@@MrJimmyTide It's not about music sucking nowadays, it's just that only a few music genres matter in mainstream media now. Back then all kinds of music would be played on TV, including Post-hxc like Hawthorne Heights, and that just doesn't happen nowadays.
@Caradog now that you're mentioning Twenty One Pilots can you really think that they're not doing something deferent? They're literally taking the sound of the 10s and adding a lot of things inspired by the 90s and 2000s, people put them in the same box as emo because they're screaming in mainstream music witch didn't happen anymore when they got big, also those soundcloud rapper's are actually making rock more accessible again by either making rock themselves or talking about how much they love rock, BTW Twenty One Pilots has luckily never made lyrics as cringe as "SO CUT MY RIST AND BLACK MY EYE"
L M A lot of singers in the rock umbrella are off key, especially in punk and emo. Nothing new, nothing bad, it’s just how it is. It’s not American Idol
@@Alfie__2003 chesters voice was the main attraction - Hawthorne Heights had a good blend of sandpaper and silk - i think the band died with Casey. Very sad, this band inspired me to play guitar.
Every time I click on an old Hawthorne Heights performance and I see Casey, I can't help but tear up. They're still great without him and I love how they didn't stop because of that, but his legacy will live on and I know many kids down where I live who listen to this kind of music and don't even know who Hawthorne Heights is. It just flat out sucks because they shaped the harder music scene but just by a little well the melodic hardcore scene that is.
I was about to say! I remember watching these videos on fuse before school in like 7th grade I’m 32 now time flies. Life’s fleeting enjoy the small moments along the way!🖤🫡
watch some old Van Halen, David Lee Roth was one of the greatest front men of all time, check out his sword shows he did on stage, any of the old stuff, it was at a steady decline since the early 90's when the grunge wave took hold.
@@BrandonTownsend It was Citalopram and Clonazepam and Vicodin. He was already on the Citalopram (depression), but developed tooth pain while on tour so he went to a dentist, but didnt tell the dentist that he was on other meds. Well when you combine Citalopram and Vicoden and Clonazepam, it causes a reaction that makes your throat clamp shut. He was alone on the tour bus and took both meds and had a reacton. The other bandmates were waiting for him to show for the concert and he didn't so they went looking for him and found him dead on the bus. Really sad. ALWAYS make sure you know the Rx drugs you take can be combined and what can happen if you do!
When I was in high school this song was all that played on the radio and I would talk so much shit even though I listened to bands like Senses Fail and other scream bands but secretly way down hidden deep I loved it and would play it every night on my guitar when I got home. I love music like this. Its sort of making a come back. Well pop punk anyway.
Keith Jones tell me about it, used to give some kids at school grief because they obsessed over my chemical romance. I liked the music, too. I don’t even know why I was a cunt when it came to emo music.
They all play in sync with each other and the different instruments blend well together. That = musical talent. It doesn't mean you have to like the song.
As an older punk, hardcore, emo fan, I got nothing more. Music is dead as far as I am concerned! There will never be bands like this, Blink, Coheed, Starting Line, Pennywise, Less than Jake, Reel Big Fish, and Something Corporate. As far as I'm concerned it's over, I need to find that oldies station that plays the same stuff I hate my parents listening too, cuz that's now me
sheezy28 Just have to find new stuff . Gary Clark Jr. Allen Stone . Minus the Bear. Vacationer ( the starting line 2.0 check them !!) I do miss the classics !
sheezy28 Check out the band Moving Mountains. They are extremely good musicians that put out quality material. Furthermore, check out even more old school emo bands from the 90s like Mineral, Sunny Day Real Estate, and old school Jimmy Eat World (static prevails/clarity) for Emo music at its core of originality.
The first time I heard this song I HATED the screaming part, and then I started listening to it more and started appreciating it. That was a few years ago and now looking back I see it as an art form and I'm really sad to hear that Casey died :(
yeah, hawthorne heights is pretty sweet live. I saw them at warped in detroit, and they made the mainstage have more than enough room, but for hawthorne heights and underoath there were so much people that it went to other stages and around the stadium.
People have no respect.I know these guys and they are not the same without him.They really toned it down after his death.They are good people who worked hard to get where they got and they don't need people dissing them for trying.
