I've heard of the mod for SH3. didn't know it was also available for the other silent hill games until I read your comment. I should actually try it out sometime.
@@metalphantom4425 Sorry, the moment you used "Cry some more" is the moment you lost me. Anyone who spouts that junk sounds like a manchild who never grew out of being a snot-nosed kid on the playground screaming at other kids when they don't get their way. Learn to actually use your words, maybe?
@@Terminated_Account , I think the issue is that the reasons often espoused by those that dislike the remake are almost arbitrary nitpicking, rather than a proper nuanced judgement. If you didn't have that rather odd crowd that lost their minds for the most inane reasons, your own criticism would probably be better received. Basically, nuanced criticism is certainly welcome, but you'll be lumped into that crowd unless given a reason not to. Everyone is hyper after that ordeal.
I love SH2 Remake and don't get me wrong. But I think this video explains it well on why the prison was my favorite area in the original to my least favorite in the remake. In the remake the prison is cool but I felt it to be filled with to MANY monsters and it kind of took that quiet eerie feeling that the prison had in the original.
@@jacksonmay153 You’re so used to running past almost every enemy in the og Silent Hill 2 that any horror game where you’re actually forced to engage with the enemies is “action-y” in your mind. Kinda sad tbh
I find more disturbing the same level in the remake. Those fucking mannequins act like spiders, resurrect when you never expect them too and get too annoying.
Nah los ports de PC de zelda 64 estan mucho mejor y con las texturas oficiales q uso nintendo en el 3ds y a 60fps con wide. Y los quality of life mods. Uff. Chef kiss
the problem with remake is they threw a lot of enemies all at once and it ruins the ambiance since you became too focused on combat instead of running ayaw from enemies. The sound design is a bit overdone. In the OG there are places that is purely ambient.
There are also plenty of sections in the remake that are purely ambient as well. The soundscape is extremely similar to the original with only a couple minor changes to the sounds of new or revamped enemies (such as the Spider Mannequins or the reworked Abstract Daddy)
@krokodilomot not OP, but I do agree. Imo They made the prison too modern stylistically, and it doesn't have this ancient forbidden vibe to it. Also the level design is more complex but also more "video gamey" with a blatant resident evil style puzzle theme and the sectioned off branches you go down one at a time. There is also wayyyy more enemies which can be intense but at that point in the game you start to feel the length and the long stretches of combat grow tiresome It is definitely the low point in the remake, and in the original it was one of my favorites Its still good but its a downgrade
@@michaelelmes2135 You pretty much nailed it - while the prison isn't as overstretched as some other areas, it's much less interesting both visually and from gameplay perspective. Labirynth is even longer, but at least has it's moments
@Andriej69 yeah I think the labyrinth is worse than the OG too, but like you say certain moments are some highlights of the whole game. Particularly Angela's stuff But damn on hard mode those dangling enemies are soooo annoying and unfun to fight or run past. Really put me in a bad mood for that whole section
I hate the remake cuz of how much it lost when they made the camera a generic over the shoulder action shooter camera, or in short: literally re4 remake
The remake didn’t loose anything with the over the shoulder I played both re4 remake and silent hill remake also played both originals and it’s not really anything like re4 boohoo they added over the shoulder I felt more tense and horror playing the sh2 remake than the original the camera angle helps with that too adds more to it as well
It's funny how this level went from the scariest in the original, to barely even mildly interesting in the remake. Like they knew it wasn't scary, so they filled it with infinity zillion enemies to provoke a response
Yeah I’ve been running the game over and over trying to get all the endings and I gotta say the prison is definitely a slog. I’ve nailed down each area to where I’m spending about 30 minutes to get thru them but even then every time I get to the prison I groan a little to myself knowing what’s coming next. Can’t put my finger on it but there’s nothing all that scary about the prison which should’ve been the easiest area for them to nail. I’ll give props to the prison church and showers for having a little bit of character but the rest of the area just doesn’t give me that uneasy feeling the original did. Especially the boar section. Save the one jump scare in the women’s bathroom when you try to leave after investigating the locked stall, it’s just a nonstarter for me.
