Driving the Eaton Heavy Duty UltraShift Part 01
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2009
- Learn everything you need to know about how to drive an Eaton Heavy Duty Ultrashift. This video goes step-by-step to teach you everything that a driver should know. You'll be suprised on what you will learn by watching this video! Part 01 of 02.
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Got this transmission on my 2005 Volvo 780 with a 450 HP ISX. After 240,000 miles in two years i am proud to say it has exceeded my expectations by far. It pulls great and the Manual (Hold) mode helps a lot in steep grades to inhibit up-shifting. My only wish and maybe this has already happened would be a 13 speed plus UltraShift to up the MPG a little. Thanks.
Forever will always have a heart for manual gearboxes
We rented a Hino 268 straight truck with one of these. I hated it. Even though it was in Drive, and not Manual, half the time, it would NOT properly upshift, and I had to press the button to make it shift. Also, unlike most automatics, it would completely cut off the fuel between gear shifts, making it a royal pain to accelerate from a stop, or accelerate uphill. Also, when stopping for a stopsign or other short stop, it would take a long time to get back in gear and accelerate.
Ive driven trucks hauling dar more then Asphalt, Ive done Heavy Haul, Moved Refinerys and Crans, crossed every mountain range and desert, and the Automatic is the best choice, Its not Bravado or Ego its whats best for my pocketbook, todays automatics can be used manually, or hold or auto modes work the best, Better fuel mileage, less wear and tear, easier on the body....I can assure you Ive shifted more then my share and yours....but something new doesnt scare me...
yep same here 29 years
@mgichure It has happened. The 2012 Volvo 780's have a 10, 13, 15, and an 18 speed option. They really are amazing!
I ONLY use my clutch when I am @ a COMPLETE stop to select a gear to move forward. Ask ANY trucker who knows these techniques & I'll bet they will agree w/what I have just told you.
Yeah i also experienced problems in hill work, Another one that puzzled me is that it like to miss getting the gears it wants when the switch for the jakes where on so you had to switch off the jakes then manually go down then jake.
My company bought 7 brand new Concrete Mixer trucks with this transmission and we have had nothing but problems with every one. We have had the Roadranger techs ride with us and helped very little. For freight they may be alright but we do steep hills and tight turns constant backing up and for this application they are terrible.
RUclips The Mack mDRIVE automated manual transmission
I think MACK M-DRIVE is easier and has a better display screen on the instrument panel wich gives you a lot of data like how many gears you have for up-shift and down-shift if doing manually. Also has a feature to prevent tractor back-rolling when vehicle is stoped at a hill or grade
i dont know how it is in USA but we have in Gwermany also trucks for heavy haul with autogerbox and they get till 250 t.
In the state of Ohio, (and in the future other states), if you take the CDL test in an automatic, you'll be certified to drive an automatic truck ONLY...If you take the test in a manual shift truck, You'll be certified to drive EITHER truck....It's a different endorsement.
J S that's how it is here in Texas
It’s like that in Saskatchewan and I think every other province in Canada is like that too.
Do you recommend this kind of transmission on truck pulling a dump trailer (most cases 23 ton) running on construction areas
How I know my automatic cluoch should be replace
que bonita transmicion
back in the day people used to complain about autos in cars as well now you can't hardly find a manual gear box. semis are going the same route so get used to it they are the future............
I think a lot of it too is the whole hands-free distracted driving thing. Used to be able to talk on our mobile phones until texting became a thing and now, at least in Saskatchewan, even holding your phone while driving is a huge fine. In ten years, I bet nearly all new semis will be automatics.
I think those arrows are for PTO control
in Germany we drive trucks with autoshift and carry asphalt or other things.
I just had an ultra shift hit high reverse from 7th gear going down a hill and destroy the transmission. It's been nothing but problems... Hangs in gear, over revs when shifting, does lots of shock damage to the drive line. It's torn up more stuff than a rookie with an 18 speed
i can drive anything manual even 10 speed air shift however our company is buying automatic peterbuilts and im starting to have problems with my left knee im 57 so im gonna have to learn the ins and outs of this new fangled beast
I have knee problems with autos. None with manual.
in germany we drive nearly only trucks with autogearbox, at all hp till 750 hp at the volvofh 16.
Very glad I bought a Volvo I-Shift. I really hated the Eaton product.
Another rumor, the auto trans trucks do just as good hauling these loads and off road as any ....there is no requirement for SHIFTING, its just change that some guys cant take, but after driving a truck you dont have to shift thru Chicago or Atlanta and youll realize the value...
hi im planning to buy a volvo780 and cant decide what engine and transmission I want I was told by few other truckers to get ISX cummins and 13speed manual Eaton Fuller some says to get volvo engine with I shift tranny whats the cost of repairs between this 2 any suggestion help thanks
These transmissions have alot of problems with the X-Y shifters and are alot more complicated than a standard transmission due to all the extra sensors, wiring, and modules reading and relaying all the infromation taken from the sensors. Ultra Shift Transmissions also require a different type of clutch compared to the standards and autoshifts
That is the way it should be
is this a training video?
ive heard it takes longer to slow down and stop with these. is that true?
