I'm 50 and recently I've got back in to MTB-ing ideal since I live in the Surrey Hills. well so I thought, while doing gravity trails was fun I was knackered trying to get back to the top. That was until I gave in and bought my first Ebike, what a game changer I'm up and down Surrey Hills like a bloody YoYo now and my fitness is increasing thanks to the amount of riding I can now do. So for me its Ebike's all the way......Bring on the hills!!
My brother has a $40,000 bass boat and on top of all the fishing gear it costs $150 every time he takes it out! In perspective the ebikes are a great deal for a hobby you love! Plus they have all the health benefits!
51 years old, on mtbs since 1991. i began to feel bored by fireroad-climbs and the few nice trails in my region and focused on roadbiking for some years. Bought an e-MTB as an experiment and was overwhelmed what game-changer this is to the trails in my region and how much fun tech-climbs are. I spend more hours on the bike than in the 90ties, having more fun with same level of exhaustion. Yes, sometimes I do a tour with my humble hardtail, more or less to prove i can still do it. But the tool for fitness and fun is electrified,no debate for me.
I have mild asthma and was struggling to keep up with my friends. Inhaler didnt really help. I eventually got fed up being left for dead and could no longer go out with them. so I bit the bullet and bought an ebike. I can now keep up with them. It's got nothing to do with being unfit. The body is simply getting older. Not happy with the prices of ebikes though.
Feel your pain,I too have late onset asthma,have been mountainbiking for years and as Asthma gets worse am totally thinking of getting an ebike just to keep riding regularly.
I don't think me or my partner would have ever owned a bike again in our lives until we rented out some e bikes on holiday abroad.Once we got home both me and my partner both purchased an e bike (Giant fathom E+3 for me,Liv Val E+3 for her) and we love them,they add a level of fun you just don't seem to get on a normal bike. Ok we don't go up mountains and we just potter about on them really but at least it gets us out and about more and in turn adds a bit more exercise into our lives,which can only be a good thing.
Maybe the most helpful video I have seen. The idea that riding an ebike may lead to riding my regular mountain bike more is huge. I’m buying a levo comp this week but I have a great fs already. I was thinking I was retiring it but now I’m thinking that buying the ebike is really like getting my old bike back as well. I’m 46 and 225 in the pennsylvania mountains. That initial push to get into shape when I only have big mountain uphills on every ride is tough. The idea that the ebike will break the ice and get me fit enough to have fun on my regular bike again is a big idea. As you have said in your video it’s about having fun.
I’ve been mountain biking for the last 6 years , I had to have major heart surgery back in December 2018 and now have a mechanical Aortic valve . I bought a 2018 Specialised Levo carbon in August 2018 to keep my heart rate lower and still enjoy getting up the hills to enjoy the downhills , after my operations I bought the 2019 model in February 2019 , and was back on the bike within 7 weeks. I would definitely recommend anyone recovering from major surgery to buy an E-Bike and you will definitely recover quickly , I set my bike with 10 percent assist to get a good workout so I think I’ll be getting the levo SL next . I’m aged 63 and ride with a mixed age of riders and slowly the E-Bikes are appearing , setting my power assist to 10 percent means I can be out all day and stay as part of the group and getting a good workout .
Fitness is a big factor. Got into MTB's in my 50's and realised quickly how unfit I was. 15 min rides in my local hills was killing me, so I wasn't riding because it just wasn't fun. Pondered eMTB's for years before taking the plunge, and have zero regrets. One hour rides no problem, and have stepped back assistance as fitness has improved. I've since added a hardtail MTB for flatter rides. Love them both!
The wife and I bought an E fatbike each for winter riding and local commuting here in Canada BC. Groomed single track night rides or punting up to the ski hill are the best. We use them for training too for when we can use our other full suspension bikes in summer. It's either shuttles or earn your turns where we are with bikes parks in an hour vicinity of us. They make so much sense around here.
Purchased a used Scott Espark “for my wife” to reintroduce her into MTB. Not only can we ride together now, which is an amazing benefit, but I am finding that I will use her bike once a week and it allows me to have a more fun recovery day in between rides on my IBIS Ripmo. An unexpected benefit, therefore, to having an ebike. MORE miles per week and time on the trail. Plus it adds a new dynamic to rides I have known for years. That too is an unexpected benefit. I am convinced I am VERY fortunate to be in this sport during an era when the products are evolving to allow older riders like me (56) a way to remain deeply involved and active, and able to ride along with my 24 year old son and his mates... I am now a solid fan of the eMTB and look forward to further development.
I have a hard tail MTB and since watching this channel converted over to a giant trance e+2. I use both but can honestly say that the ebike is so much more fun ! Keep up the good work embn !
Loved the vid. Me, the hairy monster as interviewed, loved the balanced chat. Morgage the kids and get an e bike now before Carona beer becomes an issue
I wasn't sold on the eMTB concept until I rode one, I was convinced at that point. I sold my dirt bike a week later and searched high and low until I found a brand new 2020 Cannondale Habit with the Bosch Gen 4 motor. I now ride much faster up-hill and I ride much further and ride much more often, it really is a great deal of fun. I also commute to work on my eMTB.
Interesting and very timely. I just had my first ride on my new hardtail e-mountain bike, never ridden one before! I’m 70 this year and I think it’ll make me fitter than riding my hardtail which is very light but isn’t much fun riding up the hills. Maybe it’s the novelty but I think I’ll find it more fun covering say 30+ hilly miles rather than 20. At the end of the day it’s up to you how much effort you put in, but on hilly stuff you’re still always going to get a workout on an e-bike. I’ll still keep my regular MTB for flatter tracks though. Do I wish I’d bought one a few years earlier? - no, but I feel the time is now right. I’ll also stick with my road bike. It’s very light and there’s something special about riding on good roads without big hills with no assistance.
An ebike hater told me that I was cheating with my ebike (we werent even competing) so I turned my motor off and beat him anyway because I get 3 rides a week and he only goes out 1. What a pitiful attitude to have. Ebikes and Normal bikes are awesome. Just love them and have fun!
For me I thought exactly the same. But then I thought about the health benefits and shopped around for pay monthly interest free and to be honest there was a great choice so now I own an Ebike and have to say worth every penny for the fun factor and health benefits.
@@01Peebee10 so it is probably monthly salary? For me it means 4 months of working and for many people 8 on the and you say it is expensive for you ???
The answer is get both. Some days you just give your non cycling friends the ebike and show them how much fun you can have out there while you chase them on the acoustic. I call ebikes smile machines because you cant help but to have a riot out there.
I was totally against EMTB's for all the ususal reasons....... then I hired one to try and it was absolutely brilliant! I still haven't bought one but its really only a matter of time.
Hi Steve at EMBN. I will be 70 in September. I have always cycled but only recently bought a "normal " mountain bike. It's a Lapierre zesty 5.9. I love it but the climb to the top was killing me and especially when out with my sons. I am now awaiting a Trek Rail to be delivered hopefully this week. I can't wait. Had a wee shottie on my son in laws Trek and was immediately converted. I'm keeping the Zesty as having different bike options is the way to go. Keep up the great work.
