You Didn’t Know THIS about Spray Metallic Paint
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2023
- Are you struggling from Paint Stripes in your Metallic Paint Jobs? In this episode we paired with Team Luma III as we find out the perfect tips you'll need while using their Exodus Spray Guns to lay down a beautiful streakless finish that will even impress your wife! Hit the play button to get the learning started!
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Thank you for always watching and believing in me !
Hey Brian, don't over think it- it's only youtube 🥰
What brand of couplers you use or there milton
Thank you for your time and information you are sharing i wish in 1 year I will be ready to paint my own car at home.
Great work!
Another excellent refinish and lots of good tips, thanks Brian.
Milton V fittings are massive. I've been using them for several years and they make a difference in everything air related (not just painting).
Awesome job sir. Wouldn’t expect anything less than that from you. Guns look well built. Good solid pattern as well.
I'm retired now, but I'll still check in with you, just to make sure you're not preaching any mistakes, LOL. FYI, a thing I used to do for making sure my overlap was 75 to 85% was to count my strokes. I counted yours on the left side of the bonnet and you were right at 21 for the half. The fender I couldn't count, but the LFD was right at 20-21 strokes. For that size vehicle, and in most cases these days, that looked like an average size SUV, the number of strokes was spot on. You're the man Brian, and I just want you to know, B4 retiring I spent the last year recommending your You Tube channel to literally dozens of Ohio painters and wanna be painters. Keep up the good work, I'd have you as my wing man any day.
Fantastic as always- I'm in the DIY price bracket but great to see the master at work with any gun
Very good job, me and my dad just got doing blending KAD grey metalic for the first time painting and it didn't turn out so good but we finished it. We now appreciate car painters and how hard it is especially metalic paint
Brian thank you for all the tips. I'm a beginner, and I like the way you always have videos for guys like me. Subscriber for life!!
this is crazy timing because i just found out about these guns and was messaging them with a bunch of questions. this is awesome timing
Man I love it , one day I’ll have guns like that for my little project. Thanks to you and your videos my project is coming out nicely. Thanks Brian 💪🏼
I started a shop recently and your videos are help a lot thanks !!
Always good content
Great job Brian, i know you don't usually like to walk the whole side.. but you look a confident Jon Kosmoski and the job came out beautiful! This spray gun setup looks really nice brother! 👏👏👏😊
Great lesson as always.
Sensational content. ☺
Brian, Thanks so much for putting out these videos. I've been watching a ton of your videos in preperation to spray my motorcycle. As a total beginner I've learned a ton of valuable information and techniques . One thing I would love to see is some videos on painting smaller more intricate parts. Especially a Harley Davidson inner fairing. I've been struggling a lot with this project trying to get paint into all the tight corners and gauge bezels. Can't find any good videos out there.
Thanks
John
Very informative, thanks Brian.
thanks for the videos man, really helps a lot.
thanks
omg, thanks for sharing the HVLP fittings. I'm going to order them now. Been trying to get better spray patterns with my HVLP gun.
I changed my complete air system to 1/2” ID separator , filter and hose then use 3/8 high flow couplings at the gun made a huge difference!
Great Job Bro!!
Fantastic video. I have a project I want to attempt and your instruction is a great help! Thanks
You can do it!
Timing is impeccable. Painting my Mrs Hyundai this weekend, it’s a gun metal grey metallic
Hey how did you do
Im planning on painting my vehicle ( shadow grey metallic) but i have never painted a car.
Cool hint about covering the paint reservoir... maybe a person could use an old sock, on a smaller gun, but great tip... I'm just a tiddler, but like to learn as much as possible before "committing" to paint on metal...and, now starting my first real metallic job on my car, with even 2k clear coat!
cool… the gun layed really nice. im wondering how it goes head to head with dv1 base. i hope you make video bout this. thanks
On a slightly different subject. I’m painting my first car, 1984 Ramcharger, I’m following your channel step by step and have really benefited from your videos! My question is two part, where should I buy the primer ( already applied etching) and what type of primer? Next question, where do I find factory paint to match?
Awesome job
Let’s go!!!
