G'day Jonathan your a good man doing this car for your wife, I do remember you saying you didn't want to fix it up , but your wife always liked them .This car is coming along real well,once you have fixed the rust in it , and got it running smooth , it will be a nice little run around ,cool to go along with it ! Mal
Well you are doing a great job. I know a man in Missouri who restores STUDBREAKERS. He does have a few of different types of these cars and trucks. Thanks for sharing your rebuilding skills.
Love that Studebaker when I was a kid our friends grandparents had one exactly like it I was a mechanic most of my life protect your hands Jonathan mine are really bad shape now
Wow, you are making some good progress. Keep it up. I'm glad that you could find the parts you needed. Some friends with antique cars had to have the master cylinders and wheel cylinders bored out and have sleeves installed. I know that they had new linings applied to the old shoes too. I've wondered if worn out brake drums could have metal flame sprayed to them then turned to have a proper thickness of metal.
Sir You have done such a wonderful job with you videos! Your running description shows a lifetime of experience and common sense. My 53 Chevy truck has sat for several years (something's got to give when your earning a living I'd like to say but the truth is probably closer to pure laziness lol) but I'm now enthused to get it going again after watching the built nose progress. You may or may not have an understanding of the effect of your videos but my 53 Chevy is progressing nicely due to your introduction. Keep them comming,!! Bob Mason El Paso, TX
I watch for your posts daily seeing stuff I never thought I would ever see again. The grease threw me, I ain't' never run across that before. I think you are leaning hard to finish and have confidence that you will, so surprised that you matched up a tank as close as you did. All the metal fabing looks top stuff. Running lines and what not has to wear a man down a trifle. Fabulous
Protect and preserve is the only reason I can see to grease up the brakes like that. Whoever did it knew the car wouldn’t move again for a long time. Can’t wait for the first drive. Another great video.
You've done more on this car in the what.. 2 weeks? that you've owned it than I have on my truck that ive had for almost 3 years. lol. But in fairness I drove it home so it started in a bit better shape. I love how the work is coming together on this Studebaker. I love that thing. If I didn't have funds tied up into trying to get a garage built here on the property i'd probably make you an offer on it.
He drove it home ... It just happen to be on the bed of his rollback...lol Can relate with funds being tied up... only mine go to the wife's trips or camping ( I think it's so I won't bring another project car home...lol) Good luck on your shop
I remember when I was a kid, 12-13, a man greased the breaks on a pickup that was going to sit for a long time so they wouldn't freeze up. It was stored outside covered. Never saw it on the road but I know it was 15 years later.
Looking forward to tomorrow's video! Those cam adjuster brakes reminded me of a 61 Dodge I had back in the 60s. It had cam adjuster brakes, too. The fronts actually had two separate wheel cylinders and the shoes and cylinders were staggered, not left/right or front/rear. The primary shoe & cyl was at about the 7 or 8:00 o'clock position and the secondary shoe and cylinder was about the 1 or 2:00 o'clock position and there was a short steel brake line connecting the two cylinders inside the drum. Not the easiest system to balance, one side always wanted to pull when braking but the cam adjusters were much nicer than the standard star wheel type!
Another great video! Yes, those brake adjusters are different to us today, and the "automatic" adjusters were probably really advanced in 1951. It may be of interest that that type adjuster is used today on RV trailer brakes, even though they are much different mechanically, being electrically operated. Great work, showing your versatility!
Those brakes are similar to the Bendix Self-Centering brakes used on Willys wagons and pickups. Once you get the hang of adjusting them they're fine. Some folks just have a little trouble with the cam type adjusters. I always put a small dab of grease on the backing plate contact points as well the lower anchor point on the shoes. I believe the Master Cylinder is also shared with the Willys and maybe Kaiser-Frazer vehicles. I'm waiting for the next episode of the Bullet Nose Adventure. I can hardly wait for the Overdrive. Thanks for sharing.
Jonathan, gee, looks like you got a lot done on that Stude. Interesting how the front brakes are set up, the adjusters. You're really rockin'n & a rollin!!!!!! Keep up the great work!!!@
The trailing shoe on the 1950 has an automatic brake adjuster in the form of the brass pin sticking through the shoe. It is critical that the self adjuster remains in place and needs to be replaced at every brake job due to the fact that it is in constant contact with the drum.
