Is Darien Lake Removing Two MORE Rides???
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- Опубликовано: 23 фев 2023
- Six Flags has quietly removed a slew of rides from different park websites, and this has led to the majority of people thinking they'll be removed. Darien Lake has removed two rides, those being Big Kahuna and Heave Ho. With removing older/high maintenance rides becoming a mainstay in the Six Flags chain, this had led me to believe there needs to be some major investments into Darien Lake's flat ride collection, soon rather than later.
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This park is in such a sad state. In the late 90s early 2000s the place seemed so full of excitement and life. Now they keep removing rides and not adding anything of value, and wonder why the park isn't performing well. I understand the park is in a weird location but it has a huge campground an on-site hotel and a concert venue that gets some big acts. Being a rochesterian it really sucks seeing this park dwindle away when it has sooo much potential
I’m on the other side- from Buffalo, but I completely agree with everything you said. This park used to be the place to be. It’s really nothing like it used to be, atmosphere-wise. Super sad!
It's ironic that in the 80s the worry was that Darien Lake would put Seabreeze in Rochester out of business. Now Seabreeze is cruising along marketing itself as the classic family park while Darien Lake tries to define what it really is.
One sad thing is that the big kahuna was a water slide from Astroworld, it’s kinda iconic
IIRC, it was one of the few "survivors" of Astroworld's tragic end. (Possibly the last former attraction that was still operating, not 100% sure of that though...)
@@gordontaylor2815 I believe Mayan Mindbender, a Vekoma family coaster from AstroWorld, still operates at Wonderland in Amarillo as Hornet as well as Serial Thriller the Vekoma SLC operates at LaRonde as
Ednör - L'Attaque. The trains for XLR-8 were sent to Magic Mountain and may or may not still be used on Ninja in some capacity.
@@gordontaylor2815 la ronde still has the slc
Darien Lakes glory years were 1996-2003. Every year a new ride was added. (Nightmare, Wave Pool, Mind Eraser, Superman, Boomerang, Twister, Shipwreck Falls, Tornado) That's also when it turned into Six Flags, added the concert pavilion & hotel. Business was booming.The park felt so alive. It was the popular place to be. We looked forward to the new attraction every summer. Nowadays, it's following in the same footsteps as Martin's Fantasy Island.
I agree! It’s sad we only get a new ride every few years now
This park seriously needs a new Ferris wheel, at least the gondolas from the old one are being reused as Halloween props
I appreciate that at least
i think what hurts Darien Lake the most right now is not officially being owned by Six Flags.this could also be why they haven't rethemed back to DC. this could also mean that others besides Six Flags might have some say in what stays and what goes.
Loving this channel. I went to Darien Lake this past Sunday and I can definitely see the need for family oriented rides. The thing is that Darien Lake has potential, like some seriously good potential. If they added a few newer family oriented rides, maximize the space they have, maybe add a new roller coaster, i.e. like Wild Cat Revenge at Hershey, that would be amazing. I get having some of the older rides and that's fine, but viper has ran its course. It's old, very shaky and the amount of room that it takes up is crazy. As a marketing business owner with 20 years of experience under my belt, I can see that there is an audience for the park, but it has to be marketed right. Just look at places like Silver Dollar City or Dollywood, Darien has real potential.
I wonder why Darien Lake is so low on the priority list for SF, since I honestly think the location has incredible potential. I agree that ride removal is an issue. I also think that Darien Lake could benefit from improving their coaster lineup in some way, and perhaps actually not make another clone. The best rides there are ROS, Tantrum, and Viper, none of which particularly stand out when compared with the lineups of other parks. Don’t get me wrong, they’re great rides, but I feel as if Darien Lake should have something better going for it. Only re-tracking a single section of Predator also isn’t much help.
The park has potential but the lack of public transit doesn't help, and neither does the fact it keeps bouncing from one operator to another. The actual owners, EPR properties, don't invest anything into the park, and they don't seem interested in selling it (from rumors that Herschend tried to buy it, but EPR's conditions were ridiculous), so... Darien Lake's future probably isn't great.
@@brianstart8276 Yeah it's really tough. Darien Lake isn't in a good location, which is good because there's no reason to ever close the park and sell it, but it's bad because there's no way to get the employees they need from a place like Buffalo, and forget Rochester.
The main thing that's been keeping it going is the fact that you have the campgrounds and concert venue on the property as well as the rides and attractions. Darien Lake has all the ingredients to become an "A-List" amusement park, but no one seems interested (or capable) enough to make the necessary investments to tap that potential. 😔
@@amusementscape stop taking stuff u grew up with that park, had fun pretty sad they are removing these rides
I mean they have the original Ride of Steel. It was made for this park. But I do agree that alone with viper and tantrum isn't enough to bring new attendance. Especially when there's better parks not that far away like Canada's Wonderland and Great Escape.