Rookie automatic s been around since the 70s or earlier
This is Ultrashift. never drove one of them. Thought it was Autoshift which still has clutch pedal. Drove one of those over 1/2 million miles with only one minimal problem. And it is same as reg Eaton 10. Didn't like down shift on hills.. Too slow. Got used to doing it manually. Also had to watch it on very steep descents.Better be in low enough gear. Can't over rev and get it slowed down. Other than that no problems. Drive an 18 now. Definitely my 1st choice.
I've never driven a semi before but i think they are pretty awesome vehicles and i like to watch videos on them but yeah I've heard volvos I-Shift is quite a nice thing to use but I've also heard that it isn't the greatest because it often picks the wrong gears and cannot sense wheel slip and will still shift down if your wheels are slipping. idk like I've said I've never driven a truck before so i wouldn't know myself
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@chrisytheblack01 when htey were first on teh market. i took one out on a evaluation trip. came back after 300 miles. i didnt like ultrashit. errm ultrashift. hteyve since improved. btus till i prefer teh clutching manuals. or sifting manuals sans clutch.
nice shoes...
The Wussification of Driving a Truck has arrived full force.
...this might be adequate for a highway truck on flat land......anywhere else...if you want an automatic...it better say Allison on it...
This seems almost like driving a normal car... Is it?
Have the number for a tow truck on speed dial
Heres some resons why I don't like it. First, It shifts to slow. When your upshifting waiting to go through every gear while turning left at a busy intersection with cars are coming at you 55 MPH sucks. They are assuming you are gonna be the professional and get out of the way or they may be texting and not watching better to get out fast. The down shifting is poor as well I dont like not being able to choose my own gears in a down grade knowing they are set in place and when down shifting to stop quickly the gear skipping sucks.
Second , AS FAR AS BEING COST EFFECTIVE THE ONLY PRACTICAL APPLICATION FOR THIS TRANS DUE TO ITS POOR DRIVABILITY IS THAT IN THE END ITS LIKE SPLITTING HAIRS WHEN IT COMES TO EFFICIENCY OVER A MANUAL "as long as the manual driver is a proficient shifter!" The only thing cost effective about it is you pay a unskilled laborer less money to drive it !
In conclusion, my personal opion is this trans was simply a way for eaton to try and capitalize on a need to make up for a lack of skilled drivers that is a dirrect resault of poor wages from companies and its also less safe due to its poor drivability.
There is no substitute for a professional driver who can properly shift.. I say if you are new to this industry learn to properly shift and become a professional and demand fair wages for it as do I.
Trying to substitute for the professional destroys fair wages and is unsafe in the end.
Why would you me tryimg to manual mode while turning, leave it in drive while doing such maneuvers
Not the I-Shift. It's awesome in winter.
No its because the Auto trans trucks are more dependable and cost less to run and drive, fuel mileage is way better, The automatic is the preferred trans all through europe.
Why is reverse on top and drive on bottom of neutral? Backwards don't you think???
No? It is exactly where it should be in North America, not sure about anywhere else though.
True now that i think about it, it is like a auto in a car. just weird since it is buttons and not a lever
eaton fuller 18 speed ftw
Since you seem to hint that you know more than me, let's see a video of your driving skills... I await your reply.
The US military has been using these transmissions for DECADES.....They went through ALL of their previous manual trans trucks, and REPLACED them with these units, and have had BY FAR LESS PROBLEMS with the ultrashifts then they had with the various manual transmissions (5 speed/10 speed/13 speed, etc.)they replaced.......If it's tough enough for the US MILITARY, it should do okay hauling ANYTHING on ANY road ANYWHERE.......
..I think the military uses Allison automatics rather than these pieces of shit...
Everyone wants to be a truck driver but when it’s time to jump in the belly of the beast they really don’t want to quit to easy and throw in the towel and then this is what the techno geeks come up with
You'd think with all the technological advancements in LED's and computers, the gear shift would have a better display. Hell, I bet it's totally wired and computerized. Why not bust out an extra $100 and put in an LCD?
it must be you !
all this trouble for what? just learn how to drive manual transmissions!!!
***** but manual is fun
Heri Zeledon In a big rig? Not so much, it's not a sporty feel like in a car. Even in a pickup, it's not as fun as in a lightweight car. I don't know if these hold up as well as a full manual, probably not and most companies and fleets will likely still use manual for years to come and I doubt they'll ever die, I can see why this is appealing. It's not bad for medium-duty trucks that drive local in cities with heavy traffic.
Heri Zeledon rights manuals are fun especially my old 6x4! autos are for those who CAN'T drive!
yes when you only have to push in the clutch petal 4 times a day like over the road drivers but try working on site and needing to push in a clutch petal to go forward to reverse 350 times a day for 13 hours and your opinion of fun and also of a ultra shift changes pretty quick
@@steamgent4592 Any able bodied human being on the planet can learn to drive manual trucks, this does not make you special.
and having driven both European and American trucks in my country (I'm not a trucker but like testing trucks, and I have a valid truck license), I'd take a silent and automatic truck any day. My knee has never been 100% ever since driving manual trucks for a bit (and I'm not even 30).
not in Germany
str88 grabage
better you get from volvo the i-shift, it is a dream.