Yeah, I'm in agreement with you, someone just wanted to stop the drums from getting seized with rust. That eccentric system for adjusters, hadn't seen that one before.
Interesting master cylinder that was in the car. Have not seen an aluminum one like that in any of my Studebakers that have the master cylinder under the floor. You are doing a good job on this car........and you are quick too!
I think the grease was applied by a kid. Dear old dad was replacing the brakes, and packing the bearings. Dad went to work the next morning, and 6 year old son decided he would help dad, and put grease on everything.
Hey Jonathan! I'm watching from the Raleigh Area and am always on the lookout for your rollback! I will say hi if I ever see you! I hope you get to test drive this before the rain hits this weekend!
My uncle had a 74 HT Holden which would be close to a 74 Monte Carlo and he greased his drums when he parked it up cos the pads were new and he expected either me or my cousin to learn on it and wanted to preserve them since they were all brand new. Which was why he put them on it, he just wanted to keep them close to enough to good when the time came, and it worked, he so oiled the bushes loosed the leafs and put the seals and copper gaskets in a lubed up plastic bag. Now the thing runs like pretty good. I'm gona add a leaf spring and put a 308 in it I may eve Chang the brakes to a piston set up, it does have air shoes on the rear but will climb that mountain when I get there.
My dad used to put grease insode brum brake hubs when he would leave cars sitting so that the pads would not rust to the hub if they needed to be moved later on.
Eric O. of South Main Auto will have a Taylor-made solution for that grease in the brake drum!😃 ...Maybe they used the grease because the brakes were squeaking!😛 Oh, and BTW thank you for posting this, giving us something to watch. I almost feel like i am there helping you with the decision-making.
The comments about chatter and howling brakes are interesting concerning the greasy shoes. Possibly the unturned drums would increase chatter or grabbing and grease allowed break in. No cotter pins would lead me to think they intended to return as well. I've never seen it either. Only the previous owner or mechanic can really solve the mystery. Thanks for sharing
about 20 yrs a relative bought four oldsmobiles at an estate sale, a 55, 65, 75, and 85 all original and 1 owner, as the story goes the old man who owned them bought a new car every 10 yrs weather he needed it or not then had his old car put in long term storage, not sure of the reason, maybe as a sort of retirement fund, it took very little to get them running to resell them, but something i found odd was he had completely filled the engines with oil, i think he hoped to preserve the engines by doing so.
Jonathan,,, Hey guy, You might want to Change the "Blinker Fluid" while your at it....lol OL' Gals looking better and better.....Can't wait till you test drive her....
Never seen brake adjusters like that...those adjuster cams & that pivot arm is where the grease needed to be (my thinking)...we had this black grease called 'crater' that we used on the Page draglines (walking machine) that looked like roofing tar (needed gasoline to get it off) - that's what l'd lay on those adjusters, pivot arm, inside & out & points in between...this car will stop just fine...after l got past the brake part, those lower control arms (length) was the next thing to hit my face - car should offer up a good ride & excellent visibility...50,000 miles? I'd drive it 150,000 miles the way you've been wrenching/building on it...drove an R model Mack's to the moon and back
Old timers did this so they could always move the car, when they knew that they weren't going to get to the car for a longtime. Why they would do that to new brakes is beyond me.Great luck for you.
Awesome as always!! 👍👍👍👍 I really don’t know how you keep up with everything! And I hate to ask you about the drag car because of all your projects. Best honest channel on RUclips!!!!
Hi! Man, your video output is great. Great progress is shown also. Please allow me one suggestion respectively advice: Please don't use the grease soaked brake shoes! This will definitely cause safety issues/problems. Thanks a lot for making taping editing uploading and sharing.
My 52 Ford got a duo master cylinder kit as I knew it would. Increase the stoping power, And add to safety. You lucky the nut didn't come off. Keep it up fine business om
I've noticed with quite a few of these barn/garage/field find cars that there's very little to, at the time, nothing really wrong with them when parked. About 25 years ago, a woman sold her son's car that had been kept in her garage for many years. I live in Canada so, the story was a bit odd. She moved to Canada from the States and brought the car with her. She couldn't let go of it at the time. Her son had gone MIA in Vietnam. The car was a 63 split window Vette. Got me thinking, just how many of these cars with similar stories are actually out there?