At least he got to live his life to the fullest, not a lot of people can say they were in a successive band and got to play in front of thousands of fans.
My sole rebuttal to this comment is simply this. NO, you're not. There are various styles of music. That's why they have played on Jimmy Kimmel and sold out arenas and you play in your living room to your mom right?
@MrMuffinRaper Bullshit. You think I don't know the difference? Listen to that shit and compare it to Shagrath's screeches, or Devin Townsend and then you'll realize that those aren't "forced exhaled" screams. That's a cheap screech from inhalation. you wanna see an example? Look up "Ryan Harts american idol audition" In fact, Ryan was actually better at it than these guys.
What sux tho is it was before I listened to alot of them :( I listened to them when i was like 6-8 and then we started moving alot and I completely forgot about them until I saw them live last year.
yeah obviously you knew nothing about them! when you think about it no one did! EVERYONE thought that they were emo/a disgrace to music! when in actuality they were real! they made this song not giving a flying fuck what all of us thought! and I loved them because of that! casey will always be a legend in my eyes! R.I.P CASEY CALVERT! as for HH! they never sold out! it was the fans who developed into liking harder music! so that's why you think they changed! when really it was the fans!
*sigh*, even if u dont like their music, A) dont listen to it in the first place and stop picking for fights, B) its never repectful, nice, or humane to wish for someones death, especially when that person did nothing to you, and C) if you have nothing nice to say, keep ur mouth shut!! seriously, grow up! Dont watch these vids if ur just gonna bash the singer or the type of music or the "type of people" who listen to them. just go away!
A few years ago, two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to ask if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said,"Take the kids and get out of the house. We'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue." The "clown statue" is really a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this letter on to 10 videos tonight, the clown will be in your bed at 3:00 am with a chainsaw in his hand(SORRY BOUT SPAM THIS REALLY FREAKS ME)
um no they didnt start "screamo" screamo is the pop word for any music that uses screams. screams have been used in punk since the 80s, and all types of metal in the late 80s and throught the 90s. too call this screamo is fucking stupid there good but there not screamo
i don't mean to disrespect you and i like hawthorne heights, but, 3 guitars dont give echo effects, and the depth, i mean, the third guy also plays the same thing as the other two guys... He is not needed, i guess what i'm trying to say jt should have just sang without playing guitar..
whats sad now in addition to loosing casey, is that the real hawthorne heights fans are gonna start to see people coming in and claiming to be hawthorne heights fans, when really they're only interested in hawthorne heights because one of the members passed away suddenly
Accidental O.D on prescribed medicine during tour almost exactly a year ago (it was November 24th 2007 I think?). One was an anti-deressant, one was an anxiety pill and the 3rd I'm not sure. Sad stuff :( His talent is no doubt missed
he passed away in his sleep in the early hours of the morning this past saturday, while the band was traveling to the 930 club in D.C..... the exact cause of death isn't known yet but it was not a result of doing anything illegal....
the songs about how much they miss theregirlfrineds/wifes and how it makes them all dugsduik ect ect you'd really have to know the backstory to all there songs to understand it, i used to be obsessed back in the day
R.I.P Casey and i don't mean to be direspectful or whatever but does hawthorne heights have plans of getting new screamer(not as good as casey obviously)and come out with a new album if any one knows message me
I always said what made this band good besides their musical talent was the guy that was screaming as hard as he could in the background giving his all and that guy was Casey Calvert. :/ RIP
Then there's also all that shit that Victory Records did to try to get publicity for them like that whole scandal with Ne-Yo...I honestly don't understand why anyone still signs with that label.
Eh, they're all going pretty nuts. Micah more so than the rest, but whatever. THey don't show much of Matt, but Casey is "crazy" too. And JT can't go crazy cause of the mic lol.
they are amazing R.I.P. Casey =[ i had a chance to go and see them back in march when they played in Dayton, OH but i couldnt go cause I had OGT's the next morning =[
i remember hearing it on the radio. now was it the lead guitarist or the rythym guitarist? its just as bad as the rev passing away from a7x he was such a good drummer.
Honestly...this is terrible. I dislike most emo music anyway, but like...is the song that bad or is it just the live performance? Sounded like a teenage fail band.
We meet again, 240p.
To be fair, this was shot in 2006.
