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This guitar is in crappy condition! It looks like its been laying on the beach somewhere. All the hardware is rusty, and the top is completely unremarkable its an ugly piece of wood, with an ugly color sunburst.
@@masterofreality230 Consider yourself lucky. 13.000 is a "low price" for a STANDARD here. Not a custo shop. A simple les paul standard. This custom shop ones are abput 40.000
This is the perfect specimen of why Gibson needs to resume reasonable pricing for their inventory. It's also a great example of how purchasing a signature instead of just a guitar is a total waste. Slash himself probably told Gibson that they made a boo-boo with this one because of the price.
The pricing is from the Henry J era..Era...all kinds of bad management. A boring guitar with a famous name is not worth 13k...unless you are collecting all the Slash Specials
@@formattable1 To be totally fair, at the time with Gibson at a low ebb he didn't exactly have an abundance of options in that regard. Many people today forget that Slash pretty much brought the Les Paul back from obscurity.
Its overpriced for sure but its not a les paul standard, in the modern sense, its a signature model r8 with a brazilian board. I think an r8 new is 5k, slap on 2k artist premium and whatever they want for the fretboard…. Limited run r9s with brazilian go for like 15k. I think its stupid, new brazilian rosewood isnt in any way meaningfully better than anything else
@@andy_182 subjectively i think its overpriced: as mentioned its essentially an r8 with a brazilian board which is worth half the asking, market imo. An artist premium intrinsically makes something overpriced,You agree to overpay for the artist representation. Its also objectively overpriced via the market that didnt buy them, thats why gibson was left with so many. Its just math
Does seem a bit ironic, doesn't it? "Yeah, thanks for spending $12K on our plain-Jane one of a gozillion Slash guitars, but this one has banned wood, now here's a tool to make it worthless!" Meh!
PRS is going to kill Fender and Gibson In time. They are expensive guitars but good lord….The unbelievable guitar you’d get for 13k from a Private Stock PRS… Not to mention them knocking it outside of the park with their silver sky.
@@liamwagner9160 Na Fender and Gibson will always be around as they have their loyal following and the history behind them. Fender still sells more guitars that anyone I believe.
@@liamwagner9160Leo Fender sold Fender. He owns Has music man now and G & L Legacy. I don’t think the Silver Sky PRS holds a candle to a standard American strat. PRS isn’t all that either .. If anything Yamaha is the future.. but it’s still is fender and Gibson.
yeah, but then you have a PRS and not a Gibson. I want a Gibson and not some lawyers guitar. And i am not alone with that opinion, thats also the reason why PRS will not dethrone Fender and Gibson. Guitarists are stubborn and irrational so Gibson can charge those prices. The price for the one in the video is nuts tho...
I sure as hell wouldn't pay an extra nine thousand dollars for a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard 😵💫🙄 Even if it was Korina wood AND Brazilian Rosewood, plus his signature...pass. Some dreamer on Reverb has one listed for $22,900. Can't wait to see what the Trogmeister lists his for. 😬
90% of the fools/collectors that buy these are like degenerate gamblers rolling the dice. Oh yeah, most can't even play guitar. Who da hell would spend 10+k for a guitar? What, to play it in your basement? haha An actual guitar player could buy a great Les Paul, tele and a strat, nice amp and effects for the price of this one stupid slash LP.
Maybe at one point they'll realize that a bazillion Slash models aren't what players want. They are so stubborn with they boomerish stuff that there's no wonder why these didn't sell. Nothing special, overpriced, for collectors only, MEH
"Boomerish"? I dont know any boomers that were into GnR, they are a GenX fanbased originally. They came in late to the 80s Era as well. I agree about the rest of your comment though.
to be fair, it wasn't unsellable, they just asked a ridiculous amount for it. And then they still got more for it a few years later than they probably should have. So they still won, it sure didn't cost anywhere near $10,000 to make this.
The new management especially won as it was a sunk cost on their books from the previous administration. Selling them for anything is like found money to them.
It didnt cost $500 to make it. Probably less. Gibson still could make 59 Les Pauls exactly like they used to and sell them as their everyday Les Paul at bargain prices. What? They lost the instructions? No. They make them as some kind of extraodinary feat of guitar building and sell them at 5 figures. And put out an inferior product as their everyday model. Either make the guitar youre known for or go away. When will people learn that Gibson is into ripping off their customers with lies? 1959? They cant make a 60 year old design?? Bullshit. Fuck Gibson. Too many way better choices for way less dough. You buy a new Gibson youre a sap.
@@jcripp7974 IDK about that. There is a fair amount of parts and labor that go into an all mahogany, carved (and often quilted) top, set-neck guitar. Les Pauls have always been expensive and sold as "top of the line" pro grade instruments. Also, since the latest product line revamp, the standard LP's have gotten much better IMHO.
Brazilian board was a fairly common feature on PRS guitars to like 2009 (Artist Package, some limited runs). I own a 2007 PRS McCarty with Brazilian board and paid about $3000 new for it. Even adjusted for inflation, that one was massively cheaper than this.
@@ToTheMaxGaming1 In 1967, the Brazilian government outlawed the export of Brazilian rosewood logs and in 1992 the newly formed CITES convention declared Brazilian rosewood a threatened species. As a result, most nations throughout the world declared it illegal to harvest, export or import any Brazilian rosewood (including products produced from Brazilian rosewood) harvested after 1992. In 2008 the United States Congress expanded the Lacey Act to include wood products and required chain of custody for every step of ownership of Brazilian rosewood to insure compliance with U.S.A. and international regulations. Thus, prices soared and when manufacturers current stock on hand ran out…
@@ToTheMaxGaming1 nope. I didn’t. Sure Gibson’s cost more, nothing to see here. You pointed out your 2007 for 3k. That was prior to the 2009 expansion of the Lacey Act. What BR cost in 2007, is irrelevant. Absolutely Gibson prices are crazy…But legal BR is not inexpensive, or easy to come by after 2010, as you claimed. Not legally.
@@ToTheMaxGaming1 I read it the first time. Was right then…Here’s a tip, understand what you write. “Common”, is a common word. Look it up. Irrelevant is a little more difficult, but you can do it, Puddin. I know you can.
Being partially made of Brazilian Rosewood made me think of CITES Regulations. But, I found this: "As of 2019, CITES regulations were lifted regarding rosewood instruments. Meaning that if you travel, buy, sell, or trade rosewood-made guitars, no longer are you required to have an article 10 permit. You can even move freely with guitars made of rosewood and exceed the previous weight limit without a permit."
@@Trog Bummer. So, does that mean if you travel internationally with a Brazilian Rosewood guitar purchased in the US, and you "don't" have the appropriate paperwork, your guitar could be seized/impounded?
Great playing demo this time. My favorite Trogly playing demo was definitely with the Adam Jones Silverburst. That was a good one. You could tell he really put some work into it.
I love GNR and I'm a fan of Slash. I do feel that there is a shameless amount of Slash-related gear out there, and maybe there's an exhaustion factor dragging down sales (in addition to the crazy high price). I really do like the look of this guitar though.
NOT EVERY Les Paul needs to have a flame top. BTW , I bought a Slash 2022 this year and it has one of the most unique tops around and I paid the same as I did for my 60s Standard 2021. It is simply a killer guitar.
@@thenameless3271 mainly the neck is the biggest difference. Slimmer on the 60s. Love both. Slash Gibson pups are just incredible sounding , it's a rock and roll machine! the 60s stock pups are more mellow but hella sustain. Both are flawless straight from Gibson.
I bought a 60s bourbon burst that is more flamed than the AAA bursts I see advertised on Sweetwater/MF. I have to wonder if someone in Nashville made a mistake
Those custom buckers sound fantastic! 99% of the old 70’s T Tops. I appreciate seeing less tooling marks on the fret board as well. To bad you have to pay Gibson a small fortune to get that.
