Here's What I Love and Hate About My F30 335i BMW
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2018
- It's been a roller coaster of a ride in the past month fixing my cars, but when they work it's a beautiful thing. This week, we talk about the good and the bad of my 335i after one month of daily driving.
Авто/Мото
From a daily drivability standpoint these cars are wonderful. Practical/good looking four door sedan with a great engine/transmission combo. Tuning on the N55 platform has advanced so much in the last year or so and for 98% of enthusiasts this motor will satisfy. Great video!
Well said Omar
You take what I like about vehicle virgin, and get rid of the stuff I don’t. You keep it professional, and don’t go all clickbait. I appreciate it.
Hey thanks man!
German cars make more sense when you think about the mindsets of the people that built them. German car engineers expect their owners to be obsessed with maintenance- when you do every recommended maintenance item exactly on time, you have a lot less problems. And the engineers expect you to fix problems as soon as you start seeing the smallest symptoms, versus letting them get bad. Germans love fixing and maintaining their cars, it's a cultural thing. Now when you give a German car to Americans, they neglect them and aren't as rigorous with the maintenance, and that's where the problems arise. I treat every part on my BMW's as a regular maintenance item because I know that nothing lasts forever, and that attitude has worked out well for me, given that I've been daily driving old BMW's with over 200,000 miles without ever getting stranded.
I don't think that's what's really going on.
Danny's Garage what a crock of shit you said
I would agree.but do u have to be a bmw mechanic or can anyone learn how to maintain those engines?
That is exactly what is going on. Oil change after 5000 miles rather than the standard, any change in engine noise investigate and fix as the engines rarely change sound unless there is a problem. I suspect his one needs a water pump after watching the first video. He spoke about the engine noise and filling up the coolant. You wont know until its actually investigated. Danny has a good point. I have owned a few BMW's myself including the F30.
Anyways he should change the steering wheel to the sport and the cluster to the 6WB. Its adds to the cosmetics and you forget the steering feel issue.
My fiat was The most reliable car ever for 60,000 miles and then I was hit by a bus. I would never recommend a total stranger gauge my experience with my Fiat as a historical reference of reliability. I was lucky as most fiats Volkswagens BMWs are a nightmare to own past 5 years
Those negatives are very minor. I'm picking one of these up, they are great deals now
How many miles?
How much how many miles I just got 2013 m sport for 16k at 89k miles
@@idrive335 I seen a 2014 fir that many miles ... did u get extended warranty ?
Excellent video !!! Covered all the important stuff in great detail. Love your videos! Keep up The great work!!
The Start/Stop is an easy fix, you can program it though the ODB port (I used the Carista adapter and app for mine), so the key fob will save your setting.
Nice review as someone who just bought a 2015 335i as a daily driver. Really enjoying it!
Thank you for pointing out the “twin turbo” conundrum. Glad somebody knows the difference
When I was buying my X1, the salesman tried to tell me that it had a twin turbo lol I tried to correct him but he didn’t wanna believe me smh
mujjuman it's a twin power smh stupid salesman's
Malc B yeah man it’s a twin scroll single turbo which BMW called “twin power”. I tried explaining this to the salesman but he didn’t believe me and thought I was stupid
Great for content!!! Theres a ton of stuff to do!! I'm stoked for you the n55 is a great platform. Start with M sport front and rear bumpers then suspension!!!
Two things about the auto start/stop:
1. If you want to keep it active, you can temporarily override the function by moving the shift lever over to manual. Then you'll stay in S1/M1 gear if, say, you're waiting for a gap in traffic to turn left.
2. If you want to defeat it permanently and you don't have the skills to code, you can get a Carly OBD port connector which will do it for you.
I drive the ZF 8 speed in manual most of the time, so I'm rarely surprised by an unexpected engine off. We have some pretty long stoplights around where I live, so I keep the function enabled and leave the car in Drive when the oil's hot and I'm driving from red light to red light.
Looking forward to the "it gets tuned" eventual video.
It's in the works!
you have to do bench unlock I think, if not then go right to MHD and FBO. Easy 400 HP
Mike don’t get Cobb unless you get a pro tune MHD is much better
Great Channel... Had to subscribe... Keep it up!