Interesting. I'm good w the guns but I can see the light as a helpful tool. I remember back in the day working in a terrible booth where i would shoot metallics with the lights off and the old 3m sun gun. Never tried it but could see the light being helpful to a begginer or novice on white vertical panels where it's easy to get snow blind. Cool vid.
Color looked pretty good with basecoat only, matte/satin finish
Very nice guns. Made by Meiji Japan. I have the Meiji version Finer Core 13. Would love to try it in 1.5. Top notch build quality.
Another great video. Any chance you can provide advice on compressors for the home diy, rather than just gun reviews?
I think we need a video on tips mixing the paint with different ratios that will be nice
My last job was dx blue I ended up with 80% overlap sometimes more or less.and some guns might like more or less pressure and distance practice on a old fender.once you get it down stick with the same technique
Mr. Bryan, good good videos from you as always. I want to ask a question or you can try it on your next video. Can you add a drop of your paint to the clear, and apply it on the painted car?
Hey, nice job on the Acura as always. How did the clear look in the end with the 1.5?
Very good job
Great looking paint job! I still need to get my BMW Z4 painted. Ugh.
awesome video 😊
Nice video. Are you ever making a video on the civic hatch that bodevision worked on?
The difference between Milton "M" and "V" couplings is huge! I switched my whole shop to the "V" (or Hi-Flow) type. The "V" chucks will also accept an "M" coupling if you don't want to change everything at once. They're a little wobbly when you do that, but 90% fine.
Indeed. If you want something a little nicer you can pick up the Prevost fittings, where the coupler is plastic coated so you don't accidentally bang a panel. Don't ruin a job with regular fittings! Air velocity matters!
Looks like the 1.5 tip works well on that gun
Hi Brian, wondering if you can make a video on the color u modify to match the factory paint in the beginning Like what toners you use to tint and adjust.
Yes !
nice guns,love the ligcht.
Thanks!
Hi Brian, brill videos, Quick question, Ive always wondered how you know how a car dissasembles, ie door handles etc, is there some software you use or is it the oe manuals. for info .
Always great content. But where do we garage painters get pro level paint from. All you pros have paint systems from companies like Akzo. I have used Duplicolor Paint shop Lacquer which is not bad, but limited color range. Cheers
Hi Brian quick question...Does mixing some slow reducer into the clear coat to help it flow and lay down smoother ( 5 to 10%) doing so does it damage or ruin the Clearcoat in the long run? Does it shorten the lifetime of that clearcoat?
At 11:36 when the 2 audios came together, I thought I was losing my marbles lmaoo
Thank you for that. I’ll fix that in the RUclipsr editor
Good video how dose the base coat gun you are using compair to the devious you used on the other video painting silver metallic
Great video and work as always.
Where did you get your paint suit? I’m in the market for a new one and that’s pretty sharp! Thank you in advance and keep up the awesome work man.
It’s from lumaiii
can I use a cheap gun to get decent results with a metallic base/clear paint job ? what tip is good for the base and what tip for the clear ? (This is on a complete restoration)
good job sir
Do you ever use inline filter before the gun?
Damn that’s nice
Do you use a filter in the gun with the base metallic?
hello Bryan what is used for Blender in solvent paint? in my case I use ppg solvent paint, thanks
I’ve spent the past few years building a chevelle and it was so so so much welding, metal work, body work, blocking until my hands bleed, and I’m finally like 8 working hours from being ready to paint and I’m scared as hell to mess it up I haven’t painted in years
I want those guns just for the sticker
I'm here 😮
I really want the paint society to hit a million subs ❤ you deserve it Brian and anyone else who may be involved in making it happen behind the scenes
Thanks so much! It’s just me and a patient wife
What's color going to look like at the front bumper area?
I don’t see the spray gun on your Amazon site. I’m guess the clear was your 2nd coat since it was heavy. What volume of clear did you use. ❓❓❓❓
I myself at age 11-13 started helping my neighbors and uncle paint & body work. Now I'm 41 , and always wondered why the metallic pastel color has a weird smell? Especially green bluesh turquoise peach purple and pinkish colors, all pastels. ?
for a pro would you choose the DV1 or this one?
