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I really think that a world revamp would make a lot of sense, particularly if they scale up Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor. Make them truly large landmasses (made traversable by dragonflight) and then tying in quests from expansions to old zones to keep them alive.
Actually this would make sense, since they bought the entire Spellbreak studio to support more content in WoW. And it seem like they aren't adding to Dragonflight. So it sound like something of this scale may be in the work.
I just want an expansion that deals with the characters we know who need some more love rather than introducing 50 new characters to push the stories of. Mekkatorque got a huge push in BfA after years of neglect and then disappeared into the background again. The council of Three Hammers has just been stewing since Cataclysm with no significant updates and Moira's son has been an infant for years. The Tushui and Huojin Pandaren are so neglected that there's legitimately no way to get reputation with those factions beyond buying a tabard and running old dungeons. Many of the Allied Races got their moment in the sun when they were added and then stagnated. A world revamp would be great for this as different zones could deal with different stories, but I also just want an actual focused story that uses these characters rather than making them only matter when they can just be tossed into the story of a leveling zone and forgotten.
The old world being split into 10 different time lines right now is not healthy at all. A lot of the content is phased out and locked by long quest chains. Total revamp is pretty inevitable considering how big the team is now and the desire for dragonriding in ek/kalimdor. It's a great idea
Agreed. But normal flying should be removed. And dragonriding should be somehow managed to keep us on the ground more. So the world will feel fun and alive once again.
@@octaviangeorge5455 Or could just revamp the flying system in general. Make all flying be like dragonriding. For people who like the normal flying, there could be a setting or a skill toggle that switches between advanced flying vs basic flying. idk
The next expansion will definitely be a world revamp… it’s WoW’s 20th anniversary and it’s exactly why they beefed up their team months ago. Idk if it’s just me… but after exploring The Dragon Isles, the rest of Azeroth feels extremely out of date to the point where i never want to leave the dragon isles. I feel like they just gave us alittle taste of what’s to come with the revamp next expac
Outside of leveling alts, I think I've gone to the old world maybe five times on my main. I just see no reason to and it just feels so slow and boring now when compared to DF content. The amount of times I try and dash on a normal flying mount... Lol
I really want to see more things like Wrath of the Lich King's Argent Tournament, or the base we had in the Firelands. Take those and scale them up. When we rebuild Gilneas or Lordaeron, let us actually participate in it. Have region-based contribution goals to rebuild parts of the city, tasks to be completed in order to do the construction, etc. Let us have ownership of it. Let it be OK if different regions reach their contribution goals at different rates. Having the world change is good, but having it change in a dynamic manner like that is great, and having us participate and feel like we were a part of it is best. It not only lets us see the world change, but lets us see it happen in action. It makes the world feel alive.
I don't get why everyone - including Blizzard - says the Emerald Dream has to be just five zones of a green forest. It's a realm of *nature*. Deserts are also nature. Mountains are also nature. Glaciers are also nature. You can have literally any natural biome.
You have a faulty definition of the word nature, compared to fantasy fiction. The surface of Mars right now is "natural" according to your definition....because that is what exists in nature; but that's not what fantasy fiction means by nature. In fantasy fiction, nature means the magical abundance of plant and animal life.....literal over-abundance and proliferation and green. Green is in the name....Emerald. Emerald Dream.
@@AdriatheBwitch you can want something and be critical of its execution. Though I enjoyed how the world looked after cataclysm, I also enjoy how the old world was as well. I think for me I just got tired of the post cata world because everything looks like it was meant to be continued as expansions go on, but then it just didn't. Like all of the stuff going on in kalimdor like the Barrens looks like it should be a continuous story but instead they've still been fighting in the same battlefield for over a decade.
@@AdriatheBwitch I think a major thing about any future world revamp is that people won't want the current content made unplayable like Cata did - most people just want a second, up-to-date version of Azeroth to pick to play in, similar to how you can pick between character starting zones now
I've just played The Pale Beyond, I made it to day 15 until the expedition tore itself apart, absolute masterpiece. I hate storytelling games like this and I don't really like survival games either, but this, wow, this was great, I actually genuinely cared about the characters and the story. Will definitely be replaying it, I refuse to go back to an earlier save, what happened is what happened. Time to create another timeline. Well do to everyone involved at Bellular, fantastic and inspiring game.
A world revamp is what I want the most. We need to expand WoW and its lore horizontally and catch up with what has happened with the world. Continue old zone storylines, etc. What better way than a revamp to take the game into 2023 (probably not before later but you know what I mean)
As much as I love the idea of a light focused expansion and the narrative and moral intrigue it can make, I really hope they don't touch WOD and by proxy Yrel with a 400 foot pole. Time travel and dimensions was a terrible idea 9 years ago and they're still a terrible idea now.
Emerald Dream would be a fantastic way to introduce tons of fae lore from myth, legends and other fantasy series. I think it'd be fun to have a theme of the expansion being all of the more chaotic and evil side of life in the form of the fae trying to break free of titan bounds. Could have hags, dryads, nypmhs and much more to stand in contrast to say... the drust in Shadowlands/BFA.
If Yrel and her light army ever walk through the Dark Portal, it would be neat to see the Blasted Lands become the Lightbound Lands or something similar. Could put a raid there if the army of the light decide to build structures, a keep or maybe park a ship there.
I don't think the area's name would change due to consistency issues with it as a leveling zone unless they did it like the bronze dragonflight area changes. Even then, i doubt they'd take time to rename it and change the map just for unneeded flavor. If they did though they could name it The Light-Scarred Wastes.
Gotta remember, Yrel is coming from AU Draenor, not Outlands. She’d probably be using the remnants of the dark portal in Tanan Jungle. Maybe the Naru help rebuild it after the destruction that happened in the WoD intro campaign. Who in knows! She’s definitely an alternate universe character though and wouldn’t be coming from modern day Outland.
Actually, the Emerald Dream would be a great place to make the Seed grow and create a new Night Elf starting zone - within the Dream. When you finish the zone, you leave the Dream. Kind of like the Exile's Reach that we can return to.
Really cool idea but after exiles reach I don't know that they'd make race specific starting zones a thing. I mean unless they turn them all into an exiles reach type experience and really fleshed each one out. Which would be dope, but probably a bad use of blizzard resources.
The Titans created more than just Azeroth. Even the Shadowlands was for more than just one world. The Emerald Dream could, theoretically be connected to all the Titan created worlds.
Lightbound is a cool expansion name but I think something based on that big of a story needs a more epic name, like World of Warcraft: Eclipse of the Cosmos
I'd rather not forget about Zereth Vitae. Zereth Mortis and the concept of having different Zereth for each cosmic force is probably the coolest lore Shadowlands introduced.
@@mung01re Much agreed. I think it's unfortunate that people tend to make sweeping statements about something just because part of it was bad. Even if that part was REALLY bad. I had no problem with the release patch in terms of story, ending with Denathrius. And having recently played through the rest of Shadowlands, they definitely had some cool ideas. The biggest problem was just no one knowing what the fuck the Jailer wanted to do, and too much Sylvanas in the story. You know, and the atrocious systems.