The best way to get sport steering without sacrificing fuel economy is putting the gear in "manual" and using the paddles/lever. I do it all the time.
The auto start/stop can be coded to remember the last setting, so it will stay off. You can do it via the Carly or BimmerCode apps.
I just picked up a 2014 335 sport line and im also blown away by the transmission, and ive driven manual for the past 8 years.
I have a 2013 328i, ZSL, ZPP, 6MT, that I got new-to-me that had 34K miles and in 2 1/2 years now has 73K miles on it. I have been very pleased with it overall. My car doesn't have the lighting package, or the parking package. The stock halogen lights are absolutely terrible, arguably even dangerously terrible. I have added Sylvania H7 Ultrastar bulbs, which has improved it a bit, and I installed a Bimmer Tech rear camera kit to address backing up.
I share your issues about steering and auto-stop-start. To be charitable, the steering feel is subtle, and in a turn I have no idea what the front tires are doing. My start-up ritual is: push start, push disable auto stop start, put it in sport mode. I would enjoy having it coded out someday. The N20 has good power and torque, good fuel economy, but lacks the wonderful sounds of BMW inline sixes. The injector clatter makes it sound like a diesel at idle.
The 8AT ZF is a great automatic, to be sure, and, from having service loaners, I have experienced what you do when putting the car in Sport. Later F30s allow you to customize though i-Drive the settings for each system. Still , selecting a manual saves you all that. I drive in sport mode 99% of the time, the setting where it feels more like a proper BMW, and I don't have to fiddle with settings.
In sum, as you conclude, the F30 is great daily driver that will give you some fun, good fuel economy, and a comfortable, dare I say, luxurious ride when you need it.
I have a 335i and the best way to have sport steering while maintaining fuel economy is by throwing it into manual and shift it up to the 8th gear.
Solid review! My brother and I are about to buy some german rides. Him a f30 335i like yours, and myself a 2011 135i! The n55 is a pretty awesome engine!
I just bought a 2013 Audi RS5 and am dealing with a similar love-hate. Its almost all love though!
Very good video,thanks
My 2014 F32 435i keeps the auto start/stop in the mode you had it in even after the ignition is switched off. Glad they made that change, although I think they did a pretty good job with the system itself. It starts back up quickly and doesn’t shudder like other cars out there.
Think the Euro cars will return back to "start/stop on" because of our stupid emision systems.
Bmw is really noticeable to me
Great review! Can you please tell us how the steering and handling compare to your 235?
They are still trying to figure out that oil gasket -- seems to be the eternal problem. Also it's noteworthy to point out that the 2012 is the first iteration of the new design and may have some bugs to work out
Nice video man my 2016 F30 and 2017 X1 remembers to keep auto stop/start off.
I feel like the M240 is a great car similar to the M3. Haven’t driven the M2 yet
i had a n54 335 and it was amazing. got the f30 435 because i dont want to drive a manual anymore and have been a happier person ever since. getting stuck in traffic with manual is no fun. The f30 truly has no feel, it is less pleasurable come pare to my e90, but indeed it is a faster far.
Hi,
I have an F30 328i manual. Base suspension. I agree with you on most points. I believe you have credibility on this because you also owned an E90 328i. I loved the E90. The 328i/330i in particular. I loved the feeling of the car, the way the steering felt, the compact dimensions of the car, and the high quality interior. With that car, you didn't need the sport package for it to handle well. The suspension was so finely tuned in that car. During the first months of ownership of the F30, I was disappointed with the car. It felt cheap to me, and it was missing all the things that made the E90 feel special. I was ready to get rid of it, and then I decided to take it out on a drive on some twisty backroads. I started to push the car. I began noticing how light the front end felt, how eager it was to change direction at higher speeds, and the steering. In sport mode at higher speeds, it begins talking to you. Now, I still have my complaints with the car. Interior doesn't feel as nice, the run flat tires suck, and the body roll at lower speeds is incredibly annoying. I realized, however, that even though the car isn't as special as it used to be, it still feels like a BMW. After driving a bunch of other cars with turbo 2 liter engines, I realized how smooth and brilliant the N20 is. It's all about perspective. Yes, it isn't as fun as the Alfa Giulia, but that car doesn't come with a stick. And driving stick is super important for me. Also, the stop start system does suck. Thx for you video!
i also own a f30 2012 320D and love it. its a manual 6 speed and have the option to drive it eco, normal or sport mode.
