Lifting the 2021 Jeep Gladiator Mojave While Maintaining the Factory Suspension
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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The EPIC team performs a suspension lift on the 2021 Jeep Mojave Gladiator. We're finding that most people don't understand how different this Gladiator is from all the other Gladiator models. This is not a Rubicon, although it costs as much.
The Mojave was designed around speed desert running (thus the desert rated badge) similar to the marketing around the Ford Raptor. Some of the general differences are:
Multiple Frame Reinforcements
Fox 2.5 Internal Bypass Shocks with Remote Reservoirs
Fox Hydraulic Front Bump Stops
Factory-Tuned Custom Performance Springs
Cast Steel Knuckles
Raised Steel Hood
Rear Locker, 2.72 T-Case
Performance Steering Wheel, Extra Bolstered Seats w/Orange Stitching, Gunmetal Textured Dash, etc.
To lift this Gladiator, there is no point in replacing the amazing Fox suspension system (as you paid a premium for it), so we worked with Teraflex to get us a specific spring spacer kit with matching shock extensions. This method will give us 2" of lift front/rear while maintaining the proper positioning of the shocks such that they operate as designed.
The result turned out fantastic, with a great driving Gladiator while being able to fit 35" tires. In our opinion, this is one of the best driving Gladiators out there!
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Here's what we did to make this happen. Teraflex does not have a kit for the Mojave, so we assembled the following:
1375300 - JT 3.5" Spacer Lift, No Shocks
- Utilized front swaybar links in the rear.
- Utilized 2" worth of rear bump stops (1.5" upper, 0.5" rear pad).
- Utilized front 2" bump stops.
- Utilized 1.5" rear coil spring spacer.
- Tossed the rest of the kit away.
05-01-309-050 (x2)
- 0.5" rear coil spring spacer, bolted together with the 1.5" spacers from 1375300.
05-01-109-200 (x2)
- 2" Front coil spring spacers.
1764000 - JT front swaybar front disconnect kit.
1253000 - Lower front sport arms.
1753420 - Adjustable Front track bar.
1985200 - 2" Shock Extension Bracket Kit
- Only used the fronts.
EVO-3083B - EVO Part
- Rear 2.5" shock extensions.
Dang this dude is an outstanding mechanic. Give him a raise..
Please!
This seems to be a great kit, hopefully, Teraflex will produce it and add it to the Gladiator Mojave list of available kits. Thanks for sharing!
The good folks at Teraflex are working on it!
@@EPIC-4WD apparently still working on it...lol
Add the “buy now” link. 😀
the story till now brought me here awesome Jeep
Welcome sir! Thanks for watching! Cheers!
@@EPIC-4WD just subscribed what rims are those?
@@KevinGarcia-nc9ff Those are the 17x9 Fuel Rebel 5 Wheels in Black.
@@EPIC-4WD Question are there in 37” I just ordered some 39 x 13.5 On 17 “
Are you dirty life beadlock rims....BF goodrich 3KM and just wondering if I’m gonna have to do a lift already have the Mopar 2” lift on my Rubicon JLUR might have to get a hold of you guys and give you a visit ... to do some upgrades .... cheers ! from the Shuswap Lake
And yes Shaun hooked me up with your RUclips channel
Thanks for the video, I have been driving a 2000 Wrangler since 2001 and hope to upgrade to a Gladiator Mojave this year, if I do this is the lift I want for it.
Thanks Troy!
The story till now got you another sub. Great vids to!
Welcome!
AEV makes a 2” spacer lift, specifically for the Mojave that requires no modification to the stock tuned Fox suspension.
Does this make the overall lift 3” then, since the Mojave is already lifted 1”? In the words of Tenacious D, “1 & 1 make 2, 2 and 1 make 3”.
@@brandonhunter2760 i would think being the mojave front springs is where the 1" stock comes from and the AEV kit you're reusing the springs?
I can’t wait to get my Mojave!!
Cant wait to bring my gladiator rubicon diesel for you guys to build
We just picked up our new EcoDiesel Gladiator in Hydro Blue yesterday. Build starts soon! So weird to drive a stock Gladiator ;-)
Definitely doing this to my 2020 Mojave! Thanks guys!
No Problemo!
