Josh absolutely deserves it. No disrespect to Lamar’s season at all, but in terms of who’s doing more for their team, who’s the most valuable, I’d say it’s Josh Allen
How LJ beat the bills heads up and the games he's lost was on the kicker and the WRs and he would've beat kc in ot had likely foot not been on the line
Josh Allen is the 2024 MVP. Congrads enjoy it Josh. You defeated the Undefeated Chiefs and stop the #1 seed Lions 11 game win streak. You did that, you stood on Business 😂
@@isaiahbirdsong3702 Yeah, I'm not a lion's fan but these injuries have been devastating. I think they have three more injuries in the last game... That's crazy
He has way less talent around him than Lamar and yet he's THEE driving force of the #2 seed, beat the 2 best teams in the league, and him and the Bills are breaking statistical records
@@kevingardiner520 He's got 36 TDs to Lamar's 37. Last season, Lamar got the nod for having the better record and inferior stats to Allen. Not sure why you wouldn't give the nod to Allen when he's got more wins and just 1 less TD.
That farmer’s son named Josh Allen is an alien! 👽 I mean you don’t do what he is doing in NFL. And I am watching games for the last 45 years. This dude is insane!
@jd229 Allen plays in the 2nd worse division in the league 😂6 free wins vs. the jets ,dolphins, and patriots. I have Allen winning the MVP. But let's not act like he didn't get smoked by Lamar earlier this year.
@@qualinteranzy7948 2nd worse by the end of the season. Everyone and their mother had the Bills 2nd or 3rd in this division this year and called Miami and NY as SB contenders. Dont act like a weak division was known at the beginning of the season. Allen is the most valuable player to his teams success in the NFL. Period.
When people talk about Lamar they bring up the past so it’s fair game right ? Btw I do remember when. burrow came to Buffalo and linked Josh in the snow lol… So ………
@@michaellee5071 if youre bringing up past season to talk about an MVP race this season, you dont deserve to be in the conversation lol so Allen shouldnt be in the convo because 2 years ago the Joe Burrow locked down Allen wtf
My mentality everytime i see him on tv is “Josh Allen is a fighter! Hes just duking it out week after week” With very good reasons. Hes balled out and played a perfect playoff season and still lost. Speaks volumes on why hes so hungry.
That is kinda funny. Through out 300+ yards and multiple TDs of passing stats, and Allen still had a better game than Barkley. Barkley: 19 carries; 65 yds; 0 TD Allen : 11 carries; 68 yds; 2 TD
@@Dwat95 go beat the best teams in the nfl then............ o wait u lost to the chiefs..... then the raiders and browns.......... lmao lamar cant throw ......allen is 10 X better lmao..... his Wrs are WIDE OPEN EVERY PLAY Because of Derrick Henry.................LAMAR MISSES 5 THROWs A GAME JUST WATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a Lamar fan and I am sure Lamar himself would agree, no amount of MVP trophies would ever equal a Super Bowl trophy with a Super Bowl MVP. Enjoy it Josh, we have much bigger goals in sight.
Josh and no question. NFL MVP has always been a narrative award, as evidenced by Lamar last year, he's handed the chiefs their only loss and lions their second loss, and he's putting up all the crazy numbers without the turnover numbers that has been the media's reason for him not winning the award previously.
Fr they get so attached to one game they so sad they don’t mention there guy but last year it was record that mattered now they want it to not matter there delusion is funny
@@tannerbrown4953 ima ravens fan I have no problem with Josh winning the mvp he ballin. It’s how yall change the narrative that’s annoying . Like acho said Lamar got this guy and that guy. But when it was Allen with diggs ect and Lamar with no weapons nobody cared about that
@@larry2281 how ? Bc we call yall out on yall hate and hypocrisy? See lamar fans can give props to other qbs but yall can’t do the same with Lamar. Everything out yall mouth negative.
@ nah I’m not saying that to pump up Allen I’m just saying the top two RBs of the league really are in a league of their own rn. Cook has been great there’s no denying that! He plays a key roll for that team and plays it at a high level
Josh Allen outrushed Barkley this week, lol. There's a reason QBs always win MVP, QBs outproduce RBs by a metric F-ton. Allen is approaching another 40 plus TD year, Barkely isn't even leading his own team in rushing TDs, his QB is. Look at total yards and total TDs, it's not close (again, this is why QBs always win MVP, and why QBs make more money and get drafted sooner). Everyone was saying the Bills would be garbage this year and Allen has them at 11-3 and they won the east in record time. The eagles were a superbowl team before Barkely showed up, he's playing on a stacked team. To even think it's close race between Allen and Barkley is idiotic, Allen is MVP, far and away, and he should have won it last year too.
While I agree with most of what you’re saying, you can’t say Josh deserves it both this year and last year. If he deserved it last year Lamar or Joe deserves it this year if Lamar deserved it last year Josh deserves it this year.
Not anymore, because the cooler heads have prevailed and the top comments are now different. In the first hour ish of the video being uploaded 3/4 of the comments were Lamar fans crying.
@@captain_pennsylvaniaI think you misunderstand my point. It is less about Allen and more about game planning. Just bc Burrow is amazing doesn’t mean Chase would ever get zero targets on a game. Obviously cooper isn’t Chase but my point still stands. Your best receiver should never get zero targets in a game…unless he not your best receiver. And if he’s not clearly your best receiver, then your receiving core can’t be that bad
@@captain_pennsylvania so bc Allen is so good, you choose not to utilize your best weapon? That doesnt make sense. i guess you think Allen is the best QB of all time because that was never the case with Patty and Kelce, Brady and Gronk, Rodgers and Adams, etc etc. I dont care how good your QB is, it can only help make them better by utilizing their best weapon
@@bladebeast6700 it makes perfect sense, if the opposing team is taking away your best player, you throw it to who they are not concentrating on. Having said that Cooper has only been on the team for a month and he's been injured, he's probably playing hurt still. His other options are good, but not elite, Allen elevates them like Brady used to elevate his good but not great receivers. If Allen had Chase and Higgins his numbers would be even more ridiculous, but not many teams have receiving corps like the Bengals. Remember when Burrow went down last year and the bengals offense kept doing well with the backup QB? That's because the Bengals have elite receivers, not because their backup QB is as good as Burrow. If Allen goes down, the Bills offense will not continue to do well....
I watched this game and noticed that the defense is terrified to even touch Josh Allen so they won't get a penalty call. There were literally defensive linemen standing a foot away from him, letting him throw the ball. It's pathetic. Tom Brady is right.
Because they have other weapons. Josh Allen is the offense for the Bills. If Saquon goes out, the line moves by 2 point. If Josh Allen goes out the line moves by 10 points. Who is more valuable to their team? It's Josh Allen and it's not even close.
@@Finnissee0122 Derek Henry has the ability to carry an entire offense/team by himself. Nobody on this he bills can carry that team besides Josh. Bmore literally have to 99 overall rated players lol
@@Chef_Gee Derrick Henry has been held in check multiple games this year. He’s not winning games if Lamar is out. Anytime Lamar hasn’t had a high passer rating, Baltimore has lost. They aren’t a good enough team to win when Lamar doesn’t have elite performances.
The number one thing that all of the analysts forgets that Josh Allen is very intelligent and he's a quick study....... Not the equate, God gave him to some serious equipment to work with, he is here to humble the NFL, because they have no love for the Buffalo bills.