@EatSleepDrive The biggest improvement I had with my F30 is lighter wheels and better tires, communication, and grip goes up a lot, especially upsizing the front to >=245 section. It dropped over 45 pounds unsprung from just tires and wheels. I replaced the suspension with KW V2's at 55000 miles and the stock M sport dampers were totally spent, no rebound control left. I drive in Comfort all of the time, even on track. It feels way too artificial in sport mode, both throttle and steering. Get an eNet cable to make stop/start remember your last setting on start, and to enable Sport configuration (if desired).
As far as I know, the leaky oil filter housing has a TSB and would be a free dealer fix.
Great video. I bought the 2012 E92 335i M sport which I think has best of both worlds IMO: the new N55 engine BUT the legacy hydraulic power-steering and great steering feel. I also think the F30 seats are a step-back from the sport seats in E90/E92.
ESD, thanks for the great video! I've owned my very first and only BMW...a '13, 335i, M-Sport with DHP since late 2012 now with 89K miles. I would say the auto start stop was not an issue anymore after I had it coded to no auto stop start but I can I manually activate it if I wanted to (like when I'm running out of gas). To me the steering feel, weight and feedback is excellent in the Sport or Sport Plus mode with activated Chassis and Drivetrain setting with the auto ZF8 shifter in Sport (just a flick to the left) and with traditional tires (forget the run flats). It would have been awesome (perfect) if it could be permanently placed in that setting. My wife drives it too so she appreciates the comfort setting...we both happy :)
They're great cars. If i still had mine I would have done the coding as well to disable start stop. It's nice that's an option, I just never got around to it.
Hey man, I have the N26 F30. you can get the heavy steering by turning off DSC by holding the Traction Control button. Use at your own risk lol
The newer f30's about 14 or 13 and above auto start stop option selected is remembered
Correct, my 2013 remembers if I've turned auto start on/off
Sadly my 2013 does not :(
My old 2013 335i Coupe turned off the auto start/stop as well and it persisted. Also, not sure if you're aware of this but back in 2007 when the 335i Coupe and sedan came out, there were several car magazines that toad tested the car and also like you noticed that the car had significantly more HP and torque than the BMW claimed 300/300, A couple of magazines went and had the car dynoed and the HP/Torque "at the wheel" was like 336/325. BMW has always been conservative and understates its power figures. BMW also reports their 0-60 times slower than any other source and its usually at least 2/10 sec slower than ANY other source including the mainstream auto press. Speaking of 0-60, the manual transmission is almost half a second slower than the 8 speed auto. I used to be a diehard 6sp guy, but technology marched on, and so did I.
Lane Jones You marched your lazy ass to an auto. Driving is driving and the “ Ultimate Driving Machine” means left foot and right hand. Automatics are for fatties who wanna text and gobble burritos on their way to work. I can drop the clutch and push the front end into a corner or gas it and break the 265’s loose in the rear. Cause my 335 is a manual.
mhks68 Actually, I used to be that way, and would only consider manual cars. 4 of the last five Porsches were manuals, as well as my first two BMW's. I learned how to drive in the mountains of Colorado where we lived growing up. Berthoud pass was where I first learned heal toe and I only was interested in manuals. Then I got smart and noticed that manual cars, at least BMW's, are slower than their automatic equipped versions. By a not so insignificant amount either.. That was a wake call. Also, not that I'm paying attention to gas mileage, autos get better mileage. I'm interested in performance, and for that reason, I kissed manuals goodbye.
You can code the start/stop to be off with bimmercode
2015 328 xdrive here. Great one car daily driver and dad taxi with enough fun on tap when I want it. Glad my auto start stop remembers. Agree with your thoughts about sport mode and the transmission. My workaround if I want the eager throttle and heavier steering but I'm cruising? Once I'm up to speed, slide it over to manual mode and up shift to a comfortable cruising gear on my own. Only problem is when I forget I'm in manual mode, exit the freeway, and can't figure out why I"m at 7000 rpm gently accelerating in traffic LOL.