Good video Jonathan,i do agree with Mr Jones concerning protecting your hands,i worked with JP5 in the navy,an air force friend of mine worked with hydraulics,that grease and fluids getting absorbed into your hands (and body)can cause you trouble in years to come,not preaching sir,just a word of caution,be careful out in your wrecker service,looking forward to the next video.
Do you find that you have to replace the hard brake line or do you just flush and use the old ones. I'm sure you replace the flex hose between the wheel and frame.
The brake shoes were probably riveted on with too think of material. they put grease on them to hopefully wear them in without getting hot. I know, it sounds funny, but people did crazy things trying to get by.
The grease is on the pads because back then the old drum brakes when you applied the brakes the drum would vibrate and howl. So, you put a small amount on the edge where the top of the pad was bonded to the steel. As the pad wore a small amount of grease went with it. No more howl. Look at the 53 and 54 Chevy. They had a spring around the drum. That was Chevy's way to keep the drums from vibrating and howling when the brakes were applied. Yours has way too much grease. Too much will contaminate the pad.
I always saw pop's do that on his cars and trucks, but didn't know why.... with pop's "young'n" were not aloud in the shop..so we'd stand at the entrance and watch him do his magic and hear some exploits that would have made grams and mom blush....lol
Johnathan , I Have A Long Shot Guess to the Grease on the Brakes . Maybe So the Car Would Roll Easier and or Not Seize Together . They Must Not Have Been Able to Finish the Brake Job. Knowledge or Money?
G'day Jonathan your a good man doing this car for your wife, I do remember you saying you didn't want to fix it up , but your wife always liked them .This car is coming along real well,once you have fixed the rust in it , and got it running smooth , it will be a nice little run around ,cool to go along with it ! Mal
Love watching you bring back “my” car. Such memories. Everyone It town knew that bullet nose. Ha ha
Test drive tomorrow.
Yay!
Enjoying this series of videos a lot.
Thanks.
looking great!!! cant wait for the test drive!!!!!!! you are very dedicated!!!!!!! take care!!!!!
Well you are doing a great job. I know a man in Missouri who restores STUDBREAKERS. He does have a few of different types of these cars and trucks. Thanks for sharing your rebuilding skills.
Can't wait to see the old girl on the road again great job as always
I really look forward to your videos, I learn something from every one of them. Thanks Jonathan.
Appreciate your approach to reviving these old cars, great to watch JW, many thanks.
Great work Jonathan, love your sense of humor. You would fit right in in Australia.
Love that Studebaker when I was a kid our friends grandparents had one exactly like it I was a mechanic most of my life protect your hands Jonathan mine are really bad shape now
Wow, you are making some good progress. Keep it up. I'm glad that you could find the parts you needed. Some friends with antique cars had to have the master cylinders and wheel cylinders bored out and have sleeves installed. I know that they had new linings applied to the old shoes too. I've wondered if worn out brake drums could have metal flame sprayed to them then turned to have a proper thickness of metal.
Im loving these Studebaker videos, first drive sounds like fun.
So good to watch these videos. I'd rather watch Jonathan than network tv!
Sir
You have done such a wonderful job with you videos! Your running description shows a lifetime of experience and common sense. My 53 Chevy truck has sat for several years (something's got to give when your earning a living I'd like to say but the truth is probably closer to pure laziness lol) but I'm now enthused to get it going again after watching the built nose progress. You may or may not have an understanding of the effect of your videos but my 53 Chevy is progressing nicely due to your introduction.
Keep them comming,!!
Bob Mason
El Paso, TX
Great work Jonathan
My favorite RUclips channel
I watch for your posts daily seeing stuff I never thought I would ever see again. The grease threw me, I ain't' never run across that before. I think you are leaning hard to finish and have confidence that you will, so surprised that you matched up a tank as close as you did. All the metal fabing looks top stuff. Running lines and what not has to wear a man down a trifle. Fabulous
Looking forward to see the first drive!
Even though I am older that you. I wish I had a friend like you going up
Another good video, Thanks for taking the time to explain stuff. Looking forward to a drive. Cheers
That wrecker stuff is cutting into your fun time.