Hahahahahaha
Funny…these videos were higher quality back in the day when originally loaded and have gone down in quality over the years
R.I.P Casey
casy is still alive
@@braxtonhiggins6592 you're an idiot
@@dillonn5507 lemme look it up
Edit: Oof. He actually is dead!
Yea
@@braxtonhiggins6592🤡
I miss those times back when every genre of music mattered and now it's all about generic hip hop and pop songs with recycled beats.
I miss those times when people didn't have to point out how much music sucks these days on every video post.
Wait...that never happened...
This is the most generic shitty music ever... I mean I like the song, but seriously this wasn't groundbreaking. lol
@@MrJimmyTide It's not about music sucking nowadays, it's just that only a few music genres matter in mainstream media now. Back then all kinds of music would be played on TV, including Post-hxc like Hawthorne Heights, and that just doesn't happen nowadays.
And when I show my swag co worker songs like HTH he asks me “ play real music”
@Caradog now that you're mentioning Twenty One Pilots can you really think that they're not doing something deferent? They're literally taking the sound of the 10s and adding a lot of things inspired by the 90s and 2000s, people put them in the same box as emo because they're screaming in mainstream music witch didn't happen anymore when they got big, also those soundcloud rapper's are actually making rock more accessible again by either making rock themselves or talking about how much they love rock, BTW Twenty One Pilots has luckily never made lyrics as cringe as "SO CUT MY RIST AND BLACK MY EYE"
2019 anyone?
13/04/2019!!
Yessir
Yes sir, and it's almost 2020. Where you at?
no 2020
2020!
Casey Calvert is so nasty. He literally was the best at what he did. Rest In Peace.
I Googled the name and what came up was a pornstar lolll. Had to specifically mention Hawthorne Heights I thought you were trolling for a sec.
+Lianidis Guite same lol
Lolol you guys must be young, because people my age automatically know who he is.
@@vincentcappello4746 ok oldhead
@@meskislutthesavior8551 thats right! Born in 1987.
Jimmy Kimmel is the man for putting these bands on his show. I respect the hell out of him for that.
FK Jimmy Kimmel, he deserves no respect what so ever
I literally got chills every time Casey screamed, Rip man, you were an amazing screamer, I guess you'd say
I wish I could have had the chance to see them live back then :(
Omfg me too! :( the pain is real
You could still see them now, bad thing is no one really gives a crap about them now or any band from the early 2000's
they were awesome!!!
Casey sounded the same live and on the record
Assuming Casey is the singer, he is so off key it's not even funny.
He was the guitarist that's screaming
Craig Goforth
Oh, that guy wasn't that bad.
L M A lot of singers in the rock umbrella are off key, especially in punk and emo. Nothing new, nothing bad, it’s just how it is. It’s not American Idol
Because he was a badass
rip casey best screamer ever
I agree, he was AMAZING! But, I think Chester Bennington was a lot better.
@@Alfie__2003 chesters voice was the main attraction - Hawthorne Heights had a good blend of sandpaper and silk - i think the band died with Casey. Very sad, this band inspired me to play guitar.
@@firstthessalonian6889 Have you listened to their newer stuff? They've gone back to their original sound for the most part.
@@ЕгорЦыба lol not even an inch compared to Phil Bozeman.
@@Alfie__2003 you can't bring Chester up and compare him to anybody because nobody will ever compare to Chester Bennington.
Lol a emo mosh pit
Yes. So what 😂 hahahaha
I thought the same thing, but it was also refreshing at the same time.
Every time I watch this I can't believe how good Casey was.
agreed its sad he passed so young
Casey was amazing 🔥🤘🔥
Casey knew how to rock!!! Rest your soul 🙏🙏🙏
How did he pass away?
George Barcenas he died of an accidental overdose of and anti-depresants
+grant li :( R.I.P my bro has to take them. I feel for Casey's family....
Every time I click on an old Hawthorne Heights performance and I see Casey, I can't help but tear up. They're still great without him and I love how they didn't stop because of that, but his legacy will live on and I know many kids down where I live who listen to this kind of music and don't even know who Hawthorne Heights is. It just flat out sucks because they shaped the harder music scene but just by a little well the melodic hardcore scene that is.