Gibson are selling ill;egal Guitars. I live in the UK, i couldn't buy one. Brazillian RW is CITES legislated, to import or export this wood or even sell it is highly illegal. I'm sure Gibson have done their homework though or have a Palm they can grease to get what they want. They don't even fit the case's they come in, it's wadded out, bad, bad, $13,000.00 woowee!
Personally, one of my favorite guitars I own is my epiphone slash Les Paul. Only 1 volume and 1 tone pot, and it actually has, Seymour Duncan's in it. Paid 250 for it, and the sustain out of it is absolutely insane. It carries a note forever. No way would I pay 13k for this one. It is nice lookin, but definitely not worth 13k
I could never afford to pay $13,000 for a guitar or ever justify this purchase, it just seems ridiculously overpriced, and for the price it’s appallingly badly made , not what you would expect from a $13,000 guitar!
I've got one of those Epiphone Slash Les Pauls, too, and I agree, they are great guitars, and they do the job just as well as the 13 grand Gibson model. If I were ever to become famous enough to rate a signature guitar, I would ask that Epiphone builds it, so that my fans can actually afford to buy one.
@@andy_182 no they don't. I have 9 guitars all with different pick ups in them and they all don't sound the same. Each one has a different sound to them. Trust me.
@@andyginterblues2961 they truly are awesome. I've bought 2 guitars in my life brand new. The slash one and my Joe bonamassa epiphone 58 black beauty. All my other's are used and done up to what I like. Except for my epiphone SG custom prophecy. That has the zakk wylde pickups in it. But all my other epiphones have all different pick ups. One of mine has the dime bag Darryl ones that the bridge pick up has that hot rail look to it. Fuckin love the sound of that.
The Slash thing is starting to be ridiculous. Signature guitars i never even saw him pictured with much less the model being synonymous with him. I don’t understand the marketing at all from either. Gibson looks fooling putting out a Slash double neck while Page, Felder and Lifeson are still alive. And Slash comes off as the biggest carpetbagger in history. And let’s cut the shit he’s an ok player that gets propelled up based on his image. Now he’s an ok player starting to look like a money grub. Suddenly ok starts to become shit
Nahh .. i think it's OK because Gibson owed him so much - remember he single handedly carrying Gibson flag while everybody play with sharp pointy headstock guitars back in 80's. Nobody touched Gibson back then. If you were rock guitarist usually you got Ibanez or Jackson or even BC Rich. Seem like, in 80's , rockstars images allign with sharp pointy headstock guitar.
Yes, but it can't be understated just how much he did to bring the Les Paul back into the spotlight in the mid 80's. (and frankly, Gibson isn't exactly getting their guitars into a lot of hot young acts these days, so they return to the well they know).
@@Tim85-y2q I can not imagine why young starving artist are not lining up to pay $3k for crappy qc and a sub par instrument, I am baffled lol I own a lower end Les Paul, they are an American icon, I would like them to do better.
@@masterofreality230 Sure, but I think a lot of it is more to do with interest than anything else. If musicians in hot, up and coming acts wanted to play Les Pauls, Gibson could surely find a way to find a way to get those guitars into their hands and onto their stages. Look at all the young artists Fender has scooped up over a variety of genres that are popular with the youth. That's what gets guitars seen and drives sales, like it or not. Gibson is increasingly becoming a brand exclusively for middle aged blues rock fans and retro hard rock acts, and that's not going to cut it.
So, I am not the target market for this (love Slash, but am not a $15k guitar buyer), but I will say it definitely sounded iconic in all the right ways and it looked like you were having a lot of fun playing it . . .
I recently bought the Epi Slash "Appetite for Destruction" Les Paul Special ll" from an ad on my local FB Marketplace, used. I scored the guitar, a Fender Mustang ll Vll (solid state) amp. gig bag, strap, a stack of guitar instruction books, all for $300. The seller had bought the entire setup for her teenage son, who decided that he wasn't all that interested in guitar. So mom bought the kid a keyboard, and reported that he took right off, and is now a natural at keys. I told her that I might hire him to play in my band someday! The Epi has some of the same appointments as this Gibby version, however the top of the Epi is flat, and finished in a yellow, "Tiger Maple" look. The pickups on my Epi version are awesome, though, it has become the guitar that's the most played in my entire collection.
The guitar is my perfect idea of a Les Paul. I like active wood of course. But this is really a gorgeous example to me. Is it worth $13k? Nah. Brazilian Rosewood aside...no guitar is really worth $13 k. I wouldnt touch it for $3K. Anything over a thousand is a waste of money to me. Unfortunately if a run of these through Epiphone were to happen they too would likely exceed that $1k price point making them too expensive for guys like me who love guitars but refuse to overspend for something that sonically is being achieved at $300. Still....this is a beautiful piece. I wonder if the aging might have a little to do with the fact they sat unsold and shipped back to Gibson for the last 4 years. Not all of the aging. Whatever...as plain as you say it is...there is really something special about these as I look at it on my .... Phone...😳
I agree, anything over $1,000 (new) is a waste of money these days. For the same $13k, I could have 26 x $500 guitars and a lot more fun, and wouldn't have flithy pig needing a bath Slash's connection...
In the early 80s when I was still in my 20s, I visited my then-married sister and her husband in New Jersey near Philadelphia. My brother-in-law took me to Philly's Eighth Street Music, where I saw a gorgeous Fender Stratocaster Ultra. My brother-in-law offered to get someone to unlock the display case it was in, but I declined. I had no money, the axe was expensive, and I KNEW I would love it, but also that it would hurt like hell to leave it behind. Since I had no other choice, I didn't TOUCH it. That's about the way I feel about this GLP. The big difference is that I would almost certainly hate the neck on this axe! My favorite necks are shredder-thin. I have a Schecter C-1 Elite, an Ibanez EX370, an RG220B also from Ibanez and a Jackson JS22 Dinky DKA. All of these axes have thin necks and jumbo frets (extra jumbo frets on the Schecter), 3 of them have a 14-inch cylindrical (traditional) fretboard radius, and the Jackson has a conical (aka compound) radius. These are the kind of necks I like; with hands like mine, I don't enjoy very thick necks. That Slash GLP looks great to me, but I just won't like that neck -- especially well enough to justify paying the price for one.
I'm around your same age. For years I preferred the slimmer neck profiles. As I get older my left hand sometimes cramps up a bit from playing. I found the thicker neck profiles allow my hand to play in a more relaxed position, the larger profile just seems more comfortable for longer playing sessions. Don't get me wrong, I still have my favorite medium "C" Strat so I can play thumb over top style. I was just surprised by how the thicker neck helped my playing. Yeah, I wouldn't have opened the case of that Ultra either (looking out for yourself and side-stepping the potential pain of not taking that Ultra home with you).
Yeah I’m not a huge fan on the luxe just do the burst in the neck definitely agree my hands are small so the 60 Nick profile is much better for me trying to get used to the larger neck though
@@hkguitar1984 I have both neck profiles/ 50's and 60's....you are right about hand being more relaxed position with the thicker neck. The 60s is nice too. I have the best of both worlds.
And aside that CITES thing, you really get nuts when you realize that you can get a very nice slab of rosewood (jacarandá for us down here) with almost every luthier for less than 100usd.
You can purchase a Brazilian fretboard blank for $200, Gibson is charging a HUGE PREMIUM, a $3000 guitar they are charging $10,000 for the fretboard. Gibson is successfully pricing themselves out of the market. Dr.s, Lawyers and super wealthy businessmen that are on tv shows can only buy so many of these guitars for wall art and bragging rights.
Im so glad you covered this guitar, i've always wanted to play one of these, slash was such an inspiration to me starting playing guitar and something like this is d e f i n i t e l y, out of my range! Amazing review as always!
