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Wow Maks did really well jumping with dance blades. You can see how fast he can rotate. Just imagine what he could have done on FS boots and blades. Seriously impressed. Glad you decided against racking up an injury for a video Lloyd. Thanks for sharing this enjoyable video. Would love to see how one could work up to doing 3 turns at speed. I can do them in waltz 8 but trying them flying down the ice terrifies me.😫
Practice! If you’re comfortable going fast down the ice it makes it much easier, especially if you can go quick down the ice and not be fazed at all by your speed and not having to worry about it. For the 3-turn focusing on bending your knees at the right times, having the rise in the middle, and turning at the right time (half way through the 3 turn; if you start looking at one side at the board, when your on your edge and your body is completely facing the opposite board you turn). With practise you won’t end up having to think about these things as it becomes muscle memory, but you can do it! I would start by individually practicing stroking quickly around the ice and separately practicing your 3-turns and increasing the speed of them over time as you get more comfortable with going faster. :)
And definitely use your arms and shoulders to block during the turn! If you can block it will make it easier when going faster, but try to stay calm and breather so your shoulders don’t rise too much as that will make it harder to do the turn
I’m really impressed. I tried doing a toe loop with a pure dance blade and because of the much smaller toe pick fell straight down. Went back to a hybrid dance blade immediately after. His 2A was really beautiful
I've always wanted to learn figure skating but was never sure if I wanted to do jumps, I didn't even know ice dancing was a thing, it sounds pretty fun. Sounds like something I'd wanna learn
Thank you so much! I love this video. I was wondering the differences between figure skating blades and ice dancing blades for a while. And I didn’t find a satisfied answer when I googled. When you showed us the linear holes on the ice, I feel like... Wow! I see the differences between how different blades work now.
I was asking myself sometimes if the ice dancers miss some of the more acrobatic moves that they can't involve in their routines? Or they would rather miss more freedom from the frames to create even more artistic programs?
Love your videos - they have a perfect balance between being both educational and entertaining! And yes guys, you both did great job with jumps (Maxim turned out to be a great surprise!) 👏
You know what, that's really reassuring! To think you're this good at skating and get this nervous about jumps! I can gladly relax about sticking to my wobbly singles forever and enjoy putting work into steps. If..... I see ice again someday. Otherwise in spring on rolls 😂
i stopped skating about two years ago (i was an ice dancer who did single skating for a bit so jumps make me nervous too) and just recently got back on the ice and the first time i did, i was like a beginner again. it felt like i should’ve been in rentals. honestly: even if it’s steps, if it IS jumps (singles or higher if you get there-it’s not as hard as it looks, it just takes time), working on ANYTHING will progress your skills and make you a better skater. working off ice can help too!! 3-turns aren’t too hard to practice off ice, balancing on different sides of your feet to imitate edges, off ice jumps, etc. keep working at it!!!
@@lukaspatel i stopped skating because i started losing interest and the only thing that kept me going was synchro. i really don't like jumps and spins because i'm a bit of a scaredy cat and also, i don't really care about it. it's cool to show off sometimes but i much prefer twizzles and synchro, as well as like spreads and stuff.
Most ice dancers probably started out doing singles skating. Back in the late 1970s/early 1980s when I used to skate at the old Altrincham Ice Rink (closed in 2002) I remember watching Nicky Slater doing double jumps and this was about 5 years after he had been a top ice dancer.
Oh you are in my home country Lloyd! How nice to see especially since I couldn’t get there for Christmas this year! I hope you had a good time there and well done to you and Maks, very brave :D
I just transitioned from freeskate to ice dance and I have the same boot and blade he has. I have no idea how in the world he was able to pick in for a toe jump. I tried once and about died 😂.
There are definitely a number of Dancers who were also proficient in singles. It just isn't a required skill for that discipline so YMMV, but lots of amazing dancers who excel in other areas of the sport.
Hahaha! I learned from a coach that an ice dancer will make all others look like swamp skaters! Their edges, foot work and upper body is so perfected that jumps are really an add on for them, (providing you have the correct equipment😅)
What do you think about health & permanent jumping? Example: Alexandra Trusova. She does 4x ...very extreme ... , When will her hips get damaged...? It worries me if landing always on the same foot/leg/hip. The pro skater Alexei Yagudin had a hip surgery (I think a new hip?) as much as I know, but still he jumps ? What's your opinions ?