Great summary here. Such a great all around car, glad you're enjoying!
after 2013 BMW made all auto start stops more effective by keeping it off when turned off. in 2013 it will default back to on after every time you turn the car on. you can delete it with reprogramming the car like I did.
Great video! The thing is with the complaints the comfort to sport disparity is bmw try to do everything. I found living in comfort 90% of the time great and only turn to sort when I'm. By myself and want to drive. Most of the time comfort is enough passengers complain otherwise haha
On the 2015 model the auto stop stays off if you leave it that way, it only turns on if you put it on eco pro.
And I do agree with you on the steering of the car because sport mode gives you the best steering feel, it has that BMW hard steering feeling that my e93 had but as you said you lose MPG for no reason, I think a combo of comfort and sport would make this the absolute perfect car, having that throttle response and that nice sound coming out of the exhaust as well as the harder steering while keeping the comfort mode suspension setting would destroy Mercedes and Audi in competition but the fact that you can’t combine them makes me a little sad.
I currently own a 2015 328xi M sport and so far I’ve been extremely happy with it, I just need to sort some screeching with the breaks and I’m all set.
Being an owner of a 335i myself I agree with a lot of your points. But firmer suspension really? The car is already hard enough some times for the daily drive.
You can have Auto Start/Stop coded out to remember it is off when the car is turned off and back on. But, yeah, it should come that way from the factory
The dealer did this for me free of charge in a 535
Yes, my 2014 335i was obviously reflashed by the original owner. It would be incredibly annoying otherwise.
Yeah 'cuase that auto stop/start thing can wear out the motor.good to know u can get rid of it.thanks.
really? Have had mine with stop start not deactivated for over 5 years. I drive it daily and never had the motor wear out. not sure if anyone has complained of a worn out motor because of stop start.
@@MrSupermanbe additional load on alternator, battery and most important starter
About having to switch to Sport to get better steering weight, but at the same time putting you on a lower gear, does it let you change up manually at least?
I personally have a dual clutch and never use Normal mode because it shifts too smoothly it's said to wear out the gearbox quicker. In Sport mode, it does stay at a certain gear when it could use the next one up, but it allows me to shift by myself to put it at the right cog.
You can manual shift the car, but it will go back to auto in 30 seconds or so. When you push the "gear leaver" to the left it will keep the gears (will shift down to prevent stalls or overrevs).
personally, I like the different driving mode because if I am driving with other people in the car (parents) I like to keep it on comfort and when I drive on my own I put it in Sport+.
Related to turning of the start/stop permanently you should check whether this can be done via the OBD. I have myself for my F10 a program called Carly in which there is such option. Runs via bluetooth to my phone. Love your channel btw.
I need to look into this but it's stupid it can't be done from factory IMO. Thanks for the kind words btw!
I've owned f30 in sport line and msport. I despise the donut balloon steering wheel in the sport line, but like the red trimming.
You can EASILY code the car to have it remember your auto start/stop setting. For example if you turn it off it’ll be off the next time you start your car and vice versa
Confession time. I came across your channel through your BMW M240I because it is one of those cars I would love to really have . I love BMW so thank you for this. Keep updating ! What ever did you do with that 500 dollar five series you took for the crazy tournament?
Thanks for the kind words! As for the 7 series, it's rotting in a field right now lol. We'll see if it makes a come back.
Why is this a confession?
Yea bro they added it. I have a 2013 328 and I drive in sports minus the sporty drivetrain. I can adjust it how I like.
Came for the F30, stayed for the Leopard Trek shirt. 👍
Lol just saw that. Trek segafredo now
In 2016 model theres no turn off when standing "feature" turning on again problems 🤷🏽♀️
My Mazda 6 has auto stop too, they call it Istop. Annoying af. I just wedge a piece of paper between the button and hold it down , now Everytime car starts it automatically turns Istop off 😂
Oh damn good idea. I own an Audi A3 quattro and I do believe I can wedge a piece of paper too.
