I had one of these in a car around 10 years ago. Still have it somewhere. It actually gave a nice kick. Nothing outlandish thats going to rival a 12 inch sub box but it definetly complimented a decent sound system without overpowering it. I would buy again.
That sonded amazing! I was looking at a Cerwin but I'm a Pioneer guy and I didn't know Pioneer made one! I'm going Pioneer! I too am not looking for annoying my fellow motorists but to enjoy Pink Floyd in a way most people don't know you can!
I have sense sold the car, but I thought it did great for what it was, they are just hard to find in the US. JBL now makes one also that I bet is really nice.
Thanks John for your video. Good job! 👍👍👍 I plan to install it for two years the same sub and to add some bass to the original audio system. Your review gave me one more reason to reach my goal.
Man you should try the Audio Control LC2i Digital LOC instead of the PAC Brand, it will sound so much better and completely eliminate any distortion. Best LOC out on the market today.
Very good review. Thanks for doing this. Sweet car. I bought a similar spare tire mounted sub earlier this evening. I purchased the Cerwin Vega VPAS12ST. It's supposedly an actual "almost" 12 inch woofer. Yours sounds great though. You must have a good mic. I hope I like the one I purchased, and I did look at the Pioneer as well. Take care. Thumbs up!
It was well worth it to me, really filled in the sound. BUT, if rap if your main genre, this might not be the sub for you. Its not weak, but its not a heavy hitting shake your car kinda sub.
Thank you for doing this video. you answered so many of my questions. My factory sub blew up and I was looking for replacement but with 3 kids, you kinda need the trunk space. You convinced me to give this a try. Can you tell me if you could plug in the remote, set eveything the way you like and remove it?
@TurbochargeMe Hello, today i’am got my sub and yes it works without the remote control. And you can change the frequency range on your radio to adjust the sound.
Does the high low converter needs power? Because i have one with 7 cables, 4 for the speakers, 1 for 12v+, 1 for 12v+ (remote) and 1 for the grounding. Do you have to use them or can you just ignore it?
Why not get a small sealed 8" JL W3 and small Mono amp. Hide the amp under the carpet like you did , use some banana plugs for quick disconnect and when the time comes you need ALL the space again simply unplug the sub. That is why I don't like active subwoofers or mounting amps to the enclosure as I want the ability to quickly remove any sub and have all my space back.
first off big difference in price ...second he said he was looking for full sound this achieves that..i have the jbl 11 inch spare tire sub in my camry and for a daily driver familly car and missing no trunk space or adding much strain at all to the small toyota stock alternator im thrilled with its performance
At 12:50 I mentioned at the end that I ended up running them under the spare tire instead. Originally I thought doing that would have the tire laying on the wire, but there was room.
The sub has high and rca inputs, I could have just split the high outputs to it, but I ran them to a high low rca converter, then from the converter to the subs rca inputs. Look at about 6:50 in the vid I go over it.
@@JohnTrottoCreations Is any different in sound over hi or low input. Should be better RCA over hi-input.. I bought sam model and tomorrow is plan to install in car.
@@mesS794 Ideally RCA are better, but since the sub has boths types of inputs its not really needed. For this application I doubt there is any real difference. If you dont have the high low converter I would just go ahead and use the high level inputs and see what you think.
Hi John, looking in depth to the specs of the device, it seems that it's using 2x 100mm subwoofer rather than a larger one. Any comment on the quality of the output ? does it compare well against a under seat subwoofer ? Clear, muddy, warm, soft,etc ? I was looking at the JVC CW-DRA8. Thanks.
@@JohnTrottoCreations Thanks !! I was just wondering as most youtube and photos seems to show the the subwoofer without floor covering, and I've read review or some discussion where it was mentioned that the owner cut hole, so I was just wonder as to how they disperse the heat generated by the amplifer unit in the subwoofer. Do you find it sufficiently better than the under seat subwoofer ?
Yes the controls are for the gain, or output level of the sub, and what frequency it cuts off at . for example if you set it to 100Hz, only frequencies of 100Hz or lower till be output by the sub.
@Viorel Rotaru Hello, today i’am got my sub and yes it works without the remote control. And you can change the frequency range on your radio to adjust the sound.
Would this work in a vehicle that has all it's tools in a foam tray under the spare tire? Basically I wont be able to flip my spare tire deep side down.
@@JohnTrottoCreations gotchya, I have no room under the seats as well due to seat motor on driver's side and air bag module under passenger side. The chevy sonic is not an easy sub install :-( Only other option I see is a custom box or the kicker vss system which is astronomically over priced!
This sub made a very noticeable audible difference, that was my main reason for installing it. Average human can hear down to about 20 hz. Which is lower than most subs can produce. You can feel the bass from this sub alittle bit, but if you are mainly after the feel, this is not for you.