They were definitely pioneers of the post hard-core scene. Fucking love them.
i miss being this angsty
Angel Davis I'm still this angsty lol
Come be angsty again angel, lol
casey's scream the best. almost two decade and still listen to this song. i'm 27 now
Ya man , super talented guy
Hey man how's 30 feels great right lmao
I was about to say! I remember watching these videos on fuse before school in like 7th grade I’m 32 now time flies. Life’s fleeting enjoy the small moments along the way!🖤🫡
Just saw them two weeks ago with Emery and Anberlin. I’m 36. Haha.
people come here to hate this song? hmmm...you know you like it!
i was talking to JT a few weeks ago, i wanted to tell him how much i miss casey but i didnt.
♥
Why can't bands move around like that nowadays? now it's just standing still and occasional headbangs
MrJoe1928 Well there are still bands these days that play ridiculously easier stuff and they still don't go hard.
Your listening to the wrong bands. Even the seriously technical ones get down (if you no where to look)
You should go see Coheed and Cambria or Rise Against.
Longrod Von Hugendong Yes. Go back to the roots. I was 16 when this came out. Still a great song.
watch some old Van Halen, David Lee Roth was one of the greatest front men of all time, check out his sword shows he did on stage, any of the old stuff, it was at a steady decline since the early 90's when the grunge wave took hold.
Man that guitarist is a good screamer
That’s Casey Calvert. Sadly, he died back in 2007 from an overdose. He was a great guitarist and screamer.
Just going to add, it wasn't an overdose. Was an abnormal reaction to prescribed medication for anxiety/depression. Very unexpected and very rare.
@@alexadamson2818 Oh ok. I knew it had something to do with his medication, but I thought it was an overdose. That makes sense.
cap
@@BrandonTownsend It was Citalopram and Clonazepam and Vicodin. He was already on the Citalopram (depression), but developed tooth pain while on tour so he went to a dentist, but didnt tell the dentist that he was on other meds. Well when you combine Citalopram and Vicoden and Clonazepam, it causes a reaction that makes your throat clamp shut. He was alone on the tour bus and took both meds and had a reacton. The other bandmates were waiting for him to show for the concert and he didn't so they went looking for him and found him dead on the bus. Really sad. ALWAYS make sure you know the Rx drugs you take can be combined and what can happen if you do!
i remember in like seventh grade when i was obsessed with this song :]
now, i'm 17, and it still hasn't gotten old.
....maybe it was sixth grade?
now you’re 27
Time goes so fast
Reading this comment in 2022 makes me feel some type of way
YALL I TURN 30 IN A COUPLE WEEKS WTF
@@alivia777 Thats actually mind blowing lmao but welcome back
When I was in high school this song was all that played on the radio and I would talk so much shit even though I listened to bands like Senses Fail and other scream bands but secretly way down hidden deep I loved it and would play it every night on my guitar when I got home. I love music like this. Its sort of making a come back. Well pop punk anyway.
Keith Jones tell me about it, used to give some kids at school grief because they obsessed over my chemical romance. I liked the music, too. I don’t even know why I was a cunt when it came to emo music.
Jesús Avila yeah nah
Rest easy Casey
This is just badass, and also REAL FUCKING MUSIC
🤣
R.I.P. Casey
Your a screaming Angel
Casey was like the only screamer who could actually scream live
timecode37 Danny Worsnop used to be able to do it exactly as he did on the albums
timecode37 well there is Corey Taylor
DoktorCL He's trash in studio and live fym.
Nick Dearman Until he got old and fat.
Matt shadows before 2005
Casey's voice >>>>> omggg
my favorite song by Hawthorne heights check it out
great band. weakest pit ever though
holy shit! casey died!
oh my god! he had a awesome scream
there not going to be the same
They all play in sync with each other and the different instruments blend well together. That = musical talent. It doesn't mean you have to like the song.
i remember watching this when it aired. Fuck how the time flies
The screamo was very good and the vocals too. Everything was great. Love them
2018 anyone?? because my heart is in Ohio. 😄
Fuck I miss this time in my life. Now the world has just gone to shit...
*cries in white*
8th Grade talent show vibes.
Sorry.
