Frampton's triple pickup had a dedicated volume for the middle pickup and if I remember correctly the toggle only controls bridge and neck. I saw it on the Gibson channel's Frampton collection.
Very unlikely that the PLEK Machine caused the fingerboard tooling marks. Its my opinion that the fingerboard tooling marks are the result of the process of filing down and shaping the fingerboard binding to produce the fret nibs. The process involved filing down the fingerboard binding to the flush height of the fingerboard.
@@jefffixesit60 Yeah, I can take them or leave them. I've an old 1980s Les Paul Custom that still has its fret nubs, I've zero issues with them (no separation or shrinkage). I gotta say though, having full width frets is a big plus.
I have an Eastman 386 and an Epiphone LP 1955 P 90, and neither of them have tooling mark on their respective rosewood, and ebony fretboards. I just don’t understand why US Gibson do.
I know you could modify by adding a switch to eliminate the bridge but is it possible to have a switched volume that when you pull it up it would eliminate the bridge. That's how I'd like to have it if I'd have one.
2:46 Austin, my OCD is asking you to please place a towel between the pickups and the gloss black nitrocellulose lacquer finish.................... Love the red flamed SG, however this all black SG looks fantastic with the ebony fingerboard and Super 400 inlays, the black is my favorite! Great content, Thank You Austin 👍😉
Okay, the appeal in getting the Harley Benton replica would be having the dedicated volume controls for all 3 pickups. Furthermore, I would prefer those push-pull switches being used for activating phase cancelation over coil splitting. Gibson's coil splitting system has always sounded like the sounding coil is being constricted while the other is being deactivated. I won't complain about it having 24 frets, however.
I wish Gibson would just put a 5 way switch on their 3 pickup guitars. And a neck on switch like I put in my strat would give you all pickup combinations.
While I'm not a Gibson guy or even an electric guitar guy, I like how Gibson has its Les Pauls and SGs in Standard, Special, Custom, Junior, Supreme, Studio etc models where you can pretty much guess whwt would be on the SG model if you know the corresponding LP model.
I think something similar to Brian May 3 single coil electronics would work real nice on a triple humbucker SG. Instead of mute and phase switches per humbucker, have one three way switch per humbucker that's wired to be off/coil tap/humbucker. (Or, you could do a single coil version that's wired off/on/phase on a three way switch. Same number of tones as a Brian May set up, just half the switches!) The Brian May set up would be more practical if it had 3 three way switches, a volume and a tone. If they're nice switches, and they're in a convenient location, it's easy enough to learn to get to any combo with a quick hand motion. The low profile switches on most Brian May set ups seem difficult to use. I also think 3 switches is enough - 2 per pick up gets complicated!
Woulda been really cool if they put a P94 in the middle position for those middle pole pieces to give it to that symmetry and more tone options. Rad guitar. The flame top bummed me out because the back was 3 pieces. For $3500 that's unacceptable.
IMO, it looks weird without the small '61 style pickguard. I don't usually like SG's without pickguards but it makes sense when they have flame tops. This one just looks meh... And no, I wouldn't drill screws into a $3500 guitar.
Back in 1990s had a chance to buy a white 1987 Gibson SG Les Paul Custom 3 Pickups and passed it up for the seller's 1975 Les Paul Custom (now long gone). For same reasons as I recently passed up a sweet natural SG Supreme in our local market. I'm not a collector and I don't like 3 massive humbuckers to play over, as awesome as they look. Now an HSH that's a different matter (no not a P90 in the middle though that might still work better than 3xHB).
I like the Wine Red better. Black is too generic, and shows fingerprints way too much. As much as I love 3-pickup guitars, those humbuckers are really close to one another, and it does make it a little hard to pick in different places. My favorite of these new SG Supremes is still the Wine Red one, and I’ve got a 2002 blue Supreme that looks pretty cool. These new ones are tempting though!
Absolutely beautiful... one question though...is the strap button necessary out on the tip of the horn?... It seems better at the heel...but I suppose if the headstock is heavy.,.the horn strap button perhaps would bring a balance
What do you think about the strap button location? Do you think there's a risk of splitting the wood, especially if installing something like Schaller straplocks? Seems a bad place to put a strap with it being so pointy.