On some brands of these spare tire subs (JBL & Cerwin Vega) when using the high (speaker) level inputs, the amp in the sub senses the signal and turns on automatically without having to run the blue turn-on wire all the way up to the head unit.
You can probably still use it even without a spare tire as long as you have a space where a spare tire would go. See if there is a threaded hole in the center of your trunk for a spare tire. This should tie in nicely.
Can't really hear it on video. Would you say it was worth the 300, because I am also looking into this sub for rnb/hip hop type of music? I for sure don't want any rattles in the trunk though.
I had a Rocksford Fosgate P300 10 inch sub and it hit hard, was perfect for my bose system, always thought the bose system lost the bass at high to full power but the 10 added the bass right back and it sounded amazing for me, and it was less than 300 plus installation, take up a bit of room but not alot. Also the Pioneer shallow mount subs bang also, cost a bit more cause an amp will be required but positive is it takes up even less room and is a bit louder, or there's a preamp pioneer sub that I really wish i could've put in my car, that is a lot of bang for buck
You're listening to your shitty computer speakers or on your cell phone. How can you tell it sounds bad. I have this in my daughter's car. It won't rattle your car or win SPL competitions but it is a great upgrade for a stock system.
Ricardo Molina te equivocas completamente cuando dices que lo escucho con el celular o el pc. Lo escucho con unos Sennheiser o unos Superlux, o Onkyo de más de 300€, te podría decir más porque tengo más alternativas en auriculares. O con mi equipo de Hifi Yamaha-WHARFEDALE, y si quieres en mi auto con etapa Hertz, procesador Pioneer y altavoces 3 vías Focal!!! Mi oído está entrenado ya que soy amante del audio y la música, y cuando dije que sonaba mal era porque el sonido del micro de la review no transmite realismo, pero no lo decía por el sub. Evidentemente es una gran mejora al audio de stock a veces, por ejemplo en un Outlander no es una mejora ya que ya lleva equipo Rockford-Fosgate y subwoofer de 10 pulgadas.
I had one of these in a car around 10 years ago. Still have it somewhere. It actually gave a nice kick. Nothing outlandish thats going to rival a 12 inch sub box but it definetly complimented a decent sound system without overpowering it. I would buy again.
Well done! A video where you can actually hear a difference. That’s a difficult thing to do and you did it!
Lightning strike me when i hear the voice of Ronnie ,God bless u mate ! 🤘
Finally someone who uses good music for a sound test subscribed and liked R.I.P DIO🤘
I think the sound is much better than underseat subwoofer.
Thanks man! I'm getting ready to install this in my SEAT Ibiza FR here in Italy. Nice choice of music by the way in the video!
Dude, love "the" sweet camera angle. thanks for the video, very informative. i like that you explained your thought process!
I appreciate the fact that Dio was playing. Rock!
Good mic..it picked it up pretty good...if your happy,that's all that matters
That sonded amazing! I was looking at a Cerwin but I'm a Pioneer guy and I didn't know Pioneer made one! I'm going Pioneer! I too am not looking for annoying my fellow motorists but to enjoy Pink Floyd in a way most people don't know you can!
I have sense sold the car, but I thought it did great for what it was, they are just hard to find in the US. JBL now makes one also that I bet is really nice.
Thanks John for your video. Good job! 👍👍👍 I plan to install it for two years the same sub and to add some bass to the original audio system. Your review gave me one more reason to reach my goal.
You didn't really need that converter since the sub has the ability to use hi level input.
In Europe most cars are equipped with this type of subwoofer. It's very common here in Germany.
Do you know if a golf has it? I know many Audis do.
@@Banana-sb1hi sure. They do. Even renault
@@noskyimo319 nice wonder from what year
If you're interested in buying a golf and optioned soundsystem such subwoofer will be included. I won't answer any futher question
Very awesome, good to see one in video... now trying to find one that's not as high up
Man you should try the Audio Control LC2i Digital LOC instead of the PAC Brand, it will sound so much better and completely eliminate any distortion. Best LOC out on the market today.
Great idea plus the lc2 has actu bass
Very good review. Thanks for doing this. Sweet car. I bought a similar spare tire mounted sub earlier this evening. I purchased the Cerwin Vega VPAS12ST. It's supposedly an actual "almost" 12 inch woofer. Yours sounds great though. You must have a good mic. I hope I like the one I purchased, and I did look at the Pioneer as well. Take care. Thumbs up!
How did the CV sound?
Looking to buy the CerwingVega VPAS12ST as well! How was the fitment!?!? Sound!?
Man that sounds good!
i’m buy this🤑😂 i heard the difference, and i’m in love, it would be a perfect fit because my car has a pioneer stereo from the factory😂😂
People from the trunk will have great music
Can't find these anywhere any longer.