I got the opportunity to play #97 a few weeks ago at the Gibson Garage. Truly the best sounding guitar I've ever played. Definitely not in my price range, but maybe one day if I win the lottery I'll get one second hand. For now, I'll just be forever searching for the magic of that guitar but for like a quarter of the price.
for my backplate i have a small space between one corner of the plate and the wood. my tiny flathead fits inside of it, to pry the plate with no issues or cosmetic issues.
These prices are really starting to get out of hand. I fortunately, have been blessed to have amassed just about everything I have ever wanted, music wise (I’ve worked very hard for my money). For the young, up and coming musician, it’s beginning to get impossible to acquire reasonably priced, quality equipment without going terribly in debt. Hell, just cables alone can break you.
This is the reason i hate gibson.I mean i understand the look is iconic and nothing really sounds like a gibson but the crazy prices for limited editions or even brand new guitars can t be justified. And on a lot of murphy lab models the aging job is so shit compared to fender or other brands. They get a big name like slash or adam jones and they put a crazy price, price wich you could get 8 guitars and get every variation of specs a guitar could have
Did you ever document the 2004 Slash custom with a built in piezo pickup? I've only played a handful of his guitars but that one was particularly nice.
I think I realize now why they may have done this guitar this way - if they added a flametop and flamey neck with lots of binding and such it would edge the price up towards $20 grand out of the box retail and it may have just been taking an already limited production item and making it even more limited as some guys might consider a 10 grand guitar but a 20 grand might be just too much. But yeah, the tones are spot on.
"I think I realize now why they may have done this guitar this way" Because they know guitar players are stupid and buy guitars for the label alone so they saw no need to waste money on figured maple tops?
These "demo-shop" placements are Gibson's way of admitting that they were over-priced in the first place. It's the only way they could drop the price without losing the faith of the first-time-around buyers.
It's crazy. I was pissed off about having to pay 3 Grand for my Custom Shop AFD when they were brought out just over 10 yrs ago but now, when I look at the cost of newer CS built Gibsons I'm like 'wow, mine was pretty cheap in comparison'. I think the prices are mental & I'd never buy one now but if people are prepared to pay for them then you can't really blame Gibson for doing it.
I don't necessarily think 3 grand is out of line for a truly pro grade instrument (though is out of my price range), but it's debatable whether most Gibsons qualify. You can get any number of great boutique builders to make you a truly custom instrument for that price range.
@@Tim85-y2q it is for a guitar that is notorious for easy headstock breaks. Sorry, but the qc out of Gibson is horrible now. Not worth their prices when there are other companies selling Les Paul styled guitars for same quality at substantially lower prices.
@@klonklone7787 Hence why I said "it's debatable whether Gibsons qualify". Personally, I do think the QC and range of offerings has improved at least somewhat under the new management though. If I was able to and going to spend that kind of money on a guitar I would get something else, but I do think that kind of price point has a place IF the quality is there.
@@CatBlackGuitars About a year ago I was struggling with finger picking on my Jumbo Martin. At that time I'd mentioned that a smaller Parlor guitar would better suit this type of playing. All on her own my Wife picked out a little Fender acoustic Parlor guitar for me. We live near Elderly's music in Lansing MI., so she had our Son go down there and pick out the best player. They all surprised me this morning with it! I love the small size while sitting around while relaxing and playing.
@@CatBlackGuitars It really is. This is the second guitar she has surprised me with. I am just amazed that with all my constant blabbering of guitar specs she remembered mahogany back, spruce top! She is a keeper, the guitar is nice too!
So, because some famous person really likes a guitar with some certain specs, they charge people an extra 9000 for it? I never understood that and never will.
When you first pulled it out of the case I thought it might have an ebony fretboard to give some sort of uniqueness to a very plain-looking guitar. The darkness stood out. I was wrong, but the Brazilian does look nice. Overall, my main impression of this guitar is one of boredom - similar to the feeling I get when I see a regular production Les Paul. Actually, a lot of them have more personality than this particular guitar. It did sound great though IMO, but how many of these actually get played? I assume that it’s strictly an investment for 95% of the buyers, but what do I know. Anyone have any insight?
True Brazilian rosewood trees have been illegal to cut down for a few decades now. What little amount each manufacturer has left on hand is it. Once they run out, it's gone. Forever. So it is priced with that in mind.
i am pretty certain that those pickups aint slash's signature series, because my friend owns an Anastasia les paul aka Gibson Les Paul Slash Standard AA and we opened the pickups and on the back both of the pickups they do had the icon similar to your wristband/hat
The problem is they are selling basically standards with an up-charge for a signature. Does Slash even play those new Gibson pickups they are putting in there, instead of the Duncan’s?
Honestly I just hate flame tops, they're almost always overdone in my opinion. I feel like this guitar would've faired better without the Slash connection, and as you said, done up as a '59.
Agree! Hate flame tops on the single-cut style guitars. PRS too have a tendency to just way over-do it for my liking. Always kind of liked the look of the 58s due the plain tops.
It would never cross my mind to purchase a guitar with someone else’s signature on it, especially when most of these ‘signature’ guitars aren’t even spec’d to anything the celebrity guitarist even plays.
Let uncle Luis from Brazil disappoint you: that is not Brazilian Rosewood. The true Brazilian Rosewood refers to a Tree called Jacarandá da Bahia and this tree is not alowed to be cut or selled anymore (unless gibson still has a stash of this wood for over 20 years wich i doubt) the modern "Brazillian Rosewood" labeled by gibson is just another species of Jacarandá. But how do i know this? Because i know the guy who runs the company that supplies Gibson with south american woods and i was also the guy that leaked To Austin the Slash's "Bolivian dream" back in the day. So yes. This guitar is overpriced asvertising a wood that is not truly Brazilian Rosewood.
I'm not one to defend Gibson but you do know they have lawyers and this is America where anyone WILL sue if they feel they've been cheated or wronged. Martin still lets you spec Brazilian backs on custom orders. There is still A LOT of Brazilian rosewood out there from back before it was banned for import, that's why it was banned. people were cutting that stuff down like crazy. There are a lot of suppliers in the US that have old stock and will sell it to you for exorbitant prices....that I'm sure the like of Gibson can afford when they feel like it.
@@hkguitar1984 yes it would have. (Even for other species of Jacarandá). But i not quite sure how Gibson Pull this of. But why i believe it is not a Truly Brazilian board is this: Places which still has Jacarandá Da Bahia trees are mostly national parks overly protected by the government. If you have a Jacarandá tree on your property you can't even think about constructing anything near those trees. It is just a federal and ambiental crime. So Selling a TRUE Brazilian Rosewood is impossible. What i know for a fact is that they can sell another type of woods as Brazilian rosewood that are not endangered even some types of Pau ferro are sold as Brazilian Rosewood and Bolivian rosewood. And those not require any kind of Cites certificate. To be honest though? It does jot truly matter. Every kind of south american Rosewood are so close to one another and have so much similarities that they play and sound the same dispite of not being the real deal. But bumping the price of a guitar that it has a rosewood from south america in over 6k just because it is not worth it.
@@muinarc0 yes. You are completely right. I'm not saying that Gibson is scamming people or lying to them. They are not what i said was: today's "Brazilian Rosewood" is not the same as the Brazilian rosewood sold in the 40's to the 70's for example because they are not the same species. Today Brazilian Rosewood refers more to a Family of Trees instead of a single Tree get it? Gibson is not on the wrong here.
And also an addendum: i'm not sure, but i think that some places in California and Florida that Grows some species of Brazilian Rosewood to sell to guitars and fine funirture manufacturers but i'm not 100%sure on that one.
They are Les Paul's. All I'm saying is they shouldn't charge extra money just because his autograph is on there. I'm sure everybody agrees with that. Except maybe trogly
@@stringlocker Well that might be true for guitars like the one in the video. But i completely disagree with that statement if you look at all those Slash signatures that have been available since the 90s.
