Konnyaku Treatment - Make Paper Stronger More Like Fabric!

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @swannwillow9476
    @swannwillow9476 8 месяцев назад +5

    Great tutorial! Thanks for showing us the traditional way of doing this. Very interesting even though I don't think I will try it just yet. I have too many irons in the fire as the moment. I will save this video and watch it again in 6 months. Have a great day 🌼🩵🌺

  • @parastoonasr6328
    @parastoonasr6328 7 месяцев назад +4

    Wonderful. Thank you. I so appreciate the tradition and techniques of Japanese paper making. ❤

  • @maramakesjournals2319
    @maramakesjournals2319 Год назад +7

    Thank you! Your video is EXACTLY what I was looking for.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +1

      So glad to hear it! We noticed that there aren't many authentic momigami making videos available.

    • @maramakesjournals2319
      @maramakesjournals2319 Год назад

      @@the_jpp 💜💜💜

  • @BlueZion9
    @BlueZion9 Год назад +9

    Excellent work and presentation.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +1

      Glad you liked it!

  • @deborahbeatty
    @deborahbeatty 2 месяца назад +2

    Is Konnyaku powder like sodium alginate? I can’t find Konnyaku locally, but have a ready supply of alginate since I use it as a thickener when dyeing fabric. Thanks. I had never heard of Konnyaku. This video was quite educational.

  • @donnadees1971
    @donnadees1971 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love the sound of the papers…

  • @bigriverbindery
    @bigriverbindery Год назад +7

    Great video. Thanks for explaining it so well.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful!😊

  • @mh8704
    @mh8704 4 месяца назад +7

    Hi! My mom is Japanese so I eat a lot of Japanese food. Konnyaku jelly is one of my favorites! Is this powdered form edible too? Sometimes I can’t get the edible jelly here so wondered if the powder would be a way to make it? Thanks for the video too! I’m learning paper sculpting techniques and this would be very useful to make paper clothes for the sculptures.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  3 месяца назад +2

      Hi, our powder is made from 100% konnyaku but is not a food grade. Please don't eat them. By the way, konnyaku jelly is our staff's favourite office snack (we buy from supermarkets).
      Konnyaku treatment also works great with paper molding and might be useful for your sculpture!

    • @carrma57
      @carrma57 3 месяца назад +1

      Konnyaku has been known to cause stomach problems. It is banned from being sold as a food in Australia. I was shopping in Daiso yesterday looking for konnyaku, but they don’t have it either. They did have konjac jelly there, and I believe it is the same, according to google. Hope this helps.

    • @Anna-uy9dm
      @Anna-uy9dm Месяц назад +1

      Made me thirsty for the konjaku jelly drink! Peach is my favorite!

  • @susannahyoung5859
    @susannahyoung5859 4 месяца назад +2

    I have devil’s tongue in my garden. Is there a way I could process it for the paste? I found this video very interesting and the methods clearly explained. I will look for other videos from you. Thank you

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  3 месяца назад +1

      Hi, I think you need to find a way to process the root of the devil's tongue into fine powder. That is not my area of expertise but you might find some useful images here: www.pref.kanagawa.jp/docs/cf7/cnt/f450009/p580997.html

    • @susannahyoung5859
      @susannahyoung5859 3 месяца назад

      @@the_jpp thank you. I really appreciate your reply and am going to experiment with the root

  • @rosehavenfarm2969
    @rosehavenfarm2969 4 месяца назад +5

    INteresting video.
    I followed your links to the products used.
    Goodness, there's a lot of gatekeeping on your site, even to find the resellers.
    Typically, links are provided under videos to increase sales, not to protect your gates.
    My suggestion to you is to at least make it easy to find resellers, without needing to go through PID data.

    • @MagpieOnTheMoon
      @MagpieOnTheMoon 4 месяца назад

      I had the same experience, but I emailed the company directly and inquired about resellers in the U.S. They responded by sending me a list of resellers and the resellers web sites. There were 4... one is going out of business, another didn't have washi online (or anything else I was looking for), and I haven't checked the other 2 yet. I ended up purchasing the konnyaku on Amazon... it's just the root powder, so food grade seemed like a fine substitute for the brand in the video.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  3 месяца назад

      We are sorry for your inconvenience. Because we are primarily a wholesaler, our online store is limited to resellers and manufacturers. Some resellers take special orders - you can order our products by letting them know the product name or SKU available on our website. Thank you 🙏
      USA
      Washi Arts: www.washiarts.com/
      Paper Creek Co.: papercreek.ca/
      CANADA
      Articulations Art Supply: www.articulations.ca/
      UK
      Shepherds London: store.bookbinding.co.uk/store/

  • @lesliejohnson6326
    @lesliejohnson6326 Год назад +6

    How does the konnyaku treatment affect using ink, paints, etcetera on the paper? Best to do that before the konnyaku, or can you do that afterwards too?