For the prices they now charge (I’ve heard there is a parking charge for day use park go-ers) they have to improve the park. Especially with more family rides and maybe a top of the line thrill ride. I love it there for the camping and nostalgia. But gutting the Ferris wheel was a big blow to me. That’s been an icon for the park. And the lazer light show. It doesn’t make any sense why they got rid of that. It keeps people spending money in the park till the very end. I’m Canadian, but if I won your powerBall I’d invest 3/4 of it into Darien Lake and bring it back to the golden era of the 90’s. thanks for the videos. Really.
Anytime! If I ever become rich when I'm older I'd do the same. I think it'd be a great way to give back to the local community and would be so cool to see the park completely thrive!
Money. Simple answer. The laser show is about 300k a year to produce after COVID they had to lighten a lot of the extra spending and sadly that was a large expense to help with actually opening the park for 21'. The laser show will return this year.
How’d you hear it’ll be returning?
The laser show is back this year! Finally! But yes, darien lake needs a face-lift.
The wheel was so iconic, and as you said, it needs more family rides, and 1 hyper coaster that is bigger than ride of steel.
Arrows dont really have a definative service life. Some arrows are well over 40 years old (closer to 50) and are in great shape. They get torn down strictly to make room for something else. Parts are available through S&S, who bought the patents and operations of Arrow.
That's true, but Vortex was ran all the time at max capacity and the park said it was at the end of its service life and still hasn't replaced it.
They baby Viper, it'll be there for awhile
They did bring back the laser light show for the over night stayers this year
Don't forget about UFO and ranger. My favs.
Tbh I’m super upset they got rid of the older style rides they had especially twister I get that they were hard to maintain but still
And I almost forgot about the laser light show!
@@gogomica it's fine to retire old rides but they need to replace them with something.
Yup I didn’t even get into that. That was before my time haha
That’s another huge one, I made a silent reference in the video with some footage of the stage
At least Six Flags is kind of keeping flat rides that don’t exist at other parks anymore like Twister at Six Flags Great Adventure that surprisingly runs pretty good and consistently
The park just needs new blood. So much land with lots of potential. The park can probably be bought for a song and turned into a concerto by someone needing to expand into a new market even if it is an international brand. Some solid theming could make this place a refreshed destination.
IMO i think they should refurb ride of steel, viper, predator(full retrack not just sections), most of the older original flat rides. Then place coasters in the vacant spots or soon to be vacant spots. new coaster every 1-3 years. Replace less popular flat rides with new, more popular ones. Also there is so much unused camping land that could be utilized.
Yeah if they give it proper investment it would be a good park
Yes would love to see thoughts on add/remove.
We had passes for years. Its too bad it was never taken care of after six flags first purchased it years ago. Viper house has needed a paint job for years. There is so much unutillezed space there. Niagara splash could probably pass it in attendance with a few decent rides
It's gonna be interesting to see how the next 10 years go. If Niagara can purchase some new flat rides they'll be in better shape.
IB's coaster purchases feel more like 1.) Super budget additions, and/or 2.) A coaster-historian's collection. I'm personally a lot more pessimistic about Niagara Amusement/Splash. I don't see it getting the kinds of coasters that would compete with Viper, Tantrum, or Ride of Steel.
Corn Popper looks like a cool and unique ride. I hope they don't get rid of that one.
First ride I ever rode at this park!
I've always loved the assortment of family rides at Darien Lake. I'd hate to see any of them go.
I would love to see something big from Vekoma come here
I disagree about the family rides honestly, while they could do with some I think what the park really needs is a new major thrill coaster. Ride of steel is great but dated. They are slowly titan tracking predator so probably no RMC on that which is fine, but if that's the case they ought to utilize the land and put in something to draw in tourists from niagra, toronto, and the rest of the surrounding states. As well of course doing a decent repaint on Ride of Steel and others. I say trim the fat of the older rides if they are costly and focus on providing a high quality compact package that packs a punch
I haven’t been here since 2012. I was planning on going this year. Twister needed to go. I’m sad to see Grizzly Run go 😢
As a child I loved six flags. Mostly for the water park. I wasn’t a huge thrill ride fan. I hate what the water park turned into. I miss the old lazy river where at the end it was a waterfall you dropped down from. I also loved grizzly run and the log flume. They had a unique log ride as it had two drops. I hope they can turn it around. I ended up going to dorney park this summer and fell in love with that place. It had all the rides I missed at Darien with more thrill rides.