My first ebike ride last week- new skills needed pedal assist requires better gear selection and anticipation of terrain- super planted - big fun - more thrills per hour due to uphill rates achieved. Fun time v run time ratio is the equation you need to ask yourself! Once bitten forever smitten 🤩
I purchased my emtb late last year to complement my analog riding, absolutely love both bikes and since I have been riding both, both disciplines have got noticeably better, it's a 2 bike world now, you can buy two very good bikes, analog and emtb for less than the new Levo sl, end of the day, just get out there and ride bikes and have fun!!.
It's all about price. You may be able to afford a mid range mountain bike with all the bells and whistles but a similarly priced e-bike isn't going to have the same features. Until the cost comes down, most of us will continue riding traditional mtbs.
There’s always the DIY retrofit option, (bafang, etc). You get to keep the bike you love and configure the motor and battery however you like. I electrified my Trek Farley and it’s a game changer. It cost $800 for the parts.
Good video as always, i must admit ive been considering E bike for last 18 months, price kept scaring me off and would i like it enough. I kept my 10 year old Trek and purchased a Trek Rail 9 E bike and love it, dont regret it and now do double the distance i used to and found new trails i would never have gone to before. Dont delay you will love it.
I've been MTBing for years now, the last few on a 650B Cannondale Habit and I decided to take the ebike plunge and bought a Habit Neo 29er. I love riding both of them. I have great fun now charging up bits of trail which were only enjoyable as descents before when I'm on the ebike and I still go back to the unpowered Habit regularly for its playfulness and lack of inertia.
E-bike all the way, sold my regular mtb as it was not as fun. People complaining about price need to learn to haggle. My 2020 bike is still on sale for £3799 in shops but I got it for £3100 brand new before 2020! Huge discounts to be had if you shop around.
I'm not against the idea of getting an E-MTB, however, let me play devil's advocate here for a bit. I realize that cost is the limiting factor for most of us to get an E-MTB, but in a few short years, I can foresee the prices coming down as more developments are made and more manufacturers jump onto the bandwagon. So that is a short term problem. The longer term problem, as I see it, is user serviceability. Most motors nowadays are sealed and not serviceable at all, just taking em apart by yourself voids the warranty. Hell, Shimano motors are the only motors I know of which you can update the firmware yourself. Just bring it to a service center, you say? This might not be possible for some of us, and others might have their own reasons to work on their bikes themselves. The bike industry has always given us the option to wrench on our own bikes, without fear of voiding warranties(unless you're a real special breed of dumbass). Why have they taken away this option for E-MTBs? Then there's the problem of finding spare parts for your motor, battery or the like. Your motor is out of warranty and it just blew. As the motor is out of warranty, you take it apart, locate the faulty part, and try to search for it online. Only to have nothing turn up. Your only option now is to get a completely new motor. This is in stark contrast with the rest of what's on your bike. You can get any spare part for almost any component you care to name. Broken the cage of your derailleur? There's a spare derailleur cage which you can easily buy out there. Exploded the damper on your fork? No problem, just order another damper online. Not everyone of us can afford to buy a completely new motor, or fork, just to keep riding. And we have that option with the fork, but not the motor. Lastly, there's the issue of upgradability. Most people can build and customize their bikes however they like. There's a wide selection of fork, shock, handlebars, stems, drivetrain, wheels, brakes, you name it, for the person to choose to spec on their bikes. However, for E-MTBs, you're stuck with whatever motor and battery came on your bike. Don't like it? Too bad. Wanna upgrade your battery to that larger capacity one that brand just announced? Yea, not happening, you peasant. Unless you go buy a new bike with that. As such, even if my country suddenly decided to lift all the heavy restrictions on electric modes of transport tomorrow, I'll just sit on my arse for that bit longer to see where the E-MTB industry is going. Again, I'm not against getting an E-MTB. I just want to ensure that it's an sound investment which I do not have to throw away after X number of years. TL;DR: Give us the right the repair everything on our E-bikes, and the option to upgrade everything as well.
I agree that the motor is the issue everything else is self-serviceable. Perhaps someone (EMBN !) should push the motor companies to offer an exchange refurbed motor at an affordable cost.......they used to do this with car gearboxes / engines. Maybe a big opening for an entrepreneurial person / company.
I love to ride anything! In my mid 60s I find myself riding more often as I need to limit my running. With a good balance of riding for fitness and pleasure I love riding on roads and fire roads where 90 minutes get me 20-25 miles but when I venture out on my mtn bike that drops significantly. Same great workout just don’t get to see as much scenery. So, that’s why I’m considering an e mtn bike. Went out with a friend on one and it was great fun, still a great workout and covered lots of ground. Also made the climbs a fun challenge instead of a grueling grind. Love your channel, Thank you! 👍😎
I own two MTB's (actually tree with my winter bike) a full susprension for all round fun and a hard tail for more trail runs with the family, and just love them. My next bike however will be an EMTB without question! I want to be able to clinb up my mountain more that two times before running out of gas. It is that simple. The new Levo SL looks quite impressive for this purpose.
I really like both. I have 2 very different mt bikes, a 53 lb Canyon spectral ON, and a 24.5 lb Intense Sniper with 100mm travel ft and rear. The EMTB scratches one itch, the Intense takes care of the need to ride a really light bike and do big climbs.
The UK is much more sophisticated than here in the States, Most MTB trails prohibit EMTB riders on them, well at least in my state. But the EBike is permitted on most biking trails with a power & speed limit. I'm 62 & opted for the EBike to get some much needed workouts & know I can get back home or to my vehicle.
We initially bought bikes as an addition to our other bikes however during the last 15 months since owning them , slowly but surely they have become the only bike we ride . The area we live is the east coast of Suffolk , fantastic XC terrain however its gravity DH or Enduro type trails we love . E-bikes have totally transformed our ride experiences around here and enable us to get just so much enjoyment now, either sessioning or riding great areas we have developed that make so much sense on ebikes. We now have trails that feature great up hill technical climbs that wouldn't be possible on a normal bike linking loads of great punchy DH descents . To put it simply we now get all the fun the guys in mountain areas get and haven't lost fitness either !! Here's the big plus though, we reckon ebikes are driving us to make more fantastic trails which are now being used by all other segments of mountain bikers ! Win win win
I'm 66 and kind of a heavy fellow. Bought an eBike and now I'm riding with much younger and fast bikers and having a lot of fun. And also I'm riding more my road bike and my regulat mtb than before.