Спасибо! Очень полезное видео!
Great review.keep it up👏
the rockville one is pretty good
Do you think you can run the speaker wires through the holes in the tire rim underneath so that when you drop the board, it won't touch the wires?
I wish you would have put on some rap with good bass so we could hear it...is it worth it??? Kinda a cool placement
It was well worth it to me, really filled in the sound. BUT, if rap if your main genre, this might not be the sub for you. Its not weak, but its not a heavy hitting shake your car kinda sub.
Great review
I have the same car, only reason why you connected to factory amp because you have a stock head limit?
John Trotto thinking about getting a spare tire one to save all the space I can, so in my case I’d just have to wire it to my aftermarket head unit
Good review! I was wondering what these sounded like. My wife's equinox has no bass whatsoever, and I was thinking about getting one of these
Nicevid! Thanks for your effort One question is this a spacesaver tyre? What size is the rim?
JBL has something similar to what you have it's called the Bass Pro Hub I think. Five Star Car Stereo in Florida sells it.
Just make sure you don't put anything that would rattle in the boot (trunk) :-)
I would have removed the bottom of the back seats and put the subs there. Like you said no body with can sit back there.
Thumbs up for JORN!
Thank you for doing this video. you answered so many of my questions. My factory sub blew up and I was looking for replacement but with 3 kids, you kinda need the trunk space. You convinced me to give this a try. Can you tell me if you could plug in the remote, set eveything the way you like and remove it?
@@JohnTrottoCreations, that's what I thought, i'll probably just end up doing that. Again awesome review. Thanks for your help!
@TurbochargeMe Hello, today i’am got my sub and yes it works without the remote control. And you can change the frequency range on your radio to adjust the sound.
Does the high low converter needs power? Because i have one with 7 cables, 4 for the speakers, 1 for 12v+, 1 for 12v+ (remote) and 1 for the grounding. Do you have to use them or can you just ignore it?
Why not get a small sealed 8" JL W3 and small Mono amp. Hide the amp under the carpet like you did , use some banana plugs for quick disconnect and when the time comes you need ALL the space again simply unplug the sub. That is why I don't like active subwoofers or mounting amps to the enclosure as I want the ability to quickly remove any sub and have all my space back.
first off big difference in price ...second he said he was looking for full sound this achieves that..i have the jbl 11 inch spare tire sub in my camry and for a daily driver familly car and missing no trunk space or adding much strain at all to the small toyota stock alternator im thrilled with its performance
Why not run the wires through the wheel under it so nothing lays on it?
At 12:50 I mentioned at the end that I ended up running them under the spare tire instead. Originally I thought doing that would have the tire laying on the wire, but there was room.
Did you try to flip the tire? Never mind. I see now the wheel all ready has the deep side up.
Great work! Does this work without a spare tire?
Great video
How do you bring signal to subwoofer?
Didi use hi or low rca input.
The sub has high and rca inputs, I could have just split the high outputs to it, but I ran them to a high low rca converter, then from the converter to the subs rca inputs.
Look at about 6:50 in the vid I go over it.
@@JohnTrottoCreations
Is any different in sound over hi or low input.
Should be better RCA over hi-input..
I bought sam model and tomorrow is plan to install in car.
@@mesS794 Ideally RCA are better, but since the sub has boths types of inputs its not really needed. For this application I doubt there is any real difference.
If you dont have the high low converter I would just go ahead and use the high level inputs and see what you think.
@@JohnTrottoCreations
I installed in my car and I just get what I need in missing sound. I get good bass.
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Hi John, looking in depth to the specs of the device, it seems that it's using 2x 100mm subwoofer rather than a larger one. Any comment on the quality of the output ? does it compare well against a under seat subwoofer ? Clear, muddy, warm, soft,etc ? I was looking at the JVC CW-DRA8. Thanks.
@@JohnTrottoCreations Thanks. I went ahead and ordered one. So let's see.
Nice video bro
super video!!!!
Great !! Will it overheat when you put the factory flooring down ? Would it affect the sound quality once the factory floor is down ?
@@JohnTrottoCreations Thanks !! I was just wondering as most youtube and photos seems to show the the subwoofer without floor covering, and I've read review or some discussion where it was mentioned that the owner cut hole, so I was just wonder as to how they disperse the heat generated by the amplifer unit in the subwoofer. Do you find it sufficiently better than the under seat subwoofer ?
I put the same one today in my car! It sounds nice! I payd like 200 euro! The gain control is for more/less bass?? And how to set frequency control?
Yes the controls are for the gain, or output level of the sub, and what frequency it cuts off at .
for example if you set it to 100Hz, only frequencies of 100Hz or lower till be output by the sub.
@@JohnTrottoCreations And how is better to set frequency?