What part of my statement do you disagree with. Picking the number 10 was just random. I have no idea how many signature models there are and I don't care other than that what else do you disagree with
It's definitely subjective, normally you hit a point of diminishing returns. Any features past that point are usually cosmetic or pretty small. Whether or not those features are worth it, that's up to the buyer (and their wallet).
If you internalize hard enough I'm sure a person could convince themselves it does! Guitars are like people, sometimes there is no rhyme or reason why you like or dislike either. That sure is a lot of money. $13K would buy you a vintage Marshall AND a used R9!
That rosewood looks identical to the rosewood on my Chinese Squier. Rosewood is rosewood, so why seek out specifically Brazilian rosewood? It looks the same, it probably feels the same, sonically doesn't matter because it's a solid body electric, hardness is probably the same too, just harder to ship outside of the US (if at all legal on a modern manufactured guitar)
Honestly when they first came out I used to hate them, but then I started to slowly fall for them (maybe because I'm a huge Slash fan, maybe cause I'm Brazilian). I thought they were ugly, but I've went to see Slash on tour w Myles and Conspirators in the front row and ir looks amazing in person. Even though I love this guitar it would never be worth buying it here in Brazil, we can get custom boutique made Les Paul's here with brazilian rosewood for waaaaaaaaay cheaper down here. I guess the issue with brazilian rosewood is the importation/exportation, even though we can't freely go and use that it's not hard to legally find it here
Total honesty here, having MADE guitars with Brazilian Rosewood fretboards, and even solid Brazilian Rosewood necks: It's over hyped. If that board were Indian Rosewood you'd never notice the difference unless LOOKING at the fingerboard is more important to you than any aspect relating to tone and playability. I do think some woods are better for fingerboards than others, but for the high price and built-in legal issues surround it, I don't bother with BRW. It offers no real benefits. My favorite, however, is definitely unquestionably African Blackwood. Too bad it's also a less common wood and it too is listed in the CITES treaty Appendix II.
The trucker hat is legit, if you look at pics of slash out in public he’s commonly seen with the trucker hat on backwards, the top hat is his stage piece 👍🏻 love your videos, keep ‘em coming
I wish there were more attention drawn to the bridge. What saddles are made of makes a very very big difference in tone . steel versus brass. But from what I can tell they look like they're made of steel coz the top of the saddles looks sharp instead flat like the old 59 brass saddles .
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Thinking on failed guitar models, purhaps you would do a video on the 2008 PRS McCarty ll or the Fender Stratocaster Dlx Plus.
Should be around $800
This guitar is in crappy condition! It looks like its been laying on the beach somewhere. All the hardware is rusty, and the top is completely unremarkable its an ugly piece of wood, with an ugly color sunburst.
i don t think Gibson really sold that many lately in their shop, Maybe they just faked the numbers to rise the interest in the instrument.
And you payed $10.000 for this one- is that correct 🧐?
I am a brazilian and I have to say that the name is correct. Only in a dream a brazilian would be able to buy one of those.
MANO DO CEU AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHS
To be fair tho it is almost impossible just to buy a Classic or even a studio with the current situation.
You said Brazilian Would.🙂
I am in the US and even if I had the money, I would not pay that kind of cash, not even a fraction lol
@@masterofreality230 Consider yourself lucky. 13.000 is a "low price" for a STANDARD here. Not a custo shop. A simple les paul standard. This custom shop ones are abput 40.000
This is the perfect specimen of why Gibson needs to resume reasonable pricing for their inventory. It's also a great example of how purchasing a signature instead of just a guitar is a total waste. Slash himself probably told Gibson that they made a boo-boo with this one because of the price.
The pricing is from the Henry J era..Era...all kinds of bad management. A boring guitar with a famous name is not worth 13k...unless you are collecting all the Slash Specials
Not a collector myself, @@cromBumny.
Yeah but you get sunglasses and a trucker hat as well for $13K. Who could spend $13K on this guitar and not feel ripped off.
No. Reasonable price is subjective
There should be a $3,000-YSD cap on all professional-grade electric guitars, @@andy_182. That's my subjective take on what constitutes "reasonable".
That sure looks like #43 on the back of the headstock, not #48.
Definitely #43
For sure… 43 lol oops
LOL, I thought this was the Richard Petty Les Paul Tribute!
He does correct himself later
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Its... a snow cone machine
The funny thing to me is that almost none of Slash's signature models are actually based on actual Les Pauls he's been associated with over the years.
Slash nee Saul
No, the funny thing is the les paul that he recorded destruction on and toured with was not a gibson at all
@@formattable1 To be totally fair, at the time with Gibson at a low ebb he didn't exactly have an abundance of options in that regard. Many people today forget that Slash pretty much brought the Les Paul back from obscurity.
Um what do you think the AFD is? They've redone it repeatedly.
It's meant to the guitar of Slashs dreams, so they broke into his house and woke him up. And asked him what guitar he was dreaming of.
For 13 g's, they could've included a case that actually fits the damn guitar.. It's infuriating to see foam spacers in there. 🤦
So true. How can they put them in a case that doesn’t even fit for that much money. Insulting really
Do the people who spend 13k on them put them anyways out the case? 🤣
Cusom shop guitars come with that foam insert to help protect the neck during shipping. Why they do it, I have no idea.
You have that fucking right.
That’s for shipping geez guys come on
Stunning that they would try a stunt like that. Les Paul standard with a Brazilian board.
Agreed!!!!
they wanted to fool people who belive in tonewood
Its overpriced for sure but its not a les paul standard, in the modern sense, its a signature model r8 with a brazilian board. I think an r8 new is 5k, slap on 2k artist premium and whatever they want for the fretboard…. Limited run r9s with brazilian go for like 15k. I think its stupid, new brazilian rosewood isnt in any way meaningfully better than anything else
@@justinguitarcia y is it overpriced
@@andy_182 subjectively i think its overpriced: as mentioned its essentially an r8 with a brazilian board which is worth half the asking, market imo. An artist premium intrinsically makes something overpriced,You agree to overpay for the artist representation. Its also objectively overpriced via the market that didnt buy them, thats why gibson was left with so many. Its just math
A belt buckle with a high end guitar? That must be to help you relic the back.
Does seem a bit ironic, doesn't it? "Yeah, thanks for spending $12K on our plain-Jane one of a gozillion Slash guitars, but this one has banned wood, now here's a tool to make it worthless!" Meh!
You can buy a highly flamed PRS with a Braz board for $3k. Gibson was/is nuts.
PRS is going to kill Fender and Gibson
In time. They are expensive guitars but good lord….The unbelievable guitar you’d get for 13k from a Private Stock PRS…
Not to mention them knocking it outside of the park with their silver sky.
@@liamwagner9160 Na Fender and Gibson will always be around as they have their loyal following and the history behind them. Fender still sells more guitars that anyone I believe.
@@liamwagner9160Leo Fender sold Fender. He owns Has music man now and G & L Legacy. I don’t think the Silver Sky PRS holds a candle to a standard American strat. PRS isn’t all that either .. If anything Yamaha is the future.. but it’s still is fender and Gibson.
yeah, but then you have a PRS and not a Gibson. I want a Gibson and not some lawyers guitar. And i am not alone with that opinion, thats also the reason why PRS will not dethrone Fender and Gibson. Guitarists are stubborn and irrational so Gibson can charge those prices. The price for the one in the video is nuts tho...