I think while he's towin stuff, he's hunting for new stuff to bring home.. it's a win win
Your boss lady has saw the potential of you fixing up that car for her mothers day gift !
Protect and preserve is the only reason I can see to grease up the brakes like that. Whoever did it knew the car wouldn’t move again for a long time. Can’t wait for the first drive. Another great video.
You've done more on this car in the what.. 2 weeks? that you've owned it than I have on my truck that ive had for almost 3 years. lol. But in fairness I drove it home so it started in a bit better shape. I love how the work is coming together on this Studebaker. I love that thing. If I didn't have funds tied up into trying to get a garage built here on the property i'd probably make you an offer on it.
He drove it home ... It just happen to be on the bed of his rollback...lol
Can relate with funds being tied up... only mine go to the wife's trips or camping ( I think it's so I won't bring another project car home...lol)
Good luck on your shop
Amazing how much work you have done in such a short time. Can't wait to see it on the road again. I think you are starting to really like this car!
Can't wait to see this car drive. Love the videos you do keep up the good work.
I remember when I was a kid, 12-13, a man greased the breaks on a
pickup that was going to sit for a long time so they wouldn't freeze up.
It was stored outside covered.
Never saw it on the road but I know it was 15 years later.
damn man you run a wrecker service and post a video almost everyday You Rock as long as your posting ill be watching and sharing your channel
Looking forward to tomorrow's video! Those cam adjuster brakes reminded me of a 61 Dodge I had back in the 60s. It had cam adjuster brakes, too. The fronts actually had two separate wheel cylinders and the shoes and cylinders were staggered, not left/right or front/rear. The primary shoe & cyl was at about the 7 or 8:00 o'clock position and the secondary shoe and cylinder was about the 1 or 2:00 o'clock position and there was a short steel brake line connecting the two cylinders inside the drum. Not the easiest system to balance, one side always wanted to pull when braking but the cam adjusters were much nicer than the standard star wheel type!
Dear America, please send more classic American cars, cheers, New Zealand
Good progress Jon, as always, thanks for the video
thumbs up and hoping the first test drive goes well. That STUDEBAKER is going to be mine
Another great video! Yes, those brake adjusters are different to us today, and the "automatic" adjusters were probably really advanced in 1951. It may be of interest that that type adjuster is used today on RV trailer brakes, even though they are much different mechanically, being electrically operated. Great work, showing your versatility!
Those brakes are similar to the Bendix Self-Centering brakes used on Willys wagons and pickups. Once you get the hang of adjusting them they're fine. Some folks just have a little trouble with the cam type adjusters. I always put a small dab of grease on the backing plate contact points as well the lower anchor point on the shoes. I believe the Master Cylinder is also shared with the Willys and maybe Kaiser-Frazer vehicles. I'm waiting for the next episode of the Bullet Nose Adventure. I can hardly wait for the Overdrive. Thanks for sharing.
All these years I had it wrong, I was supposed to put the grease on the brake pads!
Greasing the clutch plate is also a good idea.
@@davidpringle8089 Yeah and right after that get a good coat on your windshield:-)
Don't forget the other items like blinker fluid - maybe they didn't use it on old cars lol.
I'm plenty long of tooth and have done many restorations in a similar fashion...... true hot rodding.
Jonathan, gee, looks like you got a lot done on that Stude. Interesting how the front brakes are set up, the adjusters. You're really rockin'n & a rollin!!!!!! Keep up the great work!!!@
shes looking good
The trailing shoe on the 1950 has an automatic brake adjuster in the form of the brass pin sticking through the shoe. It is critical that the self adjuster remains in place and needs to be replaced at every brake job due to the fact that it is in constant contact with the drum.
Wake up Jonathon! I wanna take a ride in the Stud-e-baker!
Great job. Keep up the great vidios
Yeah, I'm in agreement with you, someone just wanted to stop the drums from getting seized with rust. That eccentric system for adjusters, hadn't seen that one before.
'60's Chrysler's had those style of drums. Hard to adjust so it did't change lanes on ya.
Looking good so far
They did the grease to keep the brake shoes from freezing up to drum
Somebody refused to pay for brake job.