Went through all the usual mental twists and turns about Ebikes. Put it off for years, but a couple of years ago when recovering from a bad MTB crash, I was trying to get fit and went to Afan just to do the climbs. Spent ages climbing to the top of Penhydd and two lads breezed up on ebikes, we had a chat at the top and they said they could Penhydd and The Wall in one evening. No longer a consideration for me after that. Climbing is a nice challenge and a great sense of achievement, but we go up cos we want to go down. I took delivery of a Canyon Spectral ON last week and it is the nuts. One shakedown ride then popped of to see one of my riding mates who I can only keep up with providing I stay on top of my weight and injury free (which is not as often as I’d like). We went out for a quick blast and while I was quicker than him using assistance, I was still knackered at the end of it. Then today I went out for another quick spin and did another 1.5 hours and burned 1000 calories that, in all honesty, I wouldn’t have done on my unassisted Bike. It’s not a substitute for normal bikes, but it’s early days yet and I can see the Ebike getting a lot more action than the others.
The main question for me is, can the moter (in eco mode) significantly (over-)compensate the weight difference, especially at steep parts of a trail. it would be interesting and helpful to have a kind of weight-motor-ratio to make the decision easier. I tend to invest more money in a very light MTB than into a 21kg eMTB.
In my case as a mature returning rider, the only option was an e-bike, even though I have a higher level of fitness now than 20 years ago. If they were not available or as developed as they currently are, then my only option would have been to continue to ride a motor bike. The e-bike allows me to explore further and to more places than I could on a peddly, plus I'm not really interested in putting my bike on a float to take it to the top of the hill and then free-wheeling to the bottom :-) As to cost, fortunately the motor-bike I sold covered most of the outlay.
I love emtb's.......but the biggest hurdle is the price.....£5000 for a levo an most of the good other makes ...it's a big investment... people are waiting for prices to come down....but I don't think they will....an if you bought a bike in 2019 you will be kicking yourself because all the 2020 bikes are so much better...it's a big question
I live in Colorado and most and many trails here outlaw emt. bikes. I’m 65 and have son-in-laws their 40’s. I would love to be able to keep up with an emt. bike but trail rules don’t allow it. Hopefully the regulatory decision makers will change their mind over time as they did with regards to allowing mt. Bikes on trails decades ago.
Trevor Case that’s smart. I believe the rules will change because there will be many more ebike riders eventually. Ebikes will be the majority in the future. Your leading the way.
I presented an Emtb with an interesting thought. What if the money they spent on an Emtb they instead spent on something as light as possible? Granted they wouldn't be as quick up hill but everywhere else? It made them think!
I have both. The feeling of the endorfines of the normal bike will never be replaced by a motor since there is no severe fatique in the second. Comfortable to commute with an ebike but the feeling of a mechanical bike is irreplaceable
I enjoyed my full suspension giant trance for a few years. It was a good workout and decent fun. Now at 43 I just bought my first emtb hardtail. It has opened up a whole new level of riding and for me anyway they are just much more fun. Still a good workout and as bizarre as this is my emtb was more affordable 😂. I definitely think regular mtb should come down in price spending 5-10k in 2024 on a non-motorized mtb is just absurd. Manufacturers really need to think hard about how much they are charging now that emtb are here.
I was going to give up commuting because i was tire off climbing my hill everyday, I test rode an e mountain bike , loved it, bought it, and now my commute is a happy one. I can use as much battery power as I want. Some days i us a little, someways I us a lot. But because of my E mountain bike, i am still cycling commuting.
Only thing holding me off a eMTB is I can't fly with it from Europe to AUS and back. Like Cape Town, parts where I ride don't have uplifts and there are some great down hill tracks but you have to winch yourself back up them and a few runs and you're knackered. eMTB would be ideal in these cases and being a solo rider who like to explore ...
Both! Giant Anthem X3 29er and Trek Rail 5 625. If the Rail 5 weighed 12kg I would use only that. All bikes are expensive now, not 'overpriced' as people are paying those prices. Good value? What value fun and fitness? How much for gym membership? Lower power lighter emtbs, well, there's a debate! Possibly the 'sweet spot'!
I`m 47 and my country is flat. So my choise - continue use my Commencal meta AM 2015 for fun and fitness. And spent my 3700$ for Sur Ron Lite B. With this toy i have 40-60 km\h downhill everywhere a want) I even can ride with motor bikes on amateure MX and enduro tracks.
I got multiple spine injuries so the e-bike was a no brainer for me. Before I bought my e-bike I could only ride 4 mile before my back just couldn’t take it any more. After I got my turbo levo it was on. Now I can ride up to 30 miles a ride in the Sierra mountains with 2000’ of elevation change like it’s nothing.
@@mrbigfoot554 Yes and I like how enormous first gear mtb has for easy riding. If battery goes dead emtb first gear looks more like something in the middle of mtb, you will never get back home. And off it goes after 40-60 km or less, so often time you better ride with the motor off your heavy emtb to have some reserve at the end
@@MarkoPetejan For my style of riding, enduro, a battery helps you get up the hill, but can change your center of gravity to something you are not used to at all, and you have to change your body positioning to fit the location and weight. I rented a Specialized Turbo Levo Expert and it is a good bike, just e-mtbs are not my sort of
I was always more into riding dirt bikes, mtb was fun but the hills...I recently switched to emtb and can't stop grinning when I ride. Being able to keep a faster more consistent pace uphill is huge and makes it feel a lot more like I'm back on my dirt bike riding single track.
Hello David. I'm 49 and and still have two old motorbikes, so I think we can relate. When I had my dog I used my mountain bike a lot. I miss that sort of offroad riding. I have a great "normal" bike. Just don't really use it. Due to your experience, what kind of mtb would you advise for a small guy (172cm / 78kg)? As a technician I don't want anything with electronics. I have enough of that at work. I would like something with extremely good suspension. My price around 3k+ Euros. I live in Germany. Would appreciate an answer. Internet info has cooked my brain.
I would love to get an ebike but the law, here in Sweden, is still a bit unclear whether you are permitted to use ebikes on the trails or not. It seems like you need permission from the person who owns the land to ride.
Here too. The fine can be 80 EUR, I would gladly pay it, forget about it and continue exploring. In my mind its fair use and a human right to have access to nature. (Finland is such case, I believe.) I really don't care about the law or feelings, as long as you respect nature and you are there to enjoy it. Your well-being comes first.
After spending a lifetime riding, racing and contributing to the coolest magazine on the planet (that Jones was the editor of) I can honestly say e bike all the way. They jump, manual, rail turns and allow you to climb super tech uphills. As far as cost goes there's non e bikes that cost the same amount as eeeessss. I'm not justifying the price of certain e bikes. In fact I think they are extortionate. However there are entry level options that will fill the majority of riders needs from novice to pro. Steve 'the butcher'
Great job you guys are doing @EMTB, so entertaining, keep on! I didn't know your channel before I got my first eMTB just half a year ago (can you imagine?), bought the Scott Patron just due to their marketing, quite naive, I know. But what a good choice though, it is ridiculously fun to go uphill, Jesus! Sometimes I don't even feel that I am already sweating, so confirm, sill sports, but love forgetting that while just enjoying. Fantastic tool, 21st century rocks!
It’s like comparing a sledge and a skidoo …. I think mtb and emtb are completely different sports. Ones not better than the other. I get fitter and more of an endorphin rush from my mtb, I use my emtb more cause it’s more fun, I can go further, explore more, and with covering more ground, become a better biker.