Build your own it's not that hard 500 bucks will build you a high quality guitar
I sure as hell wouldn't pay an extra nine thousand dollars for a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard 😵💫🙄 Even if it was Korina wood AND Brazilian Rosewood, plus his signature...pass. Some dreamer on Reverb has one listed for $22,900. Can't wait to see what the Trogmeister lists his for. 😬
$11.5k
@@Smart-Alex 11.5K....what? If you're talking his listing price, I'm betting it will be 19K - 22K
Unfortunately there are too many buorgeois, accomodated class in our society with plenty of €€
90% of the fools/collectors that buy these are like degenerate gamblers rolling the dice. Oh yeah, most can't even play guitar. Who da hell would spend 10+k for a guitar? What, to play it in your basement? haha An actual guitar player could buy a great Les Paul, tele and a strat, nice amp and effects for the price of this one stupid slash LP.
@@johnsmith-ug5tp He sounds like he wants his personal collection of guitars to be the centerpiece of some museum.
Maybe at one point they'll realize that a bazillion Slash models aren't what players want. They are so stubborn with they boomerish stuff that there's no wonder why these didn't sell. Nothing special, overpriced, for collectors only, MEH
"Boomerish"? I dont know any boomers that were into GnR, they are a GenX fanbased originally. They came in late to the 80s Era as well. I agree about the rest of your comment though.
I’d buy a left handed one if they made them
Over rated for sure slash
At 1:59, that is a 3 making it #43, not #48, so it's worth more than what you thought! Great review, Austin
to be fair, it wasn't unsellable, they just asked a ridiculous amount for it. And then they still got more for it a few years later than they probably should have. So they still won, it sure didn't cost anywhere near $10,000 to make this.
The new management especially won as it was a sunk cost on their books from the previous administration. Selling them for anything is like found money to them.
It does not cost anywhere near 1K to make it lol
" they just asked a ridiculous amount for it" that's any Gibson guitar
It didnt cost $500 to make it. Probably less. Gibson still could make 59 Les Pauls exactly like they used to and sell them as their everyday Les Paul at bargain prices. What? They lost the instructions? No. They make them as some kind of extraodinary feat of guitar building and sell them at 5 figures. And put out an inferior product as their everyday model. Either make the guitar youre known for or go away. When will people learn that Gibson is into ripping off their customers with lies? 1959? They cant make a 60 year old design?? Bullshit. Fuck Gibson. Too many way better choices for way less dough. You buy a new Gibson youre a sap.
@@jcripp7974 IDK about that. There is a fair amount of parts and labor that go into an all mahogany, carved (and often quilted) top, set-neck guitar. Les Pauls have always been expensive and sold as "top of the line" pro grade instruments.
Also, since the latest product line revamp, the standard LP's have gotten much better IMHO.
Brazilian board was a fairly common feature on PRS guitars to like 2009 (Artist Package, some limited runs). I own a 2007 PRS McCarty with Brazilian board and paid about $3000 new for it. Even adjusted for inflation, that one was massively cheaper than this.
@@ToTheMaxGaming1 In 1967, the Brazilian government outlawed the export of Brazilian rosewood logs and in 1992 the newly formed CITES convention declared Brazilian rosewood a threatened species. As a result, most nations throughout the world declared it illegal to harvest, export or import any Brazilian rosewood (including products produced from Brazilian rosewood) harvested after 1992. In 2008 the United States Congress expanded the Lacey Act to include wood products and required chain of custody for every step of ownership of Brazilian rosewood to insure compliance with U.S.A. and international regulations. Thus, prices soared and when manufacturers current stock on hand ran out…
@@ToTheMaxGaming1 nope. I didn’t. Sure Gibson’s cost more, nothing to see here. You pointed out your 2007 for 3k. That was prior to the 2009 expansion of the Lacey Act. What BR cost in 2007, is irrelevant. Absolutely Gibson prices are crazy…But legal BR is not inexpensive, or easy to come by after 2010, as you claimed. Not legally.
@@ToTheMaxGaming1 okay Puddin’
@@ToTheMaxGaming1 I read it the first time. Was right then…Here’s a tip, understand what you write. “Common”, is a common word. Look it up. Irrelevant is a little more difficult, but you can do it, Puddin. I know you can.
@@jlsage4059 Somebody just needs to smuggle rosewood to America and grow them here, fuck the brazilian government and cites
Being partially made of Brazilian Rosewood made me think of CITES Regulations. But, I found this: "As of 2019, CITES regulations were lifted regarding rosewood instruments. Meaning that if you travel, buy, sell, or trade rosewood-made guitars, no longer are you required to have an article 10 permit. You can even move freely with guitars made of rosewood and exceed the previous weight limit without a permit."
That doesn’t apply to Brazilian rosewood though. That is still restricted
@@Trog Bummer. So, does that mean if you travel internationally with a Brazilian Rosewood guitar purchased in the US, and you "don't" have the appropriate paperwork, your guitar could be seized/impounded?
Yup. That’s what it means. U would likely have a few days to travel, come back and gather the paper to get the guitar back from customs.
so if i bring my guitar to customs they can identify the species of my guitars wood?
@@danielpecore8722 Right? How would they know unless you told them?
Great playing demo this time. My favorite Trogly playing demo was definitely with the Adam Jones Silverburst. That was a good one. You could tell he really put some work into it.
Yes, good chops in this demo, helped by a good amp tone :)
Dont really understand where the 13k comes from. Spec wise its like a normal r8 with a vintage sunburst finish.
I love GNR and I'm a fan of Slash. I do feel that there is a shameless amount of Slash-related gear out there, and maybe there's an exhaustion factor dragging down sales (in addition to the crazy high price). I really do like the look of this guitar though.
Now they sell Slash Firebirds for about 17K
It is a beautiful axe 🎸🙌🏻🤘🏼🤘🏼
Slash is pretty much all Gibson has and they are going to milk him as much as possible.
@@Yeagerbomb77 I agree that was a money grab and a shitty one at that 💯🤘🏼🤘🏼
NOT EVERY Les Paul needs to have a flame top. BTW , I bought a Slash 2022 this year and it has one of the most unique tops around and I paid the same as I did for my 60s Standard 2021. It is simply a killer guitar.
How do you think the two compare? I would guess that the 60s has a slimmer neck.
@@thenameless3271 mainly the neck is the biggest difference. Slimmer on the 60s. Love both. Slash Gibson pups are just incredible sounding , it's a rock and roll machine! the 60s stock pups are more mellow but hella sustain. Both are flawless straight from Gibson.
Nice!
No they don't, but for 13k it better be amazing
I bought a 60s bourbon burst that is more flamed than the AAA bursts I see advertised on Sweetwater/MF. I have to wonder if someone in Nashville made a mistake
Those custom buckers sound fantastic! 99% of the old 70’s T Tops. I appreciate seeing less tooling marks on the fret board as well. To bad you have to pay Gibson a small fortune to get that.
I have an R8 with custom buckers. They are awesome.
Gibson are selling ill;egal Guitars. I live in the UK, i couldn't buy one. Brazillian RW is CITES legislated, to import or export this wood or even sell it is highly illegal. I'm sure Gibson have done their homework though or have a Palm they can grease to get what they want. They don't even fit the case's they come in, it's wadded out, bad, bad, $13,000.00 woowee!
Personally, one of my favorite guitars I own is my epiphone slash Les Paul. Only 1 volume and 1 tone pot, and it actually has, Seymour Duncan's in it. Paid 250 for it, and the sustain out of it is absolutely insane. It carries a note forever. No way would I pay 13k for this one. It is nice lookin, but definitely not worth 13k
They all sound the same anyway
I could never afford to pay $13,000 for a guitar or ever justify this purchase, it just seems ridiculously overpriced, and for the price it’s appallingly badly made , not what you would expect from a $13,000 guitar!
I've got one of those Epiphone Slash Les Pauls, too, and I agree, they are great guitars, and they do the job just as well as the 13 grand Gibson model. If I were ever to become famous enough to rate a signature guitar, I would ask that Epiphone builds it, so that my fans can actually afford to buy one.
@@andy_182 no they don't. I have 9 guitars all with different pick ups in them and they all don't sound the same. Each one has a different sound to them. Trust me.
