The fact they are still talking about Tyreek is crazy. The last 2 season with Tyreek they lost in the SB and the AFCCG. Trading Tyreek allowed them to build a defense and they went back 2 back and are 13-1. Ridiculous
It's funny because the defense was trash the first year when they won the title Philadelphia scored all over them in the Super Bowl and Josh Allen has had no trouble with the Kansas City defense well ever in his whole career. That's the guy you're gonna have to be the guy who goes up and down the field on Kansas City's defense like it's Cincinnati's.
Patrick/Josh Games: 106/105 AV: 109/92 Record: 83-23/72-32 Cmp%: 66.7/63.3 Pass Yds: 30,828/25,246 Pass y/a: 7.8/7.2 Pass y/g: 290.8/240.4 Pass TD: 234/185 INT: 74/83 Rate: 102.3/92.8 Championships: 3/0 Pro Bowl: 6/2 All Pro: 3/1 MVP: 2/0 Off POY: 1/0 SB MVP: 3/0. If Josh was a better QB than Mahomes, wouldn't he lead in at least one statistical category or accolade? You want to play the "how did they play in the playoffs against each other" game? OK, I'm glad you asked. In the 3 playoff games they've played, Josh has 81 cmp on 124 att. 43 incompletions. 65% comp. Patrick is 79/105. 26 incompletions. 75% comp. Josh has 802 yds, Pat has 918. Josh 7TD/1INT. Pretty good. Pat has 8 and 0. Josh rating is 98.9, Patrick is 126.6. Josh been sacked 6 times for 69 yards, Pat has been sacked 3 times for 8 yards. Josh has 6.5 y/a, Patrick has 8.7. All Patrick. Once again. You Bills fans are miserable fighting tooth and nail for your boy. Win one important game against Mahomes before you talk.
Josh Allen is incredible today. Not 5 years ago. Not even 2 years ago. TODAY. You 2018, 2020 Mahomes guys are insufferable man. We have never treated anyone like this. You have to be GREAT every year. Otherwise, we gonna keep it moving. Burrow, Allen, Lamar, Goff, Baker, Nix, Daniels are all waaaayyyyy better performers and stories this year. Mahomes aint that dude in 2024 regular season. He might be in the postseason, but he ain't close in the regular season. Stop bringing up the Tyreek Hill days to excuse today's lackluster stats.
Also, can't help but notice you went OUT OF YOUR WAY not to highlight how Allen has twice as many rushing yards and 5 times as many rushing TDs as Mahomes does. Weird. It's almost like you are punishing Allen for the VERY THING THAT MAKES HIM MORE DANGEROUS THAN MAHOMES.....HIS LEGS!!!!!!!!
I have a lot of respect for Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson as a Chiefs supporter. They are all incredible players and if they were my quarterback, I would be defending them tooth and nail. But they’re not, and Mahomes is my QB1. With that being said, Mahomes has something that I don’t think many people factor in: he is mentally tough as nails and fervently tenacious. And the more experience he has in close games and playoff appearances, the more calm and poised he becomes because he is confident in himself (and God) that he and the team can get it done. Overall, Chiefs have the mental edge over other teams because they KNOW how to play under pressure. You watch other teams collapse mentally when things aren’t going their way. Last year’s AFCCG was a classic example. The Ravens were flustered and high with anxiety, abandoned fundamentals, and made mistakes as a result (which the Chiefs capitalized off of). It’s just as much a mental game as it is a physical one. Teams are so desperate to beat the Chiefs that it ends up being their kryptonite. The Chiefs are resilient and veterans at playing on the biggest stage at this point. Therefore, they have an edge over all other teams and Mahomes has an edge over all other quarterbacks. So we will see come January. I’m taking my Chiefs. Thanks for reading my football TedTalk.
He didn’t get active until the last 2-3 games last season. I feel as though the chiefs are saving energy until the playoffs, bc that’s really when their season starts
Kelce is a clutch historically great playoff performer maybe best ever “receiver” in history I would still take him over any TE in the NfL come January
What's funny is people out here thinking no one can critique the Chiefs. It's okay to say the eye test suggests this iteration of the Chiefs does not seem as dominant as the past seasons.
@@rhuttner12 Didn’t look that way in the playoffs. Mahomes had 400 yards of offense last year in the Super Bowl. They picked apart the Bills and they were doing long methodical drives against the Ravens in the Championship game.
@ Do you peoples just pretend that the team around you doesn’t play into a QBs success? Allen was expected to turn a franchise around. Mahomes was expected to take a play off team to A Super Bowl, easier than Allen’s situation.
I always love the 13 second game commentary, "oh the defense just let Josh down!!" trying to discredit Pat for making the plays for that comeback and driving field in OT. We know if it were flipped they'd still be glazing the f out of Josh and no one would be hearing 'oh Pat's defense let him down'
Ankle is concerning? I wish we had some games on tape of him playing with injury. Like a high ankle sprain. Maybe in the playoffs or super bowl even. Just something to see what he looks like playing injured.
The ankle sprain that lasted for 3 months that year? Lmao. He always limps for the camera like a lol b*tch and the runs for a first down like nothing happened.
Andy is a HOF coach who knows how to get his team to peak at the right time. They'll get right for playoffs and everyone will realize they do this every year.
Yeah, Andy's been OFF too... especially last night... you're 11 yards from the endzone and you defer to a FG??... bt later in the game, when you're 50 yards out, that's when you decide to go for it?... He MUST be saving his best decisions for the playoffs as you say. Bc... that was ATROCIOUS
@@prospect689 we’re not taking anything from him to success he’s had in the past, but you cannot say that he’s playing good this year he’s just not, in Travis Kelce, he’s looking like one of the worst tight ends this year. He’s had only two touchdowns this season against two really bad teams. I watch Mahomes this year. There’s times where the pressures come in and he’s not even trying to scramble around and try to make a play. Just seems like he just doesn’t care.
Once Josh beats Patrick in the playoffs when it matters then I’ll call him the scariest QB not saying he ain’t a bad man but he has to get over that hump
lmao cant wait for mahomes to beat josh in the playoffs and everyone goes back to “we are never doubting him again” yea alright gimmie 15 anytime anyday
15 has been way worse than Bengals Andy Dalton in 3 of the past 4 yrs. Its the insane coaching staff. Watch Wentz get in there and light it up like 2002 Rich Gannon with that Reid scheme. Mahomes can't throw deep or process post snap Maybe its a slump Or maybe like Eli post 2016 - he is indeed washed. He is not good outside of the occasional "Mahomes signature plays". Like 2 a game.
It happens every year. The Bills beat them in the regular season and then everyone starts saying this is the year that the chiefs are going to be dethroned. Then when the playoffs come it’s a different story.
@ its just so frustrating how a guy can have a great season and now hes dethroned mahomes ???? like guys even if josh wins one pat has 3 stay consistent
It’s insane how media talk about “off the field” when its comes to kelce you would think he is traveling the world bro is doing nothing but practicing even on the offseason everyone went on vacation also he is literally leading the chiefs in yards how do you want him to do 2 years ago numbers when no one doing it in the chiefs especially pat mahomes
Allen is MVP this season and Mahomes has been mediocre at best... but whom would you rather face in the 4th quarter with a 5 point lead and 1.5 minutes left on the clock??
@@richardmatthews2807 the chiefs lost one game this year and they were down multiple possessions with 1.5 minutes left. So that loss doesn’t meet the criteria. Every game under that scenario they have won.