Climb the rock face or take the cable car, run a marathon or take the car, swim across a lake or take the boat, smash the trail on an MTB or do it on an ebike? You can have fun on an ebike but at the end of the day I couldn't take any credit for smashing a trail, I would have to give it to the motor. I'll get an ebike at some point because of my age but you won't see me posting my times on strava pretending that I did it on an MTB.
I’ve just got the Haibike HardSeven 0.1 2020, and love it,travel to work and found myself wanting to go further,and the three peaks are more or less in my garden so might try bike them..great videos by the way guys 👍👍👍
If I had no bike I would get an e-bike or a gravel bike as a first choice. Once the battery runs out your pushing the bike home. Yes the e-MTB will challenge steeper terrain for any fitness level. I’m actually downgrading my carbon fiber hardtail Giant MTB to a more narrow tire to create a more versatile all rounder for dirt trails and longer x-country rides that could include pavement? Is the e-MTB more capable yes! At a price, you’re buying into a technology that is quickly evolving. If I had $5;000 to burn then I could purchase an mid-drive eMTB. Specialized is probably 2 years ahead of everyone? So safe to say, that in three years you’ll get the same specialized bike that costs $7k for half the price. Why, economy of scales; the more units sold the cheaper the bikes become, plus battery technology is rapidly developing. I just don’t think there is a huge value in today’s power assist eMTB. Call me a skeptic? If you want a go anywhere bike get a 250cc + dirt bike and it will climb anything go anywhere at insane speeds enough for not a whole lot more money than a high end eMTB. I’m holding off for 2-3 years before I go e-anything. I looked at the Bafang mid-drive kits, but decided no. Now I’m going Schwalbe g-one all around tubeless. Rotational weight makes a big difference on how a bike rolls. Once the battery dies on an eMTB you have a 50 pound bag of dog food with wheels.
Don't knock it, if EMBM don't get help from bike manufacturers and bike product manufacturers, there is no EMBN. That what makes the world go round. PS I'm not a Specialised fan!
Have a carbon trek remedy which I use for keeping fit , couple of people I ride with have Emountain bikes , find it hard to justify spending north of £6k to get an equivalent spec Ebike which is really off road motorcycle money for a cycle . Interest rates on the finance deals are incredibly high so it’s off putting and while I’d like to think I’d make good use of An ebike I worry power assist would just detract from my fitness goals and not deliver strength building workouts Seems a shame they just cost so much to buy and finance really 🤷♂️
Skinny guy: Driving a MTB - Not so skinny guy: driving an EMTB. :D Jokes aside; I want to stark biking again and I can't decide which one to choose - E or no E, this is the question.
My brother has a $40,000 bass boat and on top of all the fishing gear it costs $150 every time he takes it out! In perspective the ebikes are a great deal for a hobby you love! Plus they have all the health benefits!
Steve asks for our thoughts and simply in my case being on a minimum wage with a family they are out of reach for some people at this time. Definately one is in my future though.
Stop wasting your time trying to convince the non believers. Its their loss! Put your effort into your videos and features for those who appreciate them!
In all fairness, if you're just starting out, I'd get a regular MTB. You need to know how it feels reacts and how to fix it. You'll be doing more fixing and maintenance on an ebike.
ride an ebike for a few weeks then jump back on your mtn bike. tell me how fit you are. #1 warranty ,integrated,if that motor melts down you got a very expensive paper weight. #2 Go modular, dual sport never be without your bike. kranked bikes
haha so is Yohan an ex roadie with his lycra kit on :) seriously though not quite ready for an Emtb just based on the fact that the missus would devorce me spending 5 grand plus on a Emtb...
Not long bought a trek remedy 7 would have liked to have purchased a emtb full sus but it's to expensive. Mainly because my wife beat me to it a bought a liv emtb so I have to wait
Since I got my Levo my beloved Yeti is lonely and unused. Just have so much more fun on the Levo, nothing against the Yeti. So Yeti will be sold and I want to find it a good new forever home.
Bought an ebike late last year and it is the best thing since sliced bread !........ loving ebiking!
I'm 50 and recently I've got back in to MTB-ing ideal since I live in the Surrey Hills. well so I thought, while doing gravity trails was fun I was knackered trying to get back to the top. That was until I gave in and bought my first Ebike, what a game changer I'm up and down Surrey Hills like a bloody YoYo now and my fitness is increasing thanks to the amount of riding I can now do. So for me its Ebike's all the way......Bring on the hills!!
I'm in the same situation as you, I've tried an e-MTB and loved it, I just haven't taken the plunge yet.
Hey Pete
what sort of e bike would you recommend for box hill area or is a non E better idea? It's my first MTN bike im from a road back ground, fit.
At more than twice the price its definitely a sport for the rich
Game changer 🙌
@@chefgav1 not twice price about the same when u get into mid range spec
My brother has a $40,000 bass boat and on top of all the fishing gear it costs $150 every time he takes it out! In perspective the ebikes are a great deal for a hobby you love! Plus they have all the health benefits!
Health yes but till the time you crush....😆
51 years old, on mtbs since 1991. i began to feel bored by fireroad-climbs and the few nice trails in my region and focused on roadbiking for some years. Bought an e-MTB as an experiment and was overwhelmed what game-changer this is to the trails in my region and how much fun tech-climbs are. I spend more hours on the bike than in the 90ties, having more fun with same level of exhaustion. Yes, sometimes I do a tour with my humble hardtail, more or less to prove i can still do it. But the tool for fitness and fun is electrified,no debate for me.
I have mild asthma and was struggling to keep up with my friends. Inhaler didnt really help. I eventually got fed up being left for dead and could no longer go out with them. so I bit the bullet and bought an ebike. I can now keep up with them. It's got nothing to do with being unfit. The body is simply getting older. Not happy with the prices of ebikes though.
Feel your pain,I too have late onset asthma,have been mountainbiking for years and as Asthma gets worse am totally thinking of getting an ebike just to keep riding regularly.
Yeah I'm in the same boat and almost every rider I know has an ebike so I ride by myself till I can afford one
Ebike all day long. Ride faster for longer. Speed is FUN.
They're more like a 125 & so FN Fun to ride!
I don't think me or my partner would have ever owned a bike again in our lives until we rented out some e bikes on holiday abroad.Once we got home both me and my partner both purchased an e bike (Giant fathom E+3 for me,Liv Val E+3 for her) and we love them,they add a level of fun you just don't seem to get on a normal bike.
Ok we don't go up mountains and we just potter about on them really but at least it gets us out and about more and in turn adds a bit more exercise into our lives,which can only be a good thing.
Maybe the most helpful video I have seen. The idea that riding an ebike may lead to riding my regular mountain bike more is huge. I’m buying a levo comp this week but I have a great fs already. I was thinking I was retiring it but now I’m thinking that buying the ebike is really like getting my old bike back as well. I’m 46 and 225 in the pennsylvania mountains. That initial push to get into shape when I only have big mountain uphills on every ride is tough. The idea that the ebike will break the ice and get me fit enough to have fun on my regular bike again is a big idea. As you have said in your video it’s about having fun.