@@andyginterblues2961 they truly are awesome. I've bought 2 guitars in my life brand new. The slash one and my Joe bonamassa epiphone 58 black beauty. All my other's are used and done up to what I like. Except for my epiphone SG custom prophecy. That has the zakk wylde pickups in it. But all my other epiphones have all different pick ups. One of mine has the dime bag Darryl ones that the bridge pick up has that hot rail look to it. Fuckin love the sound of that.
The Slash thing is starting to be ridiculous. Signature guitars i never even saw him pictured with much less the model being synonymous with him. I don’t understand the marketing at all from either. Gibson looks fooling putting out a Slash double neck while Page, Felder and Lifeson are still alive. And Slash comes off as the biggest carpetbagger in history. And let’s cut the shit he’s an ok player that gets propelled up based on his image. Now he’s an ok player starting to look like a money grub. Suddenly ok starts to become shit
Nahh .. i think it's OK because Gibson owed him so much - remember he single handedly carrying Gibson flag while everybody play with sharp pointy headstock guitars back in 80's. Nobody touched Gibson back then. If you were rock guitarist usually you got Ibanez or Jackson or even BC Rich. Seem like, in 80's , rockstars images allign with sharp pointy headstock guitar.
More than an ok player. Snakepit velvet etc. of course it’s someone who isn’t on his level talking shit.
Yes, but it can't be understated just how much he did to bring the Les Paul back into the spotlight in the mid 80's. (and frankly, Gibson isn't exactly getting their guitars into a lot of hot young acts these days, so they return to the well they know).
@@Tim85-y2q I can not imagine why young starving artist are not lining up to pay $3k for crappy qc and a sub par instrument, I am baffled lol I own a lower end Les Paul, they are an American icon, I would like them to do better.
@@masterofreality230 Sure, but I think a lot of it is more to do with interest than anything else. If musicians in hot, up and coming acts wanted to play Les Pauls, Gibson could surely find a way to find a way to get those guitars into their hands and onto their stages. Look at all the young artists Fender has scooped up over a variety of genres that are popular with the youth. That's what gets guitars seen and drives sales, like it or not. Gibson is increasingly becoming a brand exclusively for middle aged blues rock fans and retro hard rock acts, and that's not going to cut it.
I'll buy it...er...but not for 13k, I've got $500 laying around, we good?
Nice! I'd play that guitar out...plain top R8, Custom buckers and Brazilian board. Hell Yeah!
Wow Trogly! Playing sounding better than usual. Great riffs 👍 thank you for the great demo!
Yeah, someone's been practicing!
The Trogster!
So, I am not the target market for this (love Slash, but am not a $15k guitar buyer), but I will say it definitely sounded iconic in all the right ways and it looked like you were having a lot of fun playing it . . .
DOES IT ALWAYS INCLUDE THE LINT, ON THE LOW E?
I like that first lick you played. Sounded good enough to figure it out. I think you are getting better at these demos, keep it up!
Dude, that first lick was Nighttrain by Guns N' Roses.
I recently bought the Epi Slash "Appetite for Destruction" Les Paul Special ll" from an ad on my local FB Marketplace, used. I scored the guitar, a Fender Mustang ll Vll (solid state) amp. gig bag, strap, a stack of guitar instruction books, all for $300. The seller had bought the entire setup for her teenage son, who decided that he wasn't all that interested in guitar. So mom bought the kid a keyboard, and reported that he took right off, and is now a natural at keys. I told her that I might hire him to play in my band someday! The Epi has some of the same appointments as this Gibby version, however the top of the Epi is flat, and finished in a yellow, "Tiger Maple" look. The pickups on my Epi version are awesome, though, it has become the guitar that's the most played in my entire collection.
I really like the looks of this model, always have. Very understated with the plain top, black knobs and uncovered pickups.
I wouldn't pay $13k for an understated guitar, though, unless it played so well I could justify the price.
Yeah it looks great. Looks just like a Les Paul classic you could buy for $1.5k lmao
@@SubxZeroGamer Except it’s not a Classic. It’s an R8.
@@ryanfulldark2775 Same uncovered pickup and plain top look though. For 1/10th the price haha
Looks like a standard cheap finish to me.
It's ridiculous they would put a price tag like 13,000 on such a plain Jane with a lousy hat and gas station quality belt buckle. Ridiculous.
The guitar is my perfect idea of a Les Paul. I like active wood of course. But this is really a gorgeous example to me.
Is it worth $13k? Nah. Brazilian Rosewood aside...no guitar is really worth $13 k. I wouldnt touch it for $3K. Anything over a thousand is a waste of money to me. Unfortunately if a run of these through Epiphone were to happen they too would likely exceed that $1k price point making them too expensive for guys like me who love guitars but refuse to overspend for something that sonically is being achieved at $300.
Still....this is a beautiful piece.
I wonder if the aging might have a little to do with the fact they sat unsold and shipped back to Gibson for the last 4 years. Not all of the aging.
Whatever...as plain as you say it is...there is really something special about these as I look at it on my .... Phone...😳
I'm completely with you on the price issue. There is simply no reason to pay thousands for a guitar.
I agree, anything over $1,000 (new) is a waste of money these days. For the same $13k, I could have 26 x $500 guitars and a lot more fun, and wouldn't have flithy pig needing a bath Slash's connection...
My Epiphone LP that I got for $40 will sound just as good as this one with some mods and the right amp. There's no way this guitar is worth 13k
I’m confused about the R8.. is it a bad guitar or something?
13,000 dollars= A nylon nut and a plain old tobacco Les Paul. 150 built. Somebody at Gibson is delusional.
The cheap looking pickups dont help it
In the early 80s when I was still in my 20s, I visited my then-married sister and her husband in New Jersey near Philadelphia. My brother-in-law took me to Philly's Eighth Street Music, where I saw a gorgeous Fender Stratocaster Ultra. My brother-in-law offered to get someone to unlock the display case it was in, but I declined. I had no money, the axe was expensive, and I KNEW I would love it, but also that it would hurt like hell to leave it behind. Since I had no other choice, I didn't TOUCH it.
That's about the way I feel about this GLP. The big difference is that I would almost certainly hate the neck on this axe! My favorite necks are shredder-thin. I have a Schecter C-1 Elite, an Ibanez EX370, an RG220B also from Ibanez and a Jackson JS22 Dinky DKA. All of these axes have thin necks and jumbo frets (extra jumbo frets on the Schecter), 3 of them have a 14-inch cylindrical (traditional) fretboard radius, and the Jackson has a conical (aka compound) radius. These are the kind of necks I like; with hands like mine, I don't enjoy very thick necks. That Slash GLP looks great to me, but I just won't like that neck -- especially well enough to justify paying the price for one.
I'm around your same age.
For years I preferred the slimmer neck profiles.
As I get older my left hand sometimes cramps up a bit from playing.
I found the thicker neck profiles allow my hand to play in a more relaxed position, the larger profile just seems more comfortable for longer playing sessions.
Don't get me wrong, I still have my favorite medium "C" Strat so I can play thumb over top style.
I was just surprised by how the thicker neck helped my playing.
Yeah, I wouldn't have opened the case of that Ultra either (looking out for yourself and side-stepping the potential pain of not taking that Ultra home with you).
Yeah I’m not a huge fan on the luxe just do the burst in the neck definitely agree my hands are small so the 60 Nick profile is much better for me trying to get used to the larger neck though
@@hkguitar1984 I have both neck profiles/ 50's and 60's....you are right about hand being more relaxed position with the thicker neck. The 60s is nice too. I have the best of both worlds.
@@sixslinger9951 Excellent, having both is the way to go.
And aside that CITES thing, you really get nuts when you realize that you can get a very nice slab of rosewood (jacarandá for us down here) with almost every luthier for less than 100usd.