I genuinely don’t think Josh Allen has ever had a atrocious playoff performance. His playoff stats are so good It don’t even make sense 21 passing touchdowns to just four interceptions in 10 games
I’m sure Mahomes would look a lot better if he had an O-Line that could protect him & give him time in the pocket. Switch Josh Allen with Patrick Mahomes, & see how good Allen would look. Yet, the Chiefs are still 13-1, & shouldn’t be, should tell you just how good Mahomes is, especially coming through in key moments.
@@Kennypowerstruthbombs ok. Funny how folks take offense & have to be childish because someone gives their opinion. Especially when talking sports. It’s never that serious!!! 😂
Josh throwing more TD’s than Mahomes ever has in a season is scarier. Oh wait that’s never happened. My bad. Interceptions though? Josh has that locked up
and as we know, every incomplete pass is 100% the QB's fault. What's actually scary is people thinking a non SB winning QB is scarier than a 3 time SB MVP who is only 29yrs old.
What people forget is Mahomes and Allen have the same amount of experience, more-or-less. They both became starters in 2018. Over the course of those six years: Mahomes, 6 straight AFC Championship games, 4 Super Bowls, 3 Super Bowl wins, postseason record of 15-3. Allen: 1 AFC championship game, 0 Super Bowls, postseason record of 5-5. And if anyone wants to cry about Allen not getting his chances with inferior teams around him, that's pure nonsense.
Doesn't matter what about this season? Brady had 3 SB wins and was the vocal point of the pats offense when they faced the giants and who won that game? Wasn't tom Brady how about we stick to THIS SEASON
And that Chiefs team had already been to the playoffs the 3 seasons prior.....they already had a stacked team just waiting for a better QB than Alex Smith.
@@kenneth9338 They were 9-7 and scored 3Pts in there playoff lose in 2017 before Josh got there and let’s no act like Buffalo hasn’t been one the worst franchise in the NFL this century Meanwhile Chiefs were 12-4 year before drafting Mahomes with the best HC of this era
I think it’s LJ TBH. I noticed BAL made a conscious and deliberate decision to involve LJ in the DESIGNED running attack. They ran a ton more zone /option reads and this is the key to their success because it disrupts defensive keys and makes the game a real 11 v 11 as defense must commit at least 1 defender to his running ability. People don’t realize BAL has been top 3 rushing NFL since LJ has been starter including league leading 4x. This run game is fueled by LJ. With DH it just goes to another level, but you have to use LJs running ability, which they hadn’t been doing. And it’s not to have him go for 100 but it’s to make defenses respect and account for him potentially running EVERY play. Defenders were all over the place and it opened the run and pass game. If BAL doesn’t forget who they are, they have the best chance they’ve ever had to win it all.
@LukeCleary71517 detroit broke all type of traditions this year like beating GB at home and winning on thanksgiving. i wouldn't put too much faith in traditions this season
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jjThing is, Patrick has has the titles, three Super Bowl mvp awards, two MVP awards, has both the post season/regular season passing stats to go along with all of that, does Josh have all of that?
How can this dude with a straight face say nobody is doing what Allen's doing wtf is this guy talking about Lamar has better numbers across the board with a head 2 head victory! Smfh I'm so sick of the disrespect. Last I check Allen hasn't been to a Superbowl either and doesn't have any MVP's and Lamar been doing it with whoever he has for years didn't need flowers to do it!!!! Smh so sick of this bs
Lamar does it against the giants, and gets curb stomped against the eagles and chiefs, while josh Allen elevates and beats those teams. The eye test doesn't lie
@brianhenry7983 blah blah blah. Lamar has beat the eagles before definitely didn't get curb stomped in either of those games! Also we have other signature wins this year. You have no clue what you are talking about
@brianhenry7983 and besides guessing you're a Allen fan. Ravens Curbstomp the Bills this year a actual curbstomping and not a one score game like it was for us against the Chiefs and Eagles so yeah try again
@@keymold4405 it was week 4. It is now week 15. Also. It was not the worst game in history lmao. It was up there for one of the worst completion percentages. But don’t sell a lie by manipulating stats.
Eagles fan here, Wentz is, to me, still a phenomenal QB and I wouldn’t be the tiniest bit surprised if he plays next week and dominates. Wentz is a baller if you protect him.
I can't stand how no one ever acknowledges that the entire league changed the way they played because of the chiefs. There is a reason tyreek was getting less touchdowns before he left. There's a reason Travis hasn't had a break out season. The entire league plays like it's their superbowl when they play the chiefs. That and the only line having issues is why it's been such a shaky season for them. If you actually look at the play footage defenses are playing cheap because that's all they have against the chiefs. But I know no one sees that because they are busy hating.
I’m tired of the rhetoric about Travis not being in shape. ( Pat and Andy have called BS on this narrative in multiple press conferences ) Travis has not missed a day of training camp or practice. The 3 younger tight ends are on IR after practically no production but “washed up” Travis is still playing. As of yesterday Travis has played 170 snaps MORE than the next closest TE, WR or RB. (83% of the snaps 753 total) on the Chiefs. He has been used as bait all Fall while trying to break in the other receivers. DCs and defensive players interviewed say stopping Kelce is a big part of game plan. Amazingly, he tops the Chiefs with 700 receiving yards. Stephen A talk your talk but don’t preface it by saying I love Travis or he’s my friend because if that was true you would talk to him yourself about your off the wall suppositions.
That’s always the problem. EVERY position is important, yet the QB’s think they deserve half the salary cap! 🙄. Then they want to cry about the O line not giving them time. 🤫🤫🤫
They need to protect mahomes more and start running again. First quarter they ran more and performed better and mahomes was safe. Why throw on that 4th down and 1. Protect mahomes, play smart and hand off for a first down.
The Patrick Mahomes hate in these comments is wild and that’s coming from a Commanders fan 😭😂 don’t give me that nonsense about Mahomes went to a already playoff built team, cause that playoff built team got bounced in the first round consistently Mahomes got them over the hump and that’s with the worst defense in the league for and bottom half of the league his first 3-4 years. Allen had a top 10 top 5 defense for his first 3 years - 4 years honestly since he came into the league. So don’t give me the team excuse please. Mahomes even in a down season is the best QB in the league his resume speaks for itself. He’s top 3-4 QB already and he’s still playing. Josh, Lamar, Burrow all having better statistical season but the best is Mahomes until they’ve done what he’s accomplished. Lamar is the only one that got room to talk because of his MVP’s and even then it’s a short conversation.
Josh Alien is definitely a scarier player to face today than Patrick Mahomes today. He may not be as marketable as Mahomes, but he is a flat out menace to behold walking into your stadium.
@@michaelcoletta4547 what have the chiefs got washed kelce, d hop on a snap count, juju (who’s been hurt) and a rookie? Had Kareem hunt off the street, the worst LT in the league and a bottom 10 RT
Travis Playing 4 quarters of football at the same time 4 rounds in the evening with Taylor. Not enough energy for football and Taye. Those knees will start to shake dog. Thats affecting him big time
So let me get this right Lamar beats Burrow and Allen but loses to Mahomes and Allen loses to Lamar buut beats Mahomes so Allen leaps them both ....I need help on this one 🎯
@ true. The issue is when Lamar lost to Mahomes it was embarrassing. When Josh lost to Mahomes it was one of the greatest matches we’ve seen. It also doesn’t help Lamar that in the regular season he’s 1-5 vs Mahomes and Josh is 4-1. Patrick is the Gold Standard. Noticed how Lamar has a winning record Vs Josh and Joe. But Joe beat Mahomes in the AFC championship and Josh had an all out battle and 4-1 vs Mahomes in the regular season. That’s why they look Pass Lamar.