Ravens got an early season W thanks to Derrick Henry being a beast against a weak run defense before the Bills got Amari Cooper & when the Ravens were healthier, if they played again next week or meet in the playoffs I think the results would be completely different. Josh is putting up historic numbers for the Buffalo Bills franchise and for the NFL as a whole. It ain’t glazing if you’re speaking facts. Ravens got more weapons and one of the best running backs in the entire game and the Bills got a better record. The only 3 teams that beat Buffalo so far were well coached, had great QB’s and either outgunned them offensively or out played the defense. You can’t say the same for the Ravens. The Bills snapped Detroits winning record and KC’s undefeated streak, with 17 putting the team on his back. Stop playing.
Actually it's very comparable... And when you do compare it you see that Lamar Jackson is better in every single statistical category except for rushing touchdowns... If you think that's what makes the MVP then give it to Jaylen Hurts because he has more than Josh Allen.
Saquan needs 418 yards in 3 games to break Dickersons record. You don’t think WAS, DAL, NYG know that’s your teams goal? They intend on spoiling that! So no. I think he’ll come up just short of 2K with 1,997 yards
Literally everything they are saying about Josh Allen applies to Lamar. Jump shots? More tds than teams? Rushing? The only difference is that Lamar leads Allen in every single stat except rushing TDs... Oh and Lamar best the brakes of Allen
Lamar is having a spectacular season. Better even than Allen as a passer. The difference is Allen has double-digit rushing TDs as well, and Lamar has more lost fumbles than rushing TDs this year. Allen is a threat to every defense in every aspect of the game. Lamar is just a good (great) passer.
People add Lamar's rushing stats to his greatness, but like to forget running stats when it comes to Allen. They are tied for leading the league in TDs at 37 each. Lamar has fewer interceptions, but more overall turnovers. So when you look at the stat that encompasses all QB stats: QBR, Allen is #1 at 79.4., and Jackson is #2 at 76. For overall stats, Allen is having the better season, AND his team has won more games.
@@RageDaugGreat way to use stats to show one player over another. I’m sorry, Josh Allen is having a spectacular season but Lamar is statistically better this year: 37 total TD vs 36 total TD, 34 passing TD vs 25 passing TD, 68.1 completion vs 64.4 completion, 3 INTs vs 5 INTs, 8 total TOs vs 7 total TOs, 121 passer rating vs 103 passer rating, 76.0 QBR vs 79.4 QBR, 3580 passing yards vs 3395 passing yards… Idk how you’re looking at stats and you think Allen has the better stats over Lamar. I think Allen got this MVP for sure this year but that’s more so because he’s doing this with less and I have to be consistent. That’s why Lamar won his previous MVPs. Lamar is statistically the best QB but Allen is the most valuable to his team
@@raya7052 Josh is tied at 37 TDs, and has less turnovers than Lamar. TDs and Turnovers mean a lot more than completion % or yards, because they have a more direct impact to points, which helps explain why the Bills have lost 3 games and the Ravens have lost 5, and why Josh is 3.5 points higher than Jackson on QBR. Allen is doing less with more, I agree, and statistically, they are very close. But Josh does have a slight statistical edge on Lamar due to less turnovers. Fighting for the #1 seed, with his division locked up, is probably the main reason folks will vote Josh over Lamar though.
@@RageDaugadding on to that, Allen is breaking records week to week, and is definitely the most valuable player to his team and that has been for the past 4 years
I think everybody is forgetting that Josh Allen's performance on Sunday was mainly due to a completely decimated Lions defense. And the Lions came very close to pulling it out. Don't call MVP just yet.
Allen was decimating the lions defense before McNeill and Montgomery got injured. So this excuse is garbage when Bills also had injured list of players.
They forget there was not hutch and many or defense and for people saying the bills blew us out goff had 500 5 tds himself if the lions end up wining that game with those exact Allen stats goff probly still would have been 5 in mvp voting lol LJ had 5 tds today and moholms in in there still some how and he not ever on there levels this year
Since josh is the mvp, the expectations are higher. Isn't that what everybody keep saying?? So he better win the SB. If he doesn't he better get clowned like everybody else
Lamar has more passing yards, more passing TDs, less interceptions, higher passer rating, higher completion percentage, more rushing yards, and Josh Allen is the MVP? Please make it make sense.
@micwest3983 and still had better stats when it comes to yards and tds. So one category makes you mvp? Stop it bro... just admit that Josh is the MVP and your boy has his MVP trophies already. You want your guy to get ot every year. Probably want him on the madden cover every year too.
@@jaybrown2775yeah he should worry about his boy in the playoffs not the mvp ,Lamar has never played well in the playoffs, I'm confident bring on the😮 ravens
Funny how people are arguing about this in the comments but I would be pretty confident in saying Lamar is low key rooting for Josh for MVP. The two seem to like and respect each other quite a bit. Fan bases should follow their lead.
Quit it with Barkley. They hanging onto him breaking the Rushing Record with 17 games. Hes played 14 and hasnt touched OJ's 2003 yard season and OJ did that on a 1 dimensional Bills team. Week in week out, we hear. Josh Allen 1st QB with back to back 2+ Rushing and 2+ Passing TD's. 1st QB to have 3 Rushing and 3 Passing TD's. 1st QB to have a Passing, Rushing and Receiving TD in a game. Bills first team in 15 years to climch division as quickly as they did. Score 30+ Points 8 games straight in comparison to some of the greatest Offenses to ever exist in the game. Breaking Bills team records week in week out. Josh out there setting records, being the first, performing as great as some of the greats. Remind me all the "1st's" Lamar is setting this season.
If the MVP was only about stats Josh should have won MVP last year over Lamar, despite the fact that last year he sat out like 6 total quarters because they were winning by so much... Stat padding is def a thing so I think it's a weak argument anyone who actually watches the games knows that Josh is asked to do more for his team than any other player. He's clearly the MVP
They will glaze tf out of Allen but honestly if Lamar did the same thing or it was in reverse if Allen Lamar’s stats. They would glaze Allen either way.
But he doesn’t… because he can’t… Josh has more than double Lamar’s playoff wins. Lamar’s only good at winning subjective voted awards, not winning important games.
How are you not worried as a bills fan rn???? Your team only scored 6 more points than the other team on one of the most high scoring games for both teams in history. That back to back games btw. Not gonna be good in the offs
Watch the game 35-14 at one point and the game was over. Complete domination, when you have the supposedly #1 team doing onside kicks at 12 minutes in the 4th qtr? Think, observe and learn. Don't just look at the final score.
@ what I'm saying is the last two games the bills are up by only 2 pts. 90-88. I can admit as a lions fan, because of our depleted defense and also after losing Dmo I am EXTREMELY worried about our state of the union. How as a bills fan (if that's what you are, sorry for assuming) are you not?
The funniest thing about the NFL MVP convo is now that narrative is “Josh Allen has no help & Lamar has Henry” but when Josh had diggs, von miller, poyer etc & Lamar was having to be Superman no one ever brought the “help” up for Josh it’s just no consistency & all narratives lol
@@jasonsandlin9650 Lamar fans are some of the biggest whiners in football. You'd think that Allen must have won an MVP based on the no help argument....oh wait, he hasn't...and Lamar Jackson, who these evil narratives are supposedly again...has two. Lol.
Josh is MVP right now. If Saquan runs for 600 yards over the next 3 games he could win it. If Lamar has 2 games against the Steelers and Texans throwing 10 TD’s and no picks he can win it. Prisoner of the moment in this segment
James Jones is 95.3% on it. Lol Lamar just destroyed it and posted a 93 QBR, Allen slowed down the entire game yesterday-it was one of the most dominant performances I've ever witnessed. Dude dropped an Atom bomb 95 QBR and the man didn't break a sweat doing it.