I like both the Black and the Red but the Black wins in opinion. But so many quality issues for so much money! Gibson needs to hire a Quality Assurance Consultant to help get things under control.
Usually Gibson will opt for a "chicken head" rotary switch. You might like the SG-3 series. I agree though, a strat switch would be fun and easier to use
Hey Trog. Do you write songs too? I recognize a lot of the snippits you use during the demos, but there was one that I didn't recognize, and it was cool. 13:08 to 13:37... or maybe it's something I've never heard from another artist?
2:47 This may be a silly question, but I noticed that these 2024 pickups still have "Patent Applied For" stickers, same as those PAF's from the 70s or 80s... Hasn't the patent been authorised/accepted since then? As I said, may be on a totally wrong trace here, but it kinda confuses me hahaha
@@Trog but why? Considering how much they charge, they should have absolutely no problem whatsoever with making a white guitar with no contamination. Every single other brand manage it just fine. Even Harley Benton do it just fine. So what's the problem? Why are Gibson so terrible?
could have put golden coloured knobs on...would have been in line withthe rest of the "hardware".....and looked better too....but hey....not for me either....
Three humbuckers could seem like a very cool thing... Believe me, three won't get you any more usable tones than two pickups will. I've had a Les Paul Custom with three pickups. It was cherry sunburst. BELIEVE ME! Don't waste your money.
I pre-fer the Ebony with the Gold hardware , its a classic look , though the Wine tis beautiful & flamey ...Thanks Trog ! Gee I hope others agree with me !!!
I own 7 gibsons.. pales compared to trogster.... but man much cheaper guitars have flawless finishes with no tooling marks.. like wtf anger all this time this shouldn't be happening. I love mine don't get me wrong
That 3 humbucker SG reminds me of Neil Young's Black Beauty. It's not as cool as it kind of looks weird as it's not as chunky but I still like it. I'd never pay that price though.
How is that thing wired? When you have the middle pickup selected, aren't you supposed to turn down the volume on the other two so you can isolate it? I'm pretty sure that's how my '61 Les Paul is wired.
There’s two ways to wire up Gibsons, independent volumes (sometimes called “50s wiring”) or like this where if you turn one all the way down, they all turn off. I don’t know why Gibson does it the “0 kills the entire guitar” way.)
Did either of these supremes have a weird barnyard smell to the guitar/case? I got mine yesterday and it smells TERRIBLE. Also, do you know what strings it ships with? They seem very thin.
@@Trog the shop (well reviewed on Reverb) had it listed as brand new. Someone suggested it might be buffing compound that they didn’t wipe and stuck to the case. If that’s the case, how would you suggest removing it? It’s leaving a grey film on the guitar every time I put it in there
I prefer the Ebony. Honestly, the figured tops look a little gaudy. The Ebony has a more vintage vibe, which I appreciate. But yes, I agree that Gibson should release one in white!
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Gibson completely missed the "Just One More!" marketing for a potential 25th fret. Well spotted Trogly!
Twenty Five frets is BAD LUCK! 24 is JUST RIGHT!
They would charge you an extra 1000 dollars 😂
Frampton's triple pickup had a dedicated volume for the middle pickup and if I remember correctly the toggle only controls bridge and neck. I saw it on the Gibson channel's Frampton collection.
Yep. Just saw that lol
Very unlikely that the PLEK Machine caused the fingerboard tooling marks.
Its my opinion that the fingerboard tooling marks are the result of the process of filing down and shaping the fingerboard binding to produce the fret nibs.
The process involved filing down the fingerboard binding to the flush height of the fingerboard.
I'm not a fan of fret nibs. Full width frets for me, please😁
@@jefffixesit60 Yeah, I can take them or leave them. I've an old 1980s Les Paul Custom that still has its fret nubs, I've zero issues with them (no separation or shrinkage). I gotta say though, having full width frets is a big plus.
@@jefffixesit60 Completely agree, more trouble than they are worth. I only buy nibless Gibsons now. Which kind of limits the options.
