FIRST TAKE | More Playoff Pressure: Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson? - Stephen A. and Shannon debate

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @JohnDoe33408
    @JohnDoe33408 4 часа назад +32

    The fact that they judge Lamar by such a higher standard tells you everything.

  • @kellykell8439
    @kellykell8439 3 часа назад +14

    Wow. Lamar Jackson really is one of the most UNDERRATED NFL quarterbacks to ever live.

  • @Michael-se5ks
    @Michael-se5ks 3 часа назад +21

    Shannon asked how do you stop Josh Allen. Ask Lamar the MVP and the Ravens

  • @jaderiusreed5550
    @jaderiusreed5550 4 часа назад +55

    Lamar beat the brakes of Josh Allen . But Because he is the great white hype and beat Mahomes he automatically is the mvp get outta here

    • @ReekWalls
      @ReekWalls 4 часа назад +1

      No, Lamar was leading the mvp race for awhile. Ima Lamar fan to the core. He hasn’t play his best against high level competition. His numbers are outstanding but Josh is playing his best against the best teams. Now if Lamar threw for over 300 and had about 6-7 touch downs it would’ve been undeniable mvp front runner game for him

    • @Coach_Hale_
      @Coach_Hale_ 3 часа назад +3

      I agree. They couldn’t wait to crown Allen.

    • @jaderiusreed5550
      @jaderiusreed5550 3 часа назад +2

      @@ReekWalls only reason Lamar not in the mvp convo is because they lost 4 games bcuz Tuck can’t kick no more . If Lamar Beat the Eagles and Beat the Chiefs at the beginning of the season. And had a 11-3 or 12-2 record they would have him as a MVP front runner .
      Mind you the lost a game to the browns bcuz Hamilton couldn’t catch a blaten pick . Lamar been going crazy this year go back and watch the game bro . Eagles game the only one you can really say he slacked a little

    • @bry0391
      @bry0391 2 часа назад +1

      Bad take. Both are ballin, it’s just Josh’s year. Lamar won a few already and arguably should not have won it last year. Both great QBs so just sit back and watch the show they both put on week in and week out

    • @markbryant-669
      @markbryant-669 2 часа назад +1

      @@ReekWallsLamar smashed the Bills and the Broncos tough defense so how haven’t he beat any good teams

  • @Pink50sbluesinnit
    @Pink50sbluesinnit 4 часа назад +85

    How is Lamar not playing on Josh Allen’s level wtf is people watching🤣

    • @discodrip3097
      @discodrip3097 4 часа назад +4

      Lamar’s stats are better - simple. However the MvP is Josh’s to lose.

    • @armanibrown5446
      @armanibrown5446 4 часа назад +1

      Because Lamar Jackson hasn't broken records these past two weeks did it become the first quarterback to have a rushing and receiving touchdown in one play he never scored three touchdowns on the ground in three in the air and I think Josh Allen broke the record for having the most games with 300 plus yards so if you look at saquon Barkley right now he hasn't exactly broken a record yet but it's not only broke a record but he set some Lamar Jackson hasn't and you can't look at Buffalo like they haven't played good teams they played the Rams they played Kansas they played Detroit did they play the Texans

    • @adrianbooze2107
      @adrianbooze2107 4 часа назад +9

      Cause these Commentators are so biased it is a shame

    • @adrianbooze2107
      @adrianbooze2107 4 часа назад +11

      Lamar Jackson stats is way better than Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson is stiff arming defenders and scoring in the red zone who is doing that

    • @thecomebackkid7892
      @thecomebackkid7892 4 часа назад +7

      Lamar hasn’t set records this year??? Ravens haven’t played a tougher schedule?? I mean you don’t have any incentive to lie

  • @Mindag13
    @Mindag13 3 часа назад +20

    So Lamar isn’t on Josh’s level but he’s under more pressure? Lol

    • @KO-iz4dc
      @KO-iz4dc 6 минут назад +1

      They hate making sense

  • @kiyanwest149
    @kiyanwest149 3 часа назад +15

    Yall said Lamar can’t play the position now yall hold him to a highest standard lmaoo anything to bring a black qb down

    • @saphroygould9705
      @saphroygould9705 2 часа назад +1

      This is why I can't take these people serious 😅

    • @KO-iz4dc
      @KO-iz4dc 5 минут назад

      Literally anything smh

  • @argentrisbarber3967
    @argentrisbarber3967 4 часа назад +18

    Hold on. Lamar is not playing on Josh Allen's level. Josh is MVP but the MOST Pressure on Lamar Jackson.🤔🤷‍♂️. Lamar has no excuses but if Bills don't win then Josh has excuses. This media narrative is crazy. Insane.