If josh losses 2 games of the next 3, then saquon and lamar are in the conversation? these dudes probably didnt see the remaining schedule of the bills. 2 games against the patriots and 1 game against the jets..can he lose 1 game? yes, maybe. Can he lose 2 games? yes, but its highly unlikely...
@@Anthony98005 he played well and I think it’s fair to believe he is the leading MVP candidate today. MVP voters declaring the race over with 3 weeks left is the only problem I have.
9:51 This man just said “if Josh loses 2 games, that’s still as many losses as Lamar has, so Lamar would still be slightly below Josh”…. How??.. if Lamar beats Pittsburgh and Houston (playoff teams) and Josh loses to the Jets and Pats (garbage teams) and the Bills & Ravens have the same record at 11-5.. the Ravens would be the 2 seed because they beat the Bills Head to Head.. Lamar also has better stats than Josh.. so how would Lamar somehow still be lower than Josh??.. how does that make any sense?.. why did nobody point that out?
Because they don’t care. They been waiting Josh’s entire career to crown him. The media so badly wants Josh to be the best QB but Mahomes, burrow, Jackson and stafford have all done the things the media wishes Allen would do. Just imagine if Allen had the super bowls/mvps of Mahomes, the Super Bowl appearance and back to back afc championship appearances of burrow, the 2x mvp of Lamar or even the superbowl ring stafford has. We would literally never hear the end of it. Allen hasn’t accomplished what those dudes have and the media already trying to claim he is the best they have seen.
Because it's only Allen who's allowed to rush for 1 yard tds. Media wont credit any of his passing tds either they'll say it cus Barkley on his team. He most definitely should be in the conversation, it is just their way of glorifying Allen😊
If the Ravens and Bills end with up with the same record, it goes to Lamar. Josh is the MVP but he has not been better than Lamar this season, let’s stop that.
It’s crazy how y’all try to discredit the ravens win against the bills and say it was earlier in the season, but don’t mention it was early in the season when the ravens loss to the chiefs and the raiders….
Well yea cause even if you wanna ignore the early season losses for the Ravens... they're still not in good shape. The Ravens are 4-3 in the past 7 weeks bro. That's me being generous considering the Giants were pretty much a given.
As of right now its Josh Allen and it's not even close. And I'm an Eagles fan. I would love Saquon to win but they won convincingly without him being a factor. Bills aren't winning like they are without Allen
Lamar is MV3. 4th best passer rating in history AND best td-int for QB over 30 td EVER. It IS over, Lamar has LOCKED IT UP and THROWN AWAY THE KEY. He beat Allen 35-10, mind you, and is carrying a 32nd pass-D and 32nd secondary. Allen is 2-3 against winning record teams. Lamar is 5-3. You guys are CRAZY WORK. Lamar is a historic season, Allen is a great season but not the same level.
In the last 10 weeks of NFL football Jalen Hurts leads the NFL in: WINS TOTAL TDS Least amount of turnovers. 4-1 against winning teams including Lamar.
@alpharob6959 only number you care about is 1 yd td runs lol you make no sense. Check any advanced stat from last year and come back with an argument please.
As a former Lamar hater, how is Lamar not the MVP? Because Henry is a good RB? Because Tucker missed a few kicks? Lamar is on pace to have one of the most efficient passing seasons ever, while ALSO having one of the most efficient running seasons ever.
Bills will not go for killer against pats Jets.. so if you keep want to compare stats?? Get real!! Cold winter northeast weather is tough to accumulate stats. So opponents level won’t matter but grinding game is necessary. Let LJ Barkley play next 3 games in blizzard weather?? Come on, Allen in dorm those teams are death but outdoor?? Stop it!!
@@concord252ableand your always bums in the playoffs as well. You clowns want this mvp so bad because your underperforming quarterback can only get them with bias. Have fun losing in the first round bud.
@@Jasonf0416 joe burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and Matt stafford would all like a word with you after that best passer in the league comment. Heck if we just wanna look at just passing stats this year Lamar clears Josh. Having said all that I got Allen for mvp if season ended today. But I don’t think it’s a lock when you have 3 divisional games left to play.
Can you imagine if Allen played for shady’s favorite team in Philly? They would be undefeated for years. But Philly stuck with a QB with all that talent around him and can’t even throw for 30 TD’s. Ever in his career. Allen been crazy
MVP should mean exactly what it says most valuable player and Josh Allen is the most valuable player for his team. I’m a patriots fan and I’m pushing for the bills. Go JOSH!!!
everyone says josh doesn’t have help that is so crazy he has the best o line in the nfl. his rb is second in the nfl in touchdowns more than saquon. shakir has dropped 1 pass in 2 years. kincaid is literally a young mark andrews. people are delusional. each wr for the ravens has more drops themselves then the entire bills team in the last two years not to mention a bottom 3 oline in the entire league.
I love the Lamar glazers trying to use stats for MVP. If you have actually watched Josh play, especially lately, he is superhuman with mid talent. Clearly the best player in the league now.
Josh Allen has 5 playoff teams on his schedule, bro is doing what he’s suppose to do with an easy cake walk schedule and no division competition 🤣🤦🏽♂️
@ Lamar murdered Allen by 25 points with no defense. Also, Lamar has 10 playoff games on his schedule, double that of Josh. I doubt Lamar loses even 3 games with a schedule that easy in the weak AFC LEAST Division. He had a hard schedule this year and last.
Yeah not winning in the playoffs giving up 40 on defense. Reminds me of the Chief's of old that could put up 40 pts but the defense then allowed so many points as well
Josh Allen earned it this season, but I also need to see this same Josh Allen in the playoffs especially at home perform because the home playoff games say different.
I’m good with Josh Allen getting the MVP. Lamar doesn’t need another one. He is focused on a bigger award. See yall in the AFC championship and may the best team win.
Oh the chiefs that can’t even score 30 points in a game? Bills 30+ 8 games. Tying a record in the nfl. The chiefs that lost by 9 and could’ve been worse a few weeks ago. L take .
The Bills haven't 😂 played anyone...bt lost to the Ravens n Texans in the AFC both teams will be in thr playoffs. The Bills will also lose to the Broncos or Chargers lol.
Whats funny about this, is that now all of a Sudden we are praising Josh Allen for having no one, when outside of this year Lamar has never had anyone up until now… yall gotta stop
The thing that pisses me off about the josh Allen comments is his team was healthy for the most part Detroit still banged up bad and he barely beat them
What is makes ALLEN the mvp? Seriously! He has three wins vs 500 team, he did take down KC and Det but that not what mvp is. He has 12 tds that are within the 5 and 7 of those are from the 1. I didn't know cook or the other rb couldn't get in from there
take away Allen and the bills get blown out every game. he is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER to his team, and that’s what the mvp is about. 14 tds in 3 games is also crazy work
@@jusgocrazyplus mvp isn’t just three games. Can’t ignore all the bad cus you want to! 12 TDS this year are from within the 5 and 7 of those are from the one. Nothing crazy about it when you could hand those off
Please show me all of joshs 10 touchdowns in the past two games that you claim . 5-6 of them 1 yard runs that could’ve went to anyone else .. & still don’t have the stats Lamar does. These narratives and takes are so delusional bruh 😂🤡🤦🏽♂️
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Josh Allen deserves his flowers🤷♂️
Josh absolutely deserves it. No disrespect to Lamar’s season at all, but in terms of who’s doing more for their team, who’s the most valuable, I’d say it’s Josh Allen
I would like to see Josh win it. Him or Lamar i aint mad at either But currently Josh is BALLIN!!!
and josh lost talent; lamar gained henry. its not about who's better but more valuable and its josh.