Hey trogly i viewed a 1970's black sabbath video and Toni Iomi played a 3 pickup gibson sg
The QC DEPT at Gibson should be ashamed of themselves and get to the eye doctor's now!
For what they price gouge us at, yes! Absolutely.
i like the the cherry burst flame top. has more class and is beautiful. triple pickups are hard to play because the middle pickup is in the way.
I have an Eastman 386 and an Epiphone LP 1955 P 90, and neither of them have tooling mark on their respective rosewood, and ebony fretboards. I just don’t understand why US Gibson do.
That SG with 3 pick ups screams Rock n’ Roll!!!
How about including string gauge and height at the 12th fret in your documentation process ?😎
Looks wise? That red shoots the black out of the sky
Yup. I love black guitars but this one, nope.
Agreed!
I know you could modify by adding a switch to eliminate the bridge but is it possible to have a switched volume that when you pull it up it would eliminate the bridge. That's how I'd like to have it if I'd have one.
I really don't like that new chandelier headstock inlay they're using, I much prefer the old classic style.
Is that what it's called? I kinda dig it
Gotta say, definitely like the input jack on the bottom rather than on top.
I’m going to need to listen to the triple bucker LP back to back. I remember loving the sounds on that demo.
2:46 Austin, my OCD is asking you to please place a towel between the pickups and the gloss black nitrocellulose lacquer finish....................
Love the red flamed SG, however this all black SG looks fantastic with the ebony fingerboard and Super 400 inlays, the black is my favorite!
Great content, Thank You Austin 👍😉
Okay, the appeal in getting the Harley Benton replica would be having the dedicated volume controls for all 3 pickups. Furthermore, I would prefer those push-pull switches being used for activating phase cancelation over coil splitting. Gibson's coil splitting system has always sounded like the sounding coil is being constricted while the other is being deactivated. I won't complain about it having 24 frets, however.
How about including string gauge and height at the 12th fret in your documentation process?😎
Same exact wiring as the Kirk Douglas
like the old red one ? or also the new beside the master volume
@@acdclexu6296 the newer version. Not the 2013.
I wish Gibson would just put a 5 way switch on their 3 pickup guitars. And a neck on switch like I put in my strat would give you all pickup combinations.
While I'm not a Gibson guy or even an electric guitar guy, I like how Gibson has its Les Pauls and SGs in Standard, Special, Custom, Junior, Supreme, Studio etc models where you can pretty much guess whwt would be on the SG model if you know the corresponding LP model.
I have the les paul version, I was really hoping this one would be white as a nice counterpart to the les paul. Woulda got it if it was, oh well.
As an SG lover, I am into this instrument 100%. This is just what the doctor ordered.
Loving all the SG love lately
I think something similar to Brian May 3 single coil electronics would work real nice on a triple humbucker SG.
Instead of mute and phase switches per humbucker, have one three way switch per humbucker that's wired to be off/coil tap/humbucker.
(Or, you could do a single coil version that's wired off/on/phase on a three way switch. Same number of tones as a Brian May set up, just half the switches!)
The Brian May set up would be more practical if it had 3 three way switches, a volume and a tone.
If they're nice switches, and they're in a convenient location, it's easy enough to learn to get to any combo with a quick hand motion.
The low profile switches on most Brian May set ups seem difficult to use. I also think 3 switches is enough - 2 per pick up gets complicated!
I haven’t held one like this, but just looking at it, the middle pickup seems totally in the way. Sign me up for a Jr model instead 😂
I would totally put a white pickguard on that! ❤❤
Woulda been really cool if they put a P94 in the middle position for those middle pole pieces to give it to that symmetry and more tone options. Rad guitar. The flame top bummed me out because the back was 3 pieces. For $3500 that's unacceptable.
White 3 pickup would be awesome.
IMO, it looks weird without the small '61 style pickguard. I don't usually like SG's without pickguards but it makes sense when they have flame tops. This one just looks meh... And no, I wouldn't drill screws into a $3500 guitar.
Back in 1990s had a chance to buy a white 1987 Gibson SG Les Paul Custom 3 Pickups and passed it up for the seller's 1975 Les Paul Custom (now long gone). For same reasons as I recently passed up a sweet natural SG Supreme in our local market. I'm not a collector and I don't like 3 massive humbuckers to play over, as awesome as they look. Now an HSH that's a different matter (no not a P90 in the middle though that might still work better than 3xHB).