🥶TRUTH
As an older punk, hardcore, emo fan, I got nothing more. Music is dead as far as I am concerned! There will never be bands like this, Blink, Coheed, Starting Line, Pennywise, Less than Jake, Reel Big Fish, and Something Corporate. As far as I'm concerned it's over, I need to find that oldies station that plays the same stuff I hate my parents listening too, cuz that's now me
sheezy28 Just have to find new stuff . Gary Clark Jr. Allen Stone . Minus the Bear. Vacationer ( the starting line 2.0 check them !!) I do miss the classics !
You're not digging deep enough bro. Good bands are out there.
sheezy28 Check out the band Moving Mountains. They are extremely good musicians that put out quality material. Furthermore, check out even more old school emo bands from the 90s like Mineral, Sunny Day Real Estate, and old school Jimmy Eat World (static prevails/clarity) for Emo music at its core of originality.
+sheezy28 youre stupid
+sheezy28 soundcloud.com/slacklinemusic
To me these guys were getting a lot of main stream notice of this song I thought they were the next nirvana in my eyes but I don't know what happened.
Pop music, Spotify trending playlists and new shit so-called music happened
your heart will always be in ohio brother
R.I.P Casey - so sad - so young!!
Great band!!
Wishing Casey's family, friends and fans all the best in these difficult times!
Love
Natasha
xox
The first time I heard this song I HATED the screaming part, and then I started listening to it more and started appreciating it. That was a few years ago and now looking back I see it as an art form and I'm really sad to hear that Casey died :(
holy poop, first time watching a live video with casey and his screams :p
yeah, hawthorne heights is pretty sweet live.
I saw them at warped in detroit, and they made the mainstage have more than enough room, but for hawthorne heights and underoath there were so much people that it went to other stages and around the stadium.
:D i never realized how good they were live till now!
THEY'RE AMAZING
R.I.P Casey
Casey :(
RIP Casey Calvert..
Um.......I love this song. But damn they sound bad....
I'm 31 and still stop and listen to this song.. RIP Casey Calvert
Idk what Ohio was like back in like 2005,
But i was in toledo a while back and it was absolutely treacherous.
What a gross place, honestly lol
miginschool1 no way y would he do that its bullshit
R.I.P casey calvert
they are so much diffrent without casey
R.I.P casey calvert
=..(
0:57 lol look in the crowd
Jack L. Productions O_O since when
They were on Kimmel?? That’s sick
Casey eating that microphone is freaking sick!!!! Man I love his screaming vocals.
People have no respect.I know these guys and they are not the same without him.They really toned it down after his death.They are good people who worked hard to get where they got and they don't need people dissing them for trying.
Probably the most badass performance of this song.
Ah the good old days, oh what I'd do and give just to get back to these times.
dudes is a good screamer
At least he got to live his life to the fullest, not a lot of people can say they were in a successive band and got to play in front of thousands of fans.
My sole rebuttal to this comment is simply this. NO, you're not. There are various styles of music. That's why they have played on Jimmy Kimmel and sold out arenas and you play in your living room to your mom right?
2018?
¡ Dennis Deimy ! 2019
R.I.P casey u are missed
2021 anyone?
i say them live
first show after caesy
this song isnt the same without him
i love hawthorne heights!!! i cant wait for their new cd...
damn, i never even met casey, but i somehow still miss him. r.i.p. dude
Was skeletons coming out at the time of this comment
@MrMuffinRaper
Bullshit. You think I don't know the difference? Listen to that shit and compare it to Shagrath's screeches, or Devin Townsend and then you'll realize that those aren't "forced exhaled" screams. That's a cheap screech from inhalation. you wanna see an example? Look up "Ryan Harts american idol audition" In fact, Ryan was actually better at it than these guys.
The good ol' 240P🖤🖤
rip. casey calvert.
best screamer ever.
What sux tho is it was before I listened to alot of them :( I listened to them when i was like 6-8 and then we started moving alot and I completely forgot about them until I saw them live last year.
The back up screamer is pretty good. I love this song.
RIP Casey... eventhough I don't listen to them much.
Rest in Peace, Darling Casey.
yeah obviously you knew nothing about them!
when you think about it no one did!
EVERYONE thought that they were emo/a disgrace to music! when in actuality they were real! they made this song not giving a flying fuck what all of us thought! and I loved them because of that!
casey will always be a legend in my eyes!
R.I.P CASEY CALVERT!
as for HH! they never sold out!
it was the fans who developed into liking harder music!
so that's why you think they changed!
when really it was the fans!