@@garyt80 I have no problem with Josh winning but stop using Henry as the reason bc when he had none of that and Josh had diggs. No one cared
@@garyt80Josh has Diggs for years & Lamar had nothing
How LJ beat the bills heads up and the games he's lost was on the kicker and the WRs and he would've beat kc in ot had likely foot not been on the line
Allen's best play was called back by everyone's favorite, a soft offensive holding call that could literally be called on every single play.
Josh Allen is the 2024 MVP. Congrads enjoy it Josh.
You defeated the Undefeated Chiefs and stop the #1 seed Lions 11 game win streak.
You did that, you stood on Business 😂
@@JohnathanClark15 u beat the lions with backups stop it
He also has himself in fantasy football. Calling his own run play in the goal line 😂
@@FastLane12345 if it gets you to the hall of fame. Who cares.
@@isaiahbirdsong3702 Yeah, I'm not a lion's fan but these injuries have been devastating. I think they have three more injuries in the last game... That's crazy
@@LegitSavAgree. They got 4 back and lost 3. It is a hard grind to get to the top.
Lamar fans in their feelings as usual in the comments. Josh is clearly the MVP man
Why? He not tops in league in anything
He has way less talent around him than Lamar and yet he's THEE driving force of the #2 seed, beat the 2 best teams in the league, and him and the Bills are breaking statistical records
Mar got 2 already😂 welcome to the Club Josh
@@kevingardiner520 He's got 36 TDs to Lamar's 37.
Last season, Lamar got the nod for having the better record and inferior stats to Allen. Not sure why you wouldn't give the nod to Allen when he's got more wins and just 1 less TD.
@@kghd2647 this argument falls flat🤦🏿♂️
That farmer’s son named Josh Allen is an alien! 👽 I mean you don’t do what he is doing in NFL. And I am watching games for the last 45 years. This dude is insane!
Josh Allen is really HIM 🦹🏽♂️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Josh Allen and Bills have a SUPER soft schedule. Let’s STOP
@@trueson5351womp womp
They just beat the best teams in each conference who were on 9+ win streaks 😂😂😂
Cope
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@@trueson5351people like you are scummy
@@trueson5351they just beat the Lions and Chiefs😂
All the ravens fans bringing up a game from october like it means something. Lamar still fighting for his division allen is fighting for the 1 seed.
@jd229 Allen plays in the 2nd worse division in the league 😂6 free wins vs. the jets ,dolphins, and patriots. I have Allen winning the MVP. But let's not act like he didn't get smoked by Lamar earlier this year.
@@qualinteranzy7948 2nd worse by the end of the season. Everyone and their mother had the Bills 2nd or 3rd in this division this year and called Miami and NY as SB contenders. Dont act like a weak division was known at the beginning of the season. Allen is the most valuable player to his teams success in the NFL. Period.
When people talk about Lamar they bring up the past so it’s fair game right ? Btw I do remember when. burrow came to Buffalo and linked Josh in the snow lol… So ………
@@qualinteranzy7948and to think about josh Allen never ever got a number one seed in that division.
@@michaellee5071 if youre bringing up past season to talk about an MVP race this season, you dont deserve to be in the conversation lol so Allen shouldnt be in the convo because 2 years ago the Joe Burrow locked down Allen wtf
My mentality everytime i see him on tv is “Josh Allen is a fighter! Hes just duking it out week after week”
With very good reasons. Hes balled out and played a perfect playoff season and still lost. Speaks volumes on why hes so hungry.
Barkley had 65 yards rushing on 19 carries...Josh jad 68 yards rushing on 11 carries !!😂😂
That is kinda funny. Through out 300+ yards and multiple TDs of passing stats, and Allen still had a better game than Barkley.
Barkley: 19 carries; 65 yds; 0 TD
Allen : 11 carries; 68 yds; 2 TD
It's ok I'm sure Barkley isn't concerned about the mvp but one thing Josh Allen can't do is beat the eagles
Its pretty simple. He had one returning WR from the 23' season. Bills were all but written off. Why are people forgetting that part of the equation?
Lamar stans out in full force in this comment section.
Josh was also robbed of a 5 TD day as well.
Just like Josh stans? All them yards in the last couple games and still not more than Lamar lmao
@@Dwat95 go beat the best teams in the nfl then............ o wait u lost to the chiefs..... then the raiders and browns.......... lmao lamar cant throw ......allen is 10 X better lmao..... his Wrs are WIDE OPEN EVERY PLAY Because of Derrick Henry.................LAMAR MISSES 5 THROWs A GAME JUST WATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@jksdfgbaslkdfjasfdsdasdgasdfgaso buf the best team? And bal blew them out
@@jksdfgbaslkdfjasfdsdasdgasdfgaYou do know Lamar and Ravens beat him. 35-10
lol 2X MVP, welcome to the club Josh, finally
Josh Allen was the best QB this season hands down
As a Lamar fan and I am sure Lamar himself would agree, no amount of MVP trophies would ever equal a Super Bowl trophy with a Super Bowl MVP. Enjoy it Josh, we have much bigger goals in sight.
Winning A playoff game is a good starter goal. I really hope Ravens handle up Chiefs, then you come to OP and get waxed!
Shady finally speaking sense
Josh and no question. NFL MVP has always been a narrative award, as evidenced by Lamar last year, he's handed the chiefs their only loss and lions their second loss, and he's putting up all the crazy numbers without the turnover numbers that has been the media's reason for him not winning the award previously.
Lamar fans are so salty in these comments😂😂
Fr they get so attached to one game they so sad they don’t mention there guy but last year it was record that mattered now they want it to not matter there delusion is funny
Just like Allen fans last year 🤣
Lamar stans are insufferable
@@tannerbrown4953 ima ravens fan I have no problem with Josh winning the mvp he ballin. It’s how yall change the narrative that’s annoying . Like acho said Lamar got this guy and that guy. But when it was Allen with diggs ect and Lamar with no weapons nobody cared about that
@@larry2281 how ? Bc we call yall out on yall hate and hypocrisy? See lamar fans can give props to other qbs but yall can’t do the same with Lamar. Everything out yall mouth negative.
Acho mentions the ealgle RB and Ravens RB but James Cook has been money as well but they do what they can to prop up who they like...🎯
Barkley has 2x as many yards as him bro. Not denying he’s a good back but it’s NOTHING in comparison to Henry or Barkley
@@mfavingerfv2202 Cook has done a great job with the Bills ...But anything to prop up Allen go ahead
@ nah I’m not saying that to pump up Allen I’m just saying the top two RBs of the league really are in a league of their own rn. Cook has been great there’s no denying that! He plays a key roll for that team and plays it at a high level
Lmfao Saquan lead the league, Henry is #2 -- Cook is like TWENTIETH 😭. Y’all are fuccn ridiculous fam
Josh Allen outrushed Barkley this week, lol. There's a reason QBs always win MVP, QBs outproduce RBs by a metric F-ton. Allen is approaching another 40 plus TD year, Barkely isn't even leading his own team in rushing TDs, his QB is. Look at total yards and total TDs, it's not close (again, this is why QBs always win MVP, and why QBs make more money and get drafted sooner). Everyone was saying the Bills would be garbage this year and Allen has them at 11-3 and they won the east in record time. The eagles were a superbowl team before Barkely showed up, he's playing on a stacked team. To even think it's close race between Allen and Barkley is idiotic, Allen is MVP, far and away, and he should have won it last year too.