Sorry, been driving too-long..., I just don’t like automatics- too many maintenance issues😝
Just get a VOLVO I-SHIFT the best heavy duty truck transmission there is..
give me a twin stick 5 and 4 old school
Yes, you can pass your test in an automatic... but show up at a company with Dump-trailers, high-flats, low-boy trailers, etc. and tell them you don't need to know how to shift because "you only need an automatic to pass the road test"... and you will be OUT.
The Road test, and the real world are two different things.
Just give me a 18 speed a lot easier. I can shift in my sleep.
i can also ,but working onsite for 13 hours forward and reverse 300+a day can change ones mind
Ultrashit
Yes, sadly many European trucks already have auto braking, only a matter of time until it makes its way to North America.
It won’t go to gear very bad
these transmissions are for professional steering wheel holders, but i'm just old school :)
I’d rather drive with an Allison but beggars can’t be choosers.
Automatics are useless in the winter climates.
...Why not just a column/floor-shift automatic?
Really. This is stupid. Too much automatic/automated bull that could go wrong.
I've operated 2 rigs with Eaton Autshifts. They are junk. I had issues with the transmission's computer and they constantly brake down. I'd have to say the hassle of break downs isn't worth it.
the end of my CDL & career if the company I work for buys this crap!
Might be out of a job then. More and more trucks are going automatic nowadays due partially to hands free distracted driving. In ten years, manuals will be a thing of the past.
You have got to be kidding...
Just like in other countrys automated manual transmissions are the way of the future. Get used to it! They are much safer and save fuel because of proper shifting.
Wrong. They encourage inattentive driving, they sacrifice significant productivity for .1% fuel savings, and they have the shifting logic of a 2 year old.
I disagree lazy people just want things too easy without putting. I any effort pulling 40 tons you have to be in maximum control with automatics that is not possible. I have tried auto shift and I can tell you you can not move 25 or 30 or 40 tons or more Pulling a loaded semi trailer. Is not the same as pulling a U haul trailer with your pick up truck with automatic transmission
5 min in and all i can think it would be cheaper to get real drivers that know how to shift had a older version of this nearly killed me driving my car carrier jammed in high gear and could not stop the truck got it to work and tor the tranny out of it never again
You are not making sense... tell me how an automatic "easier on your pocketbook?" I prefer a wallet anyway. Scare? Scared of what? Putting it in "drive"?
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You are not quite making sense... how is an automatic "better for your pocketbook"? I prefer a wallet anyway.
Scared? Scared of what? Putting something in "drive"?
They are junk. My company made the mistake of buying these for heavy duty vocational trucks and they have had to tow them several times when they were torque locked or refused to shift and had them destroy driveline components.
These transmissions of gutless in pulling inclines w/a load. An experienced driver shifts a manually effortlessly w/out having to think of what gear to select. The automatic are for novice and pussies. If you know how to clutchless shift a manual, no wear on the clutch or pedal itself. The unit I have has the original equipment because by teaching myself, I know how to shift matching rpms, road speed and engine/transmission sound. (Up & down) Eff all that double clutching and mesh they speak.
This transmission sucks by and Allison much easier to operate
Shifting is work... but it is necessary. Operating a heavy-rig with 25-tons of asphalt, sand, or whatever, requires driver control. A driver should not need a transmission to think for him and make every move. "Stabbing-and-steering" does not take much skill. With all the hassle of reprogramming these things and the problems that go with this auto-trans is not worth it. Learn to shift. If you can't, or don't want to, then don't drive a rig.
Robert Ruis I agree with you 1000 percent I learned stick if I can do it any one can people are lazy they just got to stick with it they need to find the rite instructer it was not easy but I did it and I thought some people on a 10 speed road ranger and they thought they could not do it but did well on it
nothing beats a road Ranger double clutch. This is for lazy drivers, or people too scared to drive stick.
+Mat Lalaga do you drive an automatic on your car? get with the technology dude. don't try to be a dumb tough truck driver.
Obviously, by your reply, you can't drive a ROADRANGER without grinding the teeth off the gears; and, YOU are one of those incapable drivers that would cause costly repairs.
Where I work, and many other respectable companies, would FIRE someone who cannot shift a truck. You would never get behind the wheel. Driving a rig with over 80K pounds of sand, stone, etc. requires someone who does not need a transmission to operate the truck for them. If YOU were a real driver YOU would know that.
this gerabox is shit!!!! in germany we have autogearbox with hill holder. this is from the 1970.
Ultra shift sounds like Ultra shit. Too many things to go wrong..
ya damn right
So in other words... DONT BUY the Eatonfuller auto! Because after 300,000 kilometres it will shit its self and the solenoids won't be-able to select the gear you want and piss away your fuel while it uses all 18 gears before it find it but it needs to change again and randomly decide to knock own a gear under normal road driving because it wants too!!!
Garbage EATON you wasting peoples money