@Raptor The Shadowlands was never a great plan. Simply treating the next stage after death as somewhere you can visit like you're going to Cancun is ridiculous. For death to be meaningful in any setting there needs to be no real "afterlife" that's somewhere you can visit.
Also, Shadowlands pretty much showed the devs have no real ability to write theology and believers in it. See how pretty much none of the faction lords who are priests or whatever had a crisis of faith or whatever over learning how the Shadowlands work (unless you count Tyrande and Elune's little talk on how the Horde is owed her forgiveness).
I believe they have many more in the bank left. For example look at the portal room downstairs in orgrimmar there is more open spaces remaining for future xpacs 😁
I like how so many people bitch about what Yrel did, completely forgetting about the fact that the orcs were literally committing genocide against the Draenei. The orcs fucked around and found out.
Okay this may be an unpopular opinion but a shadowlands expansion wasn't necessarily doomed because it was cosmic. The vanilla ghost quests were really cool and the mystery of the spinning void in the sky when you die has been around forever. Shadowlands COULD have been super cool, but it was ruined through poor execution imo
Mental image when you're talking about Light vs Void and the rest in the middle: Cluster of faction leaders standing between the armies, making placating gestures and shouting in chorus, "Can't we all just get along?" *snirk*
I've been saying when they add Forsaken druids, it'd be neat if they have a decay theme. Something similar could be done for a Lifelands/Emerald Dream zone as decay is basically how life handles death. A corpse in decay is teeming with life. The recycling and such, it'd be a neat theme to explore.
You mean like Kultiran Druids? Thornspeakers deal with Drust, and protect the balance of Life and Death, by primarily dealing in death. The Undead could have something similar
It would be cool and smart if they used the Emerald Dream to revamp the old world. Recreate Kalimdor then the Eastern Kingdoms without the cities and just nature. Then just stick all the cities and buildings back in remodeled for the next expansion.
Expansion ideas: Emerald Dream, Scarlet Crusade, Timetravel (maybe fight black empire), Void, villains advancing Curse of Flesh (everyone slowly becomes sickly and mutated, transforming world with new NPCs), Civil War (night elves pissed off at everyone), plenty of content out there relying on obvious material if blizzard tries.
I’d love to see you Michael go through zone by zone or continent by continent the story beats that would happen if a (much needed) world revamp happened!
Azeroth sleeping in order to fight off destruction reminds me of the Goddess Burn from Malazan: Book it the Fallen. So many potentially great angles for this kind of story line
I want to see mighty Lordaeron rise again under Calia Menethil, forsaken Knights and stuff, fully revamped Undercity. I would sell my soul for the Forsaken race to get the straight-back glow up that trolls got with Zandalari.
Emerald Dream was always supposed to be a raid. It was a cut raid from vanilla(people back then were able to sneak the unfinished instance) and finally, in Legion, it was brought back as an idea and done, as a raid. I think an "emerald dream" expansion would actually be the Gardens of Life. The Life realm.
@Shredow2 You're going to have to actually provide evidence of a supposed raid in vanilla that anybody ever walked around in; because the only thing which has evidentiary support right now is the fact there were Emerald Dream portals for the outdoor world boss green dragons; and then a map for Hyjal which we were never allowed to visit in vanilla. Also, separate from that.......your final headcanon would not be consistent with the lore which Metzen wrote. What Metzen wrote was that both the shadowlands (his version, not Danuser's version) and the emerald dream were both the same category with metaphorically opposite polarity.......which put in other words, means they were supposed to be a shadow dimension of Azeroth with ghosts and dark things wandering around........and then the emerald dream being a greenish dreamlike dimension of Azeroth that would represent what Azeroth could have been if no intelligent civilizations or individualistic mortals had been allowed to rise up or take over. Both the Shadowland written by Metzen and the shadowland written by Danuser make it clear they are not "the" realm of death.....they are sort of in the way or in between or a bridge that could lead in that direction. And likewise the emerald dream is not "the" Life realm.....it is sort of in the way or in between or a bridge in the direction of the cosmic team of Life. This was made very clear when Metzen had the illustration made of the cosmic map in his Chronicles book. Regardless of whether different writers want to describe it as unreliable narrator so they can retcon it......the point would still remain; both the objective Metzen intention and the unreliable narrators describing what the Titans believe is the case agree......they show both the Shadowland and the Emerald Dream as small little circles flanking Azeroth itself and not inside or even next to either Death nor Life on the chart. Thus, "if" future writers at blizz want to introduce a Zereth Vitae for us to visit......it won't be the emerald dream nor will it be in the emerald dream; rather.....you'd have to find some way to portal "out of" the emerald dream to get there. Just like we had to find some way to portal "out of" the shadowland to get to Zereth Mortis.
@@galten7361 Said nobody ever....... literally, to the extent that "ANY" lore for the entire franchise of warcraft ever interested or captured the attention of anybody to make it successful at any point in time......the credit goes to Chris Metzen. Every time some woke replacement tries to write something different, it sucks and violates what people cared about to start the franchise itself....and therefore drives hundreds of thousands or millions of paying customers away.
TBH I would really prefer having the very large continent with the different little stories along side the prime lore. Update ALL of Azeroth with the new updated npcs both animal and humanoid alike. Go back on some of the dropped storylines and maybe see the continent split is the reason the story couldnt continue until we found the other side of the planet to finish those plot holes. Stuff like that.
It is time for a Revamp, we actually have too many stories and actions made by same npc's to add another layer of "Oohh a new story was waiting for ya". Btw thanks for that great video Bellular !
What I think might happen with the end of an expansion having to do with the Light/Void clashing with each other, trying or even forcing us to pick a side... the whole of Azeroth might get screwed up. More so than when Deathwing threw the world and the elements into total upheaval. To me, this sounds like it would be the _final_ expansion for the game, and after that, Blizzard would have to completely reinvent what World of Warcraft is.
I understand what you mean when you fear a new exp of us going into an alien realm, given what we got in SL, but I think the Emerald Dream is becoming always more important and it would be a shame to never go there. In my opinion, the best way they can make this work is making it very close to Azeroth in terms of landscapes, people and creatures: we know the Dream is kinda what Azeroth may have been, and it's heavily related to elvish society and to many beloved characters, so I think there's a lot of space there to make it work without making us feel alienated. In the end, we've been to places before that sould've made us feel alienated, like Argus or Outland, given how different they are from Azeroth, but they both felt right. Tbh I think even the Shadowlands could've been like that if only the characters and the story didn't feel so distant from us.
And between what the Nathrezeim and the Titan Keepers said I would love to see Blizzard explore the chaotic nature of the Fae. If people think the Titans are jerks, they've never really been exposed to the chaotic whims of the Fae, where mortals could be treated like kings, or a second later, turned into a frog for little more than a whim. Where reality could change at the wink of an eye. I for one would love to explore the Emerald Dream.
@@RyanofAndor I have no idea what you are talking about....... are you typing out some kind of headcanon you invented or stole from a different franchise?