Well said bro and true
While I agree with most of what you’re saying, you can’t say Josh deserves it both this year and last year. If he deserved it last year Lamar or Joe deserves it this year if Lamar deserved it last year Josh deserves it this year.
Can someone pin this comment to the top ffs📌
Everyone talking about Lamar fans but I ain’t even seen no comments about them
This time last year they were all saying the same things about Brock Purdy. We're used to it.
Not anymore, because the cooler heads have prevailed and the top comments are now different. In the first hour ish of the video being uploaded 3/4 of the comments were Lamar fans crying.
@@gnohmsthat’s because Yall superbowl is Lamar winning MVP..
Lamar shouldn’t have won it last year
Funny how when they talk about Lamar they bring up who beat him but when they talk about Josh they don’t mention Lamar whoop that kid
Heney did, lamar was average at best in that game 🤦♂️
look at the overall record of allen vs jackson head-to-head, including playoff games
Damn Lamar plays Defense who knew
it was week 4 chill out nobody cares
Josh is wayyyy better than Lamar
I think Allen is clearly MVP right now, but how bad can your receiving options be if you can score 40 and give Amari Cooper zero targets?
Because they have Allen
@@captain_pennsylvaniaI think you misunderstand my point. It is less about Allen and more about game planning. Just bc Burrow is amazing doesn’t mean Chase would ever get zero targets on a game. Obviously cooper isn’t Chase but my point still stands. Your best receiver should never get zero targets in a game…unless he not your best receiver. And if he’s not clearly your best receiver, then your receiving core can’t be that bad
@bladebeast6700 I got your point exactly. Burrow NEEDS Chase for success. Allen doesn't. It's quite simple actually when you watch them both.
@@captain_pennsylvania so bc Allen is so good, you choose not to utilize your best weapon? That doesnt make sense. i guess you think Allen is the best QB of all time because that was never the case with Patty and Kelce, Brady and Gronk, Rodgers and Adams, etc etc. I dont care how good your QB is, it can only help make them better by utilizing their best weapon
@@bladebeast6700 it makes perfect sense, if the opposing team is taking away your best player, you throw it to who they are not concentrating on. Having said that Cooper has only been on the team for a month and he's been injured, he's probably playing hurt still. His other options are good, but not elite, Allen elevates them like Brady used to elevate his good but not great receivers. If Allen had Chase and Higgins his numbers would be even more ridiculous, but not many teams have receiving corps like the Bengals. Remember when Burrow went down last year and the bengals offense kept doing well with the backup QB? That's because the Bengals have elite receivers, not because their backup QB is as good as Burrow. If Allen goes down, the Bills offense will not continue to do well....
I watched this game and noticed that the defense is terrified to even touch Josh Allen so they won't get a penalty call. There were literally defensive linemen standing a foot away from him, letting him throw the ball. It's pathetic. Tom Brady is right.
That’s the winning argument right there. If Josh has his worst game of the season the Bills will get blown out . Can’t say the same for LJ and Saquon
Because they have other weapons. Josh Allen is the offense for the Bills. If Saquon goes out, the line moves by 2 point. If Josh Allen goes out the line moves by 10 points. Who is more valuable to their team? It's Josh Allen and it's not even close.
@@tdtommy196 If Saquon goes out the line moves 2 points because Jalen Hurts wins. All the time.
Then you don’t watch Baltimore games this season.
@@Finnissee0122 Derek Henry has the ability to carry an entire offense/team by himself. Nobody on this he bills can carry that team besides Josh. Bmore literally have to 99 overall rated players lol
@@Chef_Gee Derrick Henry has been held in check multiple games this year. He’s not winning games if Lamar is out. Anytime Lamar hasn’t had a high passer rating, Baltimore has lost. They aren’t a good enough team to win when Lamar doesn’t have elite performances.
The number one thing that all of the analysts forgets that Josh Allen is very intelligent and he's a quick study....... Not the equate, God gave him to some serious equipment to work with, he is here to humble the NFL, because they have no love for the Buffalo bills.
Ravens got an early season W thanks to Derrick Henry being a beast against a weak run defense before the Bills got Amari Cooper & when the Ravens were healthier, if they played again next week or meet in the playoffs I think the results would be completely different. Josh is putting up historic numbers for the Buffalo Bills franchise and for the NFL as a whole. It ain’t glazing if you’re speaking facts. Ravens got more weapons and one of the best running backs in the entire game and the Bills got a better record. The only 3 teams that beat Buffalo so far were well coached, had great QB’s and either outgunned them offensively or out played the defense. You can’t say the same for the Ravens. The Bills snapped Detroits winning record and KC’s undefeated streak, with 17 putting the team on his back. Stop playing.
You guys have 2012 Broncos written all over it.
Lamar Jackson fans would take a 5 dollar bill out of a homeless man’s jar.
Why use homeless people smh
Josh Allen is incomparable he is him 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🦬🦬🦬🦬
Actually it's very comparable... And when you do compare it you see that Lamar Jackson is better in every single statistical category except for rushing touchdowns... If you think that's what makes the MVP then give it to Jaylen Hurts because he has more than Josh Allen.
@sodblitz3445 Allen just casually beat the best team in the nfc and afc in the chiefs and lions 🤫
Win a Super Bowl or it means nothing
@@1inchpunisher715same way the Ravens blew the bills out, casually
@@1inchpunisher715 the Bills lost to the Ravens 35-10 Jackson had 3 TDs Allen had 0 despite everyone agreeing the Ravens D is horrible 🥱
Saquan needs 418 yards in 3 games to break Dickersons record. You don’t think WAS, DAL, NYG know that’s your teams goal? They intend on spoiling that! So no. I think he’ll come up just short of 2K with 1,997 yards
And the Ravens smacked the Bills around!!
At the beginning of the season with this roster. Who cares 😂 cause it really was Derrick Henry
@@Potts87_Thor_RIP_Adp I’m glad week 4 was the ravens Super Bowl since everyone bringing that game up lol
17-3 buddy in the playoffs
That’s why their clinging to even going to the playoffs and lost to Steelers 😅😅😅
Beat y’all ahh in the playoffs
Literally everything they are saying about Josh Allen applies to Lamar. Jump shots? More tds than teams? Rushing? The only difference is that Lamar leads Allen in every single stat except rushing TDs... Oh and Lamar best the brakes of Allen
Play the video when they play the tape back🧏🏼♂️🙏🏼
Would have mad respect for Josh… if when they announce he’s the MVP…. He says……” yea… no thanks” I have a REAL goal I’m chasing!!
Lamar is having a spectacular season. Better even than Allen as a passer. The difference is Allen has double-digit rushing TDs as well, and Lamar has more lost fumbles than rushing TDs this year. Allen is a threat to every defense in every aspect of the game. Lamar is just a good (great) passer.
People add Lamar's rushing stats to his greatness, but like to forget running stats when it comes to Allen. They are tied for leading the league in TDs at 37 each. Lamar has fewer interceptions, but more overall turnovers. So when you look at the stat that encompasses all QB stats: QBR, Allen is #1 at 79.4., and Jackson is #2 at 76. For overall stats, Allen is having the better season, AND his team has won more games.