It reassures me to see that you're both nervous about doing jumps 🙈 even people as good as you are find them scary to try, so my own fear IS normal after all 😮
Well, what can I say they still give skaters great basic technique in the Ukraine as long as Maksim still remembers all entries to the jumps and even landed nice double axel! After 16 years in ice dancing and on the blades which aren't suitable for jumping at all. Cheers from Russia and thanks for mentioning Eteri Tutberidze's group. Yep she switched single skating to ice dancing, but became single skating coach, and actually many former ice dancers did the same, because they know basic techniques and it helps.
I feel like the more accurate title would be: Can you jump in ice dancing skates? Because these two clearly learned their jumps and had the technique drilled into them
i used to skate competitively when I was a teenager 30 years ago, and Im going back as an adult skater. I want to do jumps again, what would be the easiest to start with again. Im hoping to get a coach as well... I think I can jump at 49 years old
Witam Maks & Lloyd I am a German father (in Germany ) and have a 7 year old daughter . She is Polish and lives in Poland, actually living currently in Moscow . She skates since she is 4 and wants to Ice dance instead single . What can you recommend for children depending the perfect club, training, safety, the right shoes & blades, finding the best possible partner to dance with for long term (guess that's a matter of being lucky?) ? She sleeps with her skates in bed and is crazy to learn it. But I do not want any pressure. It should be fun mainly and if she likes to compete for more someday , ok.... Generally she is shy (depending cameras around her). So what is your experiences , tips etc ? Thanks a lot Marky
Those comments at the end about Tutberidze didn't age well, did they. She produces "great" skaters by giving them medication to delay puberty and breaking their bodies as children so their careers are over by the time they reach 17.
I'm an ice dancer and can jump axel. My frend ice dancer can probably do 3S, becouse he was for 4 years a sinior in men skating. For one year was he top 10 by national championship in ice dance.
Definitely! It's a lot of fun and you might find you really enjoy footwork more than freestyle elements and go for solo ice dancing or even join an Adult Synchro team 😊 I was worried I'd be the only adult in a group of 5 year olds but there are Adult only lessons in pretty much every country that has ice rinks. If you type in 'National Ice Skating Association Adult' (include your country in the search), you can find more information, also search for Adult lessons on your local rinks' website 🙂
Yes. I started at 20 and within a year im doing 4 singles (no lutz or axel yet) and i can spin on one leg. I have many grown ups in my adult class 30+ who can do the same things as i do! Just go for it
To be fair, Sergei Dudakov is the main technician in Eteri's camp as far as the jumps are concerned at least. This is not to take from Eteri of course, she is a good coach with a strong team behind her, just a shout out to Dudakov. PS I think you both did pretty great for ice dancers. It was a fun video to watch.
@@selina6377 Well it's all about perspectives, her methods do bring her a lot of medals, and her skaters do win and many would say that that would make her a good coach.
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“I havent jumped in a while, let’s start off with some axels” 😂....
7:47 - he is joking, isn't he? 😂 It was a very good jump
I was thinking, “That’s the hardest jump in figure skating.” LOL 😂
Went straight for the big guns
I haven't done an axel for so long I'm pretty sure that it's my rear end I'll be landing on when I start doing them again. 🤣
🤣😂🤣
Maks: I am a little bit nervous (to jump) because of the toe picks and smaller dance blades.
Also Maks: *jumps as though he does them every day* 👏
ice dancers have strong edges which is the reason he is landing them
Wow Maks did really well jumping with dance blades. You can see how fast he can rotate. Just imagine what he could have done on FS boots and blades. Seriously impressed. Glad you decided against racking up an injury for a video Lloyd. Thanks for sharing this enjoyable video. Would love to see how one could work up to doing 3 turns at speed. I can do them in waltz 8 but trying them flying down the ice terrifies me.😫
What is it about 3 turns? So many of us have problems. Thank you for your honesty.