I’ve been mountain biking for the last 6 years , I had to have major heart surgery back in December 2018 and now have a mechanical Aortic valve . I bought a 2018 Specialised Levo carbon in August 2018 to keep my heart rate lower and still enjoy getting up the hills to enjoy the downhills , after my operations I bought the 2019 model in February 2019 , and was back on the bike within 7 weeks. I would definitely recommend anyone recovering from major surgery to buy an E-Bike and you will definitely recover quickly , I set my bike with 10 percent assist to get a good workout so I think I’ll be getting the levo SL next . I’m aged 63 and ride with a mixed age of riders and slowly the E-Bikes are appearing , setting my power assist to 10 percent means I can be out all day and stay as part of the group and getting a good workout .
Fitness is a big factor. Got into MTB's in my 50's and realised quickly how unfit I was. 15 min rides in my local hills was killing me, so I wasn't riding because it just wasn't fun. Pondered eMTB's for years before taking the plunge, and have zero regrets. One hour rides no problem, and have stepped back assistance as fitness has improved. I've since added a hardtail MTB for flatter rides. Love them both!
The wife and I bought an E fatbike each for winter riding and local commuting here in Canada BC. Groomed single track night rides or punting up to the ski hill are the best. We use them for training too for when we can use our other full suspension bikes in summer. It's either shuttles or earn your turns where we are with bikes parks in an hour vicinity of us. They make so much sense around here.
Purchased a used Scott Espark “for my wife” to reintroduce her into MTB. Not only can we ride together now, which is an amazing benefit, but I am finding that I will use her bike once a week and it allows me to have a more fun recovery day in between rides on my IBIS Ripmo. An unexpected benefit, therefore, to having an ebike. MORE miles per week and time on the trail. Plus it adds a new dynamic to rides I have known for years. That too is an unexpected benefit. I am convinced I am VERY fortunate to be in this sport during an era when the products are evolving to allow older riders like me (56) a way to remain deeply involved and active, and able to ride along with my 24 year old son and his mates... I am now a solid fan of the eMTB and look forward to further development.
I have a hard tail MTB and since watching this channel converted over to a giant trance e+2. I use both but can honestly say that the ebike is so much more fun ! Keep up the good work embn !
Loved the vid. Me, the hairy monster as interviewed, loved the balanced chat.
Morgage the kids and get an e bike now before Carona beer becomes an issue
Oh boy, what a freaking issue it became.
I wasn't sold on the eMTB concept until I rode one, I was convinced at that point. I sold my dirt bike a week later and searched high and low until I found a brand new 2020 Cannondale Habit with the Bosch Gen 4 motor. I now ride much faster up-hill and I ride much further and ride much more often, it really is a great deal of fun. I also commute to work on my eMTB.
Interesting and very timely. I just had my first ride on my new hardtail e-mountain bike, never ridden one before! I’m 70 this year and I think it’ll make me fitter than riding my hardtail which is very light but isn’t much fun riding up the hills. Maybe it’s the novelty but I think I’ll find it more fun covering say 30+ hilly miles rather than 20. At the end of the day it’s up to you how much effort you put in, but on hilly stuff you’re still always going to get a workout on an e-bike. I’ll still keep my regular MTB for flatter tracks though. Do I wish I’d bought one a few years earlier? - no, but I feel the time is now right. I’ll also stick with my road bike. It’s very light and there’s something special about riding on good roads without big hills with no assistance.
An ebike hater told me that I was cheating with my ebike (we werent even competing) so I turned my motor off and beat him anyway because I get 3 rides a week and he only goes out 1. What a pitiful attitude to have. Ebikes and Normal bikes are awesome. Just love them and have fun!
Soooooo much fun blow away regular bike😁👍👍👍👍
Maybe he was right
@@graysquirreltreeservice7299 A motorcyclist trying to be an athlete, pathetic
Maybe he was more tired because he hadnt been relying on a motor to get him up the hills 😉
Interesting debate but for 99% of us ‘average’ riders it is sadly defined by cost! 😎
Emtbs have been out for a number of years so there are decent second hand or ex hire bikes about at reasonable prices.
I paid for my Scott similar money as for not motorised bike.
Last time I did modifications according to my needs and I am happy.
You say this but my EMTB cost £4500, there are MTBs out there that are thousands of pounds more than my bike.
For me I thought exactly the same. But then I thought about the health benefits and shopped around for pay monthly interest free and to be honest there was a great choice so now I own an Ebike and have to say worth every penny for the fun factor and health benefits.
@@01Peebee10 so it is probably monthly salary?
For me it means 4 months of working and for many people 8 on the and you say it is expensive for you ???
The answer is get both. Some days you just give your non cycling friends the ebike and show them how much fun you can have out there while you chase them on the acoustic. I call ebikes smile machines because you cant help but to have a riot out there.
I was totally against EMTB's for all the ususal reasons....... then I hired one to try and it was absolutely brilliant! I still haven't bought one but its really only a matter of time.
agreed!
Hi Steve at EMBN. I will be 70 in September. I have always cycled but only recently bought a "normal " mountain bike. It's a Lapierre zesty 5.9. I love it but the climb to the top was killing me and especially when out with my sons. I am now awaiting a Trek Rail to be delivered hopefully this week. I can't wait. Had a wee shottie on my son in laws Trek and was immediately converted. I'm keeping the Zesty as having different bike options is the way to go. Keep up the great work.
My first ebike ride last week- new skills needed pedal assist requires better gear selection and anticipation of terrain- super planted - big fun - more thrills per hour due to uphill rates achieved. Fun time v run time ratio is the equation you need to ask yourself! Once bitten forever smitten 🤩
I purchased my emtb late last year to complement my analog riding, absolutely love both bikes and since I have been riding both, both disciplines have got noticeably better, it's a 2 bike world now, you can buy two very good bikes, analog and emtb for less than the new Levo sl, end of the day, just get out there and ride bikes and have fun!!.
It's all about price. You may be able to afford a mid range mountain bike with all the bells and whistles but a similarly priced e-bike isn't going to have the same features. Until the cost comes down, most of us will continue riding traditional mtbs.
There’s always the DIY retrofit option, (bafang, etc). You get to keep the bike you love and configure the motor and battery however you like. I electrified my Trek Farley and it’s a game changer. It cost $800 for the parts.
I think the answer is to have an e-bike AND an acoustic bike!
Good video as always, i must admit ive been considering E bike for last 18 months, price kept scaring me off and would i like it enough. I kept my 10 year old Trek and purchased a Trek Rail 9 E bike and love it, dont regret it and now do double the distance i used to and found new trails i would never have gone to before. Dont delay you will love it.
I've been MTBing for years now, the last few on a 650B Cannondale Habit and I decided to take the ebike plunge and bought a Habit Neo 29er. I love riding both of them. I have great fun now charging up bits of trail which were only enjoyable as descents before when I'm on the ebike and I still go back to the unpowered Habit regularly for its playfulness and lack of inertia.