@@TheGIJoe69 no. There’s a difference between wasn’t and is. You’re right that when talking about past seasons, you can say that the person WAS the best. But you can’t say that past seasons means that he IS the best right now. That’s my point. Not one person can make a legitimate case that he is currently the best QB in the league if they’re not allowed to mention his past seasons because his performance this season is above average at best..
I don't understand how they can compare Allen who has 10 seconds in the pocket and Mahomes has 0.1 seconds. The media has been trying to say Josh Allen is the best QB for 5 years. The guy hasn't won anything yet.
Quarterbacks don't line up against each other nor do they play defense! And "earlier this season" is the key statement! The Bills as a team took a while to gel.
I still remember the last time the Bills won in KC in the regular season but once both of them met in the playoffs the regular season game in KC didn't matter because the Chiefs still won in the playoffs.
Mahomes hasn't been good in 3 of the last 4 yrs. He isn't accurate throwing deep and he can't process post snap. Just looks for Kelce. Allen is better. Mahomes just has a way better coaching staff. Those who understand gootball - know what I am talking about.
The only stat as of this moment that Josh Allen is dominating against Mahomes is interceptions. Also 2019 is worse than this season. Are we really going to say Mahomes is horrible because he is putting up average numbers? We have gotten so accustomed to watching Mahomes be “amazing” that we forget that he is still a normal quarterback. He does not have to shine every game. A 200 yard 0:0 td int statline in a 9-0 win is fine with me. If Mahomes puts up 350 yards and 3 tds and 2 ints in a 28-42 loss, why did you put so much effort in a game that would already have been lost?
The chiefs are the most disrespected dynasty and mahomes is the most disrespected qb in nfl history. The patriots were never picked against, Brady was never the nest qb but never critiques at all....yet you do this to a kc team that just won by 14....
The only thing Patrick Mahomes has over Josh Allen are the titles. There’s no argument based on this season alone that you could make that Patrick Mahomes is playing better QB than Josh Allen.
He has more than just titles. Look at his post season stats. He is one of the best ever in the playoffs. 15-3 post season record. Many of those game down by 10.
@@TheGIJoe693 of the past 4 seasons Mahomes has been worse than Bengals Andy Dalton. He isn't good anymore. Just got arguably the best coacgung staff ever.
@@erikpuka2627You’re crazy dawg. He’s still absolutely elite, and in the postseason he’s the one I’d take every time. Josh Allen is really good, but Mahomes’ resume speaks for itself. Yeah Andy Reid is a HUGE reason for Mahomes’ success, but to say Mahomes is bad is RIDICULOUS. Have you seen his o-line? See that they’re 13-1? 15-3 in the playoffs? Andy deserves credit but don’t act like Mahomes isn’t an absolute dawg and the most clutch QB in the NFL
The last couple of years, Lamar and the ravens had tons af injuries, but you guys never talk about that, just that he wets the bed. You guys move the goal post for different guys. You don't judge everyone from the same scale.
Mahomes has shown to be better at every turn on the biggest stage to Allen. The AFC Divisional was the only time they were equals in a meaningful game.
That's exactly right. It was the mirror image of the game that Mahomes and Brady had in the divisional playoffs in the 18 season. Got decided on a coin toss and whoever had the ball first in the OT won. Only difference is that after it happened with Allen, the NFL changed the rules around due to the "injustice."
9:51, One of those people Molly is talking about is the great Stephen A. Smith, the 100-MILLION-dollar man himself. 💰💸He deserves it too. But Stephen A. right before the season started said the Bills would miss the playoffs. In fact, he said we would battle for LAST in the AFC East. Well...that was wrong🎤💯However, TOTAL respect for Patrick Mahomes, he's STILL the top QB in the NFL until he's beat by someone. Josh is my QB, he is the MVP, be even he knows we have to keep rolling. We have tough games and teams ahead, we have to keep playing, keep rolling, keep WINNING!💯
@@williedaviskcmo Who's "yall"? It's all about being a team sport from the head coach on down, but simpletons equate team wins to one position, they think it's QB 1 vs QB 2 even though they don't line up against each other. There have been average quarterbacks whose team won Super Bowls and great quarterbacks who have never experienced a Super Bowl win because it's a team sport. Put Josh Allen on Andy Reid's Chiefs or Mahomes on McDermott's Bills and the records would be completely different. When Allen throws a touchdown and goes ahead with 13 seconds left, never touches the ball again and his team loses, that's not a quarterback problem
It’s a new best qb every week espn switch up so much it’s ridiculous right now mahomes is the best until he gets knocked off 2 rings and the number 1 record in the league currently regardless of how y’all wanna slice it KS and Mahomes are on top until they get beat Josh and Lamar haven’t proved they can win when it matters
?? Kelce was incredible in the playoffs last year. Also the beautiful thing about Kelce is he gets open when Pat is scrambling. Pat doesn't have the same amount of time to get Kelce the ball.
@ what makes it more blatant is that the ravens beat down bills and lamar outperformed Allen in that game. As well as almost every passing stat in favor of Lamar this year.
It's simple, josh is playing better than mahomes right now, and may even be a better QB, but better teams win, not just the better of the 2 players, and right now chiefs still are a better team, I'm talking from coaching to the players
@QYgod I certainly think the defense for the Chiefs is better than the Bills. But the offense...needs to come together, like last year, for instance. What some may forget, the Bills only barely beat the Chiefs, only the Allen heroics at the end made the difference. They're the nemesis. The Bills might get the Chiefs this year...might. 😁
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL SHANNON SHARP JOSH IS THE BEST REDZONE QB IN HISTORY AND HAS NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH TURNOVERS IN THE ENDZONE! Dude has been saying all year how he turns it over in the end zone and takes points off the board. He literally couldn’t be more wrong.
It's weird non of these experts can't pinpoint the glaring issue of the Chiefs offense being Matt Nagy. They bring up Hill but Mahomes had 5200 yards and 41 touchdowns without Hill and won the MVP in 2022 under a different offensive coordinator. I think it's very clear.
To the Lamar Jackson point I definitely think he gets in his own head or just following the playbook and not using his legs to create a spectacular play or score. All the scrutiny he’s faced, “he should be a runner” “play WR” “play TE or DB” no bro listen to your heart and do what you do best.
Honestly, a Buffalo Philly SB isnt as big as a Buffalo Chiefs AFC championship. Because that is basically the SB. Its literally the best rivalry in the nfl.
Travis Kelcy was a physical freak his first 5 seasons. I’m a giants fan and I watched that dude catch a ten yard pass and take it to the crib at TE. Screens plays I’m out.