Practice! If you’re comfortable going fast down the ice it makes it much easier, especially if you can go quick down the ice and not be fazed at all by your speed and not having to worry about it. For the 3-turn focusing on bending your knees at the right times, having the rise in the middle, and turning at the right time (half way through the 3 turn; if you start looking at one side at the board, when your on your edge and your body is completely facing the opposite board you turn). With practise you won’t end up having to think about these things as it becomes muscle memory, but you can do it! I would start by individually practicing stroking quickly around the ice and separately practicing your 3-turns and increasing the speed of them over time as you get more comfortable with going faster. :)
And definitely use your arms and shoulders to block during the turn! If you can block it will make it easier when going faster, but try to stay calm and breather so your shoulders don’t rise too much as that will make it harder to do the turn
I’m really impressed. I tried doing a toe loop with a pure dance blade and because of the much smaller toe pick fell straight down. Went back to a hybrid dance blade immediately after. His 2A was really beautiful
How come he can do an Axel "out of nowhere"? 😂That was excellent! Congrats!
Ikr!
I've always wanted to learn figure skating but was never sure if I wanted to do jumps, I didn't even know ice dancing was a thing, it sounds pretty fun. Sounds like something I'd wanna learn
Go for it!!!! Figure skating is so much fun and such an adventure
@@24hoursofawesomeness23 i wish I could, but I work too much. I barely have any freetime to myself
Maks is such a nice guy, always smiling. And he is very brave, too. Loved this video!
Thank you so much! I love this video. I was wondering the differences between figure skating blades and ice dancing blades for a while. And I didn’t find a satisfied answer when I googled. When you showed us the linear holes on the ice, I feel like... Wow! I see the differences between how different blades work now.
You did great Maks ! 🤯 And Lloyd too ! After 16 years i wouldnt be that brave!
Maks has some amazing technique!! So difficult to jump in dance blades, this was a cool video.
Omg is he from Poland?! Bruh ❤️🇵🇱 i'm proud
Tak, Maksym i Natalia są definitywnie naszą chlubą narodową, polecam obejrzeć ich przejazdy!
Actually he is from Ukraine, but he represents Poland since 2014
@@yukipo1620 that's why his surname sounds not like from Poland. Thnx for info ;)
loving the oikawa pfp
@@sophiajoson3308 💞💖💜
I was asking myself sometimes if the ice dancers miss some of the more acrobatic moves that they can't involve in their routines? Or they would rather miss more freedom from the frames to create even more artistic programs?
Lloyd, congrats, your series "Can X do Y" went pretty viral on RUclips.
Always so impressed with you guys!!! Wow, I've never seen anyone fall so gracefully as Maks. Very brave indeed. Wow, that damage to the ice!
Even Maks falls were graceful 😂
It's crazy how much Maks can do after 16 years!
Love your videos - they have a perfect balance between being both educational and entertaining! And yes guys, you both did great job with jumps (Maxim turned out to be a great surprise!) 👏
You know what, that's really reassuring! To think you're this good at skating and get this nervous about jumps! I can gladly relax about sticking to my wobbly singles forever and enjoy putting work into steps. If..... I see ice again someday. Otherwise in spring on rolls 😂
i stopped skating about two years ago (i was an ice dancer who did single skating for a bit so jumps make me nervous too) and just recently got back on the ice and the first time i did, i was like a beginner again. it felt like i should’ve been in rentals. honestly: even if it’s steps, if it IS jumps (singles or higher if you get there-it’s not as hard as it looks, it just takes time), working on ANYTHING will progress your skills and make you a better skater. working off ice can help too!! 3-turns aren’t too hard to practice off ice, balancing on different sides of your feet to imitate edges, off ice jumps, etc. keep working at it!!!
@@lukaspatel i stopped skating because i started losing interest and the only thing that kept me going was synchro. i really don't like jumps and spins because i'm a bit of a scaredy cat and also, i don't really care about it. it's cool to show off sometimes but i much prefer twizzles and synchro, as well as like spreads and stuff.
Most ice dancers probably started out doing singles skating. Back in the late 1970s/early 1980s when I used to skate at the old Altrincham Ice Rink (closed in 2002) I remember watching Nicky Slater doing double jumps and this was about 5 years after he had been a top ice dancer.
A couple of wild and crazy guys! My motto is "Live to skate another day".
Love this! My ice dance partner and I do lower level (single jumps) pairs skating in our dance boots and Mk dance blades too :)
And I definitely have to tell myself to “flex my foot” when picking for the toe jumps or else I will slide across the ice just like max!