E-bike all the way, sold my regular mtb as it was not as fun. People complaining about price need to learn to haggle. My 2020 bike is still on sale for £3799 in shops but I got it for £3100 brand new before 2020! Huge discounts to be had if you shop around.
I'm not against the idea of getting an E-MTB, however, let me play devil's advocate here for a bit.
I realize that cost is the limiting factor for most of us to get an E-MTB, but in a few short years, I can foresee the prices coming down as more developments are made and more manufacturers jump onto the bandwagon. So that is a short term problem.
The longer term problem, as I see it, is user serviceability. Most motors nowadays are sealed and not serviceable at all, just taking em apart by yourself voids the warranty. Hell, Shimano motors are the only motors I know of which you can update the firmware yourself. Just bring it to a service center, you say? This might not be possible for some of us, and others might have their own reasons to work on their bikes themselves. The bike industry has always given us the option to wrench on our own bikes, without fear of voiding warranties(unless you're a real special breed of dumbass). Why have they taken away this option for E-MTBs?
Then there's the problem of finding spare parts for your motor, battery or the like. Your motor is out of warranty and it just blew. As the motor is out of warranty, you take it apart, locate the faulty part, and try to search for it online. Only to have nothing turn up. Your only option now is to get a completely new motor. This is in stark contrast with the rest of what's on your bike. You can get any spare part for almost any component you care to name. Broken the cage of your derailleur? There's a spare derailleur cage which you can easily buy out there. Exploded the damper on your fork? No problem, just order another damper online. Not everyone of us can afford to buy a completely new motor, or fork, just to keep riding. And we have that option with the fork, but not the motor.
Lastly, there's the issue of upgradability. Most people can build and customize their bikes however they like. There's a wide selection of fork, shock, handlebars, stems, drivetrain, wheels, brakes, you name it, for the person to choose to spec on their bikes. However, for E-MTBs, you're stuck with whatever motor and battery came on your bike. Don't like it? Too bad. Wanna upgrade your battery to that larger capacity one that brand just announced? Yea, not happening, you peasant. Unless you go buy a new bike with that.
As such, even if my country suddenly decided to lift all the heavy restrictions on electric modes of transport tomorrow, I'll just sit on my arse for that bit longer to see where the E-MTB industry is going. Again, I'm not against getting an E-MTB. I just want to ensure that it's an sound investment which I do not have to throw away after X number of years.
TL;DR: Give us the right the repair everything on our E-bikes, and the option to upgrade everything as well.
I agree that the motor is the issue everything else is self-serviceable. Perhaps someone (EMBN !) should push the motor companies to offer an exchange refurbed motor at an affordable cost.......they used to do this with car gearboxes / engines. Maybe a big opening for an entrepreneurial person / company.
All points taken!
I love to ride anything! In my mid 60s I find myself riding more often as I need to limit my running. With a good balance of riding for fitness and pleasure I love riding on roads and fire roads where 90 minutes get me 20-25 miles but when I venture out on my mtn bike that drops significantly. Same great workout just don’t get to see as much scenery.
So, that’s why I’m considering an e mtn bike.
Went out with a friend on one and it was great fun, still a great workout and covered lots of ground. Also made the climbs a fun challenge instead of a grueling grind.
Love your channel, Thank you! 👍😎
I own two MTB's (actually tree with my winter bike) a full susprension for all round fun and a hard tail for more trail runs with the family, and just love them. My next bike however will be an EMTB without question! I want to be able to clinb up my mountain more that two times before running out of gas. It is that simple. The new Levo SL looks quite impressive for this purpose.
One of the best and most "relaxing" discussion about choosing a MTB or EBike :). Great content.
I really like both. I have 2 very different mt bikes, a 53 lb Canyon spectral ON, and a 24.5 lb Intense Sniper with 100mm travel ft and rear. The EMTB scratches one itch, the Intense takes care of the need to ride a really light bike and do big climbs.
The UK is much more sophisticated than here in the States, Most MTB trails prohibit EMTB riders on them, well at least in my state. But the EBike is permitted on most biking trails with a power & speed limit. I'm 62 & opted for the EBike to get some much needed workouts & know I can get back home or to my vehicle.
Well Boomers are good at changing laws to suit their needs alone. Keep those thing off of Colorado trails. Period.
We initially bought bikes as an addition to our other bikes however during the last 15 months since owning them , slowly but surely they have become the only bike we ride . The area we live is the east coast of Suffolk , fantastic XC terrain however its gravity DH or Enduro type trails we love . E-bikes have totally transformed our ride experiences around here and enable us to get just so much enjoyment now, either sessioning or riding great areas we have developed that make so much sense on ebikes. We now have trails that feature great up hill technical climbs that wouldn't be possible on a normal bike linking loads of great punchy DH descents . To put it simply we now get all the fun the guys in mountain areas get and haven't lost fitness either !! Here's the big plus though, we reckon ebikes are driving us to make more fantastic trails which are now being used by all other segments of mountain bikers ! Win win win
I'm 66 and kind of a heavy fellow. Bought an eBike and now I'm riding with much younger and fast bikers and having a lot of fun. And also I'm riding more my road bike and my regulat mtb than before.
Went through all the usual mental twists and turns about Ebikes. Put it off for years, but a couple of years ago when recovering from a bad MTB crash, I was trying to get fit and went to Afan just to do the climbs. Spent ages climbing to the top of Penhydd and two lads breezed up on ebikes, we had a chat at the top and they said they could Penhydd and The Wall in one evening. No longer a consideration for me after that.
Climbing is a nice challenge and a great sense of achievement, but we go up cos we want to go down.
I took delivery of a Canyon Spectral ON last week and it is the nuts. One shakedown ride then popped of to see one of my riding mates who I can only keep up with providing I stay on top of my weight and injury free (which is not as often as I’d like). We went out for a quick blast and while I was quicker than him using assistance, I was still knackered at the end of it.
Then today I went out for another quick spin and did another 1.5 hours and burned 1000 calories that, in all honesty, I wouldn’t have done on my unassisted Bike.
It’s not a substitute for normal bikes, but it’s early days yet and I can see the Ebike getting a lot more action than the others.
The main question for me is, can the moter (in eco mode) significantly (over-)compensate the weight difference, especially at steep parts of a trail. it would be interesting and helpful to have a kind of weight-motor-ratio to make the decision easier. I tend to invest more money in a very light MTB than into a 21kg eMTB.
In my case as a mature returning rider, the only option was an e-bike, even though I have a higher level of fitness now than 20 years ago. If they were not available or as developed as they currently are, then my only option would have been to continue to ride a motor bike. The e-bike allows me to explore further and to more places than I could on a peddly, plus I'm not really interested in putting my bike on a float to take it to the top of the hill and then free-wheeling to the bottom :-)
As to cost, fortunately the motor-bike I sold covered most of the outlay.
yeh same here ..sold 2 of my motorbikes and got ebike
Baby boomer be like" get out of my way you damn kids!" What a nightmare.