@@RageDaugGreat way to use stats to show one player over another. I’m sorry, Josh Allen is having a spectacular season but Lamar is statistically better this year: 37 total TD vs 36 total TD, 34 passing TD vs 25 passing TD, 68.1 completion vs 64.4 completion, 3 INTs vs 5 INTs, 8 total TOs vs 7 total TOs, 121 passer rating vs 103 passer rating, 76.0 QBR vs 79.4 QBR, 3580 passing yards vs 3395 passing yards…
Idk how you’re looking at stats and you think Allen has the better stats over Lamar. I think Allen got this MVP for sure this year but that’s more so because he’s doing this with less and I have to be consistent. That’s why Lamar won his previous MVPs. Lamar is statistically the best QB but Allen is the most valuable to his team
@@raya7052 Josh is tied at 37 TDs, and has less turnovers than Lamar. TDs and Turnovers mean a lot more than completion % or yards, because they have a more direct impact to points, which helps explain why the Bills have lost 3 games and the Ravens have lost 5, and why Josh is 3.5 points higher than Jackson on QBR.
Allen is doing less with more, I agree, and statistically, they are very close. But Josh does have a slight statistical edge on Lamar due to less turnovers. Fighting for the #1 seed, with his division locked up, is probably the main reason folks will vote Josh over Lamar though.
@@RageDaugadding on to that, Allen is breaking records week to week, and is definitely the most valuable player to his team and that has been for the past 4 years
@@RageDaug QB sweeps aren't real TDs
I know Josh fans really wishing and hoping...but sorry guys its clearly MV3 🎯💯... Y'all tripping
I think everybody is forgetting that Josh Allen's performance on Sunday was mainly due to a completely decimated Lions defense. And the Lions came very close to pulling it out. Don't call MVP just yet.
Allen was decimating the lions defense before McNeill and Montgomery got injured. So this excuse is garbage when Bills also had injured list of players.
They forget there was not hutch and many or defense and for people saying the bills blew us out goff had 500 5 tds himself if the lions end up wining that game with those exact Allen stats goff probly still would have been 5 in mvp voting lol LJ had 5 tds today and moholms in in there still some how and he not ever on there levels this year
Would've been the same story no matter what
As a lamar fan, f that mvp, give it to josh, but when them playoffs come its up
lol we gonna beat yall again in the playoffs
Playoff?? LJ??? It is laughable!! Come to Buffalo please let’s see what will happen in PO!!
@@NewYorkNYKer FACTS LMAOO we already whoop them, TRUST ME I WANNA PLAY THE RAVENS SO BAD
@@kiggss just because something hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't happen.
@adidabsmith8457 Remind us what happened the last time lamar had to go to Buffalo for a playoff game. We'll wait. 😂
Since josh is the mvp, the expectations are higher. Isn't that what everybody keep saying?? So he better win the SB. If he doesn't he better get clowned like everybody else
He's been getting clowned his whole career... FOH
@@jaynitrophotothat’s a lie and you know it
@samsonlite3334 He was literally named the most overated player last year lol. Are u slow
@@jasonsandlin9650 FOH. So ONE TIME he was clowned versus Lamar since day one. Run along child.
Isn’t Lamar a 2x MVPs???
Lamar has more passing yards, more passing TDs, less interceptions, higher passer rating, higher completion percentage, more rushing yards, and Josh Allen is the MVP? Please make it make sense.
It happens to Josh the last 2 years. Better stats than Lammar but no MVP
@@jaybrown2775Josh had 18 int last year not three
@micwest3983 and still had better stats when it comes to yards and tds. So one category makes you mvp? Stop it bro... just admit that Josh is the MVP and your boy has his MVP trophies already. You want your guy to get ot every year. Probably want him on the madden cover every year too.
Allen's numbers were better then Lamar last year , over tds, on pace for 40 for 5 straight seasons ,it was a record at 4 seasons
@@jaybrown2775yeah he should worry about his boy in the playoffs not the mvp ,Lamar has never played well in the playoffs, I'm confident bring on the😮 ravens
Funny how people are arguing about this in the comments but I would be pretty confident in saying Lamar is low key rooting for Josh for MVP. The two seem to like and respect each other quite a bit. Fan bases should follow their lead.
Quit it with Barkley. They hanging onto him breaking the Rushing Record with 17 games. Hes played 14 and hasnt touched OJ's 2003 yard season and OJ did that on a 1 dimensional Bills team.
Week in week out, we hear. Josh Allen 1st QB with back to back 2+ Rushing and 2+ Passing TD's. 1st QB to have 3 Rushing and 3 Passing TD's. 1st QB to have a Passing, Rushing and Receiving TD in a game. Bills first team in 15 years to climch division as quickly as they did. Score 30+ Points 8 games straight in comparison to some of the greatest Offenses to ever exist in the game. Breaking Bills team records week in week out. Josh out there setting records, being the first, performing as great as some of the greats. Remind me all the "1st's" Lamar is setting this season.
Why so many media guys have a hard time saying the name shakir? Its like they cant grasp the "ir" at the end.
2pac duh
If the MVP was only about stats Josh should have won MVP last year over Lamar, despite the fact that last year he sat out like 6 total quarters because they were winning by so much... Stat padding is def a thing so I think it's a weak argument anyone who actually watches the games knows that Josh is asked to do more for his team than any other player. He's clearly the MVP
They will glaze tf out of Allen but honestly if Lamar did the same thing or it was in reverse if Allen Lamar’s stats. They would glaze Allen either way.
But it wasn’t Lamar. It’s Allen breaking records
But he doesn’t… because he can’t… Josh has more than double Lamar’s playoff wins. Lamar’s only good at winning subjective voted awards, not winning important games.
@@Mystery1140lol exactly
Lamar been getting glazed. Terrible in post season. 2 mvps. Lamar gets wayyyy too much respect.
Brother he has two mvps I think you will be okay they obviously have glazed Lamar
I’ve been wanting Saquan to win. But Josh put together a solid performance. Can’t doubt that
How are you not worried as a bills fan rn???? Your team only scored 6 more points than the other team on one of the most high scoring games for both teams in history. That back to back games btw. Not gonna be good in the offs
Watch the game 35-14 at one point and the game was over. Complete domination, when you have the supposedly #1 team doing onside kicks at 12 minutes in the 4th qtr? Think, observe and learn. Don't just look at the final score.
@ what I'm saying is the last two games the bills are up by only 2 pts. 90-88. I can admit as a lions fan, because of our depleted defense and also after losing Dmo I am EXTREMELY worried about our state of the union. How as a bills fan (if that's what you are, sorry for assuming) are you not?
Lets talk about Detroit's defense. Be fr. U would swear Allen plays every position
The funniest thing about the NFL MVP convo is now that narrative is “Josh Allen has no help & Lamar has Henry” but when Josh had diggs, von miller, poyer etc & Lamar was having to be Superman no one ever brought the “help” up for Josh it’s just no consistency & all narratives lol
Didn't Lamar win the mvp last year lol ? Tf are u talking about.
@@jasonsandlin9650 Lamar fans are some of the biggest whiners in football. You'd think that Allen must have won an MVP based on the no help argument....oh wait, he hasn't...and Lamar Jackson, who these evil narratives are supposedly again...has two. Lol.
We had Von miller for 8 games, since then he has only been a shell of himself
What's funnier is you're crying about nothing. Shut up 💯
You are salty that Josh is the best player in the world.
Josh Allen is a cheat code! He has been playing this good for years and being overlooked and under-rated. It is HIS time. Josh is HIM!