Mahomes d-ride is insane He is playing average at best Remember when he went out and Chad fkin Henne marched down the field and scored td TWICE Same is gonna be with Wenz They are stacked on defense and Reid is a savant
There go Stephen a dressin like an undercover cop again
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The fact they are still talking about Tyreek is crazy. The last 2 season with Tyreek they lost in the SB and the AFCCG. Trading Tyreek allowed them to build a defense and they went back 2 back and are 13-1. Ridiculous
I was gonna say the same thing hes literally been gone for almost 3 years now and they won 2 superbowls without him like what
I'm glad they put molly on the side
And even with Tyreek they wouldn’t be much different because of the offensive line and Mahomes himself playing subpar
It's funny because the defense was trash the first year when they won the title Philadelphia scored all over them in the Super Bowl and Josh Allen has had no trouble with the Kansas City defense well ever in his whole career. That's the guy you're gonna have to be the guy who goes up and down the field on Kansas City's defense like it's Cincinnati's.
They're literally undefeated since trading tyreek haha
Stephen A talking about Tyreek like the Chiefs have not won back to back Super Bowls without him 😂😂😂
Some people can’t let it go
He mentioned that
It’s just not the same with out him. But they do win so 🤷♂️
Laughable
Defense wins championships
Gimme Mahomes on one leg
This year? You'll be taking the L
@@mikep3813Nah…No other QB has his desire to win! He LITERALLY imposes his WILL in the playoffs and that’s why he’s won the way he has.
@@mikep3813I’ll be back, again, what is this your guys 6 th year trying to beat us?🤣
@@bmajorblack As in, getting shut out in the 2nd half of the AFCCG but still winning because of your defense?
@@gbrow1604not to mention his first TD drive in the SB came after a muffed punt in the 3rdQ 😂😂😂 mid asf
Patrick/Josh
Games: 106/105
AV: 109/92
Record: 83-23/72-32
Cmp%: 66.7/63.3
Pass Yds: 30,828/25,246
Pass y/a: 7.8/7.2
Pass y/g: 290.8/240.4
Pass TD: 234/185
INT: 74/83
Rate: 102.3/92.8
Championships: 3/0
Pro Bowl: 6/2
All Pro: 3/1
MVP: 2/0
Off POY: 1/0
SB MVP: 3/0.
If Josh was a better QB than Mahomes, wouldn't he lead in at least one statistical category or accolade? You want to play the "how did they play in the playoffs against each other" game? OK, I'm glad you asked. In the 3 playoff games they've played, Josh has 81 cmp on 124 att. 43 incompletions.
65% comp.
Patrick is 79/105. 26 incompletions.
75% comp.
Josh has 802 yds,
Pat has 918.
Josh 7TD/1INT. Pretty good.
Pat has 8 and 0.
Josh rating is 98.9,
Patrick is 126.6.
Josh been sacked 6 times for 69 yards, Pat has been sacked 3 times for 8 yards.
Josh has 6.5 y/a, Patrick has 8.7.
All Patrick. Once again. You Bills fans are miserable fighting tooth and nail for your boy. Win one important game against Mahomes before you talk.
Josh Allen is incredible today. Not 5 years ago. Not even 2 years ago. TODAY. You 2018, 2020 Mahomes guys are insufferable man. We have never treated anyone like this. You have to be GREAT every year. Otherwise, we gonna keep it moving. Burrow, Allen, Lamar, Goff, Baker, Nix, Daniels are all waaaayyyyy better performers and stories this year. Mahomes aint that dude in 2024 regular season. He might be in the postseason, but he ain't close in the regular season. Stop bringing up the Tyreek Hill days to excuse today's lackluster stats.
Also, can't help but notice you went OUT OF YOUR WAY not to highlight how Allen has twice as many rushing yards and 5 times as many rushing TDs as Mahomes does. Weird. It's almost like you are punishing Allen for the VERY THING THAT MAKES HIM MORE DANGEROUS THAN MAHOMES.....HIS LEGS!!!!!!!!
okay but this about this season don't bring up stats from years ago
@@grantviviano4615 Mahomes has won an MVP and 2 superbowls without Tyreek so....
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DOEM LIKE DAT....I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU 😁
I have a lot of respect for Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson as a Chiefs supporter. They are all incredible players and if they were my quarterback, I would be defending them tooth and nail. But they’re not, and Mahomes is my QB1. With that being said, Mahomes has something that I don’t think many people factor in: he is mentally tough as nails and fervently tenacious. And the more experience he has in close games and playoff appearances, the more calm and poised he becomes because he is confident in himself (and God) that he and the team can get it done. Overall, Chiefs have the mental edge over other teams because they KNOW how to play under pressure. You watch other teams collapse mentally when things aren’t going their way. Last year’s AFCCG was a classic example. The Ravens were flustered and high with anxiety, abandoned fundamentals, and made mistakes as a result (which the Chiefs capitalized off of). It’s just as much a mental game as it is a physical one. Teams are so desperate to beat the Chiefs that it ends up being their kryptonite. The Chiefs are resilient and veterans at playing on the biggest stage at this point. Therefore, they have an edge over all other teams and Mahomes has an edge over all other quarterbacks. So we will see come January. I’m taking my Chiefs. Thanks for reading my football TedTalk.
Travis Kelce isn’t distracted, he’s just old 🙂↕️
Maybe both. 🤷
Distracted, old, and out of shape
He didn’t get active until the last 2-3 games last season. I feel as though the chiefs are saving energy until the playoffs, bc that’s really when their season starts
He got 2 more years left tops
Kelce is a clutch historically great playoff performer maybe best ever “receiver” in history I would still take him over any TE in the NfL come January
It’s crazy to say a team that is 13-1
Is struggling
Well that's why it's a regular season and a post season 😂
Yea but they always get them friendly flags when game on the line😂😂😂
2020 steelers, 2022 vikings and the 2023 eagles were marketed to struggle, I really don't see the difference between them and the current chiefs team
If you were an actual football watcher you would understand why they are struggling
What's funny is people out here thinking no one can critique the Chiefs. It's okay to say the eye test suggests this iteration of the Chiefs does not seem as dominant as the past seasons.
I can’t believe the level of disrespect Mahomes get’s for being a 3 time Super Bowl MVP, 2 Time NFL MVP, future first ballot HOF. Make it make sense.
He’s been carried for 2 seasons.
Not to mention Mahomes has helped get the Chiefs to at least the AFC championship every year he's started. Josh has been there.... once.
@@rhuttner12 Didn’t look that way in the playoffs. Mahomes had 400 yards of offense last year in the Super Bowl. They picked apart the Bills and they were doing long methodical drives against the Ravens in the Championship game.
@ Do you peoples just pretend that the team around you doesn’t play into a QBs success? Allen was expected to turn a franchise around. Mahomes was expected to take a play off team to A Super Bowl, easier than Allen’s situation.
@ Allen is lights out in the play offs, he doesn’t have the supporting cast to help him….
Even in the 13 secs game, Allen had by far the better defense than Mahomes. People forget that Tyrann Mathieu literally went down early in the game
Mahomes is simply the most clutch ever next to Tom
Give Allen prime Kelce and Hill, and he’d win Super Bowls.
I always love the 13 second game commentary, "oh the defense just let Josh down!!" trying to discredit Pat for making the plays for that comeback and driving field in OT. We know if it were flipped they'd still be glazing the f out of Josh and no one would be hearing 'oh Pat's defense let him down'
@@rhuttner12he’d throw 30 interceptions we already saw him with a top 10 receiver
@@rhuttner12 he had Diggs. He lost against Mahomes, twice. Mahomes didn't have Hill, and still won the superbowl. What a stup*d take
Ankle is concerning? I wish we had some games on tape of him playing with injury. Like a high ankle sprain. Maybe in the playoffs or super bowl even. Just something to see what he looks like playing injured.