I love emtb's.......but the biggest hurdle is the price.....£5000 for a levo an most of the good other makes ...it's a big investment... people are waiting for prices to come down....but I don't think they will....an if you bought a bike in 2019 you will be kicking yourself because all the 2020 bikes are so much better...it's a big question
I bought an ebike this year and I would never go back to anything else just love it 👍
I live in Colorado and most and many trails here outlaw emt. bikes. I’m 65 and have son-in-laws their 40’s. I would love to be able to keep up with an emt. bike but trail rules don’t allow it. Hopefully the regulatory decision makers will change their mind over time as they did with regards to allowing mt. Bikes on trails decades ago.
Just ride what they going to do arrest u🤣
Trevor Case that’s smart. I believe the rules will change because there will be many more ebike riders eventually. Ebikes will be the majority in the future. Your leading the way.
If you enjoy the pain on the way up get a MTN bike, the ride down is a blast on either one but you can get a lot more riding in on a EMTN bike!
just gone from full fat ebike to the Levo SL...blown away by the difference and doubt I would go back
I just went to a demo day. Now I want both. A short travel 29er(Norco Optic) and long travel E-MTB (Norco Range VLT)............. Both were super fun.
I presented an Emtb with an interesting thought. What if the money they spent on an Emtb they instead spent on something as light as possible? Granted they wouldn't be as quick up hill but everywhere else? It made them think!
I have both. The feeling of the endorfines of the normal bike will never be replaced by a motor since there is no severe fatique in the second. Comfortable to commute with an ebike but the feeling of a mechanical bike is irreplaceable
why not just have both? i own a 2013 ktm ultra 1964 and a 2018 focus raven 2 with the fazua motor wich i bought this year for half the price ;D
Normal MTB? Had no idea they still existed since getting my first EMTB two years ago and now finally settling with a Levo!
Good choice
I enjoyed my full suspension giant trance for a few years. It was a good workout and decent fun. Now at 43 I just bought my first emtb hardtail. It has opened up a whole new level of riding and for me anyway they are just much more fun. Still a good workout and as bizarre as this is my emtb was more affordable 😂. I definitely think regular mtb should come down in price spending 5-10k in 2024 on a non-motorized mtb is just absurd. Manufacturers really need to think hard about how much they are charging now that emtb are here.
I was going to give up commuting because i was tire off climbing my hill everyday, I test rode an e mountain bike , loved it, bought it, and now my commute is a happy one. I can use as much battery power as I want. Some days i us a little, someways I us a lot. But because of my E mountain bike, i am still cycling commuting.
I have a Whyte T130 and have just got myself a Turbo Levo two totally different bikes love riding them both.
Only thing holding me off a eMTB is I can't fly with it from Europe to AUS and back.
Like Cape Town, parts where I ride don't have uplifts and there are some great down hill tracks but you have to winch yourself back up them and a few runs and you're knackered. eMTB would be ideal in these cases and being a solo rider who like to explore ...
I just test rode the Santa Cruz Heckler, totally awesome but $8000 is a bit much for a bike!
However, what is the cost of fun, fitness and wellbeing?
Sweet rig that. Pretty pricey but so gorgeous. Like marrying a supermodel.
@@JP-bv8su not$8k
On my fourth emtb, two Scott's (brilliant), a Levo (kept breaking down) and now loving my Whyte E180 RS.
Both! Giant Anthem X3 29er and Trek Rail 5 625. If the Rail 5 weighed 12kg I would use only that. All bikes are expensive now, not 'overpriced' as people are paying those prices. Good value? What value fun and fitness? How much for gym membership? Lower power lighter emtbs, well, there's a debate! Possibly the 'sweet spot'!
I`m 47 and my country is flat. So my choise - continue use my Commencal meta AM 2015 for fun and fitness. And spent my 3700$ for Sur Ron Lite B. With this toy i have 40-60 km\h downhill everywhere a want) I even can ride with motor bikes on amateure MX and enduro tracks.
Sell car and buy both.
Save for a folder to go on trains.
The end.
I like this guy!
The fitness thing is B's cause I ride till I start getting sloppy from fatigue regardless
Thank you for the tips
No problem! Glad you found it useful! 👍
2:10. Ah it hurts watching the foot resting on the rotor.
Hope no rotors were harmed during the filming
I got multiple spine injuries so the e-bike was a no brainer for me. Before I bought my e-bike I could only ride 4 mile before my back just couldn’t take it any more. After I got my turbo levo it was on. Now I can ride up to 30 miles a ride in the Sierra mountains with 2000’ of elevation change like it’s nothing.
I can do the 30 miles with 2000’ of elevation in 2 hours.
I think it’s down to emtb being too expensive for the mtb people that’s all ! I can’t afford a emtb but I don’t hate on emtb I love em !😆
An emtb is cheating though, a real mountain bike gets you working and is much lighter.
@@mrbigfoot554 Yes and I like how enormous first gear mtb has for easy riding. If battery goes dead emtb first gear looks more like something in the middle of mtb, you will never get back home. And off it goes after 40-60 km or less, so often time you better ride with the motor off your heavy emtb to have some reserve at the end
@@MarkoPetejan For my style of riding, enduro, a battery helps you get up the hill, but can change your center of gravity to something you are not used to at all, and you have to change your body positioning to fit the location and weight.
I rented a Specialized Turbo Levo Expert and it is a good bike, just e-mtbs are not my sort of
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I was always more into riding dirt bikes, mtb was fun but the hills...I recently switched to emtb and can't stop grinning when I ride. Being able to keep a faster more consistent pace uphill is huge and makes it feel a lot more like I'm back on my dirt bike riding single track.
Hello David. I'm 49 and and still have two old motorbikes, so I think we can relate. When I had my dog I used my mountain bike a lot. I miss that sort of offroad riding. I have a great "normal" bike. Just don't really use it. Due to your experience, what kind of mtb would you advise for a small guy (172cm / 78kg)? As a technician I don't want anything with electronics. I have enough of that at work. I would like something with extremely good suspension. My price around 3k+ Euros. I live in Germany. Would appreciate an answer. Internet info has cooked my brain.
If you choose e mtb consider engine drag when pedal assist cuts off and max speed will be less compare to simple mtb on a flat surface
I would love to get an ebike but the law, here in Sweden, is still a bit unclear whether you are permitted to use ebikes on the trails or not. It seems like you need permission from the person who owns the land to ride.
Here too. The fine can be 80 EUR, I would gladly pay it, forget about it and continue exploring. In my mind its fair use and a human right to have access to nature. (Finland is such case, I believe.) I really don't care about the law or feelings, as long as you respect nature and you are there to enjoy it. Your well-being comes first.
My LBS is letting me demo a EMTB this weekend, and I've been having so much fun with it. I will be sad when I have to return it this monday ☹
A great look at the options and the differences between the bikes Steve.
After spending a lifetime riding, racing and contributing to the coolest magazine on the planet (that Jones was the editor of) I can honestly say e bike all the way.
They jump, manual, rail turns and allow you to climb super tech uphills.