    • @SK8ERxBOY12
      @SK8ERxBOY12 2 часа назад

      fr actually wild they want their poster boy to be it so bad...

  • @saquaadessesaure9016
    @saquaadessesaure9016 4 часа назад +25

    Lamar mvp

  • @thagodeverlasting1398
    @thagodeverlasting1398 4 часа назад +9

    They been trying to push Josh Allen down our throats for the longest

  • @GodKingjafirah
    @GodKingjafirah 3 часа назад +10

    Ask the Ravens how to stop him. They apparently have the recipe 🎉

  • @kxngdavid
    @kxngdavid 2 часа назад +4

    Lamar Jackson is currently the best QB in football.

  • @kxngdavid
    @kxngdavid 2 часа назад +4

    When the Ravens lose, Media blames everything on Lamar Jackson. When Bills lose, Media praise Josh Allen, but blames the team. 😂 The media bias is real, folks.

  • @qcmartins
    @qcmartins 4 часа назад +8

    Josh Allen is the better, scariest QB until... there are expectations involved, then when it is time to criticize and point out the short comings, it is always Lamar's spot, even though both got to the same point in the post season so far.

  • @thagodeverlasting1398
    @thagodeverlasting1398 3 часа назад +7

    More pressure on Lamar is just a scapegoat for Allen when he lose it’s like oh well. When Lamar lose he can’t win the big one. These guys are pathetic

  • @heralddurosier458
    @heralddurosier458 4 часа назад +25

    Lamar MVP🎉

  • @Money_era
    @Money_era 2 часа назад +2

    This isn’t the best qb will win in the playoffs game anymore. This will boil down to who has the most experienced team and coaching staff.

  • @micwest3983
    @micwest3983 4 часа назад +10

    Media does this and fan boys run with it. They erase or don't speak on ALLEN negative games. ALLEN played well lately but he stat pads

  • @SK8ERxBOY12
    @SK8ERxBOY12 2 часа назад +2

    bruh the josh allen galze is out of this wolrd..... are we really gonna act l ike diggs leaving didnt hurt him... he was playing at season lows till they signed armi cooper yall just say anything i swear.

  • @argentrisbarber3967
    @argentrisbarber3967 3 часа назад +3

    So Hold on Lamar has to get 300yds passing and 150yds rushing and 5 touchdowns to get credit....😒😱🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. What Qb has EVER had those numbers in a game.😒. Lamar is the ONLY Qb that has to win 2025 Superbowl to win 2024 MVP. This is INSANE. Josh has not beaten Mahomes in Playoffs and has not done much vs Joe Burrow but that's not held against him. Lamar has better passing Numbers than Josh and better Rushing Numbers than Josh. That media narrative. Its crazy how both Josh and Lamar came out of same draft. But Lamar willl be the 3 time MVP. The same Larmar they said could not be a average startling Qb. The same Lamar they said would have to SWITCH positions to WR. The same Lamar they said could not win. The same Lamar they said didn't DESERVE a new contract. That same Lamar. The MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED and HATED Qb in NFL HISTORY and it ain't close. MV3

  • @markbrown6687
    @markbrown6687 2 часа назад +1

    These ppl are so bias LJ his way better than Josh but I guess they want him to win MVP so bad

  • @terrellgaskin6073
    @terrellgaskin6073 2 часа назад +1

    Lamar playing better than Josh and the stats show it. Ravens beat Bills. But we know their bosses have set the narrative.

  • @edwardcole5423
    @edwardcole5423 2 часа назад +1

    Shannon Lamar has had a game with 300 pass yard and 100+ rush yards

  • @wallwildlife
    @wallwildlife Час назад +1

    Just say the NFL told us to go for the white boy

  • @trackstarelijah1943
    @trackstarelijah1943 2 часа назад +1

    They scored 10 points against the Ravens 😂🤣

  • @markbryant-669
    @markbryant-669 2 часа назад +1

    Lamar never had a Diggs or Elite receiver period hopefully Bateman continue to develop along with Flowers

  • @Mindag13
    @Mindag13 3 часа назад +1

    wtf are people talking about. Lamar is better. Did Josh not go 9/30 this season and lose to Lamar 35-10?