They won a superbowl 2 years ago when he had a high ankle sprain. The O -line and team in general was much better that year though.
Lmfao honestly I think it's a Lil more scary this year cause of the wr injuries and the o line
@@nobonesaboutit7639He was being sarcastic.
The ankle sprain that lasted for 3 months that year? Lmao. He always limps for the camera like a lol b*tch and the runs for a first down like nothing happened.
Andy is a HOF coach who knows how to get his team to peak at the right time. They'll get right for playoffs and everyone will realize they do this every year.
Yeah, Andy's been OFF too... especially last night... you're 11 yards from the endzone and you defer to a FG??... bt later in the game, when you're 50 yards out, that's when you decide to go for it?... He MUST be saving his best decisions for the playoffs as you say. Bc... that was ATROCIOUS
Man that set is fire!!
Reminds me of early 2000s sports center
This set look amazing
This is disrespectful to Patrick 🤦🏾♂️
not even, facts is facts no matter how much it offends people with the right context behind it
@@prospect689 we’re not taking anything from him to success he’s had in the past, but you cannot say that he’s playing good this year he’s just not, in Travis Kelce, he’s looking like one of the worst tight ends this year. He’s had only two touchdowns this season against two really bad teams. I watch Mahomes this year. There’s times where the pressures come in and he’s not even trying to scramble around and try to make a play. Just seems like he just doesn’t care.
That’s how they do when it downs to Josh Allen smh
@@prospect689Patrick is scarier
A patriot fan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
SAS dressed like Jamaica Helicopter Pilot 😂
bro mahomes clear josh
Of course Lamar is under more pressure… and not the guy you ALL have been glazing 😂😂 makes so much sense
No glazing but Lamar is the best qb in nfl and finna win his 3rd mvp
Lamar whackson is garbage. Straight 🗑️
@ I hope so 🤫 don’t say it too loud tho bro, the Allen glazers are lurking 🤫
@@StepBlvckI am a chiefs fan but remember guys it is NEVER Josh Allen’s fault it’s always a team game when he loses and never when he wins
@JuwanDunbar-b6u he's not better than allen or burrow.
Once Josh beats Patrick in the playoffs when it matters then I’ll call him the scariest QB not saying he ain’t a bad man but he has to get over that hump
I agree with you and I’m a Bills fan
Chiefs are depleted & Bills have the better team so they should win this year lol
@@MikkiChavez chiefs have the better supporting cast what are you smoking
@@seanstaral3858 no they don't. Foh w that idiocy
lmao cant wait for mahomes to beat josh in the playoffs and everyone goes back to “we are never doubting him again” yea alright gimmie 15 anytime anyday
15 has been way worse than Bengals Andy Dalton in 3 of the past 4 yrs. Its the insane coaching staff. Watch Wentz get in there and light it up like 2002 Rich Gannon with that Reid scheme.
Mahomes can't throw deep or process post snap
Maybe its a slump
Or maybe like Eli post 2016 - he is indeed washed. He is not good outside of the occasional "Mahomes signature plays". Like 2 a game.
@@erikpuka2627 go to the doctor and have your brain checked
It happens every year. The Bills beat them in the regular season and then everyone starts saying this is the year that the chiefs are going to be dethroned. Then when the playoffs come it’s a different story.
@ its just so frustrating how a guy can have a great season and now hes dethroned mahomes ???? like guys even if josh wins one pat has 3 stay consistent
😂😂stop tht the chiefs is not goin BCK ND FORTH WIT BILLS OK SCORIN SORRY
It’s insane how media talk about “off the field” when its comes to kelce you would think he is traveling the world bro is doing nothing but practicing even on the offseason everyone went on vacation also he is literally leading the chiefs in yards how do you want him to do 2 years ago numbers when no one doing it in the chiefs especially pat mahomes
I won't doubt Patrick ever!!
I won't either, we've seen how far the refs will go to save this person for some reason
@@tynao2029y’all have to stop with this ref narrative it’s horribly wrong
Allen is MVP this season and Mahomes has been mediocre at best... but whom would you rather face in the 4th quarter with a 5 point lead and 1.5 minutes left on the clock??
Depends, are their rosters equivalent or not? Allen is expected to do more, and play better to win games, than what Mahomes is expected to do.
This year, I'd rather face Mahomes.
@@peterjohnson1734you would have lost every game this year under that circumstance 💀
@@will-zj5gqnot every game but just about every game lmao
@@richardmatthews2807 the chiefs lost one game this year and they were down multiple possessions with 1.5 minutes left. So that loss doesn’t meet the criteria. Every game under that scenario they have won.
I genuinely don’t think Josh Allen has ever had a atrocious playoff performance. His playoff stats are so good It don’t even make sense 21 passing touchdowns to just four interceptions in 10 games
When he played the Dolphins and when he played the Bengals
His 1st playoff game vs the Texans was terrible too
@@jca7343Exactly 💯 🤷♂️😂.. tf is this guy talkin about
I’m sure Mahomes would look a lot better if he had an O-Line that could protect him & give him time in the pocket. Switch Josh Allen with Patrick Mahomes, & see how good Allen would look. Yet, the Chiefs are still 13-1, & shouldn’t be, should tell you just how good Mahomes is, especially coming through in key moments.
If Josh was on the Chiefs these last 5 years, he would have 4 rings clown.
We have seen Allen with Mahomes O line. Pretty much his first 5 seasons with dreadful protection.
@@Kennypowerstruthbombs ok. Funny how folks take offense & have to be childish because someone gives their opinion. Especially when talking sports. It’s never that serious!!! 😂
@@KennypowerstruthbombsDumbass no he wouldn’t! Allen has had better teams than Mahomes and still didn’t win!
Chiefs would be undefeated if Josh Allen was their qb
Netflix is like wtf Mahomes isn’t gonna play on Christmasand we paid all tht money lol
Mahomes is definitely scarier than Josh. Mahomes made 8 incomplete passes in a row yesterday, that's scary!!!
Josh throwing more TD’s than Mahomes ever has in a season is scarier. Oh wait that’s never happened. My bad. Interceptions though? Josh has that locked up
and as we know, every incomplete pass is 100% the QB's fault. What's actually scary is people thinking a non SB winning QB is scarier than a 3 time SB MVP who is only 29yrs old.
Horrible analogy
Matt Nagy is the problem with the Chiefs offense.
What people forget is Mahomes and Allen have the same amount of experience, more-or-less. They both became starters in 2018. Over the course of those six years: Mahomes, 6 straight AFC Championship games, 4 Super Bowls, 3 Super Bowl wins, postseason record of 15-3. Allen: 1 AFC championship game, 0 Super Bowls, postseason record of 5-5. And if anyone wants to cry about Allen not getting his chances with inferior teams around him, that's pure nonsense.
Doesn't matter what about this season? Brady had 3 SB wins and was the vocal point of the pats offense when they faced the giants and who won that game? Wasn't tom Brady how about we stick to THIS SEASON
And that Chiefs team had already been to the playoffs the 3 seasons prior.....they already had a stacked team just waiting for a better QB than Alex Smith.
