the perfect opponent for Mayweather due to his speed, movement and punch accuracy and output.
Even a prime Hitman Hearns making the lighter weights today with his tall build and reach, plus he had like 50 KO’s
I think they would both clean house at these junior welterweight or welterweight divisions now that I think of it, had great effective styles during their prime years fighting
Too much background noise
Soccer and boxing are different sports.
where you from man ? I am a Scottish boxing expert and know what I'm talking about. Leonard could box side to side, forward and on the back foot as well.
Leonard didn't want to give Hagler his props.
Hagler didn't hit him much. Ray's defense was great in that fight and every time Hagler looked like he had him hurt, Ray flurried and actually backed Marvin up. Thomas on the other hand in both of their fights hit Ray hard, dead on with great right hands, putting him down twice.
It was the jab of Hearns that id the real damage in the first fight.
Your right but boxing isn't the same as talking about basketball or football. the training regiment is the same from the 80's. boxers lift weights but not the same extent as other sports. boxing is an art it is the same as a lawyer or doctor it is a 'practice' to perfect it.
Protected by people who love sugar.
HAGLER won that fight, but Ray was the Greatest welter of all time
SRL lost to Duran in the 1st fight, then he ran all night in the 2nd fight, and many feel he got gift decisions over Hearns (in the 2nd fight) and Hagler. Also he wouldn't fight Pryor.
ray leonards a great guy too!
That's because they fought the best and didn't take care of themselves. Flyod know who and when to chose his next opponent.
My point was that there are flaws in SRL's resume as well. Like it or not, SRL and Mayweather are similar in a lot of ways. Not similar with their styles of boxing, but with the way they approached the business aspect of the sport.
As for who's more talented or who would beat who, its a dumb argument because there's no real way to gauge unless they both fought each other in their primes which of course is impossible. But I think they both would have given each other a tough fight.
To be the best ever you have to fight the very best
i dont have floyd beating leonard, hearns, pea or even meldrick taylor for that matter. the average level of cometition was much stronger back then. even floyd snr has alluded to this on several occasions.
i agree with Aaron
The 100 m sprinter , ran whole night against hagler
The thing is Leonard didn't let Hagler hit him that much and performed Ali's stick & move in prrfection, so ...
Could barely hear this video.
Except the argument made in boxing by many, especially the Mayweathers, is that the skill-set has declined amongst most. There were so many Gyms, so many fighters, so many Teachers, that it was easier to sharpen your skills because you were around the best. Even today's fighters say they see a difference when they are able to get in camp with other top quality fighters. That used to happen daily back in the day. NY, Philly, Detroit were loaded with talent....an that made you better.
I still contend that his Hagler bout was a fix.
Hagler didn't hit me that much??? Hagler got some viscous shots on Ray. Man what a put down. They still don't like each other.
Hagler didn't hit him much because he ran the whole fight, I too would think Ray would say Hearns hit harder, because Tommy with those long arms hit Ray good. I wonder what Tommy would say if asked who hit harder Ray or Marvin. We will never know how Floyd would do against, a fighter of these guys caliber because Floyd would never fight anyone of these guys caliber.
+Eric Day
ya even if there was a time machine Floyd would find a million reasons to avoid Hearns.
ROA Absolutely and he will always suffer when compared to the greats. I pulled up a fight between Marvin and John Mugabi and what a war that was.
+Eric Day
oh ya Mugabi gave it his all.
Absolutely they used to fight, now it is run around for twelve rounds and act like you out pointed the guy, it is really a joke anymore.
Duran got tired and annoyed of having to chase this lame guy
I loved all 3 fighters but Hagler threw the fight vs Sugar
Hagler would never throw a fight , he was that disgusted he retired never to lace up the gloves again
@@goinfishinalba9811 I would’ve thought the same, but I’ve watched the sugar Ray fight over and over, and I compared that Hagler to the one who destroyed the Hit Man Hearns, the Beast Mugabi and I can’t help but believe he threw the fight to sugar Ray.. everyone has their price
Hit man hearns gotta be the hardest whacker. Leonard hearns benitez duran were all fantastic pound for pound fighters . All fought successfully at different weights. None of that for hagler, he stayed in his comfort zone. He never went up in weight to fight saad muhammid.Yes hagler was a magnificent natural middleweight . He should have been able to blast out leonard in 7 rounds. Leonard brain and hand speed beat haglers brawn. Leonard was like the SAS special forces thinking solider ,uding his brain to beat brute force.
Leonard would beat Floyd. True legend right there.
SRL was too good for the great Hagler. Who else could have come back after a long lay off and beat the champion ? Yes , no one else
Spot-on there! NOBODY could have done what Ray did, especially when it comes to almost without question, the best middleweight champ for a long time in Marvin Hagler.
You have to be trolling, Hagler clearly won the fight and the decision was given to SRL to try and set up a money making trilogy.
('clearly' you are most definitely wrong!)
Fuck u should have asked better questions from a guy that fought one of the greatest fighters of all time.....Hands of stone, Roberto Duran
Listen. I dont like Floyd Jr but it has to be said Ray was losing by along margin in the first Hearns fight and got his ass kicked in the second.
Mayweather is great. But in todays era it is about the promotion and the money, not so much the legacy to SOME boxers. I miss the days the titans would clash and really test who the best TRULY was. But how are we suppose to judge who the greatest fighters of todays era are without them fighting eachother? How? Compare them to fighters that are linked to other fighters? That is fuckin sad, Its disgusting actually. Its become...pathetic. But I will still watch floyd till the end.
srl fought and won against duran, hearns and hagler. nuf said. floyd has a good resume but a lot of his fights dont mean much anymore. struggled against judah, cotto, and de la hoya. wouldnt fight pacquiao. the only thing that makes him relevant is his 0 loss.
That would be a great fight !
Sugar Ray outboxed and outclassed Hagler in the fight. It’s a simple as that. Barring Muhammad Ali he was the greatest boxer. That does not detract from the skills of Hagler, Hearns & Duran. All of them all time greats of boxing.
Leonard Hearns Hagler to strong for Mayweather. Mayweather is a legend but that was a different era. You can't compare era's
I don't know about that, you can compare but maybe not conclusively.
Duran has the most impressive wins, P4P best.
Ray Leonard did hit pretty hard himself
you are a straight hater, floyd fought more champions in a row than any other fighter in history and has been a champion longer. he's fought high caliber fighters and made them look bad and im a boxing fanatic, Hearns wouldve presented Floyd with the biggest problems but he would have beaten all of those guys in my opinion. Hagler had major defensive deficiences, leonards plan A,B,& C was speed and he was easy to lead into trap. i'm down for this conversation with anyone.
Haggler didn’t hit me much??? Yeah but you didn’t want a rematch either???
Leonard is humble but he would all of the fighters today, inc
Sugar Ray won the Hagler fight. I saw it back when it happened. Opinions through the passage of time have made Hagler the winner to some people. I guess since Sugar Ray was so popular and marketable that somehow made some people think there wasn't substance to him. But he is pound for pound the best boxer I have ever seen.