Oh you are in my home country Lloyd! How nice to see especially since I couldn’t get there for Christmas this year! I hope you had a good time there and well done to you and Maks, very brave :D
Maks has a beautiful, powerful physique. I need to see if there's content of his performances on YT. You are both impressive athletes!
The entries are fantastic! And the first triple salchow was just a little bit underrotated! Just goes to show how amazing ice dancers are.
Dance blades are very similar to the old figure blades, actually! The toepick and shorter heel look very alike.
Have you seen Mark Hanretty's 2A?! ⛸👏🏻
The Eteri plug!!!!!😂😂😂😂 Im speechless
I just transitioned from freeskate to ice dance and I have the same boot and blade he has. I have no idea how in the world he was able to pick in for a toe jump. I tried once and about died 😂.
Congrats Maxim!
I’m an intermediate ice dancer and my partner does freeskate as well and hopes to make the Olympics in both dance and freeskate
Lloyd and Maks, both of you are fearless and so brave! Thank you for sharing your fabulous video! :-)
There are definitely a number of Dancers who were also proficient in singles. It just isn't a required skill for that discipline so YMMV, but lots of amazing dancers who excel in other areas of the sport.
This is so interesting. Thanks for sharing, guys!
Hahaha! I learned from a coach that an ice dancer will make all others look like swamp skaters! Their edges, foot work and upper body is so perfected that jumps are really an add on for them, (providing you have the correct equipment😅)
You both guys did great! So brave! 💙⛸
I think I have seen Yuzu doing side by side triple loop with Virtue and Moir in an ice show at Japan.
They did single axels without any preparation! Pretty amazing
I'm glad that you have visited torun
This guy’s humor is amazing 😂!!
Thank you for this great video!!! It was so interesting!!
Scott Moir did an axel on hockey skates. I'm pretty certain ice dancers can jump if they have the skill.
This was super interesting!! Maks did such a great job
What do you think about health & permanent jumping? Example: Alexandra Trusova. She does 4x ...very extreme ... , When will her hips get damaged...? It worries me if landing always on the same foot/leg/hip. The pro skater Alexei Yagudin had a hip surgery (I think a new hip?) as much as I know, but still he jumps ? What's your opinions ?
The fact that Maks is Polish is amazing
he is russian or ukrainian or belarusian not polish
It reassures me to see that you're both nervous about doing jumps 🙈 even people as good as you are find them scary to try, so my own fear IS normal after all 😮
"Ну давай triple!"
"davai!"
Video title: can ice dancers jump?
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Maks falls so gracefully
I just love the accents… and they’re both adorable!
Well, what can I say they still give skaters great basic technique in the Ukraine as long as Maksim still remembers all entries to the jumps and even landed nice double axel! After 16 years in ice dancing and on the blades which aren't suitable for jumping at all. Cheers from Russia and thanks for mentioning Eteri Tutberidze's group. Yep she switched single skating to ice dancing, but became single skating coach, and actually many former ice dancers did the same, because they know basic techniques and it helps.
Dude if my jumps looked like that I would be so happy...
You clearly know your jumps…at least my impression! You are both great athletes!
I feel like the more accurate title would be: Can you jump in ice dancing skates? Because these two clearly learned their jumps and had the technique drilled into them
Maks improved fast!
i used to skate competitively when I was a teenager 30 years ago, and Im going back as an adult skater. I want to do jumps again, what would be the easiest to start with again. Im hoping to get a coach as well... I think I can jump at 49 years old
Double axel was great
Witam Maks & Lloyd
I am a German father (in Germany ) and have a 7 year old daughter . She is Polish and lives in Poland, actually living currently in Moscow . She skates since she is 4 and wants to Ice dance instead single .
What can you recommend for children depending the perfect club, training, safety, the right shoes & blades, finding the best possible partner to dance with for long term (guess that's a matter of being lucky?) ? She sleeps with her skates in bed and is crazy to learn it. But I do not want any pressure. It should be fun mainly and if she likes to compete for more someday , ok.... Generally she is shy (depending cameras around her).
So what is your experiences , tips etc ?