Yes Love To Know Anything You Got Thks Even Now Or Show What’s Going With Constructing and Repairing Great Video
Hey Kid, very good videos. And I always remember you cuz of gene freakin staples lol
Thanks! I guess that's a channel trademark now haha
The park really needs some TLC. Fresh paint everywhere, retooling of the pathways to make getting to certain rides easier (looking at you Motocoaster). Replace some wheels on the coasters ( At least Predator is getting more Titan track this year so that's one win) . Add a copuple smaller flat rides. The park has a lot of potential if someone wanted to put money into it. It's just outside of a major city with Buffalo, it has a very nice campground and a major concert venue that constantly pulls very major tours every year. With a few new rides and some major park maintenance (seriously some repainting would go a very long way here) I feel this park could easily be a very good mid-tier six flags park.
I was there yesterday and the Viper was so rough... It is nostalgic but painful, they need to refurbish or replace it I hate to say. I am upset they removed the Whip and quite a few other flat family rides only to add another coaster to make it MOSTLY thrill rides kids can't ride
When we went yesterday, on the wahoo wave slide, we saw the big kahuna. It looked really dirty and just abandoned. And it wasn't even on the website. A shame because it looked really fun
Just heard that it’s coming back at some point. Hopefully they clean it up
You're wrong about Viper. Parts are provided for the Coaster from S&S World Wide. So Viper can operate for as long as SFDL wants to keep it.
Six Flags sucks. I wish Cedar Fair would purchase it. The park is so crusty and never gets anything new. New CEO will never give it any new rides.
Darien lake is the red headed step child for the 6 flags chain. We frequently joke it should be called 4 flags since a lot of the rides never run.
There are 2.5 million people within 75 miles of the park. There are plenty of people to come here. People arent going to come for a run down park which constantly gets rid of rides.
For a little more you can get a season pass to Great Adventure in NJ which has performers, rides open, new rides...
Darien Lake is a joke and really needs to get its shit together.
Lmao I agree
Do you know if for sure if the laser show is not coming back even after it was said it was before the season passes were set to be released at current prices?
I’m unsure at this point. I’ll probably do a park update later on trying to confirm this
@@amusementscape Thanks I will look for it.
@7:22 is the boomerang stuck? If it is, never saw that before.
Yeah, it valleyed the second to last day of the 2021 season, so it was weird but interesting to see
The state of DL and Six Flags in general is quite depressing.
Agree On All You Said We Need More Rides And predator Should Get All New Tracks They Were Trying That Made that Wooden Coaster Awesome MY Opinion But just One Thing They Need A B&M Or Something Flying Coaster Where Your Feet Goes Back and Locks And Big Maybe Go in Caves With Lightning and Lights Could Be Called Superman Revenged Or Rage Of Godzilla Or Kong Just A Idea
Darien Lake is a mess
Did Six Flags re-purchase Darien Lake or are they just operating it similar to Frontier City?
Just operating it
Both are just leases, I think they are for a long time though
@@amusementscape I would think then that Six Flags would need the park's ownership group to pay for ride additions - it would make sense that Six Flags aren't investing large sums into Darien Lake.
@@Matthew74Anderson I think Six Flags pays for rides, but I'm not 100 percent on that
LaRonde is also operated this what.
This is the closest six flags park to me at 8 hours away, and I have never visited it specifically because I have heard the horrors of the one train ops.
I'd honestly give it a shot someday. It you don't go during a concert or big event, I usually enjoy it.
@@amusementscape Its on the radar being close enough for a weekend trip, its just such a hard sell. My home park is Cedar Point and that alone keeps me satisfied as well as KI just 2 1/2 hours away. I only have 122 credits and there are parks closer that I am missing. I still need to get to Holiday World, Indiana Beach, and Kentucky Kingdom all for the first time and those are 5-7 hours away. I also wonder if it wouldn't be better for me to hit up SFSL and SFGA first even though they are 9-10 hours away. Then there are now what I see as yearly must visits. I gotta get back to Great Adventure and Kings Dominion this year. All I can say was that El Toro and I-305 blew me away last year. I gotta get back to those.
Honestly if you go on a week day the lines are never long. My dude you get on the Superman in like 10 minutes, most times sooner. I haven’t waited more than 30 minutes for any ride there in god knows how long
Yeah hit those parks first for sure
There’s also Niagara & Wonderland nearby if you want to do 2-3 days in the area
Yeah I honestly cannot stand Darien since the removals of rides and lack of care to it. Enough with the damn waterslides already too! So sick and tired of the waterparks getting any sort of stuff and the park itself getting nothing.
They should fully retrack and do a hulk style makeover to Ride of Steel.
Six flags doesn't own this park. Six flags only has name rights. It's owned by another company.
Let you all know this. Failed news super man as stay at dl.
Before I even watch....yes. yes they do💀. With zero replacements. Alright on with the video🎶🎵🤘
Haha I thought it should be something that people need to be a aware of
@@amusementscape agreed🎶🎵🤘
No family oriented shows either. I purchased a season pass last year hoping to see some good family oriented shows as I am a bit older and have health issues.