Emerald dream to me is a raid or single zone. I hate hate hate the generic forest zones in wow. Valsharah has cool lore but I'm so tired of that aesthetic. It deserves some shine in game, but not an xpac
@@hobosnake1 Not sure what you mean. Do you prefer the numerous sand zones of vanilla which were basically empty....? I think if there was somebody around that could carry out what Metzen originally planned for the Emerald Dream....it could be far more than just one raid or one zone. The intention of Metzen's emerald dream was to show an alternate dimension for the entire planet where mortal civilizations were never allowed to have developed.....and instead the wild plants and animals maintained dominance. Using that philosophy, you could have multiple different zones even borrowing the topology and terrain of zones we know; but with no cities and no technology.
I'm really hoping a Yrel invasion takes place across old vanilla azeroth zones that are phased and made to look modern. an invasion on an island doesn't feel as epic and we already had that with legion.
The thing with the Emerald Dream expansion is that; it doesn't just have to be forests. The Emerald Dream is supposed to be a version of Azeroth without mortal alterations, like buildings or roads. So it'd be like the Pangea-like Kalimdor supercontinent without any structures. But Azeroth has biomes other than temperate forests; Icy tundras, hot sandy deserts and marshes. Most expansions have areas that fall into these categories anyway, so it wouldn't even be that different. They'd just have to be creative about implementing settlements without any structures or architecture altering the environment.
Yrel most likely recruited the alternate Azeroth that should have been invaded by AU Gul'dan and the Horde that Garrosh prevented him to create. So Yrel most likely has more than just draenei and orcs in her army of the light.
After old world revamp, next step it should be to remove normal flying from the game. That stuff is outdated and ruinned wow for too long. Dragonriding should replace it instead but with more stuff to keep us on the earth. Flying should not be something to casually do with no stress. Like afk-ing in the air should never be a thing. These two things will make warcraft world feel epic once again.
I've been saying since we allow worgen to change forms as well as the new dragon race in DF, it wouldn't be a stretch to allow the Naga to switch between their high elven forms to address some of those practical concerns like mounting up. Just imagine all the customization options, intertwined with early high elf culture and the void.
Fun fact: in the original vanilla alpha naga were suppossed to be a playable race. It got scrapped b/c the under water starting zone was taking too much time to get up to blizz's standard. Source: The Wow Diary by John Stats.
I still argue that a world revamp should've happened between bfa and leigon, at least partially. Bfa should've had the zones be updated with an overall plot of horde vs alliance and use the existing story to bounce off of. Leigon should've had the burning leigon actually invade zones and have it be like how deathwing changed zones
@@Robzeke But its been 10 years since we have visted the main lands of the entirety of azeroth. These zones are outdated and dont even follow the same story path anymore
Honestly, I would really love an expansion that returns us to The Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor. Maybe while we were all away at the Dragon Isle one of the Big Bads took over and now we have to return and stop them. Or maybe the Big Bad completely destroys both The Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor and now we have to return to rebuild the two while will working towards fighting this Big Bad who did everything. I think it'd be a good way to revamp the two places! Make it so our efforts are what is slowly changing the world from what we have now, into this new Revamped Beautiful place!
I am over the Light vs Void storyline. Ever since Blizzard decided to make the Light morally ambiguous or even evil, in a way, I lost interest. It's beyond lame that *everything* has to be evil in some way. It would have been totally fine if the Light was just good, even if the Void wasn't all bad. I don't get why writers can never just be content with having something be good without caveats. And I'm also just sooooo tired of hearing and seeing people talk about Light vs Void. I used to love this direction, and then Blizzard fucked it, and then people couldn't shut up about it anymore either.
Blizzard doesn't actually know what it means to be grey. To be grey means there isn't a right or wrong answer. All wars of note in the real world are grey since in enough cases one side is just as "bad" or worse as the other (see WW2).
I am thinking "Atlantis Trolls" turned into "Loa Trolls" and are getting ready to migrate into another dimension, however they want to settle some old business with Odin or Odin will not let a worthy opponent leave without a fight.
I want a world revamp! "Why though?" You might ask. Well, for me atleast, it has been VERY LONG since the world had a revamp. And since time also flows (lorewise) in the World of Warcraft too, it should also show a significant amount of change of scenery and probably also change of many things, like, factions, economy, restoration of certain areas like Gilneas, Lordaeron, the Exodar and so much and so forth. What I think should be done by Blizzard (which they can do, since they can do some zones at a time while doing an expansion anyways DUH), is just revamping the world as in: -Complete Revamp of old zones like Kalimdor, Eastern Kingdoms, Northrend. (Maybe Outlands, but idk about a broken floating piece of rocks and ruins) -Partial Revamps of zones after the cataclysm like Pandaria (no Y'Shaarj activity since its heart was destroyed, being the end of the Sha manifestations), Draenor (probably lightforged & other forces fighting each other to take over Draenor and maybe invading Azeroth or just minding their damn business), The Broken Isles (some tweaks here and there, like having Suramar as a Capital City (please)). -And just some very small changes to recent zones like BfA and Shadowlands zones. (Tho idk about shadowlands, since its just, idk, yucky to some extend? Its just the afterlife, nothing too big to change anyways) Like, giving very old zones a big makeover, making it look pretty damn good and on point, aswell as giving it the feel that it either was upgraded, restored or even getting old, while newer zones should feel like somewhat the same with just small changes, that make sense and would also make it feel like it is moving forward, and not being in constant purgatory of time and space, stuck forever in an endless loop of repeat. Also, the fear of old stuff like armor, weapons, pets, toys, mounts ect, then fret not, since they should just let us KEEP, the old raids and dungeons, in a pretty cool thing that I would call the MEMORY-LANE, which would be pretty damn neat, since it would act like a hub for old dungeons and raids for those who want to hunt those old content items! But well, we know its all hopes and dreams for most people out there, but the reality might be alot more different than we thought. But if it would actually become true, then please, Blizzard (I know, this is Bellular here that I am commenting on his video on, which is not working at Blizzard, duh) consider making a collection room of old raids n dungeons atleast after revamping the world!
The relationship between light and void is similar to the concept of light and darkness in FFXIV. In both universes neither light nor darkness/void is inherently good or evil, but is capable of doing good things or great destruction if used incorrectly, like with the voidsent and voidspawn, and the sineaters and lightbound.
I really love that there's still so many things to be explored. It gives me hope that WoW will still have expansions for years to come and more time to continuously redeem itself
4:33 The old gods aren't dead, they cant be killed, if they died they would have caused damaged to azeroth in which we would have noticed, similar in scale to the sword, they are asleep, put into a healing coma. Similar to what DC did post "the death of superman"
I want a world revamp that skips out on most questing and just turns the old world into large ZM/Dragon Isles style playgrounds of events, world quests, dailies, special puzzles, dragon races and the like - still have questing, but make it more about the continent than like 80 zone-specific quests like in Cata
I feel if they do a Light vs Void expansion they NEED to put the time and effort in to story and characters before it, which currently they do seem to be doing. But like you said, what of priests, paladins? Void elves? More characters need more depth and consistency including our own character. Would be the perfect time to bring order halls back, maybe paladins and priests are actually kicked out of their class order and set up a resistance, using the light as a weapon against the Light-worshippers etc. What would happen to Turalyon and Alleria? Their son? Would the void elves be kicked from the alliance? Perhaps Anduin returns and leads a revolution against Turalyon, boasting both the power of Light and Void at his disposal? So much room for epic plot AND gameplay systems, but it needs to be earned over time.