Why did you change your technique with this gun? Is it harder to spray slower?
What reducer would work for cooler like 55?
Another Great video, Brian! I have a question for you. I've got a 2002 F250 and the paint looks ok for the most part, but there are areas where the clear coat is starting to flake off. I would like to repaint it (same color) but as I'm on SS, it's gonna be a FYI home job. What would you do about the clear coat? Can I just sand and blend in the flaked areas, or how far should I go with removing the clear to prepare it. I know the key word is preparation, preparation, preparation, to get a great final finish. But I'm just not sure how far I need to go to make sure that the old paint doesn't cause problems once I get the new paint applied?
You can 180 all the old paint. Then 320 sand. Then 2k surfacer primer and you should be fine to sand that with 400-600 before paint
What is the size your nozzle for mettalic
Hi Brian. you recommend exta slow reducer, how about hardener? Is it extra slow hardener also recommennded?
Me personally I use slow everything.
Do you find the light gets in the way of where you're looking when spraying, or not so much/you get used to it??
Not at all. It’s great
Very nice sir Bryan ❤👍💪, can I order or buy a spray gun I'm from the Philippines 😊
so what were your final thoughts on that 1.5OP tip on the clear
If you told me, it was a 1.5 I wouldn’t even know, functions just like a regular 1.3.
What brand spray gun
A few errors I see, but the end results are very good. Looks like everybody is different :)
- Mixing black into the gun - I would never think that would be allowed, but again, it seems to be working
- Plastic sheet around where you paint. I often get flakes sticking into the paint when I remove them, so it was always paper for me. And not just a 5cm, like that yellow tape, but a lot wider. Or maybe paint sticks to these sheets better? Especially at 18:18, the whole sheet seems to be sticking into the paint. It's dry, but I'm sure it's not that dry the following day. Or you waited days to remove the sheets?
- Starting the base from the bottom - is the colour matching after this? At the Autocolor course, they teach you need to start from the top, and lay down a half coat from a distance at the end, that will bring up the metallic. Especially important with mica and some metallic colours, otherwise it will be flat, and darker.
- Clearcoat air and fluid on max? Eh, how is it not getting orange peel then? Or maybe it's a very good gun.
The plastic is treated not to flake
Paint from the bottom up in this case and finish the blend at the top. Less overspray.
- As long as the pot you add the colour to is all the colour you have for a full coat, it's fine! (If you had to top up the pot with more colour, it'd be hard rematch more black again).
- Good quality plastic has static on one side to stop the paint flaking off all over your job when you unmask. There is a specific side you need to spray. The wrong side will leaves flakes. Being in that booth, he would have baked it and the paint is well and truly dry enough to be touched. Any tape is fine, comes down to preference.
- Everybody has a different preference, as long as you paint your colour match spray out card the same way, you'll get the same result. You can see in person if it's sitting correctly on the panel compared to the blended area.
- Base coat doesn't really have any build so you don't get orange peel from it. With clear, everyone has their own sweet spot. On my DeVilbiss I have my fluid 2.5 turns out and air around 2 bar. It also depends on the speed of the hardener and thinner used and temp in the booth. Get as slow hardener/thinner as possible to give it time to flow, but not run. There's a sweet spot and the peel will be at a minimum.
Hello Brian. i have a question for you. i really struggle with spraying wet on wet primer(filler). I use spectral 3:1 primer which has an option for wet on wet spraying. but when i use it i have a huge orange peel effect with 1.3mm. I wonder what you use , how you mix it and did you sand it or not. Thanks alot , continue with the channel , its really helpful. ! Good DAY.
Reduce it by 10% that should help
@@PaintSociety i put for example 100ml primer 30 hardner and around 15 20ml reducer. Thats the recommendet. And i get huge orange peel. If i put 40 or 50% reducer than it fix. Idk
@@PaintSociety ruclips.net/video/JqpsCzTkREQ/видео.html thats the product
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Can the light be installed on the right side for lefties. Never easy to be left handed🤣
I think the design is for the left side mount. Maybe @lumaiii can chime in
Could be an option in the future
I was just thinking about purchasing this gun for clear, but now I’m a little confused. Seems like you got it all orange peely, isn’t it?