*sigh*, even if u dont like their music, A) dont listen to it in the first place and stop picking for fights, B) its never repectful, nice, or humane to wish for someones death, especially when that person did nothing to you, and C) if you have nothing nice to say, keep ur mouth shut!! seriously, grow up! Dont watch these vids if ur just gonna bash the singer or the type of music or the "type of people" who listen to them. just go away!
A few years ago, two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to ask if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said,"Take the kids and get out of the house. We'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue." The "clown statue" is really a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this letter on to 10 videos tonight, the clown will be in your bed at 3:00 am with a chainsaw in his hand(SORRY BOUT SPAM THIS REALLY FREAKS ME)
um no they didnt start "screamo" screamo is the pop word for any music that uses screams. screams have been used in punk since the 80s, and all types of metal in the late 80s and throught the 90s. too call this screamo is fucking stupid
there good but there not screamo
i don't mean to disrespect you and i like hawthorne heights, but, 3 guitars dont give echo effects, and the depth, i mean, the third guy also plays the same thing as the other two guys... He is not needed, i guess what i'm trying to say jt should have just sang without playing guitar..
whats sad now in addition to loosing casey, is that the real hawthorne heights fans are gonna start to see people coming in and claiming to be hawthorne heights fans, when really they're only interested in hawthorne heights because one of the members passed away suddenly
Accidental O.D on prescribed medicine during tour almost exactly a year ago (it was November 24th 2007 I think?). One was an anti-deressant, one was an anxiety pill and the 3rd I'm not sure. Sad stuff :( His talent is no doubt missed
he passed away in his sleep in the early hours of the morning this past saturday, while the band was traveling to the 930 club in D.C..... the exact cause of death isn't known yet but it was not a result of doing anything illegal....
JC was a terrible live singer back in the day. still isn't great but at least he has improved. it's great to see him sing like this on this vid.
the songs about how much they miss theregirlfrineds/wifes and how it makes them all dugsduik ect ect you'd really have to know the backstory to all there songs to understand it, i used to be obsessed back in the day
R.I.P Casey and i don't mean to be direspectful or whatever but does hawthorne heights have plans of getting new screamer(not as good as casey obviously)and come out with a new album if any one knows message me
i’m 18 here don’t worry i’m continuing the midwestern emo legacy
2022 I still listening ... 😁
Nah his voice just changed a little thts why it sounds different there a 4 piece band they never replaced Casey :| r.i.p casey we miss you
Because, you kill me.. You know you do, you kill me well, you like it too and i can tell. You never stop until my final breath is gone!!.
who knows, maybe sum1 else in the band can scream, so they might still be a screaming band but casey was really good, at that and guitar
I always said what made this band good besides their musical talent was the guy that was screaming as hard as he could in the background giving his all and that guy was Casey Calvert. :/ RIP
Then there's also all that shit that Victory Records did to try to get publicity for them like that whole scandal with Ne-Yo...I honestly don't understand why anyone still signs with that label.
Eh, they're all going pretty nuts. Micah more so than the rest, but whatever. THey don't show much of Matt, but Casey is "crazy" too. And JT can't go crazy cause of the mic lol.
they are amazing
R.I.P. Casey =[
i had a chance to
go and see them back
in march when they
played in Dayton, OH
but i couldnt go cause
I had OGT's the next
morning =[
i remember hearing it on the radio. now was it the lead guitarist or the rythym guitarist? its just as bad as the rev passing away from a7x he was such a good drummer.
@almostblind21 who would over dose on purpose? If it was done on purpose its poisoning, not over dosing on accident xD
Honestly...this is terrible.
I dislike most emo music anyway, but like...is the song that bad or is it just the live performance? Sounded like a teenage fail band.
Lmao one of the only bands who voices sounds the same live from the studio
Tbh they’re terrible live but they made some bangers back in the day
i didnt know emos moshed, i thought that was more of a heavy metal thing. Every emo concert ive seen they just stand there....sometime jump around.
dam casey calvert is an amazing screamer, sounds exactly like the cd... he will be missed
there is no screaming in the new album
3 guitars is right. I saw them awhile back with the same setup. They sound decent here, but not so much at a small venue. It was way too much.