As far as cost goes there's non e bikes that cost the same amount as eeeessss.
I'm not justifying the price of certain e bikes. In fact I think they are extortionate. However there are entry level options that will fill the majority of riders needs from novice to pro.
Steve 'the butcher'
Great job you guys are doing @EMTB, so entertaining, keep on! I didn't know your channel before I got my first eMTB just half a year ago (can you imagine?), bought the Scott Patron just due to their marketing, quite naive, I know. But what a good choice though, it is ridiculously fun to go uphill, Jesus! Sometimes I don't even feel that I am already sweating, so confirm, sill sports, but love forgetting that while just enjoying. Fantastic tool, 21st century rocks!
It’s like comparing a sledge and a skidoo …. I think mtb and emtb are completely different sports. Ones not better than the other. I get fitter and more of an endorphin rush from my mtb, I use my emtb more cause it’s more fun, I can go further, explore more, and with covering more ground, become a better biker.
both
E-Knees are the future
Climb the rock face or take the cable car, run a marathon or take the car, swim across a lake or take the boat, smash the trail on an MTB or do it on an ebike? You can have fun on an ebike but at the end of the day I couldn't take any credit for smashing a trail, I would have to give it to the motor. I'll get an ebike at some point because of my age but you won't see me posting my times on strava pretending that I did it on an MTB.
You've clearly never been on one
I’ve just got the Haibike HardSeven 0.1 2020, and love it,travel to work and found myself wanting to go further,and the three peaks are more or less in my garden so might try bike them..great videos by the way guys 👍👍👍
And I also got the bike for £1399 bargain
If I had no bike I would get an e-bike or a gravel bike as a first choice. Once the battery runs out your pushing the bike home. Yes the e-MTB will challenge steeper terrain for any fitness level. I’m actually downgrading my carbon fiber hardtail Giant MTB to a more narrow tire to create a more versatile all rounder for dirt trails and longer x-country rides that could include pavement? Is the e-MTB more capable yes! At a price, you’re buying into a technology that is quickly evolving. If I had $5;000 to burn then I could purchase an mid-drive eMTB. Specialized is probably 2 years ahead of everyone? So safe to say, that in three years you’ll get the same specialized bike that costs $7k for half the price. Why, economy of scales; the more units sold the cheaper the bikes become, plus battery technology is rapidly developing. I just don’t think there is a huge value in today’s power assist eMTB. Call me a skeptic? If you want a go anywhere bike get a 250cc + dirt bike and it will climb anything go anywhere at insane speeds enough for not a whole lot more money than a high end eMTB. I’m holding off for 2-3 years before I go e-anything. I looked at the Bafang mid-drive kits, but decided no. Now I’m going Schwalbe g-one all around tubeless. Rotational weight makes a big difference on how a bike rolls. Once the battery dies on an eMTB you have a 50 pound bag of dog food with wheels.
Going for my first ebike hardtail this year.
Another great specialised advert
It's normal because they hare sponsored by specialized
Don't knock it, if EMBM don't get help from bike manufacturers and bike product manufacturers, there is no EMBN. That what makes the world go round. PS I'm not a Specialised fan!
They make a living out of that....and you would too
@@RubenJFernandes I know this
@@JP-bv8su I'm not knocking them everyone has bills to pay
I bet the ones that have a E-Mountain Bike also have a Stationary Exercise E-Bike at home = Same but Different .
EMTBs, as they cover more ground in a given slice of time, which means “more fun”.
Not sure how an Emtb with an assisted top speed of 15mph covers more ground than someone (like me) who has an average riding speed of 18mph.
Levo the only one you need!
Levo Lemon avoid like the plague
Have a carbon trek remedy which I use for keeping fit , couple of people I ride with have Emountain bikes , find it hard to justify spending north of £6k to get an equivalent spec Ebike which is really off road motorcycle money for a cycle . Interest rates on the finance deals are incredibly high so it’s off putting and while I’d like to think I’d make good use of
An ebike I worry power assist would just detract from my fitness goals and not deliver strength building workouts
Seems a shame they just cost so much to buy and finance really 🤷♂️
My dad is 45 and has a knee problem so he is getting a emtb to help him
I have owned and ridden both... I personally prefer mtb over ebikes but do understand why others would choose ebikes.
Skinny guy: Driving a MTB - Not so skinny guy: driving an EMTB. :D Jokes aside; I want to stark biking again and I can't decide which one to choose - E or no E, this is the question.
I’ve just ordered an E mountain bike cos my knees are suffering on the hills I thought sod it take the plunge
I really want an emtb but I simply just can't justify the price at present.
Save up, it's not that difficult. I did and WOW!!! Worth the effort.
My brother has a $40,000 bass boat and on top of all the fishing gear it costs $150 every time he takes it out! In perspective the ebikes are a great deal for a hobby you love! Plus they have all the health benefits!
@@brianthompson1045 I can't afford a bass boat either.
Steve asks for our thoughts and simply in my case being on a minimum wage with a family they are out of reach for some people at this time. Definately one is in my future though.
I have had mountain bikes for years I am in my 60tys now but live in flat Suffolk . so both is the answer now
Me too but live north of inverness.
Stop wasting your time trying to convince the non believers. Its their loss! Put your effort into your videos and features for those who appreciate them!
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In all fairness, if you're just starting out, I'd get a regular MTB. You need to know how it feels reacts and how to fix it. You'll be doing more fixing and maintenance on an ebike.
ride an ebike for a few weeks then jump back on your mtn bike. tell me how fit you are.
#1 warranty ,integrated,if that motor melts down you got a very expensive paper weight.
#2 Go modular, dual sport never be without your bike. kranked bikes
haha so is Yohan an ex roadie with his lycra kit on :) seriously though not quite ready for an Emtb just based on the fact that the missus would devorce me spending 5 grand plus on a Emtb...
Emtb are way more fun sorry to say not even comparable 😁😁😁😁🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️🚴♀️😍
Good video !!!
Can't wait to have my kenevo.
sell all assets. Kenevo has changed my life.
@@MrRupertguy mine should be here by the end of this month
Not long bought a trek remedy 7 would have liked to have purchased a emtb full sus but it's to expensive. Mainly because my wife beat me to it a bought a liv emtb so I have to wait
the comparison is really: high end, lightweight mtb vs. heavy emtb w value components and smallest capacity battery they can get away w
Heavier yes but the motor makes weight a non issue in many ways.
500,625 or even 1250wh is nice tho :) i have two 500wh Batteries and can easily do 80km through alpine terrain. In Tour
Since I got my Levo my beloved Yeti is lonely and unused. Just have so much more fun on the Levo, nothing against the Yeti. So Yeti will be sold and I want to find it a good new forever home.
Or get a partner who loves ebikes. Ok that might mean divorce but youd get to keep the bike.
Boomers can pretend to be mountain bikers now!
brian warshow enjoy the shuttle bro. I’ll pedal past you
@@brianwarshow129 do you think millenials invented mtbs?
Each to their own. E-bikes look hedious though.