Can Ice Dancers Do Jumps???
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In this video, we have a look at how good ice dancers are at jumping! Of course, this is just two examples of ice dancers!
@Maks_Spodyriev is an elite ranked ice dancer (5th in Europe and 11th in the world) and has not jumped since he was around 10 years old. As a child, he learned a base jumping technique and could do some double jumps. It has been roughly 16 years since he last tried some jumps. He was using 100% Ice Dance equipment that wasn't designed with jumps in mind at all.
I (Lloyd) also competed as an elite ranked ice dancer (7th in Europe and 12th in the World) and have not attempted a jump since I was about 14 years old. I used to jump until the age of 12, but tore my left knee and switched to Ice Dance. The last time I jumped I did manage a full set of doubles, but I was about 40kg lighter than I am now. After having a few operations, I didn't fancy picking up another injury for this RUclips video, but fortunately, Maks wasn't afraid 😁
One thing that is worth mentioning when we talk about ice dancers jumping is the way we train compared to singles skaters. Singles skaters train to be explosive and fast so that they can spring up high and get the rotations of their jumps done before they land. Ice dancers don't train explosive strength as much as they don't need to be able to jump and rotate triple and quad jumps. Ice dancers focus on strength, balance, and style.
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“I havent jumped in a while, let’s start off with some axels” 😂....
7:47 - he is joking, isn't he? 😂 It was a very good jump
I was thinking, “That’s the hardest jump in figure skating.” LOL 😂
Went straight for the big guns
I haven't done an axel for so long I'm pretty sure that it's my rear end I'll be landing on when I start doing them again. 🤣
🤣😂🤣
Maks: I am a little bit nervous (to jump) because of the toe picks and smaller dance blades.
Also Maks: *jumps as though he does them every day* 👏
ice dancers have strong edges which is the reason he is landing them
How come he can do an Axel "out of nowhere"? 😂That was excellent! Congrats!
Ikr!
Wow Maks did really well jumping with dance blades. You can see how fast he can rotate. Just imagine what he could have done on FS boots and blades. Seriously impressed. Glad you decided against racking up an injury for a video Lloyd. Thanks for sharing this enjoyable video. Would love to see how one could work up to doing 3 turns at speed. I can do them in waltz 8 but trying them flying down the ice terrifies me.😫
What is it about 3 turns? So many of us have problems. Thank you for your honesty.
Practice! If you’re comfortable going fast down the ice it makes it much easier, especially if you can go quick down the ice and not be fazed at all by your speed and not having to worry about it. For the 3-turn focusing on bending your knees at the right times, having the rise in the middle, and turning at the right time (half way through the 3 turn; if you start looking at one side at the board, when your on your edge and your body is completely facing the opposite board you turn). With practise you won’t end up having to think about these things as it becomes muscle memory, but you can do it! I would start by individually practicing stroking quickly around the ice and separately practicing your 3-turns and increasing the speed of them over time as you get more comfortable with going faster. :)
And definitely use your arms and shoulders to block during the turn! If you can block it will make it easier when going faster, but try to stay calm and breather so your shoulders don’t rise too much as that will make it harder to do the turn
I’m really impressed. I tried doing a toe loop with a pure dance blade and because of the much smaller toe pick fell straight down. Went back to a hybrid dance blade immediately after. His 2A was really beautiful
I've always wanted to learn figure skating but was never sure if I wanted to do jumps, I didn't even know ice dancing was a thing, it sounds pretty fun. Sounds like something I'd wanna learn
Go for it!!!! Figure skating is so much fun and such an adventure
@@24hoursofawesomeness23 i wish I could, but I work too much. I barely have any freetime to myself
You did great Maks ! 🤯 And Lloyd too ! After 16 years i wouldnt be that brave!
Omg is he from Poland?! Bruh ❤️🇵🇱 i'm proud
Tak, Maksym i Natalia są definitywnie naszą chlubą narodową, polecam obejrzeć ich przejazdy!