My issue with the area is that they made it significantly longer than the original and filled it with so many puzzles and numerous respawning monsters. Which is ironic bc the og toluca prison barely even had that much monsters, it's the emptiness and brooding ambience sound that added the creepiness to it. Meanwhile the remake completely abandoned all that
It’s WAY scarier in the remake. Horror games need an actual tangible threat to make the player feel true fear. Atmosphere alone is not enough. The Spider Mannequins in the remake Prison are that tangible threat. In the original, the Prison was just filled with enemies you’ve already seen before that you could just run past (except the Nurses) so there was no actual reason to be more scared of it than any of the other areas prior to it. The remake Prison on the other hand actually has a new challenging enemy that acts as a payoff to the harrowing ambient suspense built up in the early parts of the Prison before you reach the Armory.
@@EraVulgarity Obviously it’s never gonna reach the same levels of unease that the original Prison instilled in you because they used mostly the exact same sound effects and ambient noises as the original meaning you’re essentially playing through a slightly altered area with one new enemy that you’ve already explored before. It’s obviously never gonna hit the same as when you first explored the Prison in the original. Horror games and movies are well known for getting much less scary on repeat watches or playthroughs
@@v-trigger6137 The emptiness and ambient noises may make the original area creepy but they don’t make it scary. In order for a horror game to actually scare the player (at least from my experience) there has to be some kind of tangible threat that they are not used to. The remake area uses mostly the same sound effects and ambient noises as the original. Except it actually has a new tangible threat for the player to be afraid of (the Spider Mannequins). Therefore it is much scarier than the original for most first time players
The new silent hill 2 remake introduces the new enemies known as crawlers, in this section. Basically mannequins but they crawl on the walls
easily the area that stuck out the most to me on my first playthrough of SH2. The ambience is just unmatched
I recently played the game with the first person mod and I must say that it is a unique experience
I've heard of the mod for SH3. didn't know it was also available for the other silent hill games until I read your comment. I should actually try it out sometime.
@@ShrubbYoshii11 The mod is insane and let you switch on original, tps or fps caméra on the fly
Few moments have made me say “oh god” out loud than going down the 4th or 5th giant hole in the prison
the pic at the beginning LMAO. also the sfx at 2:50 have me dying lol
So glad you're using the original for this video
"Feat the camera" the remake has no camera style, its generic action shooter.
@@Terminated_Account cry some more
@@metalphantom4425One gives his opinion, the other cries cuz their remake isnt loved by the 100% of the population...
@@metalphantom4425 Sorry, the moment you used "Cry some more" is the moment you lost me. Anyone who spouts that junk sounds like a manchild who never grew out of being a snot-nosed kid on the playground screaming at other kids when they don't get their way.
Learn to actually use your words, maybe?
@@Terminated_Account , I think the issue is that the reasons often espoused by those that dislike the remake are almost arbitrary nitpicking, rather than a proper nuanced judgement. If you didn't have that rather odd crowd that lost their minds for the most inane reasons, your own criticism would probably be better received. Basically, nuanced criticism is certainly welcome, but you'll be lumped into that crowd unless given a reason not to. Everyone is hyper after that ordeal.
0:03 It’s him…
John Hill?
0:03 its James Sigmaland😂
I love SH2 Remake and don't get me wrong. But I think this video explains it well on why the prison was my favorite area in the original to my least favorite in the remake. In the remake the prison is cool but I felt it to be filled with to MANY monsters and it kind of took that quiet eerie feeling that the prison had in the original.
yes!! glad i am not the only one. it got annoying and actually ruined the mood. It got too action-y. And just annoying.
@@jacksonmay153 You’re so used to running past almost every enemy in the og Silent Hill 2 that any horror game where you’re actually forced to engage with the enemies is “action-y” in your mind. Kinda sad tbh
0:38 RITUAL
Goat has uploaded another blessing
loved the content, do you plan on posting more stuff like this?
I find more disturbing the same level in the remake. Those fucking mannequins act like spiders, resurrect when you never expect them too and get too annoying.
Another seriously eerie location is the forest world in silent hill 4
The water prison is also unforgettable for me.
What game is that at 2:20?
Dino Crisis
yup. its Dino Crisis on the PS1
Nah los ports de PC de zelda 64 estan mucho mejor y con las texturas oficiales q uso nintendo en el 3ds y a 60fps con wide. Y los quality of life mods. Uff. Chef kiss
the problem with remake is they threw a lot of enemies all at once and it ruins the ambiance since you became too focused on combat instead of running ayaw from enemies. The sound design is a bit overdone. In the OG there are places that is purely ambient.
But u dont need to fight them to progress. I just ran past in this sections (doors with heads).