If the Buffalo puts up another 30 + points next week Allen should win the MVP
Josh Allen and Bills have a SUPER soft schedule. Let’s STOP
@@trueson5351 what
Gave up 40 too this week
@@trueson5351Lamar just beat the giants. That's not soft.
@@YuriBoris-s8u they put up 30+ 8 weeks in a row already
the people talking about lamar are funny because he’s not even second… it’s josh or saquon as of right now
It's not about being salty! Look at the individual stats and Baltimore beat them head-to-head pretty handily.
The seasons a lot longer than one game
Bills had more injuries then healthy players that game
@@edwilliams2912 Lamar lost head to head to the 1-6 Browns backup qb. So I guess you think he’s better than Lamar right? 🤡
Then JA won the MVP last year?
Josh is MVP right now. If Saquan runs for 600 yards over the next 3 games he could win it. If Lamar has 2 games against the Steelers and Texans throwing 10 TD’s and no picks he can win it.
Prisoner of the moment in this segment
I don’t know about Lock up
James Jones is 95.3% on it. Lol Lamar just destroyed it and posted a 93 QBR, Allen slowed down the entire game yesterday-it was one of the most dominant performances I've ever witnessed. Dude dropped an Atom bomb 95 QBR and the man didn't break a sweat doing it.
I don’t see how you can say that he locked it up! Lamar Jackson is a lock in my book. Ain’t no way Josh Win, he’s great but Naw.
How do you lose to Minshew and Winston two QBs who Burrow beat. How is Lamar MVP.
Stat-padding against the giants isn’t compelling enough for MVP lock. With all due respect to the 3rd best qb in the league, Lamar Jackson.
Lamar has too many losses the same reason he won mvp last year is the same reason Josh Allen is winning it this year
If josh losses 2 games of the next 3, then saquon and lamar are in the conversation? these dudes probably didnt see the remaining schedule of the bills. 2 games against the patriots and 1 game against the jets..can he lose 1 game? yes, maybe. Can he lose 2 games? yes, but its highly unlikely...
You would think the Bills were just crushing teams the way these guys are talking loool
they have the second highest point differential in the league behind Detroit. So yeah, they are outscoring teams decently
@ they’ve also given up 40+ b2b &one was a loss a week ago.
@@kavontegalloway4301 good thing the MVP is about 1 player. How’d Josh do last week? Just curious
Yes but against two of the most high powered offenses in the league
@@Anthony98005 he played well and I think it’s fair to believe he is the leading MVP candidate today. MVP voters declaring the race over with 3 weeks left is the only problem I have.
9:51 This man just said “if Josh loses 2 games, that’s still as many losses as Lamar has, so Lamar would still be slightly below Josh”…. How??.. if Lamar beats Pittsburgh and Houston (playoff teams) and Josh loses to the Jets and Pats (garbage teams) and the Bills & Ravens have the same record at 11-5.. the Ravens would be the 2 seed because they beat the Bills Head to Head.. Lamar also has better stats than Josh.. so how would Lamar somehow still be lower than Josh??.. how does that make any sense?.. why did nobody point that out?
Because they don’t care. They been waiting Josh’s entire career to crown him. The media so badly wants Josh to be the best QB but Mahomes, burrow, Jackson and stafford have all done the things the media wishes Allen would do.
Just imagine if Allen had the super bowls/mvps of Mahomes, the Super Bowl appearance and back to back afc championship appearances of burrow, the 2x mvp of Lamar or even the superbowl ring stafford has. We would literally never hear the end of it. Allen hasn’t accomplished what those dudes have and the media already trying to claim he is the best they have seen.
I don’t understand how Jalen hurts is not in the mvp conversation it’s really crazy
Because it's only Allen who's allowed to rush for 1 yard tds. Media wont credit any of his passing tds either they'll say it cus Barkley on his team.
He most definitely should be in the conversation, it is just their way of glorifying Allen😊
Who? 😂
Because they can't stop glazing allen
If the Ravens and Bills end with up with the same record, it goes to Lamar. Josh is the MVP but he has not been better than Lamar this season, let’s stop that.
It’s crazy how y’all try to discredit the ravens win against the bills and say it was earlier in the season, but don’t mention it was early in the season when the ravens loss to the chiefs and the raiders….
the loss to the browns wasn't too long ago...
@ if you take away first 2 losses early on in the season bills ravens have same record…
Y’all are struggling to win your division. Tf are you talking about? Y’all didn’t even beat Winston lol.
Well yea cause even if you wanna ignore the early season losses for the Ravens... they're still not in good shape. The Ravens are 4-3 in the past 7 weeks bro. That's me being generous considering the Giants were pretty much a given.
Ravens lost to the browns and Raiders... Josh Allen would eat those teams up anytime
What was he playing when he had them 9 completions and the got POPPED yall keep acting like dude is doing everything when he not
You’re actually slow. You’re clearly just hating without using what brain you have lol. Keep coping loser💀
Lamar still mvp he had 5 TDS last game make it make since 😂
Josh beat the Chiefs. Lamar lost. Josh is MVP. Plus Lamar focus on reaching & winning the Super Bowl.
@ did you forget Lamar beat the bills 😂😂😂
@@iBxngThomasLamar and the ravens lost to a 2 win raiders and a 3 win browns team…… what does that say?
He played the giants there it makes sense lol
@@mr.x817 Lamar dismantled Josh. 3 tds to 0.
The Josh Allen Glaze Committee 😂😂😂
The moronic haters are out in force
As of right now its Josh Allen and it's not even close. And I'm an Eagles fan. I would love Saquon to win but they won convincingly without him being a factor. Bills aren't winning like they are without Allen
Lamar is MV3. 4th best passer rating in history AND best td-int for QB over 30 td EVER. It IS over, Lamar has LOCKED IT UP and THROWN AWAY THE KEY. He beat Allen 35-10, mind you, and is carrying a 32nd pass-D and 32nd secondary.
Allen is 2-3 against winning record teams. Lamar is 5-3.
You guys are CRAZY WORK. Lamar is a historic season, Allen is a great season but not the same level.
In the last 10 weeks of NFL football Jalen Hurts leads the NFL in:
WINS
TOTAL TDS
Least amount of turnovers.
4-1 against winning teams including Lamar.
100%. Lamar's numbers this season are out of this world. He's doing stuff that has never been done before.
Now it's bout numbers cuz last year it wasn't and they both have 37tds so u talking about
@alpharob6959 only number you care about is 1 yd td runs lol you make no sense. Check any advanced stat from last year and come back with an argument please.
@@mattcannon7334 Lamar had mediocre numbers last year and still won MVP 😂😂😂
As a former Lamar hater, how is Lamar not the MVP? Because Henry is a good RB? Because Tucker missed a few kicks? Lamar is on pace to have one of the most efficient passing seasons ever, while ALSO having one of the most efficient running seasons ever.
Didn’t Lamar and the RAVENS smoke the Bills this season?
And the raiders beat the ravens.
@@greendarcnite and Josh beat the lions with backups and
@@greendarcnitetouché hahaha
@@bricew8448 didn’t the browns with a backup qb smoke the ravens this season?
@ ummmm divisional opponents are always a coin flip and Ravens didn’t get smoked. 35-10 is 💨.
Bills will not go for killer against pats Jets.. so if you keep want to compare stats?? Get real!! Cold winter northeast weather is tough to accumulate stats. So opponents level won’t matter but grinding game is necessary. Let LJ Barkley play next 3 games in blizzard weather?? Come on, Allen in dorm those teams are death but outdoor?? Stop it!!