Mahomes had Kelce and hill while Allen had kelvin benjamin, John brown, Cole Beasley and Charles clay for the first 2 of those seasons
@@mikep3813bills went to the playoffs the year before Josh was drafted 2
@@kenneth9338 They were 9-7 and scored 3Pts in there playoff lose in 2017 before Josh got there and let’s no act like Buffalo hasn’t been one the worst franchise in the NFL this century
Meanwhile Chiefs were 12-4 year before drafting Mahomes with the best HC of this era
Still talking about Tyreke is crazy we won two bowl without that man why isn’t he taking it to the house in Miami lol 😂
I think it’s LJ TBH. I noticed BAL made a conscious and deliberate decision to involve LJ in the DESIGNED running attack. They ran a ton more zone /option reads and this is the key to their success because it disrupts defensive keys and makes the game a real 11 v 11 as defense must commit at least 1 defender to his running ability. People don’t realize BAL has been top 3 rushing NFL since LJ has been starter including league leading 4x. This run game is fueled by LJ. With DH it just goes to another level, but you have to use LJs running ability, which they hadn’t been doing. And it’s not to have him go for 100 but it’s to make defenses respect and account for him potentially running EVERY play. Defenders were all over the place and it opened the run and pass game. If BAL doesn’t forget who they are, they have the best chance they’ve ever had to win it all.
Well said bro it’s what I been saying since the afc game last season Baltimore easily beats Philly if Lamar Plays his game
Patrick on a bad ankle is scarier than the best version of Josh 😂😂😂
Only to those who blindly worship Mahomes. (No childish emojis required)
Get off Mahomes D 🥒
@@peterjohnson1734Mahomes won a Super Bowl on one leg ….Allen hasn’t even made it to the superbowl with BOTH legs
@@peterjohnson1734 not really. Mahomes with a bad ankle won the superbowl against one of the best defenses in history
@@chino4gaming406factssss Josh is the ultimate front runner when games are close most the time he freezes up
Keep this same energy when we 3 peat!!!
Y'all not beating the Bills this year. It will be a Lions vs Bills SB and if lions dont come to win Bills will
Lmao sure kid
@@Onikagit’s a tradition we let them beat us in the regular season then we beat them in the playoffs
@LukeCleary71517 detroit broke all type of traditions this year like beating GB at home and winning on thanksgiving. i wouldn't put too much faith in traditions this season
@@Onikag y'all said that last year, when they beat the Bills on the road, lol!
Patrick. The Beast comes out in the Playoff.
The dude with the superbowls is better hands down its not close
Agreed. That’s why I think Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were better QBs than Dan Marino.
🙄🤦♂️
@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj your entitled to your opinion if that's what you think
@@gregoryharvey3713
Whoosh!
Someone went to public school. Yikes…
Try answering the question about this season alone.
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jjThing is, Patrick has has the titles, three Super Bowl mvp awards, two MVP awards, has both the post season/regular season passing stats to go along with all of that, does Josh have all of that?
How can this dude with a straight face say nobody is doing what Allen's doing wtf is this guy talking about Lamar has better numbers across the board with a head 2 head victory! Smfh I'm so sick of the disrespect. Last I check Allen hasn't been to a Superbowl either and doesn't have any MVP's and Lamar been doing it with whoever he has for years didn't need flowers to do it!!!! Smh so sick of this bs
Lamar does it against the giants, and gets curb stomped against the eagles and chiefs, while josh Allen elevates and beats those teams. The eye test doesn't lie
@brianhenry7983 blah blah blah. Lamar has beat the eagles before definitely didn't get curb stomped in either of those games! Also we have other signature wins this year. You have no clue what you are talking about
@brianhenry7983 and besides guessing you're a Allen fan. Ravens Curbstomp the Bills this year a actual curbstomping and not a one score game like it was for us against the Chiefs and Eagles so yeah try again
@@brianhenry7983Allen got blown out against the worst defense in the league end of discussion and had the worst game of all time.
@@keymold4405 it was week 4. It is now week 15. Also. It was not the worst game in history lmao. It was up there for one of the worst completion percentages. But don’t sell a lie by manipulating stats.
I got a feeling Carson Wentz is gonna be in there next week and play great. That’s what Andy Reid does.
He was a MVP Finalist vs Pat till his leg blew
I don't think so, he hasn't looked great when he's been in so far
Eagles fan here, Wentz is, to me, still a phenomenal QB and I wouldn’t be the tiniest bit surprised if he plays next week and dominates. Wentz is a baller if you protect him.
Wentz is not good. He's washed.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld
We’ll find out.
Allen is a different post season QB , Mahomes is great all the time and has proven to be the one yo be over & over again !
JOSH ALLEN 9/32 0TDS WEEK 5
JOSH ALLEN 16/29 0TDS WEEK 4
Has to go back 10 weeks to try to make some sort of point!
Want me to cherry pick Mahomes stats from this season?
Josh Allen 22/37 6 TOT TDs week 14 L
Stats are not everything when your defense is nonexistent.
Defense wins championships
@@peterjohnson1734tf you mean go back? It's the season for MVP you idiot. Every game matters it's the MVP
@@elikramer9234The most dangerous enemy is the opponent you underestimate.
I love this talk. This talk is why 15 is going to be IMMORTAL 💯
Of course "they" want to say Allen is better. They're judgment is always clouded by one specific thing about a person.... Smh
Show me one time this show has lobbied for a black coach to be fired. This show pushes race narratives
I can't stand how no one ever acknowledges that the entire league changed the way they played because of the chiefs. There is a reason tyreek was getting less touchdowns before he left. There's a reason Travis hasn't had a break out season. The entire league plays like it's their superbowl when they play the chiefs. That and the only line having issues is why it's been such a shaky season for them. If you actually look at the play footage defenses are playing cheap because that's all they have against the chiefs. But I know no one sees that because they are busy hating.
Mahomes is prolly the 5th best qb in the NFL
Stats wise he's closer to 10th. Blasphemy I know
@@grantviviano4615chiefs are injured that's why
@@grantviviano4615 that's true, he's about the 10th best QB in the NFL
You guys should be drug tested. Patrick is the best player ever. Let alone quarterback.
I’m tired of the rhetoric about Travis not being in shape. ( Pat and Andy have called BS on this narrative in multiple press conferences )
Travis has not missed a day of training camp or practice. The 3 younger tight ends are on IR after practically no production but “washed up” Travis is still playing. As of yesterday Travis has played 170 snaps MORE than the next closest TE, WR or RB. (83% of the snaps 753 total) on the Chiefs.
He has been used as bait all Fall while trying to break in the other receivers. DCs and defensive players interviewed say stopping Kelce is a big part of game plan. Amazingly, he tops the Chiefs with 700 receiving yards.
Stephen A talk your talk but don’t preface it by saying I love Travis or he’s my friend because if that was true you would talk to him yourself about your off the wall suppositions.
KC needs to spend a fortune on a top notch offensive line
That’s always the problem. EVERY position is important, yet the QB’s think they deserve half the salary cap! 🙄. Then they want to cry about the O line not giving them time. 🤫🤫🤫
Their 3 middle of o line are best in game
They need to protect mahomes more and start running again. First quarter they ran more and performed better and mahomes was safe. Why throw on that 4th down and 1. Protect mahomes, play smart and hand off for a first down.
Mahomes is on a whole different level than any other QB in the NFL, Mahomes will go down IMO as the greatest QB in history..
Stop living 3 years ago, josh has outplayed him the last three years and it's not even close. Even burrow is better
Mahomes was on a whole different level, but that was then, this is now!