There are also plenty of sections in the remake that are purely ambient as well. The soundscape is extremely similar to the original with only a couple minor changes to the sounds of new or revamped enemies (such as the Spider Mannequins or the reworked Abstract Daddy)
great video , keep it up 👍
banger
The Fear
Game: here's 60% dark, 20% fog, 20% blood.
nostalgia baiters in the comments oh brother
its terror not horror
Funnily enough, Prison in the remake is one of the least interesting locations, unlike the original
Why so, can you explain, please?
@krokodilomot not OP, but I do agree.
Imo
They made the prison too modern stylistically, and it doesn't have this ancient forbidden vibe to it.
Also the level design is more complex but also more "video gamey" with a blatant resident evil style puzzle theme and the sectioned off branches you go down one at a time.
There is also wayyyy more enemies which can be intense but at that point in the game you start to feel the length and the long stretches of combat grow tiresome
It is definitely the low point in the remake, and in the original it was one of my favorites
Its still good but its a downgrade
@@michaelelmes2135 You pretty much nailed it - while the prison isn't as overstretched as some other areas, it's much less interesting both visually and from gameplay perspective. Labirynth is even longer, but at least has it's moments
@Andriej69 yeah I think the labyrinth is worse than the OG too, but like you say certain moments are some highlights of the whole game. Particularly Angela's stuff
But damn on hard mode those dangling enemies are soooo annoying and unfun to fight or run past. Really put me in a bad mood for that whole section
I hate the remake cuz of how much it lost when they made the camera a generic over the shoulder action shooter camera,
or in short: literally re4 remake
The remake didn’t loose anything with the over the shoulder I played both re4 remake and silent hill remake also played both originals and it’s not really anything like re4 boohoo they added over the shoulder I felt more tense and horror playing the sh2 remake than the original the camera angle helps with that too adds more to it as well
If you want that fear and unease, try the game in VR... that'll get you tense, lol.
I wouldn’t say RE4 it felt more like The Last of Us to me.
@@AmatariasGunplay is RE4 and Melee is TLOU....
It's funny how this level went from the scariest in the original, to barely even mildly interesting in the remake. Like they knew it wasn't scary, so they filled it with infinity zillion enemies to provoke a response
Yeah I’ve been running the game over and over trying to get all the endings and I gotta say the prison is definitely a slog. I’ve nailed down each area to where I’m spending about 30 minutes to get thru them but even then every time I get to the prison I groan a little to myself knowing what’s coming next. Can’t put my finger on it but there’s nothing all that scary about the prison which should’ve been the easiest area for them to nail. I’ll give props to the prison church and showers for having a little bit of character but the rest of the area just doesn’t give me that uneasy feeling the original did. Especially the boar section. Save the one jump scare in the women’s bathroom when you try to leave after investigating the locked stall, it’s just a nonstarter for me.
My issue with the area is that they made it significantly longer than the original and filled it with so many puzzles and numerous respawning monsters. Which is ironic bc the og toluca prison barely even had that much monsters, it's the emptiness and brooding ambience sound that added the creepiness to it. Meanwhile the remake completely abandoned all that
It’s WAY scarier in the remake. Horror games need an actual tangible threat to make the player feel true fear. Atmosphere alone is not enough. The Spider Mannequins in the remake Prison are that tangible threat.
In the original, the Prison was just filled with enemies you’ve already seen before that you could just run past (except the Nurses) so there was no actual reason to be more scared of it than any of the other areas prior to it.
The remake Prison on the other hand actually has a new challenging enemy that acts as a payoff to the harrowing ambient suspense built up in the early parts of the Prison before you reach the Armory.
@@EraVulgarity Obviously it’s never gonna reach the same levels of unease that the original Prison instilled in you because they used mostly the exact same sound effects and ambient noises as the original meaning you’re essentially playing through a slightly altered area with one new enemy that you’ve already explored before. It’s obviously never gonna hit the same as when you first explored the Prison in the original. Horror games and movies are well known for getting much less scary on repeat watches or playthroughs
@@v-trigger6137 The emptiness and ambient noises may make the original area creepy but they don’t make it scary. In order for a horror game to actually scare the player (at least from my experience) there has to be some kind of tangible threat that they are not used to. The remake area uses mostly the same sound effects and ambient noises as the original. Except it actually has a new tangible threat for the player to be afraid of (the Spider Mannequins). Therefore it is much scarier than the original for most first time players