Actually he is from Ukraine, but he represents Poland since 2014
@@yukipo1620 that's why his surname sounds not like from Poland. Thnx for info ;)
loving the oikawa pfp
@@sophiajoson3308 💞💖💜
Thank you so much! I love this video. I was wondering the differences between figure skating blades and ice dancing blades for a while. And I didn’t find a satisfied answer when I googled. When you showed us the linear holes on the ice, I feel like... Wow! I see the differences between how different blades work now.
Maks has some amazing technique!! So difficult to jump in dance blades, this was a cool video.
Maks is such a nice guy, always smiling. And he is very brave, too. Loved this video!
Lloyd, congrats, your series "Can X do Y" went pretty viral on RUclips.
I was asking myself sometimes if the ice dancers miss some of the more acrobatic moves that they can't involve in their routines? Or they would rather miss more freedom from the frames to create even more artistic programs?
Even Maks falls were graceful 😂
Always so impressed with you guys!!! Wow, I've never seen anyone fall so gracefully as Maks. Very brave indeed. Wow, that damage to the ice!
It's crazy how much Maks can do after 16 years!
You know what, that's really reassuring! To think you're this good at skating and get this nervous about jumps! I can gladly relax about sticking to my wobbly singles forever and enjoy putting work into steps. If..... I see ice again someday. Otherwise in spring on rolls 😂
i stopped skating about two years ago (i was an ice dancer who did single skating for a bit so jumps make me nervous too) and just recently got back on the ice and the first time i did, i was like a beginner again. it felt like i should’ve been in rentals. honestly: even if it’s steps, if it IS jumps (singles or higher if you get there-it’s not as hard as it looks, it just takes time), working on ANYTHING will progress your skills and make you a better skater. working off ice can help too!! 3-turns aren’t too hard to practice off ice, balancing on different sides of your feet to imitate edges, off ice jumps, etc. keep working at it!!!
@@lukaspatel i stopped skating because i started losing interest and the only thing that kept me going was synchro. i really don't like jumps and spins because i'm a bit of a scaredy cat and also, i don't really care about it. it's cool to show off sometimes but i much prefer twizzles and synchro, as well as like spreads and stuff.
Most ice dancers probably started out doing singles skating. Back in the late 1970s/early 1980s when I used to skate at the old Altrincham Ice Rink (closed in 2002) I remember watching Nicky Slater doing double jumps and this was about 5 years after he had been a top ice dancer.
Love your videos - they have a perfect balance between being both educational and entertaining! And yes guys, you both did great job with jumps (Maxim turned out to be a great surprise!) 👏
A couple of wild and crazy guys! My motto is "Live to skate another day".
Hahaha! I learned from a coach that an ice dancer will make all others look like swamp skaters! Their edges, foot work and upper body is so perfected that jumps are really an add on for them, (providing you have the correct equipment😅)
Love this! My ice dance partner and I do lower level (single jumps) pairs skating in our dance boots and Mk dance blades too :)
And I definitely have to tell myself to “flex my foot” when picking for the toe jumps or else I will slide across the ice just like max!
Dance blades are very similar to the old figure blades, actually! The toepick and shorter heel look very alike.
Have you seen Mark Hanretty's 2A?! ⛸👏🏻
The Eteri plug!!!!!😂😂😂😂 Im speechless
There are definitely a number of Dancers who were also proficient in singles. It just isn't a required skill for that discipline so YMMV, but lots of amazing dancers who excel in other areas of the sport.
Those comments at the end about Tutberidze didn't age well, did they. She produces "great" skaters by giving them medication to delay puberty and breaking their bodies as children so their careers are over by the time they reach 17.
Oh you are in my home country Lloyd! How nice to see especially since I couldn’t get there for Christmas this year! I hope you had a good time there and well done to you and Maks, very brave :D
I just transitioned from freeskate to ice dance and I have the same boot and blade he has. I have no idea how in the world he was able to pick in for a toe jump. I tried once and about died 😂.
The entries are fantastic! And the first triple salchow was just a little bit underrotated! Just goes to show how amazing ice dancers are.