Here I thought it was Mo-jayve, rhymes with Dave.
Now some footage of it bombing over some trails at 60mph!
I have a 2020 Mojave. And have been wanting to lift it for years. I just now stumbled across this video. Is this still the best way to lift it while maintaining the stock shocks? Or does teraflex have an entire kit you can order now?
Awesome overview, thanks guys
Hopefully you can help me with this i have a rubicon and a complete Mojave suspension take off, i ordered everything you did here just in debate on using Rubi springs or Mojave springs. From what i gathered the Mojave springs do not provide the full inch of lift, some of the Mojave lift comes from the hydro bump frame. I am not necessarily bombing desert, Mostly jacked up rocky forest service roads. I have been running the shocks for about 2 months and it rides pretty good with Rubi springs. But have no butt time on Mojave springs. Opinion please befor i tare everything aprt to put lift.
why did you use the EVO rear shock brackets instead of the Teraflex???
Why did you use 2.5" shock extensions from Evo and not the 2" from Teraflex for the rear? Please excuse my ignorance. I don't know sheet about suspensions and am only leaning little by little by watching all your videos.....and asking dumb questions. ;P
No problem. You'd be best to give the Ginger a call to discuss your questions 604-888-2961. In regards to the rear shock extensions, at the time of this video (it's quite old), there was no Teraflex extensions on the market. cheers!
Nice build, btw what sunglasses do you have on man 🕶
There is really not much offered out there for the Mojave yet. Thank you for putting this together. I just completed my lift and I'm very happy with it. Other than height it handles the same as stock. I can't thank you enough. Just a couple last questions....I drove before and after installing the the teraflex sport arms and noticed a huge difference. Do you think this setup would benefit replacing the rear lower control arms? Last question. I promise. How about a rear track bar relocation bracket and or Adjustable track bar?
Awesome! Glad to hear our video helped you out! Replacing the rear upper arms, adding the new Teraflex rear trackbar bracket and using an adjustable front trackbar would be the final icing on the cake ;-)
So when you put a two inch lift on a vehicle already lifted 0ne inch higher than normal, does it raise it one inch more or two inches more?
Is it ok to use 37” tires with this suspension setup?
Yep. They do an "updated" Mojave Frankenlift that has 37s on it.
Why 1.5” of lift in the rear but 2” of bump stop?
Gonna do the 2”aev kit in the spring I think
great video congratulations. What brand of wheels are they and what size of tires and brands?
Thanks! All listed in the video description! ;-)
Love that jeep
Yeah, it's a fun drive!
Why did y’all use the adjustable control arm, sway bar disconnect, and sport arm? Those aren’t necessary for the lift right? You can’t use what’s in the Mojave already for those parts?
John Thibodeaux the adjustable track bar allows you to center the axle side to side. As you lift the suspension the axle will move to one side. The control arms are made for a lifted Jeep and keep the alignment in spec by rotating the axle slightly. The quick disconnects are there to help you flex off road but aren’t technically needed.
I’m going to keep coming back to this video until I get this install completed. Hope you don’t get tired of me. Did you notice or have any problem with The TeraFlex shock extensions in the front? TeraFlex says to reuse the bolt to mount the shock. It appears that bolt’s diameter is too big for the hole in the shock extension? I’m sure I will owe you guys more than just one beer by the time this is over with. And... 2 inch lift, 2 inch bump stop extensions With 2 1/2 inch shock extensions in the rear if I understand correctly? Any concerns with the shock bottoming out before the bump stop?
Yeah, the front lower shock mounts on the Mojave axle are beefier. So you have to do some modifications to make the Teraflex extensions work. The rear - no concerns here.
Wouldn’t the AEV spacer kit be the way to go now? Then add the lower arms and track bar? Was that not available when you guys did this?
Yes that's exactly what we recommend now to save hunting a bunch of part numbers. And then we add the front track bar, lower control arms, rear track bar bracket and if wanted a set of sway bar disconnects.
@Epic Adventure Outfitters I see this video is almost a year old. When viewing the Teraflex website and putting in info for a 2022 Mojave, it gives several options for lift kits... being a newbie, it's a little confusing and I could use some guidance. Have these kits been made available since your lift and were not available to you ? Are they "complete" kits or is your product list and pieced together kit still the way to go ? I also notice some options included springs and other options, I didn't see you guys change any of that, so I'm guessing its not needed. Is there a complete kit you would recommend ?