  • @kxngdavid
    @kxngdavid 2 часа назад +2

    I can't wait for Josh Allen to lay an egg in the playoffs to a wild card team.

  • @coachd6790
    @coachd6790 3 часа назад +2

    Lamar still better……way better!

  • @tay9805
    @tay9805 4 часа назад +1

    Josh Allen can have MVP Lamar got 2 of em n neither team has won SB so literally in the same damn boat til otherwise

  • @christianiggi
    @christianiggi Час назад +1

    The Bills have had one of the easiest schedules

  • @DavidRaymer-yx1tx
    @DavidRaymer-yx1tx 3 часа назад

    Really excited to see who excels in playoffs. That’s where this should and will be settled.

  • @raventhornton467
    @raventhornton467 2 часа назад

    Smh this take is crazy Josh Allen, Jackson,Hurts,Burrow,Allen,Herbert,Tua and Love are all playing catch up to Mahomes. I swear the media is joke fr

  • @1onesix
    @1onesix 3 часа назад +1

    Lamar numbers are better but Josh Allen team has the better record

    • @Dozjah
      @Dozjah 43 минуты назад

      MVP is a player award . A superbowl is the team award.

    • @1onesix
      @1onesix 36 минут назад

      @Dozjah 😂😂😂 football is a team sport smh

  • @BrianMorgan-ct8oq
    @BrianMorgan-ct8oq 2 часа назад

    Are we about to forget that Josh Allen lost to a Rams team that had to win by field goals against THE 49ERS?!?!? And what happened when Josh Allen came to Baltimore? Josh Allen was on the bench with 6 and a half minutes in the last quarter but Lamar ain’t on Josh’s level even though he threw 5 TDs with only 4 incompletions 😂🤦🏽

  • @KO-iz4dc
    @KO-iz4dc 7 минут назад

    Chiefs definitely regarded LJ as the toughest player & the ravens as the toughest team they faced this year & last year. The glazing is legendary from the media smh. So if LJ go to the playoffs & play well it takes the losses away from his record like Josh Allen? Lol smh the bs yall give

  • @marnuslabuschagnefan
    @marnuslabuschagnefan 4 часа назад +2

    Lamar is playing better than Mahomes and Josh at the same time! 5 TDs against the giants!

    • @ReekWalls
      @ReekWalls 4 часа назад +1

      Ima Lamar fan to the core, but ima be honest. 5 TD’s against the giants isn’t as impressive as 6TD’s against the rams and what he did against the lions.
      The giants are trash Josh is doing big things against high level teams

    • @micwest3983
      @micwest3983 4 часа назад

      @@ReekWallslol he had 5 tds vs the bucs when they were one of the hottest teams and blew out Allen head-to-head

    • @JohnDoe33408
      @JohnDoe33408 4 часа назад

      @micwest3983 That doesn't count because the goal posts weren't in the correct position at that time.

    • @ReekWalls
      @ReekWalls 4 часа назад

      @ I agree!! I think the ravens would demolish the bills again, and Allen didn’t play good against the ravens. I think Allen just has the most momentum because he beat the two best teams in the league. Lamar had average games against the Steelers and the eagles and loss. Do I personally think Lamar is better than Allen , yes numbers don’t lie
      But Allen is working with less on offense this season and still getting it done. That’s the same reason they gave Lamar the mvp last year became he was working with less and still getting it done even though his numbers weren’t great

    • @kiyanwest149
      @kiyanwest149 3 часа назад

      Average game? Lamar had more yards than Barkley and hurts combined and ravens beat the Steelers if Tucker didn’t miss kicks

  • @DJohn0991
    @DJohn0991 3 часа назад

    I call bs .
    If Lamar plays mvp football and still loses in the playoffs the media will shred him apart .
    He HAS to win a Super Bowl to get everyone off his back .
    A third mvp while legendary will get completely looked over if he doesn’t get the big one

  • @coachmo2.0
    @coachmo2.0 4 часа назад

    That pick Shannon was talking about, shouldve been called pass interference. Likely was held...

  • @emmanuelprice9539
    @emmanuelprice9539 2 часа назад

    He literally missed 4 wide open guys yesterday

  • @Dozjah
    @Dozjah 44 минуты назад

    So Lamar won last year with undeserving numbers . Now Lamar stats are the best in the league it doesn’t count because he won with bad numbers. I’m just making sure I’m all caught up on where you moved the goal post.