Lloyd and Maks, both of you are fearless and so brave! Thank you for sharing your fabulous video! :-)
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Well, what can I say they still give skaters great basic technique in the Ukraine as long as Maksim still remembers all entries to the jumps and even landed nice double axel! After 16 years in ice dancing and on the blades which aren't suitable for jumping at all. Cheers from Russia and thanks for mentioning Eteri Tutberidze's group. Yep she switched single skating to ice dancing, but became single skating coach, and actually many former ice dancers did the same, because they know basic techniques and it helps.
You both guys did great! So brave! 💙⛸
Maks has a beautiful, powerful physique. I need to see if there's content of his performances on YT. You are both impressive athletes!
This guy’s humor is amazing 😂!!
Congrats Maxim!
It reassures me to see that you're both nervous about doing jumps 🙈 even people as good as you are find them scary to try, so my own fear IS normal after all 😮
The fact that Maks is Polish is amazing
he is russian or ukrainian or belarusian not polish
This is so interesting. Thanks for sharing, guys!
I feel like the more accurate title would be: Can you jump in ice dancing skates? Because these two clearly learned their jumps and had the technique drilled into them
"Ну давай triple!"
"davai!"
I'm glad that you have visited torun
Maks falls so gracefully
What do you think about health & permanent jumping? Example: Alexandra Trusova. She does 4x ...very extreme ... , When will her hips get damaged...? It worries me if landing always on the same foot/leg/hip. The pro skater Alexei Yagudin had a hip surgery (I think a new hip?) as much as I know, but still he jumps ? What's your opinions ?
Thank you for this great video!!! It was so interesting!!
This was super interesting!! Maks did such a great job
You clearly know your jumps…at least my impression! You are both great athletes!
Can you make a video explaining the differences between figure skating and ice dancing?
To explain it briefly:
Ice dance is a type of figure skating, the same way singles, pairs, and synchro are. Ice dance started out as being ballroom dance on ice, but has since evolved so it's not ""just"" that.
The most notable difference between ice dance and other forms of skating is that ice dance does not involve traditional skating jumps, although it might involved skaters have both their feet off the ice as part of a step sequence (you can look up the finnstep for an example of this where the 'jumps' are easy to see).
Ice dance on the olympic/world championship level requires two skaters to be dancing together, though some countries also have national solo dance competitions.
Like pair skating an element in ice dance is lifts (one partner lifts the other), although in ice dance the point of support for the lifts are not allowed to be above the shoulder of the person doing the lifting.
Another signature element is the twizzle - they're sort of like a spin, but moving.
It focuses a lot more on artistry and edgework than the other types of skating.
@@Braxiatel_ thank you!
@@zottelhuehs6375 You're welcome ^^
Ice Dancing is Figure Skating.
@@JorgeGarcia-ji2bm n o
Scott Moir did an axel on hockey skates. I'm pretty certain ice dancers can jump if they have the skill.
I think I have seen Yuzu doing side by side triple loop with Virtue and Moir in an ice show at Japan.
They did single axels without any preparation! Pretty amazing
Dude if my jumps looked like that I would be so happy...
Im proud of this Man because he’s from Poland and thats my country !
I just love the accents… and they’re both adorable!
I absolutely loved this video, Lloyd! A lot of positive vibes!!
I can’t wait to see you land a triple axel soon ;)
Maks improved fast!
I’m an intermediate ice dancer and my partner does freeskate as well and hopes to make the Olympics in both dance and freeskate
super hard to do jumps in ice dancing blades nice job
Polish skater is so cool! He is sooo good and so cute😍✨
its russian skater , i dunno why he has Polska labels
@@pitur5492 no, he isn't Maks is originally from UKRAINE (it's not Russia !), but he's been living in Poland since 2014.
Double axel was great
amazing!!!!!!great work
Witam Maks & Lloyd
I am a German father (in Germany ) and have a 7 year old daughter . She is Polish and lives in Poland, actually living currently in Moscow . She skates since she is 4 and wants to Ice dance instead single .