Thanks a lot
Marky
I absolutely loved this video, Lloyd! A lot of positive vibes!!
I can’t wait to see you land a triple axel soon ;)
Polish skater is so cool! He is sooo good and so cute😍✨
its russian skater , i dunno why he has Polska labels
@@pitur5492 no, he isn't Maks is originally from UKRAINE (it's not Russia !), but he's been living in Poland since 2014.
super hard to do jumps in ice dancing blades nice job
Those comments at the end about Tutberidze didn't age well, did they. She produces "great" skaters by giving them medication to delay puberty and breaking their bodies as children so their careers are over by the time they reach 17.
amazing!!!!!!great work
It is so hard to see someone jump with a broken boot
He representing poland!!!
Ice coach online is so handsome! 😭
Im proud of this Man because he’s from Poland and thats my country !
От жиж Макс! Нема, щоб по-люськи розповісти, чвірінькаєш по-ненашому!)))) Але пригаєш гарно!)))
This is amazing
This was something I have always wondered 👍🏻
I'm from Poland too
Wow, Maksym
Amazing!!
Bravo Maks
I can see he has a very hard Polish accent like my mother I find that very cool😅
Let's warm up some zingle...bells🎶 zingle bells🎶
LMAO 🤣🤣
polaand!
Cóż za wielkie pozytywne zaskoczenie, że za soczewką kamery spotykam Polaka.
Can you do figure skater vs ice dancer
Great video! I was hoping to see a few swizzles, though. I didn't know about the toe picks on ice dancing blades. I knew they were shorter.
It's the "Jinglle Bells" in this video.
This was fun!
He's so good
Good jobs! You do jumps better than me do on special blades ) "Davai tipple" - is Max russian? According to writing on jacket he s from Poland
Ukrainian
@@biari8599 гарний хлопчик
Сначала не присматривалась, решила, что он русский, а после его фразы поняла, что выговор украинский.
russian or somewhat near , not polish different english accent
Can you make a video explaining the differences between figure skating and ice dancing?
I didn't know there was a difference until this video
ice dancing is one of the four disciplines in competitive figure skating, and is the only discipline that does not involve jumping.
What is the difference between Ice Dancer and Skater?
The Russian guy is a ringer.😎😁
How did the Ice Dancers get the jumping?
Which rink is this one?
,, Dawaj triple”
I'm an ice dancer and can jump axel. My frend ice dancer can probably do 3S, becouse he was for 4 years a sinior in men skating.
For one year was he top 10 by national championship in ice dance.
Looks like Lloyd had to learn a little bit of Russian to better communicate with Maks. He knows at least one word (давай).
Тройной сальхов почти удался. )))
Is it worth even trying to learn figure skating at 26?
Definitely! It's a lot of fun and you might find you really enjoy footwork more than freestyle elements and go for solo ice dancing or even join an Adult Synchro team 😊 I was worried I'd be the only adult in a group of 5 year olds but there are Adult only lessons in pretty much every country that has ice rinks. If you type in 'National Ice Skating Association Adult' (include your country in the search), you can find more information, also search for Adult lessons on your local rinks' website 🙂
Yes. I started at 20 and within a year im doing 4 singles (no lutz or axel yet) and i can spin on one leg. I have many grown ups in my adult class 30+ who can do the same things as i do! Just go for it
Of course. I started at 40, still skating 15 years later. 26 is young!
Wait
OMG HE HAS THE WHITE EAGLE ON HIS SLEEVELESS
Edit: I am from Poland so
We can, but we hate it haha. so glad I retired from jumping.
А где Куракова?
You're so handsome Lloyd. =)
The ice dancers in my rink do better doubles than me
Most of the ice-dance skaters started as solists so yes they know the basis
To be fair, Sergei Dudakov is the main technician in Eteri's camp as far as the jumps are concerned at least. This is not to take from Eteri of course, she is a good coach with a strong team behind her, just a shout out to Dudakov. PS I think you both did pretty great for ice dancers. It was a fun video to watch.
Yea although I don’t agree with Eteri being a good coach
@@selina6377 Well it's all about perspectives, her methods do bring her a lot of medals, and her skaters do win and many would say that that would make her a good coach.
@@lenavinogradova950 treating her athletes as humans would be great though...
Skubany, dobry jest :D