We also needed more WQ available for that main group we need it for to do main story. There are not enough available for them to help it along. I’m honestly upset I wasted money on this expansion thinking it would be better. Totally got lied to about how it really is.
oh man imagine , you take a portal from stormwind or another city when it is a sunny nice day outside to some place on the otherside of the planet and it is night , i think that would be really nice just for the feel to make clear , you are far far away from your home , but still on the same planet
If there is a world revamp I personally hope they finally do something with Gnomeregan and the gnomes in general, like we took back the city back in vanilla, they got a new starting zone and strated clearin it out in Cataclysm and then... I think it would be cool to see it all cleared up and functioning again.
The child of shadow and light prophecy with Illidan? Now, I'm not too brushed up on the lore at all, but surely "The child of shadow and light" would be Arator the redeemer, no? Shadow: Alleria, and Light: Turalyon? I've probably missed something??
They need to heal the dead scar outside of silver moon city and revamp the entire starting area, eversong woods is too beautiful to go to waste and never to be seen after leveling in the ghost lands… and silver moon city could use a make over. If we get an expansion about the light, the sun well is going to have an impact on that, and I’d like more blood elf involvement instead of the dreanei.
I feel like that a nature focused expansion should be in Kalimdor. Let nature go crazy there, with Botani and Saberon as the newcomers there and maybe some Gron that fight Stone Giants... with Orcs/Tauren/Nelfs trying to deal with this wild uncontrolled Nature.
Shadow and light concepts are very simple to me. Being ''too good'' makes you evil because it means you supressed the dark in you, and whatever you supress eventually becomes too hard to hold down. Knowing your shadow as well as your own hands is the real way to be truly good, because you do it very consciously, and very purposefully because you choose so. You wouldn't perceive a day if nights didn't exist.
If they do a South Seas expansion/area, there's a huge place to update Gadgeztan to be what it is in Hearthstone, and that is a full functional city, with mean streets and tall buildings. I'd love to see them redo Gadget if they go South Seas.
10 bucks says anduin eventually goes bad and runs back to the shadowlands to figure himself out or whatever, sylvannas finds nathanos and they go on a mission to find anduin and try to save him while the alliance and potentially the horde hunt him down.
I would really love a revamp of... well everything pre legion, but mostly Azeroth. The BfA revamps are great and I think would help with new player retention having more of the game be coherent in visual fidelity. However... Outlands brought up to DF visual standards would be dope.
Given light and void are a balance, each keeping the other at bay, it will be interesting to see where the player characters end up. If either side actually wins it will be a disaster - I feel like there would need to be a proper third "side" dedicated to maintaining balance, and this is where the player characters would end up.
No such thing as invasion; we need the Light to help us stop the evil Chaos/Void/Death which have proven again and again and again to torture and murder and destroy us and everything we care about.
I have actually been wondering whether Aszhara goal is to awaken Azeroth as an entity of void. Im going to guess we ar going to try to stop her but will fail. Azeroth will awaken as a void entity, but a void entity that is not necessarily an enemy, much like many of the void entities we have interacted that are not evil. This will trigger Yrel to force her way through the dark portal to destroy Azeroth, which is a being of void.
Something I would love for them to add to any of these scenarios would be playable races, some that have been with us for years like the ogres, naga, and centaurs. Even completely new races on a possible new continent. I even settle for customizations for races such as tauren being able to be played as taunka or yaungol.
If they make Taunka or Yaungol a customization for Bloodhoof Tauren then they should bake Highmountain Tauren into them as well and replace Highmountain Tauren with something else entirely such as Sethrak considering Highmountain Tauren are less unique than both Yaungol and Taunka
I would not be surprised if when we get a world revamp expansion they start consolidating. They need to start herding new players in a direction, I would not be surprised if the boats stop returning from Northrend and we stop risking our people for another continent seemingly lost so we do the same with places like Draenor, we close off the portals and focus on rebuilding/combating the new threat in Azeroth and Blizzard closes off access (also building "hype" for Classic launch of those expansions that otherwise likely wouldn't have much of any).
They said they've got stories for expansions for years to come but after the last few expansions they are just kind of making it up as they go along. Nothing else will convince me otherwise
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I really think that a world revamp would make a lot of sense, particularly if they scale up Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor. Make them truly large landmasses (made traversable by dragonflight) and then tying in quests from expansions to old zones to keep them alive.
Been thinking the same
Yes!
That would be too much for a multi-dollar company with limited time and resources. lol
Actually this would make sense, since they bought the entire Spellbreak studio to support more content in WoW. And it seem like they aren't adding to Dragonflight. So it sound like something of this scale may be in the work.
@@a1pha_star "limited resources" bitch have you heard how much diablo immortal made?
"What about Emerald Dream?
"We've already had it"
"We've had one, yes. What about second Emerald Dream?"
I just want an expansion that deals with the characters we know who need some more love rather than introducing 50 new characters to push the stories of. Mekkatorque got a huge push in BfA after years of neglect and then disappeared into the background again. The council of Three Hammers has just been stewing since Cataclysm with no significant updates and Moira's son has been an infant for years. The Tushui and Huojin Pandaren are so neglected that there's legitimately no way to get reputation with those factions beyond buying a tabard and running old dungeons. Many of the Allied Races got their moment in the sun when they were added and then stagnated. A world revamp would be great for this as different zones could deal with different stories, but I also just want an actual focused story that uses these characters rather than making them only matter when they can just be tossed into the story of a leveling zone and forgotten.
The old world being split into 10 different time lines right now is not healthy at all. A lot of the content is phased out and locked by long quest chains. Total revamp is pretty inevitable considering how big the team is now and the desire for dragonriding in ek/kalimdor. It's a great idea
Agreed. But normal flying should be removed. And dragonriding should be somehow managed to keep us on the ground more. So the world will feel fun and alive once again.
@@octaviangeorge5455 What about mounts? Become dragonriding skins?
@@So_Stupendous yes
@@octaviangeorge5455 Or could just revamp the flying system in general. Make all flying be like dragonriding. For people who like the normal flying, there could be a setting or a skill toggle that switches between advanced flying vs basic flying. idk
@@aydev311 nop. old flying should be removed at all. Because people will feel like its more convenient to use it still.
The next expansion will definitely be a world revamp… it’s WoW’s 20th anniversary and it’s exactly why they beefed up their team months ago. Idk if it’s just me… but after exploring The Dragon Isles, the rest of Azeroth feels extremely out of date to the point where i never want to leave the dragon isles. I feel like they just gave us alittle taste of what’s to come with the revamp next expac
Outside of leveling alts, I think I've gone to the old world maybe five times on my main. I just see no reason to and it just feels so slow and boring now when compared to DF content. The amount of times I try and dash on a normal flying mount... Lol
I really want to see more things like Wrath of the Lich King's Argent Tournament, or the base we had in the Firelands. Take those and scale them up. When we rebuild Gilneas or Lordaeron, let us actually participate in it. Have region-based contribution goals to rebuild parts of the city, tasks to be completed in order to do the construction, etc. Let us have ownership of it. Let it be OK if different regions reach their contribution goals at different rates. Having the world change is good, but having it change in a dynamic manner like that is great, and having us participate and feel like we were a part of it is best. It not only lets us see the world change, but lets us see it happen in action. It makes the world feel alive.