@@brianhenry7983in the last three years mahomes has a MVP , 2SB’s and 2 SBMVP’s josh has not been better
@@daquaylenavie3740 he's on a better team that's all, josh is superior
@@brianhenry7983 he’s really not
This year: Allen. He's earned MVP
Career: Mahomes. Grim Reaper reaps. 3 SBs including some wins in the dying moments.
Not ready to call Allen scarier than Mahomes but been ready to call Kelce and Hill first ballot HoF...
🫡
The Playoffs are going to be explosive this year! Chiefs, Bills, Steelers, Lions, Eagles, Vikings whoooo 🔥🔥🔥🏈
Worthy is picking up steam and they’re getting hollywood back. Not worried.
Stephen A up there looking like Fonzie from Happy Days,Ayyyyy😅😅😅
The Patrick Mahomes hate in these comments is wild and that’s coming from a Commanders fan 😭😂 don’t give me that nonsense about Mahomes went to a already playoff built team, cause that playoff built team got bounced in the first round consistently Mahomes got them over the hump and that’s with the worst defense in the league for and bottom half of the league his first 3-4 years. Allen had a top 10 top 5 defense for his first 3 years - 4 years honestly since he came into the league. So don’t give me the team excuse please. Mahomes even in a down season is the best QB in the league his resume speaks for itself. He’s top 3-4 QB already and he’s still playing. Josh, Lamar, Burrow all having better statistical season but the best is Mahomes until they’ve done what he’s accomplished. Lamar is the only one that got room to talk because of his MVP’s and even then it’s a short conversation.
It’s good to see a non chiefs fan not be delusional and give good takes
the most honest and unbiased take ive ever seen from a non chiefs fan, kudos.
Stop disrespecting the Chiefs.
Josh Alien is definitely a scarier player to face today than Patrick Mahomes today. He may not be as marketable as Mahomes, but he is a flat out menace to behold walking into your stadium.
Chiefs just have a better team including coaching. Josh always been better
Tell That to the Rams. He walked all over the rams d and took the game to end and still only got an L.
@@bighuncho5210bills roster is definitely better this year and arguably last as well
@@ben98_669 how is it better? They lost their top 2 WRs in the offseason and have the same starting RB as last season.
@@michaelcoletta4547 what have the chiefs got washed kelce, d hop on a snap count, juju (who’s been hurt) and a rookie? Had Kareem hunt off the street, the worst LT in the league and a bottom 10 RT
Travis Playing 4 quarters of football at the same time 4 rounds in the evening with Taylor. Not enough energy for football and Taye. Those knees will start to shake dog. Thats affecting him big time
So let me get this right Lamar beats Burrow and Allen but loses to Mahomes and Allen loses to Lamar buut beats Mahomes so Allen leaps them both ....I need help on this one 🎯
Josh Beating Mahomes means more cause Mahomes is the top dog. Josh losing to Lamar isn't seem as nothing cause Lamar can't Beat Mahomes.
@@tom97009 But neither QB has beaten Mahomes in the playoffs
@ true. The issue is when Lamar lost to Mahomes it was embarrassing. When Josh lost to Mahomes it was one of the greatest matches we’ve seen. It also doesn’t help Lamar that in the regular season he’s 1-5 vs Mahomes and Josh is 4-1. Patrick is the Gold Standard. Noticed how Lamar has a winning record Vs Josh and Joe. But Joe beat Mahomes in the AFC championship and Josh had an all out battle and 4-1 vs Mahomes in the regular season. That’s why they look Pass Lamar.
@@tom97009lamar outplayed mahomes the last two matchups not sure how that’s embarrassing when your rookie wr fumbles the ball into the end zone
QUARTERBACKS DON'T LINE UP AGAINST EACH OTHER!!!!!!!!!!
Bills fans have the best team until it comes to winning the Super Bowl and then they don’t want the crown they want to be the underdogs?
Not we talking about hill being gone 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂😂
Patrick needs operate in the shot gun ... screens ... and sweeps the run away from the left side.
Mahomes is the best in the league by a mile
Based on what? (No past seasons allowed in answer)
@@krw73Dumb not to bring up the past. One could easily say Tom wasn’t that great if you throw all his past accomplishments out the window.
@@TheGIJoe69 no. There’s a difference between wasn’t and is. You’re right that when talking about past seasons, you can say that the person WAS the best. But you can’t say that past seasons means that he IS the best right now. That’s my point. Not one person can make a legitimate case that he is currently the best QB in the league if they’re not allowed to mention his past seasons because his performance this season is above average at best..
10th best QB in the NFL
Mahomes could come out in crutches and I'd still take him over Allen and Lamar in the postseason.
I’ll take the guy who can win Superbowls
KC still has 0 legit SB wins without refs giving them. Mahomes is all refs nothing else
@ bahahaha you moron. You sound like a whiny little cry baby. Your pathetic, you couldn’t sound more unintelligent
@@tynao2029good thing it doesn’t matter what’s legit to you 😂
“Well I guess god was watching another game” 😂😂
I don't understand how they can compare Allen who has 10 seconds in the pocket and Mahomes has 0.1 seconds. The media has been trying to say Josh Allen is the best QB for 5 years. The guy hasn't won anything yet.
Your dumb on purpose, Allen is better deal with it
@@brianhenry7983no proof
@@brianhenry7983better with nonthing to show for it remember he’s playing catch-up rn
Stephen A talking about Tyreek Hill 😂. Receivers are not the problem it’s the tackles
LAMAR DESTROYED JOSH ALLEN EARLIER THIS SEASON!!!
why does no one bring this up?
Because it was week 4 and Derrick Henry destroyed the Bills
Because the Bills have beat both conferences Number 1 seeds since then.
It's early, the ravens also lost to the raiders in week two
@@danielventura8118and Allen was benched vs the worst defense in the league stop it
Quarterbacks don't line up against each other nor do they play defense! And "earlier this season" is the key statement! The Bills as a team took a while to gel.
Mahomes is three levels above Allen.
Man they gon suck up Mahomes til the day he dies
Thats how winners get treated. To the winner go the spoils.
True and they’ve earned that fair enough. But you can’t tell me he’s better right now than Allen.
@kalanbell1057 Lamar jackson better than both mahomes and Allen 💯💯
@@markbay9275 Mahomes never wins only his refs do
@@JuwanDunbar-b6u Lamar not it nowadays just look at the game vs Eagles
I still remember the last time the Bills won in KC in the regular season but once both of them met in the playoffs the regular season game in KC didn't matter because the Chiefs still won in the playoffs.
Mahomes hasn't been good in 3 of the last 4 yrs. He isn't accurate throwing deep and he can't process post snap. Just looks for Kelce. Allen is better. Mahomes just has a way better coaching staff. Those who understand gootball - know what I am talking about.
Jealousy makes fans of loser teams have delusional takes.
@@MWiggins-m2g nah man
Dude been 2016 Joe Flacco in 3 of the past 4 years. Its time ti have a convo
So 2022 MVP 43 TDs and 5400 yards.
@scruffd0g193 I said 3 of the last 4
He was great in 2022
The only stat as of this moment that Josh Allen is dominating against Mahomes is interceptions.
Also 2019 is worse than this season. Are we really going to say Mahomes is horrible because he is putting up average numbers? We have gotten so accustomed to watching Mahomes be “amazing” that we forget that he is still a normal quarterback. He does not have to shine every game.
A 200 yard 0:0 td int statline in a 9-0 win is fine with me.