You can purchase a Brazilian fretboard blank for $200, Gibson is charging a HUGE PREMIUM, a $3000 guitar they are charging $10,000 for the fretboard. Gibson is successfully pricing themselves out of the market. Dr.s, Lawyers and super wealthy businessmen that are on tv shows can only buy so many of these guitars for wall art and bragging rights.
Im so glad you covered this guitar, i've always wanted to play one of these, slash was such an inspiration to me starting playing guitar and something like this is d e f i n i t e l y, out of my range!
Amazing review as always!
I got the opportunity to play #97 a few weeks ago at the Gibson Garage. Truly the best sounding guitar I've ever played. Definitely not in my price range, but maybe one day if I win the lottery I'll get one second hand.
For now, I'll just be forever searching for the magic of that guitar but for like a quarter of the price.
@@mrSK83RB0Y94 the slash models in 2021/22 are just as good and I got mine for the same as a normal standard.
for my backplate i have a small space between one corner of the plate and the wood. my tiny flathead fits inside of it, to pry the plate with no issues or cosmetic issues.
These prices are really starting to get out of hand. I fortunately, have been blessed to have amassed just about everything I have ever wanted, music wise (I’ve worked very hard for my money). For the young, up and coming musician, it’s beginning to get impossible to acquire reasonably priced, quality equipment without going terribly in debt. Hell, just cables alone can break you.
Whats the riff at 19:24?
This is the reason i hate gibson.I mean i understand the look is iconic and nothing really sounds like a gibson but the crazy prices for limited editions or even brand new guitars can t be justified. And on a lot of murphy lab models the aging job is so shit compared to fender or other brands. They get a big name like slash or adam jones and they put a crazy price, price wich you could get 8 guitars and get every variation of specs a guitar could have
I bought my Slash '22 for $2700 a couple months ago. Best guitar I have owned in 40 years. Worth every penny!
Do they clear coat over the Signature?
13k and nothing looks cheaper than black open coil pickups with black rings.
I agree
The best Slash LP signature is the first one, tobacco burst finish with the piëzo bridge
7:40 Those foam pieces they put inside the case to make it fit better... would they mess up the nitro finish?
Did you ever document the 2004 Slash custom with a built in piezo pickup? I've only played a handful of his guitars but that one was particularly nice.
It is the only good Slash sig they brought out
That green clump of case fuzz on the bridge gave me a rash.
Well thanks for documenting. But yeah crazy to ask that amount of money. Nothing about it is impressive, not even the brazilian rosewood fretboard
Something like this should not be appreciated. Drip fed desirability to the MAX
The best thing ever is the fact Slash’s original Les Pauls weren’t even real Gibson’s!
I think I realize now why they may have done this guitar this way - if they added a flametop and flamey neck with lots of binding and such it would edge the price up towards $20 grand out of the box retail and it may have just been taking an already limited production item and making it even more limited as some guys might consider a 10 grand guitar but a 20 grand might be just too much. But yeah, the tones are spot on.
"I think I realize now why they may have done this guitar this way"
Because they know guitar players are stupid and buy guitars for the label alone so they saw no need to waste money on figured maple tops?
I'll be honest. This looks like one they used to have in the Sears catalog. 7
Yeah, early '70s Montgomery Wards Burst!
I am a Strat/SG man, but this is a nice looking geetir! I like it! 🤘🍻🤪⚡
I like the plan top burst but I’m not paying $13,000 for a guitar 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Yeah, I don't think there could ever be a guitar worth that price.
Where do they source their current Rosewood from for USA Standards?
Super cool guitar its just beautiful love that color and kinda plain vibe sounds awesome through the Marshall but that's no surprise 👏🤘👍
Does anyone know that riff at 19:42 ?
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These "demo-shop" placements are Gibson's way of admitting that they were over-priced in the first place. It's the only way they could drop the price without losing the faith of the first-time-around buyers.
Gotta make back all that money Henry lost for Gibson..
That green fuzzy on the bridge is driving me crazy!!!!
It's crazy. I was pissed off about having to pay 3 Grand for my Custom Shop AFD when they were brought out just over 10 yrs ago but now, when I look at the cost of newer CS built Gibsons I'm like 'wow, mine was pretty cheap in comparison'. I think the prices are mental & I'd never buy one now but if people are prepared to pay for them then you can't really blame Gibson for doing it.
I don't necessarily think 3 grand is out of line for a truly pro grade instrument (though is out of my price range), but it's debatable whether most Gibsons qualify. You can get any number of great boutique builders to make you a truly custom instrument for that price range.
@@Tim85-y2q it is for a guitar that is notorious for easy headstock breaks. Sorry, but the qc out of Gibson is horrible now. Not worth their prices when there are other companies selling Les Paul styled guitars for same quality at substantially lower prices.
@@klonklone7787 Hence why I said "it's debatable whether Gibsons qualify". Personally, I do think the QC and range of offerings has improved at least somewhat under the new management though. If I was able to and going to spend that kind of money on a guitar I would get something else, but I do think that kind of price point has a place IF the quality is there.
You got a Custom Shop Gibson for 3K? Must have found a deal lol I dont know how Gibson survives these days.
@@klonklone7787 For the prices they charge, you should be able to use the guitar as a weapon and it not lose tune lol
As of July 2022, there’s still one for sale at the garage in Nash
Wooo-Whooo
NGD for me!
My Wife surprised me again!
Good evening Brother HK.
@@CatBlackGuitars About a year ago I was struggling with finger picking on my Jumbo Martin.
At that time I'd mentioned that a smaller Parlor guitar would better suit this type of playing.
All on her own my Wife picked out a little Fender acoustic Parlor guitar for me.
We live near Elderly's music in Lansing MI., so she had our Son go down there and pick out the best player.
They all surprised me this morning with it!
I love the small size while sitting around while relaxing and playing.
Fantastic birthday present. Great move by the family.
@@CatBlackGuitars It really is. This is the second guitar she has surprised me with.
I am just amazed that with all my constant blabbering of guitar specs she remembered mahogany back, spruce top! She is a keeper, the guitar is nice too!
@@lettuce_spray Thank You ICK.
So, because some famous person really likes a guitar with some certain specs, they charge people an extra 9000 for it? I never understood that and never will.
2:01, you mean #43 (not #48)
Yep, the COA also say #43 @7:00
How do you clean those, with microfiber cloth?
Watch this be the million dollar guitar in 40 yrs. The only thing is a million dollars will probably fill your gas tank after all this inflation.
When you first pulled it out of the case I thought it might have an ebony fretboard to give some sort of uniqueness to a very plain-looking guitar. The darkness stood out. I was wrong, but the Brazilian does look nice. Overall, my main impression of this guitar is one of boredom - similar to the feeling I get when I see a regular production Les Paul. Actually, a lot of them have more personality than this particular guitar. It did sound great though IMO, but how many of these actually get played? I assume that it’s strictly an investment for 95% of the buyers, but what do I know. Anyone have any insight?
I like it! Flashy posh guitars never really suited me, this one is most def my style.
Do plek'd frets make a difference in ur opinion?
I can't believe someone would pay that for 80 dollars worth of wood and a couple hundred TOPS in hardware for 13K???? Unreal
I could see 1300
True Brazilian rosewood trees have been illegal to cut down for a few decades now. What little amount each manufacturer has left on hand is it. Once they run out, it's gone. Forever. So it is priced with that in mind.
@@Justin.Franks only in theory. They are still harvested and cut down all over
i am pretty certain that those pickups aint slash's signature series, because my friend owns an Anastasia les paul aka Gibson Les Paul Slash Standard AA and we opened the pickups and on the back both of the pickups they do had the icon similar to your wristband/hat
I love that fretboard.
The problem is they are selling basically standards with an up-charge for a signature. Does Slash even play those new Gibson pickups they are putting in there, instead of the Duncan’s?