Trans white over flame maple would look good. I'm just saying...
I love this thing. I usually like really bright and flashy colours on guitars… but this thing in black speaks to me for some reason.
Multi ply pickguard (small one) would look great on that one, agreed.
I like the Wine Red better. Black is too generic, and shows fingerprints way too much. As much as I love 3-pickup guitars, those humbuckers are really close to one another, and it does make it a little hard to pick in different places. My favorite of these new SG Supremes is still the Wine Red one, and I’ve got a 2002 blue Supreme that looks pretty cool. These new ones are tempting though!
I love Les Paul's and SGs the most, but never with three humbuckers. They just don't fit. They don't look good.
Plain maple is beautiful, but really heavy.
Is figured maple lighter than plain maple?
That thing is AWESOME!! It sounds GREAT! More distortion is just a mere Mesa Boogie away! I wish Gibson would do a TV Yellow Supreme or Custom.
Playing position on SG for our right hand is diffrent. Our right hand position is more forward than other guitar.
Nigel Tufnel already owns that 25 fret model. Look it up.
Does it go to 11
It goes to 25.
I don’t know, how is it “Supreme” if you can’t see the 10 top?
Edit: maybe a trans-ebony so you get a hint of the wood grain?
Absolutely beautiful... one question though...is the strap button necessary out on the tip of the horn?... It seems better at the heel...but I suppose if the headstock is heavy.,.the horn strap button perhaps would bring a balance
What do you think about the strap button location? Do you think there's a risk of splitting the wood, especially if installing something like Schaller straplocks? Seems a bad place to put a strap with it being so pointy.
WOW, the clean tone on this guitar is just out-fucking-standing !
I like both the Black and the Red but the Black wins in opinion. But so many quality issues for so much money! Gibson needs to hire a Quality Assurance Consultant to help get things under control.
My head hurts....I hope this thing comes with an instruction manual to explain how to use the controls.
They should put the screw thingies in the center of the middle picky thingies. 😁
That would make it a p-94 single coil… which the mod shop sometimes will do, but then you lose hum-cancelling with that pickup in the circuit.
i just see now that she have a side jack i was so confused something looked strange beside the strapbutton placement
A three ply pickguard would really lift the black SG
Right, the sg just doesn't look right to me without a pick guard!😂
@@Steve.Cutler I got it in before you today, it's an hour earlier over here 🙂
When Dave signature
in the process of recording it today. Few more days
do all sg supremes have the strap button on the horn?
Yes
I don’t like it. How about you?
The new ones do anyway...
@@d.a.6608 it looks very weird having just a circle on the end of a point, it makes me think that the screw may be loose.
black beauty 61 les paul?
I long for the day that our Trog becomes president and CEO of Gibson.
wouldn't something like a strat 5 way switch be fun with one of these?
Usually Gibson will opt for a "chicken head" rotary switch. You might like the SG-3 series. I agree though, a strat switch would be fun and easier to use
a 25th fret would have been cool and good fun idea , I agree.
I'm surprised Gibson and Ceasar didn't send one to Gary Clark Jr. Or Maybe they have?
Hey Trog. Do you write songs too? I recognize a lot of the snippits you use during the demos, but there was one that I didn't recognize, and it was cool. 13:08 to 13:37... or maybe it's something I've never heard from another artist?
$3,499.00......I would rather buy a better guitar for much less with fewer goodies.
I want one, pretty please with a fried brownie ice cream sunday on top with whip cream, cherry and chopped nuts.
The red one look way better for me 👌
What do you mean by "white finishes are a little bit more difficult for Gibson to produce"?
contamination issues
I thought the same thing about the poker chip before you mentioned it.
I've never heard someone play Thunderhorse before now....hell, I didn't even know people knew Dethklok.
This is such an unaware hipster comment lol
@@jr2904 I'm neither of those, but your assumption makes me realize what I am dealing with.
I liked the overdriven sound. I don’t care for distortion with hbs.