  • @KO-iz4dc
    @KO-iz4dc Минуту назад

    The scariest QBs should b the ones who mostly win right? Lol

  • @Hova25
    @Hova25 2 часа назад

    I said if Allen beat KC and Detroit and ball out doing it he gonna win mvp! It's just like last year! Allen numbers was better than Lamar, but Lamar blowout out top teams and ballout! And had the top seed! Like 49ers, Detroit and Miami! Evening if the Ravens would have beat the eagles and the steelers, Allen still would've been the front runner! As a Ravens fanLamar doesn't need to win no more mvps until he win a superbowl!

  • @hueyd2000
    @hueyd2000 4 часа назад +2

    Look at these puppets, y’all are an embarrassment. SMFH !

  • @Super19900991
    @Super19900991 Час назад

    Lamar Jackson is no doubt the best Quarterback. They just want to keep the white Quarterback on top.

  • @immauelsantana9180
    @immauelsantana9180 4 часа назад

    Allen does look good, but can he get passed Mahomes in the playoffs. The Chiefs will be in the SuperBowl again. 💯

  • @SmokieJones
    @SmokieJones 4 часа назад

    Josh Allen, Goff, Barkley, for MVP. The ravens lost too many games already this year.

    • @willsmith6291
      @willsmith6291 4 часа назад

      Lamar is doing what he's doing without a defence

    • @StudentOfLife365
      @StudentOfLife365 Час назад

      The season not even over!!! The Bills could drop 2 more games and the Ravens could win out and end with the same schedule!! Those loses wasnt on Lamar!! Our Kicker sold 2-3 games alone!!! Its not on Lamar!!

  • @brandonjames740
    @brandonjames740 54 минуты назад

    Yall better say lamar because u making him black Jesus and he only had 2 playoff wins in 7 years... he hasn't done shit on SB teams built for him.

  • @tiddablacksaav8634
    @tiddablacksaav8634 4 часа назад

    We crushed the bills 35 10😂 Lamar breaking records every season. Why y'all want us to ruin the playoffs for the nfl fans that are not ravens nation? We fitna whoop on everybody post season! We here the hate through goal post moving 😂

  • @raymondcoe7032
    @raymondcoe7032 2 часа назад

    Lamar don't care about MVP and all 3 of you should be ashamed and you know why, puppets

  • @SodaPopinksi
    @SodaPopinksi 4 часа назад

    The overall numbers in the air and ground point to lamar being better outside of a few stats. More importantly, lamar beat him head to head. However, Josh is the hottest qb right now, so he'll win the mvp plus he has the better record which is the most important stat for mvp. Mahomes will lose to lamar or allen in the playoffs. Chiefs have no firepower and been relying on last minute use heroics, that luck will run out soon.😊

    • @argentrisbarber3967
      @argentrisbarber3967 3 часа назад

      If record counts then Mahomes is MVP over Josh. Chiefs will have best record in NFL and Home Field throughout the Playoffs. Mahomes numbers are close to Josh Allen. Plus Chiefs have suffered the more impactful injuries. If we are going by record Josh still is not MVP. Don't say Bills beat Chiefs because last time I checked Ravens STOMPED Bills. Lamar is the MVP.

    • @SodaPopinksi
      @SodaPopinksi 3 часа назад

      @argentrisbarber3967 you need to read more before comment. It is not the ONLY stat or else you'd know who the mvp is every year near the end of the year. Mvp is usually a qb mostly determined by record THEN stats and head to head match ups with other mvps late in the year. Most qbs had better stats than lamar last year, but his record was better and he beat out all the other mvps head to head. If the bills win the rest of their games, allen is easily mvp. Mahomes stats preclude him from winning mvp.

  • @mgonz407
    @mgonz407 3 часа назад

    How stupid do you have to be to say nobody is playing on his level dont get me wrong MVP is his to lose. Lamar is projected end up with 5000+ yards almost 1000 rush yards and 40 touchdowns

  • @Hippypippyzippy6769
    @Hippypippyzippy6769 3 часа назад

    Josh aint missing anything? He has a game where he went 9-30 😂 and what happened when Lamar and Allen met in the season? Allen got beat so bad he didnt play half of the 4th Quarter lol