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +12

      Great question! You can apply colour both before and/or after treating the washi with Konnyaku. If you use paint or ink prior to using konnyaku, you want to be sure the the colour will not migrate when it gets wet. Because konnyaku works as a light sizing, you will find that the washi is less absorbent after treatment, and wet media will not be absorbed by the the paper as readily.

  • @carlosalbertoavendanorestr163
    @carlosalbertoavendanorestr163 Год назад +4

    @the_jpp Hello. I'm interested in using shirataki noodles as a substitute for konnyaku flour to create the fiber network in momigami. Could you share your thoughts on whether shirataki noodles could work well for this purpose, given your expertise in traditional momigami materials? Thank you.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +7

      Hi, shiraraki noodle is made from solidified konnyaku solution and it will not dissolve again. We think it can not be used as a substitute konnyaku powder.

  • @jen7662
    @jen7662 Месяц назад

    I’m working on a project where I want to use kohl paper and form it into a fountain pen shape. I want people to be able to write with it (once) and I’m wondering what treatment I could use to harden the kozo for people to handle? My initial thought was a paper Mâché treatment but I do want to paint the works too. Any thoughts you have would be great!

  • @mariadelvalleherrador9726
    @mariadelvalleherrador9726 3 месяца назад

    Se puede aplicar colores??? Antes o despues??? Gracias mil 🎉

  • @vantasiascauldron1861
    @vantasiascauldron1861 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you! I do enjoy this method.

  • @migdaliavoss4567
    @migdaliavoss4567 15 дней назад

    Could it be mix in blender?

  • @gillyb44
    @gillyb44 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for your video. I used tapioca starch and used it the same as konnyaku. But my fabric paper looks nice but tears easily. So Konnyaku would be better?

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  10 месяцев назад +7

      I’m not familiar with using tapioca starch, but I suspect that it's your paper that isn’t strong enough. This technique works best using papers that have a high kozo content (80% +). Kozo fibres are long and provide good wet strength when you are crumpling the damp sheets. Konnyaku adds some strength and abrasion resistance, but the stronger the paper you start with the stronger your results will be. - Sigrid

    • @sislertx
      @sislertx 3 месяца назад +1

      How do u tell what the kozo number is.

  • @leapNTP411
    @leapNTP411 5 месяцев назад +1

    could you use konnyaku on old newspaper to give it strength?? To date, I've been adding clear gesso - but maybe konnyaku would make it more fabric-like??

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  3 месяца назад

      Using konnyaku on old newspaper will give it some additional strength, but it is still newspaper - so it won’t be as strong as using a kozo paper. If you do try using konnyaku on newspaper, and you want to crumple it, we recommend that you crumple after it's dry. If you crumple newsprint while it's wet it might fall apart.

  • @loisseeley5039
    @loisseeley5039 Месяц назад

    I keep trying to find out how paper can be used as a fabric. How is the paper used as fabric? How can it bue used as clothing?

  • @3Artive
    @3Artive 7 месяцев назад +1

    Would it be possible to do the mixing in a personal blender if one’s hands/fingers aren’t quite up to the job of constantly mixing the solution in the beginning?

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  5 месяцев назад +2

      A blender might work, though I've not tried it. I imagine that you'd need to scrape the sides with a spatula pretty often -- the gelling granules like to stick to the sides of the mixing jar. Mixing in a tightly sealed mason-type jar and shaking it works quite well.

  • @studioplanetesilhouette
    @studioplanetesilhouette 6 месяцев назад +1

    Super tutorial ! Unfortunately I don't live in Canada anymore and am in France. So I had to order my Konjac powder from Amaz... Would of loved to participate in your workshops, and same thing : too far... Too bad it is not available as a Live workshop on Zoom or else... The one with the lovely minature clothes seems so awesome ! Just clicked on the Subscribe button ! Thanks for all the tips !

  • @bobbiwest6625
    @bobbiwest6625 Год назад +1

    Im look up the powder. Is it really konjac powder. I do have that powder in my pantry. Lol, great process, i love your papers. Take care,be safe.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +4

      Yes! Thank you

  • @dayaweerasena941
    @dayaweerasena941 Год назад +2

    thank you. Very important.

  • @DeerheartStudioArts
    @DeerheartStudioArts Год назад +1

    Would a small wisk stir it better than a spoon? Of course not used to actually whip.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +4

      A whisk would work to stir the konnyaku with, but I wouldn’t necessarily choose to use one. The konnyaku granules really stick to the stirring stick before they are fully dissolved, and need to be scraped off the stick periodically so that it doesn’t clump. A whisk would be hard to scrape off…

  • @nerfminet4704
    @nerfminet4704 2 месяца назад

    Can I use Tapioka starch instead?