So when you run wide open on fan and color you are moving pretty fast.Yes or no?
Not fast just consistent, watch your material as it lays down
If I spray 5_8" from panel it is dry .I have a habit of trying to put it on wet,using single stage paint. I always get runs and I'm tired of sanding it.always get runs I've tried everything
Dial in your fluid and move faster d
I commented on a previous video about sprayers but didn't see a response. I have a 5 gallon air compressor that does 5scfm@40 psi, or 3.8 scfm@90 psi. Are there good sprayers for that or is that even good enough for paint jobs?
No you’ll need more gallons
What if my gun is not an Hvlp ,would it be a bad thing if I used the Hi Flow fittings?
Yes. Use them
Never heard of this brand. How does thgiw hin compare with comparable spray guns from the IWATA, Sagola, DeVillbiss etc..?? So the optimized pressure version is based on HTE, so can be used with smaller or lower psi compressors?
Performs equal to or better in our opinion. We recommend PSI settings of 18-23🤝
@Lumaiii, Inc - Innovative Refinishing Tools
My question was, is your optimized pressure version run on lower psi like what you can with an HTE gun. 18-23psi are WHAT HVLP guns would run at. HTE typically runs at a much lower psi like 9-12 some even lower. That's why I was asking if your spray guns can work at lower psi.
BTB D I spray both the color coat and clear coat gun at 22 psi. Just as good as any other spray gun you can use
Extra slow reducer....where I live, its usually 70....should I still be using the slow reducer for my metalic basecoat and clear?
Use slow. I chatted about this in the video
What's up with the tape on the cup of the clear coat spray gun?
Ohhhh for sure you didn’t read all the subtitles 😂
Hey brian you should try the a.n.i spray guns
Got one. Need to do a video
@@PaintSociety i love them you should try the f-black
Hey Brian - thought I'd done a good job following good practice but a part of my metallic after clear looks a bit crazed and webbed as though it's broken up a bit and not smooth. Any ideas why? (I know it's difficult not seeing a pic but can't see an email on you home page.) It is winter here in New Zealand so wondered if it may have been too cold - 59 F - and the clear has reacted with the base which was cured and looked fine prior to clear. Thanks if you can help. (2k aerosol primer, 1k aerosol base and 2k aerosol clear.)
You cannot mix 1k and 2k products together that is what caused your problem
@@jamessakimae9655 Uh - yes you can: 1k base is regularly put under 2k clear. Brian here has a video on his channel doing exactly that.
@@christopherbrougham forgive me I read three comment wrong, did the paint wrinkle up?
A great gun, but it's nothing more than a copy of the Japanese Meiji Finer-Core gun .This is a company with a very long tradition I use one of them, perfect atomization and a lot of material savings on the HVLP head.
Regards from Scotland UK
Is this basically the same as the meiji finer core?
It's the exact same thing
Seem expensive for an "affordable" spray gun. But i think if u want the light it may be a good value
It's actually a great spray gun with similar results to 800-900 spray guns. I have all the spray guns that you could compare to.
Dv1 b or exodus ??
Where's the link for the help coupler?
Couldn’t get them to link but google high flow coupler
@@PaintSociety Thank you!
Fk, the gun by itself is 480. With the light it's damn near 900 ain't no little ass light like that worth that much
Very nice job. The audio cut out at 19:51 though.
Yes. I’m handling it now in the post editing
Maybe on your Obama phone
How much sir
Don't run over your hose. Pet peave of mine. Nice job. I want those guns
I was like, SNOOXE? Then i read it backwards and up the right way lol
Hi Brian is something wrong with voice on 19minutes goes mute
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I'm going to have to take your word for it since you shot the video with a potato. But, I can also see how everything would work together in the field.
Man you got more important things to be worried about. Your dad just pulled up drunk and he's going to beat you to your sister's room. You know your dad's motto...... Why go down the street when you can go down the hall? Looks like sloppy seconds for you tonight
My only problem is the charger for the light... it needs to be USB C not mini usb.
Super fast lighting 3.0 cable in the future…😂
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