Dynamic Changes would be great.
hopefully with not as many dailies and stingy currencies.
The Argent Crusade was bad writing
I don't remember a base in Firelands. Can you remind me?
@@Malumbrus The Tree the Druids Planted.
I don't get why everyone - including Blizzard - says the Emerald Dream has to be just five zones of a green forest. It's a realm of *nature*. Deserts are also nature. Mountains are also nature. Glaciers are also nature. You can have literally any natural biome.
You have a faulty definition of the word nature, compared to fantasy fiction. The surface of Mars right now is "natural" according to your definition....because that is what exists in nature; but that's not what fantasy fiction means by nature. In fantasy fiction, nature means the magical abundance of plant and animal life.....literal over-abundance and proliferation and green. Green is in the name....Emerald. Emerald Dream.
I sincerely hope for a world revamp. That's what excites me the most.
Same problem that existed with cataclysm revamp is still in the game. The dungeon finder
@@casko9626 The only problem the dungeon finder had in Cata was having to find the entrance to dungeons to be able to use it in Cata zones
People said this before Cata too then they said it was bad and sucked...
@@AdriatheBwitch you can want something and be critical of its execution. Though I enjoyed how the world looked after cataclysm, I also enjoy how the old world was as well. I think for me I just got tired of the post cata world because everything looks like it was meant to be continued as expansions go on, but then it just didn't. Like all of the stuff going on in kalimdor like the Barrens looks like it should be a continuous story but instead they've still been fighting in the same battlefield for over a decade.
@@AdriatheBwitch I think a major thing about any future world revamp is that people won't want the current content made unplayable like Cata did - most people just want a second, up-to-date version of Azeroth to pick to play in, similar to how you can pick between character starting zones now
Hope the world is still intact after we get those expansions
You mean our world or WoW? Honestly over the next 10 years, could be either one to go.
Intact? The original continent is slowly getting put back together with all the landmass appearing everywhere. XD
Outlands all the way down? Lol
I've just played The Pale Beyond, I made it to day 15 until the expedition tore itself apart, absolute masterpiece. I hate storytelling games like this and I don't really like survival games either, but this, wow, this was great, I actually genuinely cared about the characters and the story. Will definitely be replaying it, I refuse to go back to an earlier save, what happened is what happened. Time to create another timeline. Well do to everyone involved at Bellular, fantastic and inspiring game.
A world revamp is what I want the most. We need to expand WoW and its lore horizontally and catch up with what has happened with the world. Continue old zone storylines, etc. What better way than a revamp to take the game into 2023 (probably not before later but you know what I mean)
I love that Bellular's here to remind Blizzard of the plot lines that are left open for them to explore.
As much as I love the idea of a light focused expansion and the narrative and moral intrigue it can make, I really hope they don't touch WOD and by proxy Yrel with a 400 foot pole. Time travel and dimensions was a terrible idea 9 years ago and they're still a terrible idea now.
It wasn't well done in the War of the Ancients novel either.
Emerald Dream would be a fantastic way to introduce tons of fae lore from myth, legends and other fantasy series. I think it'd be fun to have a theme of the expansion being all of the more chaotic and evil side of life in the form of the fae trying to break free of titan bounds. Could have hags, dryads, nypmhs and much more to stand in contrast to say... the drust in Shadowlands/BFA.
If Yrel and her light army ever walk through the Dark Portal, it would be neat to see the Blasted Lands become the Lightbound Lands or something similar. Could put a raid there if the army of the light decide to build structures, a keep or maybe park a ship there.
I don't think the area's name would change due to consistency issues with it as a leveling zone unless they did it like the bronze dragonflight area changes. Even then, i doubt they'd take time to rename it and change the map just for unneeded flavor. If they did though they could name it The Light-Scarred Wastes.
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Gotta remember, Yrel is coming from AU Draenor, not Outlands. She’d probably be using the remnants of the dark portal in Tanan Jungle. Maybe the Naru help rebuild it after the destruction that happened in the WoD intro campaign. Who in knows! She’s definitely an alternate universe character though and wouldn’t be coming from modern day Outland.
If the light army pushes through the dark portal we will shove them immediately back through. After the pre patch of course.
We just want to go back to bfa man
Actually, the Emerald Dream would be a great place to make the Seed grow and create a new Night Elf starting zone - within the Dream. When you finish the zone, you leave the Dream. Kind of like the Exile's Reach that we can return to.
Really cool idea but after exiles reach I don't know that they'd make race specific starting zones a thing. I mean unless they turn them all into an exiles reach type experience and really fleshed each one out. Which would be dope, but probably a bad use of blizzard resources.
If they get to revamping the old zones, I want to see, what Botani have been up to at the Barrens' Oasis.
(And the Saberon)
The Titans created more than just Azeroth. Even the Shadowlands was for more than just one world. The Emerald Dream could, theoretically be connected to all the Titan created worlds.
Lightbound is a cool expansion name but I think something based on that big of a story needs a more epic name, like World of Warcraft: Eclipse of the Cosmos
I'm no fan of this "evil Light" tripe, I admit that is a good expansion name idea.
I'd rather not forget about Zereth Vitae. Zereth Mortis and the concept of having different Zereth for each cosmic force is probably the coolest lore Shadowlands introduced.
I agree. I honestly loved the _idea_ of Shadowlands. It was the implementation that fell short.
@@mung01re Yeah, the implementation is the one thing that Blizzard has a problem with executing their ideas.
@@mung01re Much agreed. I think it's unfortunate that people tend to make sweeping statements about something just because part of it was bad.
Even if that part was REALLY bad. I had no problem with the release patch in terms of story, ending with Denathrius. And having recently played through the rest of Shadowlands, they definitely had some cool ideas.
The biggest problem was just no one knowing what the fuck the Jailer wanted to do, and too much Sylvanas in the story.
You know, and the atrocious systems.
@Raptor The Shadowlands was never a great plan. Simply treating the next stage after death as somewhere you can visit like you're going to Cancun is ridiculous. For death to be meaningful in any setting there needs to be no real "afterlife" that's somewhere you can visit.
Also, Shadowlands pretty much showed the devs have no real ability to write theology and believers in it. See how pretty much none of the faction lords who are priests or whatever had a crisis of faith or whatever over learning how the Shadowlands work (unless you count Tyrande and Elune's little talk on how the Horde is owed her forgiveness).
That would be amazing to have the original world updated 😀
I believe they have many more in the bank left. For example look at the portal room downstairs in orgrimmar there is more open spaces remaining for future xpacs 😁
I like how so many people bitch about what Yrel did, completely forgetting about the fact that the orcs were literally committing genocide against the Draenei. The orcs fucked around and found out.
They're noble savages and enough of the fandom with devs think noble savages were real.