  • @123uschie
    @123uschie 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you this answered some questions I had. I can’t wait to give it a try!

  • @KevanArt
    @KevanArt 6 месяцев назад

    I would like more information on the properties, qualities and performance of this product. Since it is a natural starch, is it hydrophilic? Will it be softened in humid environments? Will it be food for pests? You mentioned water resistance, curious.... So it cures and resists water? Does age or light break it down, or yellow it? Is the crinkling of it to add texture an aesthetic choice or does it have some purpose. Can it be left flat? Is this similar in affect to using a gel medium to coat paper? What would be the advantage or disadvantage? thanks so much! has my brain thinking of possibilities!

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  5 месяцев назад +2

      Hi Kevan, thank you for your questions: I'll try my best to answer them!
      Konnyaku-treated paper does resist water, but will eventually absorb it ...just much more slowly than if it were not treated. For this reason some artists, including me sometimes, use it as a sizing on paper, brushing the konnyaku on and letting the paper dry flat without crumpling. I've not used gel medium to coat paper, so I'm not sure if it would be similar. I imagine that gel medium might give the paper a plastic-feel, which konnyaku does not; konnyaku gives washi a kind of crisp feeling.
      The purpose for crumpling is to create a kind of elasticity...the crumpled paper can be stretched out in the same way that the pleats of an accordion can be stretched out. Crumple the paper if you want to use it for making practical items like pouches or for stitching or other 3-D applications. In Japan, momigami, strong kozo paper treated with konnyaku and crumpled, was made into durable clothing, called kamiko.
      I suppose that treated paper might be food for pests, but I haven't specifically heard of issues with this. I haven't seen issues with yellowing either, though light will break anything down with time so don't leave anything in direct sun for extended periods!
      Sigrid

  • @lauranagae6553
    @lauranagae6553 9 месяцев назад

    Olá, poderia substituir konhaku por kanten?

  • @sislertx
    @sislertx 3 месяца назад

    What can u say about the papers made with oils..seems to me it wouldnt add anything to the paper but oil.and would actually not allow the paper to last...but this is totally new to me..

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  3 месяца назад

      Oil was applied to paper in Japan to make it waterproof and flexible for making umbrellas. The paper was not expected to last forever but could be replaced when needed. We wouldn’t recommend using oil directly on paper for artwork, because you’re right, it wouldn’t last!

  • @bobbinsew
    @bobbinsew Год назад +1

    Why do you crumple the paper? Also can I use Mulberry paper in this process? I’ve loads in my stash, it would be good to use it this way!

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +5

      With crumpling, you can get an interesting texture and also the paper becomes more flexible. You can make it without crumpling too.
      We are not sure what types of mulberry paper you have, but it would work if the paper is strong enough when it's wet.
      The higher the kozo content, the stronger will be.

  • @rabbitgregory9289
    @rabbitgregory9289 8 месяцев назад

    If I want to use the momigami paper in a collage (instead of sewing it) will I have any problems getting the glue to hold? Does the konnyaku treatment hold up if the paper becomes wet again? Great lesson. Thanks.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  8 месяцев назад +1

      Glue will still hold momigami (konnyaku-treated paper) so you should have no problem using it in collage. The crumpling might flatten out a bit when the momigami is wet with adhesive and you press it down to make it stick. If there is a lot of konnyaku on the paper it might get a bit sticky if it gets wet. If you were to really soak the paper in water some of the konnyaku might rinse out, but this shouldn't be an issue in a collage if you are working over it with wet media.

  • @artyfartyannie
    @artyfartyannie Год назад +3

    Such a lovely clear tutorial, thank you very much :)

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +1

      Glad it was helpful! Thank you

  • @LittleWillie1000
    @LittleWillie1000 Год назад +1

    I have konjac root in my cupboard that I use in my smoothies to keep my appetite down. My question is can I use that?

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +2

      We haven't tried ourselves yet but it says if the root is dried well, you can make into powder. The powder should be very fine to be dissolved. Konnyaku smoothie sounds great though! 😋

  • @sheliaporter6795
    @sheliaporter6795 Год назад +1

    I love this idea. Definitely something I want to try doing. Thank you! ❤😊

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад

      It is really useful for many types of projects, even for paper sculpturing with molds. Let us know how did you like it! 😉

  • @lorenza6431
    @lorenza6431 Год назад +1

    Que otro nombre tiene el polvo ?
    Estoy en Colombia
    Gracias

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +1

      Hi, konnyaku is also known as konjaku, konnyaku potato, devil's tongue, or Amorphophallus konjac.

  • @yaelglickman5110
    @yaelglickman5110 4 месяца назад

    Great explanation, thank you :)

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  3 месяца назад +1

      You are welcome!