@@1984JohnDoe its a bit personal preference on how you want it to sound, but somewhere in the middle of that dial works well.
@@JohnTrottoCreations both of them in the middle? And thank you!
@@1984JohnDoe Start with both in the middle, then adjust the top one, the gain, to adjust how much bass volume you want.
I wonder why its not available here in the States??
Hi,
Does the sub function without the remote connected? I am planning to tune the sub and disconnect the remote.
John Trotto I thought I am the only person that stores his car for winter). I will much appreciate your help, cheers.
@Viorel Rotaru Hello, today i’am got my sub and yes it works without the remote control. And you can change the frequency range on your radio to adjust the sound.
Very helpful, thank you!
You can use an LOC with remote wire output
Good review and nice song!. I have a doubt, the trunk placement under the carpet generated vibs all around?
Would this work in a vehicle that has all it's tools in a foam tray under the spare tire? Basically I wont be able to flip my spare tire deep side down.
@@JohnTrottoCreations gotchya, I have no room under the seats as well due to seat motor on driver's side and air bag module under passenger side. The chevy sonic is not an easy sub install :-( Only other option I see is a custom box or the kicker vss system which is astronomically over priced!
Um feeling it is the point. Hearing sub frequencies ?
This sub made a very noticeable audible difference, that was my main reason for installing it. Average human can hear down to about 20 hz. Which is lower than most subs can produce.
You can feel the bass from this sub alittle bit, but if you are mainly after the feel, this is not for you.
I want one.
I'm confused as to why you use the high level to low level converter if the sub had one build in?
Lifes to short for crappy audio its amazing the difference how adding a sub and tunning the whole system can make
On some brands of these spare tire subs (JBL & Cerwin Vega) when using the high (speaker) level inputs, the amp in the sub senses the signal and turns on automatically without having to run the blue turn-on wire all the way up to the head unit.
Haa 💯😭😂
I thought you were supposed to remove the spair tire completely before installing.
Is it a pain in the ass to remove it? If u suddently have to use the spare tire :)
How do you fit in that car???
You think its possible to just use a aftermarket sub?
@@JohnTrottoCreations my bad for the miscommunication I ment AMP lol
I dont have spare tire on my trunk , that would fit anyway ?
You can probably still use it even without a spare tire as long as you have a space where a spare tire would go. See if there is a threaded hole in the center of your trunk for a spare tire. This should tie in nicely.
looks good for an sound quality setup , i.e not for wake up the neighborns.
Your car is Subaru BRZ or TOYOTA?
@@JohnTrottoCreations nice car bro :)
I been a fan of pioneer and it's a shame to cover the amp,
How much setup
Which one better, this or jbl basspro?
@@JohnTrottoCreations thanks for reply. Do u satisfied sound from this subwoofer pioneer?
Has this Ding Power?
Can't really hear it on video. Would you say it was worth the 300, because I am also looking into this sub for rnb/hip hop type of music? I for sure don't want any rattles in the trunk though.
I had a Rocksford Fosgate P300 10 inch sub and it hit hard, was perfect for my bose system, always thought the bose system lost the bass at high to full power but the 10 added the bass right back and it sounded amazing for me, and it was less than 300 plus installation, take up a bit of room but not alot. Also the Pioneer shallow mount subs bang also, cost a bit more cause an amp will be required but positive is it takes up even less room and is a bit louder, or there's a preamp pioneer sub that I really wish i could've put in my car, that is a lot of bang for buck
Ск еле нашел где эт саб играет
buena review
Lot of mid mid/low
Price ??
In Germany itˋs about 180€.
Sorry but you listen to some horrible music
Sorry. But your opinion of my musical selections means nothing to me.
@@JohnTrottoCreations lol 😂 opinion? Sorry Lumpy but that’s a fact!!
Bad sound micro.
You're listening to your shitty computer speakers or on your cell phone. How can you tell it sounds bad. I have this in my daughter's car. It won't rattle your car or win SPL competitions but it is a great upgrade for a stock system.
Ricardo Molina te equivocas completamente cuando dices que lo escucho con el celular o el pc. Lo escucho con unos Sennheiser o unos Superlux, o Onkyo de más de 300€, te podría decir más porque tengo más alternativas en auriculares. O con mi equipo de Hifi Yamaha-WHARFEDALE, y si quieres en mi auto con etapa Hertz, procesador Pioneer y altavoces 3 vías Focal!!! Mi oído está entrenado ya que soy amante del audio y la música, y cuando dije que sonaba mal era porque el sonido del micro de la review no transmite realismo, pero no lo decía por el sub. Evidentemente es una gran mejora al audio de stock a veces, por ejemplo en un Outlander no es una mejora ya que ya lleva equipo Rockford-Fosgate y subwoofer de 10 pulgadas.