Okay this may be an unpopular opinion but a shadowlands expansion wasn't necessarily doomed because it was cosmic. The vanilla ghost quests were really cool and the mystery of the spinning void in the sky when you die has been around forever. Shadowlands COULD have been super cool, but it was ruined through poor execution imo
Mental image when you're talking about Light vs Void and the rest in the middle: Cluster of faction leaders standing between the armies, making placating gestures and shouting in chorus, "Can't we all just get along?" *snirk*
I've been saying when they add Forsaken druids, it'd be neat if they have a decay theme. Something similar could be done for a Lifelands/Emerald Dream zone as decay is basically how life handles death. A corpse in decay is teeming with life. The recycling and such, it'd be a neat theme to explore.
All Hail Papa Nurgle!
Thats awesome
Yeah but wsnt that same theme explored in Suramar in Legion?
You mean like Kultiran Druids? Thornspeakers deal with Drust, and protect the balance of Life and Death, by primarily dealing in death. The Undead could have something similar
@@Theclownhaslanded Yeah, just going even further and doubling down on the decay aspect. It's work great.
Blizz is building more layers to its story than Bellular wears
It would be cool and smart if they used the Emerald Dream to revamp the old world. Recreate Kalimdor then the Eastern Kingdoms without the cities and just nature. Then just stick all the cities and buildings back in remodeled for the next expansion.
I was hoping Michael finally went rogue and leaked the next expansions based on his insider info xd
Expansion ideas: Emerald Dream, Scarlet Crusade, Timetravel (maybe fight black empire), Void, villains advancing Curse of Flesh (everyone slowly becomes sickly and mutated, transforming world with new NPCs), Civil War (night elves pissed off at everyone), plenty of content out there relying on obvious material if blizzard tries.
I’d love to see you Michael go through zone by zone or continent by continent the story beats that would happen if a (much needed) world revamp happened!
Azeroth sleeping in order to fight off destruction reminds me of the Goddess Burn from Malazan: Book it the Fallen.
So many potentially great angles for this kind of story line
I want to see mighty Lordaeron rise again under Calia Menethil, forsaken Knights and stuff, fully revamped Undercity. I would sell my soul for the Forsaken race to get the straight-back glow up that trolls got with Zandalari.
Emerald Dream was always supposed to be a raid. It was a cut raid from vanilla(people back then were able to sneak the unfinished instance) and finally, in Legion, it was brought back as an idea and done, as a raid. I think an "emerald dream" expansion would actually be the Gardens of Life. The Life realm.
@Shredow2 You're going to have to actually provide evidence of a supposed raid in vanilla that anybody ever walked around in; because the only thing which has evidentiary support right now is the fact there were Emerald Dream portals for the outdoor world boss green dragons; and then a map for Hyjal which we were never allowed to visit in vanilla. Also, separate from that.......your final headcanon would not be consistent with the lore which Metzen wrote. What Metzen wrote was that both the shadowlands (his version, not Danuser's version) and the emerald dream were both the same category with metaphorically opposite polarity.......which put in other words, means they were supposed to be a shadow dimension of Azeroth with ghosts and dark things wandering around........and then the emerald dream being a greenish dreamlike dimension of Azeroth that would represent what Azeroth could have been if no intelligent civilizations or individualistic mortals had been allowed to rise up or take over. Both the Shadowland written by Metzen and the shadowland written by Danuser make it clear they are not "the" realm of death.....they are sort of in the way or in between or a bridge that could lead in that direction. And likewise the emerald dream is not "the" Life realm.....it is sort of in the way or in between or a bridge in the direction of the cosmic team of Life. This was made very clear when Metzen had the illustration made of the cosmic map in his Chronicles book. Regardless of whether different writers want to describe it as unreliable narrator so they can retcon it......the point would still remain; both the objective Metzen intention and the unreliable narrators describing what the Titans believe is the case agree......they show both the Shadowland and the Emerald Dream as small little circles flanking Azeroth itself and not inside or even next to either Death nor Life on the chart.
Thus, "if" future writers at blizz want to introduce a Zereth Vitae for us to visit......it won't be the emerald dream nor will it be in the emerald dream; rather.....you'd have to find some way to portal "out of" the emerald dream to get there. Just like we had to find some way to portal "out of" the shadowland to get to Zereth Mortis.
@Laertes Indeed Metzen wasn't that great at making lore.
@@galten7361 Said nobody ever....... literally, to the extent that "ANY" lore for the entire franchise of warcraft ever interested or captured the attention of anybody to make it successful at any point in time......the credit goes to Chris Metzen. Every time some woke replacement tries to write something different, it sucks and violates what people cared about to start the franchise itself....and therefore drives hundreds of thousands or millions of paying customers away.
TBH I would really prefer having the very large continent with the different little stories along side the prime lore. Update ALL of Azeroth with the new updated npcs both animal and humanoid alike. Go back on some of the dropped storylines and maybe see the continent split is the reason the story couldnt continue until we found the other side of the planet to finish those plot holes. Stuff like that.
It is time for a Revamp, we actually have too many stories and actions made by same npc's to add another layer of "Oohh a new story was waiting for ya". Btw thanks for that great video Bellular !
What I think might happen with the end of an expansion having to do with the Light/Void clashing with each other, trying or even forcing us to pick a side... the whole of Azeroth might get screwed up. More so than when Deathwing threw the world and the elements into total upheaval. To me, this sounds like it would be the _final_ expansion for the game, and after that, Blizzard would have to completely reinvent what World of Warcraft is.
I understand what you mean when you fear a new exp of us going into an alien realm, given what we got in SL, but I think the Emerald Dream is becoming always more important and it would be a shame to never go there. In my opinion, the best way they can make this work is making it very close to Azeroth in terms of landscapes, people and creatures: we know the Dream is kinda what Azeroth may have been, and it's heavily related to elvish society and to many beloved characters, so I think there's a lot of space there to make it work without making us feel alienated.
In the end, we've been to places before that sould've made us feel alienated, like Argus or Outland, given how different they are from Azeroth, but they both felt right. Tbh I think even the Shadowlands could've been like that if only the characters and the story didn't feel so distant from us.
And between what the Nathrezeim and the Titan Keepers said I would love to see Blizzard explore the chaotic nature of the Fae. If people think the Titans are jerks, they've never really been exposed to the chaotic whims of the Fae, where mortals could be treated like kings, or a second later, turned into a frog for little more than a whim. Where reality could change at the wink of an eye. I for one would love to explore the Emerald Dream.
@@RyanofAndor I have no idea what you are talking about....... are you typing out some kind of headcanon you invented or stole from a different franchise?
Emerald dream to me is a raid or single zone. I hate hate hate the generic forest zones in wow. Valsharah has cool lore but I'm so tired of that aesthetic. It deserves some shine in game, but not an xpac
@Ryan Still no answer.
@@hobosnake1 Not sure what you mean. Do you prefer the numerous sand zones of vanilla which were basically empty....? I think if there was somebody around that could carry out what Metzen originally planned for the Emerald Dream....it could be far more than just one raid or one zone. The intention of Metzen's emerald dream was to show an alternate dimension for the entire planet where mortal civilizations were never allowed to have developed.....and instead the wild plants and animals maintained dominance. Using that philosophy, you could have multiple different zones even borrowing the topology and terrain of zones we know; but with no cities and no technology.