U r finally learning about the real guitar
The infamous SG
5:39 What are “polishing squirrels”? 😀😉
4:51 Mahogany
nice git-fiddle ! to nice to actually play
Man that thing looks classy.
This channel is inspiring me to buy a Gibson. I already have one so far
Yeah. 25 frets! One more than the rest. More than modern. It's the future! Gibson.
2:47 This may be a silly question, but I noticed that these 2024 pickups still have "Patent Applied For" stickers, same as those PAF's from the 70s or 80s... Hasn't the patent been authorised/accepted since then? As I said, may be on a totally wrong trace here, but it kinda confuses me hahaha
it is more a tradition thing at this point.
13:32 I thought you were going to play Green Money by America for a second there.
Why are white finishes more difficult for Gibson to produce? I get that quality control isn't their speciality but they are a premier manufacturer
Contamination issues.
@@Trog but why? Considering how much they charge, they should have absolutely no problem whatsoever with making a white guitar with no contamination. Every single other brand manage it just fine. Even Harley Benton do it just fine. So what's the problem? Why are Gibson so terrible?
I really really really like the 3pickup black beauty SG... Now about that price.
Love it. But I'd most likely change all the gold to chrome
could have put golden coloured knobs on...would have been in line withthe rest of the "hardware".....and looked better too....but hey....not for me either....
I hope they make an Epiphone version. I want one bad but totally can't afford it.
is that a neck thru?
It's gorgeous
Nope, long neck tenon, set neck.
The Custom headstock inlay is much better than these 🤘🤘
Three humbuckers could seem like a very cool thing... Believe me, three won't get you any more usable tones than two pickups will. I've had a Les Paul Custom with three pickups. It was cherry sunburst. BELIEVE ME! Don't waste your money.
Definitely worth playing and owning.🎼🎸🎼
I still wish they would have used the diablo carve on these new supremes!
Chibson ?
Might as well be😂
I still prefer the Kirk Douglas, with the Vibrato and the Master volume control, over either of these. Just my opinion.
I pre-fer the Ebony with the Gold hardware , its a classic look , though the Wine tis beautiful & flamey ...Thanks Trog ! Gee I hope others agree with me !!!
Stunning
Z is for late.
I own 7 gibsons.. pales compared to trogster.... but man much cheaper guitars have flawless finishes with no tooling marks.. like wtf anger all this time this shouldn't be happening. I love mine don't get me wrong
No neck dive, unlike the previous NAMM one.
Loves my Trogly time!!!
Yeah, that could use a pearloid half-guard to complete the look.
Pick gaurds are for covering up crappy wood work . So...
Ive never cared for the Burstbucker Pro pickups. Too much midrange for my taste. Nice looking guitar though, with no pickguard needed
no flame top
should have a pickguard
That 3 humbucker SG reminds me of Neil Young's Black Beauty. It's not as cool as it kind of looks weird as it's not as chunky but I still like it. I'd never pay that price though.
How is that thing wired? When you have the middle pickup selected, aren't you supposed to turn down the volume on the other two so you can isolate it? I'm pretty sure that's how my '61 Les Paul is wired.
There’s two ways to wire up Gibsons, independent volumes (sometimes called “50s wiring”) or like this where if you turn one all the way down, they all turn off. I don’t know why Gibson does it the “0 kills the entire guitar” way.)
Chandelier 1/3 smaller in abalone and would be special
Did either of these supremes have a weird barnyard smell to the guitar/case? I got mine yesterday and it smells TERRIBLE. Also, do you know what strings it ships with? They seem very thin.
no barn smells on this. Specs say 10s. You might've got a "used" unit
@@Trog the shop (well reviewed on Reverb) had it listed as brand new. Someone suggested it might be buffing compound that they didn’t wipe and stuck to the case. If that’s the case, how would you suggest removing it? It’s leaving a grey film on the guitar every time I put it in there
I can't justify Gibson prices these days. I still like them, but for the money I go Eastman. MUCH better QC.
I prefer the Ebony. Honestly, the figured tops look a little gaudy. The Ebony has a more vintage vibe, which I appreciate. But yes, I agree that Gibson should release one in white!
So many positions Trogley......so little time.🎸 🕰