  • @nbenefiel
    @nbenefiel 8 месяцев назад

    The only Konnyaku I could find is in sheets. Can I use that? Where can you get the paper?

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  8 месяцев назад

      We're not familiar with konnyaku in sheets. Konnyaku that is solid (as in noodles and solid paste for stews) won't dissolve again and so can't be used for treating paper. If you email washi@japanesepaperplace.com with your location we can suggest resellers where you can get the paper, and konnykau powder too!

  • @jariseri5583
    @jariseri5583 9 месяцев назад

    Is there any different to use tapioca powder or rice flour?

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  8 месяцев назад

      We have heard of some people trying tapioca powder, but don't have any experience with it ourselves. Rice flour is used to make paste and is really too sticky to use like konnyaku -- you'll end up glueing your paper together.

  • @janhulse9518
    @janhulse9518 10 месяцев назад +1

    why are other videos saying oil and hand lotion? too confusing to try now.

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  10 месяцев назад +3

      We don't really know... someone came up with the idea and spread it on the internet. We realized it and wanted to present the authentic way for the best result with archival quality. Chemical substance in hand lotion or hair cream can cause stain or deterioration over the time.

    • @mysequineye8805
      @mysequineye8805 9 месяцев назад +1

      The oil and lotion use is not authentic momigami.

  • @donnadees1971
    @donnadees1971 11 месяцев назад +1

    But what do you make out of the paper?

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  11 месяцев назад +3

      Traditionally it is used for clothing, just like fabric. Some people combine it with leather as well. You can also make 3D objects using molds. It is quite versatile and the possibility is limitless!

  • @sislertx
    @sislertx 3 месяца назад

    So what happens when u use just regular starch?

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  3 месяца назад

      You can cook regular starch (corn, rice or wheat) to make adhesive (sticking paste), but it’s too sticky to use instead of konnyaku: the paper would stick itself together in the crumpling process. Also, sticking paste will rehydrate easily, becoming sticky again if it gets moistened. Regular starch mixed with water without cooking will just settle out.

  • @GenuineLhachwen
    @GenuineLhachwen 8 месяцев назад

    It looked more like a gel than a paste. I know, real subtle distinction 😆🤣

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  3 месяца назад +1

      That's actually true 😂

  • @sislertx
    @sislertx 7 месяцев назад

    Well..freezer paper and an iron works real well..no wrinkles..

  • @dawsie
    @dawsie Год назад +1

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    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  Год назад +3

      Thank you for your feedback! We have added active links to all of our products recommended on our video description. We truly appreciate your time and effort to write to us 🙏

  • @MercedesParker-b5v
    @MercedesParker-b5v 10 месяцев назад +3

    This is too complicated . One needs specialised paper,which is quite expensive. Shame... Also, the glue she is making can be obtained in a simple way. Good try,though

    • @the_jpp
      @the_jpp  10 месяцев назад +41

      There are many videos that show simplified methods with inexpensive materials. However we found that there was none showing the authentic way to achieve the best result with archival quality. That was the reason why we made this video.

    • @IronEarthDesigns
      @IronEarthDesigns 8 месяцев назад +15

      Whether something is too complicated depends on your intention with the material or the project. I'm not connected at all with this company, but I have a certain irritation with this attitude.
      Quality and skill takes time, commitment, and sometimes sacrifice. And you're not entitled to be taught (for free, no less!) the cheapest, quickest, and/or easiest way to do something.
      There is a difference between say, a hamburger and Kobe beef. You get to choose which to eat, but not to denigrate the Kobe sellers for not selling at a discount.
      A less expensive way to do this process is to make small or mini versions of a paper project. Also the idea of "penny-wise and pound foolish" is often true. One often has to replace the "cheap" item multiple times because it's broken, or faded, etc. You ultimately spend the same amount, or more than of buying the expensive item initially.
      Finally, your time is worth something too. What is the "cost" of spending hours on a project that will look shoddy in 6 months?

    • @heikesiegl2640
      @heikesiegl2640 7 месяцев назад +8

      It is called japanese paper place and not Junk Journal DIY
      Not interested in history and authentic ways people did things back then, well then just look up another video

    • @guizachristiane4824
      @guizachristiane4824 6 месяцев назад +1

      I do it with every paper, even napkin. So it must not be expensive....it depends on you.

    • @NpPGreenacres
      @NpPGreenacres 5 месяцев назад

      Good point. Can we make those expensive materials with substitutes that we don't hv to buy. I respect your view. I find other comments, like the Kobe beef, disrespectful and very snobby. Snobbiness and creativity are counterproductive. Not a good match! If starch is the key... let's get creative and expt how to do it in our environment, homes. Snobbiness boo! 🎉🎉🎉