@@Rolingmetal The man he bought it from had a shop, so I don't think he was the type who needed to pay for much of any work.
Yes
Interesting master cylinder that was in the car. Have not seen an aluminum one like that in any of my Studebakers that have the master cylinder under the floor. You are doing a good job on this car........and you are quick too!
Interesting presentation
Awesome video Jonathan.
I think the grease was applied by a kid. Dear old dad was replacing the brakes, and packing the bearings. Dad went to work the next morning, and 6 year old son decided he would help dad, and put grease on everything.
Hey Jonathan! I'm watching from the Raleigh Area and am always on the lookout for your rollback! I will say hi if I ever see you! I hope you get to test drive this before the rain hits this weekend!
My uncle had a 74 HT Holden which would be close to a 74 Monte Carlo and he greased his drums when he parked it up cos the pads were new and he expected either me or my cousin to learn on it and wanted to preserve them since they were all brand new. Which was why he put them on it, he just wanted to keep them close to enough to good when the time came, and it worked, he so oiled the bushes loosed the leafs and put the seals and copper gaskets in a lubed up plastic bag.
Now the thing runs like pretty good.
I'm gona add a leaf spring and put a 308 in it I may eve Chang the brakes to a piston set up, it does have air shoes on the rear but will climb that mountain when I get there.
Great video and what a car !
My dad used to put grease insode brum brake hubs when he would leave cars sitting so that the pads would not rust to the hub if they needed to be moved later on.
Eric O. of South Main Auto will have a Taylor-made solution for that grease in the brake drum!😃 ...Maybe they used the grease because the brakes were squeaking!😛 Oh, and BTW thank you for posting this, giving us something to watch. I almost feel like i am there helping you with the decision-making.
Great work Loving this car
Looking real good Jonathan keep up the good work
The comments about chatter and howling brakes are interesting concerning the greasy shoes. Possibly the unturned drums would increase chatter or grabbing and grease allowed break in. No cotter pins would lead me to think they intended to return as well. I've never seen it either. Only the previous owner or mechanic can really solve the mystery. Thanks for sharing
Good job Jonathan and another great video as normal Jonathan keep them coming from Andy in UK
Looking good those are different brake adjusters. Thanks for showing them.. Hope you get it going iI ran wreckers for 9 years i feel your pain.
The Stud is almost ready!
Looking good Jonathan your wife will be riding in style she's a lucky lady
Good job as usual.
Great as usual man. Thanks
Awesome
about 20 yrs a relative bought four oldsmobiles at an estate sale, a 55, 65, 75, and 85 all original and 1 owner, as the story goes the old man who owned them bought a new car every 10 yrs weather he needed it or not then had his old car put in long term storage, not sure of the reason, maybe as a sort of retirement fund, it took very little to get them running to resell them, but something i found odd was he had completely filled the engines with oil, i think he hoped to preserve the engines by doing so.
My old Jeep FC150 had the dual adjuster cams for the brakes. A bit of a PITA to get them adjusted properly, but they held adjustment for a long time.
When you grease your muffler bearings you’re supposed to grease your break shoes as well.
Oh now you tell about greasing a muffler bearing....took me 3weeks to change out that seized one....lol
It’s good habit to do it every time you add blinker fluid.
Jonathan,,, Hey guy, You might want to Change the "Blinker Fluid" while your at it....lol
OL' Gals looking better and better.....Can't wait till you test drive her....
He probably had seized wheel cylinders and greased the brakes so it would roll!
That was my thought.
Love the videos brother, it reminds me of my grandfather's junk yard.
I've heard of that being done when a car is going to be stored outside to keep the shoes and drum from rusting together.
You have great content. Really enjoying these videos
Never seen brake adjusters like that...those adjuster cams & that pivot arm is where the grease needed to be (my thinking)...we had this black grease called 'crater' that we used on the Page draglines (walking machine) that looked like roofing tar (needed gasoline to get it off) - that's what l'd lay on those adjusters, pivot arm, inside & out & points in between...this car will stop just fine...after l got past the brake part, those lower control arms (length) was the next thing to hit my face - car should offer up a good ride & excellent visibility...50,000 miles? I'd drive it 150,000 miles the way you've been wrenching/building on it...drove an R model Mack's to the moon and back
Copper grease is usually used to prevent sqeaking of your brakes as far as I know.