Edit: Nope, doesn't work.😭
It just resets back on when I turn the car off then on again.
Great videos. You convinced me to buy my 2012 335i Convertible last year. Your interior/dash looks a lot different, and I’m only getting 19-20mpg. If I have a 2012, does that mean I have the N55 engine and it’s an F30? Last question, what phone apps do you recommend for update car systems? Thanks!
E92 Generation
Most likely a N55 engine
This video is helping me decide which car to buy next. I was stuck at a point where I am not certain to go with the e90 335 or f30 335. I had the n54 335 and I loved it to the core (except for the repairs). I never planned to sell it though. Got into a wreck and totaled the car. Now I can’t get past the addiction and I am mentally stuck to the 335 or M3. But the M3s are a little over my budget. So with all the feedback about the f30 I am going to go with the 2011 335 (N55) E90 M sport with a manual this time, and not have to compromise with the dumb steering feel and lack of stiffness with the springs of the F30. I liked how my sport 2010 335 was and want that feeling at the very least. I am 100% confident that I made the right decision. I don’t need all the new tech stuff anyways.
E90 with an N55 is a great combo. Best of both worlds. Enjoy!
2013 f30 has the option to configure drive modes
To those looking for a more recent opinion - I bought a 2012 335i Sport package on Dec 2020, car had 90k km now with 92k. Pre purchase inspection found no issues at all, no leaking on valve cover, oil pan or oil filter housing leaks, not even sign of issues. Overall the car was driven less than 10k/year since purchase. The only problem is that I broke the steering rack when I lift the car using the jack, it slip from the support lifting point and hit the base of the rack. The real break lamps tend to burn out constantly. car has PLENTY of power, and it has been reliable so far. I do expect the water pump and thermostat to tap out soon, but its an easy fix that cost around 300USD if you replace it yourself. Smooth engine pretty comfortable, and YEAH do purchase a sport package for the seats.
If you just out the car in manual mode you can get the fuel economy back when in sport mode.
I’ve owned my CPO 2013 335i for 4 years, I’ve only had minor issues, must just be luck of the draw. But I also maintain the car meticulously.
Hi, I'm curious: what's the deal with number plates? Is it ok to drive a car with EU plates?
A BMW 3 series touring with a big engine is a top choice for everyone who can only afford one car and wants to have a practical, sports/-ish car that looks good and runs as well as it runs long.
Lol, i'm in Brazil and have a 2014's 335i which in my country is considered a high-standartd-overpriced-car, but i do have the same loves and hates that you mentioned in this video... thats a relief ! and yes, i'm putting this car at least on a Stage 1 with remap just because i think the m3 is too much and i consider a 335i a better daily driver
I have a 2015 3 series gt m sport and the auto start stops is always off for me
I suggest you testdrive the LCI F30. BMW addresses almost all of your nitpicks across the board. Steering is significantly improved, the chassis and suspension have all been enhanced (less bodyroll, lower centre of gravity etc), ride quality has improved, there's a ton of cosmetic changes like the new LED headlights (which has translated to other models like the new 5 series and 8 series) that make the car even more timeless, not to mention the new B48 and B58 engines are outstanding with more power down low in the rev range (and with better fuel economy). The F30 has the best reliability versus all previous 3 series (visit the forums...its been out for 6 years + and nothing crazy or major issues like the E90 generation) so while you may like previous gen models, they will produce more mechanics issues = more $$$ out of your pocket. Food for thought .
I drive a 2016 F31 340i M and do completely agree with you.
The steering sucks big time. No feel at all! I had never a car where i felt so disconnected with everything as this one.
I also agree on the limited options of customization.
One thing i don't agree is the ZF. I don't like it. In Comfort mode it's to slow and the engine is not really responsive and in Sport mode it's not really fast either but hammers the gears that the whole car unsettles for a moment. Not my liking at all.
What is indeed very good (for a Turbo) is the engine (in my case the B58) it really has lots of torque low down and delivers all the way until the red line. The engine surprised me actually, i didn't expect it to be so good.
000GunterGabriel000 I agree the B58 is such an amazing engine
Then get the M3 ?
I need a wagon and the M3 isn't available as wagon. Only alternative is RS4.