Thanks...subscribed !
Give us a call and we can chat about options.
Just came across this video and your comment, the Teraflex website is confusing. I don’t think they provide this as a full lift kit, just individual parts. Did you ever contact the bearded ginger?
So is this the Teraflex 3.50-Inch Performance Spacer Lift Kit and some added custom things to it ?
Details are listed in the video description.
What size drill bit did you use on the Teraflex shock extensions? And did you use M14 bolts/nuts or 9/16”?
I am trying to assemble this kit and want it to be exact. Having a hard time finding PN-05 01 309 050 (0.5 rear coil spring spacers) and PN-05 01 109 200 (2" front coil spacers). Not seeing these numbers at Tera flex or Quadratec and impossible to get in touch with a human at either place. Any suggestions? Or can you tell me what jeep and year these spacers were intended for or are all JK,JL JT coil spacers the same? Again, thank you for the work you put into this setup. Wish I could just purchase this kit from you.
UPDATE: Did get to speak to someone at Teraflex. They are familiar with this video, says he gets multiple calls a day because of it. Very helpful, had a few different suggestions. Parts are now all ordered. Thank you guys at EPIC!
@@phuckauthority5220 Awesome! Have fun, it's a great setup and a wicked riding Jeep! Cheers!
Del what was your final cost for the kit?
R4 Kings Not sure off the top of my head, I didn’t add everything up. Was kind of avoiding that. Lol. I think it was somewhere around 1200. That also includes a rear track bar relocation bracket and maybe some other odds and ends.
@@phuckauthority5220 What are those part numbers? I'm looking for those parts as well to assemble this lift. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
I have the 21 Mojave. If you could can you please list the component kit front and rear so I could piece this together? Much appreciated
Congrats! And everything you need to know is in the video description! Cheers!
I would be a buyer if you pieced the kit together. I'm new to this jeep life and I'm searching for everything you listed but it seems there's more parts than what's on the table in your video.
If you'd entertain the idea of selling the kit; please follow up with me.
Subscribed and liked the video.
Thank you
Thanks for following along Patrick. If you'd like, give us a call this week at 604-888-2961. We can ship product anywhere in Canada. If you're not in Canada, then we can try to find a shop in your area that can provide the product. Cheers!
What are those wheels? I have a Mojave and bought a set of Fuel Convert 17x9 with a -12 offset, but they stick out way too much, I’ve seen the same wheels on gladiators and they definitely don’t stick out that much. What am I doing wrong? Please help
I own a mojave . NOW I CAN LIFT IT !!!
I can't believe you're not lifting it right now...
@@EPIC-4WD
How does it effect the drive shafts?
Terraflex doesn’t have a lot of these part numbers on their website.
Do they actually plan to make a lift kit like this?
You have to contact Teraflex about some of them, like the spacers that have their own part numbers.
One more question. Why not use the Teraflex rear shock extensions? Thanks guys!
Teraflex does not make or offer rear shock extensions for a Gladiator, thus why we used EVO ones.
Do you have to order 05-01-309-050 (x2) and 05-01-109-200 (x2) separately from the kit 1375300?
Yes.
Epic Adventure Outfitters response is not coming up for me. Can someone repost there response please.
@@jeynetich not on their website. I had to call.
I've read different opinions on 37's with this lift. Would you recommend?
37s work fine, just adjust the bumpstops. Additionally, for 37s we'd do some flat fenders like American Adventure Labs.
What would a similar set up like this look like for a gladiator rubicon?
Gorgeoussss
Why such small tires😐
I liiiiiiiiike it!
Are everyone of these parts required? IE: the swaybar disconnects, sport arms, and track bar? just curious.
I would say 80% yes, the sway bar disconnects would be the optional piece IMO
CAN YOU SUPPLY PART NUMBERS AND INFORMATION ON WHEELS AND TIRES? THANKS!
WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US?!?!? The part numbers for the lift are in the video description. The wheels are Fuel Rebel 5 17x9 +1 and the tires are Baja Boss 35x12.50R17. Cheers!