Thank you for your videos
Greasy brakes? The new hotness of 2019, the greasy brake challenge!
Old timers did this so they could always move the car, when they knew that they weren't going to get to the car for a longtime. Why they would do that to new brakes is beyond me.Great luck for you.
You have a junkyard full of projects, it must be hard to choose what to work on.
I fought so many stuck drums that's why I grease them I use spray white lithium
Awesome as always!! 👍👍👍👍 I really don’t know how you keep up with everything! And I hate to ask you about the drag car because of all your projects. Best honest channel on RUclips!!!!
Hi! Man, your video output is great. Great progress is shown also. Please allow me one suggestion respectively advice: Please don't use the grease soaked brake shoes! This will definitely cause safety issues/problems.
Thanks a lot for making taping editing uploading and sharing.
My 52 Ford got a duo master cylinder kit as I knew it would. Increase the stoping power, And add to safety. You lucky the nut didn't come off. Keep it up fine business om
Quick but good video
Grease on the brake shoes!! I have seen some weird things that people do to cars but that's a first for me.
Busier than a one legged man in a you know.
A dance contest or a 4 square dance..lol...not what you was thinking?
LoL
Jonathan have you ever gravity bled brakes works pretty good when you are by yourself
Yes but don't work real well when the master cylinder is mounted under the floor
@@jonathanw4942 probably not...lol
Ouch forgot about the location of the master cylinder brain fart sorry
Wished I was there would love to help thanks for the reply number one fan south east Kentucky
I appreciate your vids ..bye!
Nice to see this project coming along. Now that the brakes are fixed, does the parking brake work?
I've noticed with quite a few of these barn/garage/field find cars that there's very little to, at the time, nothing really wrong with them when parked. About 25 years ago, a woman sold her son's car that had been kept in her garage for many years. I live in Canada so, the story was a bit odd. She moved to Canada from the States and brought the car with her. She couldn't let go of it at the time. Her son had gone MIA in Vietnam. The car was a 63 split window Vette. Got me thinking, just how many of these cars with similar stories are actually out there?
It’s possible the reason the grease was applied was to preserve the brakes until they would be worked on at a latter date,just speculating.
moving right along... :-)
That's the fanciest brake shoes I've ever seen, but I can see why they didn't make it to the space age. Thanks JW.
Good video Jonathan,i do agree with Mr Jones concerning protecting your hands,i worked with JP5 in the navy,an air force friend of mine worked with hydraulics,that grease and fluids getting absorbed into your hands (and body)can cause you trouble in years to come,not preaching sir,just a word of caution,be careful out in your wrecker service,looking forward to the next video.
Its coming along fast
never know what ya might find when a get a old rig ..LOL I sure have found some shady things .. ENJOYED !
Do you find that you have to replace the hard brake line or do you just flush and use the old ones. I'm sure you replace the flex hose between the wheel and frame.
Oh, Jonathon, I was going to head to bed.....
The brake shoes were probably riveted on with too think of material. they put grease on them to hopefully wear them in without getting hot. I know, it sounds funny, but people did crazy things trying to get by.
The grease is on the pads because back then the old drum brakes when you applied the brakes the drum would vibrate and howl. So, you put a small amount on the edge where the top of the pad was bonded to the steel. As the pad wore a small amount of grease went with it. No more howl. Look at the 53 and 54 Chevy. They had a spring around the drum. That was Chevy's way to keep the drums from vibrating and howling when the brakes were applied. Yours has way too much grease. Too much will contaminate the pad.
I always saw pop's do that on his cars and trucks, but didn't know why.... with pop's "young'n" were not aloud in the shop..so we'd stand at the entrance and watch him do his magic and hear some exploits that would have made grams and mom blush....lol
Nice 65/66! That's the original factory color of mine!
Johnathan , I Have A Long Shot Guess to the Grease on the Brakes . Maybe So the Car Would Roll Easier and or Not Seize Together . They Must Not Have Been Able to Finish the Brake Job.
Knowledge or Money?
My think as well....nothing like trying to move then work on brakes that have seized up 😕
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