They still not bringing up the fact Lamar beat Josh Allen bad lol
Henry beat the bills bad come on now
Bills had more injuries than healthy players that game bud 😂😂
@sidekickd9 don't mention health and ravens in same sentence we always hurt
@@concord252ableand your always bums in the playoffs as well. You clowns want this mvp so bad because your underperforming quarterback can only get them with bias. Have fun losing in the first round bud.
@@derikwest7943 They also not bringing up the fact Lamar lost to the 1-6 Browns backup QB and ain’t even winning his division but go off I guess
That Bills O-line deserves some respect -- Bills players keep walking into the end zone from anywhere in the red zone.
Josh Allen is a glorified RB!
Your nuts, he’s the best passer in the league
@@Jasonf0416 joe burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and Matt stafford would all like a word with you after that best passer in the league comment.
Heck if we just wanna look at just passing stats this year Lamar clears Josh.
Having said all that I got Allen for mvp if season ended today. But I don’t think it’s a lock when you have 3 divisional games left to play.
Josh Allen is a wild tight end playing QB 🤷🤦... He's on Lj8 level period 💪💯
What running back has 40 TDs four years in a row ?
Can you imagine if Allen played for shady’s favorite team in Philly?
They would be undefeated for years. But Philly stuck with a QB with all that talent around him and can’t even throw for 30 TD’s. Ever in his career. Allen been crazy
Lamar stole the MVP award from Allen last year
Allen wasn’t even in the top 3 lol
No he didn't what have you been watching
MVP should mean exactly what it says most valuable player and Josh Allen is the most valuable player for his team. I’m a patriots fan and I’m pushing for the bills. Go JOSH!!!
These guys and the media are begging to give him the mvp. Just give it to him. half his touchdowns are push tush's lmao
and the reason they are at the 1 yard line is because he threw a bomb or rushed for it . He doesnt have mvp derrick henry behind him.
Just say you don't watch him and move on 😅
everyone says josh doesn’t have help that is so crazy he has the best o line in the nfl. his rb is second in the nfl in touchdowns more than saquon. shakir has dropped 1 pass in 2 years. kincaid is literally a young mark andrews. people are delusional. each wr for the ravens has more drops themselves then the entire bills team in the last two years not to mention a bottom 3 oline in the entire league.
Let’s not forget Lamar beat on Allen so bad, Trubisky had to come in (pause) but that’s y’all MVP😭
😂😂
Brrrruuuhhh 💀
Just like Allen did to Lamar in the Playoffs
No not trubisky 💀
150 passing yards in a game the Bills were designated on defense. Allen is 1-0 vs playoff Lamar who is historically bad
I love the Lamar glazers trying to use stats for MVP. If you have actually watched Josh play, especially lately, he is superhuman with mid talent. Clearly the best player in the league now.
Yeah, I need Lamar vs Allen pt 2 Because the real MVP is in BMore!!
Who Henry??
Baltimore is one and done in the playoffs🤷🏼♂️
@@evanpeters9485 don't delete this comment 💯
@@underground.dreamkingz 17-3 bud
@@underground.dreamkingzyou got it! I just don’t think they are gonna show up in that wild card game
Acho won at the end. With the if Allen loses two games he will have as many loses as lamar. The problem is..he isnt losing two games lol
Josh Allen has 5 playoff teams on his schedule, bro is doing what he’s suppose to do with an easy cake walk schedule and no division competition 🤣🤦🏽♂️
Lamar managing to lose to the raiders and browns. You think Allen made the schedule?
@ Lamar murdered Allen by 25 points with no defense. Also, Lamar has 10 playoff games on his schedule, double that of Josh. I doubt Lamar loses even 3 games with a schedule that easy in the weak AFC LEAST Division. He had a hard schedule this year and last.
@@MANVWIhard schedule? Bengals giants raiders browns cowboys commanders broncos? 😂
@@MANVWI You lost to the raiders and Browns... those are playoff teams?
@@OGking831 You lost by 25 points to a team who lost to the Raiders and Browns while playing in a High School division with an ACC schedule lol
Dan Campbell boneheaded decision to go for an onside kick wrapped it up for Josh Allen.
We gonna talk about how the Bills are giving up b2b 40 point games? Imagine the Chiefs giving up 80 pts in 2 games. Fools gold.
Yeah not winning in the playoffs giving up 40 on defense. Reminds me of the Chief's of old that could put up 40 pts but the defense then allowed so many points as well
@KCTopDawg it's crazy nobody is talking about this. I'm not a JA hater but giving up 40pts in b2b games should be alarming.
This is a video about Josh Allen's MVP status. Last time I checked, Josh Allen doesn't play defense.
@masterotica don't gloss over that it is alarming.
@@KCTopDawgthey just did vs the lions lol
Josh Allen earned it this season, but I also need to see this same Josh Allen in the playoffs especially at home perform because the home playoff games say different.
This show hate Lamar lmaooo
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Lamar plays in the SEC. Josh Allen plays in the mac. Pats, jets, pats again. The glaze and hate is crazy.
I’m good with Josh Allen getting the MVP. Lamar doesn’t need another one. He is focused on a bigger award. See yall in the AFC championship and may the best team win.
He will get beat by the chiefs in the playoffs
Snapple Facts 🤷🏾♂️🤣💯
Mahomes been a Daniel Jones with a great coachung staff in 3 of the last 4 seasons
No he won’t I bet u he won’t
Oh the chiefs that can’t even score 30 points in a game? Bills 30+ 8 games. Tying a record in the nfl. The chiefs that lost by 9 and could’ve been worse a few weeks ago. L take .
The Bills haven't 😂 played anyone...bt lost to the Ravens n Texans in the AFC both teams will be in thr playoffs. The Bills will also lose to the Broncos or Chargers lol.
Josh Allen For MVP without a question. 🔥🔥
Whats funny about this, is that now all of a Sudden we are praising Josh Allen for having no one, when outside of this year Lamar has never had anyone up until now… yall gotta stop
But isn't that why Jackson won MVP last year?
@@mrsnftano, he won because he beat everybody and when they were on the same field he stood out
@micwest3983He won because it was a weak year for mvp. And the top candidate fell off
@micwest3983 Josh Allen unironically beat these teams so yes that argument goes to Josh. If we use stats Dak last year had better numbers
The thing that pisses me off about the josh Allen comments is his team was healthy for the most part Detroit still banged up bad and he barely beat them
Why is the fact that MVP is based on the players' value to the team!!!! And Josh's value CANNOT be disputed.
What is makes ALLEN the mvp? Seriously! He has three wins vs 500 team, he did take down KC and Det but that not what mvp is.
He has 12 tds that are within the 5 and 7 of those are from the 1. I didn't know cook or the other rb couldn't get in from there
take away Allen and the bills get blown out every game. he is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER to his team, and that’s what the mvp is about. 14 tds in 3 games is also crazy work
Take away Mahomes from KC they have 0 wins. Take Lamar away from bal they get blown out they have the worst d in the league
@@jusgocrazyplus mvp isn’t just three games. Can’t ignore all the bad cus you want to! 12 TDS this year are from within the 5 and 7 of those are from the one. Nothing crazy about it when you could hand those off
Josh Allen will beat the brakes off Philly.
Please show me all of joshs 10 touchdowns in the past two games that you claim . 5-6 of them 1 yard runs that could’ve went to anyone else .. & still don’t have the stats Lamar does. These narratives and takes are so delusional bruh 😂🤡🤦🏽♂️
Bro saying Josh isn’t locking it in is crazy this dudes breaking records with no bodies on his team