Going to the other side of Azeroth would be insane. Hope they do something with that!
I'm really hoping a Yrel invasion takes place across old vanilla azeroth zones that are phased and made to look modern. an invasion on an island doesn't feel as epic and we already had that with legion.
The thing with the Emerald Dream expansion is that; it doesn't just have to be forests.
The Emerald Dream is supposed to be a version of Azeroth without mortal alterations, like buildings or roads. So it'd be like the Pangea-like Kalimdor supercontinent without any structures. But Azeroth has biomes other than temperate forests; Icy tundras, hot sandy deserts and marshes. Most expansions have areas that fall into these categories anyway, so it wouldn't even be that different. They'd just have to be creative about implementing settlements without any structures or architecture altering the environment.
Yrel most likely recruited the alternate Azeroth that should have been invaded by AU Gul'dan and the Horde that Garrosh prevented him to create. So Yrel most likely has more than just draenei and orcs in her army of the light.
After old world revamp, next step it should be to remove normal flying from the game. That stuff is outdated and ruinned wow for too long. Dragonriding should replace it instead but with more stuff to keep us on the earth. Flying should not be something to casually do with no stress. Like afk-ing in the air should never be a thing. These two things will make warcraft world feel epic once again.
I hope that we eventually get the Naga as a playable race
I've been saying since we allow worgen to change forms as well as the new dragon race in DF, it wouldn't be a stretch to allow the Naga to switch between their high elven forms to address some of those practical concerns like mounting up. Just imagine all the customization options, intertwined with early high elf culture and the void.
Fun fact: in the original vanilla alpha naga were suppossed to be a playable race. It got scrapped b/c the under water starting zone was taking too much time to get up to blizz's standard. Source: The Wow Diary by John Stats.
Too late
@@galten7361 Nah, nothing is ever too late. Blizzard can always write something from nothing if they have to.
"Azshara is coming back" and by God let's hope she brings playable naga
And that she become our friend, because being an antagonist in wow is boring af...
I still argue that a world revamp should've happened between bfa and leigon, at least partially. Bfa should've had the zones be updated with an overall plot of horde vs alliance and use the existing story to bounce off of. Leigon should've had the burning leigon actually invade zones and have it be like how deathwing changed zones
It would be better to have the zones have new, self contained stories. That way we aren't stuck with an outdated world for over 10 years again.
@@Robzeke But its been 10 years since we have visted the main lands of the entirety of azeroth. These zones are outdated and dont even follow the same story path anymore
Honestly, I would really love an expansion that returns us to The Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor. Maybe while we were all away at the Dragon Isle one of the Big Bads took over and now we have to return and stop them. Or maybe the Big Bad completely destroys both The Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor and now we have to return to rebuild the two while will working towards fighting this Big Bad who did everything. I think it'd be a good way to revamp the two places! Make it so our efforts are what is slowly changing the world from what we have now, into this new Revamped Beautiful place!
I am over the Light vs Void storyline. Ever since Blizzard decided to make the Light morally ambiguous or even evil, in a way, I lost interest.
It's beyond lame that *everything* has to be evil in some way. It would have been totally fine if the Light was just good, even if the Void wasn't all bad.
I don't get why writers can never just be content with having something be good without caveats. And I'm also just sooooo tired of hearing and seeing people talk about Light vs Void. I used to love this direction, and then Blizzard fucked it, and then people couldn't shut up about it anymore either.
Blizzard doesn't actually know what it means to be grey. To be grey means there isn't a right or wrong answer. All wars of note in the real world are grey since in enough cases one side is just as "bad" or worse as the other (see WW2).
I am thinking "Atlantis Trolls" turned into "Loa Trolls" and are getting ready to migrate into another dimension, however they want to settle some old business with Odin or Odin will not let a worthy opponent leave without a fight.
I want a world revamp! "Why though?" You might ask. Well, for me atleast, it has been VERY LONG since the world had a revamp. And since time also flows (lorewise) in the World of Warcraft too, it should also show a significant amount of change of scenery and probably also change of many things, like, factions, economy, restoration of certain areas like Gilneas, Lordaeron, the Exodar and so much and so forth.
What I think should be done by Blizzard (which they can do, since they can do some zones at a time while doing an expansion anyways DUH), is just revamping the world as in:
-Complete Revamp of old zones like Kalimdor, Eastern Kingdoms, Northrend. (Maybe Outlands, but idk about a broken floating piece of rocks and ruins)
-Partial Revamps of zones after the cataclysm like Pandaria (no Y'Shaarj activity since its heart was destroyed, being the end of the Sha manifestations), Draenor (probably lightforged & other forces fighting each other to take over Draenor and maybe invading Azeroth or just minding their damn business), The Broken Isles (some tweaks here and there, like having Suramar as a Capital City (please)).
-And just some very small changes to recent zones like BfA and Shadowlands zones. (Tho idk about shadowlands, since its just, idk, yucky to some extend? Its just the afterlife, nothing too big to change anyways)
Like, giving very old zones a big makeover, making it look pretty damn good and on point, aswell as giving it the feel that it either was upgraded, restored or even getting old, while newer zones should feel like somewhat the same with just small changes, that make sense and would also make it feel like it is moving forward, and not being in constant purgatory of time and space, stuck forever in an endless loop of repeat.
Also, the fear of old stuff like armor, weapons, pets, toys, mounts ect, then fret not, since they should just let us KEEP, the old raids and dungeons, in a pretty cool thing that I would call the MEMORY-LANE, which would be pretty damn neat, since it would act like a hub for old dungeons and raids for those who want to hunt those old content items!
But well, we know its all hopes and dreams for most people out there, but the reality might be alot more different than we thought. But if it would actually become true, then please, Blizzard (I know, this is Bellular here that I am commenting on his video on, which is not working at Blizzard, duh) consider making a collection room of old raids n dungeons atleast after revamping the world!
What if the expansion is for the "Lifelands" and the Emerald Dream is just one part of it?
The thanks for watching section was completely muted fyi, but great video!
9:03 "Embranced"...void broke the naga's spellcheck.
Now now let's see if DF can even bring in the numbers for more expansions.
i am fine with anything as long as we finally get a gadgetzan that looks the way lore says it is supposed to.
No sound from 20:03 to 20:26?
Was just sitting there thinking the other day" when is blizz gonna fuck up outlands" I guess it wont be long now
It would be wild if all that talk from N'zoth about testing us and joining him was in preparation to fight Azshara together
And what if we joined Azshara who is lot more interesting than N'zoth?
We have reached new peaks in MCU writing.
20:05 - Where did the sound go?
The relationship between light and void is similar to the concept of light and darkness in FFXIV. In both universes neither light nor darkness/void is inherently good or evil, but is capable of doing good things or great destruction if used incorrectly, like with the voidsent and voidspawn, and the sineaters and lightbound.
I think next thing you should do is Pale Beyond: tropic DLC. Pirates, hurricanes, maybe Bermuda Triangle and myth and mystery
having the Vindicar be shot down trying to find Avalorn would be a great way to write it out of the story.
What if the REAL child of light and dark...is Anduin?