If Mahomes puts up 350 yards and 3 tds and 2 ints in a 28-42 loss, why did you put so much effort in a game that would already have been lost?
The chiefs are the most disrespected dynasty and mahomes is the most disrespected qb in nfl history. The patriots were never picked against, Brady was never the nest qb but never critiques at all....yet you do this to a kc team that just won by 14....
The only thing Patrick Mahomes has over Josh Allen are the titles. There’s no argument based on this season alone that you could make that Patrick Mahomes is playing better QB than Josh Allen.
He has more than just titles. Look at his post season stats. He is one of the best ever in the playoffs. 15-3 post season record. Many of those game down by 10.
@@TheGIJoe693 of the past 4 seasons Mahomes has been worse than Bengals Andy Dalton. He isn't good anymore. Just got arguably the best coacgung staff ever.
@@erikpuka2627he had over 400 yards and 2tds in the SB against San Fran how isn’t he good anymore ?
@@erikpuka2627 he won MVP in 2022...
@@erikpuka2627You’re crazy dawg. He’s still absolutely elite, and in the postseason he’s the one I’d take every time. Josh Allen is really good, but Mahomes’ resume speaks for itself. Yeah Andy Reid is a HUGE reason for Mahomes’ success, but to say Mahomes is bad is RIDICULOUS. Have you seen his o-line? See that they’re 13-1? 15-3 in the playoffs? Andy deserves credit but don’t act like Mahomes isn’t an absolute dawg and the most clutch QB in the NFL
The last couple of years, Lamar and the ravens had tons af injuries, but you guys never talk about that, just that he wets the bed. You guys move the goal post for different guys. You don't judge everyone from the same scale.
It's sickening. But you know why 😏
Josh Allen is clearly the MVP but I bet he would trade the MVP for a trip to the SB
Or better yet, a Super Bowl MVP
Lmfao clearly is laughable
2nd string QB for Buffalo thinking he's never getting off that bench lmfao
Mahomes has shown to be better at every turn on the biggest stage to Allen. The AFC Divisional was the only time they were equals in a meaningful game.
That's exactly right. It was the mirror image of the game that Mahomes and Brady had in the divisional playoffs in the 18 season. Got decided on a coin toss and whoever had the ball first in the OT won. Only difference is that after it happened with Allen, the NFL changed the rules around due to the "injustice."
The one that actually wins playoff games and superbowls
Lamar jackson throw better an run better than Josh Allen 😂😂😂😂😂😂Lamar best player in Nfl not even debate
😂😂😂😂😂 you drunk
@@krw7335-10
You win the award for the dumbest comment of the day!
Louis is phenomenal 🫡
9:51, One of those people Molly is talking about is the great Stephen A. Smith, the 100-MILLION-dollar man himself. 💰💸He deserves it too. But Stephen A. right before the season started said the Bills would miss the playoffs. In fact, he said we would battle for LAST in the AFC East. Well...that was wrong🎤💯However, TOTAL respect for Patrick Mahomes, he's STILL the top QB in the NFL until he's beat by someone. Josh is my QB, he is the MVP, be even he knows we have to keep rolling. We have tough games and teams ahead, we have to keep playing, keep rolling, keep WINNING!💯
Great segment would like to see Dominique Foxworth with the bruthas make it a Fantastic Four
*felonious four
Shannon said “precursor”🤣🤣
That word is usually used when taking pre workout supplements lol
No it's not
9:51, 10:29, Great takes by Louis Riddick and Shannon💯
Louis riddick was excellent here
until josh gets it done in the post season he will never be
It's a team sport and Allen has played well in the post season.
@@peterjohnson1734 Josh Allen: 5-5 postseason. Mahomes: 15-3 postseason.
@@peterjohnson1734yall love saying team sport when yall wanna justify josh Allen losing every year in the playoffs 😂😂
@@williedaviskcmo Who's "yall"? It's all about being a team sport from the head coach on down, but simpletons equate team wins to one position, they think it's QB 1 vs QB 2 even though they don't line up against each other. There have been average quarterbacks whose team won Super Bowls and great quarterbacks who have never experienced a Super Bowl win because it's a team sport. Put Josh Allen on Andy Reid's Chiefs or Mahomes on McDermott's Bills and the records would be completely different. When Allen throws a touchdown and goes ahead with 13 seconds left, never touches the ball again and his team loses, that's not a quarterback problem
It’s a new best qb every week espn switch up so much it’s ridiculous right now mahomes is the best until he gets knocked off 2 rings and the number 1 record in the league currently regardless of how y’all wanna slice it KS and Mahomes are on top until they get beat Josh and Lamar haven’t proved they can win when it matters
They tired they wanna crown someone new
Louis Riddick is a great mix with these guys.
This was great coverage. I agree with Riddick on all of it.
?? Kelce was incredible in the playoffs last year. Also the beautiful thing about Kelce is he gets open when Pat is scrambling. Pat doesn't have the same amount of time to get Kelce the ball.
The media tries to put josh allen on a pedestal every year during the regular season and dismiss Lamar Jackson purposely.
You ain't lyin. It's absurd
@ what makes it more blatant is that the ravens beat down bills and lamar outperformed Allen in that game. As well as almost every passing stat in favor of Lamar this year.
They both are nonthin til they actually beat the top dawg in the playoffs
Football is awesome. No one talks about baseball like this!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was such a good panel and segment.
Well guys, this was good and fair commentary---no hollering, no flashy garbage, legit insightful commentary. My opinion.
It's simple, josh is playing better than mahomes right now, and may even be a better QB, but better teams win, not just the better of the 2 players, and right now chiefs still are a better team, I'm talking from coaching to the players
@QYgod I certainly think the defense for the Chiefs is better than the Bills. But the offense...needs to come together, like last year, for instance. What some may forget, the Bills only barely beat the Chiefs, only the Allen heroics at the end made the difference. They're the nemesis. The Bills might get the Chiefs this year...might. 😁
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL SHANNON SHARP JOSH IS THE BEST REDZONE QB IN HISTORY AND HAS NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH TURNOVERS IN THE ENDZONE! Dude has been saying all year how he turns it over in the end zone and takes points off the board. He literally couldn’t be more wrong.
Josh has had a history of throwing pics!
It's weird non of these experts can't pinpoint the glaring issue of the Chiefs offense being Matt Nagy. They bring up Hill but Mahomes had 5200 yards and 41 touchdowns without Hill and won the MVP in 2022 under a different offensive coordinator. I think it's very clear.
This is what happens when u have one of if not the cheapest owner in the league ur gonna have problems
Mahomes clicks only when chiefs in trouble ! He takes it easy otherwise
To the Lamar Jackson point I definitely think he gets in his own head or just following the playbook and not using his legs to create a spectacular play or score. All the scrutiny he’s faced, “he should be a runner” “play WR” “play TE or DB” no bro listen to your heart and do what you do best.
Honestly, a Buffalo Philly SB isnt as big as a Buffalo Chiefs AFC championship. Because that is basically the SB. Its literally the best rivalry in the nfl.
Travis Kelcy was a physical freak his first 5 seasons. I’m a giants fan and I watched that dude catch a ten yard pass and take it to the crib at TE. Screens plays I’m out.
Mahomes d-ride is insane
He is playing average at best
Remember when he went out and Chad fkin Henne marched down the field and scored td TWICE
Same is gonna be with Wenz
They are stacked on defense and Reid is a savant