When is your giant Slash review happening?
Back in 2018 you could get an R8 with a really nice flamed top for around $3k.
Alnico three pickup magnets? Lame...
there is sub 7.5 lbs unchambered reissues as well, never understood using brazilian rosewood and still removing wood to put the inlays
Honestly I just hate flame tops, they're almost always overdone in my opinion.
I feel like this guitar would've faired better without the Slash connection, and as you said, done up as a '59.
I agree, there has to be just as much of a market for a Brazilian fingerboard Les Paul that doesn't have a Slash connection.
I would take 1 nicely ringed plain top over 2 flame/quilt tops any day.
Agreed
Agree! Hate flame tops on the single-cut style guitars. PRS too have a tendency to just way over-do it for my liking. Always kind of liked the look of the 58s due the plain tops.
The plain tops just kind of scream "workhorse" or "serious business". All cool in their own way.
so how does it sound ?
Nice guitar, but I can't see spending THAT kind of money on THAT!
It would never cross my mind to purchase a guitar with someone else’s signature on it, especially when most of these ‘signature’ guitars aren’t even spec’d to anything the celebrity guitarist even plays.
Let uncle Luis from Brazil disappoint you: that is not Brazilian Rosewood.
The true Brazilian Rosewood refers to a Tree called Jacarandá da Bahia and this tree is not alowed to be cut or selled anymore (unless gibson still has a stash of this wood for over 20 years wich i doubt) the modern "Brazillian Rosewood" labeled by gibson is just another species of Jacarandá.
But how do i know this? Because i know the guy who runs the company that supplies Gibson with south american woods and i was also the guy that leaked To Austin the Slash's "Bolivian dream" back in the day.
So yes. This guitar is overpriced asvertising a wood that is not truly Brazilian Rosewood.
Wouldn't this guitar require some form of CITES Certification or Exemption?
I'm not one to defend Gibson but you do know they have lawyers and this is America where anyone WILL sue if they feel they've been cheated or wronged. Martin still lets you spec Brazilian backs on custom orders. There is still A LOT of Brazilian rosewood out there from back before it was banned for import, that's why it was banned. people were cutting that stuff down like crazy. There are a lot of suppliers in the US that have old stock and will sell it to you for exorbitant prices....that I'm sure the like of Gibson can afford when they feel like it.
@@hkguitar1984 yes it would have. (Even for other species of Jacarandá). But i not quite sure how Gibson Pull this of.
But why i believe it is not a Truly Brazilian board is this: Places which still has Jacarandá Da Bahia trees are mostly national parks overly protected by the government. If you have a Jacarandá tree on your property you can't even think about constructing anything near those trees. It is just a federal and ambiental crime. So Selling a TRUE Brazilian Rosewood is impossible. What i know for a fact is that they can sell another type of woods as Brazilian rosewood that are not endangered even some types of Pau ferro are sold as Brazilian Rosewood and Bolivian rosewood. And those not require any kind of Cites certificate.
To be honest though? It does jot truly matter. Every kind of south american Rosewood are so close to one another and have so much similarities that they play and sound the same dispite of not being the real deal. But bumping the price of a guitar that it has a rosewood from south america in over 6k just because it is not worth it.
@@muinarc0 yes. You are completely right. I'm not saying that Gibson is scamming people or lying to them. They are not what i said was: today's "Brazilian Rosewood" is not the same as the Brazilian rosewood sold in the 40's to the 70's for example because they are not the same species. Today Brazilian Rosewood refers more to a Family of Trees instead of a single Tree get it? Gibson is not on the wrong here.
And also an addendum: i'm not sure, but i think that some places in California and Florida that Grows some species of Brazilian Rosewood to sell to guitars and fine funirture manufacturers but i'm not 100%sure on that one.
What are those three grey things in the lower bout at the far right inside the case?
After 10 signature models it gets pretty boring. Personally I don't care if I ever see another slash guitar.
10? I am sure there are way more Slash models. And I owned 4 of them :D
They are Les Paul's. All I'm saying is they shouldn't charge extra money just because his autograph is on there. I'm sure everybody agrees with that. Except maybe trogly
I will never understand why people pay that much more for a different paint job. Underneath it is the same guitar basically.
@@stringlocker Well that might be true for guitars like the one in the video. But i completely disagree with that statement if you look at all those Slash signatures that have been available since the 90s.
What part of my statement do you disagree with. Picking the number 10 was just random. I have no idea how many signature models there are and I don't care other than that what else do you disagree with
Anyone else notice that it says #43 on the headstock, not #48?
Does an overpriced guitar play better than a reasonably priced guitar of the same model?
Probably not
Apparently…with this guitar, you just pick it up and you can automatically play the entire GnR catalog…it’s amazing 😳
It's definitely subjective, normally you hit a point of diminishing returns. Any features past that point are usually cosmetic or pretty small. Whether or not those features are worth it, that's up to the buyer (and their wallet).
If you internalize hard enough I'm sure a person could convince themselves it does!
Guitars are like people, sometimes there is no rhyme or reason why you like or dislike either.
That sure is a lot of money. $13K would buy you a vintage Marshall AND a used R9!
No.....Sarge......put those pickups in a Harley Benton.....same tonal quality
Not bad if you get a good deal, right? Change the knobs and poker chip, put some wear or have it refinished altogether maybe
Great sounding guitar, good looking too. But not $13K worth.
That rosewood looks identical to the rosewood on my Chinese Squier. Rosewood is rosewood, so why seek out specifically Brazilian rosewood? It looks the same, it probably feels the same, sonically doesn't matter because it's a solid body electric, hardness is probably the same too, just harder to ship outside of the US (if at all legal on a modern manufactured guitar)
Honestly when they first came out I used to hate them, but then I started to slowly fall for them (maybe because I'm a huge Slash fan, maybe cause I'm Brazilian). I thought they were ugly, but I've went to see Slash on tour w Myles and Conspirators in the front row and ir looks amazing in person. Even though I love this guitar it would never be worth buying it here in Brazil, we can get custom boutique made Les Paul's here with brazilian rosewood for waaaaaaaaay cheaper down here. I guess the issue with brazilian rosewood is the importation/exportation, even though we can't freely go and use that it's not hard to legally find it here
Alias se vc quer uma puta guitarra no estilo LP e tiver uns 6 conto pra pagar, ve a W custom guitars. As guitarras que eles fazem são INCRIVEIS
Total honesty here, having MADE guitars with Brazilian Rosewood fretboards, and even solid Brazilian Rosewood necks: It's over hyped. If that board were Indian Rosewood you'd never notice the difference unless LOOKING at the fingerboard is more important to you than any aspect relating to tone and playability. I do think some woods are better for fingerboards than others, but for the high price and built-in legal issues surround it, I don't bother with BRW. It offers no real benefits. My favorite, however, is definitely unquestionably African Blackwood. Too bad it's also a less common wood and it too is listed in the CITES treaty Appendix II.
The trucker hat is legit, if you look at pics of slash out in public he’s commonly seen with the trucker hat on backwards, the top hat is his stage piece 👍🏻 love your videos, keep ‘em coming
I wish there were more attention drawn to the bridge. What saddles are made of makes a very very big difference in tone . steel versus brass. But from what I can tell they look like they're made of steel coz the top of the saddles looks sharp instead flat like the old 59 brass saddles .
It sounds beautiful, but can’t see paying that price for it.
Awesome《☆》It's definitely got some good LesPaul tones👍✔I prefer Gibson pickups but Slash supposedly uses Seymour Duncan🖖😎🏈
They put SLASH on any guitar and the price then goes up like at least 30%. Same guitar. The end.
So what's the difference between the slash models just the paint.
What years did Gibson start putting circuit boards etc in LPs?
i Always though this was a great guitar the Problem was the crazy price
What does slash have to do with Brazil