Trying to assemble this. Having trouble finding the rear 0.5 spacers with that part number? Is that a teraflex part? Or can I use any 0.5 spacer to go with the 1.5 from the teraflex kit? So glad I found your channel. Thanks for all the work that you put into this.
@@phuckauthority5220 It's a Teraflex Part. However, you can use any 0.5" rear coil spacer as it just sits on the axle, below the spring.
Epic Adventure Outfitters you guys are awesome. I am so stoked about this. Thank you! 👍🇺🇸
What’s the cost for this lift. Looks like some of the kit components were not used.
First time Jeep owner. I considered Spacers after my initial Mojave purchase. I was all for it until I read here and there something about the spacers could compromise the integrity of the suspension and/or handling. Any solid evidence of this?
Yeah, no idea what that means. If you put in spacers AND shock extensions to match those spacers, it retains pretty much the exact same handling as stock. We're doing this exactly lift in our own Mojave that we just picked up.
Think about it this way. Some people at a $100+ million lab somewhere came up with the perfect formula that balances performance, safety, economy and enjoyability. Then some randos online were like "HiGhEr = bEtTeR" and decided to throw a bunch of aftermarket stuff in, on, under and over their jeep.
@@StevenZagaris Not quite that simple. Remember, Jeep is a business. Businesses are in business to make a profit. There is only so much any company is willing to offer at X price to maintain profit. The aftermarket exists to offer increased performance over stock. I’m guessing that you have never been to SEMA?!
did you use the track bar bracket that comes in the kit?
Yes.
Most of the lifts I’m looking at don’t come with control arms or track bar can you do the lift without either
You can but really your only doing half of what is needed for it to drive properly
SWEEET !!!
We think you mean... "Schweeeeeeeeeeet" ;-)
@@EPIC-4WD exactly !!!!!!
very nice vids，i am also mojave owener，also with red beard^_^
can we make it 3.5"?
Can you please provide a parts list?
Will do shortly. Stay tuned.
And done. See the description for the video. Cheers!
@@EPIC-4WD Thank you. Outstanding work. Great Thought Leadership, man.
How do I put a lift on like this and level it out?
would 40's fit under there ya think?
Sure, with some fender trimming and bigger bump stops ;-)
@@EPIC-4WD Thank you, I think I'd better do as you did and do 37's. looks so good.
Where can I buy this kit
How do you think 37's would fit with this suspension setup?
not without a fender change.
@@EPIC-4WD The Mojave comes with the same High Clearance Fenders as the Rubicon. It has plenty of room to spare for 35s. I'm currently running Mickey Thompson MTZ P3's on mine. I could easily run 37s. With this lift I may go as high as 38s.
Sorry guys. But they fit perfect. 37’s without lift. No rubbing. I did a 3/4 spacer on the front to level it. Good to go!
A Mojave sits an inch higher than a Rubicon in the front from the factory and has the same fenders. If you are really lifting it two more inches, there shouldn’t be a problem with 37s front or back.
Whats the name of wheels?
All details on our website epic-4wd.com
Good
Are those 37 inch tires?
What’s the price for the lift?
How much $$ for this lift..??
👍🏻
Is this lift available for sale?
Not as a full kit, you have to piece it together using the part numbers in the video description.
What’s the lift kit name ?
Does it ride the same?
Yep, just a bit higher, otherwise it's the same suspension handling.
What offset are those fuel wheels?
On my Mojave I have 17" x 9.5 Black Rhino wheels with 4.5 backspace with 37x 12.5x17 Nitto Trailgrapplers .Bought the AEV 2" spacerlift for Mojave only kit. But doesn't need it. No rubbing at full turn and have plenty of fenderspace front and back. I might go ahead and use the AEV lift because right now the 37s hide the Fox Shocks and a liked seeing them. And the 37s make the truck .
manual mojave with that setup or a automatic which would you prefer?
Fucking sick!
Rough riding POS and weak frame rails, cant wait for the 392 so it REALLY falls flat on it's face.
Cool story
music adds nothing and is very annoying
Do you have to order 05-01-309-050 (x2) and 05-01-109-200 (x2) separately from the kit 1375300?
Yes.