000GunterGabriel000 ..what year?
Malc B 2018
Sounds like your complaint about the drive modes (RPM, fuel economy) would be fixed by a manual transmission. And the dealer coded mine to remember the setting for auto start/stop after turning off/on the car. It used to bug me a lot when I got the car, totally used to it now, maybe you can give it some time.
Interesting about the start stop. The m4 keeps your setting I leave it off nvr had to turn it off again
I think after a year or two they realized it was a dumb idea and fixed it in the later years.
Unfortunately no. 2016 still has it.
auto start stop doesn't reset on my 2012 bmw 335i f30. Did they software patch it?
Seems decently reliable.
What I want to know, is, does the F30 REALLY feel "loose" and not buttoned-down in the Chassis like everyone is saying on RUclips compared to the e90? I can live with the Electric Steering as long as there's some feel, but I've heard these F30's feel like Lincolns compared to the older Generations of 3-Series.
I don’t know if I believe you on the mpg. I’ve got a 15’ 228i and I average 20mpg on about 60/40 city highway. Mines the 2.0t so I can’t imagine yours getting better gas mileage. I do live in so cal with hills and such but that’s a huge difference.
There’s a way I shut off my auto shut off, by placing it in sport mode. When you do that you’ll never have to worry about that.
With a manual, the F30 only temporarily stops the engine if you're stopped AND in neutral. I can coose when I want in on or off. As for wanting sportmode without loosing MPG, its a manual. I can shift to whatever gear I want no matter the mode, so I get the sound and steering AND can get 30 MPG. Violà.
Bro my 2011 328i x drive only gets like 19 mpg:/
The oil leak... Issue one... Limp mode is coming. Something with the fuel system. Down to 2k rpm tow times
Sport and Sport+ do not allow 8th gear use. Aggravating as hell with no excuse
You are correct; any BMW without M Sport seats might as well be another Corvette or Mustang seat.
Automatic engine shut down upon stop can be programmed off so the default is engine always on. EPA is to thank for the stock configuration.
Max Nix maybe because the 8th is overdrive.
why so many dislikes, this guy is absolutely right...
you must not have xdrive correct ? There's no way 28mpg can be on a 335i with xdrive.
E82, E90 would give you most of what you like about the F30 minus the 8-speed of course.
Michael Cohen and the fresh design
For less
The E90's ride quality is horrific and there are tons of mechanical issues. Not to mention the car design has aged poorly and its probably one of the uglier 3 series ever made. Oh and they're slow as hell versus the F30 across the range.
They changed that auto start and stop in 2015 I have a 328 and it stays actually
No paddles???
Why does it have a European plate?
I like your shirt.
I HATE the auto start-stop feature. How much gas is it really saving? I can't imagine all the start-stop-start cycles are good for the engine.
Spartan Buff i believe it’s electric, but dnt take my word for it Scotty Kilmer has a video on it
I would think the stop and auto start feature actually puts more wear and tear on the car. There should be an option to turn it off completely.
I used to get 25 mpg from my e38 740il when it was newer. Unfortunately it was unreliable as it got older and the fuel economy declined, it sprang leaks and the transmission started to slip. I don't think the driving pleasure makes up for the frustration of having to fix something broken every week. No, I'm too old for that. I'd rather spend my weekends playing golf, or tennis or relaxing by the pool.
Raphael I had a used E38 740iL also, and your comment resonates with me. I’m older now and have different priorities. Can you believe it? My next car will be a hybrid lmao
Lol I hate the auto start feature, and the steering!
Review starts at about 2:00
Just got my first BMW, also 2012 335i convertible with only 25k miles, but it has those "M" sport logos, which in have no idea what they mean. Anyhow, it's a beautiful car, clean, and has the most pick up I've ever felt.
So, the morning after it arrived (yesterday) a warning declared low tire pressure, but when I checked the TPM page, it showed all 4 tires were low, so I topped them all off and reset the TPM. Anyhow, 4 hours later the low tire pressure came on again, and 10 min later a rear tire went flat, and two other tires were low? What gives?
Is there system that regulates tire pressure, in addition to monitoring it? Thanks in advance, even for the unique replies...