I really love that there's still so many things to be explored. It gives me hope that WoW will still have expansions for years to come and more time to continuously redeem itself
Azeroth might be the 5th old God. We consumed her blood and we have given an undivided oath to something we still don't know what or who Azeroth is.
You forgot audio in the outro.
4:33 The old gods aren't dead, they cant be killed, if they died they would have caused damaged to azeroth in which we would have noticed, similar in scale to the sword, they are asleep, put into a healing coma. Similar to what DC did post "the death of superman"
I want a world revamp that skips out on most questing and just turns the old world into large ZM/Dragon Isles style playgrounds of events, world quests, dailies, special puzzles, dragon races and the like - still have questing, but make it more about the continent than like 80 zone-specific quests like in Cata
Tyr = The Only Good Titan Keeper
Since his boss, the Titan that empowered Tyr was Sargeras' Right Hand Man and he *ordered* Draenor.
I feel if they do a Light vs Void expansion they NEED to put the time and effort in to story and characters before it, which currently they do seem to be doing.
But like you said, what of priests, paladins? Void elves?
More characters need more depth and consistency including our own character.
Would be the perfect time to bring order halls back, maybe paladins and priests are actually kicked out of their class order and set up a resistance, using the light as a weapon against the Light-worshippers etc.
What would happen to Turalyon and Alleria? Their son? Would the void elves be kicked from the alliance?
Perhaps Anduin returns and leads a revolution against Turalyon, boasting both the power of Light and Void at his disposal?
So much room for epic plot AND gameplay systems, but it needs to be earned over time.
Capeshit writing
The game needs a world revamp so badly. Big time jump too. Just adding another island after island out of Denuser’s ass is not interesting.
We also needed more WQ available for that main group we need it for to do main story. There are not enough available for them to help it along.
I’m honestly upset I wasted money on this expansion thinking it would be better. Totally got lied to about how it really is.
oh man imagine , you take a portal from stormwind or another city when it is a sunny nice day outside to some place on the otherside of the planet and it is night , i think that would be really nice just for the feel to make clear , you are far far away from your home , but still on the same planet
If there is a world revamp I personally hope they finally do something with Gnomeregan and the gnomes in general, like we took back the city back in vanilla, they got a new starting zone and strated clearin it out in Cataclysm and then... I think it would be cool to see it all cleared up and functioning again.
Gnomes are treated like a joke since vanilla mate...deal with it
20:05 Uh-huh, fascinating... wow, I had not thought about that. ^^
The child of shadow and light prophecy with Illidan? Now, I'm not too brushed up on the lore at all, but surely "The child of shadow and light" would be Arator the redeemer, no? Shadow: Alleria, and Light: Turalyon?
I've probably missed something??
They need to heal the dead scar outside of silver moon city and revamp the entire starting area, eversong woods is too beautiful to go to waste and never to be seen after leveling in the ghost lands… and silver moon city could use a make over. If we get an expansion about the light, the sun well is going to have an impact on that, and I’d like more blood elf involvement instead of the dreanei.
I'm not sure about redefining speculation into evidence, but I hope you are right about the world revamp.
They will never forgive Anduin for his Lokutus era.
I feel like that a nature focused expansion should be in Kalimdor. Let nature go crazy there, with Botani and Saberon as the newcomers there and maybe some Gron that fight Stone Giants... with Orcs/Tauren/Nelfs trying to deal with this wild uncontrolled Nature.
Shadow and light concepts are very simple to me. Being ''too good'' makes you evil because it means you supressed the dark in you, and whatever you supress eventually becomes too hard to hold down. Knowing your shadow as well as your own hands is the real way to be truly good, because you do it very consciously, and very purposefully because you choose so.
You wouldn't perceive a day if nights didn't exist.
The opposite is also true. Dark would have no meaning if there wasn't light.
If they do a South Seas expansion/area, there's a huge place to update Gadgeztan to be what it is in Hearthstone, and that is a full functional city, with mean streets and tall buildings. I'd love to see them redo Gadget if they go South Seas.
I think there might be an editing issue at the end of the vid unless there was supposed to be audio
I'm betting on Alleria an Turalyon ending up having to fight each other with their kid desperately trying to stop them in the middle.
10 bucks says anduin eventually goes bad and runs back to the shadowlands to figure himself out or whatever, sylvannas finds nathanos and they go on a mission to find anduin and try to save him while the alliance and potentially the horde hunt him down.
Anduin isn't a good character and Sylvanas isn't.
“A cosmos divided will not stand” 💀💀💀 jailer flashbacks
I would really love a revamp of... well everything pre legion, but mostly Azeroth. The BfA revamps are great and I think would help with new player retention having more of the game be coherent in visual fidelity.
However... Outlands brought up to DF visual standards would be dope.
Given light and void are a balance, each keeping the other at bay, it will be interesting to see where the player characters end up. If either side actually wins it will be a disaster - I feel like there would need to be a proper third "side" dedicated to maintaining balance, and this is where the player characters would end up.
That's legit just capeshit writing.
Ngl, I want a Light-Invasion and more Lore about how the Light works and what one can do with it.
No such thing as invasion; we need the Light to help us stop the evil Chaos/Void/Death which have proven again and again and again to torture and murder and destroy us and everything we care about.
Capeshit war.
Could be cool if each player had to choose between light and void, regardless of race or faction!
It’s been over 10 years since cata I think a world revamp is due honestly 😅
We need world revamp and an expansion where we explore the world again
lool the audio cut out at the end! Great vid tho thanks Bell!
I have actually been wondering whether Aszhara goal is to awaken Azeroth as an entity of void. Im going to guess we ar going to try to stop her but will fail. Azeroth will awaken as a void entity, but a void entity that is not necessarily an enemy, much like many of the void entities we have interacted that are not evil.
This will trigger Yrel to force her way through the dark portal to destroy Azeroth, which is a being of void.
Azshara DONT work with the Void Lords, or with the Void, she USE the Void for her own goals.
Something I would love for them to add to any of these scenarios would be playable races, some that have been with us for years like the ogres, naga, and centaurs. Even completely new races on a possible new continent. I even settle for customizations for races such as tauren being able to be played as taunka or yaungol.
If they make Taunka or Yaungol a customization for Bloodhoof Tauren then they should bake Highmountain Tauren into them as well and replace Highmountain Tauren with something else entirely such as Sethrak considering Highmountain Tauren are less unique than both Yaungol and Taunka
One thing we need but will never get is a scale for our in game maps.
I would not be surprised if when we get a world revamp expansion they start consolidating. They need to start herding new players in a direction, I would not be surprised if the boats stop returning from Northrend and we stop risking our people for another continent seemingly lost so we do the same with places like Draenor, we close off the portals and focus on rebuilding/combating the new threat in Azeroth and Blizzard closes off access (also building "hype" for Classic launch of those expansions that otherwise likely wouldn't have much of any).
The issue with that is that shuts down all old transmog and mount farming, which many people in the community enjoy.
They said they've got stories for expansions for years to come but after the last few expansions they are just kind of making it up as they go along. Nothing else will convince me otherwise
none of the lore after vanilla holds well
I want the next expansion to feature the naga as a playable race.