What can you recommend for children depending the perfect club, training, safety, the right shoes & blades, finding the best possible partner to dance with for long term (guess that's a matter of being lucky?) ? She sleeps with her skates in bed and is crazy to learn it. But I do not want any pressure. It should be fun mainly and if she likes to compete for more someday , ok.... Generally she is shy (depending cameras around her).
So what is your experiences , tips etc ?
Thanks a lot
Marky
This was something I have always wondered 👍🏻
He representing poland!!!
Ice coach online is so handsome! 😭
Cóż za wielkie pozytywne zaskoczenie, że za soczewką kamery spotykam Polaka.
I'm from Poland too
This is amazing
It is so hard to see someone jump with a broken boot
От жиж Макс! Нема, щоб по-люськи розповісти, чвірінькаєш по-ненашому!)))) Але пригаєш гарно!)))
Let's warm up some zingle...bells🎶 zingle bells🎶
LMAO 🤣🤣
Great video! I was hoping to see a few swizzles, though. I didn't know about the toe picks on ice dancing blades. I knew they were shorter.
Bravo Maks
polaand!
I can see he has a very hard Polish accent like my mother I find that very cool😅
i used to skate competitively when I was a teenager 30 years ago, and Im going back as an adult skater. I want to do jumps again, what would be the easiest to start with again. Im hoping to get a coach as well... I think I can jump at 49 years old
Amazing!!
This was fun!
I'm an ice dancer and can jump axel. My frend ice dancer can probably do 3S, becouse he was for 4 years a sinior in men skating.
For one year was he top 10 by national championship in ice dance.
It's the "Jinglle Bells" in this video.
Wow, Maksym
The Russian guy is a ringer.😎😁
To be fair, Sergei Dudakov is the main technician in Eteri's camp as far as the jumps are concerned at least. This is not to take from Eteri of course, she is a good coach with a strong team behind her, just a shout out to Dudakov. PS I think you both did pretty great for ice dancers. It was a fun video to watch.
Yea although I don’t agree with Eteri being a good coach
@@selina6377 Well it's all about perspectives, her methods do bring her a lot of medals, and her skaters do win and many would say that that would make her a good coach.
@@lenavinogradova950 treating her athletes as humans would be great though...
He's so good
Good jobs! You do jumps better than me do on special blades ) "Davai tipple" - is Max russian? According to writing on jacket he s from Poland
Ukrainian
@@biari8599 гарний хлопчик
Сначала не присматривалась, решила, что он русский, а после его фразы поняла, что выговор украинский.
russian or somewhat near , not polish different english accent
Wait
OMG HE HAS THE WHITE EAGLE ON HIS SLEEVELESS
Edit: I am from Poland so
,, Dawaj triple”
Can you do figure skater vs ice dancer
Looks like Lloyd had to learn a little bit of Russian to better communicate with Maks. He knows at least one word (давай).
We can, but we hate it haha. so glad I retired from jumping.
Тройной сальхов почти удался. )))
What is the difference between Ice Dancer and Skater?
How did the Ice Dancers get the jumping?
Most of the ice-dance skaters started as solists so yes they know the basis
Skubany, dobry jest :D
You're so handsome Lloyd. =)
Which rink is this one?
Is it worth even trying to learn figure skating at 26?
Definitely! It's a lot of fun and you might find you really enjoy footwork more than freestyle elements and go for solo ice dancing or even join an Adult Synchro team 😊 I was worried I'd be the only adult in a group of 5 year olds but there are Adult only lessons in pretty much every country that has ice rinks. If you type in 'National Ice Skating Association Adult' (include your country in the search), you can find more information, also search for Adult lessons on your local rinks' website 🙂
Yes. I started at 20 and within a year im doing 4 singles (no lutz or axel yet) and i can spin on one leg. I have many grown ups in my adult class 30+ who can do the same things as i do! Just go for it
Of course. I started at 40, still skating 15 years later. 26 is young!
The ice dancers in my rink do better doubles than me
You had just a few of you on the ice and they needed to resurface? Why? You would barely make a dent