The internal system only monitors the tire pressure, it has no way of regulating it. If the tires keep going low you definitely have a physical leak somewhere. Have a tire shop take a look. Could be a puncture or maybe it's just a leaky valve stem.
@@EatSleepDrive Thanks
🔥🔥🔥
turbo straight six right? what kind of power and torque will you get with a tune?
Next weeks video will have all the details with full dyno numbers before and after the tune. 👍
why not test the better version - the 340i Msport with B58 engine? Over two years in production
How did you get your fuel economy that well? Mine only gets around 22-24
I have a 2013 335i M Sport package
the 2014-2015 sport line have the option to tune up the sport mode , steering-chassis-engine and transmission
Suppose to get a rebuilt 2016 328i for 13,200 next weekend in excellent condition...wish me luck with it...it's my first BMW
Dont buy that lol
Why not ?
Dude Toyota is the way to go. I would rather get a 2016 scion tc. It will perform well and be a reliable car and I think it looks better too.
Health & Wellness toyota its for old ppl. In europe not much toyotas as its the hype in US. But i hear that bmw,mercedes, audis etc are not the same quality as in europe.i better buy french car then a toyota ore hondas
Health & Wellness if you think Toyota are somehow more reliable than a BMW within the last ten years, think again. Go take a look at some of the consumer reports rankings of BMW's vs Toyota during that time frame. Honda on the other hand, was fined in Jan 2016 by the federal government the largest allowable fine they could impose on an automaker, twice, for a total of $70 million. One fine ($35 million) was for under-reporting the number of mechanical problems that new Honda owners were reporting to dealerships, for the previous 11 years, but Honda management in Tokyo purposefully withheld the problems from our Fed. Govt. The second $35M fine was for Honda underreporting the number of deaths in their cars for the same previous 11 years. Don't buy into the Honda reliability hype because it's simply not true! This year they were ranked way down at like #18 in consumer reports auto brands reliability, whereas BMW was #2 or #3
How is the steering compared to the m235i? I'm curious because it's also an electric steering...
The M235i's is significantly better.
Get a E90 or E92 335i, steering is hydraulic providing excellent feedback compared with new BMW's. Or just get a 135i.
EatSleepDrive I'm shocked you got this BMW. It's a larger much less drivers car than your short owned M235i; yes same N55 engine and ZF 8 speed but that's it! I loved my M235i but sold it for a different driving experience in a new Fiesta ST; the ST's steering feedback is so much better IMO.
I disagree with the steering, the steering wheel needs a lot of setting because remember it’s not just you there are drivers that hate stiff mode and people who hate too soft modes and BMW solves it that way. Thank god BMW sells the 3 series for that reason things are adjustable but I agree on the rest.
Hey, very nice video I liked it. But there are a few things I would like to point it.. Fact number one is you compare a 3 series family-sedan to a (e46) M3, a car that is made to be driven crazy. Because of all the driver settings, they are trying to make this car for more users. Like new drivers, sporty drivers, old people etc. And number two is if you want a car (especially German cars) to be nice to you, you have to be nice to them :D
They definitely require more care and feeding and, you're right, don't deal with neglect well.
I used to own this car, fast but not fun enough so I changed it to the Porshe 911
I hate auto stop but I think you can code that to shut it off
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALY???? ...I was getting only 24.5 m/gallon on my '15 328ix that was mostly highway - is the xDrive? ...anyways I just traded it in that POS granny-car for an X3 (wife's daily) and think of getting into a used 340i M-sport or AR Giulia RWD...thoughts?
VoyT xDrive or virtually any other AWD drive-train makes the car heavier and reduces fuel economy as compared to a RWD or FWD drive-train.
Your being pretty nit-picky about the things you hate about the car. For example, you love the fuel economy - well, the auto start-stop feature of the engine contributed to that 28 mpg rating. Why is adaptive headlights a mind blowing thing in 2018?? My 2007 Lexus GS had them!
340i fixes a lot of your complaints except probably the steering feel.
Bro all that u mentioned can be coded with Carly Or go to Professional who ask for 10-15$ per coding thats it!
Sounds like the 2 biggest problems can easily be coded out. Party on